Episode 3944： Debate Prep; Bringing Back Faith In The Country; Truly Protecting Women's Rights
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Jenny Beth Martin joins the show to talk about her travels across the country and her support for Donald Trump and his campaign. She also talks about her views on the current state of the Democratic Party and what it means for the country.
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I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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So now let's hear from Jenny Beth Martin, a legend in the movement and in the Tea Party movement that preceded it.
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You're in Montana, I think now, off to Pennsylvania tomorrow, and then on to Michigan and Wisconsin.
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What is the sentiment on the ground as you're traveling across the United States that you're seeing?
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If you're looking at the mainstream media, it's sort of giving the idea that we've got our heads and our hands crying, that it's all going so bad.
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I certainly see a lot of momentum for Donald Trump for president.
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And I hear people talking about Trump, even on airplanes, like in conversations either with me, but not even with me.
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And they're complaining about the way things are right now and they want something better and they want relief.
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In Arizona, there is a lot of momentum and energy for Trump.
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I didn't see that as much regarding Kamala Harris.
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And I was driving around all over the state over the weekend and I did not get that same sense.
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With that said, there were Democrats who showed up at a theater where I went that was showing a conservative movie and they were showing a liberal movie and the Democrat volunteers were very, very polite.
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And so they are showing up, but not in the same numbers as the Trump supporters.
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And I just sense that there is definitely real momentum for Trump.
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I need to see the other states still to know if that's across the whole country, especially in the swing streets or if Arizona is just really leaning towards towards Trump right now.
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In Georgia, I definitely saw I see more Kamala momentum than I did in Arizona.
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But there's there is a lot of energy for Trump as well in Georgia.
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Show me something else that I'd asked our previous guest in Pennsylvania, Noah from ICA.
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I'm picking up and this is a little it could seem to be counterintuitive, but I think it illustrates a really important dynamic.
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And I'll explain why after you answer. But it's young chaps in young guys in Generation Z.
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I'm not Generation Z. Sadly, I think I missed the cutoff point for that quite some time ago.
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But apparently the young guys are flooding to Donald Trump.
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Yeah, I am noticing that. And, you know, I have a 21 year old son and a 21 year old daughter.
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And I watched the kind of messages that my son received in in public school.
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He went to public school. I watched the kind of messages that that he received.
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And the the difference between what the boys receive and what the girls receive is quite astounding.
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So it doesn't surprise me that across all races, boys and young men and and older men are saying, I feel like I have been attacked over and over and over just because of the way I was born.
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I they can't control that they are born a boy who's going to grow into a man.
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And yet they're being attacked for that and told that they're there that women need special treatment and whatever else.
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And I think that at some point they're like, whoa, wait a minute.
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I want to provide for my family. I want to have a family.
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I want to have the ability to to have a career and be and be able to be self sufficient.
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I don't want to depend on other people. I want to take care of myself and provide for my family.
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And and I think that's part of the reason why they're looking at Trump and and leaning towards Trump.
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They see Trump. They they want to be able to be the same kind of a self made man when it comes to business.
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And even if they aren't as as wildly successful as Donald J Trump has been, they still want to be successful in their own right by their own standards.
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And I think that that has a lot to do with why men are are gravitating towards Trump.
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They're worried about the fact that the world seems on the brink of world war.
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If they get drafted, they want to know that our United States government will train them well enough that they could win in a war and come back home.
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So there's a lot of of emotion going into the decisions that they're that they are making.
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Look, I tell you why. And I'm very interested to hear that. Right.
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You're your experiences. I'll tell you why I asked you, because there are two phenomena that are taking place right now regarding regarding guys specifically, one of which is this phenomenon that young guys are moving to the right.
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They're moving in MAGA to in the Christian nationalism, this sort of thing.
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The second phenomenon, I saw something over the weekend, which said I think it was on the Southern Baptist had reported that really for the first time ever in terms of age cohort, men are stepping up and and and sort of peasants in their local church communities,
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rather than young girls taking the leadership in that in that age cohort of youth.
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And they were saying we've never seen this before. These two things that repeat this because they're related.
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Young guys are stepping forward when it comes to saving their country in MAGA and they're stepping forward when it comes to saving their faith.
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This is the this is a convergence of these two trends.
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And it's very important that these two things stand together, because fundamentally, this is something that a number of people will say.
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I'll definitely say this on the wall room that fundamentally the fight that we have confronting us, not just in America, but right across the world, right across the West, right across Christendom.
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It's a spiritual battle. And men, the left have made a huge headway over recent decades, just the last 10 years alone, eliminating sidelining men.
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There's attacks on this notional attacks on the concept of the patriarchy.
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Men are starting to fight back, but not just politically armed with their faith in Jesus Christ.
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This is going to be transformative for America. Jenny Beck.
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Yeah, I agree. And I have even seen that with with my own children who are part.
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They're obviously adults now, but in their in their own peer groups, I am noticing that same kind of a thing.
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I see that happening with some of the friends that my my children and my children themselves are hanging out with my adult kids.
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So I definitely see that. I think part of it is because the the these young men, especially the people who they were locked down by covid.
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The government utterly failed them when it came to education. They failed them when it came to mandates.
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They failed them when it came to mask and vaccine vaccines and everything else.
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And the they're looking for something that they can actually put their faith in that is reliable and God and Christ are reliable.
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It doesn't mean that you'll always have a good life, but it means that when you you seek God, you you feel his presence and he gives you comfort in and you have that with you constantly.
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And it is much more reliable than anything the government can ever provide.
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And the people who often run for office in both parties, especially on on the left will promise so many services and goods from the government to try to fix this or fix that or pitch patch this up or patch that up.
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When really we have this innate desire to be free, to be able to live our life the way we see fit without harming others.
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And we when you begin to understand that those those rights come from God, you want to go back and worship God.
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And so I think that you're absolutely right. The two are very closely tied together.
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I think it can be transformative for the future of the country and it should give everyone regardless of where you stand in this election.
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We should be comforted as older adults to know that the the generation that is emerging into adulthood right now cares deeply about their faith, especially the men.
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And they will lead to stronger, more stable families. And and that's good for all of society.
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And that's what I would want for my children and for my grandchildren.
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And I know I'm not the only one who wants it. You don't want to see your your children hurting inside of a family.
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Jenny Beth, you mentioned your kids a couple of times today on the show, your son, your daughter talking specifically about mentioning your daughter here.
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Is that an inspiration for you in this new project which you've launched down in Georgia?
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We have a new ad. It's you can find it at will your daughter be next dot com.
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We've launched it in Georgia, but it's a digital ad that can be shared anywhere where.
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And it's a website and it highlights many of the people who were victims from and have been killed because of illegal immigration.
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When Lake and Riley was viciously murdered by an illegal immigrant, it hit home on so many different levels.
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I'm a University of Georgia grad. I know friends of mine who have kids who are on campus at UGA and that's that's the area where she was murdered.
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And then very shortly after her death, I learned that her first grade teacher was my kids first grade teacher a year before them.
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And I just it hit home. I just I've been fighting for secure borders for over a decade and for this to come full circle and just be basically in my backyard.
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I I couldn't help but think when this happened to Lake and Riley, what if it happened to my daughter?
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And I don't think I'm the only mom in the country who is thinking that.
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But it could be your mother. Will your mother be next? Will your sister be next? Will your wife be next?
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It could be any of that in the ad really highlights all those different aspects, no matter whether you're married or have a sister or not.
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We all have moms and many people have daughters and we don't want to see that kind of crime that senseless, needless, preventable crime happen.
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I can't bring Lake and Riley back. I can't absolve her her family of the pain that they've gone through.
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But I want to do everything I can to prevent that kind of pain from happening to other families across this country.
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Tell me something about the feedback you've had to this already.
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Yeah, people really like the ad a lot. They think it's very powerful.
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So I urge you to to go look at the website, share it far and wide, especially with people who are a little bit undecided about whether they want to vote for Kamala Harris or not.
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Or if they're voting for just because she's a woman, show them that ad and remind them there are much more important issues than just a woman or just because you hate Trump.
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We've been suffering for the past four years because people just didn't like Trump. So they voted for something different. We have to be more thoughtful.
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And we also have a new app that we're using in the swing states to help increase voter turnout among friends and family, which activists can go to march to victory dot com to sign up for it.
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We will train you on it. It matches your contacts on your phone with the targeted voter list of people who who lean to Republican or are independent.
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And yet they don't vote in every general election. So if they're going to vote for Trump, we have to make sure they cast their ballot.
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And we teach you how to to have those natural interactions with the people you're already talking to.
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And if they're undecided, we give you some resources and messaging that you might be able to use to help sway them.
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And we're doing all that through March to victory dot com.
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And one more thing about that methodology, the Democrats have been using that.
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It's called relational organizing, and they have increased the vote by three point eight to nine point two percent.
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Now, I don't think we're going to increase a vote that much in a presidential election year.
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But imagine if we increase a vote by even half a percent in Arizona or Georgia or Wisconsin.
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Arizona's vote official vote difference in 2020 was less than two to 10,000 votes in the Abe Hamidi election.
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It was less than two hundred and fifty votes in Georgia.
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Eleven thousand seven hundred and seventy nine.
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I think this app could be the determining factor if the election is that close once again.
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Your social media and where do people go for the app to download it?
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Go to March to victory dot com to sign up and we'll send you the email to download the app.
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You can follow me on X and all the socials at Jenny Beth M.
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And then check out that ad at will your daughter be next dot com.
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We'll be back in two minutes with Ryan Waters from Oklahoma and our very own Ben Durkheim.
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Ryan Walters, the state superintendent for education in Oklahoma.
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So you've got some good news now with this project, which we've been accompanying with you right from the beginning.
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This project, this noble spiritual renewal project of having the word of God, Holy Bible in every school child's hand down in Oklahoma.
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Obviously from the usual forces, but you're pretty clear, pretty close to success now.
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We've allocated $3 million here in the state to make sure every single classroom has a copy of the Bible.
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And we're going to continue to ensure that every student in Oklahoma understands the role the Bible played in American history.
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The radical Marxist Democrats have fought us, but it's going to happen.
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They are so excited that we're going to bring back history to the classroom.
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And again, kids have to understand what made America great.
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They have to understand the influences the Bible have throughout American history.
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And we're very, very proud of that because frankly, you see this with Harris and you see it with Waltz and you see what this election is coming down to.
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This has been the Democrats plan from the beginning.
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That has been a plot that the left has had for decades.
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We are playing offense here in Oklahoma to turn that back around.
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And with President Trump winning the election here in about 40 days, we've got to get that done.
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Well, I think one of the reasons, Ryan, that people love you here on The War Room, the live chat specifically, is that you don't give up.
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You know, you realize you anticipated there'd be opposition and that's fine.
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You just carry on with this with this this initiative and you're making progress.
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Tell me about the recent obstacles that you've had and how you've been overcoming them.
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You know, the reality is if you're not facing stark opposition to what you're doing, you're not doing enough.
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I mean, the left has controlled these institutions.
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They've weaponized the justice system to go after Steve Bannon, to go after Donald J. Trump.
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They should be fighting us because, again, we're not going to allow them to turn this country into a Marxist dumpster fire.
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I knew, frankly, some of my own Republicans were going to come after me.
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My own Speaker of the House here in Oklahoma named Charles McCall has been trying to impeach me over these efforts.
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The people of Oklahoma are behind me and behind this effort.
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They are tired of this left-wing indoctrination in the classroom.
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They know America is the greatest country in the history of the world.
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And so that means getting back to the basics in education, getting back to the type of education we used to have.
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But, again, what we continue to do is, hey, look, we know they're going to come after us.
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But we're continuing to take our message directly to the people of Oklahoma and directly to the people of America and say, here's what we're doing.
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Here's what we've heard from parents and grandparents.
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You're putting the whole of the GOP to shame, I think, with what you're doing in Oklahoma.
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Do you have any updates for us on the timeline of when you actually think you're going to be able to get the Holy Bible in kids' hands?
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You know, it's close, I think, within a couple of months, maybe shorter than that.
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And, again, we are going to be so proud here in Oklahoma to be the first state in the country to bring the Bible back to every single classroom.
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President Trump has been the leader on this issue.
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He's been the leader on getting schools back on track.
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And isn't it amazing, as your audience and I will be tuning into the VP debate tonight, how little we've talked in the national media.
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Because, as you pointed out earlier, women mothers across the country are watching what's being done to their kids.
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But the Democrats don't want that to be a topic, right?
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They don't want to talk about trying to transition kids, trying to mutilate kids and tell them that they're transgender,
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trying to tell kids that they should hate their country, they should hate the traditional family model.
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They don't want that to be a topic right now as they're trying to barrel through this election.
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I think it's so important that we continue to put at the forefront.
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The Democrats have pushed graphic pornography on your kids.
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They have told your kids that they're a different gender.
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This is the most insane agenda the country has ever seen.
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And they should own it at the polls this November.
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Ryan, where do people go to follow you on social media or to support your initiative here of putting Bibles in students' hands?
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And we are not going to back down to the woke mob.
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We will not back down to radical Marxists that want to make kids hate this country, want to turn kids against Christianity.
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We will continue our fight and we will be successful.
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You're becoming famous across the United States now with this.
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I can't turn on the television these days without seeing you there.
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I just want to show you a little bit of the crowd.
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But that line goes, wraps around way over there.
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And we've got some friends over here I want to introduce you to.
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Raise your hand if this is your first Trump rally.
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Raise your hand if this is your first Trump rally.
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When the legislators ran to Illinois and would not work with the Republicans across the table,
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And then they went ahead and destroyed our capital.
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What do you think about what they've done, the Democrats have done to our country?
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Isn't it amazing that they claim it's the opposite?
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They claim to have the moral high ground while they're butchering babies and inviting our
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They're infiltrating our education and they've even had George Soros money in our churches.
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We've got some more fans here, but I want to let you jump in there.
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She said that she's now at a Trump rally because she sees in the democratic movement, the rise
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left the Democrat party and you see the Democrats now as the rise of the fourth right.
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While they call Trump supporters fascists, you look at what they're actually doing.
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And, and ironically, now they're actually aligning themselves against Israel with Hezbollah,
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with Hamas, with the actual modern day fascists, the real modern day fascists that want to
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If you can hear me up there, I want you to do me a favor.
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Raise your hand if this is your first Trump rally.
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So I just want to tell you, Ben, I've been doing this for the last couple of years.
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And when I first started doing it, it was maybe 30%.
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Now I would say it's 70, 80, 90%, depending on where you're going.
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Oh, we love to watch Trump speak and just all the excitement and just want to support him.
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Do you trust anything that's coming out of the Democrats?
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And the gangs that are coming in over the border, killing our people.
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This is a disaster happening in front of our eyes.
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With the massive tax hikes proposed by Harris, an almost 40% top income tax rate,
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We're going to go straight back to Wisconsin with Ben Burke-Grath, who is there on the ground.
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And I'm glad, Posse, that we're all getting to see these pictures, because it absolutely goes a hundred percent,
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a thousand percent in the face of what the mainstream media are lying to the American people about the sentiment on the ground.
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the sentiment on the ground. Ben, can you just ask the folk, the great folk, the great Americans
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who are standing right next to you? They're all Trump supporters. They've all traveled for miles
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around, hours ahead to hear him speak for the excitement and the energy. Can you ask them,
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hands up, everyone there who is registered to vote?
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Okay, first question. Is everyone here, raise your hand, if you're registered to vote?
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Let me see, hands up, hands up. Now don't be ashamed if you're not. Hands up, registered to vote. Raise
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your hands, let's go over here, registered to vote. Well, the only one, he can't raise his hand. How
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old are you? 10. 10, okay. How old are you? I'm almost 16. 16, okay. They can't raise their hand.
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Everyone else, that's over 18, registered to vote. Okay, okay, Ben, it looks like everyone who is
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eligible, we're not like Democrats out here, we don't have the dead and the kids voting too,
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but everyone who's eligible, it appears, is registered to vote. Next question.
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Next question is, honestly, honestly, hands up anyone who's not registered to vote.
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Okay, we want honest answers. Is there anyone here, so the opposite question, anyone here who's not
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registered to vote yet? Be honest. Anyone here, and kids don't count. Anyone here not registered to vote?
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Okay, either they're shy, but you can show the camera, Austin, there's no hands in the air. So
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everyone is registered to vote. Okay, so either they're telling the truth or they're lying, but not
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a single hand in the air, Ben. Okay, next question. Third question. Are they getting their friends and
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families who will vote Republican to ensure that they're registered to vote?
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Most important question. Raise your hand if you are getting people that you know are on our side,
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but don't vote in the past or haven't voted in the past, getting them registered to vote,
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or do you know people that haven't voted that are going to be voting this time? We've got a big hand
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in the air. Okay, got a hand here. What's your story?
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My daughter doesn't usually vote, and this year she's voting. Yes. MAGA? MAGA all the way. All right,
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sir. Look, that's in Namibia right there. Namibia? That's in Namibia. She can't vote,
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but she's wanting for our... We got it. So what's your name? Sandra. Sandra. We got Sandra in Namibia,
00:31:55.420
Africa with her pink MAGA hat on. She can't vote, but she's pumped for MAGA. The world needs MAGA. I was in
00:32:03.080
Europe, Ben. You know I was in Europe all summer. The world needs MAGA. Europe is burning down.
00:32:07.700
England is burning down. France is burning down. Africa is burning down. All right,
00:32:11.320
who else is working on that? Shout out to Namibia. Who else is working on that? Young guys. Okay,
00:32:15.240
young guys. Come on. Of course, yeah. What are you guys doing? Are you guys in college here? What
00:32:19.020
are you guys doing? Yes, we are. Wisconsin? Madison? We go to Edgewood, actually. Yeah,
00:32:23.560
we all go to Edgewood. Is it cool to be MAGA in college now? It depends where you go,
00:32:27.840
but honestly, it's pretty cool to be supportive for whoever you choose. Yeah. Being prideful and just
00:32:32.880
sticking to your beliefs. And honestly, anyone doing their part to vote, it's important for
00:32:36.900
a fair and a safe election. Yep. So you guys are voting? We are, yeah. Now, how many of you,
00:32:42.120
is this your first presidential election? First one, first one, first one, all these guys. There
00:32:46.500
was another young guy over here. First presidential election. This guy over here. I love this. Okay,
00:32:51.440
guys. And you're all registered. Now, are you guys doing anything on campus, TPUSA? Are you just
00:32:56.320
talking to your friends? How are you guys getting everybody pumped up to vote? I'm not really sure.
00:33:01.000
We're not really talking to anyone about it, but most of... This is your homework. This is your
00:33:06.940
homework. Okay. Come to these events. So this is it to everybody out there who's watching. It's fun
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to come to a Trump rally. It's fun to get pumped up. You got to get your cup filled, but then you take
00:33:15.820
your cup and then you go and you share it with others. So you guys are in college. How often, honest
00:33:21.860
answer, how often do you actually wear your MAGA hats on campus? Would you feel comfortable doing that?
00:33:27.220
Never. Never. Never. Okay. I want to challenge you guys. You got it today? You got it last night? Okay.
00:33:33.900
They got new MAGA hats. You guys, your homework. I want to challenge you. Have the courage, even if
00:33:39.940
you're the only guy wearing it, wear it on campus and see the reaction. And then I want you to film
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that reaction and share it with us and see if you get love from the left or if you get something else.
00:33:48.900
Cool? Cool. I think we all know what we're going to get. Well, hey, but then I bet you,
00:33:53.860
I bet you you're going to get more love than you think. Okay, Ben. Sorry. Go ahead. Yes, sir.
00:33:59.320
Absolutely outstanding. Thanks for this. I think you've given us all a huge lift.
00:34:03.440
Absolutely outstanding. We'll talk to you later to see how everything went.
00:34:07.420
Sounds good. Thanks, Ben. Ben Bergkram. Legendary Ben Bergkram.
00:34:12.120
That really has given us all a lift. Look, the big, I think one of the big things now on the agenda
00:34:17.400
is the VP debate this evening. Let's see if that moves the needle a little bit. To break this down,
00:34:22.880
obviously, the best person we can talk to is Josh Hammer from Newsweek magazine. Josh,
00:34:28.020
good morning to you. Tell us, I hear some of this mood music coming out from the Harris
00:34:34.140
Walls campaign trying to tamp down expectations slightly on their side. What is your analysis
00:34:43.800
flagging up for you? Yeah, Ben, it was great to join you. So, you know, we had this oppo dump come
00:34:51.700
out yesterday where it comes out that Tim Walls, Tiananmen Tin, has even closer ties to the Chinese
00:34:56.840
Communist Party and the Beijing Polyper than I think any of us had realized. It's the guy who has spent
00:35:01.260
a lot of time in communist China over the years. You know, he infamously said just a few months ago
00:35:07.020
that one person's socialism is another person's neighborliness. You know, the current stripe of
00:35:13.480
far-left Democrat, Ben, I'm increasingly not even sure that socialist actually is the proper term.
00:35:19.860
I mean, we're talking here about full-fledged commies. I mean, this is kind of this post-Bernie
00:35:24.200
Sanders milieu. Bernie Sanders infamously honeymooned in the Soviet Union. He flew a hammer and sickle
00:35:29.500
Soviet flag in his mayoral office in Burlington, Vermont. Tim Walls is very much of that same ilk.
00:35:34.940
This is someone who, you know, who looks probably a little closer to Mao Zedong than to Joseph
00:35:39.400
Stalin, but it's getting at the same thing here. So, you know, they're tamping down expectations
00:35:44.240
because, you know, they throw out Tim Walls as kind of this likable, he's a folksy, that's the
00:35:51.040
word that gets trotted out a lot. He's from the Midwest there. What I want to see tonight,
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because Tim Walls comes, he's born in Nebraska, came to political prominence in Minnesota.
00:35:59.280
J.D. Vance is from Ohio. Those are kind of the two of the peripheries of the broader Midwest.
00:36:03.760
I want to see a battle royale tonight for the Rust Belt. I want to see a one-on-one just throwdown
00:36:10.560
for those voters in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin there. Let's talk about all the issues
00:36:15.020
those voters care about. Inflation, economy, auto industry, manufacturing, jobs, energy,
00:36:20.120
liquefied natural gas, fracking. I want to see as much of that as possible. And if that is the
00:36:24.840
terrain on which tonight's battle is fought, I think J.D. Vance is going to clean his clock.
00:36:28.160
Yeah, you hit the nail absolutely on the head there. That's exactly where the debate should be.
00:36:34.080
And we know that's where the debate should be, because at the beginning of the show,
00:36:38.280
Rachel Maddow was trying to steer the debate away from that, which is where she knows they're the
00:36:44.080
weakest. So she was sort of flagging up on MSNBC that Walls should hit Vance on J.D. on some of the
00:36:54.340
texts he sent criticising Donald Trump like five, six years ago, because they're desperate not to
00:37:02.160
talk about the economy and they're desperate not to talk about the border. No, we just heard it there
00:37:06.500
in Wisconsin. Those are the number one issues, the economy, the border, the border, the economy.
00:37:11.640
And the Democrats in a desperate play to distract are trying to say, talk about what J.D. said to a
00:37:18.520
friend about Donald Trump a couple of years ago. If Walls does that, do you think he's finished?
00:37:23.780
Do you think they campaigned that if they get this, if he gets the tone wrong, do you think this
00:37:29.400
could move the needle? Yeah, look, I mean, I think it could on the margin. I mean, the reason among
00:37:35.720
look, I mean, I personally wrote an op-ed back in March saying that J.D. Vance should be the vice
00:37:40.180
president's nominee. So I've been calling this for a long time. But I think that one of the reasons
00:37:43.700
that Trump campaign ultimately picked him is for moments just like this for tonight to really kind of
00:37:49.360
try to go after that voter that I just described, those swing voters in those three rust belt states
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above all, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. And that really is where the election is gonna
00:37:59.360
come down to. The last time I looked at the polls in those sun belt states, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia,
00:38:05.020
North Carolina, Trump continues to be in fairly good shape there. It's a little closer than it
00:38:09.020
should be. But overall, he's looking pretty good in those states. So it's gonna come down to those
00:38:12.920
three rust belt states. And Democrats are playing on very defensive terrain. You know,
00:38:17.520
to this day, Ben, I'm actually still surprised that Democrats pulled the coup, the swap of Biden
00:38:21.920
for Harris than they did. Because Joe Biden, for all of his downsides there, he still talked about
00:38:26.760
being, you know, from Scranton, Pennsylvania. He tried to resonate with those, especially primarily
00:38:31.020
Catholic blue collar voters there in northeastern Pennsylvania, perhaps above all there.
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So if J.D. Vance can make a direct play for those voters' hearts, which he is uniquely well
00:38:40.180
equipped to do due to his biography, due to his background, Hillbilly Elegy. He has literally
00:38:44.900
led this life there. He has the right policy prescriptions moving forward as well there.
00:38:49.260
I think that this absolutely could move the needle. I mean, we're in the home stretch here.
00:38:53.900
I mean, the calendar moved to October. Hard to believe. This is it. I mean, this is crunch time.
00:38:58.960
This is time to make a final argument to the people. As you just said, every single poll from
00:39:04.220
Gallup Pew, every major reputable pollster we have ever seen over the course of this election cycle,
00:39:08.420
they always say that the most important issues for the voters are economy, inflation,
00:39:12.900
and immigration. Those are the big three. Crime is usually four. All of these issues,
00:39:17.920
all of these issues play exceptionally well for the Trump Vance ticket and exceptionally poorly for
00:39:23.200
the Harris-Waltz ticket. Let's talk about George Floyd while we're out of there. I mentioned crime
00:39:28.060
there. Tim Walls was obviously the guy above all who let the Antifa Black Lives Matter riots get out
00:39:34.120
of control when he was fanning the flames there in Minneapolis. After George Floyd's death,
00:39:38.200
he was failing to call in the Minnesota state guard. And J.D. Vance has a great opportunity
00:39:42.600
to pin him down on that terrain as well. The big question is gonna be the moderators. I mean,
00:39:46.840
we all saw what happened in the last ABC News debate with Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.
00:39:51.960
I suspect that CBS is paying attention to how vociferous the backlash was against ABC News there.
00:39:59.700
And I think CBS overall, look, it's corporate media. They're obviously gonna be pro-Kamala,
00:40:04.360
but probably not as far down the rabbit hole as those moderators at ABC was. But that really is
00:40:10.980
kind of the million-dollar question. I mean, are they gonna do the same thing all over again
00:40:14.960
that the last two moderators did? I think it's gonna be not quite as bad, but the moderators can
00:40:19.100
make a big difference in a debate like this. Josh, can you give me a minute on whether you think the
00:40:25.400
hurricane, hurricane Helen is going to make any impact at all on the election?
00:40:32.860
I absolutely think so. And that is fair game, certainly, for tonight's VP debate as well.
00:40:38.040
Look, this is the Biden-Harris administration's Hurricane Katrina moment. You know, back in 2005,
00:40:43.320
George W. Bush was smeared, smeared by Kanye West as not caring about black people infamously. I mean,
00:40:49.500
it was a lie then. It is a lie today. I have any number of criticisms of Bush's policies,
00:40:53.500
but the man is not a racist. But he had that image where he was flying over Louisiana.
00:40:58.580
This is their Katrina. This is a DEI equity, anti-racism, obsessed administration.
00:41:04.640
There are now disproportionately primarily poor Appalachian white people that are dying in North
00:41:10.000
Carolina, Tennessee, tragically, Georgia, Virginia, that part of the country. And they're
00:41:14.600
out to lunch. Joe Biden's on the beach. Kamala Harris is staging fake photo ops where she's pretending
00:41:19.540
to be on the phone. Her headphones are not even plugged into her phone. That photo we all saw
00:41:23.340
yesterday. These optics matter. I mean, these are the images that people circulate. They text their
00:41:27.820
church group. I mean, this stuff absolutely does matter. Even if you're actually doing something
00:41:32.460
behind the scenes, if you publicly project, if the optics are such that you're not in command
00:41:37.520
of a situation, that can absolutely spiral out of control. This is October. Like I said,
00:41:42.020
this is all on the table there. I think it's a huge political albatross around the neck
00:41:46.100
for this current administration, which very much includes Kamala Harris.
00:41:48.800
Incredible. Josh, thanks. Come back on the show perhaps tomorrow and give us your breakdown
00:41:56.540
of the debate. In the meantime, where do people go to get hold of your writing, your editorials,
00:42:07.280
Yeah, thanks as always, Ben. So I'm on xjosh underscore hammer. Instagram is joshbhammer. I write
00:42:11.620
a weekly syndicated column that goes up in Newsweek and a bunch of other conservative publications.
00:42:15.960
Then I host two shows, The Josh Hammer Show and America on Trial with Josh Hammer. And then also
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go to thearticle3project.org to check out our lawfare front.
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Perfect. Josh Hammer, thanks so much. Catch up again with you soon. God bless. Back in two minutes.
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great pal of mine over many, many years. You're the producer of Government Gangsters, this film.
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Tell me you had a viewing in Vegas over the weekend. How did that go down?
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Well, it went great, Ben, and it's great to see you. Thanks for having me on. We've been going around
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phenomenal event. It was really great. Filled out two theaters. And, you know, we usually typically
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will do Q&As after the film. And in this particular one, let's say the audience was very animated.
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You know, we like to make war films when we do these things, you know, Clinton Cash and Generation
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Zero, those types of things. It's really to inform the audience about what's going on and, you know,
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in the sort of, you know, beneath, behind the scenes of what's, you know, how things really operate.
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And we do that particularly well in Government Gangsters. And the audience was, they were actually,
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the energy was palpable. They were very angry, very upset, which I can understand, you know,
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and Nevada being such a key state for us that's in play. You know, sometimes the audience is looking
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for direct answers. How do they do this? Who's going to help us? How's the campaign going to do
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this? And it really, you know, we like to think of our films as a kind of an arrow in your quiver
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of things to understand. This gives you an actual blueprint of how the deep state operates and so
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that they can see and understand these events. You know, when you talk about Russiagate, Ukraine
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impeachment and those things, there's a certain way that these things develop. And we really go through
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a whole blueprint, excuse me, blueprint of how that happens so that they can understand it and jump in
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front of it even and hold these people accountable. But at the end of the day, really, it comes down to
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you. There is nobody coming to save you. It's each individual that is responsible for doing their own
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you and all your friends, your family, your social media contacts. You've just got to put this word
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make a difference. And the fact is, they absolutely can. Dan, you're absolutely right. It is making a
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there in Vegas. She told me that the atmosphere was absolutely electric. Quickly, where do people go
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if they want to know more about the film, the showing in their area? Sure thing. So the best
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place to go is war room dot film. That's where you can get all the information. I'm really proud
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Dan Fluitt, producer of Government Gangsters. Thanks very much for coming on the show.
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God bless. The final two minutes of the show, Mike Lindell. Mike, good morning to you. Give us
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