Bannon's War Room - May 13, 2024


Episode 3605: Victory In 2024; Stopping The Big Steal


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

163.03008

Word Count

8,859

Sentence Count

728

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

Trump's lead in the polls in the Sunbelt states has dwindled to single digits, but Biden is gaining ground in the crucial swing states of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and New Jersey. President Donald Trump is now leading in almost all the swing states, but behind those numbers lie even more troubling details.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 These Sunbelt battleground states, frankly, for the Joe Biden campaign, these numbers are an absolute disaster.
00:00:05.220 The smallest lead is in Arizona for Donald Trump. He's up six.
00:00:08.100 Look at this, nine in Georgia, 13 in Nevada. My goodness gracious, my God, that is a huge lead.
00:00:14.620 No Democrat has lost that state since John Kerry lost it back in 2004.
00:00:19.340 How about these Great Lake battleground states?
00:00:21.240 This is something that the Joe Biden campaign can work with.
00:00:24.120 Look, Pennsylvania, Donald Trump up three, but that's well within the margin of error.
00:00:27.400 Wisconsin, Donald Trump up one, well within the margin of error.
00:00:30.880 And actually, a Joe Biden lead well within the margin of error, up a point here.
00:00:34.940 This they can work with the Joe Biden campaign.
00:00:37.340 This, the Donald Trump campaign, absolutely loves.
00:00:41.080 And it looks like a lot of the other polling on the Sunbelt.
00:00:42.920 I have to admit, none of this is playing out as I thought it would.
00:00:46.560 Trump is now leading in almost all the swing states.
00:00:50.300 But behind those numbers lie even more troubling details.
00:00:53.840 As someone worried about the prospects of a second Trump term, I think it's best to be honest about reality.
00:01:02.020 I understand that polls are not always accurate, but in general, they have tended to underestimate Donald Trump's support, not overestimate it.
00:01:10.260 I doubt that there are many shy Biden voters in the country.
00:01:14.000 There's so many people here.
00:01:16.960 There's so many people here.
00:01:19.080 Man.
00:01:21.260 Over 100,000 people.
00:01:23.880 This is supposed to be.
00:01:25.520 You know, they thought they'd hit 40.
00:01:28.200 So they more than doubled it.
00:01:29.840 But you can't even see the end.
00:01:31.240 I wish we didn't have the press here.
00:01:32.600 I wish we moved them the hell back so they'd have.
00:01:34.780 Because they can't see in the back.
00:01:36.120 And I will secure our elections.
00:01:39.860 We have to secure our elections.
00:01:41.920 Our goal will be one day voting with paper ballots, proof of citizenship and voter ID.
00:01:48.100 Very simple.
00:01:48.900 And we have honest elections.
00:01:51.360 But until then, Republicans must win.
00:01:54.300 We have to win this election coming up.
00:01:56.900 We want to landslide.
00:01:58.300 And frankly, there's an expression I've been using.
00:02:00.600 You've got to make it too big to rig.
00:02:03.220 If we win by enough, it doesn't matter.
00:02:05.800 They can't do it.
00:02:07.360 So if you want to save America, register.
00:02:09.700 Get an absentee or mail-in ballot.
00:02:11.740 Vote early or vote on Election Day.
00:02:14.620 It doesn't matter.
00:02:15.520 But whatever you do, you must get out and vote.
00:02:17.900 If they would accept the results of November's elections.
00:02:22.240 Their answers are far from reassuring.
00:02:25.200 It all starts with Donald Trump, who has not committed to accepting the results of the 2024 race.
00:02:30.440 Senator J.D. Vance told CNN's State of the Union yesterday that he'll accept the results if they're, quote, fair and free.
00:02:39.360 In February, he told ABC News that if he were vice president in 2020, he would have told states to submit alternate slates of electors and let Congress decide.
00:02:49.440 Senator Tim Scott dodged eight times when Meet the Press host Kristen Welker asked if he'd accept the next election's results, calling it a hypothetical question.
00:03:01.040 Congresswoman Elise Stefanik said she'll accept results if constitutional, but also said the 2020 election was not because of COVID era changes to voting.
00:03:13.160 Senator Lindsey Graham told Meet the Press on Sunday that he'll accept the results if there is no massive cheating.
00:03:21.480 And Congressman Byron Donalds will accept the results if he thinks they're fair and if states follow their own laws.
00:03:31.160 So it is it's all subjective.
00:03:33.260 If they like the results, they'll accept the results.
00:03:37.200 If they don't like the results, they won't accept the results.
00:03:40.640 On day one, we're going to rebuild our cities into beacons of hope, safety and beauty better than they have ever been before.
00:03:47.920 We will take over the horrible run capital of our nation, Washington, D.C., and clean it up, renovate it, rebuild our capital city so that it no longer is a nightmare of murder and crime.
00:04:00.940 People are being murdered there on a weekly basis, but rather it will become the most beautiful capital anywhere in the world.
00:04:08.140 We're going to fix it, renovate it, and make it free of crime.
00:04:12.800 When I'm president, we will not allow our colleges to be taken over by violent radicals.
00:04:17.860 And if you come here from another country and try to bring jihadism or anti-Americanism or anti-Semitism to our campuses, we will immediately deport you.
00:04:28.660 You'll be out of that school.
00:04:31.360 Because we are going to officially play in the state of New Jersey.
00:04:36.920 We're going to win the state of New Jersey.
00:04:38.700 The shift here is stark.
00:04:41.080 On the question of who voters trust more to deal with the economy, Trump has a 22-point lead over Biden, according to an NBC poll from January.
00:04:50.700 This marks a 15-point bump for Trump compared to the same poll in 2020.
00:04:56.000 Perhaps this is because inflation is a far more pervasive problem than unemployment, affecting all Americans every day.
00:05:05.040 Perhaps it's because people's views on the economy now are largely derived from their broader attitudes towards the candidates.
00:05:11.780 But whatever the reasons, it's a stunning reversal in the midst of a relentless stream of good economic news.
00:05:17.180 But on the other great cultural issue, immigration, Biden is 35 points behind Trump as to who would handle it better.
00:05:25.780 And I do wonder whether abortion will be as large an issue in a presidential race, given that reversing Roe v. Wade threw the issue to state governments and legislatures and not the federal government.
00:05:37.420 Perhaps the most worrying new trend for the Democrats is that far from being the more unified party, they are now bitterly divided over the war in Gaza.
00:05:47.600 Bernie Sanders has said the eruption of pro-Palestinian protests could be Biden's Vietnam and even invoke the specter of Lyndon Johnson choosing not to run for re-election in 1968 because of the opposition to that war.
00:06:02.760 Meanwhile, Republicans seem to be uniting behind Trump.
00:06:05.900 Whatever opposition he faced in the primaries has largely melted away.
00:06:11.020 And the trials against him keep him in the spotlight, infuriate his base who sees him as a martyr, and even may serve to make him the object of some sympathy among people in general who believe that his prosecutors are politically motivated.
00:06:27.280 This happens to be true, in my opinion.
00:06:29.200 I doubt the New York indictment would have been brought against a defendant whose name was not Donald Trump.
00:06:34.640 A majority of Americans are skeptical that Trump will be able to get a fair trial, according to a CNN poll.
00:06:40.820 Carried out by radical Democrat district attorney, you know who he is?
00:06:52.920 Fat Alvin.
00:06:56.520 Corrupt guy.
00:06:57.560 A woman who's done an incredible job in Delaware, GOP chair, Julianne Murray, she got rid of the mail-in voting, she got rid of all sorts of things, and she says we're going to win Delaware.
00:07:12.500 That's a nice surprise.
00:07:14.260 But trend lines are not working in Biden's favor.
00:07:17.800 He needs to do something bold and dramatic to seize the initiative, on asylum policy, for example, and reverse these numbers.
00:07:25.820 The one that troubles me the most is on the question of who was the more competent.
00:07:33.300 Joe Biden led Donald Trump by nine points in 2020, but Trump now leads by 16 points in January 2024.
00:07:42.700 That 25-point shift could be a reflection of people's sense that the president's age is affecting his capacity to govern.
00:07:51.560 And there's very little that Joe Biden can do now to change that perception.
00:07:57.440 The great silent majority is rising like never before, and under our leadership, the forgotten man and woman will be forgotten no longer.
00:08:07.640 We are one movement, one people, one family, and one beautiful, glorious nation under God.
00:08:13.940 And together, we will make America powerful again.
00:08:21.560 We will make America wealthy again.
00:08:25.660 We will make America strong again.
00:08:30.380 We will make America proud again.
00:08:34.600 We will make America safe again.
00:08:39.940 And we will make America great again.
00:08:46.200 God bless you all.
00:08:48.500 Let's win this state.
00:08:49.800 We're going to win it.
00:08:51.060 Thank you.
00:08:54.400 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:08:59.260 Pray for our enemies.
00:09:01.220 Because we're going medieval on these people.
00:09:04.480 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:09:08.740 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:09:10.660 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:09:12.080 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:09:14.780 It's going to happen.
00:09:15.820 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:09:19.360 Mega media.
00:09:20.360 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:09:26.280 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:09:29.980 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:09:36.280 War Room.
00:09:37.180 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:09:39.160 It's Monday, 13 May in the year of our Lord, 2024, a weekend where many things became clearer.
00:09:51.200 I know not to the didn't have to, the war and posse.
00:09:53.900 You've been following this every day for the last couple of years, but it's becoming clearer and clearer every day of what reality is here in the United States of America.
00:10:02.660 100,000 people at a historic, I think it's the largest crowd, or at least it seems like the largest crowd, at least in modern American politics.
00:10:12.580 Maybe FDR got something like that back in the 40s during World War II.
00:10:18.360 But this was an absolutely stunning, on kind of a windy and chilly afternoon in New Jersey.
00:10:24.620 100,000 people.
00:10:26.120 And President Trump went there.
00:10:28.200 He went, it was a barn burner speech.
00:10:30.880 Scott Pressler and so many others were sending videos all day, and those videos were of a group of voters who were focused on point, knew the urgency of the moment, and were young.
00:10:46.320 This has rattled the Democratic Party.
00:10:48.740 Also, starting yesterday and then continuing this morning, polling numbers come out, and it's just not the top lines.
00:10:56.500 There are absolute blowouts from President Trump.
00:10:59.200 The crosstabs are even worse.
00:11:01.680 The Democratic coalition of Joe Biden, right, in the illegitimate stolen election of 2020 has shattered.
00:11:09.860 Everything they tried to hide behind of when they did the phony mail-in ballots is shattering before them.
00:11:15.720 Hispanics, and particularly working-class Hispanics, now coming to President Trump's movement in record numbers.
00:11:22.140 Axios is reporting that.
00:11:23.480 In the crosstabs and in the battleground states, a 12-point lead, in a New York Times poll, a 12-point lead in Nevada, driven by working-class Hispanics coming to the MAGA movement.
00:11:36.380 African-American men coming to the MAGA movement.
00:11:39.500 Asian-Americans coming to the MAGA movement.
00:11:41.780 People under 30 and under 35 coming to support President Trump across the board, just in state after state and demographic after demographic.
00:11:53.360 People are hearing his call and remembering the peace and prosperity that President Trump gave to us.
00:12:01.100 You've seen also the contrast yesterday with Fareed Zakara.
00:12:04.740 And Fareed Zakara is very up front.
00:12:06.120 He said, hey, this is not how I called it.
00:12:08.620 I thought it was going to be very different.
00:12:10.220 But people got to start facing reality versus still mourning Joe.
00:12:14.900 Mourning Joe.
00:12:16.400 Mourning Joe there with Donnie Deutsch.
00:12:19.200 And mourning Mika.
00:12:20.440 What are they whining about?
00:12:21.580 They're whining about, oh, these people haven't said what they're going to accept.
00:12:24.300 OK, number one, we're going to win.
00:12:26.540 Number two, we're only going to accept what is an absolute fair and free and certifiable election.
00:12:36.260 Not the election you stole in 2020.
00:12:40.140 And mourning Joe and mourning Mika, why don't you go back?
00:12:42.020 Let's break down the 81 million votes.
00:12:43.680 Where are they now?
00:12:45.880 How does any clown lose this kind of support in just four years?
00:12:49.520 It doesn't happen.
00:12:50.180 It's never happened, ever happened before in American politics.
00:12:55.880 And that's because 81 million people didn't vote for him.
00:12:59.740 The centerpiece, and people have to remember this, particularly there was an article, I think it was in Axios, about the RNC.
00:13:05.160 And, you know, they were asking people the RNC when they rehired them or hired them.
00:13:09.020 They don't, because the media is going nuts.
00:13:10.780 You have to take a loyalty pledge.
00:13:11.960 You have to take a pledge that says the 2020 election was stolen.
00:13:15.180 The RNC doesn't do that.
00:13:16.340 They just ask people if they support President Trump.
00:13:18.300 That's like people come in now and say, oh, I support President Trump.
00:13:20.460 No.
00:13:21.080 If you do not understand and have not done the work and gotten the knowledge yourself to understand the 2020 election was stolen, that's the railhead of all of it.
00:13:33.600 You cannot understand President Trump.
00:13:35.960 You cannot understand the MAGA movement.
00:13:38.700 You can't understand how we're driving forward.
00:13:41.300 And I meet so many people, oh, Steve, you just got to know.
00:13:43.200 So this is the reason Trump is up, because now independents and Democrats sitting there going, yeah, exactly.
00:13:49.240 How did Biden get here?
00:13:50.900 How would any person that was a legitimate president of the United States do what he's done to this country?
00:13:56.500 The massive spending to enrich his cronies and impoverish the working class and lower middle class?
00:14:02.840 Why is this an invasion, a conceived, plotted, designed, executed, and exacerbated invasion on our southern border to drive down wages among the working class?
00:14:15.900 Why do you think working class Hispanics are coming to our movement?
00:14:18.400 Why do you think African-American men are coming to our movement?
00:14:21.020 They understand what the con is.
00:14:23.420 They understand exactly what Biden's doing.
00:14:25.440 And they're saying, no, I'm not going to continue to vote for my own destruction.
00:14:30.860 The railhead of all this is the stolen election of 2020.
00:14:34.660 The more they whine about it, the more they freak out about it, the more we're going to hammer it.
00:14:39.860 Let me repeat this.
00:14:41.620 The 2020 election was stolen.
00:14:43.600 Joe Biden never got 81 million votes.
00:14:46.060 And we're going to rub their nose in it.
00:14:47.820 We need now an official investigation.
00:14:49.880 We don't get it now, Johnson.
00:14:51.080 We're going to get it starting in the afternoon of 20 January, 2025.
00:14:55.740 Short commercial break.
00:14:57.140 The greatest mayor in America will join me next.
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00:16:19.620 They are the guys that went to Ivy League colleges and won't defend their father's honor.
00:16:26.180 They won't defend their wife's honor.
00:16:28.300 They will allow Donald Trump to say the worst, most humiliating things about them constantly.
00:16:39.520 How do I say it politely?
00:16:42.640 Just don't use the word.
00:16:44.860 Don't use the word, Joe.
00:16:45.880 Don't do it.
00:16:46.380 I used it once.
00:16:47.200 I got in a lot of trouble.
00:16:48.320 Don't do it.
00:16:49.520 Yeah.
00:16:49.760 They just, well, I can't say it.
00:16:56.240 They just, he undermines them and he humiliates them.
00:17:02.360 And they just come back for more.
00:17:06.100 In Trump's more head than he's ever been.
00:17:10.300 More, fewer people think January 6th was of any kind of what it was, is an assault on the temple of democracy, the Constitution.
00:17:21.360 I don't know what the f**k you want to say.
00:17:23.180 It's going the wrong way.
00:17:24.940 It's not working.
00:17:27.500 Everything that we're throwing is spaghetti at a wall and none of it is sticking.
00:17:34.100 Me included.
00:17:35.300 And it's odd when you start in your 80th year and you, you know, like anybody else, I have an opinion of myself.
00:17:46.920 And the opinion I've come to is, I don't matter.
00:17:50.980 It doesn't matter.
00:17:52.360 You can prepare.
00:17:53.880 You can be on TV.
00:17:55.520 You can write pieces.
00:17:57.500 You can have a YouTube channel.
00:17:59.580 You can have a podcast.
00:18:02.280 And nothing.
00:18:04.520 Nothing.
00:18:06.160 And, you know, we've got to, like, try to think of something different.
00:18:12.580 Because what we're doing is really, really not working.
00:18:18.560 Okay.
00:18:19.220 And what we're doing is really, really working.
00:18:23.700 Remember, because we dig in on this show and because this audience digs in, and we say being force multipliers,
00:18:33.440 this is one of the essential parts of the activist nature of the show and the activist nature of the audience.
00:18:42.580 Our strategy is winning.
00:18:44.020 Remember, we always think about it.
00:18:46.940 Keep in mind, we don't have any of the vast billions and hundreds of billions of dollars of the acceptable corporate media,
00:18:55.580 including Fox News, the Murdochs, or WABC.
00:18:59.240 We'll get into that in a second with Rudy.
00:19:00.780 None of that's on our side, ever.
00:19:03.220 What do we have?
00:19:03.920 You have a handful of podcasts.
00:19:05.320 You've got a channel like Real America's Voice.
00:19:06.940 You've got a handful of shows.
00:19:08.320 You've got the John Frederick Radio Network and others.
00:19:10.360 But we have you.
00:19:13.220 He has no force multipliers because people don't buy it.
00:19:19.340 Even the people on their side don't really buy it.
00:19:21.480 That's why you don't see this kind of energy that comes out after they hit him every day with propaganda.
00:19:25.960 An election was stolen.
00:19:26.820 Trump's anti-democratic forces.
00:19:30.340 The CNN poll showed just the other day that among independents, which is a proxy for the American people,
00:19:37.600 Trump is up 11 points of who would be a better guardian of democracy.
00:19:43.640 As the book, Isaac Garnsdorff, who's a left winger of the Washington Post,
00:19:49.080 Finish What We Started, talks about the precinct strategy.
00:19:52.180 That is about democracy.
00:19:53.560 The editors or the publishing company had to put on how Trump's MAGA army is going to end democracy
00:19:59.220 when the whole book is about what Edmund Burke talked about, the little platoons.
00:20:03.460 It's about democracy at the lowest levels, at the school board level, at the precinct level,
00:20:08.080 at the town hall level, at the smallest of the community level.
00:20:13.200 That's democracy.
00:20:14.820 By 11 points, the American people think Trump would be a better guardian than that
00:20:18.420 with all this anti-democratic nonsense put out, everything about J6.
00:20:23.820 We're winning because of you.
00:20:25.680 You are the righteous indignation of the American people, and you represent patriots from time
00:20:34.540 and memorial that are not prepared to have their republic stolen against all odds.
00:20:40.660 And Trump, President Trump now, it's not just the leads in these polls.
00:20:46.020 It's not just the leads even in the battleground states.
00:20:49.260 The nine points in North Carolina, the 12 points in Nevada.
00:20:52.420 They don't even do Florida and Ohio anymore.
00:20:55.160 That's out there.
00:20:55.860 They're huge MAGA states.
00:20:58.400 He's leading everywhere, I think, except for Wisconsin in the Siena College New York Times poll.
00:21:04.340 And note to self, the New York Times, the beloved paper of record of our republic,
00:21:09.420 are not exactly Trump and MAGA fans.
00:21:14.020 They're betting everything now.
00:21:15.540 Now, having failed to stop Trump, and most importantly, Trump's movement,
00:21:19.260 did I mention the 100,000 people at the rally on a Saturday in May?
00:21:25.080 They now have one roll of the dice.
00:21:29.980 One roll of the dice.
00:21:31.760 And that's in this corrupt New York courtroom.
00:21:34.160 But even that, people are seeing it's totally political.
00:21:37.400 They don't even know what the crime is.
00:21:38.860 So all of their aspects of lawfare, everything they're doing is collapsing around them.
00:21:46.020 So two things.
00:21:47.360 Number one, I've never been an advocate they're going to try to change Biden now.
00:21:50.960 But the pressure they're getting from all corners, all bets are off.
00:21:56.500 Just, I'm telling people right now, break this, break what's going to happen this next year,
00:22:01.000 the year of decision for the American people.
00:22:02.800 One year.
00:22:03.300 One year from today in 2025.
00:22:05.880 Break it down to three component pieces.
00:22:07.780 One, the run-up to the 2020 election on 5 November.
00:22:11.660 And they're going to come and chop block and do everything possible.
00:22:14.780 Mark Elias are already doing this in the states.
00:22:16.540 They're going to try to do everything to steal this election.
00:22:18.560 And if they have to, trade Biden out.
00:22:21.280 Or who knows?
00:22:22.900 October surprise.
00:22:23.920 Who knows what they're going to try to do to President Trump.
00:22:26.080 And that, to me, is a number one priority.
00:22:28.940 The protection of Donald J. Trump.
00:22:31.120 After that, from November 5th.
00:22:32.640 Because remember, on the evening of November 3rd, 2020,
00:22:35.500 Trump was winning in a massive landslide.
00:22:37.160 Between November 5th and the inauguration itself, about 80 days later,
00:22:42.860 Mark Elias, Jamie Raskin, they will do everything to take the victory from Trump like they did in 2020.
00:22:50.180 If they can't do that, they will do the nullification project, what they did in 2016,
00:22:55.120 and try to delegitimize him in front of the world and front of the nation.
00:22:58.300 That, oh, this were irregularities.
00:23:00.960 He stole it.
00:23:02.100 You know, his people were harassing poll workers.
00:23:04.500 You watch it.
00:23:05.560 So that's part two.
00:23:06.560 That's the second phase.
00:23:07.380 The third phase is the first hundred days of Trump's second term,
00:23:10.900 which would have ended about sometime last week, I think.
00:23:14.300 The first hundred days, where he's got to seal the border, start the mass deportations,
00:23:19.440 work on getting the tax cuts that are going away back, stop the massive federal spending,
00:23:24.200 work on the economy, work on our capital markets.
00:23:26.460 Oh, by the way, in Ukraine, in Israel, in the Red Sea, in the South China Sea,
00:23:32.220 tried to tamp down the beginning of the kinetic part of the Third World War.
00:23:36.400 That's what you got the next year.
00:23:37.540 The next year, because it ain't going to end on November 5, people, please, please,
00:23:42.160 please remember back to 2016.
00:23:44.660 They're going to do everything to steal this election.
00:23:46.960 That's why you have to be on the ramparts, and you have to be on the ramparts 24-7
00:23:50.480 if you love this republic.
00:23:52.680 Because now they realize everything they've tried since they stole the election
00:23:58.480 and forced Trump back to Mar-a-Lago on the 20th of January, 2021, has failed.
00:24:04.200 He's leaning across the board, and Fareed Zakhar just threw in the towel and said,
00:24:08.560 this is not working.
00:24:10.120 You've got to try something else.
00:24:12.720 And this is why their new mantra is they won't accept.
00:24:15.060 Look, we ain't going to accept anything until we see, until we check every box
00:24:19.280 and we certify everything.
00:24:20.240 We see what you did in 2020, and hey, guess what?
00:24:23.060 We're going to have full accountability and full transparency
00:24:25.680 and hold those people accountable that stole the 2020 election.
00:24:29.440 If you do not believe the 2020 election was stolen,
00:24:33.780 you're not at the railhead of this movement.
00:24:36.420 That is the original sin of what's happened in modern politics.
00:24:41.040 They stole it, and they bragged about it, and they know they stole it.
00:24:44.760 And we're not going to sit here like establishment Republicans
00:24:47.460 who are too gutless and don't have the fight to stand up and say no.
00:24:53.560 No.
00:24:53.860 In this republic, we're going to have free and honest and certifiable elections.
00:24:59.140 We're not going to let you steal it, because now you've seen between the invasion
00:25:04.080 and the Marxist takeover universities, and yes, the bubbling anti-Western jihad
00:25:09.580 that's going on right now, the emerging anti-Western jihad.
00:25:12.440 Rudy Giuliani, the mayor of New York.
00:25:14.580 Rudy, observations and comments on my open, sir?
00:25:20.200 I think you're right on, Steve.
00:25:21.940 And I think we're at and in the middle of the turning point.
00:25:25.580 I mean, the reality is, every time I think they're going to stop and they're going to
00:25:31.300 slow down and realize they've gone too far, and that goes back to when they put Peter in
00:25:35.660 prison or they just keep doubling.
00:25:39.880 I don't even doubling down is the right expression.
00:25:42.880 They just keep going in the same direction.
00:25:44.720 I don't think they're capable of making a change.
00:25:47.740 And I think what's happened is, an increasing number of the American people, even those
00:25:53.920 that had doubts about Trump, even those that had anger at Trump, are looking at the other
00:26:00.900 side and saying, oh my goodness, this is, all you have to do is be a halfway person of
00:26:08.960 common sense, and you look at that trial in New York, and you say, either one, and you
00:26:13.660 say to yourself, they're screwing him.
00:26:17.580 They're not treating him the way anybody else would be treated.
00:26:20.080 Pick any ruling you want.
00:26:21.820 People have common sense.
00:26:23.440 So last night, I went to this movie, Civil War, which Don't Bother to Go, and then afterwards
00:26:30.280 was with a group of people discussing it.
00:26:32.560 And three quarters of these people, this is about eight people, three quarters, Biden voters
00:26:39.640 last time, I wouldn't call them Trump haters, this is a no way vote now.
00:26:46.220 This is like, I could never vote for Biden, and I'm going to vote for Trump, because he'll
00:26:54.080 reverse this.
00:26:55.020 Now, this had a lot to do with Israel, but it also had to do with, how can anybody escape
00:27:00.040 the fact that our country is in crisis right now?
00:27:03.600 Most of them said, most of them over 50, 60 years old.
00:27:08.060 I've never seen it like this.
00:27:09.620 I have never seen this country in this condition, and it's due to one person, Biden, and whatever
00:27:16.360 his deficiencies, we lived through four years of Trump, and surely nothing terrible happened.
00:27:23.360 We would say a lot of great things happened.
00:27:25.780 So I think if we can just keep it going, I keep waiting for the next shoe to drop, Steve,
00:27:32.240 because I think these guys are smart enough to step back and say, what do we got to do
00:27:37.260 to them now?
00:27:39.040 What's the next one?
00:27:41.340 I mean, they also understand, they also understand the accountability we're going to put them
00:27:45.020 through.
00:27:45.200 Rudy, if you can just hang on, Rudy Giuliani's with us.
00:27:48.960 Actually, in the courtroom today, when they're rolling out Michael Cohen, that's their big
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00:27:54.080 Andrew Giuliani is there.
00:27:55.520 He's going to step out, I think, in the 11 o'clock hour and talk to us.
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00:31:18.500 Not a better way to kick off a week, particularly on the weekend we had with the 100,000 rally and the complete meltdown, the polling coming in, and now the complete meltdown by our betters over at corporate media.
00:31:31.220 They have two giants in modern American history, not just in this movement, but in modern American history.
00:31:38.000 And here's why they're giants.
00:31:39.580 Not only do they put principle above their own good, but even when confronted, and this is the test, just like Trump, when confronted, they don't back down.
00:31:49.820 They double down.
00:31:51.500 Mayor Rudy Giuliani, the greatest mayor of New York City ever had, and Dr. John Eastman.
00:31:57.140 Dr. Eastman, you were in Lansing, Michigan.
00:32:00.400 I thought it was going to be a small talk at a church, but it ended up you had to go over to a huge ballroom.
00:32:06.160 Why was that?
00:32:06.600 What was your talk about, sir?
00:32:08.340 Well, election integrity and lawfare.
00:32:10.680 The two greatest threats to our continuing vitality as a self-governing republic, and I thought it was important for folks to hear what we knew in 2020 and the consequences of trying to highlight what we knew in 2020, because this is a threat to the rule of law.
00:32:28.360 It's a threat to all of us.
00:32:29.320 It's a threat to the consent of the governed.
00:32:31.560 And I sent a note.
00:32:32.740 I was going to be in town for a college graduation.
00:32:35.640 My daughter earned a master's degree down at Hillsdale, and I was going to be in town.
00:32:39.360 So I sent a note to a few friends of mine in Lansing saying, I'm here if you want to organize something with a few people, I'm happy to chat with folks.
00:32:46.440 And next thing I know, there are a couple hundred people signed up for the thing.
00:32:49.260 So it was a terrific response.
00:32:52.540 People are anxious to learn about all the details of what went on in 2020, and particularly this lawfare attacks on me, on Rudy, on President Trump, on anybody that dared try and expose what was going on.
00:33:07.920 And people were enthusiastic and asked what they could do to help.
00:33:12.900 So it was heartwarming.
00:33:15.420 I drew a lot of energy from the room as a result.
00:33:20.200 Rudy got bounced from WABC, the number one.
00:33:23.000 He had the number one rated show on both afternoon at 3 o'clock in New York City and Sunday morning for talking about the 2020 election.
00:33:30.360 What's the summary?
00:33:31.840 Just to summarize for what you told the folks in Lansing about 2020, because now the media is melting down that we're saying, hey, we ain't going to accept the 2024 election until we see how it's run, until we see how it's certified, until we get the receipts and we get the details.
00:33:47.260 And they're in full meltdown right now because, you know, they're plotting to steal this thing.
00:33:51.540 That's what they want.
00:33:52.160 They want an open guarantee up front.
00:33:54.280 Oh, yeah, we'll do it.
00:33:55.580 Whatever the results are going to be, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:33:58.940 This is we're going to pick this thing over a thousand times more closely than than 2020.
00:34:06.780 What were your words to the folks in Lansing about 2020?
00:34:11.200 Well, I reminded them that the legislature has plenary power to set the rules.
00:34:14.900 They did that and state election officials in each of the key states ignored or altered those rules on their own.
00:34:22.160 That was unconstitutional.
00:34:24.220 Eliminated signature verification.
00:34:26.460 They eliminated witness verification in Wisconsin.
00:34:28.840 They eliminated the bipartisan teams going into nursing homes.
00:34:31.960 They created drop boxes and human drop boxes where the law did not allow them.
00:34:36.280 And all of these things had a greater effect on the outcome of the election in each of those swing states than the margin of victory that was declared for President Biden.
00:34:47.260 And and so and then anybody that then the second piece of it was anybody that raised those questions is now being persecuted with criminal prosecutions, with bar disciplinary proceedings designed to silence anybody that would say such things for the next election.
00:35:03.160 And they don't they don't hide that.
00:35:04.840 They're brazen about it.
00:35:06.040 One of the co-founders of the 65 projects that our goal is not just to get all these lawyers disbarred, but to make them so toxic in their firms and the communities that they won't ever take on these kind of election challenges again.
00:35:18.160 In other words, they want a free path to be able to steal the next election as well.
00:35:22.180 And nobody dare raise an objection about it.
00:35:25.420 And that's why people like me, people like Rudy and others are standing up so strongly to push back against this, because if we lose this fight, we cease to be a self-governing free people.
00:35:34.840 And we become subjects of an increasingly tyrannical government.
00:35:38.400 This is the fight for our time.
00:35:40.900 And it's comparable to the fight our grandfathers fought in World War I and World War II or our founders fought against a tyrannical, increasingly tyrannical government from Great Britain.
00:35:51.940 And, you know, true patriots will be standing up and trying to fight about this.
00:35:57.820 Rudy, your thoughts, sir?
00:35:59.480 Well, I think the professor, as usual, has put my situation in great, great context, much greater than I have or any of my words.
00:36:11.800 The reality is I was being told that there was a policy at ABC broadly that you could not, I'm quoting now, you could not discuss or have conversations about the 2020 election on WABC or as an agent of WABC, which might include right now.
00:36:32.720 So what the professor just said, I could not put on WABC or WABC would not cover.
00:36:42.000 A lot of it happened because in the last two weeks, you know, Georgia had a revelation that these are coming out all the time, so it's impossible to cover them.
00:36:50.260 But they found 3,500 votes, absolutely multiple counted, and they are missing 275,000 ballots.
00:36:59.840 We don't have them anymore.
00:37:02.060 Well, I mean, whatever the calculation for the outcome of the election, this is what we call an American news.
00:37:09.120 That would be suppressed on WABC, and they would want me to do it.
00:37:13.040 And they first brought that to my attention on Thursday, and I told them, as you know how delicate I am and gentle, I told them in a very nice way I wouldn't do it.
00:37:23.880 And the end result is they fired me, they fired Dr. Ryan, they took my, they fired us, and I began, without missing a beat, yesterday morning, 10 o'clock, Uncovering the Truth, Dr. Ryan and I, with probably one of the biggest audiences we ever had.
00:37:44.940 And we told the story of what happened in Georgia, because it's all being done for the purpose that the professor so brilliantly pointed out.
00:37:56.020 This isn't just, this is being done now because we're getting close to 2024.
00:38:00.600 And if you can shut us up, myself, Eastman, you, whatever, about 2020, much better chance of stealing 2024.
00:38:09.360 Okay, this is the key.
00:38:10.840 Hang on, hang on.
00:38:11.580 This is the key.
00:38:12.220 This is why they're putting all the pressure in now.
00:38:13.880 They understand they're losing, they understand they couldn't stop Trump, they understand that the way this regime has helped destroy the country, the economy, our sovereignty, the border, you know, our national security across the board, people are rising up against this.
00:38:27.400 They understand they have to steal 2024.
00:38:31.580 So what they want to do first is shut up everybody about 2020.
00:38:35.760 Professor Eastman, Dr. Eastman, I just want to go back to how you closed that, about Project 65, all of this.
00:38:42.740 They're trying to make any discussion of 2020 so toxic that you're immediately deplatformed, you're fired, you're disbarred, because they understand if you shut that down and terrify people about that, you won't have the fighters at the cutting edge to say, no, you're not going to steal 2024.
00:39:01.460 Dr. Eastman, your thoughts?
00:39:03.300 Yeah, my thoughts.
00:39:04.140 And first, I think it's important to clarify, Rudy and I are not talking about anything substantive with each other about the 2020 election.
00:39:11.260 That would put us in trouble with a court order down in Georgia.
00:39:14.780 We are talking about the ramifications of shutting people up and clearing the path for election theft in 2024 without anybody being willing to stand up to challenge it.
00:39:25.680 That's what the 65 project is all about.
00:39:28.320 That's what States United Democracy Center is all about in filing these bar disciplinary proceedings against people.
00:39:34.300 It's what the use of the terminology, election denier, that's an old Nazi-era phrase, you know, a Holocaust denier.
00:39:43.900 They're trying to attribute that.
00:39:45.560 The big lie, that phrase, that Trump engaged in the big lie, that itself is the big lie.
00:39:50.780 And they're using these tools, these rhetorical tools, these propaganda tools to try and silence people into submission to accept whatever comes down the pike.
00:40:03.180 And that's not something that a free people should be willing to tolerate.
00:40:07.760 And increasingly, I'm seeing across the country people standing up.
00:40:12.740 You know, I was invited to give a little speech out in Palm Springs.
00:40:15.460 I thought it would be 30, 40 people.
00:40:17.660 They had to rent out the Palm Springs Convention Center.
00:40:20.040 People are angry about what they're seeing and looking for direction on what they can do about it.
00:40:26.280 And that's why it's important to shine the light on election illegality.
00:40:29.900 Whenever you see it, people need to get involved at their local level.
00:40:35.680 They can become not just poll observers, but they can become poll workers.
00:40:39.500 They can, right now, begin reviewing the polling books.
00:40:43.040 If you've got 28 people registered in an efficiency apartment and you know that 28 people aren't living in that little one room thing, raise objections.
00:40:53.100 Get those things cleaned up now so that there's less opportunity for deadwood fraud on the ballot rolls.
00:41:00.400 But people need to take this matter seriously or we're going to lose something precious that we inherited.
00:41:06.820 And that is freedom and the right to have free and fair elections.
00:41:12.360 Dr. Eusman, before you bounce, I just want to go back.
00:41:15.540 You're seeing, like we're seeing, an increasing interest in this, particularly people that may be not engaged, whether it's in Lansing or Palm Springs or throughout the country.
00:41:24.720 People that were not that engaged the first time around understand something's very wrong with the country and they want to know more about 2020 so it doesn't happen again in 2024.
00:41:34.360 Is that what you're finding?
00:41:35.820 That's what I'm finding everywhere.
00:41:37.140 Every precinct in every county in the country, not just in the swing states, although, you know, particularly energized efforts in the swing states.
00:41:45.180 Dr. Eusman, how do people follow more of what you're going through?
00:41:51.380 How do they find out more if they want to participate or want to help or even just push out information?
00:41:56.580 Where do they go?
00:41:57.900 So the best place is my Legal Defense Fund site, givesendgo.com slash eastman.
00:42:04.120 They can donate to help us stay in the fight.
00:42:06.140 They can send prayers.
00:42:07.300 My wife and I read them.
00:42:08.260 They're heartwarming.
00:42:08.840 But we also use that as a blog where we post articles, links to articles that are particularly well done in describing what we're dealing with.
00:42:20.120 Giveendgo.com slash eastman.
00:42:22.880 If people want to reach out to you to come to their community and talk, where do they go?
00:42:27.840 You know, they could send me a message via that link or they could send me a Twitter message, Dr. John Eastman.
00:42:36.620 OK, Dr. Eastman, hang in there.
00:42:40.540 You're one of the toughest, smartest guys I know.
00:42:42.380 I know you're not going to back down.
00:42:43.500 You're one of the key drivers in to make sure that we get a fair, free and certifiable election in 2024 with a massive Trump win.
00:42:50.860 So, sir, thank you very much.
00:42:52.060 Appreciate it.
00:42:56.180 Here's the power of this is that this is all coming from you.
00:42:58.980 All the corporate media, everything was aligned against us.
00:43:02.260 OK, and now people are waking up.
00:43:05.020 Why?
00:43:05.420 Because you're relentless as a force multiplier.
00:43:08.940 You're relentless as a patriot.
00:43:11.060 You're up in people's grills.
00:43:12.740 You're showing them the receipts.
00:43:14.620 You're giving them information, information they don't get anywhere else.
00:43:17.560 And you know what?
00:43:18.300 It's having a massive, massive, massive impact.
00:43:22.180 It's one of the reasons that we push out so much of what President Trump says, particularly in the speeches he gives at the at these rallies.
00:43:28.900 And it's working.
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00:45:10.020 Okay, let me reiterate, make sure everybody can hear me loud and clear.
00:45:18.760 Trump's comeback, this comeback that they never expected, that's where they're in panic mode now
00:45:23.840 because they thought they had everything with the democracy.
00:45:25.900 Remember Biden's speeches, these guys are going to end democracy, the lawfare, the 88 charges,
00:45:31.260 the putting him in prison and all this.
00:45:33.580 They thought they had so many firewalls that they'd never have to get with six months to go.
00:45:39.160 And I think four and a half months until ballots drop, I think it's in North Carolina,
00:45:44.340 a couple other places for early voting.
00:45:46.600 They never in a million years thought they'd be here.
00:45:48.640 That's why you see the long faces of Fareed Saqqara.
00:45:50.820 That's why you see the panic in Morning Mika.
00:45:53.620 And for Joe Scarborough, Joe Scarborough's talking about somebody's masculinity.
00:45:58.060 He's sitting there, he's run by Mika every morning.
00:46:00.580 It's the Morning Mika show and they got to rename it.
00:46:02.520 He's just the side piece.
00:46:04.060 He's sitting there talking about Josh Hawley and other people and the Republicans' masculinity.
00:46:10.580 What?
00:46:11.120 What?
00:46:12.700 Dude, look in the mirror, goofball.
00:46:16.380 Unbelievable.
00:46:16.900 You see right now that Trump's, the predicate, the underlying foundation of the energy and the urgency
00:46:26.880 that led to the greatest comeback in American political history to now have their backs up
00:46:32.420 and they're thinking through, hey, we got to steal this thing again.
00:46:34.640 So let's say, are you going to accept the election?
00:46:36.560 No.
00:46:37.160 We're going to accept what's certifiable.
00:46:38.860 We're going to accept a free and fair election that we certify and make sure we sign off on it.
00:46:44.720 You've already stolen one.
00:46:46.400 You actually stole two.
00:46:47.440 You stole the first one, too.
00:46:49.200 His presidency by the phony, all the phony nullification project with all the phony stuff on Russia
00:46:58.200 and what the deep state did.
00:47:01.140 You then outright stole the second one.
00:47:03.060 And the American people know it.
00:47:04.680 We have no platform.
00:47:06.640 We're tiny.
00:47:08.360 All these podcasts are tiny.
00:47:10.120 They have the vast, unbelievable corporate resources of the multinational corporations.
00:47:17.920 And they treat you like idiots when they talk to you.
00:47:20.640 You can't even question it.
00:47:22.660 You were debanked, deplatformed, cut off everywhere.
00:47:26.460 This show was cut off every, virtually 95% of platforms.
00:47:33.080 And guess what?
00:47:33.600 We're bigger than ever.
00:47:34.460 How was that?
00:47:35.280 Because of you.
00:47:36.140 You knew the truth, you got access to the truth, and you've spread the truth, and now
00:47:41.620 their backs are to the wall.
00:47:43.660 And there is nothing they won't do in order to keep Trump from taking the White House again,
00:47:49.380 including potential assassination.
00:47:51.640 It's one of the reasons I hope and pray, and I'm quite vocal about his security.
00:47:56.860 He's got to be at the maximum, maximum, maximum level.
00:47:59.440 Because there's nothing else they can do to stop him and to stop this movement.
00:48:05.260 100,000 people on a Saturday.
00:48:07.480 Are you kidding me?
00:48:09.180 Joe Biden won't have that in this entire election campaign.
00:48:11.860 They had something in South Carolina the other day.
00:48:13.820 It's like 75 people, 100 people, and a third of the seats are empty.
00:48:18.400 You never hear them talk about the 81 million because they didn't get the 81 million.
00:48:22.260 They don't exist.
00:48:23.420 And they know that.
00:48:25.160 And they know that.
00:48:26.200 Rudy Giuliani, you have been, they've come after you and Eastman.
00:48:31.460 Here's where they've come after Rudy.
00:48:33.280 Rudy had Donald John Trump's back from the beginning on the steal and the country's back.
00:48:38.980 Rudy was the very first guy to step into the fire.
00:48:42.240 They know they have to take Rudy out.
00:48:44.420 They have to take Rudy out.
00:48:46.040 And guess what?
00:48:47.120 Rudy Giuliani is now, he's still standing.
00:48:49.580 He's a bigger presence in American history than he's ever been.
00:48:52.920 Bigger than 9-11, bigger than when he put the mafia in jail, bigger when he put Milken in jail, bigger than the great run he has as mayor or when he ran for president.
00:49:02.360 You're bigger than you've ever been.
00:49:04.100 You're truly now a historic figure, brother.
00:49:06.940 And tell me what, how did WABC reward you, particularly in the run-up in the last four and a half months, to sit there and say you can't mention the 2020 election?
00:49:16.700 And Katsimatidis and WABC, screw you.
00:49:20.700 Nobody should listen to WABC until they reverse that.
00:49:23.900 Rudy Giuliani, you're too much of a gentleman to say that, Rudy.
00:49:26.280 I'm not.
00:49:27.480 Brother, tell me about your fight with WABC.
00:49:30.640 First of all, I should make it clear that WABC is screwing America.
00:49:35.400 WABC, according to the letter written to me last week, first time I was notified about it,
00:49:41.600 I've been commenting on the 2020 election almost every day since the day it happened on WABC.
00:49:48.380 There are probably thousands of hours of my comment without objection.
00:49:53.040 All of a sudden, I get a letter on Thursday of last week, an hour before my show, saying,
00:49:57.360 according to the policy of WABC, you're going to have no conversations about the 2020 election on WABC or as an agent of WABC.
00:50:08.000 No comment, no conversations.
00:50:10.080 It then gave three minor examples and then said, but with further, with much more, many more limitations without telling me what they were.
00:50:21.240 So I had a story that day involving cheating in Georgia.
00:50:27.340 New, new evidence.
00:50:28.460 Not going back to 2020.
00:50:30.000 New evidence of 275,000 ballots missing, 3,500 ballots triple and quadruple counted.
00:50:42.500 I have documented evidence of doctored tapes done by some of the people involved there, and I'm in the middle of a big appeal on this.
00:50:54.400 So I was going to bring it out, both because the American people are entitled to know this, and to my own good, as well as everyone else's.
00:51:03.600 I get the letter, it says I can't discuss the election at all.
00:51:08.400 It's a shock to me, since I've never been told this before.
00:51:12.420 And then I'm told that I have been informed of this four other times, that Dr. Ryan and Ted Goodman, my associates, have been informed of it.
00:51:21.720 We are informed of nothing like this.
00:51:23.760 And not only that, had I been informed of it, I'd have walked out in a minute.
00:51:29.840 I'm not going to go work with anyone at any time, anywhere, that prohibits me from talking about maybe one of the most central issues to our democracy.
00:51:39.240 What happened in 2020?
00:51:41.080 For the simple reason that you can't fix 2024 unless you talk about 2020.
00:51:45.440 And I believe that this is being done now, as opposed to six months ago when I was talking about it, because they realize that if we can rerun many of the things done in 2020, it will inhibit their cheating in 2024.
00:52:02.080 And I think they recognize they can't win now without cheating.
00:52:05.740 They have got to cheat.
00:52:06.880 So I think Dominion, that has an unholy relationship with the head of WABC, the CEO, John Castamitides, John Poulos, and John Castamitides.
00:52:18.400 But hang on, but hang on, but hang on, but hang on.
00:52:20.460 This is not a big, hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:52:23.180 You just heard that from Eastman, which I believe, he didn't say anything about machines.
00:52:28.340 This election, I don't believe, I've been adamant about this, I don't think it was stolen by machines.
00:52:33.500 They didn't need machines.
00:52:34.580 It was stolen by the mail-in ballots.
00:52:37.180 You saw across the country how they did the mail-in ballots and the phony voter rolls.
00:52:41.440 It's the phony voter rolls coupled with the mail-in ballots that give them every opportunity.
00:52:46.680 The machines, maybe, I don't know.
00:52:48.420 It hasn't been, I haven't bought in.
00:52:50.740 I'm not a machine guy.
00:52:51.800 Hang on one second.
00:52:52.500 Let's just take a break.
00:52:55.720 You're here in War Room.
00:52:57.660 We're going out with Nicole McGrady.
00:52:59.200 Rudy's going to be on the other side.
00:53:01.620 Mike Lindell is going to join us.
00:53:03.120 Ben Harnwell.
00:53:03.920 Much more.
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