Episode 3534： Fight Continues To Vote Against FISA
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The vote on renewing the renewal of the Foreign Intelligence and Surveillance Act has been delayed due to a procedural hiccup, but it's not too late to get the bill back to the Senate for a vote. Will it pass?
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Capitol Hill with the latest. So now it heads to the Senate chat.
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Yes, but with a caveat, an asterisk, there is another procedural hurdle,
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something that's pretty rare. And we're just breaking this down right now that they're going
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to have to go through. You're absolutely right. They passed the bill 273 to 147 here. But there
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was a motion made by Anna Paulina Luna, Republican from Florida, that's going to hold this up. And
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there's going to have to be another vote to kind of discharge this to get this over to the Senate.
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We don't see this very often. All that is is a delaying tactic. But they have passed the bill.
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The bill is, in fact, passed, but they can't send it across to the Senate. Keep in mind that there
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is a deadline here in about a week and a half where the Senate has to sync up with the House or the
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House has to align with the Senate to make sure that these programs don't go dark. But they have
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passed the bill today. Two year reauthorization through 2026. John. All right. So Kelly Ferris says
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that they have to take another vote next week on a motion to table on the motion to reconsider.
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Can you put that in English for us? Reconsider is basically saying we're going to vote again.
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OK. And what you can do to euthanize that, to terminate that is table it. That kills it.
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So we don't see that very often where somebody demands a roll call vote on that very arcane piece
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of parliamentary procedure. But basically, you hear this at the end of every roll call vote where they
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move to reconsider. And then somebody says they move to table and that's it. That didn't happen
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today. And that's the holdup that would delay it getting to the Senate, John.
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You know, it would be very helpful if Google Translate would add congressional speak.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had
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a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the
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world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like
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that go to share the big line? Mega Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people
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had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my
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Welcome to the War Room. It's Natalie G. Winters hosting, filling in for Stephen K. Bannon today,
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Friday, April 12th in the year of our Lord, 2023. But something tells me if you're tuning in here
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Friday afternoon, you know, because I don't want to sound like the left, but our democracy is at
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stake. And I use that word in its truest actual form. And thank God for people like Representative
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Anna Paulina Luna, who have really stood in the breach and are the role model and example
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of holding the line, not just against Democrats, but frankly, in this case, the Republican establishment.
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We know we have the list of all the 86 traitorous Republicans who voted to make it so that the
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already weaponized and rogue deep state to make it all that much easier for them to be able to spy on you
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without a warrant, if they'd even bother getting one in the first place. I believe we have
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the congressman joining us by phone. If we do, we had that Fox clip opening the segment, sort of
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explaining what's going on, I believe, the way they described it as another vote next week on the
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motion to table, the motion to reconsider. Now, if you want to walk us through a little bit what
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this procedural hiccup is, that hiccup is, that's allowing you to basically save the country. And I
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use that not to sound cliche or dramatic, but what the path ahead looks like for us.
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Yeah. Natalie, can you hear me? I'm calling you actually from an airplane right now.
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Basically, what that means is that we are going to have an option. And really, I think over the next
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36 hours, have an opportunity to talk to our colleagues. I know my office is going to be
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writing a letter asking some of these members that wanted to ensure that there was a warrant in
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place in order to really protect our Fourth Amendment rights from these intelligentsies.
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So, some of those actually tried to get that warrant amendment onto FISA. And unfortunately,
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we lost it by one vote. So, what we're doing is we're trying to stop the final passage of FISA.
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And in an ideal world, if we have these members come back, what's going to end up happening is
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we'll have to go back to the drawing board. And I think in the past, it's because that warrant
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were in there. But as it is right now, I don't believe that it is constitutional. And so, it'll
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go to the Senate. And, you know, from what we're hearing in two years, we might be able to have
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the conversation again. But the object is to be able to stop this now and fix it and send it over
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the corrected way from the House. So, is the most powerful fighting force that we have on our side
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right now, besides apparently you, the viewers of this show, the people who are going to spend their
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weekend calling the offices, calling the staffers, calling the members, and making sure that we flip
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those 86 members, is it really imperative, right? Are they really holding the line? Do you need them to
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back you up in this fight? Yeah. Yeah. What I would say in my capacity is, you know, I would
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respectfully call over to your member of Congress and ask them to uphold your constitutional civil
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liberties and tell them that you want them to basically vote this down, vote down FISA, in order
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to actually ensure that there is a warrant amendment on there. Remember, this is the same technique and
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tool that the D.C. really used to illegally surveillance by not just on members of Congress,
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but also on the president. Remember, 2016, Russian collusion, that was all done under the guise of
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this FISA, and so we can't allow this to continue. But I think more importantly, you know, even talking
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to some of my more liberal-leading colleagues, you know, the FBI spied on BLM, the FBI spied on Dr.
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Martin Luther King. I mean, how many more people do we have to give them examples of? And the fact is
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that Congress actually created a carve-out in this legislation for themselves so that the Speaker and
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the Intelligence Committee would be notified if another member of Congress was being
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spied on. But that privilege does not exist for your average American, and that's simply not
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okay. And so I want you to get involved. In fact, Edward Snowden actually posted a tweet
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with information on how you can call your member of Congress, and I'm asking all of you to do just
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that. It's clear that they're whipping this like we've never seen. I've never heard of Merrick Garland
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making personal phone calls to members of Congress. He'd probably otherwise want absolutely
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nothing to do with except to secure a vote on this. I'm just curious. You know, you're obviously in the
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room. I'm sure you'll be facing a barrage of attacks after you've introduced this. But what
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is the pitch that these rhinos give you when they look you in the face and they explain their vote,
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siding with Democrats on this? What is their alleged rationale that they could ever support
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Well, what I would say is the conversation is more, I think, of the intelligence establishment
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community versus the American people, because I actually was over here in conversation,
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and there were actually Democrats that joined us in stopping what we were seeing with the
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warrantless surveillance. And what we've noticed were there was actually members of Congress that
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were watching the board, and the minute that we had it passing by one vote, they would go down and
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change their vote in order to take it. And so what you're finding is that there are people,
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and they'll try to game this on the vote. But I mean, we really do have an opportunity to stop this
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if we can ensure that these members are flipped. So I'm actually going to post a list
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of people that should, I'm hoping that people can call and just respectfully ask that they
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reconsider their vote, because these are members that actually wanted to have a warrant and member
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in there to ensure that our Fourth Amendment was protected.
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And, Congressman, before we let you go, I know you've been introducing some wonderful legislation on,
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I believe, increasing the sentences, really to life sentences, death penalties for
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child sex offenders and pedophiles. If real quick, you want to give the audience, since when you're
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not busy saving the country on the FISA stuff, you're also bringing justice to some of the most
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depraved people in this country, if you want to give us a little update on where that's changed.
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Yesterday, actually, that would increase the federal minimum for child rapists to the death
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penalty and or life in prison. And so I think that that's basically the minimum. We've gotten
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thousands of messages from people from across the country to include parents that have lost their
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children to, you know, habitual sex offenders and pedophiles. And I think that that should be the
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standard. It serves as a deterrent and it's a constitutional protection, I think, for our
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most innocent. Congressman, thank you so much for joining us. One more time, give us, of course,
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your socials and how people can support you this afternoon, this weekend, and make sure that they
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have your back ahead of Monday's vote. Absolutely. Make sure that you're following us on my personal
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because I can give more information there at Real Ana Paulina. And then also, if you want to follow
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my official comments, Ralph Luna. Awesome. Thank you so much for joining us. Have a wonderful weekend.
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Thank you. Of course, a true fighter and a true patriot. Speaking of fighters and patriots,
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I believe President Trump is speaking live from Mar-a-Lago. We will toss to him if we can.
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Our country cannot take it. No country could take it. It's not sustainable by any country.
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And we want to also mention that it's not going to happen for long. And that's why I say that
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November 5th is going to be the most important day in the history of our country. That's the election.
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It's going to be the most important day in the history of our country. Thank you very much. And
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Speaker, thank you. Thank you so much, Mr. President. And it's good to see you all.
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We're so delighted to be here with our former and future president in this beautiful facility.
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Mar-a-Lago is famous around the country, and we're grateful to be here. With President Trump
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as our nominee in the party, we are very much looking forward to that historic day in November,
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because we are going to grow the House majority. We're going to win the United States Senate,
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and we're going to win back the White House as well. The American people need us to do that.
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They're excited for that day in November. Cannot get here soon enough. The Speaker of the House,
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when we're not in session, the Speaker is required to go around, fly around the country,
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and be with all of our candidates and incumbents all around. I've been to 23 states now in the last
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several weeks, and everywhere we go, one of the first questions that people ask about is this issue
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of election integrity. The border is the number one issue in America. There's never been a political
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issue that scored so high in the polls. It is a matter of concern. And it doesn't matter where anyone
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lives, because as we say now, every state is a border state. They're deeply concerned about that.
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And election integrity is tied to border, the lack of border security. President Biden has created a
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catastrophe, and he did it by design. We documented 64 specific executive actions that he took from
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the day he walked into the Oval Office, and that his agencies took under Secretary Mayorkas to open
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the border wide, to invite everybody from around the world to come here, including hardened criminals
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and dangerous persons. And the result, we all know. The official number is 9 million encounters at the
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southern border alone, just since Joe Biden took office. But the actual number is probably close
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to 16 million illegals who have come into the country because they desired it, they designed it,
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they engineered it to be that way. His actions did that. He ended the Remain in Mexico policy under
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President Trump's administration. They reinstated catch and release that had been practiced under the
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Obama administration. They stopped building the wall. They did everything exactly the opposite of what this
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Trump's administration. They reinstated catch and release that had been practiced under the Obama
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administration. They stopped building the wall. They did everything exactly the opposite of what
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this president had achieved, and that's why we have this catastrophe. It has all sorts of terrible
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effects on the American people. We know that fentanyl is the leading cause of death for Americans
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aged 18 to 49. We know that violent crimes are being committed on innocent Americans now. Lake and
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Riley and many others who are now losing their lives because these dangerous people are in our country,
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and it must stop. And the American people are demanding that it does. And it doesn't matter which
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political party that any American is in. They have the same desire. They want safety and security,
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and we can supply that. But among the problems that flows from this open border catastrophe is
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directly related to this threat to our election integrity. Why is that? You need to understand
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something really important about federal law. Since 1993, the National Voter Registration Act,
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we call it the Motor Voter Law, allows people to sign up to vote when they get a driver's license.
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If an individual only asserts or simply states that they are a citizen, they don't have to prove it.
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They can register that person to vote in a federal election. And you see states are currently
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prohibited, believe it or not, the states are prohibited from asking someone to prove that
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they're a citizen. The federal voter registration form just has a checker box. And if you do that,
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you're good. The states can't allow it. We think that's a serious problem. And so what we're going to
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do is the House Republicans are introducing a bill that will require proof of citizenship to vote.
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It seems like common sense. I'm sure all of us would agree. We only want U.S. citizens to vote
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in U.S. elections. But there are some Democrats who don't want to do that. We believe that one of
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their designs, one of the reasons for this open border, which everybody asks all around the country,
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why would they do this? Why would they allow all this chaos? Why the violence? Because they want to
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turn these people into voters. Right now, the administration is encouraging illegals to go to
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their local welfare office to sign up for benefits. Well, guess what? When you go to a welfare office,
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they also ask you if you would like to register to vote. And so many people, we think, are going to
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do that. And you know what? The numbers are so high. There's so many millions of illegals in the country
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that if only one out of a hundred voted, they would cast potentially hundreds of thousands of votes
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in the election. That could turn an election. This could be a tight election in our congressional races
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around the country. It could, if there are enough votes, affect the presidential election. And so
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that's why House Republicans are going to act. I'm going to announce to you today, here standing
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alongside President Trump, that we will do everything within our power to ensure that we do have free
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and fair elections in this country. If we don't have that in a constitutional republic, we have nothing.
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It's the basis of who we are as a nation, and we owe that to the American people. And so what we're
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going to do is introduce legislation to require that every single person who registers the
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vote in a federal election must prove that they're an American citizen first. We have to prove it.
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That will be a new part of the federal law and a very important one. Our bill will establish new
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safeguards. It will put us on par, by the way, with virtually every other democracy around the world
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that also prohibits non-citizen voting. And this is a critical thing for us to do at a very critical time.
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Our bill also will require states to remove non-citizens from their existing voter rolls.
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That's a big problem, too. And it will provide access to databases from the Department of Homeland
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Security and the Social Security Administration to help the states administer this. As the entity that
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is responsible for regulating federal elections, Congress has this responsibility. We cannot wait
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for widespread fraud to occur, especially when the threat of fraud is growing with every single illegal
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immigrant that crosses that border. This is something most Americans are deeply concerned about.
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The latest poll says 78 percent of the Americans who are polled say that preventing illegal immigrants
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from voting in our elections is a top priority. In every place I've gone around the country, whether
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it's out west, midwest, Long Island, deep south, it doesn't matter. Everybody is concerned about this.
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We have a job to do. Here's what you need to look for. And I'll turn it back to the president.
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When we put this bill on the floor, you're going to see a record vote by Republicans and Democrats.
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You'll see that the Republicans stand for election integrity. And then we'll be able to ask this very
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important question of the Democrats. They're going to have to go on record. Do you believe that Americans
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and Americans alone should be the ones who vote in American elections? We're about to find out
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their answer. And I think that will be a very interesting one for everybody to see. Mr. President,
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thank you again for hosting us today. I'll turn it back to you. Yes, sir. Thank you.
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Yes, sir. Thank you. Do you have any questions?
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We're getting along very well with the speaker and I get along very well with Marjorie.
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We have a speaker. He was voted in and it was a complicated process. And I think very it's not
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not an easy situation for any speaker. I think he's doing a very good job. He's doing
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about as good as you're going to do. And I'm sure that Marjorie understands that.
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I think she's a very good friend of mine. And I know she has a lot of respect for the speaker.
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And would you support the Ukrainian aid bill if the speaker was to move forward with it?
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We're looking at it right now and they're talking about it. And we're thinking about
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making it in the form of a loan instead of just a gift. We keep handing out gifts of
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billions and billions of dollars and we'll take a look at it. But much more importantly to me is
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the fact that Europe has to step up and they have to give money. We they have to equalize.
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If they don't equalize, I'm very upset about it because they're affected much more than we are.
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The Ukraine situation would have never happened if I was president, would have never, ever happened.
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And everybody says that, including Democrats, that it happened to such an outrage. People,
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millions of people are dead right now. Both sides. Millions of people are dead.
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Cities are blown to ashes. You'll never rebuild those cities. That's certainly not like they were so
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beautiful. And this is something should have never happened. October 7th should have never happened
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in Israel. Should have never happened. What happened there was outrageous. Iran was broke
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when I was president. People weren't buying oil from Iran. They weren't allowed to. If they were
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going to buy oil from Iran, then they weren't going to do any business in the U.S. And I said it to
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China. I said it to everybody. They weren't doing business. They were broke. They didn't have money for
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Hamas. They didn't have money for Hezbollah. It would have never happened. October 7th would have never happened.
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It did happen. And now it's a disaster. And it's only getting worse. So, uh, it's, uh, it's very sad.
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No, I stand with the speaker. We've had a very good relationship.
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Mr. President, while you were in office, you said that you would sign a federal abortion
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ban and Congress sent it to your desk. Why should Americans trust your word that you would not do it
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now if you were reelected? Because we don't need it any longer because we broke
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Roe v. Wade. And we did something that nobody thought was possible. We gave it back to the
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states. And the states are working very brilliantly. In some cases, conservative. In some cases, not
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conservative. But they're working. And it's, uh, working the way it's supposed to. Every legal scholar,
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real legal scholar, wanted to have it go back to the states. Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative.
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And we're able to do that. You know, what we did was give it back to the states. And now the states
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are working their way through it. And you're going, you're having some very, very beautiful harmony,
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to be honest with you. You have, well, you have some cases like Arizona that went back to like 1864
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or something like that. And a judge made a ruling. But that's going to be changed by government.
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They're going to be changing that. I disagree with that. Excuse me, please.
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Just a follow up. Over the last few decades, Mr. President, you have both considered yourself
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pro-choice and pro-life. Which one is it? Well, you know exactly which one it is. And
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when I was in New York and when I was a Democrat also, just like Ronald Reagan, you know,
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Ronald Reagan was a Democrat, which sort of followed a very similar path. But if you look at
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what we've done with Roe v. Wade, we did something that everyone said couldn't be done. And we got
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it done. And I give great credit to the Supreme Court and the justices for having the courage to
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do it. What they did is very simply give it back to the state. And I'll tell you, the Democrats are
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the radicals on this because they're willing to have abortions in the seventh, eighth, ninth month.
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They're even willing, and you can call it what you want, but you go back to the governor of Virginia,
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the previous governor of Virginia, the Democrat governor of Virginia, where he talked about
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execution of a baby after birth. And you can say what you want, but that's extreme, and that's
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radical, and nobody should have that. And it has to be ended. Please go ahead. Go ahead, please.
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Thank you, sir. Mr. President, do you think the motion to vacate rules should be finally changed,
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or do you think that it's just creating chaos right now? Well, it's unfortunate that people bring it
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up because right now we have much bigger problems. The country is a – we're a nation in decline.
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We're a declining nation. We have tremendous inflation. The inflation is coming back
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at levels that nobody thought they really would have. If you look at the categories of inflation,
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they have the worst categories. Many categories are not included. And if you included that,
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your inflation number would be substantially higher than it is now. And it's already at records.
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So inflation is back, and a lot of bad things are happening in our country, but that's the least of
00:23:09.460
it. You've got Russia could end up in – you could end up in a world war between Russia, Ukraine,
00:23:14.820
and all of the chaos, and that something should have never happened. It would have never happened.
00:23:19.620
What's going on with Israel, October 7th, and what's going on with Israel could end up in a world war.
00:23:25.620
We have a president that can't put two sentences together. We have a president that can't find the
00:23:30.100
stairs off a stage. We have a president that doesn't know what the hell he's doing.
00:23:34.500
And we could end up in a world war. You know, we have just a little bit less than seven months now,
00:23:39.700
months before November 5th. But that's an eternity when people are incompetent.
00:23:47.940
Do you support the House's FISA bill that was passed this morning?
00:23:52.900
Well, I'm not a big fan of FISA. I looked at it, and I studied it, and I know it probably better
00:23:57.780
than anybody. You know, they spied in my campaign. You do know that, right? And they did lots of other
00:24:02.900
bad things. I'm not a big fan of FISA. But I told everybody, I said, do what you want. They put a
00:24:07.140
lot of checks and balances on. And I guess it's down to two years now so that it would come due in
00:24:14.020
the early part of my administration on the basis that we live up to the polls, because all the
00:24:19.780
polls, we just had another one come out. We're leading by a lot. But it comes out quickly. I said,
00:24:24.500
you do what you want. But I'm not a big fan of FISA. I think it's terrible. Yeah, Bob?
00:24:27.780
Mr. President, do you plan to testify? Do you plan to testify in your trial?
00:24:33.140
Yeah, I would testify. Absolutely. It's a scam. It's a scam. That's not a trial. That's not a
00:24:38.020
trial. That's a scam. If you read Jonathan Turley, if you read Andy McCarthy, if you read the legal,
00:24:44.900
they said there's not even a case there. That's election interference by the Biden administration.
00:24:50.340
They actually took their top guy, one of their top guys, put him into the DA's office to run it.
00:24:55.140
And it's a shame. What they have done is incredible. It's election interference.
00:24:59.700
And it's got to stop. It's a third world country. This country has never done it.
00:25:03.620
But you read Jonathan Turley, you read Andrew McCarthy, you read the legal scholars.
00:25:08.580
Every single one of them said that whole thing is a scam. It's not even a crime.
00:25:12.660
And what they're doing is a crime. They are criminals. All right, Bob?
00:25:15.700
Can I just follow up on that? Why do you believe it is important for you to testify,
00:25:22.260
take the stand in this upcoming trial? And what are you watching as jury selection begins in New York?
00:25:28.580
Well, you know, jury selection is largely luck. It depends who you get. It's very unfair that I'm
00:25:35.380
having a trial there. It's very unfair that we have this judge who hates Trump and has tremendous
00:25:41.140
conflict, as you know. Tremendous conflict. Nobody can believe that this judge isn't recusing himself.
00:25:46.500
The conflict is at a level that nobody's ever seen before. So I have that. And I have venue.
00:25:51.940
We have all these things that we've asked for. They don't give us anything. It's a witch hunt that
00:25:56.740
takes place in New York and that is taking place. And it's very bad for New York. And it's very bad.
00:26:01.220
And it's very bad for the judicial system in New York.
00:26:06.180
I'm testifying. I tell the truth. I mean, all I can do is tell the truth.
00:26:09.940
And the truth is that there's no case. They have no case. And again, you have to read the scholars,
00:26:16.100
read all of the legal scholars. I haven't seen one legal scholar that said this is a case. And in fact,
00:26:22.260
even you people said, oh, gee, that's too bad. This is the first one. All of them are scams.
00:26:27.140
They're all about election interference. We have a we have a president that doesn't know where he is.
00:26:33.940
He can't speak. The whole world is collapsing. The world is on fire.
00:26:39.060
They have no respect for our country anymore. And the only way he thinks he can win is by
00:26:44.500
doing this, you know, trials of Trump. We have Fonny in Atlanta, who's been so discredited. Now
00:26:51.380
that was a set up with her boyfriend so they could take trips and take a lot of money out.
00:26:55.860
And that's something that should be dismissed. Not just the prosecutor dismissed. The case should
00:27:00.020
be dismissed. Every single one of them said, look at what happened with Biden. He gets off scot-free
00:27:05.860
with 50 years of documents and classified information. He gets off scot-free.
00:27:10.420
And I'm still fighting that trial. The whole thing is a disgrace and it's a disgrace to our nation.
00:27:16.020
I don't want to say who I spoke to, but for the president of our country to
00:27:35.620
actually put out a warning that he thinks that we're going to be attacked or they're going to be
00:27:39.700
attacked, that's pretty pathetic. They wouldn't be attacking Israel if I were president, that I can
00:27:45.540
tell you. And they never did. They wouldn't be attacking. Iran was in no position to attack.
00:27:50.820
They had no money. They were broke. But now they have $221 billion and they have Iraq,
00:27:57.140
who has $300 billion. And Iraq has become a subsidiary of Iran. With all that we've done,
00:28:04.180
with all of the fighting, all of the death, look at what happened, how incompetent the whole thing is.
00:28:09.620
But I don't want to say who I spoke to, but I think it's a very, very dangerous period. This is a
00:28:14.900
very dangerous period of time in our nation. And a big reason that it's dangerous is that we have
00:28:21.220
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00:28:24.740
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00:29:59.820
Welcome back. Mike Johnson and President Trump just wrapping up their remarks. Now, I have to say,
00:30:11.900
since Steve is not here, I guess I got to fill the void with the rant. But shame on Mike Johnson for
00:30:16.400
even daring to utter the words national security and the border just, what was it, hours after he was
00:30:23.900
the deciding vote on reauthorizing FISA. These people are using the southern border, what is
00:30:31.100
going on there, as a means and really a weapon of distraction for you guys, the MAGA base. They
00:30:36.940
know you're upset. They know you're going to pile in this weekend thanks to the likes of Anna Paulina
00:30:41.260
Luna. And thank God that we have another vote to delay it going to the Senate on Monday. But they're
00:30:46.140
trying to distract you right now with the shiny toy that, unfortunately, it's not a shiny toy. It's
00:30:51.100
the southern border. It's the very sovereignty of this country. But that's why Mike Johnson is down
00:30:55.180
there right now, trying to look like he's playing hardball, like he's doing something, actually
00:30:59.180
accomplishing something as Speaker of the House. But I don't know about you guys. I haven't seen much
00:31:03.820
going on at the southern border that's worth writing home about. All these people who seem to care so
00:31:07.900
much about national security, getting warrants, following the laws. Well, it doesn't really seem
00:31:14.140
that to be the case with all these illegal aliens invading this country. I actually think it was
00:31:18.940
Republican members of Congress who didn't do anything when the Biden regime reversed legislation
00:31:24.540
that actually allowed Chinese nationals to enter this country illegally. It used to be 40 questions
00:31:30.700
that they would be vetted with. They watered it down to five. But here's the real kicker.
00:31:35.340
They actually used to search their phones. They didn't need a warrant. They would look through it to
00:31:40.380
see if they had affiliation with the Chinese Communist Party or any training with the People's Liberation
00:31:45.260
Army. The Biden regime intentionally got rid of that. So I guess we can't tap or go after
00:31:51.900
Chinese nationals who are entering this country illegally, but you don't need warrants to tap
00:31:59.100
Americans' phones. Well, I guess you need it to tap members of Congress. They got the special cutout.
00:32:03.740
Isn't that a nice dichotomy? Let that sink in. That's Joe Biden's America. Illegal members of the
00:32:10.140
Chinese Communist Party who are trying to enter this country basically have more rights than you do in
00:32:14.780
your own country. And they're going to tax you and they're going to send billions of dollars to a
00:32:19.420
corrupt, backwards, oligarchic, child sex trafficking-ridden country known as Ukraine.
00:32:25.180
And they're going to call you guys destroyers of democracy for refusing to really send Ukrainians.
00:32:31.100
Now we're learning it's amputated, amputees, men who are, what is it, over the age of 40 onto the front
00:32:36.860
lines there. That's what democracy means to the people who are sitting at the Atlantic Council and the
00:32:43.500
Brookings Institution and their cushy little desks going to the little cocktail party circuit.
00:32:48.940
They hate your guts and they think that some, oh, tough talk on the border is going to keep
00:32:53.660
them happy. No, it's not. You know what, Mike Johnson, I think we're going to call overtime now
00:32:57.580
this weekend, Saturday and Sunday and into Monday, because don't insult my intelligence. We know
00:33:02.860
exactly what you're doing. None of these shiny toys. How dare you even invoke the southern border
00:33:07.900
on any of this. You don't get to say you care about national security and use that
00:33:11.900
as some little distraction play, when in reality you just gave the deep state,
00:33:16.060
the very deep state that has weaponized against President Trump full reign to go after the American
00:33:21.660
people. They don't even have to hide it anymore. Someone who has done wonderful work on this is,
00:33:26.860
of course, Mike Benz, who I'm so honored that last minute he was able to come on. Mike, I honestly just
00:33:33.100
want to toss it to you, your kind of thoughts on this whole FISA debacle. If you want to start with
00:33:37.740
the press conference that we just saw, or even just the forthcoming Monday vote, what you think
00:33:43.020
is going to happen. Yeah, I share an identical rage that I feel emanating from you here. For him to take
00:33:52.140
to the press conference like that and pivot to the border, citing all of the principles. If we don't
00:33:59.820
have a border, we don't have a country. Well, you know what? If we don't have a secret police
00:34:03.980
in this country, a political police in this country, we don't have a country. You know,
00:34:08.060
this idea that, oh, don't worry about it. There's checks and balances on it now. No, there's not.
00:34:13.420
It's an empty check. It's a blank check for the FBI to do whatever it wants. And it's bluster instead
00:34:18.780
of balances. FISA is, as Senator Mike Lee said it best, federal investigators stalking Americans.
00:34:26.380
And there's something very sick and twisted about what's happening right now with the FISA fight
00:34:30.940
vis-a-vis the Republican Party. The Republican Party is in the middle of a civil war between the
00:34:36.060
internationalist sect of the GOP, the blob sect of it, versus the nationalist wing of the GOP,
00:34:43.340
the populist faction. And FISA will not be used on the blob side, the internationalist side of the GOP.
00:34:51.420
That side of the GOP associated with big international businesses, associated with the
00:34:57.260
energy market, associated with the military. In that empire managerial class of the GOP,
00:35:03.980
FISA is not an issue to them. It won't be used on them, but it will be used on their opposition
00:35:09.980
in the GOP civil war. Every single right-wing populist nationalist Republican is a target of FISA.
00:35:18.460
FISA is this idea that you can get around the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution and use the
00:35:24.460
Department of Dirty Tricks powers that our foreign policy establishment has to spy on foreigners,
00:35:30.300
to spy on Americans if you simply use the word counterintelligence instead of intelligence.
00:35:35.180
Oh, we're not doing intelligence spying on our own people. We're doing counterintelligence
00:35:39.820
spying on our people because they might be being spied on by Russia. The foreign policy establishment,
00:35:46.940
the blob, has an in-process plan to seize Eurasia from Russia. And anyone who is nationalist populist,
00:35:55.020
who decides, has a high-profile voice or any sort of political power, who wants to undermine Ukraine
00:36:00.940
funding, who wants to roll back the ability to carry out war in Eurasia, they are immediately a
00:36:06.860
counterintelligence target of FISA. Any crooked FBI agent can make the argument that if you do not
00:36:15.740
support another $60 billion this year, $100 billion later this year, a trillion over the next five
00:36:21.500
years to Ukraine, then you are helping Russia. Well, why are you helping Russia? Well, we better find out
00:36:27.260
to decide if you have Russian contacts. So, boom, now they can plant, they can tap your Wi-Fi device.
00:36:34.940
They can listen to your phone while you're on the toilet or while you're making love to your spouse.
00:36:41.820
This is the most corrupt agency, the most lawless. We will know there's checks and balances when we
00:36:47.980
see them in jail. Peter Strzok was the head of counterintelligence for the FBI, and he tap-danced in
00:36:53.260
front of the world after saying, we have an insurance plan to make sure that the duly elected
00:36:58.220
president doesn't become president. This FISA trick is a thumb-y war between the two sides of the GOP
00:37:05.740
and using this foreign-facing dirty power to basically do that cheat thing with the pinky finger.
00:37:10.940
That's what's going on here, and that's why Mike Johnson is behind it.
00:37:15.420
I'm just curious how you think FISA, taking a step back from the actual current battle at hand right now,
00:37:21.020
but how FISA fits into the sort of broader weaponization that you've talked about,
00:37:25.580
particularly on the censorship, kind of the misinformation, disinformation front.
00:37:30.700
You know, how important of a fight is this in the context of all the ways that they have weaponized
00:37:36.780
against us? Yeah, what it is, it is the FBI's toolkit side of when you are losing in a fair fight
00:37:46.540
in terms of voters and the electorate, and so you need to resort to dirty tricks like censorship or
00:37:53.100
like prosecution or like mass domestic spying on everything to find the crime because every minute
00:38:00.460
of life you're being monitored by the FBI. So just like with censorship, the only faction that was ever
00:38:06.700
censored were populists, which was in this country, that's MAGA Republicans, nationalist populist
00:38:13.820
Republicans, not Dick Cheney Republicans. You know, it's all one side because the GOP is,
00:38:20.940
the blob side of the GOP is losing the civil war within the party, losing power to the populist
00:38:26.300
faction, and they're also losing in the general with all the polls now showing Trump up five to seven
00:38:32.060
points in each of the seven battleground states. So as they continue to lose harder and harder in a
00:38:38.140
fair fight, they are resorting to the rigging, you know, basically loading up the gloves with a weight
00:38:46.380
to try to win it in a rigged way. And FISA is rigging it through essentially the tortuous process
00:38:53.980
of an American secret police. I mean, how rich is it that you have Mike Johnson standing up there
00:39:02.300
thinking that, oh, well, if I just say the words border security and I loop it together with election
00:39:07.820
integrity, the MAGA base, they're going to be happy. The war room posse, they're not going to call.
00:39:12.460
They're going to see that we're actually doing. No, we've seen through you on day one. You guys have
00:39:15.660
done absolutely nothing on the southern border except a performative impeachment of Mayorkas,
00:39:20.540
which you guys couldn't really even follow through. And it was cagey if you could even really get
00:39:24.620
there. Didn't see Mike Johnson going down tomorrow long to hold any press conferences on that.
00:39:29.660
Didn't see him calling conference-wide calls or meetings on that. No, it's only been on Ukraine
00:39:34.940
aid and FISA that shows you what his priorities are. Mike, I really think you are in some ways,
00:39:41.100
I would say, one of the leading experts on sort of the government censorship, right? This
00:39:45.740
dark money that is funneled through the government to sort of skirt the First Amendment, to use
00:39:50.860
these various NGOs to then go after, like you said, the MAGA movement. I'm just curious in your
00:39:58.460
kind of estimation. We've focused a lot on this show as of late, how they know Trump's going to
00:40:04.140
win, right? Or at least in the polls, he's dominating. And they've sort of been cutting
00:40:08.380
out these various ways, whether it was re-upping the ad hominem attacks, they've tried to pretend
00:40:13.340
like they're tough on immigration, of course, the lawfare. But do you think that this doubling down on
00:40:19.260
FISA, the spying on American citizens, of course, this dovetails quite nicely, I think, with a lot of
00:40:24.460
their talk about cyber security scares and your domestic terrorist threats because you voted for
00:40:29.500
President Trump, do you think that this is sort of a marker for how they're going to try to start
00:40:34.940
kind of warping the narrative ahead of the 2024 election? In other words, they're basically treating
00:40:39.580
us like foreign terrorists, not even domestic ones, right? They've sort of upped the level.
00:40:44.140
Like, how do you think this fits into the 2024 election kind of narrative?
00:40:47.660
Yeah. I mean, say it with me now. Russiagate now, Russiagate tomorrow, Russiagate forever.
00:40:54.540
Russiagate will never die. And FISA is the ultimate weapon to be able to skewer anybody ensnared in a
00:41:00.700
Russiagate allegation. Because the Atlantis' foreign policy faction's goal is to seize Eurasia from Russia
00:41:08.060
and using U.S. taxpayer funds to fund that war. And if Americans decide, you know what, we want to
00:41:13.900
focus on ourselves. We want to build our own roads. We want to be able to have affordable housing,
00:41:17.900
affordable health care. We want to be able to build our own beautiful kingdom. And what's
00:41:23.900
happening in Eurasia is basically for the benefit of a bunch of oil and gas companies and a bunch of
00:41:29.500
military contractors and a bunch of chamber of commerce companies that don't even have their
00:41:33.900
manufacturing here anymore. And while that fragile quasi-military, quasi-political campaign is
00:41:41.660
being waged. And we are in decade, I don't know, seven of that. As long as that is the plan of the
00:41:47.500
Atlantis' foreign policy blob, Russiagate will always be here as the ghost hanging over everyone who
00:41:54.460
wants to focus on our own domestic priorities because of the dirty trick power of being able to use
00:42:00.940
the FISA-type power, a foreign-facing dirty trick power, in order to knock out a domestic political
00:42:07.740
opponent who is undermining support for that Atlantis' foreign policy blob. And so they're
00:42:14.700
intricately interconnected. The internet censorship apparatus in this country was established through
00:42:19.020
Russiagate. And then once Russiagate basically, you know, temporarily died in the summer of 2019
00:42:27.420
with the Mueller probe having nothing to back it up, then they simply transitioned to a democracy
00:42:32.620
predicate, which is the same foreign policy watchword used to overthrow governments.
00:42:37.580
It's the same dirty trick, except FISA arms the FBI. So as soon as Russiagate 3.0 breaks out in full,
00:42:45.740
FISA is going to be weaponized to try to purge the Republican Party of any sort of dissidents to clear
00:42:51.980
the way for a Nikki Haley or Dick Cheney-type Republican to take the helm again.
00:42:55.900
Mike Benz, as always, it's an honor to have you in the war room. I'm sure much to the dismay of the
00:43:02.220
Biden regime. If people want to follow you, stay up to date with your analysis. I'm sure this weekend
00:43:05.900
you'll be coming in hot on X. If people want to follow you and support, of course, your organization,
00:43:12.380
Yep. It's at Mike Benz Cyber on X. That's the best place to find me.
00:43:17.820
Awesome. Thank you so much, Mike. Have a great weekend.
00:43:21.340
If possible. Your FBI agent, I'm sure, will watch you. Have a great weekend. I believe we got Gavin
00:43:27.260
Wax joining us. We're going to have Jane Zirkle joining us live from Mar-a-Lago. But maybe technical
00:43:32.060
difficulties, who knows? CCP, big pharma, take your pick. But Gavin, I know you have an event that you
00:43:37.100
want to talk about. But before we get into that, I'd love to get your thoughts. You're obviously a
00:43:41.180
leader in your own right in the MAGA movement. You're the president of the NYYRC, so much more an
00:43:46.220
author too. But your thoughts on this whole FISA debacle?
00:43:49.100
I mean, look, it's a sad day for our country that our basic constitutional freedoms are being voted
00:43:54.860
away by strong majorities in the people's house. I think it just goes to show the absolute disconnect
00:44:00.460
that exists between Republican elected, Republican Party leadership and the base and the basic
00:44:05.900
constitutional foundations of our country. You know, you want to you want to spy on someone,
00:44:10.940
if you want to call it that, if you have a reason to get a warrant. Very simple. We've done that
00:44:15.820
through most of our history. We should return to that tradition, to that standard. And what's
00:44:19.900
happening now on the Hill is a complete disgrace.
00:44:24.620
Now, Gavin, I know Trump's trial is set to start on the 15th, I believe. Of course,
00:44:31.420
you have always been leading the charge when it comes to protests and gathering. Frankly,
00:44:35.500
I think all the community organizers on the left are probably envious of your skills. So don't give us
00:44:40.380
any of your secret tactics. But I know you guys are holding another rally, of course, to show the
00:44:45.340
city of New York that most common sense people stand with President Trump. They can see through
00:44:50.060
their law affair. If you want to give us, first of all, your rationale as to why you guys are doing
00:44:53.740
it. But more importantly, if people want to join you, show up. I'm sure MAGA hats galore, where they can
00:44:58.780
go to do that. Absolutely. The New Yorker Republican Club is organizing another great rally, a peaceful
00:45:07.020
rally, to demonstrate against what we see as this corrupt prosecution and persecution of President
00:45:12.940
Trump by this derelict district attorney, Alvin Bragg, who refuses to prosecute some of the most
00:45:18.380
violent criminal thugs in the city, who refuses to prosecute some of the most egregious repeat
00:45:23.420
offenders, who allows crime to run rampant, but is choosing instead to waste precious tax
00:45:28.620
taxpayer resources and use the entire full weight of the Manhattan District Attorney Office to go
00:45:33.740
after President Trump on, you know, no pun intended, trumped up charges on charges that have never been
00:45:39.180
prosecuted before, prosecuting a novel legal theory where there is no victim, basically acting in a
00:45:46.220
politicized manner to impact the upcoming election and to work against President Trump's soaring polling
00:45:53.260
numbers and soaring favorability as we head into November. The club is choosing to protest
00:45:58.540
this outrageous conduct by the district attorney once more. We did it when the charges were first
00:46:05.020
dropped. We filled up the entire Collect Pond Park, which is the former swamp, now park,
00:46:11.180
right outside the courthouse. We filled it with about a thousand plus patriots, a whole city block,
00:46:15.660
and we're going to do it again this time on Monday. We're going to be there from eight o'clock in the
00:46:19.500
morning all the way through the day, I think up until at least four o'clock. It's going to be a grand
00:46:23.100
old time. So come out, all the tri-state area, bring your MAGA hats, bring your signs, bring your
00:46:29.020
flags, bring your everything, bring your passion. We will be protesting and letting our voices be heard,
00:46:35.420
that there are many New Yorkers, that there are many people in this country that are sick to see
00:46:39.100
what's happening to President Trump, and they want it to end.
00:46:41.580
The investigative reporter in me tells me that Vish Burra of War Room fame had a close hand in
00:46:50.620
making that flyer, because I see him on there. Am I correct?
00:46:55.420
Listen, Vish definitely has a heavy hand in our propaganda department.
00:47:00.460
And listen, if you have such a great pose like that, how can you not use it? We like to create
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art at the NYYRC. As you said, we are community organizers. You know, Gavin Wax,
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Vish Burra, we are of the Obama School of Community Organizing. We definitely think
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that we need to do more of that as Republicans and conservatives. It's a great tactic. It's a
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great tool to fight back against this multi-front war we're engaged in. But we will be out there
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eight o'clock in the morning, collect pond, right outside the courthouse in lower Manhattan.
00:47:28.460
It's going to be a grand old time. And we're encouraging everyone to come, because what's
00:47:32.140
happening in this city, what's happening in the state, and frankly, what's happening across
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this country with all these different court cases is an absolute disgrace.
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We were talking about Pfizer earlier. This is just one more disgrace and a list of
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disgraces that us as a country are being subject to. And frankly, we chose this over some of the
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civil matters and some of the federal matters because, you know, obviously the civil cases
00:47:52.620
are playing out. They're dragging their feet. It's going to be a long-term process. Same thing
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with the federal cases. They're kind of being pushed back. This local criminal case here in Manhattan,
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even though it's probably one of the weakest and the most laughable of all the cases brought
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against President Trump. It is moving full speed ahead. So I'm not sure exactly what
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they intend to do to President Trump. But I know they have nefarious intentions. We need to call
00:48:15.340
this out. We need to call out this crooked judge and this crooked district attorney.
00:48:18.700
Gavin, I don't say this lightly. There are a lot of people in the MAGA movement who, you know,
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speak toughly and they don't necessarily carry a big stick, but you do. You guys always show out.
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You guys are always there. I know President Trump always, you know, celebrates your loyalty as you
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guys have been. I think you were the first club to endorse him, maybe even before he actually announced,
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if I'm not mistaken. And I know it's happened a lot in part because of Ish. I got to give him credit,
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but a lot because of you and the audience. I'm really honored that you joined us today and that
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you guys are doing this. I would, I would go if I were in New York, but I don't know if I'd make it
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back one more time. If people want to follow you, where can they go to do that? Well, thank you for
00:48:58.380
all the kind words, Natalie. I really appreciate you having me on. You could follow me at Gavin Wax.
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That's on X, Facebook, Instagram, and you could follow the New York and Republican Club. We're the
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oldest and largest Republican club in the country. And as you mentioned, one of the first,
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if not the first organizations to endorse President Trump's reelection at NYYRC, NYYRC.com.
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We'll see you down there on Monday morning through four o'clock. Bring some food and,
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