On today's show, Alex Blumberg and Steve Kamb join me to discuss the latest in the ongoing saga surrounding the 2020 election, including the possibility that the Democratic National Committee will refuse to certify the results on January 6th, 2025 if there's a Trump victory.
00:19:18.600They were like, oh, my goodness, we didn't think anybody would put, you know, two and two together and figure out what this plan was here.
00:19:24.020And we're doing that now in real time.
00:19:25.820But the difference this time, as far as I can see it so far, is that there are about 800 different plans, right?
00:19:33.420They just do not want to put all of their eggs in one basket this time around.
00:19:37.380And look, if you are those guys where you've got all of the resources in the world, right, you can call on just about every billionaire in the United States.
00:19:46.280You can call on just about every major corporate entity.
00:19:48.740You can call on just about every single person working in downtown Washington, D.C., Capitol Hill, Hollywood, Midtown Manhattan.
00:19:57.160Then, yeah, you do kind of throw the kitchen sink at this thing because this is an existential moment for them.
00:20:34.140Club for growth world was is so utterly naive about the way that they are going to be using and leveraging these platforms to defeat Donald Trump.
00:20:45.300Listen, nobody on this planet wants to avoid a second Trump term more than the Chinese Communist Party.
00:20:53.040Right. So so you tell me where it makes sense to keep this thing alive, to keep this thing influential on the run up to a U.S. presidential election.
00:21:01.320It just doesn't. And I really mean this.
00:21:04.280No amount of money, no amount of political donations in the world should make it worthwhile keeping alive on the run up to the presidential election.
00:21:12.440But here we are. Right. So reset on all of this.
00:21:16.120I want to bring people back to a critical point here that the Democrats know that I'm telling you, this is the phrase they're going to use.
00:21:23.700The last day to save democracy will be January 6th, 2025.
00:21:30.500That is how they'll do it. They will they will mobilize every single thing they have.
00:21:35.200They will have more people on Capitol Hill than January 6th, 2020.
00:21:50.020But they say that Trump's anti-democratic. They know now the way it looks.
00:21:54.220They can't beat him in the general. Right.
00:21:56.620We got to work every day and crazy. But they've already, I think, acknowledged you're going to have a tough time doing that.
00:22:01.040They got a backup plan. And that backup plan is to try to squeak out a couple of these House seats, take the majority seated on January 3rd.
00:22:08.940And then not see Trump as president and just say, bring it right.
00:22:12.540We don't we think you're an insurrectionist. We can prove you're an insurrectionist.
00:22:16.240We'll do it. And that's going to be going to the insurrectionists.
00:22:19.620You were the first guy to actually break the story that The New York Times and others admitted there were federal officers on January 6th.
00:22:29.440As part of this, we now have all the revelations about what Cheney and these people, what actually happened around January 6th of President Trump, both the 10,000 troops and the Secret Service agents said he never made any move to turn the car to go to Capitol Hill.
00:22:45.020And now you also have the suppression, not just by Benny Thompson, but particularly by Liz Cheney to suppress this information.
00:22:52.820Tell me how the latest revelations from Loudermilk's subcommittee influence what's going to happen here.
00:23:00.960Well, they look, we knew it. We've known it because, I mean, under McCarthy, I was requesting all of this information.
00:23:08.840Couldn't get couldn't get a damn lick of it. Right.
00:23:11.720Where are the transcripts of the depositions? Where is all the footage that you guys are relying on?
00:23:18.040You know, what Darren Beatty's been and Julie Kelly have been talking about when it comes to the pipe bomber, like all of this, what is actually should be freely available information for the American public.
00:23:28.180Remember, remember, we're told that the republic nearly fell.
00:23:32.600It almost fell because of two pipe bombs that were left outside the DNC and the RNC and a horned guy marching through the U.S. Senate. Right.
00:23:41.420So if that's the case, let's see all of the evidence. That's all we were saying.
00:23:45.320It's all we've been saying. And now we learned that these depositions, the transcripts, the information from even from the Secret Service driver have been hidden.
00:23:57.080They deleted a bunch of information. And you've got to remember about this committee.
00:24:02.260This is the thing I keep saying about this committee. I think, you know, a few things about this, Steve.
00:24:07.500They charged people with contempt. People face jail time for this committee and what it did and what it did was it hid information from the American public.
00:24:18.900And it covered up the fact that Donald Trump wanted 10,000 National Guard troops and Muriel Bowser and Nancy Pelosi said no.
00:24:24.360They covered up the fact that there was this made up story by Cassidy Hutchinson, you know, the latest fluffer of the regime.
00:24:29.340He said, oh, you know, Donald Trump reached into the front of the beast and started careening it towards the Capitol.
00:24:33.360Never happened. You know, they laughed at even the supposition of it.
00:24:38.900So you've got people whose lives are being ruined. And you've got to remember this about the committee as well.
00:24:44.100Who's Benny Thompson? Oh, yeah. He's the guy that was helping blacks, black Marxist militia groups in the 1960s and 1970s.
00:24:51.000You go through who actually sat on the committee. They're all extremists.
00:24:54.560They're all political extremists of one stripe or the other. Could be could be deep state extremists, could be black Marxist extremists, could be globalistic.
00:25:01.820But they all are. They're all on the peripheries, on the fringes of the American body politic.
00:25:07.280No ordinary American believes what these people believe. No ordinary American wants Liz Cheney, the keys tossed to Liz Cheney or Benny Thompson or Elaine Luria or anything like that.
00:25:16.640It's it's it's they are everything that they say we are.
00:25:21.420And to come back to a point on that. Right. They thought January the 6th, 2021 was actually a pretty good idea.
00:25:30.280That's why they're doing it. They plan it in 2025.
00:25:33.480What they claim January 6th was. They think that's actually a pretty good idea.
00:25:37.520Here's how you know they think it was a good idea. Remember, in 2016, they objected to the results.
00:25:44.260They were the ones standing up in the Congress and saying, excuse me, objection.
00:25:47.760You know, we're not trying to have this guy seated as president of the United States.
00:25:51.340So they're just running that playbook again. But they've decided, like, hey, we're going to go.
00:25:55.080We're going to run full pelt towards it this time.
00:25:57.660We're going to run full pelt towards the objection system, full pelt towards decertifying the election, throw this country into constitutional crisis and let it play out as well.
00:26:06.880Well, if we allow them, if you allow them, ladies and gentlemen, to allow that to play out, which is giving Democrats control of Congress,
00:26:13.400you will see a carnage in this country. It's not a threat, by the way. I'm just telling you how it's going to play out.
00:26:17.620You will see a carnage in this country like you've never seen before.
00:26:22.880The our theory of the case is you can't have a successful Trump second term if you lose the House majority,
00:26:30.780because immediately, even before he takes the oath of office, they're going to be sitting there to try to make sure they don't certify it.
00:26:37.280Then if we power through that, they're going to impeach him. This is just going to be a fiasco.
00:26:42.260That's why we're saying that the House elections this year, more than ever before in American history, are hardwired into the general presidential election, sir.
00:26:52.200Yeah. And this this this brings us back to the point about the other candidates and their and their basis of support.
00:26:57.480Right. Because I'm still seeing on a day to day basis, you know, legacy DeSantis people bemoaning Trump on on X, you know,
00:27:05.580legacy Haley people, you know, marching around Capitol Hill, furious that they didn't get their their their chicken.
00:27:12.600The in the you know, is the is the nominee. These milquetoast so-called conservatives, the conservative Inc.
00:27:19.260crowd, the think tank scene, like all these people who are looking at the way that this is right now and going, yeah,
00:27:25.120I'm still not sure about this guy. You know, that is firstly going to have far more of an impact down ticket than it will have at the top of the ticket.
00:27:33.120I actually think that Donald Trump is correct when he says, like, look, the number of people out there who currently want to vote for us
00:27:39.700and are signaling to us that they will vote for us is enough to win the election.
00:27:43.840That's true. That's true. Even though, you know, you have to work at it every single day.
00:27:48.320But what happens down ticket is my fear is that the DeSimps, the Haley types, the Coninkers, you know,
00:27:56.380the milquetoast middle middlers is they just sort of turn around and go, I don't know, I can't be bothered.
00:28:00.920I'm not going to. And that that is where the real problem might lie.
00:28:06.220Get me to the National Pulse. Where do I go?
00:28:08.840The National Pulse dot com forward slash war.
00:28:10.880And it takes a lot for us to go through these documents, these details, present this analysis.
00:28:14.700The National Pulse dot com forward slash war. And you're the driving force behind it.
00:28:18.320Who can you trust? Government leaders repeatedly fail us.
00:28:22.420Self-appointed experts have led us astray.
00:28:24.820Distrust in so-called authorities is spreading like a bad cold.
00:29:51.000At the beginning of the show, what Ralph Reed is talking about, because this is a base-plus election.
00:29:56.540I don't think you're going to be doing a lot of converting people and making the argument and getting them more.
00:30:03.840I think the big numbers that are out there, one, you've got to turn out – both groups have got to turn out their base.
00:30:09.160Then it's going to be low-propensity, low-information voters that are essentially adjacent or aligned.
00:30:15.140This is why Ralph Reed is saying the mother load here is evangelical Christians and traditional Catholics are just not part of the political system.
00:30:25.260They're just not into it for their own reasons.
00:31:02.360On the other hand, you have this other, and it proved effective in the 22 midterm, and this is what Matt Gaetz knew because he was tracking it.
00:31:10.800This is TikTok, the power of TikTok, particularly after the Dobbs decision with young women who are either not registered Democrat or independent or Democrat and just don't vote.
00:31:21.400That's the tale of – that's the Swifty of it all.
00:31:24.960And look, I don't believe in coincidences given that tour is the most successful tour, I think, in the history of the music industry.
00:31:32.620It's been a major impact on economies all over and all types of subsidiary about merchandise and all that branding.
00:31:38.800To take that, you know, from August 20th to mid-November, and maybe they've booked something we just don't know about, but you would think they would already have it up to sell tickets.
00:31:48.840That's just – I don't believe in coincidences.
00:31:51.020I see that right there, and I see TikTok, and I say, hey, I saw what she did on Super Tuesday.
00:31:55.820She wasn't going to get involved in politics next.
00:31:57.500You know, hey, everybody go out and participate.
00:32:24.160But you've got to keep an eye on them.
00:32:25.540You've got to put the hairy eyeball on these guys because they are plotting.
00:32:28.660And also, was it Rosa Brooks, the other one?
00:32:31.660These are smart, tough people, and they've taken a blood oath that they're not going to allow President Trump to return to the White House.
00:32:39.260That's why we are all over these House races now as not just important because you've got to take the House, right, because it all comes out of the House.
00:32:47.380The frame is looked at as like the commons.
00:32:48.960You've got to – it all comes from the House.
00:32:50.780That's where it's closest to the people.
00:32:52.820But now it's inextricably linked to President Trump's success of President Trump's second term.
00:32:59.180Mike Lindell, a big day for you this Thursday.
00:33:02.840Can you tease a little bit of what we anticipate?
00:33:05.400You've been working on this nonstop with your incredible team of Kurt Olsen and others.
00:35:07.880The power of this to me, one of the things it shows, is that this happened in President Trump's term.
00:35:14.320And it shows you, even when a guy's commander-in-chief, even when he's chief magistrate,
00:35:19.220even when he's the senior executive in the federal government, that not just political appointees,
00:35:26.280but that, because you can always have bad apples, but that the administrative state basically runs the deal, right?
00:35:32.780And what your evidence shows is the administrative state at the state level and the administrative state at the federal level regarding these machines.
00:35:40.440And I think it's going to have people in shock about what you guys show.
00:35:46.020And my question is, always when I go through, I said, how could people not know this?
00:35:49.940Because you guys have done a great job, but it's not like it's super inside secret sauce baseball.
00:47:32.400The guy who was helping Joe Biden get eight million dollars.
00:47:36.880And oh, by the way, Mr. Hur, what did that ghost rider do with the information Joe Biden shared with him on his laptop?
00:47:44.260What did he do after you were named special counsel?
00:47:46.860Chairman, if you're referring to the audio recordings that Mr.
00:47:51.240Zwanitzer created of his conversations with exactly what I'm referring to, he he slid, if I remember correctly, and he slid those files into his recycle bin on his computer.
00:48:03.420Tried to try to destroy the evidence, didn't he?
00:48:06.800The very guy who was helping Joe Biden get the eight million dollars, eight million dollars.
00:48:10.400Joe Biden had used the motive for Joe Biden to to disclose classified information, to retain classified information, which he definitely knew was against the law.
00:48:20.620When you get named special counsel, what's that guy do?
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