Rachel Chumash joins us to discuss the rise of the far-right in American politics, and the potential for a far-Right comeback in the 2020 election. She also talks about why she thinks the far right is a dangerous political force to be reckoned with, and why we should be worried about it.
00:05:46.580I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:05:52.480Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:05:56.180If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:06:02.400It's Tuesday 11th June in the year of our Lord, 2024.
00:06:15.200And yes, the aftershocks have finally gotten to the mainstream media.
00:06:19.180What we reported on through the weekend, Sunday up on Getter and then all day yesterday, to keep the war room posse always ahead of the curve.
00:06:29.000It's been an earthquake, tectonic plate shift in Europe and particularly the two biggest countries.
00:06:35.780Of course, Italy, although we may not love everything Georgia Maloney is doing.
00:06:44.180It's happening through the rest of Europe.
00:06:45.940But man, when Germany and France, and that's really the EU is Germany and France.
00:06:52.020When they have what the performance of Alternative for Deutschland and what happened with the Green Party crushed in Germany.
00:07:00.500And you've had the dissolution of parliament by Macron.
00:07:04.360And now he's getting a ton of grief from his allies in the center and the center left.
00:07:10.040Even some of the center right saying that this is a role and I call it a role of the iron dice.
00:07:16.720A real gamble, as Raheem brought up yesterday.
00:07:19.020We're going to get into all that, much more on the FBI, DOJ, a big op-ed by Garland that says the unjustified announcements against DOJ and the FBI, the unfounded accusations have to stop.
00:07:36.840They're hurting the FBI and hurting the Justice Department.
00:07:39.560Okay, I tell you what, Attorney General Garland, we'll make a deal.
00:07:43.780We will stop with all the unfounded and we'll just focus on the founded because that's all we've been focusing on.
00:07:50.020We don't do unfounded here in the war room.
00:07:53.120And that's what you should be worried about as the House gets ready to vote contempt charges on Merrick Garland.
00:08:00.060A lot more going on, but I want to bring in John Solomon's wingman, Steve Richards, over at Just the News.
00:08:05.140Kind of a blockbuster story pops up on your site, on the John Solomon site, late yesterday afternoon, early evening.
00:08:14.880Steve Richards, explain to me, is there a litmus test?
00:08:18.080Is the FBI blocking in its recruiting and hiring people that are MAGA or people that have any social media or anything to do with President Trump or support American citizens in good standing who are Trump supporters, sir?
00:09:12.360But he took vacation days to go to the January 6, 2021 rally at the White House because he had the personal political opinion that there were irregularities in the election.
00:09:25.140And he informed his superiors that he was going, and they didn't do anything about it for a year.
00:09:31.420And then as the hysteria in the FBI built up over the January 6 events, they came after him and eventually, after these interviews, revoked his security clearance.
00:09:48.080They had a guy, an FBI agent in good standing.
00:09:52.360He notified his supervisors, hey, I'm going to go over to the ellipse.
00:09:55.420I'm going to go over to hear the president speak on January 6 at the two- or three-hour series of speeches.
00:10:00.900And then later, a year later, they called him in, and what they wanted to drill down on his affinity for or support for Trump, questions about the vax, the COVID-19 vax, and the Second Amendment.
00:10:26.600And if you look at the documents that we published with our article, my colleague John Solomon, the agents who are interviewing this FBI employee indicated that he was – that other witnesses said that he was a gun nut, quote-unquote, and that he supported Trump's belief that the election was stolen.
00:10:48.980And so they were using these political beliefs, which are normally protected under the Bill of Rights for a federal employee to hold.
00:10:57.140They were using these political beliefs to determine whether or not he was allowed to possess a security clearance.
00:11:05.780So they actually brought up election – the 2020 election, which is the heart of it all.
00:11:14.900I mean, if you don't have a security clearance, I don't even know how you go in the building and get in the elevator bank at the FBI.
00:11:20.800I don't know anything – I couldn't even imagine a low-level administrative job that you wouldn't have at least have a confidential clearance.
00:11:28.620So what has happened to this individual?
00:11:31.800So much like some of the other FBI whistleblowers, like Marcus Allen, who have recently come forward,
00:11:37.600this whistleblower, though he has chosen to remain anonymous, has filed a complaint with the Office of Inspector General at the FBI,
00:11:46.540and he's being represented by Empower Oversight, the group that has also represented the IRS whistleblowers in the Hunter Biden investigation
00:16:26.360In recent weeks, we have seen an escalation of attacks that go far beyond public scrutiny, criticism, and legitimate and necessary oversight of our work.
00:16:36.100These attacks come in the form of threats to defund particular department investigations.
00:16:43.720Most recently, the special counsel's prosecution of the former president.
00:16:48.080They come in the form of dangerous falsehoods about the FBI's law enforcement operations.
00:16:54.080They come in the form of false claims that the department is politicizing its work to somehow influence the outcome of an election.
00:17:01.620The Justice Department makes decisions about criminal investigations based only on the facts and the law.
00:17:11.080We do not investigate people because of their last name, their political affiliation, the size of their bank account, where they come from, or what they look like.
00:17:21.640Disagreements about politics are good for our democracy.
00:19:14.440Well, I'm old enough to remember, and good morning, old enough to remember when, you know, unfounded attacks on American institutions were, you know, democracy, right?
00:19:31.400And every day they set about attacking the office of the president, attacking the DOJ, attacking the State Department.
00:19:39.660You still see it today, attacking the Supreme Court, all this stuff.
00:19:43.520You know, secret recordings of Supreme Court justices and their families wondering what flags they're running up the flagpole this week.
00:19:51.900Completely and utterly undermining American institutions time and time again.
00:19:55.400But, but, when a Democrat is running one of those institutions, like in this case, the DOJ, suddenly scrutiny becomes an attack itself.
00:20:05.320The idea that Merrick Garland needs to go out there and run PR interference personally for his own department tells you something very serious is up.
00:20:17.400Tells you that there is discord and disquiet within the institution.
00:20:21.420Otherwise, you don't go out there and start making public pronouncements and start trying to hold the ship together.
00:20:25.900This is not just about him trying to shore up his own position, trying to deflect from, you know, what is extremely, not just, not just legitimate scrutiny, by the way, needed scrutiny.
00:21:07.380Chris Christie's the one that recommended him and pushed him so hard.
00:21:10.380And we attacked the FBI relentlessly because it's turned into the American Gestapo, first under Comey and McCabe, but certainly has continued under Chris Wray.
00:21:22.880I'm, I'm, I do not discriminate against who I, who I take shots at.
00:21:28.060If I think something is being run poorly, run badly, whether it's, whether it's the Speaker of the House, whether it's any campaign, whether it's any, you know, I'm sure you've been on the receiving end of my complaints enough times as well.
00:21:40.380But, but the situation isn't the same on the other side.
00:21:42.940And of course they play, they play differently.
00:21:45.000And in fact, you know, they play for keeps.
00:21:46.740I was just this morning speaking to somebody about this and speaking about, you know, all the lawfare that's going on at the moment, everything, you know, the contempt charges against Merrick Garland, where he should, you know, there frankly should have already been the, the sergeant at arms dispatched to haul him before Congress and make him, make him accountable for his actions.
00:22:06.880There should have already been a complete and total negation and a scrubbing of the J6 committee and its, and its reports to law enforcement and so on and so forth.
00:22:47.040In terms of, if he is president, using the levers of the Justice Department, the FBI to go after political opponents in a second term, how would that, how would he go about that?
00:22:57.380I mean, how, how, how feasible is that?
00:23:03.360I mean, you know, the, it's, it's interesting to me that across those interviews, interviews with people who are like Dr. Phil and others who are trying to kind of get him to walk away from those claims, he soft pedals it a little bit.
00:23:15.880But then he gets out in front of the, in front of the rally crowds and really hits it home.
00:23:21.800He said it many times in front of many different people.
00:23:24.460He intends to take the levers of power if he is reelected and use them for his own personal retribution goals, which in and of itself is so unbelievably offensive.
00:23:36.740It should be to any American that any American president would purport to do such a thing.
00:23:45.500If he follows through with the plan that he's already laid out, this 2025 plan that they've talked about, he'll replace those folks in significant positions, the Department of Justice and the FBI and other law and federal law enforcement entities with flunkies who will do whatever he says.
00:24:03.380So the first steps in this process of trumping up charges against people baselessly and throwing them in jail could actually happen.
00:24:13.380I think it gets tougher when those cases start to make their way through the courts, you know, but that takes a long time.
00:24:20.540And so I think it's reasonable that people who think they might be, you know, on the former president's enemies list start thinking about what does that look like?
00:24:32.100What could that, you know, how could that actually play out in your lives?
00:24:36.380And I think people are having those conversations to try to figure those things out as we speak.
00:24:40.400You better have a lot of conversations because what's going to happen is going to be painting between the lines using the Constitution law.
00:24:50.560And by the way, McCabe, the president-elect will have full authority to appoint 3,000 people.
00:24:56.640Well, that's where the briefing's going.
00:24:57.600And I want everybody to remember, 3,000 people are political appointees.
00:25:01.040Another 1,000 have to be confirmed by the Senate.
00:25:04.100But there are 8 million contractors, 8 million contractors.
00:25:09.120And a ton of those, millions are in executive positions.
00:25:12.700So my whole thing is let's cancel the contracts and let's staff up with MAGA.
00:25:39.260And both of them, both of these institutions together either need abolishing in the case of the FBI or fundamental reform in terms of the DOJ.
00:25:50.000And the other point I'd make on this is that it's not so much the law.
00:25:56.020And this is where I might differ a lot, I think, with MAGA on this.
00:26:00.100The political prosecution of Donald Trump, what gets me here fundamentally isn't so much the law or the stacked trial in New York.
00:26:09.640It's the disequal application of the law.
00:26:12.900That is, I think, the fundamental thing here, you know, how it is that certain people are going to be sent to prison for, in their words, not cooperating with a congressional subpoena.
00:26:25.880And yet sort of 20 years ago, Eric Holder, no, excuse me, 2012, Eric Holder wasn't.
00:26:31.640That was a vote, by the way, in Congress that was bipartisan.
00:26:35.360We had Democrats voting for contempt of Congress there.
00:26:39.300The DOJ did nothing in his case, who was vice president back in 2012.
00:26:47.160So it's just the hypocrisy of the regime.
00:26:49.660I think that really, really gets under people's skin.
00:26:53.120And that is what I – the anger behind that, I think, is what's going to drive fundamental, necessary reform in the next coming Trump mandate.
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00:29:34.600Publicans in Congress just voted that we should leave our allies altogether, that we should break up the Big Western Alliance, that we should defund NATO.
00:29:43.780And I think nobody really paid attention to this vote because this legislation was put forward by a very fringe member of Congress, a member of Congress who is known for her publicity stunts.
00:29:55.080And she is therefore eager to, eager, sorry.
00:30:56.040Rachel's never accomplished anything real in her entire life.
00:30:59.440She's only lied on television for a living.
00:31:02.440You know, I've run a company, a construction company, most of my adult life before I came into Congress, Steve.
00:31:09.100I know what it's like to be an American and a business owner, working hard every single day.
00:31:14.940And Americans are fed up with funding and paying for the defense of other countries.
00:31:20.980While our country is overrun and our border is ripped wide open, and we have people, millions and millions of people from over 160 countries around the world coming in, taking our jobs, sleeping on our streets, taking over our schools, taking over hotels, taking over our cities, and getting in our police officers' spaces, committing crimes, and murdering Americans.
00:32:06.080And that's something that Rachel Maddow has no understanding and doesn't even know what it's about.
00:32:10.940We just have a report out of the Daily Telegraph from London that the United States has approved funds that has been voted by the House and the Senate, part of that $61 billion, to the Azov Brigade, which is, you know, a neo-Nazi or from Nazi origins.
00:32:28.220Rahim and Ben Harnwell from Rome, we're going to get into this in a moment as soon as you bounce.
00:32:34.500Didn't you ask to make sure the money wasn't stolen, to make sure Zelensky and his buddies weren't put in the pocket, which I understand is like 10% right off the top?
00:32:42.900But do you approve, or the other Republicans approve of the money after you asked for forensic audits, money going to a Nazi battalion fighting under the control of Zelensky and his generals?
00:33:05.220And as a matter of fact, this week is an extremely important week to talk about Ukraine.
00:33:09.240We'll be doing the National Defense Authorization Act this week in Congress.
00:33:13.940Once again, I will be introducing my amendment that no money should fund the Ukraine war coming from our own military funding.
00:33:22.100The NDAA is such an incredibly important bill.
00:33:25.680It's the funding of the Department of Defense.
00:33:27.880And the Department of Defense mission is to protect national security interests of the United States and to protect Americans.
00:33:37.320Funding a war in Ukraine does the exact opposite of that.
00:33:40.620It puts us at threat of entering World War III as the Biden administration has authorized the use of military weapons to be fired into the interior of Russia.
00:33:50.700And in the same time, Steve, while they're funding the Azov Battalion, which are Nazis, they don't want to talk about any sort of peace plan for Ukraine, which goes completely against any idea of supporting Ukraine.
00:34:06.520If you support Ukraine, you support peace for Ukraine and the Ukrainian people.
00:34:10.560You don't support making sure that you fund a war where they keep getting murdered on the battlefield and you're wiping out an entire generation of young men.
00:34:19.660But it's even more dangerous, Steve, as we're funding, as the United States is continuing to fund the Ukraine war, as they're funding Nazis while they're calling President Trump Hitler and accusing us of being Nazis.
00:34:31.460They're funding Nazis with our own hard-earned tax dollars.
00:34:35.820The scarier part, Steve, is BRICS just recently or is about to hold a peace summit that the United States won't even be a part of.
00:34:44.760We won't even take part in this massive conglomerate of countries all around the world that are going to stop using the dollar for their currency in their trade with one another.
00:34:56.740They're going to completely destabilize our economy, tank our dollar to levels that none of us could ever think was possible.
00:35:05.120And this is all happening while America is filled with bloodlust and murder to continue this war in Ukraine.
00:35:13.280We're really looking at dangerous times for the United States.
00:35:17.880Bringing a point you bring up about the BRICS, because the Swiss peace conference LUNC is going to have is going to go nowhere.
00:35:23.120That Global South peace conference is really going to make things, really going to get to a peace deal, I think.
00:35:29.100Why does she call you, why does Rachel Maddow call you a fringe member?
00:35:50.780When over half of the majority of the majority, over half of Republicans voted with me to stop funding Ukraine, to stop funding Ukraine and our NDAA last year.
00:36:02.980And by the way, Mike Johnson was one of them.
00:36:05.240He was one of the Republicans that voted for my amendment.
00:36:52.840Is it unfounded criticism that you and Matt Gaetz and your other colleagues are bringing up about the Justice Department and the FBI, ma'am?
00:37:02.900As a matter of fact, you know, I introduced articles of impeachment against Merrick Garland.
00:37:09.200And I wish that my Republican colleagues had the guts to impeach him because that man should be impeached.
00:37:15.320She's led the Department of Justice and politically weaponized it against President Trump, against conservatives, against parents, against pro-life protesters, and against anyone that protested the election on January 6th.
00:37:30.020And the FBI has been the lackey of this politically weaponized Department of Justice.
00:37:35.480I'll tell you something, Steve, right now.
00:37:37.620It's not unfounded, but here's what we should do with the Department of Justice and the FBI.
00:37:43.700We need to rip both those departments apart.
00:37:46.480We need to break them down and systematically rebuild them.
00:37:50.320We have to remove all the people, the resistance people that were planted there back when Obama was president.
00:37:56.780And we have to pull out all these people that are completely, completely against America.
00:38:04.820And they are there for a weaponized authoritarian justice system.
00:38:10.140And that's the most terrifying thing to most Americans today.
00:38:13.300They cannot believe this has actually happened.
00:38:16.220And I think my Republican colleagues need to get tougher.
00:38:19.640I'm tired of being one of the few in Washington that's calling for this.
00:38:23.640The Republican Party needs to wake up and see exactly what's happening, not only to thousands of people from January 6th, but to people like you, Steve, and Peter Navarro.
00:39:57.320Not bad for a gal that just had her 50th birthday, by the way.
00:40:01.100The president's going to be in town this week.
00:40:03.220And the breaking news is he's going to meet with the GOP House.
00:40:06.060Sound like the conference on Thursday.
00:40:08.200What are you going to say in front of the president when you see him on Thursday, ma'am?
00:40:13.020Well, you know, I'm always honored to stand with President Trump.
00:40:17.680I'm one of the few that will go out there and meet him where it's inconvenient, difficult, and over 100 degrees.
00:40:25.400A lot of people like to show up in front of cameras or in the air conditioning.
00:40:29.380But I'll fight by President Trump's side anywhere.
00:40:32.740I'm looking forward to him coming to Washington.
00:40:34.880I've asked him to come meet with Congress, with Republicans in Congress, for a very long time.
00:40:41.320And I'm very happy to see that it's finally happening.
00:40:44.240It's time for Republicans in Congress to face him face-to-face and treat him like the leader of the party that the American people recognize him to be.
00:40:54.820I'm tired of Republicans in Washington always being the last ones to show up to support President Trump.
00:41:01.640It's time for them to be the first ones to show up to support President Trump.
00:41:05.900I'm also excited for President Trump to speak at the NRSB.
00:41:10.120I'm looking forward to him talking to Senate Republicans.
00:41:13.080And those are some of the Republicans that seriously need to come around.
00:41:16.600They need to bend the knee and realize that President Trump's policies are the policies that Republican voters want across the country and not the moderate uniparty policies that they have been promoting and voting for in Washington for a very long time.
00:41:33.420Congressman Greene, if we don't win the great state of Georgia, the peach state, President Trump will not be the president.
00:41:45.580I am very concerned about my home state of Georgia.
00:41:49.660Steve, thank you for bringing that up.
00:41:51.140You know, there's a lot of great people here in our state that have been fighting ever since 2020, doing everything they can to uncover the fraud that happened here.
00:42:00.780And there's been a lot of great work that has proven it.
00:42:04.020And we have serious, I still do not trust Fulton County, even though we've changed our election laws.
00:42:29.500And we are Republican through and through.
00:42:31.980But the Democrats have Georgia as their top target.
00:42:35.780And the evidence of that is Joe Biden picked Georgia to be the first location of the presidential debate that's coming up later this month.
00:42:45.140That is a signal that should be heard around the world that should be heard, especially in every acre of the state of Georgia.
00:42:52.160Because the Democrats are going to target Georgia, not only in this presidential election, Steve, but in the next governor's race.