Bannon's War Room - April 03, 2024


Episode 3509： Trump Touts Christian Day Of Visibility


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Donald Trump is running for president in the Democratic primary in 2020, and he's got a good chance to win it if he stays on the right side of the polls. But is it possible that he's actually running for President because of his cult-like cultism around Donald Trump?

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00:00:00.000 Not because Donald Trump has moved towards their version of Christianity.
00:00:03.700 Rather, American Christianity, evangelical Christianity, has moved towards Donald Trump as an increasingly authoritarian personality cult around the ex-president.
00:00:14.580 Writing in The New York Times, Michael Bender says, quote,
00:00:16.800 Even more than in his past campaigns, he is framing his 2024 bid as a fight for Christianity.
00:00:22.580 One history professor at a Pennsylvania Evangelical University told Bender,
00:00:27.060 the apparent effectiveness of such tactics has made Trump the nation's first major politician to successfully separate character from policy for religious voters.
00:00:35.940 But now Trump is using his own brand of positive thinking and prosperity gospel to dupe his self-proclaimed Christian supporters
00:00:42.320 into believing that he is the second coming of Jesus himself, his own brand of the power of MAGA thinking,
00:00:49.420 fusing his own perverse messianic message into his rallies,
00:00:53.220 which, alongside the passion of the MAGA faithful, gives them a church of the cult of Trump air,
00:00:59.400 including the rituals that would seem familiar to Christian believers,
00:01:03.260 hands raised in the air as a sign of surrender and reverence to God.
00:01:08.200 Except that Trump rallies its reverence to Trump with a one-finger salute,
00:01:12.980 a hallmark of QAnon followers, and a nod to that movement's slogan.
00:01:17.460 Even though they were told to stop, you still see them from time to time.
00:01:23.000 He's also taken to ending his speeches with a sermon of sorts,
00:01:26.680 proclaiming that they are one movement and one family under God.
00:01:31.260 But now that he's running for president so that he can stay out of prison,
00:01:34.860 he's really ratcheted up the church-like energy at his rallies.
00:01:38.560 As the New York Times notes, even more than in his past campaigns,
00:01:42.080 he is framing his 2024 bid as a fight for Christianity,
00:01:46.820 telling a convention of Christian broadcasters that,
00:01:49.860 just like in the battles of the past, we still need the hand of our Lord.
00:01:55.420 On his social media platform in recent months,
00:01:58.100 Trump has shared a courtroom-style sketch of himself sitting next to Jesus
00:02:03.120 and a video that repeatedly proclaims,
00:02:06.200 God gave us Trump to lead the country.
00:02:08.660 And the reality is that his venomous snake oil is working.
00:02:13.980 As Trump has either directly or indirectly compared himself to Jesus,
00:02:17.980 his followers have continued their descent into cult-like madness,
00:02:22.740 parroting his persecution complex right back,
00:02:25.580 as if he is being punished for their sins.
00:02:29.100 Trump followers, evangelicals, will say,
00:02:32.180 well, everybody's done this, everybody's done that,
00:02:35.820 everybody's sins, Joe Biden's sin, everybody.
00:02:40.240 And yet, again, growing up in the Baptist Church,
00:02:44.780 what we learned, and it's great, again, in this time after Easter,
00:02:51.180 to be reminded of it,
00:02:53.460 that if you're a Christian,
00:02:55.280 you believe that Christ died for your sins,
00:02:58.820 and you need to ask for forgiveness.
00:03:05.560 And, you know, you see the bumper sticker across the South,
00:03:09.420 Christians aren't perfect, just forgiven.
00:03:12.340 That is the central core belief of evangelical Christianity.
00:03:21.060 I can't speak for other parts of Christianity.
00:03:25.640 I think it's the same.
00:03:26.480 But for evangelicals, it's always been, 0.56
00:03:29.120 ask for forgiveness.
00:03:31.320 That's always at the call.
00:03:33.100 After, you know, you go through 20 verses of just as I am.
00:03:37.120 Ask for forgiveness.
00:03:38.700 It will be given.
00:03:40.640 Right?
00:03:41.220 Donald Trump undercuts that
00:03:44.300 in a way that no evangelical I ever grew up with
00:03:48.540 would have been okay with.
00:03:51.800 But when Donald Trump says,
00:03:53.640 I've never done anything wrong,
00:03:55.160 no reason to be forgiven,
00:03:57.000 they still fall right in line and say,
00:03:59.940 oh, he's the second coming of Christ.
00:04:02.240 I mean, they idolize him.
00:04:03.820 And it's really, it's twisted.
00:04:06.080 I still, again, growing up in the Baptist Church,
00:04:09.520 after all these years,
00:04:10.860 I just, I can't, I can't explain it.
00:04:12.820 I just can't, I can't explain it.
00:04:15.300 How they, how, how they would kind of like,
00:04:17.820 this is a great follow-up
00:04:19.100 to what Jeffrey's Atlantic article talks about.
00:04:21.520 How do these people that I know,
00:04:23.880 that I knew, that I grew up with,
00:04:27.000 how do they embrace a guy like this
00:04:29.480 who says, no,
00:04:32.560 I've never asked for forgiveness
00:04:34.200 because I don't need forgiveness from God.
00:04:37.640 I got to say, as someone who sort of
00:04:39.440 spends a fair amount of time
00:04:40.760 kind of reading around the different circles
00:04:43.100 of the American right,
00:04:44.040 particularly on this,
00:04:44.720 that even if Trump doesn't specifically say this,
00:04:47.500 although he flirts with his iconography,
00:04:49.280 this kind of iconography is extremely common,
00:04:52.380 particularly in the hardest core group
00:04:53.960 of his supporters.
00:04:55.760 Oh, absolutely.
00:04:56.440 And, and, and it's important to understand this
00:04:58.740 when, when, when,
00:05:00.640 when it comes to understanding why Trump,
00:05:03.000 who is the subject of dozens of criminal charges
00:05:07.100 and why, and, and someone who has led his party
00:05:09.720 into repeated political failures
00:05:11.780 over the last few election cycles,
00:05:14.420 with that kind of record,
00:05:15.780 why he is still, you know,
00:05:18.200 the, the, the nominee for a third cycle,
00:05:21.220 a third presidential cycle in a row
00:05:22.820 and, and positioned to potentially
00:05:24.940 win the White House again.
00:05:26.500 In a closely divided country,
00:05:28.460 you know, each candidate needs to keep
00:05:31.640 every vote inside their party.
00:05:34.280 They have to keep that column nice and tight
00:05:37.600 on the Republican and Democratic side
00:05:39.480 if they're going to have any chance of winning.
00:05:41.400 And then this for, with Trump and Republicans
00:05:44.540 is a pretty clear advantage
00:05:46.680 in, in, in April of 2024,
00:05:48.960 heading toward November.
00:05:50.080 We're going to win the White House
00:05:51.260 and we are going to save our country.
00:05:53.420 We're going to save our country.
00:05:58.420 And what the hell was Biden thinking
00:06:00.880 when he declared Easter Sunday
00:06:03.060 to be Trans Visibility Day? 0.72
00:06:09.820 Such total disrespect to Christians 1.00
00:06:12.580 and November 5th is going to be
00:06:15.360 called something else.
00:06:16.380 You know, it's going to be called
00:06:17.260 Christian Visibility Day
00:06:19.720 when Christians turn out in numbers 1.00
00:06:21.760 that nobody has ever seen before.
00:06:25.220 Let's call it Christian Visibility Day. 1.00
00:06:28.020 Let's call it Christian Visibility Day. 1.00
00:06:30.340 Grace our spirits will deliver
00:06:33.960 and provide a role and role.
00:06:39.340 Yes, we'll gather at the river
00:06:44.180 the beautiful, beautiful river.
00:06:49.780 Gathering the saints at the river
00:06:53.940 that rose by the throne of God.
00:06:59.200 Yes, we'll gather at the river
00:07:03.780 the beautiful, beautiful river.
00:07:09.520 Gathering the saints at the river
00:07:14.080 that rose by the throne of God.
00:07:19.460 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:07:31.980 Pray for our enemies
00:07:33.180 because we're going medieval on these people.
00:07:37.220 Here's what I got a free shot
00:07:38.380 at all these networks lying about the people.
00:07:41.460 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:07:43.400 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:07:44.800 I know you try to do everything in the world
00:07:46.040 to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:07:47.420 It's going to happen.
00:07:48.760 And where do people like that go
00:07:50.060 to share the big line?
00:07:52.160 Mega media.
00:07:53.520 I wish in my soul,
00:07:55.300 I wish that any of these people
00:07:57.160 had a conscience.
00:07:58.940 Ask yourself, what is my task
00:08:01.100 and what is my purpose?
00:08:02.760 If that answer is to save my country,
00:08:05.940 this country will be saved.
00:08:09.060 War Room.
00:08:09.960 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:08:12.360 It's Wednesday 3, April,
00:08:18.260 in the year of our Lord, 2024.
00:08:19.960 Okay, you see that it's nonstop
00:08:22.360 on MSNBC.
00:08:24.100 I mean, nonstop.
00:08:25.060 And here's why it's nonstop.
00:08:26.940 And we'll talk about some polling.
00:08:28.780 We'll talk about the results
00:08:29.740 yesterday from the primaries.
00:08:33.140 One of the most important
00:08:34.960 was that the Zuckerberg situation
00:08:37.100 got blown out.
00:08:38.800 Of course, nobody will talk about
00:08:39.740 the actual numbers, 55-45
00:08:41.380 in the state of Wisconsin
00:08:43.380 to get rid of Zuckerbergs.
00:08:45.420 Also, Charlie Kirk going on offense
00:08:47.160 in Nebraska.
00:08:48.040 We'll have Charlie on later
00:08:49.060 to talk about it.
00:08:50.240 But the polling,
00:08:51.680 Wall Street Journal out
00:08:52.640 with a massive poll day
00:08:53.800 of all the battleground states
00:08:54.860 overnight.
00:08:57.000 And Trump, oh, wait for it,
00:08:59.920 leading in six of the seven
00:09:01.520 battleground states.
00:09:02.260 The only battleground state
00:09:03.180 they have that he's not leading,
00:09:04.320 he's dead tied, I think 46 each,
00:09:06.580 in Wisconsin.
00:09:07.760 And yesterday,
00:09:09.400 Trump had a show of force
00:09:10.340 not just at the Green Bay rally,
00:09:12.580 which was fantastic.
00:09:13.460 I want to thank Real America's Voice.
00:09:15.240 Our own Jane Zirkle
00:09:16.180 for braving the snowstorm
00:09:17.640 to kind of get there,
00:09:18.380 the inclement weather to get there.
00:09:20.180 But Michael Bender
00:09:21.000 of the New York Times
00:09:21.820 wrote that kind of definitive piece
00:09:23.440 on all this
00:09:24.480 about the religiosity
00:09:25.900 of what they say
00:09:27.480 that has infused
00:09:28.980 the Trump movement.
00:09:30.780 He gave it up
00:09:31.560 when he said at the end,
00:09:34.060 it's about having
00:09:34.740 your columns tight.
00:09:35.940 Remember,
00:09:37.600 my theory of the case
00:09:39.380 in this election,
00:09:40.240 it's a base plus election.
00:09:43.680 I think a lot of time spent
00:09:45.540 trying to convince people
00:09:46.740 on the margin,
00:09:48.300 and particularly suburban women, 0.97
00:09:50.720 to come and vote for Trump
00:09:51.960 is going to be a tough call
00:09:56.380 and kind of a waste of resources
00:09:58.340 when you have so many
00:09:59.140 other opportunities out there.
00:10:00.580 especially given
00:10:03.180 the traditional
00:10:04.820 and conservative nature
00:10:06.220 of so many of the groups out there,
00:10:08.060 like the African-American families, 0.67
00:10:09.520 Hispanic families,
00:10:10.640 that's a,
00:10:11.320 you add economic populism to that,
00:10:14.120 you got a winner.
00:10:15.000 And it's not a hard sell.
00:10:16.760 It's just,
00:10:17.200 hey, here's the empirical evidence.
00:10:19.020 And they already know,
00:10:20.280 and what President Trump said
00:10:21.440 so powerfully last night,
00:10:23.740 under the illegitimate
00:10:25.420 usurper reign
00:10:27.020 in the White House,
00:10:27.900 the blasphemy
00:10:29.820 that goes on in the White House
00:10:30.780 every second of every day.
00:10:32.820 They have Transgender Visibility Day 0.99
00:10:35.140 on Resurrection Sunday
00:10:36.280 on Easter Sunday.
00:10:37.220 And they ran,
00:10:38.100 you know,
00:10:38.260 Biden denied it.
00:10:39.140 I had no idea
00:10:39.960 what you're talking about.
00:10:41.060 I don't know anything about it.
00:10:43.140 They're at general quarters
00:10:44.340 to disprove
00:10:45.200 that they allowed
00:10:46.320 no religious symbolism
00:10:48.660 on any of the Easter egg
00:10:50.900 or the Easter celebrations
00:10:52.820 they have over there
00:10:53.760 in the afternoon.
00:10:55.520 President Trump came back hard.
00:10:57.060 Biden's running away
00:10:58.440 from his Transgender Visibility Day.
00:11:00.260 President Trump came in last night
00:11:01.620 and threw down
00:11:02.960 and threw down hard.
00:11:03.880 He said,
00:11:04.180 hey, how about this?
00:11:04.980 Suck on this. 1.00
00:11:06.260 No Transgender Visibility Day 1.00
00:11:08.500 in the White House anymore
00:11:10.200 because on November 5th,
00:11:11.780 we're having Christian,
00:11:13.220 Christianity Visibility Day.
00:11:15.600 That's a shocker.
00:11:16.460 And MSNBC,
00:11:19.120 which is really
00:11:19.540 the counter-programming,
00:11:20.680 that's the uniparty
00:11:22.580 that is the apparatus,
00:11:25.100 the radical Democrats
00:11:26.060 programming arm
00:11:27.380 are all in on this
00:11:29.280 like nonstop,
00:11:30.360 like I've never seen before
00:11:31.440 on any one topic.
00:11:33.120 That's where they're going.
00:11:33.700 If Michael Bender
00:11:34.320 gave it away
00:11:34.840 because he said,
00:11:35.380 look,
00:11:35.700 in this election,
00:11:37.580 you have
00:11:38.480 the Biden coalition
00:11:39.900 that is not coming together
00:11:41.400 and it's not coming together
00:11:43.560 for two,
00:11:45.820 three primary reasons.
00:11:46.960 Number one,
00:11:48.000 Bidenomics.
00:11:49.280 Axios reported last week.
00:11:50.660 They never mention it.
00:11:51.740 They don't want to talk about it.
00:11:52.640 They're telling the House guys
00:11:54.020 don't talk about it.
00:11:54.720 Don't use that term.
00:11:55.780 That term is toxic.
00:11:57.960 Why?
00:11:58.320 The lived experience
00:11:59.020 of the American people.
00:11:59.980 So number one,
00:12:00.360 the economics.
00:12:00.920 Number two,
00:12:02.060 the invasion
00:12:02.600 on the southern border,
00:12:03.640 the illegal alien invasion,
00:12:05.400 which is destroying
00:12:06.480 particularly the Hispanic
00:12:08.280 citizens community
00:12:09.260 and African Americans.
00:12:11.620 So that's the second part
00:12:13.080 of the coalition.
00:12:13.820 Third,
00:12:14.320 a part of that
00:12:15.040 is the,
00:12:15.960 that economics
00:12:16.880 combined with that
00:12:17.660 is the,
00:12:18.320 the lack of support
00:12:20.640 they have from young people.
00:12:21.920 In fact,
00:12:22.360 as we reported yesterday,
00:12:23.720 said yesterday,
00:12:25.160 Josh Shapiro's,
00:12:27.380 a sneaky attempt
00:12:28.300 in Pennsylvania,
00:12:29.240 the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
00:12:30.180 to sign people up
00:12:31.340 on voter registration
00:12:32.140 and to put it
00:12:32.800 so that you could do
00:12:33.460 motor voter,
00:12:34.460 that kids get their license
00:12:35.680 and immediately
00:12:36.240 they're,
00:12:36.620 they're already,
00:12:37.740 you know,
00:12:38.620 they're already signed up
00:12:39.300 to vote
00:12:39.640 since you have to declare
00:12:40.580 a party.
00:12:41.980 And guess what?
00:12:43.100 With young people,
00:12:44.060 the Republicans,
00:12:44.800 I'll run them.
00:12:45.300 So now they're figuring out
00:12:46.080 how they stop
00:12:47.140 or slow down the,
00:12:48.080 the,
00:12:48.400 the issue.
00:12:49.360 And on top of that
00:12:51.680 is everything
00:12:52.260 with the Muslim American
00:12:53.480 community
00:12:53.980 with,
00:12:54.600 with Biden's stance
00:12:55.740 on the war.
00:12:56.200 And of course,
00:12:56.520 the Jewish community
00:12:57.160 with the stance
00:12:57.760 on the war too
00:12:58.280 because he really
00:12:58.760 doesn't support Israel 0.83
00:13:00.740 has been real,
00:13:01.440 a detriment
00:13:01.920 to Netanyahu,
00:13:03.080 those people finishing
00:13:04.100 what they need to finish.
00:13:05.780 But of course,
00:13:06.220 the,
00:13:06.380 the Arab American
00:13:07.340 and Muslim American
00:13:08.120 communities outraged
00:13:09.180 by this
00:13:09.680 and they're not showing up.
00:13:11.220 They're not going
00:13:11.660 to vote for Trump,
00:13:12.460 but they're not showing up
00:13:13.580 to vote for Biden.
00:13:14.220 So that coalition,
00:13:15.200 that coalition
00:13:16.120 is,
00:13:17.500 has four flat tires.
00:13:19.360 Plus you have Biden
00:13:20.740 who barely knows
00:13:21.440 who he is wandering
00:13:22.060 around every day.
00:13:23.260 They're not taking
00:13:24.120 the message out.
00:13:24.840 They're not on top
00:13:25.680 of things.
00:13:26.360 And so Bender said,
00:13:27.180 and then in something
00:13:27.920 like this is a base
00:13:28.780 plus election,
00:13:29.580 you have to have like
00:13:30.580 your marching columns
00:13:31.660 tight.
00:13:32.700 You have to have
00:13:33.420 your marching columns
00:13:34.200 tight.
00:13:34.620 This is what Ralph Reed's
00:13:35.580 doing.
00:13:36.380 You know,
00:13:36.620 the 30 million,
00:13:37.420 uh,
00:13:38.180 non-registered
00:13:39.220 evangelical Christians.
00:13:40.580 And there's a ton
00:13:41.420 of traditional Catholics,
00:13:43.000 particularly the Latin
00:13:43.640 mass Catholics
00:13:44.280 that just are,
00:13:45.680 just punched out
00:13:46.680 of the political process.
00:13:47.780 They're just not into it.
00:13:48.740 They don't think,
00:13:49.260 they don't feel it's correct
00:13:51.160 or it's right to be involved.
00:13:52.680 Where people are making
00:13:53.520 the case right now,
00:13:54.180 it's certainly right
00:13:54.720 to be involved.
00:13:55.360 And President Trump
00:13:56.020 threw down as hard
00:13:57.620 as he could throw down
00:13:58.480 in that magnificent speech
00:14:00.920 in Green Bay yesterday.
00:14:02.540 He said,
00:14:02.940 Hey,
00:14:03.060 how about this?
00:14:04.240 We'll have a visibility day.
00:14:05.640 We'll have a visibility day
00:14:06.700 for Christians.
00:14:07.340 It'll be called November 5th.
00:14:08.520 And Hey,
00:14:08.800 we'll see what,
00:14:09.420 we'll see what transpires.
00:14:10.420 Let's see how it goes.
00:14:11.480 Let's have an up
00:14:12.240 or down vote on that.
00:14:13.900 This is why you have
00:14:14.620 good morning,
00:14:14.980 Joe and Mika.
00:14:15.820 Mika's Amy Semple Brzezinski.
00:14:18.740 He's Billy Sunday.
00:14:19.640 He's quoting a gospel.
00:14:20.560 Look at that.
00:14:20.860 He's quoting gospel verse
00:14:22.100 and talking about his youth there.
00:14:23.440 They understand
00:14:24.700 they've gone too far.
00:14:27.000 They understand
00:14:27.780 that they have
00:14:29.400 tried to destroy
00:14:30.920 traditional America
00:14:32.040 and the polling
00:14:32.740 is horrible for them.
00:14:34.160 So now they're going
00:14:34.780 to try to put some makeup
00:14:35.620 on and say,
00:14:36.080 Trump,
00:14:36.400 oh,
00:14:36.580 he thinks he's Jesus.
00:14:38.060 He's an authoritarian,
00:14:39.560 right?
00:14:39.760 He's a messianic leader,
00:14:41.220 but we got
00:14:41.860 the good Christianity.
00:14:42.920 We have the Sermon on the Mount.
00:14:44.400 We're the good guys.
00:14:45.640 We're rubbing up on it
00:14:46.780 and hugging it.
00:14:47.240 It's all a lie.
00:14:48.460 They're demonic.
00:14:49.920 Okay,
00:14:50.260 totally demonic.
00:14:51.240 Short commercial break.
00:14:52.440 Back in the warm
00:14:53.140 in just a second.
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00:15:44.460 a penny out of pocket.
00:15:45.560 Text Bannon
00:15:46.640 B-A-N-N-O-N 1.00
00:15:48.180 to 989898
00:15:50.840 and get your free
00:15:51.600 info kit on gold.
00:15:53.020 Then talk to a
00:15:53.960 precious metals
00:15:54.740 specialist
00:15:55.780 on how to protect
00:15:56.760 your savings
00:15:57.460 from persistent
00:15:58.680 inflation
00:15:59.600 with gold.
00:16:01.060 Text Bannon
00:16:01.760 B-A-N-N-O-N 1.00
00:16:03.160 to 989898.
00:16:05.960 Do it today.
00:16:06.840 Action.
00:16:07.560 Action.
00:16:07.960 Action.
00:16:09.120 It has to figure out
00:16:10.500 who they can persuade
00:16:11.940 and who they must defeat
00:16:13.940 at the ballot box.
00:16:16.680 So I think there are
00:16:18.080 persuadable people out there.
00:16:19.400 I'm going to go and meet
00:16:20.200 them all over the country
00:16:21.120 or trying a book tour
00:16:22.040 into a town meeting tour
00:16:23.680 on faith and democracy.
00:16:25.900 And I'm going to talk
00:16:26.640 to lots of people
00:16:27.620 and I want to bring them
00:16:28.600 back to the story.
00:16:30.480 What did Jesus say?
00:16:32.080 What did he mean?
00:16:33.120 And you can't keep saying
00:16:35.080 you're a believer.
00:16:36.440 Jesus says,
00:16:37.040 why do you call me
00:16:37.940 Lord, Lord,
00:16:38.820 and not do the things
00:16:39.760 I tell you?
00:16:41.260 So that's the question.
00:16:42.980 And I want to have
00:16:43.800 a debate on faith
00:16:45.860 because I think
00:16:47.100 faith could be
00:16:48.100 a factor now
00:16:49.140 in these weeks
00:16:50.140 and months ahead.
00:16:50.760 And the fact
00:16:51.160 that it's Easter
00:16:51.760 makes it even more
00:16:53.400 significant.
00:16:54.320 So I know
00:16:55.600 the history
00:16:56.380 of those people.
00:16:57.200 I come from
00:16:57.940 that background,
00:16:58.540 but I had to find
00:17:00.640 Jesus outside
00:17:02.100 of my white church,
00:17:04.920 white neighborhood,
00:17:06.120 white school.
00:17:07.540 The whiteness 0.98
00:17:08.560 is an idol.
00:17:11.360 And in the phrase
00:17:12.860 white evangelical,
00:17:14.560 the defining word
00:17:15.780 there is not
00:17:17.120 evangelical.
00:17:18.580 It's white.
00:17:19.560 And that has to change.
00:17:20.880 And I think we can
00:17:21.620 change it.
00:17:22.460 And I think we can
00:17:23.440 transform people
00:17:25.600 but also we can help
00:17:27.220 people find the language.
00:17:29.440 I want this book
00:17:30.160 to be a tool for people.
00:17:32.060 Find the text.
00:17:33.340 Find the language.
00:17:34.340 Find the ways
00:17:34.940 to speak about this.
00:17:36.580 Because we're all
00:17:37.400 influencers.
00:17:38.140 People talk to their 0.95
00:17:39.000 family and their friends.
00:17:40.940 Everybody can do something.
00:17:42.340 This book is my
00:17:43.200 two cents.
00:17:45.680 But I want others
00:17:46.660 to offer their
00:17:47.280 two cents.
00:17:48.480 And I believe
00:17:49.220 in a God who
00:17:50.020 increases the value
00:17:51.480 of our two cents.
00:17:54.900 Okay, right there
00:17:55.780 is Jim Wallace.
00:17:56.460 and this
00:17:57.460 let me make sure
00:17:59.080 I walk through this.
00:18:00.480 He said something
00:18:01.440 very smart
00:18:02.160 with a lot of
00:18:03.160 gobbledygook
00:18:03.680 at the end.
00:18:04.580 He said something
00:18:05.540 quite smart
00:18:06.040 at the beginning
00:18:06.560 about politics.
00:18:07.560 And I think
00:18:08.340 he's a minister
00:18:08.940 or he's the head
00:18:10.120 of Sojourner
00:18:10.660 or another left wing 0.60
00:18:11.660 social justice warrior
00:18:14.040 Christian front.
00:18:18.460 You have to know
00:18:19.900 who you have to persuade
00:18:21.160 and who you have
00:18:21.980 to defeat.
00:18:22.920 I 1000% agree
00:18:24.140 with Brother Wallace
00:18:26.020 on that.
00:18:26.980 And that's what
00:18:27.420 I've always said
00:18:28.020 in campaigns.
00:18:28.700 You must focus
00:18:29.420 on what you
00:18:31.440 can persuade
00:18:33.000 and what you
00:18:34.420 must defeat.
00:18:35.860 And this is my
00:18:36.440 whole thing.
00:18:37.060 And look,
00:18:37.440 Florida yesterday
00:18:38.000 was a big deal.
00:18:39.140 This abortion issue 0.83
00:18:40.520 on the ballot
00:18:42.600 is a big deal.
00:18:43.200 One is that
00:18:44.500 the right to life
00:18:45.540 movement,
00:18:46.880 not exactly,
00:18:47.640 let's say,
00:18:48.100 we got to call it,
00:18:48.900 we got to call
00:18:49.340 balls and strikes
00:18:50.180 as they are,
00:18:52.100 not exactly
00:18:52.760 hitting on all
00:18:53.400 cylinders.
00:18:54.300 Now there's some
00:18:54.680 debate about
00:18:55.180 are you messaging
00:18:56.600 it correctly,
00:18:57.240 is the right
00:18:57.620 policies,
00:18:58.300 what you're doing.
00:18:59.380 But Florida
00:19:00.040 getting these
00:19:01.220 on these ballots
00:19:02.120 for these
00:19:03.400 constitutional amendments
00:19:04.520 have been
00:19:05.420 pretty,
00:19:07.160 and I think
00:19:07.560 you look at
00:19:07.960 Kansas,
00:19:08.660 you look at
00:19:09.060 Ohio,
00:19:09.620 I think Montana,
00:19:10.400 a couple others,
00:19:11.000 they're trying
00:19:11.680 to get this
00:19:12.140 out in Arizona.
00:19:13.780 It's in,
00:19:14.580 now in Florida.
00:19:15.400 and I said
00:19:17.500 yesterday,
00:19:17.960 it's going to draw,
00:19:18.620 they could spend
00:19:19.080 $100 million,
00:19:19.960 they're talking
00:19:20.240 about spending
00:19:20.580 $100 million
00:19:21.040 just on this
00:19:21.720 proposition,
00:19:23.200 and that will
00:19:23.560 bring,
00:19:23.960 because they have
00:19:24.360 no enthusiasm
00:19:25.020 for Biden,
00:19:27.260 zero.
00:19:28.740 All the numbers
00:19:29.480 show that,
00:19:30.000 all their internal
00:19:30.560 numbers show that.
00:19:31.620 That's where
00:19:32.060 they're in panning
00:19:32.520 mode,
00:19:32.800 that's why
00:19:33.220 they're having
00:19:33.600 the things
00:19:33.960 at Radio City
00:19:34.440 to raise
00:19:34.900 as much
00:19:35.380 money as
00:19:35.820 possible
00:19:36.340 to hammer
00:19:38.300 Trump,
00:19:38.740 like on the
00:19:39.140 trial that's
00:19:39.600 going to come
00:19:40.020 up,
00:19:40.660 the lawfare,
00:19:41.500 is they will
00:19:41.900 try to weaponize
00:19:42.840 that about,
00:19:44.020 you know,
00:19:44.180 Trump is the
00:19:44.800 patriarchy,
00:19:45.400 and just boom,
00:19:46.260 carpet bomb that
00:19:47.020 day after day,
00:19:48.180 you know,
00:19:48.400 they cut stuff
00:19:49.380 from the trial
00:19:49.840 itself and put it
00:19:50.580 up in the
00:19:50.860 30 second spots,
00:19:51.820 because they know
00:19:52.360 the bookkeeping
00:19:53.580 part of it,
00:19:54.860 the commercial
00:19:55.680 issues related
00:19:58.480 to the bookkeeping
00:19:59.220 part of it
00:19:59.800 is irrelevant.
00:20:01.480 This is all
00:20:01.980 why they're going
00:20:02.320 to have Stormy
00:20:02.760 Daniels testify
00:20:03.540 and they're going
00:20:03.980 to have the
00:20:04.480 Playmate Bunny,
00:20:06.820 whoever she is,
00:20:07.700 testify,
00:20:08.340 and they're talking
00:20:09.080 about bringing
00:20:09.480 Billy Bush back
00:20:11.100 in there and
00:20:12.460 have all that,
00:20:13.320 because it's
00:20:14.100 the hammer Trump,
00:20:14.780 and that's how
00:20:16.020 they think
00:20:16.300 they're going
00:20:16.540 to win this
00:20:16.960 thing,
00:20:17.160 because they're
00:20:17.580 in panic
00:20:18.020 mode.
00:20:19.280 They're in
00:20:19.580 absolute panic
00:20:20.300 mode.
00:20:24.600 Jim Wallace,
00:20:25.820 so he says,
00:20:26.520 and by the way,
00:20:27.080 he says,
00:20:27.460 the whiteness 0.74
00:20:28.000 as an idol,
00:20:28.500 so he's the
00:20:28.960 author of this
00:20:29.520 book,
00:20:29.940 The False
00:20:30.600 White Gospel.
00:20:33.380 Always gets
00:20:33.940 back to your
00:20:34.580 whiteness,
00:20:35.120 and here,
00:20:35.820 the other big
00:20:36.280 book they got
00:20:36.760 out now is
00:20:37.540 White Rural
00:20:38.980 Rage.
00:20:39.640 Do you
00:20:40.460 understand that
00:20:41.220 the working
00:20:42.100 class,
00:20:42.440 the white
00:20:42.720 working class
00:20:43.340 in this
00:20:43.600 country that's
00:20:44.420 on the
00:20:44.820 shoulders that
00:20:45.900 have done
00:20:46.180 so much,
00:20:46.960 and quite
00:20:47.620 frankly,
00:20:48.200 the black
00:20:48.840 working class
00:20:49.740 and the
00:20:49.940 Hispanic
00:20:50.140 working class,
00:20:50.720 so much in
00:20:51.160 common,
00:20:51.480 because they're
00:20:51.800 all being
00:20:52.140 screwed by the
00:20:53.800 globalists every
00:20:54.820 second of every
00:20:55.560 day, but they're
00:20:56.540 trying to divide
00:20:57.740 you on race.
00:20:58.920 They're going
00:20:59.260 back to the
00:20:59.760 oldest playbook
00:21:00.600 they've got.
00:21:01.640 I know it's
00:21:02.340 redonkulous,
00:21:03.780 but that's what
00:21:05.220 they got.
00:21:05.760 They don't have
00:21:06.160 anything else.
00:21:06.600 That's the
00:21:07.000 toolbox, the
00:21:08.400 patriarchy, and
00:21:09.660 go back to
00:21:10.520 racial politics.
00:21:12.980 I say bring
00:21:13.980 it.
00:21:14.740 If that's what
00:21:15.280 you got, let's
00:21:15.880 bring it.
00:21:16.320 Let's go.
00:21:18.200 I think
00:21:18.880 Trump's on to
00:21:20.100 something.
00:21:21.380 Hey, you want
00:21:22.040 Visibility Day?
00:21:23.520 Here's what we'll
00:21:24.100 do.
00:21:24.920 We'll play
00:21:26.260 Newsom's video
00:21:28.180 and Whitmer's
00:21:30.320 video and
00:21:31.520 Hochul's video
00:21:32.560 and Pritzker,
00:21:33.200 all of them.
00:21:34.040 We'll play all
00:21:34.640 that on
00:21:35.020 Transgender on
00:21:36.500 the Radical
00:21:37.140 Transgender
00:21:37.780 Ideology,
00:21:39.280 Visibility.
00:21:40.320 We'll give it
00:21:40.760 all the
00:21:41.040 visibility you
00:21:41.660 want.
00:21:42.760 We're into
00:21:43.160 visibility.
00:21:43.960 We'll give you
00:21:44.340 visibility, but
00:21:45.180 Trump says,
00:21:45.960 hey, 5
00:21:47.120 November,
00:21:47.780 that's going to
00:21:48.540 be Christian
00:21:49.100 Visibility
00:21:49.640 Day.
00:21:51.380 Let's add
00:21:52.260 it up.
00:21:52.900 We believe
00:21:53.900 in democracy
00:21:54.420 because we
00:21:54.860 have the
00:21:55.260 votes.
00:21:56.880 Remember,
00:21:57.380 we believe
00:21:57.740 in democracy,
00:21:58.400 not anti-democracy.
00:21:59.260 We believe
00:21:59.640 in democracy
00:22:00.260 because we
00:22:00.900 won in 2020
00:22:01.980 because we
00:22:02.480 had more
00:22:03.100 certifiable,
00:22:04.720 legal,
00:22:05.200 legitimate,
00:22:05.560 chain of
00:22:06.460 custody votes.
00:22:07.400 Yes,
00:22:07.740 we did.
00:22:08.860 No doubt.
00:22:10.060 Even with
00:22:10.720 all the
00:22:11.320 stealing,
00:22:12.540 even with
00:22:13.000 all the
00:22:13.300 stealing,
00:22:13.720 you stole
00:22:14.700 it with
00:22:15.320 what,
00:22:15.600 72,000
00:22:16.420 votes?
00:22:17.900 That's
00:22:18.380 what you
00:22:18.880 did.
00:22:19.980 That's what
00:22:20.540 you did
00:22:20.900 after all
00:22:21.960 that stealing.
00:22:22.920 And you're
00:22:23.140 still cooking
00:22:24.160 up different
00:22:25.040 schemes every
00:22:26.020 day,
00:22:26.380 different schemes
00:22:26.980 every day.
00:22:27.620 That's why
00:22:27.900 the vote
00:22:28.820 yesterday in
00:22:29.340 Wisconsin said
00:22:30.020 people are
00:22:30.560 fed up with.
00:22:31.340 I think it
00:22:31.620 was 55-45.
00:22:32.500 You only
00:22:34.160 see that
00:22:34.520 number if
00:22:34.860 you go to
00:22:35.160 Citizens Free
00:22:35.760 Press.
00:22:36.200 The great
00:22:36.520 Cain puts
00:22:37.900 that up in
00:22:38.260 the headlines.
00:22:38.980 You go to
00:22:39.380 the AP
00:22:39.820 article,
00:22:40.720 it's not
00:22:40.940 even mentioned,
00:22:41.500 it just says
00:22:41.760 defeat it.
00:22:42.360 No,
00:22:42.540 no,
00:22:42.680 no,
00:22:42.820 it's called
00:22:43.140 a blowout
00:22:43.660 because people
00:22:44.920 are sick of
00:22:45.860 these elections
00:22:46.400 being stolen.
00:22:48.140 Even Democrats
00:22:49.040 and independents
00:22:49.680 are sick of
00:22:50.340 it.
00:22:50.700 They're tired
00:22:51.220 of it.
00:22:52.700 One
00:22:53.100 interesting
00:22:53.400 thing on
00:22:53.720 Brother
00:22:53.940 Wallace
00:22:54.280 here,
00:22:55.300 and this
00:22:55.620 is a,
00:22:56.140 I'm going
00:22:56.300 to give
00:22:56.440 you a buried
00:22:56.880 lead.
00:22:57.560 He's out
00:22:58.100 there mumbo
00:22:58.780 drumming.
00:22:59.080 By the way,
00:22:59.500 I want that
00:22:59.960 guy to go
00:23:00.360 everywhere.
00:23:01.300 The more
00:23:01.880 you get
00:23:02.280 clowns like
00:23:02.880 that out,
00:23:03.920 the more
00:23:04.780 people to
00:23:05.740 say,
00:23:06.060 hey,
00:23:06.260 maybe I
00:23:06.580 have to
00:23:06.800 get involved
00:23:07.260 in this.
00:23:08.120 Maybe I
00:23:08.480 have to
00:23:08.660 join this
00:23:09.040 movement.
00:23:09.440 Maybe I
00:23:09.700 have to
00:23:09.840 register a
00:23:10.240 vote.
00:23:10.480 Maybe I
00:23:10.740 have to
00:23:10.940 become a
00:23:12.420 force
00:23:12.680 multiplier.
00:23:14.020 You heard
00:23:14.340 that term
00:23:14.740 before?
00:23:15.140 I want
00:23:16.480 Jim Wallace
00:23:17.020 everywhere.
00:23:18.600 Jim Wallace
00:23:19.200 and the
00:23:19.500 Sojourners,
00:23:20.560 do you think
00:23:21.120 they're going
00:23:21.380 to convince
00:23:21.800 anybody to
00:23:23.360 support the
00:23:24.560 radical left
00:23:25.220 and the
00:23:25.540 demons,
00:23:26.620 all the
00:23:27.280 demon
00:23:28.220 policies they
00:23:29.500 have?
00:23:29.740 Do you
00:23:29.920 think they're
00:23:30.200 going to
00:23:30.380 do that?
00:23:30.780 Do you
00:23:30.860 think people
00:23:31.400 that are
00:23:32.220 believers in
00:23:33.100 the Christian
00:23:33.460 faith are
00:23:33.800 going to
00:23:33.980 do that?
00:23:34.780 Maybe on
00:23:36.660 the margins,
00:23:37.420 a tiny
00:23:37.860 amount.
00:23:39.080 But he's
00:23:39.460 going to
00:23:39.700 inspire people
00:23:40.500 to really
00:23:40.780 rethink and
00:23:41.280 go,
00:23:41.520 yeah,
00:23:42.040 upon further
00:23:42.760 review,
00:23:43.200 I think I
00:23:43.560 support Trump
00:23:44.280 and the
00:23:45.080 Trump
00:23:45.280 movement and
00:23:46.020 America
00:23:46.380 First,
00:23:46.960 MAGA,
00:23:47.440 the
00:23:47.540 deplorables.
00:23:48.740 I think
00:23:49.300 that's me.
00:23:51.000 One thing,
00:23:51.660 I want to
00:23:52.500 make sure
00:23:52.820 that we...
00:23:53.980 I keep
00:23:54.420 talking about
00:23:54.880 the Gospel
00:23:55.300 of Mark and
00:23:55.840 read the
00:23:56.260 Gospel of Mark
00:23:56.840 and they're
00:23:57.080 not...
00:23:58.080 and they
00:23:58.560 never teach
00:23:59.120 that in
00:23:59.340 the seminaries.
00:24:00.360 Well,
00:24:00.620 this is a...
00:24:01.120 By the way,
00:24:01.760 this is a
00:24:03.180 bleeding heart.
00:24:04.540 Jesus is a
00:24:05.300 social warrior
00:24:05.960 from start to
00:24:06.740 finish.
00:24:07.040 Of course,
00:24:07.460 it's the
00:24:07.860 false white
00:24:08.700 Gospel
00:24:09.460 because your
00:24:10.580 whiteness is
00:24:11.260 an idol.
00:24:12.400 Your whiteness 0.97
00:24:13.360 is an idol.
00:24:14.600 So, and by the
00:24:16.260 way, at the
00:24:16.640 top, the
00:24:17.620 salesman books,
00:24:18.260 rejecting
00:24:18.800 Christian
00:24:19.400 nationalism.
00:24:21.020 Rejecting
00:24:21.580 Christian
00:24:21.980 nationalism.
00:24:23.360 Rejecting it.
00:24:24.860 Not understanding
00:24:25.860 it, debating it,
00:24:26.660 rejecting it.
00:24:28.420 It's interesting,
00:24:29.220 I go back here
00:24:29.960 to see where
00:24:30.560 he actually,
00:24:31.680 he actually
00:24:33.020 cites
00:24:33.660 Gospel verse
00:24:34.820 and guess what?
00:24:35.400 We have the
00:24:36.180 Gospel according
00:24:37.900 to St. John,
00:24:39.920 right?
00:24:40.340 The one that's
00:24:41.620 so, in the
00:24:42.860 beginning was the
00:24:43.560 logos or in
00:24:44.340 the beginning was
00:24:44.880 the word, the
00:24:45.360 one that's very
00:24:45.860 deep, philosophical,
00:24:48.560 right?
00:24:49.240 Beautifully written,
00:24:50.800 magnificently, the
00:24:52.080 thinking is
00:24:52.620 magnificent.
00:24:53.420 You have the
00:24:53.960 Gospel of Luke,
00:24:55.040 right?
00:24:55.500 You know,
00:24:57.120 Gospel of Luke
00:24:58.020 said to be St.
00:24:58.760 Paul's Gospel,
00:24:59.600 right?
00:24:59.840 Or the physician,
00:25:01.460 St. Luke, right
00:25:02.100 there, St. Luke.
00:25:02.860 You got a number
00:25:03.360 of citations.
00:25:04.100 I think you got
00:25:04.500 20 citations here
00:25:05.900 on St. John,
00:25:08.480 20 at least on
00:25:09.960 St. Luke,
00:25:10.460 maybe more.
00:25:11.460 And of course,
00:25:12.000 we get to the
00:25:12.620 Social Justice
00:25:13.220 Warrior, the
00:25:14.100 Sermon on the
00:25:14.820 Mount and St.
00:25:15.940 Matthew, the
00:25:16.880 Gospel according
00:25:17.440 to St. Matthew.
00:25:18.960 Guy goes from a
00:25:19.660 tax collector to
00:25:20.500 writing the
00:25:20.840 Social Justice
00:25:21.500 Warrior
00:25:21.920 Gospel, very
00:25:23.780 powerful, beautiful,
00:25:25.380 the Sermon on
00:25:27.020 the Mount, all
00:25:28.040 that, and Jim
00:25:28.760 Wallace.
00:25:29.740 But I noticed, I
00:25:31.800 go, I said, well,
00:25:32.440 man, I can't wait to
00:25:33.220 see what he's got
00:25:33.640 here at St.
00:25:34.180 Mark.
00:25:35.080 Oops, oops,
00:25:37.500 nothing.
00:25:39.240 Zero, zero.
00:25:41.940 Not saying, I
00:25:42.860 told you so, would
00:25:43.920 never sit there and
00:25:44.700 go, hey, it's
00:25:46.440 saying, they don't
00:25:47.100 want to, here's the
00:25:47.960 reason.
00:25:48.280 In St.
00:25:50.120 Mark, Jesus is
00:25:51.920 not a Social 0.52
00:25:52.540 Justice Warrior.
00:25:53.260 Don't take my
00:25:54.000 word for it, just
00:25:54.560 read it.
00:25:55.500 Don't even read the
00:25:56.300 analysis of it, just
00:25:57.460 read it.
00:25:57.920 Take it from the
00:25:58.420 beginning and read
00:25:58.960 it.
00:25:59.660 It's quite short, and
00:26:01.360 it's written like an
00:26:01.920 action movie, and
00:26:02.980 then, and then, and
00:26:04.380 then, the connective
00:26:05.320 tissue is like, to
00:26:06.900 the next scene, to
00:26:07.580 the next scene, to
00:26:08.220 the next scene.
00:26:10.400 Not a lot of
00:26:11.140 parables, not a lot
00:26:13.400 of, you know, the
00:26:14.420 thinking in St.
00:26:16.600 John, the thinking
00:26:17.880 in St.
00:26:18.380 Luke, the thinking
00:26:19.740 in St.
00:26:20.140 Matthew, no
00:26:20.580 Sermon on the
00:26:21.160 Mount.
00:26:23.140 Christ does not 0.98
00:26:23.980 pat you on the
00:26:24.700 head in St.
00:26:25.320 Mark.
00:26:27.300 Christ is an 0.99
00:26:28.280 exorcist in St.
00:26:30.340 Mark.
00:26:31.560 The very
00:26:32.180 beginning.
00:26:33.660 It's Christ
00:26:34.460 versus Satan.
00:26:38.040 Christ versus 0.93
00:26:38.820 Satan.
00:26:40.340 And in the
00:26:41.040 entire gospel,
00:26:44.060 there's a third,
00:26:44.560 the Holy Spirit
00:26:45.900 has a pretty big
00:26:47.740 role in imbuing
00:26:50.680 Christ with the
00:26:54.280 Spirit from the
00:26:55.300 very moment it
00:26:56.520 opens.
00:26:56.980 No Bethlehem, no 0.87
00:26:58.360 manger, no three
00:27:00.800 wise men, none of
00:27:01.900 the backstory.
00:27:04.260 Right, cut right to
00:27:04.980 the chase.
00:27:05.680 We start at the
00:27:06.620 Jordan River with
00:27:08.460 the baptism of
00:27:09.340 Christ and the
00:27:10.440 Holy Spirit, and we
00:27:11.280 go right into the
00:27:12.020 desert.
00:27:13.420 And then you have a
00:27:16.060 confrontation the
00:27:17.520 entire time with
00:27:19.380 Satan and demons,
00:27:21.000 with Christ as the
00:27:22.460 exorcist.
00:27:24.480 And he's not a
00:27:26.820 happy camper in
00:27:27.620 this gospel.
00:27:29.500 The reason he's not
00:27:30.440 a happy camper, he's
00:27:31.500 taking on Satan in
00:27:33.300 the material world.
00:27:35.200 Don't take my
00:27:36.060 thing, just read it.
00:27:38.180 Read it yourself.
00:27:38.840 You can read it in
00:27:39.260 one sitting.
00:27:40.020 It's quite powerful.
00:27:41.520 The Jim Wallace's of 0.67
00:27:42.420 the world, all the
00:27:43.280 social justice
00:27:43.980 warrior, Jesus Christ
00:27:46.300 is patting you on the
00:27:47.100 head, tell you it's
00:27:47.640 going to be okay.
00:27:48.780 Not in the gospel,
00:27:49.860 Mark, and that's
00:27:50.420 where they will never
00:27:51.060 mention it.
00:27:52.300 So Jim Wallace, go
00:27:53.300 out throughout the
00:27:53.840 country, we want you
00:27:54.800 to go preach your
00:27:56.100 gospel, the false
00:27:58.320 white gospel that you
00:27:59.940 referred to.
00:28:01.140 Short break, back in
00:28:02.140 the warm in a moment.
00:28:08.600 Criminals have
00:28:09.240 access to more
00:28:10.140 advanced tools than
00:28:11.080 ever, and now
00:28:12.120 they're using them
00:28:12.900 to steal our most
00:28:14.260 valuable asset, that
00:28:16.220 would be your home.
00:28:17.720 In Miami, an elderly 1.00
00:28:19.000 woman didn't find out 1.00
00:28:21.120 an empty plot of
00:28:21.980 land she owned was 0.99
00:28:23.280 stolen until she went
00:28:24.320 to pay taxes.
00:28:25.920 A stranger had
00:28:26.700 already paid them, and
00:28:27.980 property records showed
00:28:29.260 she had sold the
00:28:30.080 land.
00:28:30.780 They had forged her
00:28:31.860 signature and
00:28:32.620 registered a fake
00:28:33.740 deed.
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00:29:44.640 Here's your host,
00:29:46.020 Stephen K.
00:29:46.720 Bannon.
00:29:49.600 Dave Brad's going to
00:29:50.560 join me at the top
00:29:51.300 there.
00:29:51.540 We're going to get to
00:29:51.940 all the polling and
00:29:52.620 we get to all that.
00:29:55.100 So we got a lot to go
00:29:56.380 through.
00:29:56.940 Charlie Kirk, we're
00:29:57.800 going on offense all
00:29:58.640 over the place.
00:29:59.540 This vote to get rid of
00:30:01.460 Zuckerbuck's in Wisconsin.
00:30:03.300 spectacular, great job
00:30:04.840 to the folks in
00:30:05.480 Wisconsin that were
00:30:06.280 running that deal on
00:30:07.280 the Constitution.
00:30:08.580 That's the way to run
00:30:09.480 things.
00:30:09.800 A close run thing.
00:30:10.780 I can't give you a big
00:30:12.220 enough hat tip.
00:30:13.320 You ought to teach the
00:30:13.960 rest of the country how
00:30:14.680 things are done because
00:30:16.240 Wisconsin's not a 55-45
00:30:18.220 state.
00:30:20.260 When we won it in 16,
00:30:22.800 it was what, 10,000 votes,
00:30:24.900 right?
00:30:25.120 12, 10,200 something.
00:30:27.140 Close.
00:30:27.740 Tight.
00:30:29.440 Or 20,000.
00:30:30.320 Very close.
00:30:31.020 It's always close.
00:30:32.080 When they stole it, even
00:30:33.520 with all their stealing, it
00:30:34.540 was close.
00:30:35.040 It's tight.
00:30:35.720 Wisconsin, with those big
00:30:37.000 universities, it's going to
00:30:37.880 be tight.
00:30:41.500 Gold, 2,300 this morning.
00:30:44.300 I am not here to give you
00:30:45.540 personal financial advice.
00:30:47.240 The difference we do in
00:30:48.280 this show is for a working
00:30:49.300 class and middle class
00:30:50.080 audience, we go out of our
00:30:51.160 way to talk a lot about
00:30:52.280 capital markets, a lot about
00:30:54.140 macroeconomics, a lot about
00:30:55.460 the economy, about how things
00:30:56.660 work, and particularly how
00:30:57.680 they work together to impact
00:31:01.020 your life.
00:31:01.760 You know, that's what we
00:31:02.600 talk about, the 10-year
00:31:03.400 treasury, interest rates in
00:31:04.600 the 10-year treasury.
00:31:05.400 We do that because you can't
00:31:07.960 be completely informed and
00:31:10.420 really understand politics and
00:31:12.120 particularly the tension
00:31:14.060 points in politics and the
00:31:15.200 forces against you until you
00:31:17.040 understand money, until you
00:31:19.480 understand money and you
00:31:20.800 understand capital markets.
00:31:22.300 On gold, we've been with
00:31:23.320 Birch Gold, partnered with
00:31:24.120 Birch Gold for years and years
00:31:26.140 and years, we did the end of
00:31:27.720 the dollar empire because we
00:31:28.900 realized when Biden came to
00:31:30.260 office, what they were going
00:31:31.180 to do was going to eventually
00:31:33.140 destroy the U.S. dollar as the
00:31:34.960 prime reserve currency, the
00:31:37.080 prime reserve currency, and
00:31:38.240 that is a process that started.
00:31:40.780 That's what the de-dollarization
00:31:41.960 movement, where did you first
00:31:43.680 hear that?
00:31:44.240 Oh, on the war room.
00:31:45.440 So gold's at 2,300.
00:31:47.320 We, in our partnership and
00:31:48.900 our working with, our
00:31:50.380 sponsorship with Birch, they
00:31:52.780 give you access to the top
00:31:54.340 people.
00:31:54.580 So go to birchgold.com slash
00:31:56.360 Bannon and talk to Philip
00:31:58.080 Paschstein.
00:31:58.600 Philip's going to be with me on
00:31:59.680 Saturday.
00:32:00.820 They're so busy during the week,
00:32:01.900 it's very hard to break those
00:32:02.840 guys off, as you can imagine.
00:32:04.260 Gold's at 2,300.
00:32:05.580 We're not saying it's going to
00:32:06.400 go higher.
00:32:06.900 I'm not going to say it's
00:32:07.460 staying there.
00:32:08.480 My point is that it was a lot
00:32:10.300 lower when we first started, and
00:32:11.520 it's because of these converging
00:32:13.820 forces, geopolitical, financial.
00:32:16.340 And one of the things is, hey,
00:32:18.280 you know, Johnson's back next
00:32:19.560 week.
00:32:19.880 We had MTG on last night.
00:32:21.380 Johnson's back next week, and
00:32:22.460 with the $2 trillion
00:32:23.200 deficit this year and working
00:32:24.920 on another budget, they can't
00:32:26.220 even get concurrence to put out
00:32:27.560 about the top-line number for
00:32:29.620 this current year that we've got
00:32:30.720 to get a budget by 30,
00:32:32.240 appropriations by 30 September.
00:32:35.240 They're talking about another
00:32:36.440 $80 billion, $60 billion for
00:32:38.140 Ukraine.
00:32:39.580 I am not making this up.
00:32:41.100 This is number one priority when
00:32:42.060 he gets back.
00:32:43.400 So we're going to get to all that
00:32:44.820 in a moment.
00:32:47.280 Very important about what we're
00:32:48.580 going to go through, and Darren
00:32:49.640 Beattie is going to join me here 1.00
00:32:50.540 momentarily.
00:32:51.000 I've got a cold open.
00:32:52.600 I want to introduce you to a
00:32:53.720 fascinating individual.
00:32:54.800 Let's play it.
00:32:56.220 So, Brandy, first of all, tell
00:32:57.080 us about the election
00:32:58.220 disinformation campaign that
00:32:59.940 Mackey is accused of
00:33:01.420 orchestrating.
00:33:02.400 What did he allegedly do?
00:33:05.700 So, yeah, Mackey is accused of
00:33:09.160 having used Twitter to coordinate
00:33:11.800 with other trolls in these
00:33:13.400 private spaces, private group
00:33:15.300 chats.
00:33:15.680 One was called War Room, and he's
00:33:17.840 accused of spreading
00:33:18.520 disinformation, specifically that
00:33:20.400 voters could cast their ballots via
00:33:22.160 social media and text.
00:33:24.160 This one was specifically aimed at
00:33:25.820 Black and Latino voters.
00:33:27.040 You could tell because he used
00:33:28.140 memes with Black people and ones
00:33:30.200 written in Spanish, allegedly.
00:33:32.500 Now, basically, you know, what this
00:33:33.800 guy did is what we're all really
00:33:35.600 familiar with from the Russian
00:33:36.920 Internet Agency.
00:33:38.160 They created fake posts.
00:33:39.840 They said that, you know, in these
00:33:41.540 posts that certain celebs were on
00:33:43.100 the Trump train, for instance, right,
00:33:44.780 or they created fake advertising
00:33:46.780 campaigns for Hillary Clinton, where
00:33:48.440 they were like, we're going to draft
00:33:50.720 your daughters into the armed
00:33:51.980 forces or, you know, like we just
00:33:53.960 said, the lies about when and where
00:33:55.240 people can vote.
00:33:56.480 And just like the Russian campaign,
00:33:58.320 we've been saying forever, there's a
00:34:00.140 homegrown alt-right disinformation
00:34:02.260 campaign, and it was aimed at
00:34:03.900 electing Donald Trump.
00:34:05.620 And quickly, Brandy, we really haven't
00:34:07.260 seen the federal government policing
00:34:08.940 election interference on social media
00:34:10.780 posts before.
00:34:11.500 But what could this mean for the fight
00:34:12.880 against misinformation moving
00:34:14.760 forward, especially if he's convicted?
00:34:18.060 Well, Joe, we have.
00:34:19.360 It's just that it's not been aimed at
00:34:21.300 us, right?
00:34:22.020 The people working for the Internet
00:34:23.620 Research Agency in Russia faced
00:34:25.460 federal charges.
00:34:26.680 It's just that now we're looking, the
00:34:28.680 DOJ is looking into our own backyard.
00:34:31.300 As for what it means, you know, there
00:34:33.440 were several unnamed co-conspirators in
00:34:36.200 there in the complaint, but they did
00:34:38.300 include their Twitter IDs.
00:34:39.800 So we have sort of have an idea of who
00:34:42.400 else was in this chat room, and those
00:34:44.940 people should be pretty afraid.
00:34:46.800 I think it, you know, also sends the
00:34:48.520 message that these disinformation
00:34:50.860 campaigns have real consequences.
00:34:55.320 Now, we were the winner of, I think,
00:34:57.080 the Brookings Institute, the New York
00:34:58.720 Times.
00:34:59.260 We were on a roll there.
00:35:01.300 I think it was 22.
00:35:02.200 In 22, I think we ran.
00:35:03.600 I don't know if they gave awards out
00:35:04.780 for 23.
00:35:05.760 I'm going to have to get Natalie to
00:35:06.640 check that out.
00:35:07.120 She was deemed misinformation.
00:35:09.180 But we as a site or as a show,
00:35:11.100 won every, we ran the tables in
00:35:13.700 awards season for the year 22 that
00:35:16.020 we're handed out in early 23.
00:35:18.000 Doug Mackey, Doug, explain to our
00:35:20.380 audience exactly what's going on,
00:35:23.100 because it's almost mind-boggling,
00:35:25.460 right?
00:35:25.780 It's very hard to think that this
00:35:28.340 could actually happen in the United
00:35:30.140 States of America.
00:35:30.740 And this is quite important, given
00:35:32.320 this gag order situation with
00:35:34.780 President Trump, which gets into a lot
00:35:36.940 of this, a lot of this area.
00:35:39.440 Walk me through exactly what you did,
00:35:42.160 who you did it with, what crime
00:35:44.720 will you charge with, and how were
00:35:47.400 you found guilty, and what's your
00:35:48.580 current state or status?
00:35:52.540 Good morning, Steve.
00:35:53.440 Thanks for having me.
00:35:54.140 Everybody has to go to
00:35:55.880 memedefensefund.com.
00:35:57.260 I'm going to tell you exactly why.
00:35:58.680 So back in 2016, Steve, I'll take it
00:36:01.500 from the top.
00:36:02.520 I posted these joke image macros
00:36:06.340 from 4chan on Twitter, and it's
00:36:11.040 something that was so trivial that
00:36:12.440 you just kind of forget about it.
00:36:13.800 Five years later, seven days after
00:36:16.820 Joe Biden was inaugurated, I get a
00:36:19.100 knock on the door, and it's four FBI
00:36:22.440 agents and a whole plethora of other
00:36:25.400 law enforcement agents, and they're
00:36:27.940 telling me I'm under arrest.
00:36:29.340 And the first words out of my mouth
00:36:31.440 were, for what?
00:36:32.360 I had no idea what was going on,
00:36:34.480 especially because I was nowhere near
00:36:36.140 January 6th or anything like that.
00:36:38.480 So they dragged me to the courthouse,
00:36:40.940 and I got to go through the COVID
00:36:42.540 protocols and get arraigned via Zoom
00:36:46.380 in front of a judge, and they let me
00:36:49.040 out on a signature bond.
00:36:50.020 I finally get the criminal complaint,
00:36:51.700 and they're charging me with a
00:36:53.020 conspiracy against civil rights for
00:36:55.420 posting these two memes.
00:36:56.540 And they created this story that I was
00:36:59.760 this mastermind orchestrator of this
00:37:02.020 plot using these DM chats.
00:37:04.700 None of them I was even participating in
00:37:06.940 at the time, and it's really
00:37:08.740 unbelievable.
00:37:09.580 Everybody was posting these kind of
00:37:11.140 jokes.
00:37:11.380 Hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:37:12.140 Hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:37:15.040 In 16, which I stepped in to run at the
00:37:17.680 last 100 days, I mean, this was
00:37:20.680 everywhere.
00:37:22.420 It was the Pepes and the, you know,
00:37:24.080 people, the Cernoviches of the world, 1.00
00:37:25.440 people putting stuff up all day long.
00:37:27.780 I got to go back.
00:37:28.720 If Denver could help do this, please
00:37:30.460 put up.
00:37:30.980 I'd like the audience to see, and if
00:37:32.840 you can't, if you're on podcast or on
00:37:34.340 radio, this is why you got to get our
00:37:36.220 newsletter, which we've made fantastic
00:37:37.800 now with Kerry Donovan and Grace and
00:37:40.240 Mo and Jane and the entire team.
00:37:42.580 But just, I want to make sure people
00:37:44.480 understand what you were arrested for
00:37:46.160 by the FBI.
00:37:46.660 Put up those memes again.
00:37:47.940 Is that the sum total of what you, of
00:37:51.200 the output you put up, that they
00:37:53.140 arrested you?
00:37:55.160 Exactly.
00:37:55.800 Two memes, just throw away, copy,
00:37:58.080 paste off 4chan.
00:37:59.840 And of course, they say it's targeting
00:38:01.680 certain voters.
00:38:03.940 Well, I mean, maybe you could say that
00:38:05.960 if I designed the meme, but this was
00:38:07.260 just a copy, paste off 4chan.
00:38:09.180 These memes were going around everywhere,
00:38:10.640 like you said.
00:38:11.740 And then they say, well, if you're in
00:38:13.600 chat groups and you retweet and you
00:38:15.360 like things, that you're a conspirator
00:38:17.360 to deprive people of their civil rights.
00:38:21.200 Hold it, and how did they make that
00:38:25.540 argument?
00:38:25.840 I don't understand, because they said,
00:38:28.640 I'm totally confused even what you're
00:38:30.480 charged with.
00:38:31.280 Because they put up these memes, why
00:38:34.120 were you, why are you depriving people
00:38:36.000 of their civil rights, or their voting
00:38:37.700 rights, I guess?
00:38:38.920 Exactly.
00:38:39.980 How could they make that, how could
00:38:41.880 they make, what jurisdiction was this
00:38:43.380 in again?
00:38:43.840 Who was the U.S.
00:38:46.280 attorney?
00:38:47.400 So that's an important thing.
00:38:48.680 This was in the Eastern District of New
00:38:50.300 York, and there's no connection to the
00:38:52.540 Eastern District in this case.
00:38:54.100 I was sitting in Manhattan, which is
00:38:56.460 the Southern District.
00:38:58.280 So venue is one of our big issues for
00:39:00.740 appeal.
00:39:01.640 They argued that because the tweets went
00:39:04.340 over the Internet line, over the bridge,
00:39:08.360 the 59th Street Bridge, or the George
00:39:11.240 Washington Bridge, or whatever, or under
00:39:12.760 the water, that the Eastern District
00:39:14.500 has jurisdiction.
00:39:15.300 So this was brought in this random
00:39:18.700 jurisdiction, probably the Southern
00:39:20.460 District didn't want to have anything to
00:39:22.300 do with this kind of a case, because it is
00:39:24.400 so sketchy.
00:39:27.700 So what did they, and so, and when they
00:39:30.720 argued this in court, what did they, what
00:39:32.360 argument did they make that you should be
00:39:34.420 found guilty of felonies?
00:39:36.280 Right, exactly.
00:39:37.000 So a conspiracy to injure, intimidate, threaten, or
00:39:41.080 oppress voters for, in the, in the process of
00:39:45.640 using their civil rights.
00:39:47.820 And they brought up these DM groups.
00:39:50.980 Some of them I was a member of, some of them I
00:39:52.980 wasn't even a member of, and said, here they
00:39:55.520 are, they're creating the memes, all this stuff.
00:39:57.920 Now, here's the problem.
00:39:59.240 I wasn't even involved in these chats, because
00:40:02.000 quite frankly, as I testified at trial, I was
00:40:04.700 involved in dozens of DM groups, and people
00:40:07.600 are just spamming it all day, 600 messages a
00:40:10.180 day.
00:40:10.720 So I wasn't even reading these chats or have
00:40:12.860 anything to do with it, but they said that I
00:40:15.220 conspired with others to injure people in the
00:40:18.780 exercise of their civil rights.
00:40:24.200 Do I have Darren Beatty up?
00:40:26.680 Hey, Beatty, you've got to help me, Darren.
00:40:29.080 This is Kafkaesque, is it not?
00:40:32.560 I mean, this is the most bizarre thing I think
00:40:35.720 I've ever heard.
00:40:37.220 Am I missing it?
00:40:38.340 I mean, I don't understand what, what the, I
00:40:40.760 don't understand what the beef is from the
00:40:43.080 government.
00:40:43.180 Well, you know, I don't even think that
00:40:45.560 Kafkaesque captures it.
00:40:47.200 If Kafka could somehow be resurrected, he would
00:40:50.100 use the adjective, this is Biden-esque, because
00:40:53.300 we far surpassed anything of the imagination of
00:40:57.040 Kafka or any other kind of dystopian writers.
00:41:00.280 And, you know, again, it's kind of hard to
00:41:03.920 believe people hear, oh, a guy got arrested for
00:41:06.740 a meme.
00:41:07.300 Someone was charged and convicted of a felony for
00:41:10.700 a meme, mocking Hillary Clinton, by the way.
00:41:13.200 I think that's an important component here.
00:41:17.480 But yeah, it's real, and they resurrected this.
00:41:20.920 But hold it, but hang on, hang on.
00:41:22.040 As part of our campaign, I was brought in for one
00:41:24.840 reason.
00:41:25.100 I had never been in a campaign office in my life.
00:41:27.100 I ran for student buddy president one when I was
00:41:29.220 in college.
00:41:30.200 I had nothing to do, I was a naval officer,
00:41:32.220 investment, I had nothing to do with politics.
00:41:34.640 I was brought in for the last hundred days, and
00:41:35.900 the reason, as you remember, at Breitbart, with
00:41:38.920 Clinton Cash, we were specialists, and myself
00:41:41.880 particularly, and Peter Schweitzer, in the
00:41:44.040 Clinton mafia.
00:41:45.240 And taking, I was brought in one reason, is to
00:41:46.920 take the heat right to her.
00:41:49.100 Every day, every day in a campaign, we brought,
00:41:53.040 we brought the heavy artillery on Hillary Clinton 0.99
00:41:55.840 as a complete, one of the main focuses of the
00:42:01.180 decline of this country, of the decline of the
00:42:03.320 elite in this country, and we ripped her face 1.00
00:42:05.440 off.
00:42:06.160 And I'm proud of it.
00:42:07.700 That's why Mary Garland's not Supreme Court 1.00
00:42:09.460 justice.
00:42:09.900 I'm proud of it.
00:42:10.560 We did it every day.
00:42:11.980 Why didn't they come and arrest the Trump
00:42:14.820 campaign?
00:42:15.500 This was, this was, it was putting forth
00:42:18.300 President Trump's policies and programs, but
00:42:20.760 hey, the one, the big focus is that just to
00:42:24.040 expose Hillary Clinton to the evil demon that
00:42:27.300 she is, right?
00:42:28.700 Which I wholeheartedly believe, and the American
00:42:30.680 people agreed to, that's why she's not at
00:42:32.800 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
00:42:34.440 So, Beattie, what's the, what's even the
00:42:36.900 crime?
00:42:37.360 It's called politics.
00:42:38.720 They were on, they were on Trump 24-7.
00:42:42.920 I'm still stunned about what's going on here,
00:42:45.120 and how's this guy even charged?
00:42:47.160 A number of things here.
00:42:48.720 As you well know, they have gone after the
00:42:51.280 Trump campaign very vigorously, and it's, one
00:42:54.160 would be hard pressed to find a single person who
00:42:57.860 was instrumental in Trump's victory, who hasn't
00:43:01.400 faced pretty serious legal retaliation by the Biden
00:43:06.240 DOJ.
00:43:07.260 So, I think that is one kind of contextual element
00:43:09.960 that conditions all of this.
00:43:11.940 I think in terms of the legal import, it's obviously
00:43:15.740 important for the First Amendment, it's obviously
00:43:18.100 important for free speech.
00:43:19.920 More specifically, this is the regime, the Biden DOJ,
00:43:25.140 really trying to codify the disinformation scam that
00:43:29.340 we've covered extensively at Revolver.
00:43:31.520 We've spoken about it.
00:43:32.820 They're trying to codify the disinformation scam into the
00:43:36.700 legal framework.
00:43:37.600 I want to warn you of a huge change that could be coming to
00:43:46.740 our money and our bank accounts.
00:43:48.880 First, think back to 9-11, shortly after the government
00:43:51.460 pushed through the Patriot Act.
00:43:53.400 This gave the government power to spy on innocent Americans
00:43:56.120 by monitoring our phone and email and tracking our movement
00:43:59.920 across the internet.
00:44:01.640 Now, Jim Rickards, editor of the independent financial newsletter
00:44:04.980 Strategic Intelligence and New York Times bestselling author
00:44:08.400 is warning about a coming event that could elevate this
00:44:11.920 governmental surveillance to a terrifying new level.
00:44:14.940 In fact, some of the guests I've had on The War Room believe
00:44:17.860 that the government will soon expand their powers to track
00:44:21.380 our every move.
00:44:22.420 If we say the wrong things on social media, donate to the
00:44:25.920 wrong causes, buy firearms, or even vote MAGA, the government
00:44:29.940 may be able to shut us out of our bank accounts.
00:44:32.700 I can't say for sure if this will happen, but it's an interesting
00:44:37.140 and dire warning.
00:44:38.900 Fortunately, Jim Rickards, an American patriot and friend of mine,
00:44:41.880 has made it his mission to educate us on what he believes is coming
00:44:45.620 and how to protect yourself from the possibility of programmable money.
00:44:51.380 Watch Jim's warning video now before it's censored like I've been
00:44:55.900 in the past.
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00:44:59.000 That's RickardsWarRoom.com now to see the video.
00:45:02.700 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:45:06.020 Bannon.
00:45:08.300 You're seeing this.
00:45:11.040 You know, Andrew was the ultimate First Amendment guy, free speech guy,
00:45:15.460 and was the most powerful warrior I think we ever had in that.
00:45:20.640 It's not my specialty.
00:45:22.460 It's just not.
00:45:23.060 I follow it closely because I'm in media, but it's not.
00:45:27.500 But I defer to people like Andrew Breitbart and I defer to people like Darren Beattie
00:45:31.460 who kind of have that intellectual together.
00:45:33.080 But here's the—on the 30-front war, this is going to get down to this.
00:45:37.580 We're going to have a huge blow up here in a couple of days, folks,
00:45:40.100 over what's happening in New York.
00:45:42.680 And they're going to be—you know, the Trump guys are filing more and more motions.
00:45:48.080 It looks like the judge is digging in.
00:45:50.260 The media is all on the side of the judge.
00:45:55.400 Avenatti from prison—actually, I don't know how he tweets from prison,
00:46:00.480 but he is in prison, I think, and he tweeted pretty powerful.
00:46:04.180 Stormy Daniels and Michael Cohen.
00:46:06.760 And Michael Cohen's like a regular co-host on MSNBC.
00:46:09.320 If they're up there all the time—and this is him saying it.
00:46:11.260 If they're up there all the time, just hammering Trump nonstop
00:46:14.660 on this massive network over at MSNBC, how can Trump not say things?
00:46:19.020 So it's one of the weapons of an opposition party.
00:46:25.600 It's one of the most powerful weapons that got Trump into the White House.
00:46:29.740 It's basically free speech.
00:46:31.700 So, Darren, go back to this, because you see with the work you're doing
00:46:35.960 and Michael Benz is doing, you're telling us that, hey, darker days are coming.
00:46:41.440 They're going to try to shut you down on all of this.
00:46:44.220 This is the whole thing of lawfare.
00:46:45.940 And what we're seeing here is another aspect of lawfare.
00:46:47.920 So take it from the top and walk me through it slowly.
00:46:51.520 Yes, it's a deeper form of lawfare because it seeks to establish a really dangerous precedent.
00:46:58.680 That's what I was mentioning before the break, is we've covered pretty extensively
00:47:03.000 the emergence of this phrase, this term disinformation,
00:47:07.420 this term of art borrowed from the psychological warfare offices of the CIA and other agencies,
00:47:13.920 this term of art that's typically used in the context of information warfare with other nations.
00:47:20.400 Now, of course, everything's been repurposed domestically in order to silence Trump supporters.
00:47:25.920 And so we have this term disinformation that's seemingly ubiquitous now.
00:47:29.840 It's always used in a kind of artificial context, in a fake context, in a politically motivated context.
00:47:38.680 And it's almost always used to shut up speech that the regime doesn't like and use it as a pretext to deplatform conservatives.
00:47:46.420 That was sort of the first wave of if you say something wrong, if you say so-called disinformation,
00:47:53.700 you're deplatformed from Twitter or Facebook or whatever.
00:47:58.140 They're moving into the second phase, a more, shall we say, severe form of deplatforming.
00:48:04.000 And that's simply putting you in prison.
00:48:06.740 And in order to do that, they have to take the whole disinformation ideological architecture
00:48:12.560 and codify it within a legal system.
00:48:16.020 And so they've picked this fairly obscure and old and, frankly, kind of obsolete statute,
00:48:23.780 the Ku Klux Klan Act or Ku Klux Klan Law.
00:48:26.520 It was basically set up in the aftermath of Reconstruction to prevent people from intimidating
00:48:34.340 African-Americans at the polls so, you know, so they would be able to vote.
00:48:39.700 Of course, this is an entirely different context of somebody sharing a funny meme online.
00:48:45.200 But they're trying to say, well, disinformation is deception.
00:48:49.400 And that's basically just as good as intimidating.
00:48:53.220 It's the same type of deprivation of a right, in this case, the right to vote.
00:48:58.680 And so if they get this precedent in the door, a wide range of things, basically anything you
00:49:03.980 can imagine that's considered to be disinformation by these corrupt ruling elites can not only get
00:49:11.460 you banned from Facebook, it can now get you thrown in prison.
00:49:16.140 And this case of Doug Mackey is the test balloon.
00:49:19.180 And so if they actually win here, if they prevail, I don't think they will.
00:49:23.820 But if they prevail in appeal, that's what the implication is for the entire country.
00:49:29.200 If you say something that Biden doesn't like, that Hillary doesn't like, that Amy Klobuchar
00:49:34.400 doesn't like, you're not just going to be banned from Twitter anymore.
00:49:39.120 You're facing 10 years in prison.
00:49:40.900 Because that's what actually Doug was facing here, 10 years.
00:49:47.000 That was the maximum.
00:49:47.860 They had to do it in, they had to, the Eastern District too is, wait for it, Brooklyn.
00:49:54.520 Yeah.
00:49:54.900 Hillary Clinton, Robbie Mook, and Robbie Mook and all the people that lost the election
00:49:58.860 for her because they were too woke.
00:50:01.260 Remember, they were too, they looked down their nose in Wisconsin.
00:50:04.020 They never sent her to Michigan, never sent her to Wisconsin.
00:50:06.340 And even Bill knew it, Bill knew it, and he was warning them.
00:50:11.640 Yeah, yeah, no, no, no.
00:50:13.120 Sullivan, and Sullivan, Jake Sullivan, I was sat there and said, hey, you're not going to
00:50:17.080 Michigan, you're not going to Wisconsin.
00:50:18.560 And Robbie Mook goes, we don't need that, we got a new coalition.
00:50:21.120 But that's where they do this trial.
00:50:23.100 Mackey, what, you were found guilty, what was the penalty?
00:50:29.180 Yeah, so I was sentenced to seven months in a federal prison and a $15,000 fine back in
00:50:34.680 October.
00:50:37.720 And so where does this stand today?
00:50:40.960 So after the sentence of hearing, interestingly enough, the judge denied our motion for bond
00:50:47.160 without any arguments or briefs or anything.
00:50:49.840 So we went to the circuit and we won a bond pending appeal.
00:50:54.280 Otherwise, I'd be sitting in a prison cell right now.
00:50:56.440 So on Friday, we have some very well-respected judges in the Second Circuit Court of Appeals
00:51:03.000 will hear this case, the oral arguments on Friday.
00:51:06.220 All the briefs are in.
00:51:07.440 We got brilliant briefs.
00:51:08.720 We got amicus from the likes of Professor Eugene Volokh.
00:51:12.500 So we're very optimistic about what's going to happen in the circuit.
00:51:16.080 And we look forward to the oral arguments on Friday.
00:51:18.900 Can you, hey, Darren, can you and Doug just hang, I want to take you into the next hour.
00:51:26.620 I got some more I just want to drill down on.
00:51:29.200 As important as this is, this is what they're going to try.
00:51:33.880 This is lawfare, the next wave of lawfare.
00:51:35.920 They, particularly as we start to add more elements to our movement, as President Trump
00:51:43.720 is bringing in a broader coalition, this is going to be one of the ones that, one of the
00:51:50.720 ways they try to shut us down.
00:51:52.780 And it's vicious.
00:51:53.700 Look, we've been de-platformed everywhere.
00:51:55.540 And I don't whine about it.
00:51:56.880 I could care less because the show gets bigger every day.
00:51:59.140 But this is the de-banking and the de-platform.
00:52:02.240 And Beattie's right. 0.99
00:52:03.520 But they're going to take this now to a darker place of actually putting you in prison.
00:52:07.280 Hey, Peter Navarro, one of the best men in this country, has done more for this country
00:52:11.860 that did the China tariffs, went after China, secured the southern border when he came to
00:52:18.240 President Trump about the tariffs on Mexico.
00:52:20.820 Peter Navarro is in prison right now.
00:52:22.840 Think about that.
00:52:23.460 Peter Navarro, Dr. Peter Navarro.
00:52:25.600 Our own Dr. Peter Navarro is in prison, even as we speak.
00:52:31.440 Just absolutely incredible.
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