Steve and Ben are joined by journalist Ben Harnwell to discuss the rise of the far-right in America and the possibility of a far-Right comeback in Europe. They also discuss Naomi Klein and her new book, The War Room.
00:24:51.620Major Chudoff, IDF, I think you're reserve and retired.
00:24:55.960But, sir, is it being reported in Israel on media, the violence?
00:25:01.440And before I talk about the defense of the north of Israel, are they getting the real facts of what's happening in the United States with these riots?
00:25:10.080And that's what it was on Saturday are things I've never seen before.
00:25:32.420Remember that the demonstrations against Israel started already on October 8th.
00:25:40.940In other words, today it's Rafa is the subject of the day, but the support for Hamas for their murder, kidnapping, rape, body snatching already began the day after it happened, long before Israel even thought of a response, let alone put it into action.
00:26:23.260We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:26:24.440We're going to talk about the defense and where the war is going, not just in Gaza or in Judea Samaria against the Muslim Brotherhood franchisee Hamas, but I think where the real fight is with the Persian militias.
00:26:43.560We'll be back in the war room in just a moment.
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00:33:31.960And remember, Ayatollah Khomeini was the guy who said that Israel was the little Satan and America is the great Satan.
00:33:41.500And when he was talking about little and great, he wasn't speaking in geographical terms.
00:33:45.260He was speaking in his theological terms.
00:33:47.740America is the great evil in the world as far as the Khomeiniists are concerned, and that's the Iran of today.
00:33:53.100Hezbollah is orders of magnitude, better equipped, better trained, better organized, and better backed by Iran than Hamas is.
00:34:06.800In other words, what we've seen over the past seven months, eight months in Gaza is a very, very small fraction of what we're actually facing with Hezbollah in the north.
00:34:20.280Now, since October 7th and since this war broke out.
00:34:27.180This is what I want people to understand.
00:34:29.260The Muslim Brotherhood franchisee of Hamas, and it has got Persian money too, they're a terrorist organization within a group, and they fight.
00:34:37.020Hezbollah, the Persians up and the Persian back guys up in the north, they're light infantry.
00:34:43.420And probably pound for pound, maybe the best light infantry in the world except for the IDF.
00:35:12.060Hezbollah is pound for pound maybe the best in the world with the IDF.
00:35:16.800If these are trained, they fought for decades, this is a light infantry – these are light infantry elements, and you're going to have a real good old-fashioned war up to the north.
00:36:16.160Keep in mind, there are nearly 100,000 Israelis who are internal refugees in Israel because they've been evacuated from the northern border.
00:36:31.940And, yes, I think what we're going to be seeing in Lebanon is—call it an old-fashioned style, but it won't be old-fashioned because of new technology—maneuver war that's going to involve armored brigades with infantry support, artillery.
00:36:50.100Really, really a high-maneuver and high-firepower war of the likes that we haven't seen in the Middle East, at least, since 1973.
00:37:04.220This is why I wanted to have you on today, and I want to get you back on so we go into more of the tactical details of what's going to happen.
00:37:24.560I'm not a fan of Netanyahu coming over here because my point is now you've got to get on with it, and you've got to get the war—
00:37:29.940you've got to get the Hamas part taken care of because then you've got to pivot.
00:37:33.240To you, strategically, if there's this much blowback throughout the world—and I could play videos all weekend where we're in Sweden and Norway,
00:37:41.340and these are not like Swedes and Norwegians.
00:37:43.280This is all the migrants that have gone there the last 20 years.
00:37:46.320There's this anti-Israel hatred that's going on, even where we are in Hamas.
00:37:51.580How are we then going to pivot to a war that's going to be much bigger in scale and much more of, you know,
00:37:58.280I think a lot more casualties, a lot more firepower, and it's going to be a war to the knife because neither side is going to back off.
00:38:05.120How are we going to win the information war if, to be brutally frank, we're losing the information war throughout the world,
00:38:11.660and we're particularly losing it here in the United States of America, sir?
00:39:51.680So with all due disrespect to public opinion, Israel's going to have to fight them because we're fighting a war of survival against them.
00:39:59.220And this is not over a strip of territory or whether we do or don't go into Rafah or in the north, whether it's Sidon or Tyre.
00:40:09.300This is an organization that wants to wipe out the Jews.
00:40:11.800And quite frankly, we're not interested in that.
00:40:16.240Major, when do you think the pivot's going to come?
00:40:18.580And are they going to wait to the situation where Hamas is taking care of Rafah and Judeo-Samaria?
00:40:22.920Or is Israel going to get it on in a bigger scale with the Persians in Lebanon and northern Israel sooner?
00:40:35.000I think preferable would be to finish at least the large-scale military operations in Gaza.
00:40:42.600By the way, not so much because of the front combat troops.
00:40:46.500I'm talking about the tanks and the infantry.
00:40:48.260We have that in addition to operating in the north.
00:40:51.780Our weakness is in combat support, artillery and air, and in part because of very poor strategic policies by Israel over the past decade in cutting some of our military resources.
00:41:07.040And I don't think they would be well divided between Gaza and Lebanon.
00:41:12.340It could be done, but given the option, that would be a mistake.
00:41:17.740In any event, we are only now, in the second week of June going into the third week of June, in a period where the weather is conducive to Israeli-style maneuver warfare.
00:41:34.820Israel doesn't really have four seasons.
00:42:10.140Above my pay grade in terms of Israeli's choice to do it.
00:42:14.940I think we're looking at maybe two or three weeks, but I don't want to go too far out on the limit on that.
00:42:21.260However, it could happen sooner if a Hezbollah strike is particularly lethal.
00:42:28.080In what I commonly refer to as the nursery school scenario, pick your tragedy, but a Hezbollah rocket or a drone hits a building with a nursery school, kills, pick your horror number of children, and then we're at war the next day.
00:42:45.440Major, how do people get you to your site about your books, your writing, and particularly your social media, sir?
00:43:51.200This has been a formal report to show what you've been arguing for years, how the leadership of the Chinese Communist Party are the richest people on earth and have essentially stolen all the wealth of China from Lao Baixing, sir.
00:44:29.100And so what Senator Rubio has done, as well as Andy Ogles and some other good folks on the Hill have done,
00:44:36.560is to try to pulse both the intelligence community to have a public document in time that hasn't appeared yet,
00:44:44.080but also the Congressional Research Service, which has published a public document really exploring the nature of their corruption and the wealth that they have around the world.
00:44:58.000And it's about time, Steve, we go on the offensive in political warfare.
00:45:02.020And this is a key step to do it, to demonstrate the corrupt nature of the Chinese Communist Party, which reveals the fundamental nature of them.
00:45:11.020They're a colonial regime put in power by the Soviet Union, and they rule basically, they're a group of thugs ruling China that has nothing to do with Chinanness,
00:45:22.860which has nothing to do with the great civilization of China or its past, and let's hope its future as well.
00:45:31.160So this is a key aspect, if you will, a key arrow in the quiver of offensive political warfare, going after the CCP, showing their illegitimacy, showing that they're a colonial product and that they're not fit to rule the Chinese people.
00:45:48.380The Chinese, real quickly for you, Bounce, I'll have you back on six.
00:45:53.280I think I'll get you Gertz, hopefully Berkowitz will be ready.
00:45:57.420But the Chinese people don't, I think it's hidden from them, and this is one of the points, if they understand that their wealth has been stolen by these thugs, these criminals, they'll be outraged.
00:46:07.280This is one way to overthrow this dictatorial regime.
00:46:09.900I mean, in your report, the report from CRS and your write-up in the Sunday Guardian of India is jaw-dropping.
00:46:15.680I mean, these are the richest families on earth.
00:46:47.400But it shows that, again, they're just chock full of, they're full of lies, right?
00:46:53.980Every aspect of this is illegitimate, of their rule, of the CCP's rule is illegitimate.
00:46:58.360And their personal wealth is beyond, essentially, almost accounting.
00:47:07.280It's going to take, obviously, good folks working together to find out the wealth, to reveal the wealth in London and in Switzerland, in the Gulf, and Hong Kong, and elsewhere, Steve, as you know.
00:47:22.040But it shows that, again, because they're illegitimate, the Chinese people and people of goodwill around the world need to work together to evict them from power.
00:47:34.220Dr. Thayer, where do people go to get the book with you and Captain Finnell, to get this report, to get all your writings and your social media?
00:47:44.320Jim Finnell and I wrote Embracing Communist China, America's Greatest Strategic Failure, which is available at Amazon or wherever you buy books.
00:47:51.140And I'm at Bradley Thayer on Getter and Bradley Thayer at Truth and Brad Thayer on X.
00:47:55.580And the CRS, the Congressional Research Service Report, is available at the CRS website.
00:48:01.080And I'll send those details, Steve, so that they can be posted as well.
00:49:17.680I've got about a minute and a half, 90 seconds, my co-host.
00:49:23.440Your thoughts on what you heard, particularly on mass migration, the tectonic plate shifts, and the winds of change, brother?
00:49:29.660Well, let me quickly go to The Guardian, because I like what they said.
00:49:35.780That basically mirrors my reading of the European elections.
00:49:39.760They had a guy from the German Institute of International Affairs say this, that European politics are going to get more polarizing, more politicized, and more populist.
00:49:50.360And I think that's absolutely right, and that's only a good thing, because the more impactful European politics are, the more people will take note, and the more people that start taking note, because there's a lot of apathy, the more people that will be coming over to our side.
00:50:06.360With regards to the immigration point, it's absolutely clear, I think, that the United States of America has a large contingent within it that loads and detests the Judeo-Christian West.
00:50:18.580But it's not all people coming in over the border.
00:50:22.760There are people who have been coming in legally, and to some extent, that could even be the greater challenge for America to get to the Judeo-Christian.
00:50:32.140I know I don't have any much time, but as Todd Benzman was talking, I just digged up this quote from what Ted Kennedy, if he's looking up at us, smiling benevolently for all the damage he's done to the United States.
00:50:44.500It's back in the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965.
00:50:48.180He says this, the bill will not flood our cities with immigrants.
00:50:53.120It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society.
00:50:56.220It will not relax the standards of admission.
00:50:59.060It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs.
00:51:02.180Steve, every one of those things 60 years ago is an outright, in-your-face lie.
00:51:07.000And the United States, as we saw from the clips that you had earlier, is living the consequences of that.
00:51:12.900Never trust progressives when they bombard you over their head with platitudes, Steve.
00:51:20.500Ben Harnwell, we'll see you in the morning.