Bannon's War Room - June 10, 2024


WarRoom Battleground 551: The Tories Are Finished


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

159.97495

Word Count

8,682

Sentence Count

474

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

52


Summary

Steve and Ben are joined by journalist Ben Harnwell to discuss the rise of the far-right in America and the possibility of a far-Right comeback in Europe. They also discuss Naomi Klein and her new book, The War Room.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
00:00:11.420 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
00:00:18.420 authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just
00:00:24.320 like in Georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
00:00:29.080 misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the
00:00:33.500 fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your
00:00:40.540 host Stephen K Bannon with this normalization of the far right in this country and this idea that
00:00:49.640 you're just voting for the opposition I think this is a dangerous party if we look at Farage's
00:00:54.400 alliance with Trump and Trump's open warfare with democracy his statements that he's going to be a
00:01:00.500 dictator on day one I don't think that it that it is something casual to just say oh well you know
00:01:06.480 maybe they'll make a better opposition you know since I've been here this country has been in the
00:01:12.180 grips of of a scandal about about Rishi Sunak's actions around D-Day and and and I understand why
00:01:22.020 people are offended I understand the pain that this is that this is evoked but to me the lessons of the
00:01:28.700 Second World War the lessons of D-Day the the the the the way to honor the many many victims is to look at
00:01:35.960 history and look at the conditions under which the far right rises and I think it's when the right
00:01:41.880 makes an alliance of convenience with the far right that is what fascism rises I think that the Tories
00:01:48.260 know they're going to lose and they seem to be practically throwing the election they've basically
00:01:53.680 written it off and it seems like labor is running trying not to make any sudden movements and to send
00:01:59.740 lots of reassuring messages that very little really is going to change and I think if we are you
00:02:04.640 disappointed are you disappointed by that I am I'm not just disappointed I'm worried because if we
00:02:09.420 look at what just happened in Europe if we look at what Schultz is doing I'm seeing labor poised to
00:02:15.280 make the same mistakes which absolutely I think will win an election but we'll set the table for a far
00:02:20.660 right comeback that's what I'm worried about I think I think the message that we're seeing from Europe is
00:02:26.380 there really need to be policies that meet people's most urgent needs and this idea of of what we're
00:02:33.300 hearing from your leader about these fiscal rules and basically sounding like Margaret Thatcher on
00:02:38.640 running a government like a household which is ridiculous is going to set the table for a far
00:02:44.140 right come back. Monday 10 June the year of our Lord 2024 what a clip what a great clip Ben Harnwell
00:02:53.040 as we talked about in the morning show absolutely tectonic plate shift heads are blown up all over
00:02:58.840 Europe and here's a good thing about the European parliamentary elections it sent for the first
00:03:03.780 time really shockwaves through national governments now clearly in the UK you don't have that problem
00:03:09.280 since you you actually got your sovereignty back in 2016 with Brexit but remember that was the predicate
00:03:16.180 to the Trump revolt the Trump win in November Brexit happened in late June. Your commentary thoughts
00:03:24.080 you're going to co-host me for the whole hour about what's happened 24 hours after 20 hours after the
00:03:31.860 after the European parliamentary elections. Steve you're trolling me by giving me a cold open with
00:03:39.560 Naomi Klein. This is basically a communist this woman to give you an idea of just what a grifter she is
00:03:52.660 she's pushed out a whole book um claiming to be uh popular on the war room on the war room oh no no
00:04:00.900 no she's not I love her she wrote a whole book about us we haven't profiled it we'll have to go on
00:04:05.580 more deck called doppelganger of what she went after Naomi Wolf not from being on war room being on war
00:04:13.280 room for which she claims she's confused and barred from all the best salons now um because people
00:04:21.560 confuse her with war rooms Naomi Wolf right and she's pushed a whole book she's given herself a
00:04:27.220 second wind now because this woman had no traction um and now she's back she's back in the television
00:04:32.520 studios on the back of this book to the poor poor Naomi Wolf right the war room's very own Naomi Wolf
00:04:39.460 right and she didn't do anything to deserve this so that's Naomi Klein folks um she look it's a load
00:04:45.160 of nonsense what she said dismiss all of it apart from one interesting thing she says that um that
00:04:51.280 Keir Starmer will win but that will set the table for a far right comeback uh now she might actually be
00:04:58.520 right on that um but not in the sense that hold it hold it hang on hang on hang on that's my that's
00:05:05.280 my theory the case that's why Nigel's in here Keir Starmer they're gonna pick up 400 seats
00:05:09.440 Tories are finished but that sets up for the true populist nationalist that's what Brexit didn't do
00:05:15.140 the the British did not embrace nationalism when they did Brexit Boris Johnson tried to have uh
00:05:21.640 Singapore on the Thames he didn't go to the heart of the heart of the problem sir
00:05:26.680 well that you know it's it's right but Boris Johnson lacked a certain focus um but I think his
00:05:33.420 intentions were were were um were laudable I think I think his idea of doing that was okay he didn't
00:05:40.820 even try you know because that guy's so easily distracted um but her whole shtick her opening
00:05:47.200 shtick in in the beginning of the first one saying that you know this is normalization of this is the
00:05:53.120 existence of Nigel Farage right is normalization of the far right and yet her exhibit A on this in fact
00:06:01.300 her only exhibit exhibits that Nigel Farage is the normalization of the far right the only thing she
00:06:07.040 can pin on him to say that this guy is far right is folks what is it he supports Donald Trump
00:06:13.120 wow Naomi Naomi right that that's the best you can do
00:06:22.260 but this is this is this is this is this stuff this is the nonsense on which sort of British British I
00:06:30.960 think I was a BBC clip wasn't it this is the nonsense that they push out and pump in to the
00:06:36.860 British heads you know the British Steve the British people are basically like I like foie gras foie gras
00:06:43.380 geese right they have the pipe down the throat and they're just for false fed 24 hours seven this
00:06:50.400 nonsense this absolute nonsense which has no real relationship to the truth
00:06:57.160 hang on for one second you're my co-host you're gonna be coming in and out I want to thank you
00:07:03.960 for being up tonight in uh in in Rome I want to go Benzman we sent you on a sub not a sabbatical
00:07:10.400 you took off and at the time I was saying hey dude we got so much going on here the border's on fire
00:07:14.540 you said I've got to go there you actually spent a month I think 30 days you went to nine countries
00:07:21.580 all frontline all about the border and yesterday you see you see it manifested the the biggest issue
00:07:26.780 number one issue is the invasion of these borders the lack of sovereignty that kind of led to the
00:07:32.560 rise of the right but most importantly had you got national governments falling the Belgium
00:07:37.540 prime minister resigns uh the French Macron dissolves parliament there's pressures in Ireland
00:07:44.060 so give it you kind of warn us about this this was going to happen months ago tell me about it
00:07:48.800 yeah that's right there's there's an uprising uh among European populations voting publics
00:07:56.660 over illegal immigration through the external borders there Europeans are in the midst of a mass
00:08:03.460 migration crisis nowhere near the like the U.S. one because nothing in history has really rivaled ours
00:08:10.720 of course but uh there is a very very significant heavy mass migration crisis coming
00:08:18.400 uh through the Balkan routes and through the Mediterranean I was all along the Balkan routes on the ground
00:08:24.700 interviewing the immigrants and and uh UN agencies and uh you know everybody who who uh has a stake in
00:08:33.200 that and it was clear uh back in uh November December that the um right of center pro uh border security
00:08:44.680 right uh was going to rise uh was already clear uh back then and it just happened that that's what
00:08:53.080 happened and it it's because the liberal parties they they were trying to message right-wing sounding kind of
00:09:01.980 border security policies but nobody believes them uh they're full of it they're they're talking tough
00:09:09.280 kind of like Joe Biden is right now but we all know that Joe Biden doesn't mean it and everybody
00:09:15.940 knows that Macron didn't mean it and Schultz didn't mean it uh look at Le Pen's party okay hold it stop
00:09:24.040 hold it hold it stop full stop full stop full stop this is the signal they knew they had a problem in
00:09:30.120 polling I'm gonna get a clip in polling a second they knew they had a political problem because people
00:09:34.240 weren't buying anymore they their lived experience they could see it they tried to have a bunch of these
00:09:38.580 performative policies the people in Europe look through it to the degree that Macron's government
00:09:43.700 is essentially he got 15 percent yesterday that's why he had to call he had to dissolve parliament
00:09:48.100 he could be tossed theoretically possibly in a couple of weeks because of this it's the exact same
00:09:53.840 thing you've been reporting on not just there but with Joe Biden this performative this performative
00:09:58.580 EO that he's done right now it's the exact same thing they understand these policies are rejected
00:10:04.080 on the ground by the citizens of that country they will do these globalists will do everything
00:10:09.740 to do something performative just to think oh I'm really taking action I'm taking action but people
00:10:14.120 sit there go that's a lie and I want to throw these bums out is that basically your theory of the case
00:10:19.080 right I mean I I promise you that the the the situation room in the Biden campaign
00:10:27.360 is a buzz today over this they are freaked out uh that what happened in Europe is is gonna happen
00:10:36.160 here and that's what they're worried about uh they're going to do what they can but people are sick and
00:10:42.080 tired of this these mass migrations like the the rank and file that just people can see what's happening
00:10:49.500 there they've got a long track record of terror attacks bloody terror attacks from one end of the
00:10:56.600 European continent to the other for five six seven years straight they get it and they also know
00:11:03.020 that it is on again it is on again and the reason it's on again is because there are certain liberal
00:11:10.080 governments I'll just say Slovenia is one of them that is uh that that are like a weak link in the in the
00:11:18.440 chain link fence they're getting through there in Slovenia they're getting through they just put together
00:11:24.700 a pact uh on migration and asylum that if you read the fine print like you read the fine print of
00:11:32.460 the Biden administration's EO is filled with exceptions that swallow up the rule it's all bs and
00:11:40.600 everybody knows it and that's what's going on there and I think that's what's going to happen here I
00:11:44.400 wouldn't be surprised uh if your takeaway is the situation the situation room in the Biden one last
00:11:51.180 thing before I go to this clip about polling is that um you know you you've warned about this you
00:11:56.980 told about the EO the story up and now it's just the San Diego sector they've identified they see an
00:12:01.880 internal memo that identifies it's just Russians and people on the the Central Asian stands that are
00:12:08.960 to be precluded everybody else come on in you're going to get uh you're going to get papers and
00:12:14.040 we'll see in seven years is that your understanding of this memo that's been floating around right well
00:12:19.720 nobody in the in the war room posse should be surprised by this because you know I and probably
00:12:26.000 other guests have been on your show over and over again telling your people that this EO is complete
00:12:32.000 bs there is nothing there's no teeth in it it's all gum and no teeth and what you're seeing with
00:12:39.720 these memos that are coming out that's not the only there's a few memos coming out that are telling
00:12:44.820 the frontline guys ah you gotta let everybody in you know pretty much let everybody in uh I I would be
00:12:51.660 hard-pressed I'd like to see an immigrant that actually gets sent back like somebody find me one
00:12:58.140 uh maybe there'll be some but but not enough to really change the momentum of the inflow here at
00:13:06.000 all it's all pro forma for pro formative and like you said and also you're already starting to see them
00:13:13.580 the Biden campaign and administration officials do exactly what I said that they were going to do
00:13:19.320 which is shift the blame over to the Republicans for killing that Lankford bill they are all over the
00:13:26.440 place already today the lawsuits happened uh ACLU I told you there were going to be lawsuits they
00:13:33.640 lawsuit this thing to death and then the very next thing they would do is start blaming the Republicans
00:13:38.700 they're getting ready for that televised debate here in a couple weeks yeah let's go and play the clip
00:13:45.860 I want to play the polling clip uh first and then I got one about what happened in Washington DC yesterday
00:13:50.480 about your terrorists coming across the border let's let's do the polling clip first principle would you
00:13:55.620 support a new government program that would deport all people living in the U.S. illegally and that
00:14:01.940 finds majority favor that finds six and ten it's strongest among folks who are MAGA it's strongest among
00:14:08.360 Trump supporters but also from some Democrats as well and I think that that speaks to the general idea
00:14:14.600 not just that people see the border as a crisis but also where we are in the campaign where a lot of
00:14:20.120 very dramatic or you know new proposals out there are finding favor here and then depending on the
00:14:27.380 details of what's talked about on the campaign trail some of what Mr. Trump talks about could be
00:14:32.360 illegal it doesn't seem practical in some sense to round up children and then we know that the courts
00:14:40.120 have questioned whether local authorities would have the ability to do it and federal authorities don't
00:14:45.920 have the resources so what exactly do people think they're supporting well when you measure public
00:14:51.300 sentiment on this or really just about any policy you're getting a sense of direction you're getting
00:14:56.580 broad brushstrokes but those kinds of details well that's often up to the legislatures and the courts
00:15:02.220 later on we tested even the idea of should local law enforcement be involved in this and a lot of folks
00:15:09.000 do say yes again the details of that the specifics you're not going to pick that up in an aggregate
00:15:15.020 public opinion they weren't tracking the supreme court decisions undoubtedly not but look it does
00:15:20.480 tell you though for the viewer watching this campaign that what we're seeing here connects to whether it's
00:15:25.980 the courts the what some people say is the politicization of the courts these ideas of mass
00:15:32.580 deportations etc we are in a different era in which a lot of folks say the system as a whole
00:15:39.680 is not working and all of these if you connect the dots through them are part of that reaction
00:15:45.160 against it which explains some of that general sentiment for some of these policies it's really
00:15:50.520 just kind of a do something do something and uh another bombshell yesterday on the mass deportation
00:15:57.340 you saw the cc uh the cbs uh correspondent there the host of face the nation trying to push back and
00:16:03.680 say oh this how can this be overwhelming north of 60 percent and sometimes up to 80 whatever the
00:16:09.520 policy is on mass deportations the opera word is mass todd bensman you've told us this is where
00:16:16.140 america is now it's being manifested in these polls and in the mainstream media is in total and complete
00:16:21.400 meltdown your thoughts sir right i'm just i'm surprised that they're so surprised this thing has been
00:16:28.320 going on for three and a half years the polling is was there in 2022 uh it's just simply gotten worse
00:16:36.260 since 2022 because the pipeline burst and splattered all over every wall of every major city in the
00:16:44.080 country uh and now they're having to deal with that mess uh so this shouldn't be any surprise to
00:16:50.500 anybody trump sure surely uh zeroed in on this uh early and often and he understands he
00:16:58.240 won his first presidency on this issue he may very well win a second presidency on this issue
00:17:04.180 and they're all freaked out about it but surprised i i don't understand how they're surprised like they
00:17:10.800 don't know that millions and millions of people were allowed engineered organized to cross our southern
00:17:19.540 border and pour into every city in america with their hands out of course people are going to be
00:17:25.920 it's going to be a reaction yes it's going to be a reaction the major the liberal progressive media
00:17:31.680 is in denial um i've got major uh chat off uh chat off who's uh in northern israel i'm gonna get to
00:17:38.680 him in a second um and ben i'll get to you uh in in in that segment i gotta finish i want to finish
00:17:44.860 because todd before you wrote the book overrun you spent a couple of years and you talked about
00:17:49.140 jihadists coming across the border and terrorists coming across the border people didn't pay enough
00:17:53.520 attention of the time you know we build the wall that was one of the principal things that we said
00:17:57.420 symbolically you got to build this wall and you got to do it quickly because this is one of the
00:18:01.060 problems um in washington dc on a sunday it was excuse me saturday it was saturday saturday was this
00:18:10.880 incredible riot that happened across the street from the white house do we have a clip i want to play a
00:18:16.200 little bit of it i want to get your thoughts todd uh and then i want to get the major in here but
00:18:20.480 folks we are we are seeing things now with these pro-hamas groups and these these groups that are
00:18:27.140 uh that are anti-american that we've never seen this country before let's see it from uh really
00:18:31.480 right across the street from the white house
00:18:32.880 i know it's proud of you all that scientism has lost
00:18:39.020 israel has lost
00:18:42.860 but already i need to remember
00:18:46.600 that breaking was the butcher of qatza and history will show that qatza will not be defeated
00:18:54.920 the victory
00:18:56.000 victory
00:18:57.840 victory
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00:19:13.260 F**k you fascist!
00:19:43.260 F**k you fascist!
00:20:13.260 The mainstream media did not play this up.
00:20:33.840 This was shocking, and it was dangerous.
00:20:36.140 I've never seen more hatred in my life.
00:20:39.900 The hatred not just for Israel, but for the United States of America.
00:20:42.460 Desecration of our statues and monuments.
00:20:45.560 But Todd, the reason I wanted you to stick around for this before I go to the major,
00:20:48.540 is you warned us years ago that part of this open borders policy,
00:20:54.760 that jihadists and other Sharia supremacists, etc., are pouring across this border.
00:20:59.700 That group, and I keep telling people, these are not simply college students.
00:21:02.640 This is well-financed, it's well-organized, and you have some very, very bad hombres.
00:21:07.580 Remember, you've got a lot of college kids there, etc., that's unacceptable.
00:21:10.600 But you've got some very bad hombres.
00:21:12.540 I mean, they're throwing stuff at Park Rangers, the desecrating sites, the Secret Service backed off yesterday.
00:21:16.960 I mean, there's much more violent footage we could put up there than that.
00:21:20.100 Your thoughts from the guy that's really tracked jihadists coming across the border, sir?
00:21:24.280 Well, we have 360 known suspected terrorists on the FBI's watch list that we've apprehended crossing the southern border.
00:21:36.380 But last week I wrote a piece, and I think I'm still the only one in the country to have written about this,
00:21:41.780 court case right out of Sacramento federal court case of a jihadist who crossed the southern border
00:21:48.940 and went right to work plotting to support al-Nusra front over in Syria.
00:21:56.720 And the FBI thought that he also was going to go kinetic.
00:22:00.720 He was just convicted and sentenced this year, and he crossed the southern border.
00:22:07.960 That is a bona fide convicted terrorist under terrorism statutes in the United States who crossed the southern border.
00:22:15.980 And that comes on the heels of a Jordanian who crossed the southern border
00:22:22.020 and went on to conduct an attempted vehicle ramming attack at Quantico on May 3rd.
00:22:29.240 And nobody will talk about it with the administration, and the media won't cover it.
00:22:33.760 Nobody will cover this thing or talk about it.
00:22:36.280 But he was a Jordanian border crosser.
00:22:39.000 A lot of Palestinians, by the way, have Jordanian passports.
00:22:42.740 And he was with another, quote-unquote, Jordanian in that truck.
00:22:48.820 Luckily, the Marines thwarted that attack.
00:22:51.900 I believe that was a jihadist attack motivated by terrorism because of the way the administration is responding to questions about it.
00:23:02.040 They won't rule it out, which means that it was a terror attack in my view.
00:23:07.440 But in any case, the FBI director is warning that the border is a sieve for terrorists.
00:23:16.640 The DHS 2024 threat assessment warns that the border is wide open to terror infiltration and attack.
00:23:26.560 So it's not just crazy Todd Binsman.
00:23:28.660 It's mainstream intelligence community stuff at this point.
00:23:32.000 Yeah.
00:23:33.960 As Biden regime, they're putting it out there.
00:23:36.720 I mean, it's their DHS, their FBI.
00:23:38.660 They're putting it out there.
00:23:39.720 Todd, where do people go to get the books, the writings?
00:23:42.360 More than ever, social media, because you're on point on this thing.
00:23:45.880 It's getting more and more dangerous every day.
00:23:49.100 ToddBinsman.com.
00:23:50.720 You can get access to all my social media.
00:23:53.140 I work for the Center for Immigration Studies, cis.org.
00:23:57.460 A bunch of my stuff is up there, too.
00:23:59.700 Keep your eye on me in the next couple of days.
00:24:02.960 I've got a good one coming.
00:24:06.780 We will have you up when the good one comes up.
00:24:08.460 They're not good.
00:24:08.980 They're great.
00:24:09.480 You're right now in the middle of this.
00:24:10.800 And this is the centerpiece of the of the elections, but both in Europe and here.
00:24:14.800 France fell because of this.
00:24:16.580 You warned people and even Macron didn't take it seriously.
00:24:19.260 You're absolutely right.
00:24:19.900 In the situation room of the Biden regime's reelection, they're in shock right now about
00:24:26.300 what they saw in Europe, particularly since Biden was with Macron for 72 hours.
00:24:30.320 He's the he's the cooler.
00:24:31.580 Yes, sir.
00:24:32.480 The rally party scored twice as big a percentage as Macron's party.
00:24:38.880 That's Le Pen.
00:24:40.080 Le Pen beat him hard.
00:24:42.720 Yeah.
00:24:43.640 He was 15 percent.
00:24:45.240 That's why he dissolved parliament.
00:24:46.640 By the way, she's still is still front national to me.
00:24:48.960 Anyway, thank you, brother.
00:24:50.260 Look forward to having me back on.
00:24:51.620 Major Chudoff, IDF, I think you're reserve and retired.
00:24:55.960 But, sir, is it being reported in Israel on media, the violence?
00:25:01.440 And before I talk about the defense of the north of Israel, are they getting the real facts of what's happening in the United States with these riots?
00:25:10.080 And that's what it was on Saturday are things I've never seen before.
00:25:13.480 It's absolute disgrace.
00:25:14.820 And these are professional jihadists that are in this crowd.
00:25:18.800 A lot of these people egging it on.
00:25:20.260 Are the Israeli people actually getting this?
00:25:22.420 Yes, it's being very clearly covered in the mainstream media here.
00:25:30.100 We've been watching it from day one.
00:25:32.420 Remember that the demonstrations against Israel started already on October 8th.
00:25:40.940 In other words, today it's Rafa is the subject of the day, but the support for Hamas for their murder, kidnapping, rape, body snatching already began the day after it happened, long before Israel even thought of a response, let alone put it into action.
00:26:01.140 And, yes, we watch that very closely.
00:26:04.020 You know, Israel doesn't have a lot of friends out there.
00:26:07.760 America is pretty much it, a couple of others.
00:26:12.860 And for most Israelis, it's critically important to see what's happening on the streets and the campuses of America.
00:26:17.920 So, yes, we see it.
00:26:19.320 And, yes, we watch it.
00:26:20.140 A major hang on.
00:26:23.260 We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:26:24.440 We're going to talk about the defense and where the war is going, not just in Gaza or in Judea Samaria against the Muslim Brotherhood franchisee Hamas, but I think where the real fight is with the Persian militias.
00:26:35.880 This is about Persia versus the West.
00:26:38.860 Israel is just their first bite, but they're coming for America.
00:26:42.600 Short commercial break.
00:26:43.560 We'll be back in the war room in just a moment.
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00:31:34.040 Major, I've never seen anything.
00:31:37.300 I keep telling people this is not about Israel.
00:31:39.080 It's not about the Jewish people.
00:31:40.140 This is about the United States of America and the Judeo-Christian West, and they are rolling hard.
00:31:44.120 What happened over the weekend in Washington, D.C., it was allowed to happen, and you had the Secret Service back off.
00:31:49.940 You had the poor Park Service guys.
00:31:53.420 I mean, they're the most general.
00:31:54.300 They're like Smokey the Bear guys.
00:31:55.920 There's people throwing stuff at them.
00:31:58.440 Dangerous.
00:31:58.920 The Secret Service backed off.
00:32:00.760 The D.C.
00:32:01.220 More of the special police backed off.
00:32:03.480 It was the—this is a crowd.
00:32:05.540 If you've been a Jewish person and walked through there, you'd have been torn limb for limb, and it's getting out of control here.
00:32:11.000 And we haven't started, I think, the most important part of the war.
00:32:13.700 Please tell me you're in the north right now.
00:32:15.180 I've been telling people, hey, this is all about Persia and the West like it always has been.
00:32:20.320 They're coming in hard on the Israelis, and they're coming in hard from Lebanon with Hezbollah and these other Persian-backed militias.
00:32:27.540 Can you give us a real—get us an update, a situation report on where we really stand on the war in the north?
00:32:34.520 Okay.
00:32:35.400 Let's start by breaking down a little bit the distinction between Hezbollah and the other groups.
00:32:43.420 Iran is behind militias in Iraq, militias in Syria, the Khutis in Yemen.
00:32:49.960 They've got proxies like Hamas and Islamic Jihad.
00:32:53.780 Hezbollah has to be put in an entirely different category.
00:32:56.280 Hezbollah is not a proxy, and it's not a militia.
00:32:59.160 It's a wholly owned subsidiary of the Quds Force of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps.
00:33:05.200 Hezbollah was established by Ayatollah Khomeini.
00:33:07.980 And when we start with that understanding, we realize that we're talking about an entirely different organization, different in type.
00:33:17.640 They are not working with Iran.
00:33:22.800 They're not working for Iran.
00:33:24.780 They are part of Iran.
00:33:25.940 They take their orders from Tehran and from Iran.
00:33:28.960 So that's first and foremost.
00:33:31.960 And remember, Ayatollah Khomeini was the guy who said that Israel was the little Satan and America is the great Satan.
00:33:41.500 And when he was talking about little and great, he wasn't speaking in geographical terms.
00:33:45.260 He was speaking in his theological terms.
00:33:47.740 America is the great evil in the world as far as the Khomeiniists are concerned, and that's the Iran of today.
00:33:53.100 Hezbollah is orders of magnitude, better equipped, better trained, better organized, and better backed by Iran than Hamas is.
00:34:06.800 In other words, what we've seen over the past seven months, eight months in Gaza is a very, very small fraction of what we're actually facing with Hezbollah in the north.
00:34:20.280 Now, since October 7th and since this war broke out.
00:34:24.280 But hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:34:27.180 This is what I want people to understand.
00:34:29.260 The Muslim Brotherhood franchisee of Hamas, and it has got Persian money too, they're a terrorist organization within a group, and they fight.
00:34:37.020 Hezbollah, the Persians up and the Persian back guys up in the north, they're light infantry.
00:34:43.420 And probably pound for pound, maybe the best light infantry in the world except for the IDF.
00:34:48.440 This is a real fighting force.
00:34:49.480 You're going to fight a much more – that's a conventional war up there.
00:34:53.300 You're going to have missiles, airplanes, close air support.
00:34:56.400 You've got artillery.
00:34:57.860 This is a real like what we call war.
00:35:00.320 This is not some terrorist – as bad as Gaza is, as bad as Judea-Samaria is, this is a different deal.
00:35:07.380 And these guys – and the guys down in Hamas, yes, they're terrorists, but it's still Hamas.
00:35:10.760 I mean, come on.
00:35:12.060 Hezbollah is pound for pound maybe the best in the world with the IDF.
00:35:16.800 If these are trained, they fought for decades, this is a light infantry – these are light infantry elements, and you're going to have a real good old-fashioned war up to the north.
00:35:26.120 Is that a good summary?
00:35:29.680 That's a very good summary.
00:35:30.940 They are well-trained light infantry.
00:35:34.200 They have high skills in terms of their field craft.
00:35:39.220 And here, full disclosure, I'm the co-author of the field craft manual for the IDF ground forces a couple of decades ago.
00:35:46.640 And when I watch these guys, I look at them on that level of professionalism.
00:35:52.000 They are very well-trained in their weapons.
00:35:55.220 We're seeing their work now.
00:35:57.940 Everybody's talking about the rockets that they're firing.
00:36:00.440 Their anti-tank missile skills are extremely impressive, and they're causing a lot of damage as a result of that.
00:36:08.120 Their technology skills are very good.
00:36:10.460 They've managed to put drones very deep into northern Israel.
00:36:14.640 They've done a lot of damage.
00:36:16.160 Keep in mind, there are nearly 100,000 Israelis who are internal refugees in Israel because they've been evacuated from the northern border.
00:36:25.220 They are highly skilled.
00:36:28.300 They are motivated.
00:36:29.680 They're trained.
00:36:30.900 They're organized.
00:36:31.940 And, yes, I think what we're going to be seeing in Lebanon is—call it an old-fashioned style, but it won't be old-fashioned because of new technology—maneuver war that's going to involve armored brigades with infantry support, artillery.
00:36:50.100 Really, really a high-maneuver and high-firepower war of the likes that we haven't seen in the Middle East, at least, since 1973.
00:37:00.260 Okay, so help me out here, Major.
00:37:04.220 This is why I wanted to have you on today, and I want to get you back on so we go into more of the tactical details of what's going to happen.
00:37:09.880 Here's what I don't get.
00:37:11.400 And I'm opposed, and I've been opposed to Netanyahu coming over here because I keep saying—
00:37:15.600 Sorry, I just got an alert that there's a drone attack not far from here.
00:37:22.480 Wow.
00:37:23.340 Unbelievable.
00:37:23.800 In the north.
00:37:24.560 I'm not a fan of Netanyahu coming over here because my point is now you've got to get on with it, and you've got to get the war—
00:37:29.940 you've got to get the Hamas part taken care of because then you've got to pivot.
00:37:33.240 To you, strategically, if there's this much blowback throughout the world—and I could play videos all weekend where we're in Sweden and Norway,
00:37:41.340 and these are not like Swedes and Norwegians.
00:37:43.280 This is all the migrants that have gone there the last 20 years.
00:37:46.320 There's this anti-Israel hatred that's going on, even where we are in Hamas.
00:37:51.580 How are we then going to pivot to a war that's going to be much bigger in scale and much more of, you know,
00:37:58.280 I think a lot more casualties, a lot more firepower, and it's going to be a war to the knife because neither side is going to back off.
00:38:05.120 How are we going to win the information war if, to be brutally frank, we're losing the information war throughout the world,
00:38:11.660 and we're particularly losing it here in the United States of America, sir?
00:38:14.940 I agree with you.
00:38:17.800 And I watch the news, even this most recent hostage rescue that is turned into the bloodbath of Nusayrat,
00:38:29.540 all these innocent women and children who are running around there firing RPGs at our troops.
00:38:35.600 The whole thing is absurd.
00:38:36.780 And I agree with you.
00:38:39.300 The information war is one that we're losing, I think, in part because of poor performance on our part.
00:38:47.700 And by our part, I mean Israel, the Israeli government, and also Israel's supporters.
00:38:52.380 But there's a sort of a hard wall to get through when the media refuses to report the truth, when it'll spin the truth,
00:39:04.040 and the average person isn't interested.
00:39:06.480 And you know what?
00:39:07.120 If you repeat, Goebbels and Hitler said it, you repeat the big lie often enough, it becomes the truth.
00:39:13.240 How many times do you say, you know, murdering children and murdering children and genocide and genocide
00:39:18.660 don't confuse you with the fact that my mind is already made up?
00:39:22.800 But to answer your question, how do we do it?
00:39:25.060 We don't have any choice.
00:39:26.780 Hezbollah draws its ideology, by the way, as does Hamas, from the Nazis.
00:39:34.580 And I say that not lightly.
00:39:37.080 There's very good research on it.
00:39:38.780 There's good literature on it, citable, that they literally draw from Hitler, from Mein Kampf,
00:39:46.540 and their objective is the genocide of the Jewish people.
00:39:49.900 They say so outright.
00:39:51.680 So with all due disrespect to public opinion, Israel's going to have to fight them because we're fighting a war of survival against them.
00:39:59.220 And this is not over a strip of territory or whether we do or don't go into Rafah or in the north, whether it's Sidon or Tyre.
00:40:09.300 This is an organization that wants to wipe out the Jews.
00:40:11.800 And quite frankly, we're not interested in that.
00:40:16.240 Major, when do you think the pivot's going to come?
00:40:18.580 And are they going to wait to the situation where Hamas is taking care of Rafah and Judeo-Samaria?
00:40:22.920 Or is Israel going to get it on in a bigger scale with the Persians in Lebanon and northern Israel sooner?
00:40:35.000 I think preferable would be to finish at least the large-scale military operations in Gaza.
00:40:42.600 By the way, not so much because of the front combat troops.
00:40:46.500 I'm talking about the tanks and the infantry.
00:40:48.260 We have that in addition to operating in the north.
00:40:51.780 Our weakness is in combat support, artillery and air, and in part because of very poor strategic policies by Israel over the past decade in cutting some of our military resources.
00:41:07.040 And I don't think they would be well divided between Gaza and Lebanon.
00:41:12.340 It could be done, but given the option, that would be a mistake.
00:41:17.740 In any event, we are only now, in the second week of June going into the third week of June, in a period where the weather is conducive to Israeli-style maneuver warfare.
00:41:34.820 Israel doesn't really have four seasons.
00:41:37.520 We have two seasons.
00:41:38.420 We have a rainy season and a dry season.
00:41:40.100 We have just ended, for all intents and purposes, the rainy season.
00:41:45.200 It rained a couple of weeks ago.
00:41:46.400 That's probably going to be the last rain until September or October.
00:41:51.480 Mud plays havoc with armored vehicles in the field.
00:41:56.620 It's an old rule, and anybody who's ever had to deal with it is aware of it.
00:42:00.740 We are now past the mud stage, which means that at least the weather is conducive to an Israeli operation.
00:42:08.820 When exactly?
00:42:10.140 Above my pay grade in terms of Israeli's choice to do it.
00:42:14.940 I think we're looking at maybe two or three weeks, but I don't want to go too far out on the limit on that.
00:42:21.260 However, it could happen sooner if a Hezbollah strike is particularly lethal.
00:42:28.080 In what I commonly refer to as the nursery school scenario, pick your tragedy, but a Hezbollah rocket or a drone hits a building with a nursery school, kills, pick your horror number of children, and then we're at war the next day.
00:42:45.440 Major, how do people get you to your site about your books, your writing, and particularly your social media, sir?
00:42:52.560 My writings are articles.
00:42:54.780 The best way to find them is on Google.
00:42:58.320 I'll be starting a podcast in about a week or so, and I'll be happy to pass that on.
00:43:03.180 I haven't even named it yet, but I'll be pushing it out there considerably.
00:43:09.000 I'm also in the finishing stages of co-authoring a book on global antisemitism.
00:43:14.460 So again, as soon as that comes out, I'd be happy to let you know.
00:43:18.400 We want to launch your podcast here in the war room, so we'll stay in touch.
00:43:23.200 Thank you, Major.
00:43:24.480 Great update.
00:43:25.340 Great brief.
00:43:27.680 Israel in the north, I'm telling you, it's going to be a much bigger battle than what you're seeing in Gaza.
00:43:31.840 Two orders of magnitude bigger.
00:43:33.240 The Chinese Communist Party is underwriting a bunch of this through the Mullahs in Persia.
00:43:40.500 Dr. Thayer, amazing piece.
00:43:42.400 You and Paul Berkowitz, I only got a couple of minutes now, but I want to have you back maybe tomorrow.
00:43:47.080 Bill Gertz may join us too in the 6 o'clock show.
00:43:49.960 You wrote an amazing piece.
00:43:51.200 This has been a formal report to show what you've been arguing for years, how the leadership of the Chinese Communist Party are the richest people on earth and have essentially stolen all the wealth of China from Lao Baixing, sir.
00:44:06.320 Indeed, they have, Stephen.
00:44:08.040 A great pleasure to join you again.
00:44:10.480 So Paul Berkowitz and I wrote this piece, which appeared in the Sunday Guardian, which is a great paper in India, one of their best.
00:44:18.640 Calling attention to the corrupt nature of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:44:22.820 The fact that they're nominally communist and yet they're all billionaires, right?
00:44:26.940 Deca billionaires at least.
00:44:29.100 And so what Senator Rubio has done, as well as Andy Ogles and some other good folks on the Hill have done,
00:44:36.560 is to try to pulse both the intelligence community to have a public document in time that hasn't appeared yet,
00:44:44.080 but also the Congressional Research Service, which has published a public document really exploring the nature of their corruption and the wealth that they have around the world.
00:44:58.000 And it's about time, Steve, we go on the offensive in political warfare.
00:45:02.020 And this is a key step to do it, to demonstrate the corrupt nature of the Chinese Communist Party, which reveals the fundamental nature of them.
00:45:11.020 They're a colonial regime put in power by the Soviet Union, and they rule basically, they're a group of thugs ruling China that has nothing to do with Chinanness,
00:45:22.860 which has nothing to do with the great civilization of China or its past, and let's hope its future as well.
00:45:31.160 So this is a key aspect, if you will, a key arrow in the quiver of offensive political warfare, going after the CCP, showing their illegitimacy, showing that they're a colonial product and that they're not fit to rule the Chinese people.
00:45:48.380 The Chinese, real quickly for you, Bounce, I'll have you back on six.
00:45:53.280 I think I'll get you Gertz, hopefully Berkowitz will be ready.
00:45:55.840 We'll do a whole hour on it.
00:45:57.420 But the Chinese people don't, I think it's hidden from them, and this is one of the points, if they understand that their wealth has been stolen by these thugs, these criminals, they'll be outraged.
00:46:07.280 This is one way to overthrow this dictatorial regime.
00:46:09.900 I mean, in your report, the report from CRS and your write-up in the Sunday Guardian of India is jaw-dropping.
00:46:15.680 I mean, these are the richest families on earth.
00:46:17.840 These are richer than the Saudis.
00:46:19.420 This is richer than the Russian oligarchs or the oligarchs that have stolen all the money in Ukraine.
00:46:25.640 I mean, the wealth, the Gulf Emirates pale in comparison to these guys.
00:46:29.080 These are the wealthiest families on earth, sir.
00:46:32.100 Indeed they are, and they've been at it a lot longer, since 1949.
00:46:36.420 They've been accumulating their ill-gotten gains.
00:46:39.560 And so that's exactly right.
00:46:41.240 And our piece reptiles very closely with Bill Gertz's exceptional reporting.
00:46:45.680 On this topic.
00:46:47.400 But it shows that, again, they're just chock full of, they're full of lies, right?
00:46:53.980 Every aspect of this is illegitimate, of their rule, of the CCP's rule is illegitimate.
00:46:58.360 And their personal wealth is beyond, essentially, almost accounting.
00:47:07.280 It's going to take, obviously, good folks working together to find out the wealth, to reveal the wealth in London and in Switzerland, in the Gulf, and Hong Kong, and elsewhere, Steve, as you know.
00:47:22.040 But it shows that, again, because they're illegitimate, the Chinese people and people of goodwill around the world need to work together to evict them from power.
00:47:34.220 Dr. Thayer, where do people go to get the book with you and Captain Finnell, to get this report, to get all your writings and your social media?
00:47:44.320 Jim Finnell and I wrote Embracing Communist China, America's Greatest Strategic Failure, which is available at Amazon or wherever you buy books.
00:47:51.140 And I'm at Bradley Thayer on Getter and Bradley Thayer at Truth and Brad Thayer on X.
00:47:55.580 And the CRS, the Congressional Research Service Report, is available at the CRS website.
00:48:01.080 And I'll send those details, Steve, so that they can be posted as well.
00:48:07.540 And we'll see you back at 6.
00:48:08.880 We'll have Gertz's committed tomorrow.
00:48:11.340 We'll have Berkowitz up.
00:48:12.820 He was unavailable today.
00:48:13.780 And Dr. Thayer, all three of us will go through an hour and actually tell you the type of wealth we're talking about.
00:48:17.880 Dr. Bradley Thayer, once again, knocked it out of the park.
00:48:19.900 Thank you, sir.
00:48:21.140 Thank you, Steve.
00:48:21.900 Great pleasure.
00:48:22.540 Thanks.
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00:49:23.440 Your thoughts on what you heard, particularly on mass migration, the tectonic plate shifts, and the winds of change, brother?
00:49:29.660 Well, let me quickly go to The Guardian, because I like what they said.
00:49:35.780 That basically mirrors my reading of the European elections.
00:49:39.760 They had a guy from the German Institute of International Affairs say this, that European politics are going to get more polarizing, more politicized, and more populist.
00:49:50.360 And I think that's absolutely right, and that's only a good thing, because the more impactful European politics are, the more people will take note, and the more people that start taking note, because there's a lot of apathy, the more people that will be coming over to our side.
00:50:06.360 With regards to the immigration point, it's absolutely clear, I think, that the United States of America has a large contingent within it that loads and detests the Judeo-Christian West.
00:50:18.580 But it's not all people coming in over the border.
00:50:22.760 There are people who have been coming in legally, and to some extent, that could even be the greater challenge for America to get to the Judeo-Christian.
00:50:32.140 I know I don't have any much time, but as Todd Benzman was talking, I just digged up this quote from what Ted Kennedy, if he's looking up at us, smiling benevolently for all the damage he's done to the United States.
00:50:44.500 It's back in the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965.
00:50:48.180 He says this, the bill will not flood our cities with immigrants.
00:50:53.120 It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society.
00:50:56.220 It will not relax the standards of admission.
00:50:59.060 It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs.
00:51:02.180 Steve, every one of those things 60 years ago is an outright, in-your-face lie.
00:51:07.000 And the United States, as we saw from the clips that you had earlier, is living the consequences of that.
00:51:12.900 Never trust progressives when they bombard you over their head with platitudes, Steve.
00:51:20.500 Ben Harnwell, we'll see you in the morning.
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