Justices Kagan and Ginsburg issue a temporary stay of enforcement of a Supreme Court ruling allowing Texas to keep their controversial immigration law in place. What does this mean for the rest of the country? What does it mean for our immigration system, and why should we care?
00:02:39.000Wednesday, 20 March, Year of Our Lord, 2024.
00:02:47.200We had a magnificent cold open set for you and Liz Harrington to come on.
00:02:51.040And she wrote a prayer for Peter Navarro.
00:02:54.760We're going to get to that in a minute.
00:02:56.120But complete total confusion in the federal court system.
00:02:59.820And we asked and we're honored to have Attorney General Ken Paxson from Texas.
00:03:04.460So, General Paxson, we had Todd Benson on yesterday's morning.
00:03:08.460And we spent a whole half hour, I guess, on the first day.
00:03:11.220Then the Supreme Court puts this decision out in the afternoon.
00:03:14.460They're melting down on MSMEC, as you saw.
00:03:16.800Then later last night, another reversal by another appellate court.
00:03:21.920I am now totally and completely corn-fused about this.
00:03:25.060Can you please explain to her the vast war room posse what the hell is going on?
00:03:31.540Oh, believe me, it is pretty confusing.
00:03:33.360So, we originally, this law was passed and it went into effect March 4th.
00:03:38.400Before that happened, Judge Ezra, a district court judge, where the Biden administration sued us to stop SB4 from going into effect, which allows us to deport people that come here illegally, because the federal government clearly is not doing that.
00:04:11.740It goes back down to the Fifth Circuit.
00:04:13.260A different three-judge panel, Priscilla Owen and a more liberal judge, took the stay back off and then asked us to argue the case this morning at 10 a.m.
00:04:38.100We're going to be arguing about it in an hour.
00:04:39.480So, where does that put us – if you – let's say you argue today and they take the stay off.
00:04:49.680Let's assume – where does that put you?
00:04:51.860Where actually are we in the implementation of this law on a permanent basis?
00:04:56.780Does that take away all the different aspects of it or is it still – you're still in a court fight with Merrick Garland, the Justice Department?
00:05:37.460And every state in this country, none of them would have joined the union if they were subject to being invaded and they were told, well, because the federal government's not going to do anything.
00:05:46.220As a matter of fact, we're going to help the other side.
00:05:54.340Just make the case why is what you're doing, which seems very practical to people, why is it constitutional?
00:06:01.700So I believe that it's constitutional because the founding of our country, there's no way that Texas would have come into the union if they were told by the federal government, look, we have these laws.
00:06:13.980But if we don't and we decide we're not going to protect you or we might even help the other side, we might help Mexico invade you, you can't do anything about it once we have these laws in place that say we're going to protect you.
00:06:24.900There's no way that Texas joins the union.
00:06:27.880There's no way that Florida joins the union.
00:06:29.420There's no way that the original colonies come together and say, oh, yeah, if the federal government decides not to protect us for some crazy reason, which we have here, then we can't defend ourselves.
00:06:42.840So it cannot be that the founders meant when they wrote the Constitution that if the federal government passes laws that somehow we're preempted from protecting ourselves, especially when you look at the damage that's being caused, the drugs and the potential terrorism and the crime, it's all proven.
00:06:58.980And the federal government is aiding and abetting all of it.
00:07:01.740Where do we actually stand now practically with Governor Abbott yourself, with the wire, the State National Guard, the Texas Rangers, the DPS?
00:07:14.920Practically, what are you guys doing right now?
00:07:17.780We're still putting up wire and fences, and we're going to continue to do so.
00:07:21.340There was nothing in any decision that said we couldn't do it.
00:07:23.800We were trying to stop the federal government from cutting it down.
00:07:26.100The Supreme Court undid that injunction that the Fifth Circuit put in place to stop the federal government from cutting it down.
00:07:33.040But practically speaking, since that case, since the injunction got taken away, Border Patrol, federal government, none of them are cutting down our wire or fence, and we continue to put it up to protect our state.
00:07:46.800I just want to make sure that we're very clear about this, because I'm going to have a Russ vote on in a second about this, about the budget.
00:07:54.140But Biden, who's saying that he's doing everything possible he can to make sure he secures the border, that's his campaign pitch.
00:08:02.540Are you saying right now Biden's government is actively working against law enforcement officials in the state of Texas from securing the border?
00:08:14.000Well, by filing this lawsuit, I absolutely think they are.
00:08:16.840And by encouraging the cartels to bring as many people here as possible, yes, they are.
00:08:20.700And by having this program where 30,000 people a month are flown in from Venezuela, Haiti, Cuba, and Nicaragua, just flying over the border into various places that none of us know, yes, they absolutely have complete disdain for federal law.
00:08:36.460When he says it's Congress's fault, nothing could be more false than saying it's Congress's fault.
00:09:07.640Has any federal official sat down with you or have you met with any federal official that has explained why they're doing this, why they're working with the cartels, why they're fighting you to secure the border, why they're flying people into the state of Texas?
00:09:22.720Has anybody sat down with you and walked through their rationale, why they are doing this?
00:09:29.500Not a single person from the Biden administration has ever called us to explain why they're doing it.
00:09:33.680They've never called us to say, hey, can you stop putting up the wire?
00:09:47.940I don't think there's a good explanation.
00:09:49.400And I think that's why they just sue us and hope that the courts will go off of this preemption idea that, hey, we're the federal government.
00:09:58.440And even if it hurts your state and a lot of people die and there's lots of kids dying from fentanyl overdoses and there's a few terrorists in your state, hey, we're the federal government.
00:11:05.820So, walk us through exactly where we are coming out of this conference today.
00:11:09.200And you just heard the attorney general of Texas.
00:11:13.240The federal government hasn't even picked up the phone and even tried to explain their position about why they believe an open border works, why they believe it's correct to fly people in this country.
00:11:37.240I mean, both sides are laughing at us because they know that nothing of importance to be able to have a course correct with the Biden administration is going to be accomplished in this.
00:11:55.740So, they are briefing their members and reporters, not the American people, as to the spin that they want both sides to understand and be able to secure their vote.
00:12:07.240So, they just came out of a conference meeting.
00:12:20.800Of all the complete caving that you're doing on the actual substance of the bill, then you're not going to allow the public to actually have three days to read it and understand what's in it so that we have an opportunity to present both sides to the country.
00:12:36.520But I do want to hone in on the border, right?
00:12:39.000This is a classic Washington, D.C. game in which they essentially create shiny objects.
00:12:47.880So, when you have an administration, DHS, impeach Mayorkas, of which has already occurred, when you have that, giving them more border security money doesn't do anything.
00:13:10.060ICE is circulating these individuals with fancy packets at the airlines to go through the rest of the country and be in communities, and we don't know where those are all occurring.
00:13:19.120So, this house is empowering the very DHS of which they have impeached their leader.
00:14:15.320It's almost a maxi bus, and they don't want you to go through the pages page by page to see what they've crammed in here because it's not good.
00:14:23.100If there's any good, they'd be up in your face about how good it is.
00:30:11.240In fact, you came from the RNC to War Room in the interim after the 2020 election.
00:30:18.680And I think I'm fair to say you came because you were not convinced at that time that the RNC was all in on this, all in on the big steal, on how the election was stolen.
00:30:31.280You stayed until you went to the Trump campaign.
00:30:33.280But you saw in that period, and that was a key period.
00:30:36.560And remember, it's not Steve Bannon saying this.
00:30:39.460It's Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan and one of these brilliant pieces that they come up with every now and again, besides all the fake news that's in their pieces.
00:30:47.700About a month ago, they said the central reason that President Trump is in the power position he's in, you just heard the MSNBC guys melting down about Biden.
00:30:56.700The reason he's in the power position is that he deeply believes in his heart and his soul.
00:31:03.740He knows that the 2020 election was stolen, and he wouldn't bend the knee to any of the Republican establishment, RNC, or all the donors that told him, no, no, no, no, you just have to do a mea culpa.
00:31:13.620And that critical time period after the 2020 election and then into the first six months of essentially what was his exile down in Mar-a-Lago.
00:31:23.180He would never – he never retreated on that, and that is the reason that we're primed in this position today.
00:31:29.060Liz, you've written an incredibly moving piece about Dr. Peter Navarro.
00:32:25.440That is the problem of what's going on in our country.
00:32:28.680And he struck me, Russ Vogt did, when he said the people that will be cheering on the status quo and saying, well, this is the best we could get.
00:32:37.200The best we could get was our elections are stolen.
00:32:40.680They're imprisoning top advisers to the most popular incumbent administration in our country's history for speaking out about the stolen election.
00:32:53.420And then, of course, the border, the economy, the wars, all the rest that you cover so greatly every single day.
00:33:06.040I don't want to bring up the irony of this, but – and this has to be burned into the soul of this audience because this audience is the power.
00:33:17.940The reason we have two-thirds to 75 percent of voters and I think 40 percent of everybody getting almost 50 percent and independence very high, which is the proxy for the American people,
00:33:29.740is because we've been relentless about showing how and why the election was stolen.
00:33:36.700That's why people in the United States are smart.
00:33:39.020They're getting bombarded by the New York Times and CNN and MSNBC every day.
00:34:03.460Peter Navarro is in prison because of the House of Representatives run by Nancy Pelosi.
00:34:10.120And what Russ Vogt came on here today, what Polly Pockets Johnson has done, what Polly Pockets has done is essentially approve Nancy Pelosi's budget plus at least $30 billion.
00:34:21.380Liz, that's the frustration with people is that you work like crazy.
00:34:26.500You work your fingers to the bones to get these guys in there and then these men and women in there and then all they're going to do is essentially be Democrat lights.
00:34:34.740These Republicans that vote for this thing are not MAGA.
00:34:57.140They're in prison, trying to imprison the leader of the opposition, obviously, President Donald J. Trump.
00:35:03.320We know what country we're living in now.
00:35:06.180And instead of a nation that was founded by heroes who pledged their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor, we're now being run by villains who have no honor.
00:35:36.040And what my conclusion of the piece is, however, thank God we do not have to appeal to Chief Justice John Roberts, a despicable thing he did, and one man making a decision to send Peter to prison.
00:35:52.260Well, thank God we don't have to rely on his mercy because he has none.
00:36:31.660We need to stand in righteousness and not in everything we do, whether it's the great work Russ Vogt's doing, whether you're the attorney general of Texas, whether you're just a mom or dad trying to raise your kids, whatever you're doing, you need to pray.
00:36:59.920We need to start tactically fighting differently.
00:37:07.080Peter Navarro, what Liz said, Peter Navarro's out there yesterday and just an incredible act of courage.
00:37:13.100I mean, the composure, how he off the top of his head gave this amazing press conference and that preamble and then walked in like the man he is in the prison.
00:37:24.520Remember, they've indicted Trump 91 counts and they for 700 years and they're not going to be satisfied until they see President Trump walking into prison.
00:37:35.120Remember that that's the stakes that are here.
00:37:53.820They're going to try to strip him of all of his capital.
00:37:56.160They're going to try to strip him of all his real estate, sell it at bargain basement prices and just say, hey, tough break for a swell guy.
00:47:40.600It's yesterday's man, and it's yesterday's way of doing oppo like this.
00:47:46.280The fact of the matter is, whether we like it or not, and I'm certainly in the not camp on this one, Midas Touch is for the TikTok generation, right?
00:47:55.160It's for the Instagram Reels generation.
00:48:10.540They say, hey, we're clipping Donald Trump out of context three, four, five times a day, and these things are getting 25 million views on them, right?
00:48:17.480And that's what happened with the bloodbath thing.
00:48:41.060They are wildly fast, and they, if you read this story, were invited to a preview screening of the State of the Union inside the White House with Anita Dunn and with Doug Emhoff.
00:48:57.680That is a collusion between the Biden White House and this Hollywood-funded, this Reid Hoffman-funded hit job institution, Midas Touch, and believe me, ladies and gentlemen, there is a lot, a lot more to come on these guys.
00:49:50.100He's been around this stuff for decades now.
00:49:52.940But if you look under any of the mattresses, the anti-Trump, the never-Trump cases, whether it was E. Jean Carroll, whether it was Nikki Haley's campaign, whether it was Fusion GPS and their lawsuits that they faced as a result of peddling the Russia hoax, all of these things, and now Midas Touch, all of these things come back to Reid Hoffman.
00:50:14.880In some way, shape, or form, he is involved with every single one of these things, and as a multi-billionaire, of course, he can be.
00:50:24.440He's rubbing shoulders with Molly Jungfast, George Conway, all of these guys.
00:50:28.720You know, Reid Hoffman really is the linchpin of never-Trumpism right now, and Midas Touch, you know, I'm ringing the alarm bells about these guys.
00:50:37.200They, frankly, should be kicked off platforms like X under their own disinformation, misinformation policies because they are shown and have admitted to being bad actors in this regard.
00:50:47.640But Reid Hoffman is really where all of that starts out.
00:50:50.300Having said that, we're going through all of their other donors at the moment.
00:50:54.000We're going through everyone else that is in their circuit, in their circles, and we're going to light them all up.
00:50:58.660As we used to say on this show all the time, Steve, we're going to make them famous.
00:51:29.620So this is totaling up a lot of the money that is coming from similar types of dark money operations, that's coming from unions, that's coming from all over the place trying to prop this guy up.
00:51:40.820They realize, hey, look, if you're going toe to toe with Donald Trump in this election campaign, that they are going to absolutely get blown out.
00:51:47.720I mean, Joe Biden may end up making Barry Goldwater's loss look somewhat respectable if they continue on their current trajectory.
00:52:09.620At the same time that you're seeing this cash crunch, this cash squeeze around the Trump campaign and because of all of these lawsuits and all of this lawfare, you're seeing all of these groups coming out at the same time saying, yeah, OK, look, we really do have to throw just massive, massive amounts.
00:52:25.660When they say $2 billion, they mean $3 billion, right?
00:52:28.100Like they're trying to be conservative with their estimates here.
00:52:31.480The reality is they need to spend a lot more than that.