Episode 3817： No Faith In God Breeds Marxism
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In this episode, we have Megan Basham join us to talk about her new book, Shepherds for Sale. She is a best-selling author and a frequent contributor to the New York Times best-seller. She has been a long-time member of the conservative Christian movement and is a regular contributor to conservative publications such as The Weekly Standard, The Christian Science Monitor, and The Daily Caller. She is also a frequent guest on conservative media outlets such as CNN and Fox News.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to
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medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people
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the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you've tried
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to do everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen
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and where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any
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of these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that
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answer is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
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back in the war room dave bratt sitting in for the great stephen k bannon uh our honor privilege to
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have megan basham in the house with us today uh she's written a new york times bestseller uh shepherds
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for sale uh for those not familiar with the term shepherd of course jesus is the great shepherd
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and the pastors in the churches are supposed to be the shepherds who guide and care and love
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uh for their sheep instead some of the shepherds are being funded by the left i could give several
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stories i know where people have gotten a million dollar check and all of a sudden the homilies and
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the sermons and the lessons on immigration have shifted uh from rule of law and and and uh you know
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u.s constitutional uh beliefs to uh straight on open borders marxist teachings etc uh and so megan uh you
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you tallied up many of these huge foundations that used to affect me in academia as well
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and those billionaires can put huge pressure on academic institutions uh and so uh why don't you
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name a few of those again and then what is the philosophy what's their underlying worldview and
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what are they really trying to push at the end of the day and using the churches to do so
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well i'm glad you brought up academic institutions because this is exactly the same model that we saw
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there we saw that march through the institutions and now they are coming to the church and that's to be
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expected because it's a it's a captive audience where people go to learn how to live their lives
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so to give you just one example um george soros's open society foundation has been instrumental
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in backing uh an evangelical front group called the evangelical immigration table that pushes the very
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kind of open border policies that you just mentioned for instance they lobbied against trump's uh remain
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in mexico policy and they wrote a public letter signed by a lot of well-known pastors and ministry
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leaders to get the biden administration to end that policy he did we can now see what has happened you
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could ask the families of people like lake and riley uh what the result of that has been and you see
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that on any number of initiatives and their reason for doing that is one george soros has been
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completely transparent that he wants open borders they want a a global rule so they want us answering
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to the european union to the wef the same way so many of those european cultures do and part of that
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is to break down the sovereignty of nations and he has been explicit in that so what they have now done
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is they have harnessed the power of these pulpits in order to try to get that message out to get the
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power of these evangelical leaders in the hopes that it will trickle down to the rank and file in the
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pews and what i really want to say is that this is not new if you go back to the 1930s 40s 50s you see
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the communist party usa doing the exact same thing with the evangelical mainline institutions that were
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dominant at the time they would take christian lingo and christian jargon to try to suppress that christian
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vote to try to suppress their influence in the public square and that's the exact same thing
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that we see them doing today and part of what they're doing is appealing to pluralism saying well
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christians need to not be divisive they need to not culture war by which they mean you need to not stand
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for that which is morally good in the civic sphere and when we do that well scripture has something to
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say about that and what it has to say is that if we see what is good and we see what is right and we
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refuse to do it then we're in sin so what they're really trying to do is suppress the consciences
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of evangelical voters and evangelical christians yep no that's exactly right i've been reading a book
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by r.r reno called return of the strong gods and he goes back to the open society and its enemies by
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popper and then by soros and it's fairly stunning right that the open society is open to who they want
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to be open to uh they're not open to about seven billion people on this planet uh who live religious
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lives uh right they're only open to the secular folks like you say the atheists are open to but
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the religious people they're absolutely close to russian culture china culture certainly christians
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jews uh muslims confucians buddhists etc uh and so you're spot on and uh it it's up to the american
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people uh to recognize this that's why these these shows on the war room are so essential what what
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megan is sharing with you is just pure gold uh right here uh and so megan uh lift up the spirits
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of the folks uh give them some sense of urgency uh why is it so important for christians to vote a lot
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of young evangelicals sometimes say well jesus didn't do politics and and politics is dirty business
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uh and so you know christians shouldn't be involved uh in in uh the political sphere uh what does god
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and the bible and what do you have to say uh in response uh to get to get our energy level up
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well what i would have to say is that you have to notice the little trick there and what they're doing
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is taking biblical imperatives and moral issues and they're trying to tarnish them by saying oh that's
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a political issue whether we destroy the bodies of young children with uh gender indoctrination
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and mutilation that is a moral issue and we can be certain that jesus would have something to say
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about that and what we know is that we are commanded to rescue those being led away to death and we live
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in a representative republic where our vote is one way we can do that so i would say if you are refusing
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to participate in that system to use your vote and your voice and the power that is invested in you
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in this democratic republic then you are failing to rescue those being led away to death you are failing
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to protect the innocent and i do believe that you'll be held to account for that
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yep i agree with you and uh so does god and the the hebrew uh scripture and the holy bible uh and
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every other uh faith tradition even our even our great predecessors the greeks just by human reason
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uh talked about the afterlife and they knew there had to be judgment in the afterlife right socrates and
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plato and aristotle all reached similar conclusions just by reason alone and then we you know we're
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treated to you know special revelation in our tradition uh and speaking of traditions the left also plays
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a little trick i like the word you just use with the trick uh the uh the left plays a trick you know
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they're against uh christianity they say there's this wall of separation which of course there is not
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and all of our founders uh wrote and the christians if anything they're guilty of being too
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too tolerant uh of the of the marxist position over time uh but the left can never name their worldview
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or philosophy or theology and we got nothing to debate they just say we're for this secular thing
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right and so i'm just interested in your comments right if the new york times is writing or the
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washington post or the atlantic uh they'll talk about the term good uh but that's precisely the
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question of the entire uh judeo-christian west what is it to be good right i i used to teach
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alistair mcintyre aristotelian guy and he gave a great story on the greeks right and uh there's a
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famous phrase uh uh you know the the greek king uh good though you are right this was in the uh with
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brad pitt in the iliad i think a good king though you are don't rape that slave girl brisius
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right and so good in the greek tradition meant you're the king you're good period no matter what
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you do right even if you rape the slave girl brisius you're still morally good people don't
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understand there are very different debates on what human goodness entails uh we certainly reject that
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view uh and so what do you make of this trick the left place talking about well we're secular when
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secular has no meaning right and you know i i think what you have to look at is the fact that it is a
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very postmodern ideal where they have no fixed uh understanding of what moral good is other than
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what allows them to seize more power and if they're telling us okay here's the best way to live your life
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and it is this marxist collective idea of what is good but of course that never works out in the real
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life because as paul kanger says uh communism is where socialists go to heaven it never actually works
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on on the uh physical plane and that's what we see with these guys is that they don't want to engage
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with how these policies ultimately impact people because they know that while it gives them power it's
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incredibly destructive to the vast majority of the human population so when we look at that um i always
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want to just let people know that what they're doing is they're stealing your language and they're
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smuggling in this ideology under jargon like um with immigration they will say welcome the stranger
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or love your neighbor but what they fail to see is how incredibly damaging it is to your citizen neighbor
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to have their housing prices driven up to have their um uh gas prices go up to to to have crime in their
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streets and sex trafficking on their border so these things are incredibly destructive things but it's
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really about a will to power with the left it is not about a transcendent moral good and if it was
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you would not have all of these secularists who by the way do not believe in the god of the bible they do
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not believe in jesus christ they do not believe in the judeo-christian tradition what they're doing is
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taking it and trying to smuggle their ideology into it in this sort of syncretistic merging and that's what
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they're doing because they do not believe in these things they're atheists uh sometimes they are east
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eastern mystics but they don't actually believe in what these churches and christian institutions teach
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they are just infiltrating them to use them for their purposes
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yeah very well said uh it's uh interesting the marxist right and the neo-marxist uh we've been
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pointing out on this show this sexual mutilation of children whatever the marxist wouldn't uh even think
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about doing that to their own people right in russia and china they save that for the traditions they
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want to destroy so when you see those teachings uh surfacing over here you know you've got a real
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uh problem on your hands uh and marxism right we used to you know too many ceos and whatever they say
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well it's cute you know you're my kids go off to these elite schools and elite schools and they learn
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this marxist stuff and isn't that cute uh now it's not so cute anymore uh and we're learning uh what
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marxism really is right materialism uh no belief in god uh but for the secular folks listening out there
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so you you know you may be concerned with a few of these other issues uh if you're not uh religious
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marxism also rejects uh human rights language right human rights do not have any existence on their own
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right matter in motion it's a bunch of molecules there's no no such thing as rights that uh are
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out there civil rights uh minority rights women's rights none of those exist and in marxist societies
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you clearly see that play out uh and so going back to your book again megan uh how in the world
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these shepherds are clergy shepherds for sale just going back to your title it's so brilliant and so
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powerful uh what is going on who is being bought off and who are these people in these weaker strands
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of these religious traditions uh that are being bought and paid for that's evidence of moral culpability
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right there yeah so i already mentioned um the evangelical immigration table and some of the
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once trusted organizations that uh these leftists are now wearing like a skin suit you could say because
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uh people may not be aware of how they've been compromised are groups like
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the national association of evangelicals which represents some 45 000 churches in dozens of
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different denominations it was once so conservative that ronald reagan gave his 1983 uh evil empire
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speech at its national convention but now they are completely sold out to a leftist agenda
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um they are partnering with groups like the evangelical immigration table that is pushing open borders that
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has been funded by george soros and other left-wing groups um you also see this with the council for
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christian colleges and universities i'm told that it has a newly minted president who is hopefully set
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on reform but what i can tell you is in recent years they have done everything they can to destroy
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religious liberty on the question of uh protecting churches and ministries who want to adhere to
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biblical morality on questions of sex gender and marriage uh there are and so you have other groups
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like a christianity today which i mentioned which has been sold out now it's taking money
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millions from a left-wing foundation uh its editor-in-chief russell moore is one who helped create this
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curriculum with new york times writer david french who though he claims to be a conservative
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just announced in the last couple of days he will be voting for kamala harris um so these are the
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people that are taking money from left-wing foundations to promote their ideology into once
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trusted evangelical institutions and ministries with the hopes that the people sitting in the pews
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who only know the name won't trust this or won't won't realize what's going on and they'll be taken in
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yeah megan bashham shepherds for sale everybody go read it uh thank you for being on uh with us
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today just a clarion call uh most christians just want to live simple lives uh go to work take care
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of their family uh be honest worship god uh and they're being duped by shepherds for sale a true
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dave bratt back in the war room with great stephen k bannon uh honored and privileged uh welcome what one of
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my uh long-standing friends uh he goes way back uh james golden otherwise known as bo snurdly
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uh the producer of the rush limbaugh show uh but this this uh gentleman has such great breadth and
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width and wisdom uh and i just love hearing from him but we we've been talking for years he's doing
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great work uh down in florida and across the country on education reform uh and i shared with
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them the other day that link from the i think it was the illinois policy institute on the chicago
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reading scores 12 of the poor kids in chicago uh can read at great level grade level in the third
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and fourth grades and so uh james uh great to have you in the war room one of the great producers in
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case people don't know james produced uh the one of the greatest shows uh in the history of media
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and so honored to have you on and uh why don't you share what you think about these education
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issues that are plaguing our cities and our kids and what you're doing about it welcome james well
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thank you dave you know what it's really amazing to me that we had just a week ago about a week ago we
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heard the black journalist association of course with donald trump in chicago another city where education
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has been failing for decades and not once did any of these hosts uh that were there bring up the
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failure of american education yeah you shared the yeah and right in their own city but you look at
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what baltimore uh just did earlier in the year it was announced that what almost over 90 percent
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90 percent of the kids that are coming through baltimore schools are failing when it comes to
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understanding math understanding reading these are basics what are the schools focused on in these blue
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cities they're focused on whether you can use the right pronouns or not whether you have the right
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to become or say whatever gender you are the basics the very basics that will allow these kids to grow up
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and to be functional in their own lives and as american citizens the fundamental task of educating
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children to prepare them for adulthood is being failed in almost every single blue city across america
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in new york city there are chronically over 200 failing schools this goes back regardless
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of which administration is in power it is systemic it goes back and so we as a society sit back we
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wonder how come so many of these kids coming from the inner cities end up in jail what they the left is
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fond of talking about this pipeline that's created from schools to the jail well they're created from
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failing schools into jails they're created when entire generations of children grow up without the
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fundamental ability to hold a job because they don't understand the basic skills that it takes to hold a job
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how to read how to write how to speak english in a way that they can be understood this is to me the biggest
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civil rights struggle in america and it is one which the democrat party is absent from the table
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so what has to happen yeah i'm very involved in in alternative education charter schools yes
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uh for profit charter schools yes where there is incentive for the schools to perform
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and to teach based on the fact that they are responsible to the parents and the parents are
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paying them money so that they can demand results from these schools instead of this idea of government
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schools so what are we seeing in the presidential dave and i'm sorry to just continue but you asked me
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what do you see go that's what i want to know what's the incentives what's the incentives right
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the one of the incentives if you if you're going for the democrats in in this election cycle yeah
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kamala house has already signed on with the teachers unions the teachers unions are running on the idea
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that they don't want to give parents a choice in educating their own children this is an issue
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for many people it is not as important as the economic issue in our country is not as important
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as open borders to my way of thinking dave this has to be equal to the issues that are facing america and
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that we're not going to solve this in one election cycle it's not going to be solved in two elections
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like yeah but there has to be a sustained effort for us conservatives not to abandon education
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in american cities because if we do we are making sure that we will continue down this path of destruction
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that we've been on for the last 20 30 40 years this is an issue that conservatives have to take on
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yep well said james and uh so just to get to the obvious uh at the end of that uh do you see any
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movement in virginia youngkin uh ran for governor uh due to outrage up in loudon county over some of
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the sexual uh uh predatory actions taken up on our kids in virginia are you seeing any of those
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trends i mean the people can take charge it's very hard right people can vote out terrible school
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boards yep go ahead go ahead fire away this kid that was that that whole case sparked from
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had sexually abused two girls do you know that he has been released he's not even in being held
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accountable in the penal system he's been released yep and this is exactly even in virginia where there
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is such a this is where the anti where the anti-liberal backlash actually started because the father was
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dragged out of a school board meeting and and really almost treated like a criminal for trying
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to defend his daughter that was raped by a transgendered male or female like what whichever
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one it is it it's insane so yeah but this is spreading so what we have to do david again
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is very very clear the republican party has to be unafraid to stand tall for the idea that parents
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no matter where they are in america have the absolute right to choose where their kids are
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educated period and how we support these parents whether it be through the use of vouchers whether
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it be through uh through any other policy that would allow parents to have that choice this is something
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that conservative america has to get behind if we want our country to be fundamentally strong
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yep james i just wanted to bring you on because you know i always treat this stuff from an economic
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standpoint and human capital and the kids are one third of the economy they are the future economy
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and the old liberals she used to be able to count on the old liberals to care about kids
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and about foreign policy and about censorship right the old liberals are gone uh and now we got
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these crazy far left marxists and so i just wanted to bring the issue up again there's nobody better you
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spent your your second half right the second half of your uh great uh life working on behalf of the kids
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now so how do people reach out to you and contact you and support you yep go ahead james well you know
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what dave i'm on the air for six days a week on wabc in new york so i'm still doing radio as a career
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show is going great but what people can do um i i'm involved with a few things uh new journey pack is
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one i have a political action committee that advocates for this new journey pack dot org is one
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um but i'm also you know people have to organize you know we used to laugh at the democrats i think i
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remember the years we call obama organizer and chief people laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh
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but if you look at how the democrats have put a stranglehold on american american education
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it is through edu it is through their organizational and because because people do have to do this
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they have to band together this is not something the government can fix this has to be fixed by
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individuals banding together and not only demanding change but holding people accountable when they
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don't change and i'll say this too the work that you do at liberty is also so important i've been there
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i've seen it i see you see students from every background black white asian whatever every background
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in america attending there and these kids that are coming through there are not only being educated
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well they also have a moral foundation a moral component to it and do we ever need that and
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you've done incredible work there and you're continuing to do it and that is part of the
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solution dave yep well i look forward to continuing work with you james thanks for coming on the war room
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uh you've been a blessing to our country keep up the great work and i hope to see you soon god bless you
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my friend dave thank you so much man love you thank you so much dave love you back love you back
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all right james golden uh look him up he's doing great work down in florida and across the country
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i'm glad he gave a shout out uh to liberty there uh he he's come up and spent time with our students
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and uh you know i was dean of the business school for four years uh and in that time you know the left
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always uh mocks us the christians they mock uh the conservatives they mock whatever i never heard
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one racist sexist nasty remark instead our kids they got the good book open in the morning
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they're journaling they're reading uh they love their neighbor as their self and so uh james you
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know just giving a great shout out to liberty university uh very proud of our students here
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unfortunately it is the way uh we communicate and move through the world on a daily basis uh and so
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aaron welcome to the war room and uh why don't you just lead us through uh the product and the need
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for the product uh and we'll just uh have a short conversation because i i find this uh fascinating
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and i want to get a faraday bag myself yeah we got to get you equipped not a problem um so yeah
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faraday cages faraday bags there there have been around for a long time silent does it a little bit
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differently we make a really cool comprehensive line of um signal blocking faraday sleeves that
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because um you know we're walking around in the world just being harvested
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it's a direct threat to our first and fourth amendment um and i think people are like go over
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that aaron go over that a little bit because some of the folks aren't techies like you this harvested
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idea what does that mean well um i mean eric prince said it on an interview recently but um you know
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there's people walking around and i'm not calling that you know everyone's sheep but there's a way to
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live where you're a little bit more agile and you're a little bit more aware of reality as it
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being plugged into big data it's nearly impossible to escape so that's you know google apple um microsoft
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the big boys um and the the internet service providers you know they're they're they're big too so
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it's essentially anything you do in life from a smartphone you are being like an entire profile is
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built on you and the amount of data that any individual has is like astonishing and it's
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really scary and some people say well i got nothing to hide uh why do i care about that and
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those are the naysayers that understand that if they're a contributing member to society and they
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have a place in this country then they have their own duty to protect that data and kind of curb it
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and do anything they can a faraday bag is just a really simple tool to curb a very technical over
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complicated um world that we live in so yeah yeah give us an example of that profile uh when they build
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a profile on you what kind of information can they uh vacuum up that people might not be aware of
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i mean for one example like data brokers if i wanted to put a geofence around your entire office
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or neighborhood wherever you're at yeah i could collect all the i could buy all the data for every
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information and even like are they approachable you know what's their enneagram like you know full
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psychological understanding so you know they're bad actors in the world and we're all kind of
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targets some more than others so if you're not doing anything about it then it's time to think
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about doing something about it and while everyone can't afford and have access to like a crazy
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encrypted phone which is pretty cumbersome to be honest um having a faraday bag like the one i showed
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before allows you to drop inside your devices whether it's a phone or a laptop and a tablet your keys to
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your key um to your car there's big car theft they're relay attacks um if you have access to these then
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you're you're a step in the right direction to have more ownership over your privacy your security
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and as well as your health or it's a epidemic you know smartphones are amazing there could be
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hilarious you can see the funniest thing you've ever seen on your phone but at the same time you're
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sacrificing so much so there's a balance to be struck there and silence stands on three pillars of
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all right aaron czar thanks for being with us uh war room please support aaron and his product line
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they support the war room and they're good aaron i'm an economist so i always like to think in terms
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of efficiency and the low hanging fruit uh first give if if the average person listening to you right
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now wants to do two things uh to mitigate and lower their risk what would you advise them what are the
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it's a step in the right direction very good well said aaron zara thanks for being with us
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war room posse uh please go check out the product silent faraday bags i'm getting one for real i got
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very much for joining us today aaron glad to have you on all right war room we're going to go to a
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peter mcelvenna in europe right now uh kind of a mix we're having a fun conversation uh over the break
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uh who's leading who uh we kind of reached uh consensus that europe is leading the day
00:37:07.400
going in the wrong direction uh but we're not far behind and we're beating them in a few categories so
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peter bring us up to speed what's happening in the uk uh and what should we be on the lookout for
00:37:18.560
uh in terms of all the issues you're dealing with censorship uh being beat down by uh the deep
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states uh etc glad to have you on peter oh it's great to be here let me fill you in but let me
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just first say this what i love about war room being on with different guests and it shows what
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steve has built up and even just today i've already ordered shepherds for sale and looking into that and
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i've got two farty bags so it's essential so i love what war room always bring there never is a dull
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episode but let me tell you what's happening in the uk we've had these riots that have kicked off
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from last monday um and it was on on monday with jason discussing it um and it's it's got much worse
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in the government clamping down and the government of course never uh need an excuse to clamp down on
00:38:06.180
our freedoms to restrict us further um and they are using this to restrict us we are i think we had
00:38:13.200
500 individuals now arrested um for these demonstrations with about 50 of them charged now that's
00:38:21.540
in two days now our british legal system is currently running at five to six months to process anything
00:38:27.680
so if a rapist or a murderer uh the the individual who murdered three girls that sparked off a lot of
00:38:34.620
this unrest last week monday last week it's a five month until he actually goes for his trial but yet our
00:38:42.620
courts in two days can get people sentenced for naughty things on facebook's we have the rising
00:38:49.240
concern of the uk government same as what's happening in europe and you obviously will have
00:38:53.600
exactly the same in the us trying to clamp down on conversations a huge fear on telegram of signal
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um real concern obviously on twitter and you see elon musk has really gone head to head with
00:39:05.740
keir stammer who's the the new british prime minister far left prime minister um and uh elon has gone
00:39:12.840
toe-to-to-toe with him highlighting what's happening and when we had a uh government minister
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the head uh the public the head of public prosecutions in the uk one of the key legal
00:39:24.960
individuals in the uk and he said that if you repost something on twitter you could be breaking the law
00:39:31.840
and maybe arrested for that because you're spreading hit and what does elon do elon just starts
00:39:37.640
reposting tons of videos and it's like bring it on and i love that attitude but we are in a
00:39:42.940
a massive clash we had an individual um i just it's it's happening non-stop but we had an individual
00:39:50.280
and he was arrested and charged for 28 months for gesticulating and shot him at a police officer
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now i am gesticulating using my hands as an expression and if i raise my voice it could be shouting
00:40:04.700
but two and a half years in jail for gesticulating and shouting that's where we currently are and of
00:40:11.940
course there's no legislation that says that our our government can do this but they are using
00:40:17.400
carefully worded terrorism legislation because they say this is terror and carefully worded legislation
00:40:24.460
on restricting the spread of misinformation is obviously the term we all know well um and they
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are using this to clamp down so it's really concerning and it is attack on citizen journalism
00:40:36.560
and free speech online and of course siding with the mainstream media and our legacy media
00:40:43.100
yeah yeah peter that uh that story uh resonates uh with us over here in the war room uh without
00:40:51.720
getting too detailed uh you know in the united states we've had uh mike benzen on uh and we've had
00:40:59.300
legislation we've changed the actual definitions for democracy instead of we the people uh here uh in law
00:41:07.140
to the uh processes and institutions so that dhs and some of our executive branch uh entities uh can use
00:41:16.520
these changes in laws we changed tweets uh we made tweets into cyber events and cyber events are regulated
00:41:24.540
by dhs uh and so we've had people arrested and hundreds of millions without exaggerating hundreds
00:41:31.220
of millions uh of tweets censored underneath that legislation brought to us by our executive branch
00:41:38.560
how does it work uh in the uk uh is it is it you know we have the constitution here and so you know
00:41:46.000
that's our we all think in terms of that structure uh in the uk how do we think about that just in brief
00:41:52.760
and then you know if it's similar to other uh you know the netherlands others we know are under
00:41:57.860
similar attack just sketch that out for us briefly so we can understand that well we don't have the
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free speech protections that you have afforded in your constitution we don't have that so we are all
00:42:09.140
at sea with zero protection for what we say in the uk and generally for most european countries
00:42:16.400
um so that's where we are moving and i mentioned the individual charge for two and a half years
00:42:23.200
for waving his arms around and shouting yet we have a labor politician calling for those on the right to
00:42:29.900
have their throats slit and killed no problem with that you can say that on a microphone and yet there's
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no rush to arrest so we are having massive clamp down as we're having across europe and this is our
00:42:42.100
online safety bill which is a piece of legislation that was put in late last year we don't know how
00:42:47.580
that is going to actually be policed but that is policing the internet on a level that we haven't
00:42:52.100
known since the start of the internet and the definition that the levels of that can be used for
00:42:57.860
the bar is set so low so it is anything that's anyone may find offensive um and it's anything peter
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yep we're gonna we're gonna jump to break uh peter mackalvana back with us after the break uh and we
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back in the war room dave bratt sitting in with the great stephen k bannon our guest peter mckelvenna
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representing all of europe single-handedly peter thanks for being with us he's been giving us
00:44:53.660
overview of some of the uh you know two-tiered justice department uh problems we got in the u.s
00:44:59.840
giving the receipts giving examples uh similarities in other european countries uh we were talking
00:45:08.260
offline a little bit you know i've been over there a couple times and the the english people are such a
00:45:12.860
decent people uh the cabbies will scold you if you misbehave and and i just believe there's got to be
00:45:18.460
a deep reservoir of decency over there the judeo-christian tradition isn't alive and vibrant
00:45:24.620
but i think it's deep within the english and british people uh and so you know are they being
00:45:31.340
passive uh and then who's running this show who's who's behind this in the u.s uh we have billionaire
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forces globalist forces that just want control and power all right is that similar uh in the uk
00:45:44.060
or or is it different peter well obviously a lot of our political figures are are linked into the wf
00:45:50.840
obviously tony blair um is a key figure in that globalist agenda and all of our prime ministers
00:45:57.540
have bought into that so you have that on one side you'd mentioned that the the normal everyday
00:46:03.780
people um and they're angry but they're told shut up or you'll be called racist and that was a phrase
00:46:09.200
that basically was used in the brexit debate and the brexit referendum that if you vote for brexit
00:46:15.060
you're a xenophobe and a racist and you hit other people from other nations and that we all know that
00:46:22.180
term racist is enough to shut many people down because obviously people are aghast at being labeled
00:46:29.100
such a horrendous tag so that does shut down but actually what we are seeing we're seeing that the
00:46:36.140
government are using this as a way of locking many people up and they have been agitating to lock
00:46:42.220
many on the right and a lot of it was kicked off with tommy robinson had a big rally in central london
00:46:48.300
end of last month and there were between 50 and 100 000 people there all just wanting our country back
00:46:54.060
and that seems to have spurred the government into preparing so whether this is a false flag or not
00:47:00.420
i can't say but i can't say the government are using this to jail people and to demand access to
00:47:06.780
people's social media accounts to make sure people are rounded up through what they do outside and also
00:47:12.600
what they say online and anything which you now say online can be used as an excuse by the government
00:47:17.740
to come knock your door down arrest you and jail you for years at a time so the government are are
00:47:24.180
are playing this well to their agenda which is to shut down any criticism of mass immigration and
00:47:30.960
destruction of our country yeah i'm just fascinated uh with the moral piece there right and so brexit
00:47:38.260
you're called a racist uh that's obviously a strong moral charge and so i think it does illustrate
00:47:45.280
there's a strong moral reserve sitting there in the british people right uh there's a moral charge being
00:47:50.700
made people care about that they don't want to be considered immoral or unethical or unspiritual or
00:47:56.780
whatever it is so where's the breakdown what why does uh why does morality just work in one direction
00:48:02.600
uh what about you know don't bear false witness don't lie don't cheat don't steal like they're doing
00:48:08.020
on the government side uh where where's that british spine and what's missing here well it is a concerted
00:48:15.620
effort that has chipped away at that and i was with a church leader today of a large church
00:48:19.900
here in the uk um and he was sharing some concerns i had we were having a frank discussion
00:48:25.880
um and it was we were discussing the lack of leadership in the church where the church to speak
00:48:30.780
into this and raise the concerns of everyday people uh where are christian politicians speaking of this
00:48:37.820
where are the media oh the media are on the side of the government and we learned that through the
00:48:41.540
covet tyranny that the media have become a mouthpiece for the state so yesterday or maybe this morning
00:48:48.620
the front page of at least five newspapers was more or less the same photo and the same statement
00:48:55.180
which was we are defeating the far right that was the from five different newspapers some on the left
00:49:02.100
some on the right so they are speaking with one voice it is the government's voice and it is the voice
00:49:07.700
that has to shut people up and people as we saw during covid they want to make a living and if the police
00:49:14.140
tell you if you do this we will throw you in jail for three years that is enough to make people question
00:49:20.540
what they are doing and that's a normal reaction um and we need strong leadership that's what we're
00:49:26.380
lacking here uh we have very brave individuals like tommy robinson like calvin robinson who we have on
00:49:32.640
tonight on hearts of oak uh like lawrence fox like many individuals who are standing up and speaking
00:49:38.960
but there are many others who are afraid of being tarred by the brush of extremism and far right
00:49:45.540
and they're silent but what we really need is is more leaders to lead the people who are hungry
00:49:50.320
for good solid leaders with a vision for patriotism in our nation once again in the uk
00:49:56.020
yeah very well said peter uh this far right thing has got to end right i was a presbyterian economist
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for 20 years at a small liberal arts school run for congress and then i get called every name in the book
00:50:08.300
uh there's not much more boring than a presbyterian economist right i mean that takes a day so uh my
00:50:14.560
idol obviously uh one of them was adam smith a moral philosopher the other moral philosopher of
00:50:20.160
note is carl marx and the world is carved up along the lines of those two moral philosophers so tell
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your british buddies to read their adam smith and get the backbone going again we believe in you guys
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uh and uh we have faith we're all going to get it right together so god bless you peter thanks for
00:50:35.840
being on and uh look forward to having you on again soon anytime thanks dave thanks brother
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all right now we're going to mike lindell mike uh what word do you have for us today any words of
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