Episode 3882： Pushing The SAVE Act; Winning North Carolina
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The world is in chaos, and it's time to do the hard work to fix it. Steve Bannon and Dave Bratt discuss what's at stake in the mid-term elections, and why the pro-democracy coalition must do all the work to save our country.
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As Jonathan Martin put it in Politico this week, if Republicans want to win, they need Trump to
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lose big. Trump will never concede defeat, no matter how thorough his loss. Yet the more
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decisively Vice President Kamala Harris wins the popular vote and Electoral College, the less
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political oxygen he'll have to reprise his 2020 antics. And importantly, the faster Republicans
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can begin building a post-Trump party. Again, of course, that outcome's far from given, right?
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Think of it this way. Donald Trump could utterly disappear from public, never appear in public
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once again from now until Election Day, still have a pretty good shot winning the White House
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and Republicans flipping the Senate, like a coin flip maybe. And that makes it all the more
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important that, again, the country's pro-democracy coalition does the hard work of preventing that
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outcome. Because the reality is winning a clear majority is not enough. The MAGA movement needs
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to lose over and over and over again. Democracy will not be on secure footing in this country
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until the Republican Party internalizes the lesson that nominating extreme, dangerous,
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maladjusted psychopaths and hoping the quirks of our election bail you out is not enough.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people. The reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. The
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people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do
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everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA media. I wish in my soul,
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I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my
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purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Dave Bratt in the War Room with the great Stephen K. Bannon. Start off the show out of respect for
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Steve in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The world is in chaos. We're about
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ready to have up a great friend of the show in a second on election integrity. But I just want to
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spit out a couple key events happening in the news. You've all seen the border invasion play out,
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right? This show, Steve Bannon's been at the forefront of that for a decade. I ran on that
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a decade ago, had a big win. But now it turns out a small town, Springfield, Illinois, et cetera,
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50,000 people has 20,000 Haitians delivered to them by the federal government. The town is in
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total collapse, total freefall. We told you this is happening at a theater near you folks,
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right? And so I know I'm preaching to the choir, but we are in the countdown, right? All political
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views are my own, but it is time to go nuts on every group you know. If you haven't spammed your
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entire list of friends and told them what's at stake in this country, I think two days ago in England,
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I saw a nice looking gentleman arrested for speaking up against the trans stuff going on
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in his kids' schools. Arrested and put on what looked like a SWAT bus. Germany, the conservative
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elections, huge results a day ago going toward the populace over there. And then it turns out
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Germany actually deported some of the Afghan criminals out of Germany, right? So the mainstream,
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the globalists even know they've gone too far, right? So they're starting to respond to the
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people's votes. And so thesis for the day and our next guest, voters matter. There's only one way to
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turn things around, and that's with a huge vote to get this country on track. And you all know in the
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war room, the big three have always been the border invasion, and then the endless spending.
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You know, now even the Republicans, right? I was in the House as a Congress member, folks don't know.
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But in the House now, they're saying, well, the good news is we're keeping spending to the current
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levels. There's no spending rate. We're keeping spending to $7 trillion. We approved the Nancy Pelosi
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$7 trillion budget that funds World War II level debt and that funds the COVID budget. When we
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handed out a check to everyone in the country, that's the $7 trillion budget. We're going to do
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a CR for that again. It may be worth it. You heard Scott Perry and others in the Freedom Caucus,
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Ralph Norman, messaging yesterday out on the news and saying, look, if we get the SAVE Act,
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we're not going to get anything better on the budget because the Senate and the White House
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can veto everything. But there's a lot at stake here, right? And then the never-ending wars,
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today we're going to get in that with Faddis and some generals, et cetera. Nuclear war is not
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out of bounds, right? Luckily, nothing's luckily, right? There's 500,000 dead in Ukraine, right?
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Russia, if we ever pinned Russia down, which we're not going to, and the conventional forces,
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they're winning and they're going to win. But if you pinned them down and put their back up to the
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wall, they would react. And we're trying to put them there. So all of this is at stake. You all
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know it. It's our pleasure to have a representative from North Carolina from a group called Insight.
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We'll get into the name of, but Jim Womack, he can introduce himself and he's got some family
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members you may know of if he wants to go there. But the name Insight, I heard, and the best thing
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I could say about Jim is he's friends with Cleta Mitchell. Anyone that's a friend of Cleta Mitchell
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is a friend of mine. She's an American icon and hero. And I heard, Jim, I heard Cleta had a naming
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opportunity for you and your group. Why don't we start off with that one? Yeah, David, thanks for
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having me on. Really appreciate it. Big fan of the war room and of you, Professor Bratt. You were an
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inspiration when you got elected back a decade or so ago to Congress. We always followed you closely
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and supported you, my friend. Well, look, when we were first formed back about two and a half years
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ago, Cleta, you know, she's the matriarch of the Election Integrity Network, does a magnificent job
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nationwide. She recruited us to organize a state team here in North Carolina that would protect the
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election for 2022 and 2024. And when we got organized, she wanted us to be called the North
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Carolina Election Integrity Network. So we were a subsidiary of the EIN. But when we tried to
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pronounce that acronym, it came out as insane. So we decided there would be a better naming convention.
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So we called it the North Carolina Election Integrity Team Insight. And that has a lot better
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connotation than insane. So, you know, we operate widely across the state. We have about 1,700 members
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now that are active in the program. We have conference calls every week to keep people posted
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about what's going on nationwide. And we operate closely with Cleta and her network of experts.
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The other thing I do, in addition to running the state team, is I run Cleta's Election Machines and
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Technology National Working Group. So we have a lot of analysts and machine experts that are a part of
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our team that are helping to identify the vulnerabilities of machines and what we need to
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do to audit those machines so that we have reliable election outcomes. Yeah. Go over that. How vulnerable
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are you? How vulnerable is North Carolina when it comes to election integrity? How do you assess the
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vulnerability? Okay. So we have what we refer to as the eight lanes of election integrity. And I won't
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get into all eight of them because we don't have the time. But basically, you know, one part of that
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is poll observation and interaction at the polling sites to make sure that things are done in a free
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and fair fashion. And we train poll observers nationwide to do that. We're really, that's part of the key
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focus we have now of training volunteers to be poll observers and judges and election officials so that
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they can effectively ensure a free and fair election. But the other lanes that are really
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vulnerable, that's a least vulnerable lane, actually. The other lanes that are very vulnerable
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have to do with the voter lists, the machines, and voting by mail. Those three lanes of election
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integrity are all very vulnerable, mostly around the country, but especially in North Carolina.
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And it's been caused by two things, two principal factors. One, the State Board of Elections
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is operating in a partisan fashion underneath the governor, a Democrat governor, and they have shut
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down list maintenance operations almost entirely around the state. They've protected the corrupt
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voter lists in North Carolina, and they're doing it willfully and intentionally. The second reason is
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because our legislature has just failed to pass important legislation that would protect the vote.
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We proposed several bills to them over the last couple of years, and they've given us a few
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things around the edges, but not really changed the statutes of North Carolina that would protect the
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Yeah. And we're learning in the last week or so, Chip Roy and a bunch of other leaders on the SAVE Act,
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we didn't even know for sure, but it turns out it is illegal for illegal aliens to vote
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in the federal law. But then the Democrats are messaging on that and saying, well, so there's
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no need for this SAVE Act. But now we've learned there is a need because it can be against the law
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at the federal level. But if the states don't comply and enforce the law and go through their voter
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lists and exclude the illegal immigrants, their votes will stand. And all the other shenanigans is
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just assumed, right? The mail-in votes and all that. So explain that. And all of this applies
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generally, right? That's why you're on. So your North Carolina insights apply to the nation, right?
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That's correct. Well, there's only one state in the country that I'm aware of that actually has a
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division of proof of citizenship, and that's Arizona. Arizona, in that state, you're required to
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declare or to prove your citizenship when you register to vote. And if you fail to do that,
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then you can only vote in the federal elections because it's protected. It's a protected status
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as a registrant without proving citizenship to be able to vote in the federal elections.
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That SAVE Act would fix that. But at state level, virtually none of the other states have any
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protections because you can't prove citizenship. The forms, the federal forms that are approved for
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their use do not require proof of citizenship. And even though there's evidence of citizenship,
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many of the bureaus of motor vehicles around the country, and especially in North Carolina,
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that information is not used. The Help America Vote Verification to have lookups are not being
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used uniformly by the states, and North Carolina uses it very rarely. And so we've got a lot of
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registrants who have never proved their citizenship through the have lookup or through providing their
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driver's license. We got half a million voters in North Carolina who are missing federally required
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information, federally required information under the HAVA Act. And they're on the voter list,
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Yeah. And so give us a little hope, right? I mean, we had the 16 cycle, the 20 cycle, the 22 cycle.
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Good people like you are working like crazy. Cletus working like crazy. The war room, Steve's incited
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every state and he's in touch with everybody. What inroads? Are we making at least a dent,
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you know, getting ready for the lawfare that's sure to come? What's the good news on the front?
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Lara, Trump over at the RNC, I've heard she's whipping some stuff into shape.
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So it's obvious we still have problems. The states are still behind the times. They're not on the
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right side of the football. They all yell about democracy, but this is the clearest case of violations
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of the democratic spirit where we just want every vote to count. And so give us a little hope and
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good news. And then, you know, tell us what should people be doing? What's the call to action?
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Well, the good news is, is there are activists all over the country,
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patriots like you and me that are working nonstop to connect with a network or a team to participate
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in the election process. And typically in the past, most citizens have left that to the paid
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operatives. Honestly, there are a lot of citizens that are coming out of the woodwork that are saying,
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look, we're concerned about the election. I think CPAC showed that the number one concern among
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conservatives in America beyond the border wall and the economy was the sanctity of the elections.
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You know, the surveys all over the country are showing that people are concerned. They don't
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trust the machines and they have every right not to because the machines are so vulnerable.
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Here's the hope. The hope is, is that citizen activism will always be a deterrent factor.
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They will always stop the attempts if there is any risk of getting caught. So that citizen activism at
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the polls helps. Citizens need to sound off on their legislators about not doing enough to protect the
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vote. Legislators are denying legislation that could protect the vote in many states. And they should
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always demand from their representatives, what are you doing for me to make sure that my vote is being
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protected? And don't let them give them that pat answer. Make sure that they call them out about the
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voter list being corrupt and about the vote by mail being a very insecure system. Those both need to be
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challenged. And then I think the other thing is, is that citizens should, should feel free to, to make
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even small dollar contributions to organizations like Cletus network, the election integrity network,
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our team insight, you can go out to our website, nceit.org and, and make a small dollar donation.
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Every little bit helps. We are not prepared like the left is to conduct lawfare, to protect the vote
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through, through, through the, uh, defense of the statutes that are on the books. And, and therefore
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we're at, at the mercy of Mark Elias and these left wing organizations that are pursuing until we're
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blue. Uh, we need that kind of help as well. So any funding support, but you know, come out to my
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website, join nceit.org. Join that. We don't spam you. We don't, we don't, uh, drill you for money, uh,
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all the time. We do, you know, we just get you, help you get plugged into this network so that we can,
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uh, we can do the things we need to do to protect the vote. Yep. Jim Womack. Uh, thanks for being
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out in the war room, brother. Thanks for all you're doing in North Carolina. He just gave you
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insights across the country, uh, all the action items, the urgency stick with the war room, Scott.
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Back in the war room with the great Stephen K. Bannon and today, very special guest, my good friend and
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colleague back in Congress, Congressman Scott Perry, a member of the Freedom Caucus. These guys are the
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true heroes for real. The press comes after us for believing in the simple Constitution, for believing
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in balanced budgets and for wanting to keep our country safe from foreign dangers. And for that,
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we face headwinds. And so Scott Perry, Congressman Perry, welcome to the war room. It's an honor to
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have you on. You're a great leader. We're leading the helm at the Freedom Caucus. And I just want to
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start off with the big leading news on the SAVE Act. Can you fill us in? I heard there's a discrepancy
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between federal law and state law. Fill us in as to what that means. Well, what that means is,
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and great to be with you, Dave. Thanks for hosting and thanks for letting me have an opportunity.
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What it means is that it is currently a felony to vote if you're here illegally. But the illegals
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don't know it. And there are people that will capitalize on it. And probably some illegals do
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know it. But they also know that no one's ever prosecuted for this, Dave. And no one,
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the states don't even bother checking. So just imagine having speed limit laws, but no police,
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right? What would it matter? Because you know no one ever got caught and no one ever did anything
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about it. That's where we are right now. So right now to vote, at least in Pennsylvania and I suspect
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around the country, all you do is sign your voter registration for. Now there's some small print
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there about being a citizen and all that stuff. But these people that probably many of them don't
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speak English. And if you're just signing up for a driver's license in Pennsylvania where we have motor
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voter, right? You want to get the driver's license and get out of there before anybody asks more
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questions if you're here illegally. And when they say, you know, do you want to register?
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You're not going to say no. You're just going to say, look, whatever gets this process done
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and get me down the road. Once they're registered, they're on the rolls. Now they might vote. Maybe
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they don't. Maybe somebody votes on their behalf with a mail-in ballot of which millions are mailed out.
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Because as you know, no one requests a mail-in ballot in Pennsylvania. You just get them sent to you.
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And the parties do that. And so there are millions of these things floating around
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untethered to any single person where anybody checks a list. And so the SAVE Act says that if
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you're going to have an election, remember the Constitution, David, I know you know this,
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that in Article 1 it says that the states will determine the time and manner of elections. Time
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and manner, right? So if you're going to have the election in those states and determine the time
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and manner, the federal government is going to require you to determine and authenticate
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citizenship. It's already, it's already against the law. It's just, nobody does anything about it.
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This would put some teeth in and say, you can't let people that are here illegally vote illegally.
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And if you do, there are going to be criminal consequences and penalties for that.
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Good. And so what's the, what's the major hangup in order for the feds to enforce that?
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What do they have to do? I know it's, what do they got to do? Ask the states for their
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The major hangup, David, is that many of these states don't want to do it because this is all
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part of the plan, right? They want as many untethered voters out there and untethered
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votes out there for them to determine. That's the major hangup. No one ever wants to do this work
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because they tell us all elections are secure. They're the most secure ever. Meanwhile,
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we know dead people are voting. Their rolls are never been completed, uh, being cleaned up. We know
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that, uh, they don't purge people off the rolls year after year and cycle after cycle. So that's all
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just rhetoric, but it's not tied to reality. Yeah. All right. Let's go from that to, uh,
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the same act, uh, may perhaps, uh, hopefully, uh, be tied, uh, to the CR to the spending bill,
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in which case there'd be pressure to get that moving forward. President Trump has signaled.
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He's in favor of it. Uh, Speaker Mike Johnson is signaling. He's might be in favor of it. Uh,
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I remember, uh, back in the days. Yeah. Yes. Give us the update. Just got off. I just got off a call
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with the speaker and what he's proposing is a six month CR into next year, right into March or so
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with the save act attached to it. Now, you know, and I know Dave, that a CR continue resolution
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continues the bad policies and spending of the past, right? So you and I would never want to vote
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for that, but here's, what's going to happen. And you know, this, we're going to run out of funding
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on the, at the end of September, the Senate has passed no funding bills and they don't even have
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an agreement on how much we're going to spend, let alone, you know, in the different appropriations
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bills, how much is going to be spent on the military versus the department of justice versus the
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department of interior, right? No agreements whatsoever. So what that means is a CR is
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going to come or an omnibus, which is even worse, right? So, so this is an alternative for us,
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even though we hate the CR, what it does is it allows us to fund government, unfortunately at the
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same level until Donald Trump is the president. And then he can decide number one and two, it allows
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us to say to the Senate, okay, if you're going to play this game, you're going to have to pass the
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CR with the save act on it, which is going to be actionable in this election in November,
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you're going to require States to determine citizenship and verify citizenship of their
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voters. And number three, it stops all possibility of the pre-Christmas omnibus written in Chuck
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Schumer's office by his staff. So that, that, that's our choice. And as you know, Dave, we never have a
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choice between, you know, good and bad, right? You have a choice between bad and worse. And so,
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you know, look, I don't want the CR. I certainly don't want the omnibus, but if I can get the save
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act with the CR, that's going to pass anyhow, because remember Dave, that even though Scott Perry and Dave
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Bratt won't vote for a CR at the end of September, a bunch of Republicans will join every Democrat to
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vote for it and we will lose anyhow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, you don't have to weigh in on this,
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but, uh, one of our perennial problems was always the Republicans are left to run on your own,
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right? As a Congress, you got to get the, the, the bullhorn out in your own district. The newspapers
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are all leftist. It's very hard to get your message out. And then our team doesn't run on
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anything. Trump and the RNC and the war of, we have the big three. It's the border invasion,
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endless spending on woke and weaponized government and endless wars. Why doesn't our side message on
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these? And the save act, by the way, is an 80% issue that everybody wants. How can you not run on
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that? What is wrong with us? All political views are my own. Go ahead. Congressman Perry. I agree with
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you. We asked the speaker to do this CR back in the beginning of the summer so that we could have been
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running on it all through August, all summer long, beating up the people that voted against it,
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who are essentially by voting against it are saying it's okay for people here to, to vote illegally,
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right? That's what they're saying. But, you know, we couldn't get our colleagues there. As you know,
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that's always the problem, especially some of the people that spend the money, they want their hands
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on that lever and they don't want to, to have that power taken away from them. Unfortunately, Dave,
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whether it's the left or the right, you know, I'm an equal opportunity. Um, just, you know, I, I,
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I make objective calls the way I see them. Both sides want to spend this money often. And so both
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sides are responsible that for that. Like I said, we can come in and Dave Brat, if you were still in
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Congress, Scott Perry, certainly vote against the CR, but there's always enough Republicans to team
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up with Democrats to, to pass that kind of garbage because they get something for it and they don't
00:24:20.660
have to go out in their districts and say, Oh, well I, you know, I voted against shutting down the
00:24:25.720
government, right? No one ever wants to see the government shutdown, even though, as you know,
00:24:29.940
85% of the government never really shuts down anyhow. And everybody gets all their back pay,
00:24:35.580
even if they never showed up for work. So the whole thing is, uh, look, we need Republicans with
00:24:40.800
spines. You were in the freedom caucus, you know, where the tip of the spear is. And, uh, you know,
00:24:45.900
quite honestly, the save act, uh, as you know, Dave is a, is a freedom caucus product. The save act
00:24:52.840
came from the freedom caucus and the save act took to a six month CR going into president Trump's
00:24:58.680
term where he can determine what's next is also a freedom caucus product. So as usual,
00:25:04.340
the freedom caucus is fulfilling its mission of dragging, even though it might be unwilling at
00:25:09.340
times, the Republican conference to the right. Yeah. Good for it. All right. In closing, we got
00:25:15.080
about two and a half minutes left. Pennsylvania is going to be ground zero, right? All political views
00:25:20.460
of my own Georgia, Pennsylvania. You're in Pennsylvania. Great people, heartland, uh,
00:25:27.300
super folks. What are the issues that Pennsylvanians care about? Cause that's going to determine
00:25:31.740
everything. Well, first of all, president Trump will be here this evening for a, uh, for a town
00:25:37.480
hall. He understands it. And here's what Pennsylvanians are concerned about, Dave. They
00:25:41.780
can't pay their bills, right? People say, well, inflation, the cost of living is up 20%. But what
00:25:47.080
they don't count is for the reduction in the size of the product. So you're paying 20% more,
00:25:52.680
but the product size, you know, you can't go buy a half gallon of ice cream anymore, right? The
00:25:57.580
product size has been reduced, whether it's a, you know, it's a, a pound is not, you know,
00:26:02.020
they don't sell things in pounds anymore. It's so many ounces, 17 or, or 14 ounces for 20% more in
00:26:08.640
the price. People can't afford their groceries, their electricity bills, their daycare bills. They
00:26:13.680
can't afford to buy a new home. They can't afford to buy a new car and they're paying for the grocery
00:26:18.000
bills on their credit cards, which is at the highest rate ever in history. So it's unsustainable. The
00:26:23.480
economy is crushing everyday working citizens in Pennsylvania. Number two, safety. They're watching
00:26:29.660
it occur all around the state and all around the country. People don't want to visit our cities
00:26:34.060
because they don't feel safe. And it's not just the cities now, Dave, 60 miles from here. Some person
00:26:39.480
here illegally killed a young lady jogging out on a rail trail, just minding her own business,
00:26:44.600
but she got assaulted and killed. And people are afraid to go outside their homes and they want
00:26:50.560
safety and security. They're not going to get it with the open border Democrats. And then finally,
00:26:55.380
embarrassment on the world stage where at the anniversary of like Afghanistan and the horrific
00:27:00.440
withdrawal that the, the, the, the service members lost at the Abbey gate, president Biden checking his
00:27:05.720
watch and, and, and never calling the gold star families afterwards. You know, even after the
00:27:11.100
funeral where he was checking his watch, people don't like that. They, and then they know that
00:27:16.620
Harris and walls is just a continuation of that. And maybe even worse. I mean, Walt's mate, you know,
00:27:22.020
he honeymooned in, in, in communist China. He could have chosen anywhere in the world, David,
00:27:27.100
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00:27:32.740
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Back in the war room with the great Stephen K. Bannon. I've been reading through a couple of the
00:31:18.460
comments out there from the posse on the great Congressman Scott Perry and some of his comments.
00:31:25.820
Some folks in the war room say, no, he's all wrong. We want a shutdown. And I'm scratching my head on
00:31:32.760
those comments, folks. I want to go over this slow-mo. We don't want a shutdown. Right now,
00:31:39.320
we want the SAVE Act so we can save democracy. So, of course, if you put the SAVE Act into place,
00:31:46.420
the Senate may say no, that we may get pressure in the House even. But what we want is the SAVE Act,
00:31:53.500
right? We want much more. We don't want a woken, weaponized budget. If your congressman
00:31:59.140
member from either side, Republican or Democrat, says, well, the good news is we're not going to
00:32:03.460
increase spending. Well, I hope not. It's a $7 trillion budget that the CR is going to approve
00:32:08.820
and go forward. So when they make it, if any congressman is giving soundbites, this is saving
00:32:14.360
money. No, it's a disaster, right? That's the budget that McCarthy handed up to Pelosi and the
00:32:20.900
White House to Biden unilaterally by himself after promising the House they wouldn't do that.
00:32:26.840
So I just want to put that in context. The goal is the SAVE Act, right, to save democracy for real
00:32:32.540
where citizens vote. The goal is not a shutdown, right? And so Perry had it just right. If you put
00:32:39.320
the SAVE Act in, the Speaker is going to have to decide at the end of the day when the Senate comes
00:32:44.800
back and says no, which they certainly will do, that's when the shutdown debate will start. So I
00:32:50.680
just want to put an important caveat in there. Our pleasure to welcome the crowd favorite back on
00:32:57.240
all things domestic and international. But today we're going to hit the international with
00:33:01.380
Jack Posobiec. Jack, welcome to the War Room. I've been trying to follow the world news. It's just
00:33:10.240
dizzying pace with all these wars across all the countries. And so I wanted you on again to go
00:33:18.060
around the world. And right now, you know, it's particularly problematic. I've got some military
00:33:24.040
friends here at Liberty, generals, great American heroes. And I always used to be very happy that,
00:33:32.480
you know, the military was under civilian control, meaning under the president, who's the commander
00:33:36.720
in chief. And right now, you know, all political views are my own. But on the Democrat side of the
00:33:42.620
football, it's their administration. They took out their own commander in chief and they said he's not
00:33:47.420
capable of running for the presidency. And now Kamala Harris is running for the presidency. And so
00:33:53.760
number one, you know, is this problematic? Who's making the play calls? And then, you know,
00:33:59.120
give us a tour de force around the globe with all the hotspots. And you're the master on that. Thanks,
00:34:04.100
Jack Posobiec. Yeah, of course. And by the way, I'm also seeing those comments regarding the
00:34:08.660
shutdown situation. And it's so simple. We don't need a shutdown, folks. We don't need the shutdown
00:34:14.320
decision is the Democrats decision, because all we're asking for is to make sure that illegal aliens
00:34:20.880
can't vote. And if illegal aliens can't vote and that the states are going to remove them from the
00:34:26.400
voter rolls and arrest people who are involved in registering noncitizens to vote, then, of course,
00:34:32.420
you get your CR. It's as simple as that. All you have to do is pass the SAVE Act and then there won't
00:34:37.540
be any problem. So if you want to avoid the shutdown, just pass the SAVE Act. It's that simple,
00:34:43.100
ladies and gentlemen. But of course, the decision is going to be up to the Democrats and Mitch
00:34:47.160
McConnell and Joe Biden. So we'll see. We will see. Now, that being said, we know that Joe Biden
00:34:53.460
isn't actually in charge of the White House. And we also saw that, by the way, with the yanking of
00:34:58.940
him, which, by the way, Vladimir Putin is up on TV in Russia right now making fun of. He's making fun
00:35:05.480
of Joe Biden saying, well, we were supporting we were supporting Joe Biden, but he was yanked from the
00:35:11.420
presidential campaign and he has told his supporters to go and support Kamala Harris. So
00:35:17.240
very well, we will now support Kamala Harris. She has such a wonderful laugh. She's doing a great
00:35:21.900
job. I mean, he's he's up there laughing at you. He's up there laughing at the White House. He's
00:35:28.680
laughing at all of it. And by the way, there was something that this is very interesting, Dave.
00:35:33.000
There was something that Putin said in his Tucker interview that a lot of people missed. And it was
00:35:37.800
this one piece where he would say, I came to learn because we know Putin's been in power for a long
00:35:43.080
time. It's been, I think, 20 plus years at this point. So he said, I've noticed that the issue is
00:35:48.020
whenever I seem to negotiate with presidents in the United States, that they will tell me one thing
00:35:53.500
and they will then they will go and talk to their advisors and the intelligence committee and the
00:36:00.980
intelligence community and the intelligence community tells them something else. And so he says,
00:36:05.680
I gradually began to realize that it isn't the presidents who are actually in charge in the
00:36:10.360
United States. It's actually these national security guys. And maybe those are the ones that
00:36:14.520
we should be negotiating with because the presidents don't seem to have any actual power. And so when
00:36:19.700
when you listen to the words of our system as described through one of our adversaries, our
00:36:25.760
competitors around the world, we realize that their view is actually interesting to us because
00:36:32.120
they're looking at it from the outside. And it's perhaps actually instructive for us to look at it
00:36:37.440
this way as well. Are our presidents actually in charge of our governments? And clearly, by the way,
00:36:43.240
Joe Biden didn't make the decision to drop out. So the question then becomes, well, who made that
00:36:47.940
decision? Was it really just the Obamas? Was it Pelosi? Was it Schumer? Or were there people behind
00:36:52.880
the scenes that were actually pulling the strings? And we know this. I think the average American knows
00:36:58.020
this. That's why when you have crazy situations, just go look around the world, as you were
00:37:02.640
mentioning earlier. So you've got Ukraine has now pushed into Russia in the Kursk region. They're
00:37:08.680
going after the Kursk national nuclear power plant. They're potentially going after these pipelines that
00:37:14.400
are running from Russia into Ukraine. Of course, that's what this entire thing is about. And don't
00:37:18.660
think for one second that Burisma and Hunter Biden and the natural gas and the energy flows from Ukraine
00:37:25.140
and Eastern Europe into into Europe proper are not what all of this has been about from the very
00:37:31.380
start. That's why Hunter Biden 10 years ago was put on the board of Burisma. It wasn't an accident.
00:37:37.280
It wasn't just about the money to him. It wasn't just about the money to his father and his family
00:37:42.160
and the policies. No, it was about the energy sales to Europe. That's what it's all about, because if you
00:37:48.000
could control the energy, you can control the nations. It's so strategic. And by the way,
00:37:52.680
President Trump talked about this again and again and again, who controls the energy controls the
00:37:58.280
decision makers to makers just controls the strategic outlook. Then you go down not very
00:38:04.860
far south of Ukraine. You've got what Israel, the Israel Gaza situation with now Hezbollah getting on
00:38:10.680
board with Iran ramping things up. It is currently threatening to break out into a wider regional war.
00:38:18.360
The Red Sea has already been essentially lost to the Houthis because the Houthis have now
00:38:23.780
successfully been able to conduct the first the first sea blockade from land. And they're doing so
00:38:30.020
with drones. And the United States Navy, unfortunately, I hate to say this, but the United States Navy,
00:38:34.780
my beloved United States Navy, has not performed well in response to this. But of course, there's no
00:38:40.360
accountability because the SECNAV is up there and isn't taking any questions. The Congress doesn't
00:38:45.080
really seem to be looking into it. And we don't even know who to talk to Lloyd Austin. He's a ghost
00:38:49.180
in Washington, DC. He doesn't even go to the White House for these briefings anymore, barely. And we're
00:38:53.620
told there's no barely any discussion between the White House and him. He's just freewheeling it to
00:38:58.040
totally freelancing going into business for himself. This has been a huge black mark on the
00:39:04.200
state of the Navy. And let me tell you something, you think that China isn't looking at that? China is
00:39:08.600
going to go around mark my words, China will go around to all of these partner nations throughout the
00:39:13.880
port of Africa, throughout the Red Sea, to the Saudis, to the Iranians. That's why they're
00:39:18.260
talking to all of them and saying, oh, look, the United States can't provide freedom of navigation or
00:39:23.340
FONOPs at sea anymore. And this has always been the raison d'etre. This has always been the reason
00:39:31.120
for our stated reason for having the United States Navy have this massive force projection posture all
00:39:37.640
around the world with bases in Japan, with bases in Korea, all throughout Asia, all throughout Africa,
00:39:44.360
this region, throughout the Middle East. It's Qatar. It's always been Bahrain. It's always been
00:39:49.780
predicated on we are defending the freedom of navigation at the sea. Well, what if we're not
00:39:53.800
doing that anymore? Well, I'll tell you what goes on right now. You are going to lose the current
00:39:58.580
Mahanian strategy. And this is, by the way, this is all predicated on the model that the British
00:40:02.920
Empire actually built. That's why if you look at islands like Diego Garcia and the way stations
00:40:07.740
along the way, the Seychelles, this is why you see the presence there and the working with the
00:40:11.800
British. This is the British Empire model that the U.S. adopted post-World War II, sort of inherited in
00:40:17.520
many ways. And now that is what's breaking apart as we see this balance shake out towards
00:40:23.640
multipolarity. So who's going to backfill that? It's the BRICS nations. The BRICS nations are now
00:40:28.820
chomping at the bit with China more than anyone from a naval presence that's going to step up.
00:40:33.380
And then you look at the United States, you know, leadership, you look at Washington, D.C.,
00:40:39.000
and it's rudderless. It is completely rudderless. China understands this. Russia understands this.
00:40:44.000
And that's why the Saudis are moving in a different direction.
00:40:46.880
Yep. Let me ask you on that rudderless thing. They may be they may actually have a rudder. It seems
00:40:53.960
like they got 30 million dollars steering the rudder a certain way going to the Biden
00:40:58.180
family, as you pointed out, through Burisma. And then the Harris connections to China,
00:41:05.780
30 trips from Waltz, et cetera. We've had former retired retired Colonel John Mills on the show,
00:41:13.740
and he showed that we have currently 14 hotspots around the world right now. And he said China is
00:41:20.700
plausibly behind all 14, right? He went through Asia, South America, Europe, the Middle East,
00:41:28.500
et cetera. And everything you just went through is depleting our resources from the main threat
00:41:35.800
that we face, which is China. And so we got a minute to go on this side of the block, Jack,
00:41:41.060
but why don't you tee us off on that? What are we doing? And we know China's coming after us,
00:41:47.220
like you just said. There's all sorts of news reports and Reuters yesterday, China intelligence
00:41:52.000
inroads. Of course, the Biden DIA reports to Reuters and somebody else. Well, you know,
00:41:58.280
they're being a little cautious. All the evidence says they're disproportionately going after the Trump
00:42:03.560
side. And so give us a little more on the China piece, 30 seconds, and we're right back after the
00:42:09.560
right as well. China understands that they want to be where the United States was circa the Iraq
00:42:15.680
war invasion. So where the United States was positionally in the world in terms of dominating
00:42:20.100
the world hegemony, in terms of dominating the world system, that's where China wants to be.
00:42:25.380
And they seek to duplicate that model almost exactly as possible. And you're seeing them do this
00:42:30.580
with a series of bases, a series of agreements around the world, focusing on strategic lines
00:42:34.780
of communication and sea lines of communication, like, oh, by the way, taking control of the Panama
00:42:39.320
Canal. This is operating off of a plan. The Chinese Communist Party knows exactly what they're doing.
00:42:45.180
Yep. Awesome job, Jack. Back after the break with more Jack Posobiec. People do matter. The left
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wants us to believe that big personalities no longer matter in this world. To counter that,
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Back in the war room with the great Stephen K. Bannon, in-house with Jack Posobiec giving us a tour
00:45:27.880
de force around the globe. Former retired Colonel John Mills made the argument back that most all of the
00:45:37.760
hotspots are due to China. Jack Posobiec just told us we're wasting huge resources around the world
00:45:45.060
and losing some of these proxy battles. And the basic issue, right, that doesn't get repeated
00:45:51.860
enough, and it needs to be repeated every day by all of us, four years ago, we were not at war,
00:45:57.280
right? And so it does appear that key figures in history do matter. Now we have 14 hotspots all over
00:46:03.700
the globe, weakening us, using up our resources, our military's being depleted. We're having a hard
00:46:10.320
time with recruitment. We're having a hard time with military culture. We got woken weaponized way
00:46:15.560
up at the top. And so, Jack, how do we get this ship turned back on course? And how do we get ready
00:46:23.220
for China? And what should leadership be doing about all of these hotspots around the world? Hate to put
00:46:29.240
that all on your shoulders, but you're the man. Well, it's, it's, you know, there's, there's a few,
00:46:33.620
there's a, I mean, the, the easiest answer is returned Donald J. Trump and J.D. Vance to the
00:46:38.360
White House as president and vice president, respectively. J.D. Vance, of course, being an
00:46:42.900
actual combat veteran, as opposed to Chris or Tim Walsh to freakish Timothy, who claimed he was a
00:46:49.160
combat veteran, but actually was not one. And Kamala Harris, by the way, if she hadn't grown up in
00:46:53.740
Canada, maybe she would understand the importance of gold star families and of Arlington and why you
00:46:59.360
shouldn't be attacking them. This, by the way, this is a situation that attacking gold star families
00:47:03.580
is something that in another time period would have ended a presidential campaign. That's number
00:47:09.180
one. Number two, getting hostages killed after you just had their family speak at your own rally.
00:47:15.600
That's something else that would, in another time frame, would have had been an ender. It would
00:47:20.840
have been a campaign ender. By the way, this is also why Tim Walsh, because of his own stolen
00:47:25.020
valor lies, can't come forward and respond to any of the gold star situation because of his own
00:47:31.020
problems. And so this team is not ready to lead. I certainly hope that by that next week in
00:47:36.320
Philadelphia, that foreign policy is asked about because Kamala Harris, I mean, she says things like
00:47:41.400
Ukraine is a small country and Russia is a big country. And you ask her a question about China.
00:47:46.800
I mean, she might be able to point it out on a map, but I don't know that she would really
00:47:50.380
understand the difference between why the United States supports Taiwan, the semiconductors,
00:47:54.700
the importance of defending democracy in that part of the world, our allies with Japan and Korea
00:48:00.240
and all the, by the way, you know, Captain Fennell and Bradley Thayer, a fantastic book about this,
00:48:05.140
but also understanding the underpinnings of our alliances in this region. She has none whatsoever.
00:48:12.120
And so they're going to eat our lunch. And it's simple, by the way, if you want to keep the status quo
00:48:16.540
pro anti, if you want to return to that, all you have to do is bring Donald Trump back because he
00:48:21.360
understands that if you have a strong military and a, and a, by the way, a serious will to actually
00:48:27.640
commit to action when needed, as we saw with the Soleimani strike, then you don't need to go to war.
00:48:33.140
You don't need to commit to boots on the ground all over the world. Like so many of these people do,
00:48:37.960
like Hillary Clinton wanted to do, like Joe Biden has pushed for in this proxy war in Ukraine,
00:48:43.160
you can actually seek diplomatic ends. And then what does, what does Trump, what does Trump always
00:48:48.000
push for? It's business deals. How can we do business with these places? How can we find a
00:48:52.880
way to make a negotiation to seek peace? And we saw him doing that with the Abraham Accords. We saw him
00:48:57.640
do that when he sent Rick Grinnell over to Kosovo. We saw him do that personally when he sat down with
00:49:02.760
Vladimir Putin. I was there, by the way, in Helsinki. And he, of course, did that famously directly
00:49:07.780
man to man with Kim Jong-un stepping into North Korea. If you want peace, if you want prosperity,
00:49:14.420
that's Donald Trump. And, you know, I can't think of any more reason, by the way, that they would want
00:49:20.400
to take him out, whether physically, as we saw in Butler, PA, or also just arresting him,
00:49:27.240
convicting him. But then, of course, you know, we're just a couple of weeks away from sentencing
00:49:30.560
with Judge Womershan over here in New York City. And we know that there are so many strategic reasons
00:49:36.560
that they want to take him off the board. Yeah, Jack, two minutes to go until break.
00:49:44.640
But give me a little, where are the senior statespeople on this stuff? Where's the U.S.
00:49:49.480
Senate on foreign policy? Everybody knows, right, in the strategic briefs, they do put
00:49:55.040
China number one, maybe after the environment and after Woken weaponized. But, you know, China is up
00:50:03.920
there. And yet none of our resources and energies are being spent in preparation there. Where are
00:50:08.840
the senior voices at the New York Times, the foreign policy folks? I mean, most of them are
00:50:14.380
globalists. We know that. But there's got to be some good guys out there. Well, the issue is they're all
00:50:16.720
taking bags of money from the Chinese Communist Party. That's typically the main problem. Washington
00:50:22.780
Post, the New York Times, they're all being backfunded by this. And now you've got a guy, Tim
00:50:26.760
Waltz, who's running, that they're all lining up behind. And of course, he is totally in bed with
00:50:33.360
these guys with 30 trips over there. You mean to tell me that the Ministry of State Security wasn't
00:50:37.160
backbriefing him every time he went? It's a joke. It's a complete and utter joke. Now, it's very clear,
00:50:42.060
by the way, this is also an issue the Wall Street Journal has, because, of course, China is the
00:50:46.720
backbone of the globalist system. China understands that their manufacturing predicated on the slave labor
00:50:52.840
of the Lao Bai Xing, of the Chinese people, has been the factory for the IP that is controlled
00:50:58.400
and the investment, the foreign direct investment that comes out of Wall Street. This has been the
00:51:03.400
deal that was sown in the blood of Tiananmen when Scowcroft went over after Tiananmen Square. George
00:51:08.240
H.W. Bush's national security advisor made his secret meeting with the Chinese Communist Party. It's so
00:51:14.120
simple. And I know we've got a quick break coming up, so I'll just give a shout out that I will be
00:51:18.180
speaking this Saturday in Fort Worth. And if anyone wants to continue this discussion or talk
00:51:23.920
some more about this with the Tarrant County GOP, I'll be down there at Fort Worth. Beau French will
00:51:28.820
be there. We'll be doing a fantastic roundtable, talk all things foreign policy, all things domestic.
00:51:34.220
Look, if you want to understand where we're going for this world, if you're in the Dallas-Fort Worth
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area, it's incumbent, come out there. I know it's on a Saturday. I know SEC is back, so I know football's
00:51:44.220
going on, but come on, guys. Let's sit down. Let's actually have this discussion. And I promise you,
00:51:49.020
great. Watch the game after. Awesome. Thanks, Jack Posobiec for coming on the War Room. And I just
00:51:55.280
got to say, as a footnote to what Jack just said, President Trump, the only thing the left says in
00:51:59.600
the Wall Street Journal says is tariffs. The reason we want tariffs is not to have tariffs. It's to stop
00:52:05.240
the theft from China and the persecution of a Lao Bajing, as Jack just said. Once we get that,
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you can have free markets all you want, but we want justice and fair trade first.
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