Episode 3815： Election ‘Misinformation’ Is A Criminal Offense; Tim Walz Is Hardcore Marxist
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Summary
On this episode of The War Room, we're joined by The Federalist's Logan Greenblatt and The Huffington Post's Dana Nessel to discuss dark money, election misinformation, and why we should all be worried about it.
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There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech, and especially around our democracy.
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
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And where do people like that go to share the big line?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Natalie G. Winters hosting today, Wednesday, August 7th, in the year of our Lord 2024.
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We've got a packed show for you full of signal, not noise, whether it's misinformation, dark money, election spending,
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or Trevor Loudon walking through the Marxist ties of the Harris Walls ticket.
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To start, we're joined by the election supporter for The Federalist.
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Logan, you were with us a few days ago talking about how the Center for Tech and Civic Life,
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the sort of Zuckerberg, Zuckerbuck-linked organization, has revamped, sort of rebranded a little bit.
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But they're working the same way they did in the 2020 election to influence the results of, you guessed it, the 2024 election.
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There's an interesting corollary to it on the side of cracking down on misinformation.
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You had a story a few days ago with an interesting follow-up, which we'll get into,
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showing that in Michigan, the Secretary of State, Jocelyn Benson, is wanting neighbors to snitch on each other
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for those that dare to, what is it, spread election misinformation.
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Yeah, this is a crazy story, and one that I kind of stumbled on, because sometimes these officials think that they can get away with things like this.
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It was actually posted publicly on the Secretary of State's website that they are encouraging residents to report others for spreading election misinformation.
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They actually have a government email address that they encourage individuals to send reports of misinformation to.
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This is also kind of part of a new program that she announced toward the end of last month called the Democracy Ambassadors Program.
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It's kind of ironic that you'd be asking people to report their neighbors for misinformation in the name of democracy,
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They've really taken, they as in the state of Michigan, a lot of our officials,
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they've taken a strong stance against what they call misinformation,
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and we should be concerned about that because when we allow the government to start silencing misinformation,
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And that essentially means they can silence any speech that they disagree with or claim is false.
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And from that original document that you drew your reporting from,
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was there any insight into what constituted misinformation per the Secretary of State's office?
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They refer to it as misleading or inaccurate information,
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A lot of times opinions can fall under the guise of that,
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especially when it comes to the conduct of elections, as we saw in 2020.
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They specifically are focusing on so-called misinformation about the election process,
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That's really concerning because issues on the ballot are often subject to various opinions.
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And so, yeah, their guidance is not super clear and seems to be pretty subjective.
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And do you know if this is being replicated in any other states,
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how vast it is in terms of rolling this program out?
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We have no idea so far what other states this program is happening in,
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but it seems to be a large nationwide trend of trying to silence election misinformation.
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We know that groups like the Center for Tech and Civic Life are instrumental in instructing local election agencies
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how to combat this supposed election misinformation,
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not just in their communities, but also on social media,
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and how to use these supposed fact-checker groups.
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They offer public trainings on their website about things like that.
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And so this is very much part of a national trend,
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a coordinated effort to silence things called misinformation.
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And so we should be really keeping an eye on this as this could pick up across the country.
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And now walk us forward to, you know, today or yesterday,
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where you actually saw now Dana Nessel in Michigan,
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what is it, sending out cease and desist letters,
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to individuals who were sharing, quote-unquote, election misinformation.
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We just sort of stumbled across the call to report misinformation by chance.
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And then a few days later, it would come out that the Attorney General Dana Nessel in Michigan
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is actually sending letters apparently threatening citizens for spreading so-called—
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they called it misleading or false election information.
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It was great reporting on behalf of the Midwesterner and Detroit radio host Justin Barclay.
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They're the ones who initially broke the story, and they're great to work with.
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But we ended up actually getting in touch with the source ourselves at The Federalist,
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So Carrie Lynn Eliff is a resident near Kalamazoo,
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and she basically expressed concerns about the locality moving, pulling locations
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without telling the public, giving them enough time.
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But she received this letter from Dana Nessel, the AG here in Michigan,
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that essentially said that she should cease and desist
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spreading this false and misleading information, as they call it.
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the division chief of the criminal trials division,
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which I think shows how serious these threats are.
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but they're willing to back this up with action,
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And this individual, you said she was just expressing concern about moving,
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What was her sin that led her to getting a letter?
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Like you said, the buried lead there being that it's the criminal division
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Well, yeah, this was all over some Facebook posts.
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She posted a few times on Facebook with concerns.
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And of course, people can, social media is a very fluid place.
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And so we're very careful about what we say factually there.
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Um, but yes, this did originate from Facebook posts.
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She said, um, she feels that it originated from, um, posts on June 12th.
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basically telling her not just to stop spreading this, um,
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Um, she also said it was very difficult to figure out, um,
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how to challenge this because the letter never said that if there was an error,
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she should just reach out to, um, the AG's office.
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There was a phone number, but she was very clear that, um,
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you're not going to feel comfortable reaching out.
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And so, um, yeah, yeah, she was very concerned,
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but felt it was important to speak out about this.
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Before we let you go, can you just walk us through again,
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what we were covering a few days ago with your reporting on the center for tech
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and civic life, but more broadly, all these kinds of left-wing dark money,
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you know, they, they operate under the pretense of being bipartisan or nonpartisan,
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but, uh, they only seem to be operating right in Democrat heavy districts.
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hit us one more time with how that effort has been revamped.
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Yeah. So, um, the center for tech and civic life, um,
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they funneled 328 million roughly from Mark Zuckerberg to local election agencies in 2020.
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Um, that had the effect of boosting democratic turnout because it targeted,
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um, mostly democratic voting blocks and population centers.
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Um, and so what we're seeing now, they just announced another round of grants,
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but this time it's specifically to, um, rural and, um, non Metro jurisdictions.
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So what we're seeing here is an attempt to intervene in the local election administration process,
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because these grants not only fund election operations and get out the vote efforts,
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but they also enable these left wing third parties to have a hand in local election administration,
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um, all the while claiming they have good interests in mind and that they're nonpartisan.
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Um, it's also important to note while we're discussing Michigan, um, secretary of state Benson,
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the same one that encouraged reports of misinformation.
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She also recently met with David Becker, the head of the center for election innovation and research.
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Um, and they were discussing early voting, um, but it appears they're working together.
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Um, this other group is very important because it was one of the two groups along with CTCL that
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funneled suck bucks to local election agencies in 2020. So these election influencers are not going
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And in terms of the Republican response, whether it's the RNC state officials there,
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um, are you seeing any movement on trying to crack down at least when it comes to Michigan to,
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to counter this, what I always call legalized election fraud?
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So not in Michigan, um, across the country, various states, um, I think more than 20 states have,
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um, banned private funding of elections. Um, but you're not going to see things like that in,
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Um, but there are a lot of grassroots groups and nonprofits that are aiming to keep an eye on
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local election processes. And I think they're very important. Um, it's going to be at the
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grassroots level that you can keep an eye on local election offices. Um, and a lot of these, um,
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election officials, it's important to know are motivated by, by good intent. But, um, when you have
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partisan third, um, third party groups intervening in the process, um, that kind of throws a wrench
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in everything. And so, um, grassroots organizers and volunteers are very important here.
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Logan, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with your reporting on all things,
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So, um, you can follow me on Twitter at Logan Washburn 76. And as always the federalist website
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You know, you're bringing a good stories here to the war room when the first time we have you
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on real clear politics picks it up, forcing them to talk about election fraud. That's how
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we do it here in the war. Logan, thank you so much for joining us. We'll have you back on soon.
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Thanks for having me on the show or in posse. That right there is signal, not noise used to
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be. If you spread misinformation, you would just get censored, banned, you name it from social media
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platforms. Now they're sending you letters, not even from the civil division, from the criminal
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division with the secretary of state rolling out a very well-funded, I'm sure taxpayer subsidized
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program trying to get neighbors to snitch on each other because you dared to question,
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well, maybe it's weird that they're moving polling places. Maybe it's weird that they're
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bussing in tens of millions of illegal immigrants into this country. And that voter registration is
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off the hook and that you don't even need a signature or an ID to vote. Now, if you say those
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things, at least in the state of Michigan, I'm sure it'll multiply across the country, you're going to
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get fined and potentially thrown in jail for misinformation. That is lawfare at its finest, right?
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When you say they're not going for president Trump, they're not coming for people like
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Stephen K Bannon or Peter Navarro. They're coming for you. I think that story is a perfect example
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of that, right? What was president Trump and Steve Bannon and Peter K Navarro's original sin?
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They dared to question the election results in 2020. And as a result, look at the hell that broke
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loose on their personal lives, political lives, professional lives. That's what they're wanting
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to do to Americans now too. And thank you for the, the patriotism and just heroicness,
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I would say, of that individual who, who worked with the federalists on that story,
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they're taking desperate, desperate measures in desperate times, right? We'll be joined after the
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Welcome back to the war room where we have always warned against the sort of plug and play apparatus
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that they have on the democratic side of politics that we usually focus on it. In the financial realm,
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we've, of course, in the last few days really focused on sort of the electioneering, the election
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fraud aspect of that. In other words, it doesn't matter who's running, doesn't matter the quality
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of candidate, dead or alive, no pun intended, because they have, whether it's groups like CTCL,
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pressure campaigns against individuals who dare to speak out against just the abysmal administration
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of elections here in the United States. I say it's mean to the third world to say that we run elections
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like they do in the third world because I think they do it better there.
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Um, but it all comes back to what, what is, I think these dark money forces that masquerade as
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charities, masquerade as NGOs, masquerade, uh, frankly, as Democrat politicians and Soros backed
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AGs. Um, but so much of the problem here, right. When you start to see the, the same issues on whatever
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local or level of government rather, um, it's because they're all being funded and propped up
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right by the same people. And this concept of dark money, I think is something that I really want to
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charge ahead on, on this show because it is, as Steve has always said, the thing itself.
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And I'm honored to be joined by Parker Thayer from Capitol Research Center. Now you guys have done
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extremely, extremely diligent work, kind of drilling down on whether it's Arabella advisors,
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where the problem is so much bigger than just the trope of George Soros. Um, you have a great
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news story, particularly when it comes to the campaign for court reform, basically court packing,
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walking, um, walking through the kind of left wing financiers and ties to the Harris campaign
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behind all this. Can you walk us through your news story? Uh, yeah, sure. It's a new story,
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but in a lot of ways, it's also an old story. It's a profile of a group that some might've heard of,
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some might not, uh, called demand justice. It's what we like to call a dark money group or a 501c4,
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uh, uh, advocacy organization. Um, and what demand justice did, uh, many of, uh, many of your
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listeners might remember during the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation hearings, uh, Brett Kavanaugh's name
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was dragged through the mud needlessly and baselessly for weeks on end in the media. The
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ringleader of that entire media circus was demand justice. They had protesters out in the halls of
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Congress dressed as people, um, from the handmaid's tale. Uh, they had, they were pressuring Susan
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Collins and trying to get her to flip her vote. Um, they bought a website domain, stop Kavanaugh.com.
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Um, and all this at the time demand justice was a fiscally sponsored project or kind of a, a pop
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up front organization, uh, of the 1630 fund, which is of course, uh, the largest dark money 501c4, uh,
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that the left has, uh, and is controlled by the Arabella advisors network, which is the largest dark
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money network in the world period. They raise over a billion dollars a year and direct almost all of
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that money to far left political causes. Uh, a lot of it done through these, uh, fiscally sponsored
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project pop up groups. Uh, demand justice has since then, uh, spun off and just after the catastrophic,
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uh, debate performance, uh, that I think everyone agreed was, uh, not optimal from Joe Biden. Uh,
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the demand justice group jumped in and announced a $10 million ad campaign specifically focused
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on discrediting and undermining the Supreme court. They're going to try, uh, and they have been trying
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for a very long time, uh, to make court packing or, uh, expanding the Supreme court with an arbitrary
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number of justices, a mainstream issue instead of the radical fringe issue. It once was, uh,
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it is now the mainstream party platform as president Joe Biden came out and announced that he's supporting
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term limits, which is just a de facto way of packing the Supreme court. Um, and it all goes back to these,
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the dark money donors behind this, not liking the way the court rules.
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And can you walk us through some of the ties? Like you were saying, this is mainstream democratic
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politics, right? Some of the people involved have very high level roles now in the Harris campaign.
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Exactly. So demand justice, uh, back in its heyday was created by a guy named Brian Fallon. If that
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name sounds familiar to any of you, he's had a lot of jobs in democratic politics. He started out on the
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John Kerry presidential campaign, then moved over to be a campaign community grant communications
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director for Bob Menendez of all people. Uh, he scrubbed that from his LinkedIn. He doesn't
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want people to know that. Then he moved on and was with Chuck Schumer for nearly a decade as his
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lead communications director. And then he moved over to, uh, Hillary Clinton's campaign in 2016
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as the press secretary. Um, after that, uh, he moved over and created demand justice.
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Um, and since then he had demand justice, of course, made all of the Supreme court confirmations
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into media circuses and has made, uh, court packing into a mainstream political issue for
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the democratic party and the left. Um, but since then he has left demand justice. What is his new
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job? Well, it's the head of communications for vice, uh, then vice president Kamala Harris, but he has now
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become the head of a presidential campaign after Joe Biden withdrew, uh, very suddenly. Um, I would say
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the timing of a guy with Brian Fallon's credentials moving from his own pet dark money group to become
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the head of a vice president's communications campaign. It didn't make sense at the time.
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After buying withdrew, it started making a lot more sense, especially since one of, uh, his old,
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other old bosses was he was the head of PR for Eric Holder during the peak of all of his scandals,
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fast and furious, uh, and contempt of Congress. Um, Eric Holder just the other day we found out was
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the guy who vetted all of Kamala Harris's VP candidates. Um, and, and then presumably okayed
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Tim walls. Uh, you know, it's a very, it was a very suspicious move at the time I noticed.
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And I wrote this in my report. It didn't make a lot of sense, but it makes a lot of sense now.
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I want to know what Brian Fallon knew and when he knew it about the likelihood that Biden would
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withdraw from the campaign and that he'd find himself suddenly promoted to the head of a
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presidential campaign against Trump for the second time in his life.
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With all the happy talk that we hear from, from these people about how important
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democracy is while they're of course pushing lawfare. I, I, would you say that it is a fair
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charge to say that a lot of this dark money stuff, this manipulation of campaign financing,
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I think compounded on the other side of the coin with the sort of weird act blue stuff,
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the money laundering stuff that we've been starting to uncover that this is in and of itself,
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sort of another form of financial lawfare, right? The way that they're playing these
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legal kind of shell games with these organizations, these entities masquerading as bipartisan
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or independent when in reality they're not, can you sort of walk the audience through the larger
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network that is Arabella advisors, how this is so much bigger than just, you know, the one-off
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that is George Soros? Yeah, absolutely. So, demand justice is just one of the organizations that
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Arabella has created to attack the Supreme Court. Another organization by the name of Fix the Court,
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which I exposed for having major problems with its campaign or with its IRS tax disclosures,
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even though its main purpose is to advocate for more disclosure from the Supreme Court.
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You know, Fix the Court and Demand Justice, we're both, you know, turning all of our Supreme Court
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nomination processes into a complete media circus with wild speculation. And at the core of it
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is this Arabella Advisors organization, of course, even though it looks like there may be 10, 11,
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12 different organizations all advocating and supposedly there's broad public support for
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for something like Supreme Court term limits or Supreme Court financial disclosures or ethical
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regulation bodies that are somehow controlled by Congress. They're using the guise of, you know,
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concern for transparency and ethics, even though they're using very non-transparent methods to fund
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and advocate for all of these things. So, they're very focused supposedly on the idea of transparency,
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ethics and disclosure while not doing any of that themselves. And the reality is they don't,
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they couldn't care any less about ethics, transparency or disclosure. If you want proof
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of that, just look back the last 10 years before Demand Justice came onto the scene. No one was writing
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any stories about, you know, Clarence Thomas's trips or anything like that, even though those were
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already in the news. It's just people weren't concerned about that because we trust our Supreme Court
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system, we trust our constitutional system of government. You know, the sudden concern is
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simply because the court has started making rulings that the left does not like. And so they're reaching
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for any weapon they can to attack the Supreme Court and Arabelle advisors provided those weapons tenfold.
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And do you see any meaningful pushback, whether through legislation or whatever,
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coming from Republicans in a variety, whether it's elected officials, grassroots, what do you see?
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Yeah, people who are committed to the Constitution, who like the system that the founders set up in
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which the Supreme Court is one of the three main branches of government. People who are constitutional
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conservatives have been speaking up about this. They've been writing op-eds, they've been exposing the
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fact that these media smear campaigns against the Supreme Court are coordinated by one or two or three or
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four common donors using a handful of different organizations. You know, people are calling for the Supreme
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Court to get more protection after a failed assassination attempt. You know, I think it's been really
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healthy for the country. The response to this smear campaign, it hasn't worked, but it's going to continue.
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And with Demand Justice arming up another $10 million to try and discredit the Supreme Court,
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it's going to be a battle that has to keep being fought.
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And do you think, I'm just curious, in looking at this, is this something that is unique to the left?
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In other words, is the MAGA kind of faction of the right wing, when they say that, oh, you know,
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we're anti-democracy, do we fund our elections, our groups like that, or is it more genuinely grassroots?
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No, there are certainly conservative judicial advocacy organizations that do a lot of great work,
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and many of those organizations are doing a really good job of holding the left wing groups that are
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telling lies about the Supreme Court accountable. So I think it's one of those battles that conservatives
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are very, there are a lot of things that conservatives are not good at doing, particularly with the,
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you know, the more, less grassroots, more donor influenced parts of political advocacy.
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But the conservatives are very good, I think, in doing a great job so far of
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trying to protect the Supreme Court from existential threats.
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And Parker, if people want to follow you, read more of your reporting, where can they go to do that?
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Yeah, absolutely. I'm on Twitter, slash X, at Parker Thayer. You can also check out
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I'm sure no shortage of content. Parker, thank you so much for joining us.
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We'll be back after the break, joined by Trevor Loudon. You guys know there's also
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everything you just said, which is we're living in a moment in which, and I'm quoting a Twitter user I
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just saw named Riley. Tim Waltz is the dad and grandpa that Rush and Rupert stole from us.
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He's the family we lost when their personalities changed seemingly overnight. If the right-wing
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funded rage machine never existed, we would have had millions like him. They've broken so many
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families. I can't tell you how much that tweet that I just saw resonates with my reporting over
00:29:50.900
these years. We are living in a country in which millions and millions of people literally feel
00:29:56.340
like they have living dead family members who have been brainwashed into hatred and extremism.
00:30:02.340
And here's a guy who shows another way. The butter carving. I said yesterday, look,
00:30:07.620
everyone in America, regardless of your family structure, just got a new dad and he would like
00:30:11.460
you to have an orange. And this is someone who shows a different model of masculinity and a joyous
00:30:20.420
sense of the future. And I think it's very personally resonant for people who have struggled,
00:30:25.620
as I know so many have, with people lost to the tunnel of mega-extremism.
00:30:30.020
Their neighbor, and he uses that word a lot, neighbor, my neighbors. Talk to us about what
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you perceive to be the importance of Tim Waltz, Coach Waltz, on this ticket.
00:30:43.780
Yeah, I think it's a very significant moment. I think John Heilman is right that a lot of us in the
00:30:50.260
journalist or pundit class are maybe a little bit slow on the uptake of what this is because
00:30:57.700
we're used to an older paradigm. I think a lot of us were trained in a pre-authoritarian
00:31:02.740
republican moment, a pre-fascist republican playbook running against people like Mitt Romney.
00:31:10.260
And so strategies about swing states and those kinds of things came out of those experiences.
00:31:16.500
We are now in a moment when the right in this country is an authoritarian movement,
00:31:21.380
increasingly fascistic movement. And part of what you see in authoritarian movements around the world
00:31:26.660
is that they make people feel things, right? They make people emotional. They get the blood up.
00:31:34.340
And Democrats for too long have been running against authoritarianism with wonkiness, with policy,
00:31:40.180
with material things, with bridges and roads, all very worthy things, but not competing on the level
00:31:47.540
of getting the blood up, making people feel. And so I think this is a choice that shows, and as you've
00:31:53.700
seen throughout the last two weeks, this is a campaign that understands the importance of
00:31:58.420
vibes. Vibes can sound dismissive or like some Gen Z thing, but it's actually about competing against
00:32:03.060
authoritarianism when they are very directly targeting the limbic system of voters. And it's
00:32:08.980
actually Democrats joining the contest for people's hearts and not just appealing to the brain. And I
00:32:13.780
think when you talk about a figure like Coach Walls, obviously there were a bunch of good notes around
00:32:18.660
the freedom frame, patriotism, things like that. But the biggest significance of this man
00:32:24.020
is that he is an older white man in a moment in which the far right is trying to convince white people
00:32:30.340
that the future is treacherous for them, trying to convince men that the future is treacherous for them.
00:32:36.980
And here is an older white man, a coach, a soldier, who is very hard to dismiss as some kind of effect
00:32:46.260
coastal elite, who is telling older folks and white people, you do not need to be afraid of the future.
00:32:52.820
There is joy in the future. There is joy in having your boss be a black woman. There is joy in what is
00:32:58.820
coming. And I think he is going to teach lots of people, in addition to whatever role he plays in
00:33:03.780
an election and in the White House. He's going to teach lots of people through his role in the
00:33:07.540
culture that they're going to be OK and that there's joy on the far side of realizing a multiracial
00:33:13.780
democracy in this country. Of any cold open we've ever played, honestly, I think that may be the
00:33:20.020
worst one. Anand, I don't need to be taught by you or anyone else what it's like to have a boss who is
00:33:27.780
a black woman or what it's like to become a minority in the United States at the hands of
00:33:33.860
Tim Waltz or anyone else because of your horrific policy decisions trying to spin Tim Waltz as this,
00:33:40.420
you know, normal level headed guy who's who's so cool and we're the weird ones. I mean, he's telling
00:33:47.460
us that we need to be taught and by taught he means shut, sit down and shut up and take it
00:33:54.260
by, we're apparently the authoritarian ones, but we need to be lectured by our intellectual
00:34:00.100
superiors a la Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz, the latter being so deeply in bed with the Chinese
00:34:06.500
Communist Party that the former, who was so deeply in bed with, you know, Willie Brown, such an
00:34:12.580
intellectual there. But these are the people that we need to be taught and lectured by. I don't think
00:34:18.900
so. And that shows you, frankly, I think the buried lead there, and we'll have Trevor Loudon joining us
00:34:22.820
shortly. The fact that they're spinning Tim Waltz's race as a positive, that is MSNBC talking about a
00:34:31.140
white person positively, they're, you know, token white higher. I think that shows you just how
00:34:37.300
radical Kamala Harris is going to be on racial issues, just like Tim Waltz was so radical when
00:34:43.540
it came to the George Floyd riots. In other words, they know they need an old white dude who,
00:34:49.460
by the way, is only 60, but looks like he's a heck of a lot older than that. But I digress on that
00:34:53.780
point. But that they need someone like him to sort of tamp down and offset what is the wokeness,
00:35:00.340
which I have always maintained is just a euphemism for anti-whiteness of the Harris campaign.
00:35:07.540
And when I say anti-whiteness, I mean something much bigger. What is their rejection of the concept
00:35:11.940
of make America great again, because they never think America, they never thought it was great.
00:35:16.820
They don't think there's a past that's worth going back to, right? Whiteness represents that
00:35:21.780
and so much more to them. But I really think that that segment right there, besides being told that
00:35:27.620
we need to understand the joys of what it is like working for a black woman, I think that's
00:35:33.220
so offensive. Imagine saying that the other way around, you'd get kicked off of MSNBC for saying that.
00:35:38.740
But that shows you the side, the evilness that we're up against. People who think that you lost
00:35:47.780
family members and that you're the brainwashed one, that you're the crazy people that your families
00:35:52.340
can't handle, that you're the grandparents that you, you know, that were stolen from your grandchildren
00:35:57.060
because you dared to listen to Rush Limbaugh. I'm sorry, Anand, but who the heck are you? I've never
00:36:03.460
even heard of you before. I don't need to be taught anything by you and the people you're defending.
00:36:09.940
I don't want to be taught by them because they're Marxists to their core. Trevor Loudon, who did a
00:36:15.140
wonderful job kind of walking us through the Marxist ties of Kamala Harris, uh, joins us again.
00:36:21.220
Now, Trevor, I do want to kind of rehash the Kamala stuff developments on that front. But before we get
00:36:25.540
there, um, kind of give us your, your opening salvo on all of the concerning radical ties held by, uh,
00:36:32.500
the man who's going to teach us what it's like to be, uh, white in the United States, Tim Waltz.
00:36:39.140
Well, Kamala Harris is a Marxist with extensive ties to pro Chinese communists. Tim Waltz is a Marxist
00:36:47.860
with extensive ties, 40 years of ties directly to the Chinese Communist Party, more than any other
00:36:56.660
serving U.S. politician. You couldn't have picked a more Chinese pro-China pro-Mao politician in the
00:37:05.060
country than Tim Waltz. So on, on the Harris front and the Tim Waltz, it seems sort of like a match made
00:37:14.260
in hell right on the, the China front. But can you walk us through some of Waltz's Chinese, Chinese
00:37:21.220
ties? Yeah. Well, look, he started out going there and look, he was a young national guardsman,
00:37:27.620
you know, good start in life. He was in the national guard, joined at 17. But in his early twenties,
00:37:33.380
he was selected by Harvard program to go to China to study, to teach at a high school in Guangdong
00:37:40.500
province. This was right when Tiananmen Square was going on by the way that he was there.
00:37:46.420
A few years later, he started a company with his wife, with Chinese money, government money,
00:37:55.140
to bring regular delegations of Minnesota youth to China. He did this from about 1993,
00:38:03.860
right up to 2005, just before he became a Congress member. And these young kids were taken to
00:38:10.340
universities. They were, they were, they were told by him to de-emphasize their American-ness,
00:38:18.420
to, to not offend their Chinese hosts. And this was a Chinese propaganda operation subsidized by the
00:38:27.620
Communist Party. And Tim Waltz was making money off this. He also taught at a university in Macau for
00:38:35.780
several years as a visiting lecturer. Now, common sense tells you that the Chinese are interested in
00:38:44.260
American military people. They would have known he had a military background. They would have known he
00:38:50.740
could get some influence in the US military. They would have been interested in him from an intelligence
00:38:57.300
background from day one. And they were right because he served on the armed services committee.
00:39:04.660
You know, this man who, who couldn't pass a background check to drive a school bus,
00:39:10.900
who would not be allowed to work for the defense department or, you know, the state department was
00:39:17.380
serving on the armed services committee with this extensive background to China. But it doesn't even stop
00:39:25.220
there. You know, he, he was regularly propagandized for China. When Trump was trying to stop
00:39:32.180
trade with China, Tim Waltz was using the Minnesota soybean trade to, to propagandize,
00:39:40.180
we need to keep the agricultural trade going. So he was deliberately countering Trump's policies on trade there.
00:39:48.580
And he was, um, in 2019, he was a guest speaker at a conference run by the US China Friendship
00:39:59.380
Association, which is an old, old communist front that was started in the 1970s. But the, the speaker next
00:40:09.380
to him was Li Xiaolin, the former, the daughter of the former Chinese president under Xi Xi, under Xi,
00:40:20.180
what I can never say, Ding Xiaoping. This woman is Chinese royalty. She's a Chinese princess,
00:40:26.660
a leader of the Chinese Communist Party's National Consultative Committee, which is the main propaganda
00:40:34.180
arm of the Chinese Communist Party. But he was right there. That shows the regard that pro-Chinese
00:40:41.140
communists hold this man in. And when he was governor of Minnesota, when the George Floyd riots were going
00:40:50.820
on, which were organized by pro-Chinese communists from the Freedom Road Socialist Organization, burning
00:40:58.980
his capital, his city down, he held the National Guard off for three, for three days so they could
00:41:06.020
complete their job. But this guy is his Midwestern values. He's a coach. He's, it looks like a grandfather,
00:41:13.940
right? The guy is, if not a fully recruited Chinese agent, at the very least, he is not a fully recruited
00:41:24.580
Chinese agent of influence. At the very least, he is a Chinese dupe of the most extreme degree.
00:41:33.860
I always say with the Chinese Communist Party influence stuff, their, their efforts, their outreach programs
00:41:39.540
are radioactive, right? And that once you kind of go CCP, you, uh, you don't go back once they have them, uh,
00:41:45.780
or have you in their claws, right? It's like dealing with the mafia. Once they got their hooks and you do,
00:41:51.540
they do not let you go. Or at least you don't live to tell about it. No, you don't. And
00:41:57.780
congratulations for finding that thing about the, uh, the meeting he attended in 2019. Actually,
00:42:03.940
that put a lot of things together, but that's right. Look, they would have had an interest in him
00:42:09.860
for 40 years. You cannot tell me there was no opportunity to blackmail that man during that time,
00:42:16.340
or that they even had to blackmail him because he's clearly so sympathetic to China, um, and, and,
00:42:23.940
and propagandizes for them every single opportunity he can get. Um, I don't think they even had to,
00:42:33.460
would have even had to have blackmailed him. I just think he is more sympathetic to China than he is to
00:42:38.980
the United States. It's an ideological compromise, which I think is compounded by the actual, and Trevor,
00:42:45.140
we're going to bounce to break, but I want to hold you through to rehash some of the,
00:42:48.180
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Welcome back to the war room. Getting a lot of reception to what I was talking about with that
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previous MSNBC clip. You can go to my Twitter. I have some threads and corresponding posts kind
00:44:58.020
of walking through more of that logic train. And like Trevor alluded to, I did break that story of
00:45:04.900
the Chinese Communist Party ties of Tim Waltz speaking at that event alongside, you know,
00:45:11.700
casually the daughter of a former Chinese Communist Party premier. I'm sure no national security
00:45:17.060
issues there. Although I guess maybe Hunter Biden normalized it. So maybe we don't,
00:45:21.220
maybe we don't care anymore. But I think we do. Something tells me we do. And we should,
00:45:25.140
right, Trevor? Walk us through the latest. I know you're sort of working on a new project
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documenting the far left ties of Kamala Harris. Kind of repackage it for us.
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Yeah, well, look, I've got a new book coming out. It's called Kamala Harris's Communist
00:45:39.680
Roots. And people can go to my website, TrevorLoudon.com, order it. It'll be coming up pretty soon.
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We'll have a release date shortly. But it goes right into her red diaper baby background,
00:45:53.600
her parents, her Marxist parents, the Marxist organization she was attending as an elementary
00:46:01.240
school child, her deep ties to the communist sympathizer, Willie Brown, and of that,
00:46:11.100
her ties to Black Lives Matter, the Maoist networks in the Bay Area, connections to storm that Van Jones
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came out of standing together to organize a revolutionary movement. But most of all,
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her ties to Steve Phillips, the former Stanford University Maoist, who married into the one of
00:46:35.780
the richest families of San Francisco, the Golden West savings and loan fortune, and has used that
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money working with George Soros and other people in the so-called Democracy Alliance to elect radical
00:46:51.380
candidates of color, starting with Barack Obama, attempted to elect Andrew Gilliman, Florida,
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Stacey Abrams in Georgia, and at every step of her career, Kamala Harris. So we're going to deal with
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Kamala's Maoist outlook. It's not even Marxist. It's Maoist outlook from her baby carriage days
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right up to the present time. They haven't changed. She is deeply steeped in this. But I think the
00:47:28.260
evidence we will produce will shock even many very well-seasoned political commentators. She is deep
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in this stuff. But what people don't understand, how deeply she is a manufactured candidate,
00:47:43.040
manufactured by a Maoist clique that helped to get Barack Obama ahead of Hillary Clinton,
00:47:50.040
that almost elected governors in several states, and was also very instrumental in Black Lives Matter,
00:48:00.020
the rioting of 2020, and the Chinese-backed, Chinese-influenced voter registration organizations
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that boast they won the 2020 election for Joe Biden, that boast they won the key states for Biden. So
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this is a whole bunch of information that most Americans just will have very little idea of.
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So trevorloudon.com, place to go for Kamala Harris's communist roots.
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Trevor, thank you so much for joining us. We'll have you back on soon as I'm sure more of those
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communist roots, ties, and as they manifest in the form of policy proposals continue to come out
00:48:43.240
from that side. While calling us weird. Trevor, thank you so much for joining us.
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While calling us weird. Thanks so much, Natalie, and thanks to all of the viewers.
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Of course. Proudly weird here in the war room. Another man who I'm sure wears the weird label with
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pride is Mike Lindell. Mike, Minnesota, Tim Waltz, you have a lot of thoughts there.
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So you can start with that. Hit us with the pillow discounts. I defer to you.
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Yeah. Well, you know, like I said, like the real president said, thanks. This is a gift,
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everybody. You've got Waltz on there who makes Kamala Harris look like a moderate. If you really
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dig into it, everybody, I've lived it. Okay. He, the stuff he has done, and I'm not just fuck the
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