Bannon's War Room - Episode 4057： RFK Is Appointed Head Of HHS

00:00:00.560 Sources tell NBC News that the president-elect, Donald Trump, is expected to pick Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to be the Secretary of Health and Human Services.

00:00:11.840 Trump had previously promised RFK a, quote, big role after RFK abandoned his independent bid for president and endorsed Donald Trump.

00:00:20.440 The New York Times describes him like this as a, quote, environmental lawyer who has no medical or public health degrees and has promoted anti-vaccine conspiracies for years, end quote.

00:00:32.640 Regarding the Food and Drug Administration, the agency that is responsible for the safety of our prescriptions, vaccines, cosmetics, our food, even veterinary medicine, an agency that would be under his purview, RFK has said that, quote, entire departments have to go.

00:00:50.440 Let's bring into our breaking news coverage former Obama White House policy director, MSNBC medical contributor, Dr. Kavita Patel.

00:00:57.560 Dr. Patel, your first reaction.

00:01:01.120 Oh, my God. I mean, those of us who have spent our, like, lifetime kind of decades working in and around in HHS, I'm not kidding, Nicole.

00:01:09.820 My texts are flying off the chain, both Democrats and Republicans, saying this can't be real.

00:01:14.600 Someone must have gotten this wrong. This can't be possible.

00:01:17.480 And now the second underlying chain, there's some silver linings.

00:01:20.820 The second thought I had is he can't get confirmed, can he?

00:01:23.820 But I'm just listening to you talk about the DNI and all these other roles that require some sort of White House or confirmation or some combination.

00:01:32.980 And here we are.

00:01:34.400 It is really hard to believe.

00:01:35.960 There are career staff texting me saying this was just the push they needed to try to get out.

00:01:40.580 They were already on the fence and worried.

00:01:43.160 We're not just going to see this incredible kind of, you know, integration of ideology that has no science behind it.

00:01:51.080 But, Nicole, we're going to see probably the best of the best career staff leave, leaving these agencies potentially hollow that he would oversee.

00:01:58.960 What are your issues specifically with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as HHS secretary?

00:02:04.460 We understand he's completely and totally unqualified as it relates to protecting the health, the safety and the well-being of the American people.

00:02:13.300 We have a lot of challenges emerging from the pandemic.

00:02:16.500 We need serious folks with a serious background and serious expertise.

00:02:23.040 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is, of course, none of the above.

00:02:27.020 Just for people that aren't familiar with how HHS interacts with the medical community and people's lives, just take us through a little bit of that, if you will.

00:02:36.580 Yeah, so the Secretary of Health and Human Services, as you mentioned, has a purview over many agencies that touch our lives.

00:02:43.260 You just touched on a couple of them, Food and Drug Administration, the CDC, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

00:02:49.360 You may, like, kind of know these letters as we've talked about all vaccines and things during COVID, but it touches everything.

00:02:55.160 Nicole touches our food supply chain.

00:02:57.560 I'll give you an example.

00:02:58.620 When we had a supply chain shortage of baby formula, this hits a lot of people at home because none of the shelves could keep the formula stocked.

00:03:06.800 It's the HHS secretary who kind of pulled it all together and worked with other departments to try to make sure that we could get Americans' formula just to feed their children.

00:03:16.440 Add into that just all the research.

00:03:18.340 Think of the National Institutes of Health, Nicole.

00:03:20.260 That's also under HHS.

00:03:21.980 Research on drug development.

00:03:23.560 And I actually pulled up, just to remind myself, a tweet from RFK Jr. when he was running for president where he said that if he were president, I guess, thank goodness he's not, he'd stop research on drug development and infectious diseases for eight years.

00:03:36.860 And I think he was proud of that.

00:03:38.040 So anything that you do in the medical community, and then let me tell you where it hits home.

00:03:42.720 During COVID, you and I have talked about the Medical Reserve Corps and the Public Health Service Agency, all the people who actually help to facilitate getting vaccines across the country, getting COVID tests across the country, that's under HHS as well.

00:03:57.420 So anything from a safety net clinic to the medicines that you trust are safe, that is now potentially going to be under this environmental lawyer with no training whatsoever and very dangerous views.

00:04:12.420 And I trust my pediatrician with that.

00:04:14.980 RFK has criticized childhood vaccination schedules, linked vaccines to autism and other health issues against studies.

00:04:22.640 CDC Director Rochelle Walensky warned in 2022 that vaccine misinformation is one of the biggest threats to children's health.

00:04:31.880 In the sort of pickled community of anti-vax disinformation, there are people that refuse vaccines and there are outbreaks of polio and measles in this country, diseases that were once thought eradicated.

00:04:47.620 What should people watching do if they have young kids?

00:04:50.740 I do think that if there is any solace, it's what you just said, that as doctors, we're trained.

00:04:58.360 So we are trained.

00:05:00.080 I know that we've talked about doctors in many states not being allowed to talk about certain issues.

00:05:05.020 I really hope and pray that vaccines and public health do not become another set of issues in addition to reproductive and women's health.

00:05:12.020 But right now, your pediatricians, your primary care doctors, they have your best interest.

00:05:16.500 They treat you in front of them, and they're not worried about the politics.

00:05:19.520 In fact, I bet most of my medical colleagues don't even realize what's happening because they're doing what they should be doing and taking care of people.

00:05:27.000 So I do think that it's worth just having that direct conversation with your pediatrician.

00:05:32.280 And I also do encourage people to look at the evidence.

00:05:34.220 I do not try to dismiss people when they talk to me about concerns about vaccines, but it's worth bringing back up that initial study that has been since debunked and refuted.

00:05:43.740 And, in fact, journals have retracted any of the mentions, not because they're afraid, but because we want to put good science forward.

00:05:51.080 And, Nicole, I'm all for telling you that we could probably do things differently.

00:05:54.920 I know that I've talked with my own pediatrician, with my children, about do we need to do all of these vaccines in this one visit?

00:06:01.820 Do we spread it across two visits?

00:06:04.280 All of those conversations are appropriate, but that is not what we're talking about.

00:06:08.100 That's not what RFK Jr. is talking about.

00:06:10.080 He's talking about implying a direct causality between vaccines and autism and, in addition to that, other claims that we have.

00:06:17.540 And then he couches it by saying he's not anti-vax.

00:06:20.360 He's just anti all the vaccines that we currently have, which is effectively being anti-vaccine.

00:06:28.300 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:06:33.220 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:06:38.440 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:06:42.700 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:06:44.600 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:06:45.780 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:06:48.740 It's going to happen.

00:06:50.020 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:06:53.400 Mega Media.

00:06:54.740 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:07:00.160 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:07:03.960 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:07:10.140 War Room.

00:07:11.160 Here's your host, Stephen K. Banff.

00:07:15.780 It's Thursday, 14 November in the year of our Lord, 2024.

00:07:21.480 No, it is not December 25th.

00:07:25.660 It may feel like it, but it's not December 25th.

00:07:29.520 Absolutely another blockbuster.

00:07:33.000 This is Trump.

00:07:34.420 Let Trump be Trump.

00:07:36.380 Just absolutely incredible.

00:07:37.760 Today, RFK Jr., a warrior against Big Pharma, the corrupting influence of Big Pharma, the corrupting money of Big Pharma.

00:07:47.620 Man, oh man, if RFK gets his way, MSNBC will just be a test pattern because all they do is feed off those Big Pharma ads. 0.92

00:07:56.600 That's why they protect Big Pharma all the time.

00:07:58.240 Just absolutely incredible, incredible, incredible, incredible.

00:08:01.700 President Trump announces that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. will be the next Secretary of Health and Human Services.

00:08:10.640 And man, this guy's an innovator, got amazing ideas.

00:08:13.940 Think of that.

00:08:14.460 With Gates, Tulsi Gabbard, and the whole up until this, all day, full meltdown.

00:08:19.700 Full meltdown on Gates, full meltdown on Pete Hegseth, full meltdown on Tulsi Gabbard, full meltdown now on Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

00:08:28.600 Darren Beattie from Revolver.

00:08:30.720 Brother, it just gets better every day.

00:08:33.460 Everything we fought for is these people and coming together and just going to be an incredible powerhouse.

00:08:41.720 Walk me through your first thoughts on RFK and then the entire cabinet.

00:08:47.580 Well, RFK, I'm elated to hear the news.

00:08:50.720 I'm so happy that he stepped into the fold.

00:08:53.160 He stepped into the arena.

00:08:54.920 He knew where he could do the most good for the country, and that was through Donald Trump.

00:08:59.560 He made a very intelligent choice, and I think there's no sector, obviously, in which he's more qualified to assist the country, to assist the mandate that the American people have spoken, and that's through health.

00:09:16.020 Take care of big pharma.

00:09:18.140 You know, it didn't used to be the case that we're such a fat country.

00:09:22.360 It's not just an aesthetic issue.

00:09:24.120 It's a health issue.

00:09:25.020 It gets to all sorts of ramifications that are of significance to the country.

00:09:29.560 He wants to get to the bottom of it.

00:09:31.040 He wants to correct it, and I think make America healthy again is a precondition to make America great again, and so I think it's an exceptional choice.

00:09:40.340 He's the right guy.

00:09:41.700 My understanding is big pharma is terrified, and they should be.

00:09:48.160 What is the administrative state and the deep state's obvious meltdown?

00:09:52.840 They're showing their weakness because now you can smell the fear.

00:09:56.660 Walk me through it, Darren Beattie.

00:09:57.820 Well, they're terrified, and I have to say they're terrified across the board, but I don't think anything compares to the seismic reaction to the Matt Gaetz appointment.

00:10:10.920 I mean, if you want to—this is how you want the corrupt, filthy, and criminal system to react to an appointment.

00:10:19.140 They all know they're guilty, and they all know what's coming.

00:10:23.460 You know, saying the DOJ, this is the epicenter of the swamp in many ways because, yes, there's been malfeasance across the board, across the bureaucracies.

00:10:33.240 But in the case, you know, you kind of expect the intelligence world to be dirty.

00:10:39.560 We just want them to be dirty for once on behalf of American interests.

00:10:44.520 But you expect them to be dirty.

00:10:46.400 But the justice system, you know, this gets to the core of our self-conception as Americans, is that we're a country governed by the rule of law, by a fair system.

00:10:59.160 Justice is blind, the whole deal.

00:11:01.080 And that has been eroded to the very core by Biden, by Harris, by the corrupt cronies, by Obama.

00:11:12.600 They have absolutely plundered the justice system to the point that that core beacon of legitimacy that we used to think defines us in contradistinction to the rest of the world no longer is there.

00:11:27.520 And it was the first time is only when the justice system itself became corrupted that you started to hear this term banana republic referring to the United States.

00:11:38.080 That's why I think in the massive and absolutely critical swamp draining operation, the most important is the one at justice.

00:11:48.920 And as I've said before, there's no person more fitting, more suited, both in terms of intelligence, capability and personal understanding than Matt Gaetz to do this.

00:12:01.340 And, you know, don't take my word for it. 0.99

00:12:03.580 Take the word of all the corrupt, filth, criminal trash, how they're reacting to this. 1.00

00:12:13.080 And that says everything you need to know. 0.98

00:12:15.000 Before I let you bounce, you also had a great piece the other day.

00:12:20.280 We haven't had a chance to get to it about Scott Besson at Treasury.

00:12:24.060 Walk me through it.

00:12:25.480 Yes.

00:12:25.900 So we're supporting Scott Besson for Treasury.

00:12:29.020 There's a lot of reasons for that.

00:12:30.560 And, you know, I think one of the things that distinguishes this time around from last time is, yeah, the last time there were some exceptional people, you know, I would hope, you know, us included.

00:12:42.280 But Trump went after the entire system and basically every institution in the world was actuated against him.

00:12:50.800 And when he won, it was like there was a choice between people to a large degree whose heart was in the right place but didn't know how to navigate the system and ultimately got smothered by the system.

00:13:02.520 And the alternative would be system people who are not with the agenda.

00:13:07.000 I think the Venn diagram of the overlap between people whose heart is in the right place, who are loyal to the agenda, who are interested in implementing the mandate and the people who have the capability and understanding of the system.

00:13:21.760 That Venn diagram, the intersection is bigger.

00:13:24.760 And I think Scott Besson is certainly someone who stands very prominently in that intersection as someone with an exceptional career in finance, masterminded, one of the greatest, most legendary trades in history, understands the currencies, understands the markets, the things you need to navigate, not just to make the country rich,

00:13:43.860 but also the things you need to understand where the pressure points are because people forget the dollar and our economy is increasingly a tool of geopolitics that needs to be used intelligently.

00:13:56.280 Otherwise, we're going to undermine ourself.

00:13:58.280 He's someone who understands that.

00:13:59.960 Maybe equally, if not more important, after Trump has taken down one foe after another, one of the people standing that remains to be dealt with is Powell, the Fed chair, with whom Trump has had a contentious relationship.

00:14:15.080 And I think by far, Besson is the most capable in terms of assisting Trump in navigating whatever Powell has in mind.

00:14:23.300 So those are just some of the reasons.

00:14:26.520 Perfect.

00:14:27.420 How do people read it?

00:14:28.680 Where do they go to Revolver?

00:14:29.580 Or what's your social media?

00:14:31.000 Read the full piece at Revolver.News.

00:14:33.500 We're breaking at the cutting edge of all these incredible developments.

00:14:37.020 Revolver.News.

00:14:38.220 I'm at Twitter, at Darren J. Beattie.

00:14:42.560 Thank you, brother.

00:14:43.520 Appreciate you.

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00:16:14.160 Republicans have officially retained control of the House, securing a governing trifecta late last night.

00:16:21.600 But what an epic fail by Democrats.

00:16:23.880 Hakeem Jeffrey says, hey, this is on me.

00:16:25.760 I was unable to do it.

00:16:26.780 They had more money.

00:16:27.960 They had more time.

00:16:29.680 And they had this young leader that they said was going to be their future unable to flip it.

00:16:35.200 We have a mandate for the American people.

00:16:38.120 A mandate not only to clean up the mess left by the Biden-Harris-Schumer agenda, but also to deliver on President Trump's priorities.

00:16:47.660 Okay, welcome back.

00:16:52.620 Naomi is going to join us in a second. 0.98

00:16:54.120 As soon as we get her booted up, talk about RFK. 0.98

00:16:57.940 Alex DeGrasse joins us.

00:16:59.000 They announced yesterday, NBC, CNN, Fox, all of them.

00:17:02.180 They called the House race.

00:17:03.580 We've officially taken the House.

00:17:05.460 DeGrasse, they're saying it's 218 to what, 215 with a couple undecided.

00:17:11.820 Where do you say we are?

00:17:12.700 Because you called this brother a week ago.

00:17:15.820 And we knew we were going to win because Alex DeGrasse said it.

00:17:19.260 And you can take Alex DeGrasse to the, you can take what he says to the bank.

00:17:22.820 Where are we, brother?

00:17:24.520 I did say I think we had the path to net two or three.

00:17:28.160 That no longer is the case.

00:17:29.560 I'll hold myself to that.

00:17:30.680 But regardless, I said we were going to win, frankly, with no one else.

00:17:34.680 Not Fox News, not NBC, which we were really upset about.

00:17:39.420 The fact that they wouldn't, you know, we've got guys out there and females explaining everything to the networks. 1.00

00:17:44.240 Like, hey, this is the path.

00:17:45.300 Here's what's going on.

00:17:46.680 And while it's gotten tighter for us, we've got 218 right now, according to Associated Press.

00:17:52.120 Iowa won.

00:17:52.720 We've got Marinette Miller-Meeks, and she's up by 900 votes. 1.00

00:17:56.040 The Dems are forcing a recount.

00:17:58.080 It's going to be fine.

00:17:59.460 That gets us to 219.

00:18:01.220 We're currently at 221 right now.

00:18:03.080 That's three seats, six total votes.

00:18:05.700 And Alaska, we're up.

00:18:08.320 We just got more results, I think, a couple hours ago.

00:18:11.100 The Democrat has to win 80% going forward.

00:18:13.580 So our guy, Nick, will continue to gain with the ranked choice.

00:18:16.860 That gets us to 220 in the bag, which is a net loss of one.

00:18:20.740 And then you've got two outstanding in California.

00:18:24.200 California 45, which is Micelle Steele.

00:18:26.620 It looks tough, but we're praying.

00:18:28.240 We're hopeful.

00:18:28.740 She's in the game.

00:18:29.920 It's probably a flip of the coin at this point.

00:18:32.060 And then you've got Duarte in Central Valley in California 13.

00:18:36.620 We feel great about it, certainly in our favor with California, Steve.

00:18:40.840 You just don't know.

00:18:41.880 I mean, these are brutal.

00:18:43.500 All of Team Elise.

00:18:44.840 I mean, we've got, I think, eight people on the ground in Fresno driving around carrying ballots.

00:18:51.080 And there's about 400 ballots on the board.

00:18:52.880 And America PAC and Elon Musk group is out there on the NRCC.

00:18:57.440 And I wish I was out there.

00:18:59.000 But a lot of Patriots, they're working, doing, frankly, God's work out there, carrying the ballots, in the room on the recounts.

00:19:05.200 And just, you know, we're barely holding on.

00:19:07.200 But we held on, Steve.

00:19:08.160 And I think it's really important that everyone reflect.

00:19:10.860 Because the House is, as we've been saying, it's just a total knife fight.

00:19:14.760 And these seats are just brutal in California and New York.

00:19:17.940 I mean, they throw everything they can at us, and they run really sophisticated ops.

00:19:22.740 I mean, really complex.

00:19:25.000 And the last month, it really heated up.

00:19:26.800 I mean, a lot of people focused on going forward, which I'm happy to be focused on, the next election, which is already starting now.

00:19:35.900 Where do we then stand?

00:19:37.720 This will come down at the end of the day at the 220 number you told us or higher?

00:19:42.240 Well, it could be 221, which is where we are most likely, which is where we're at right now.

00:19:50.580 If something crazy happens, we could be at 220.

00:19:52.980 I mean, if something good happens, we could net one seat, right, depending on Michelle Steele, which is kind of up in the air.

00:20:01.180 But, you know, the betting market shows that she has to get the margins right now. 0.97

00:20:06.380 But it's roughly 221 to 214.

00:20:08.760 Is that where we're going to end up, you think?

00:20:10.080 Yeah, yeah.

00:20:11.040 Yeah.

00:20:12.240 Yeah.

00:20:13.200 So that gives us basically a three—that gives us three-seat—that's three-seat wiggle room.

00:20:19.440 What happens when Gates—

00:20:20.720 We're going to need to pick up—

00:20:21.780 Exactly.

00:20:22.280 —and Stefanik—

00:20:23.000 We're going to need to pick up some Dems. 0.99

00:20:25.040 I mean, that's the key is I think with RFK, I think it's really interesting, and I've heard about some of their plans on making America healthy again.

00:20:32.460 And I think there's going to be a very sort of big—

00:20:36.840 I think that kind of is where we land on moving forward.

00:20:40.580 And I think Republicans are going to really have to focus on the results, move very quickly in the House and Senate to pass the agenda, to begin selling President Trump's magna agenda to the voters.

00:20:51.220 Okay, but hang on.

00:20:52.760 I got a problem before we get to the agenda.

00:20:57.280 Gates has resigned.

00:20:58.620 When does Stefanik and Walls resign?

00:21:00.320 When they get into the confirmation process?

00:21:02.140 They won't resign until the end of the—they'll play their hand out to the end of this Congress?

00:21:06.940 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:08.500 They're going to—everything's in coordination with President Trump's team and the Speaker in the House, and everything's going to work out on that front.

00:21:14.640 And it's all going to be in sync, and it will move very quickly, especially with the vacancies.

00:21:20.360 Okay, fine.

00:21:21.040 That's—no worries.

00:21:22.180 90 days by law in New York State at the latest, not by 70.

00:21:27.160 Young man, you did an amazing job in working to get this majority, to hold the majority, and also to nail it every step of the way, what we're going to get.

00:21:37.240 Where do people get you on social media, brother?

00:21:39.840 I'm at DeGrasse81 on X, DeGrasse, at DeGrasse on Getter.

00:21:44.060 I will say, Steve, I don't know if you were playing Fox or NBC because I'm on the phone, but not only did they outspend us, I mean, these guys probably outspend like four to one in many areas.

00:21:53.020 And I'm telling you, we have to, as a party, really dig deep.

00:21:57.360 Thank God for Elon Musk.

00:21:58.700 We need more people like Adnan front because we need to start playing this multidimensional political warfare that they play.

00:22:06.100 We can talk more about that later.

00:22:07.240 But thank you, Steve, for having me on.

00:22:08.640 And thank you to the posse that really got this done and were the political muscle.

00:22:13.320 The phone calls, the doors.

00:22:14.680 Thank you, everyone.

00:22:16.500 Unbelievable.

00:22:17.480 The political muscle.

00:22:19.120 Okay, man, great job, Alex DeGrasse.

00:22:21.060 We'll come back on and talk about the sophisticated 4-D chess political warfare of the radical Democrats and their big money donors on Wall Street in Silicon Valley.

00:22:31.300 Thank you, man.

00:22:31.980 Appreciate you.

00:22:35.740 Wow.

00:22:37.280 It's official hold.

00:22:39.360 Gets a little dicey with these three.

00:22:40.800 Got to be very good.

00:22:41.500 Got to work on thin line there, particularly all the votes that got to take place.

00:22:44.880 It's between now and when Congress, at least for Christmas, if they leave at all, and then coming back to new Congress on the 3rd.

00:22:52.460 Naomi Wolf, holy mackerel. 0.99

00:22:56.840 Unbelievable.

00:22:58.880 Just, I can't, I mean, tell me, you've been at this for so long.

00:23:04.660 You've put so much at risk.

00:23:06.220 Talk to me what this day means to you, what RFK, the announcement means to you, and, I mean, just how big it is.

00:23:15.300 It really is a new day in America.

00:23:18.040 And, you know, with any incredible gift, I think a lot of caution has to be displayed, a lot of discipline.

00:23:27.940 And, you know, I hope that the leadership and all the people aligning with leadership really think about that, that the most important thing is to carry this incredible alliance safely, you know, into and through the inauguration and not, as a friend of mine said, quite perceptively spike the football, you know, prematurely.

00:23:51.480 But to your point, I cannot, I cannot believe this day has come.

00:23:57.620 It is such a historic, important day that someone with a distinction and background and depth of knowledge of RFK Jr., who is from one of the most storied legacy Democratic families in American history,

00:24:14.340 has joined forces formally with MAGA, with President Trump, with this constellation of great talents that's kind of aligning with President Trump.

00:24:24.040 It means more than just quite a huge thing that the scourge of pharma, pharma's impunity and the scourge of pharma's criminality is going to be in charge of HHS,

00:24:35.680 which is where all the money gets dispensed and which oversees the FDA and where all the crimes got committed.

00:24:41.500 I think it means something bigger.

00:24:44.320 It could mean something bigger.

00:24:45.380 And that's why we have to be so disciplined and so careful of why the leadership does all these talented people,

00:24:52.580 all these aspiring people kind of hovering around the transition right now.

00:24:57.940 It could really mean the solidifying of a realignment of patriots on the left, in the center, on the right, you know,

00:25:07.940 making kind of policy and ideology and labels secondary to, you know, our heartfelt desire to do our best to save our country.

00:25:16.460 And more than to save our country, literally, to save the culture of our country, right, the culture of freedom, the culture of transparency.

00:25:25.280 I mean, having RFK Jr. in charge of HHS is about a culture, you know, going back to the actual science, right?

00:25:33.640 What happened in the trials?

00:25:35.980 What does the evidence say?

00:25:37.620 You know, has money corrupted the process?

00:25:39.600 No one understands the corruption of science, the science, better than RFK Jr.

00:25:44.420 And no one has been more bold and selfless and kind of nerdy, in a good way,

00:25:51.240 in exposing it in vast tones like the real Anthony Fauci with its hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of footnotes,

00:25:57.660 which left no escape for the real Anthony Fauci, right?

00:26:01.380 I mean, it's absolutely stunning.

00:26:04.380 But again, again, I'm sorry to always be Cassandra, right?

00:26:08.680 But that's how you successfully move a giant ship, you know, through a narrow passage into, you know, a beautiful open ocean heading in the right direction.

00:26:21.000 Everyone needs to kind of calm down and write important messages, letters to the American people in The Washington Post, in The New York Times.

00:26:32.160 I'm missing that, right?

00:26:33.660 There's all this incredibly exciting furore of appointments, and people are processing them.

00:26:41.340 But they're coming at us in a bitty way, and no one seems to be in charge, or no one that I can tell, is telling a coherent story to explain to the American people what each of these things means, to put it in context.

00:26:57.960 It's a little light in the comms department.

00:27:00.720 The comms department is great.

00:27:01.760 I think they're overwhelmed.

00:27:02.980 But I was talking to guys today, and I said, you know, President Trump's the best messenger.

00:27:06.060 But, wow, you really need a coordinated comms effort here, right?

00:27:11.020 It's a little light.

00:27:11.760 We're taking incoming.

00:27:13.140 I'm not so sure we're giving.

00:27:15.080 We haven't hit a volley, you know, the, we haven't hit our volley yet.

00:27:19.460 Back.

00:27:20.560 Naomi, hang on there for a second. 0.99

00:27:23.080 I need you to stick around.

00:27:24.280 We're going to talk about this.

00:27:26.020 The last 72 hours.

00:27:29.240 Maybe 48 hours.

00:27:32.040 Historic.

00:27:33.480 Hank Seth at defense.

00:27:36.060 Gates at justice.

00:27:40.380 Tulsi Gabbard with all 17 intelligence agencies reporting to her.

00:27:46.440 And Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

00:27:50.000 at Health and Human Services.

00:27:51.860 The administrative state is under full assault

00:27:55.340 by Donald John Trump and the MAGA movement.

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00:31:24.980 Oh, yes.

00:31:26.520 It's a meltdown.

00:31:27.460 It's official.

00:31:28.240 It's an incredible meltdown.

00:31:30.000 Why is that, Naomi Wolf?

00:31:32.040 Why do our bettors, why are they melting down about RFK and what RFK stands for and the direction he wants to take the country as we make America healthy?

00:31:42.300 Again, maha, ma'am?

00:31:46.160 Yeah.

00:31:46.860 Well, if you look at the org chart for HHS, it explains a lot of why this is such an extraordinary kind of why their heads are exploding, right?

00:31:57.600 Why the meltdown?

00:31:59.660 HHS is massive, right?

00:32:02.460 But it also, it was the vehicle of the lockdowns.

00:32:06.460 It was through HHS that emergency laws were declared and perpetrated on Americans.

00:32:13.140 It was through HHS that people showed up in your town board or your school board to, you know, mask your child.

00:32:20.040 It was through HHS that all of the restrictions of freedom were justified, you know, that we lived through in the lockdowns.

00:32:28.720 And it's also under the umbrella of HHS that all of the crimes were committed that the War Room and Daily Cloud have uncovered in these two years of going through the Pfizer documents.

00:32:41.460 So the FDA is now under RFK Jr.'s leadership.

00:32:46.540 I'm sorry, I can't help laughing with joy when I say that sentence.

00:32:50.060 Of course, the FDA was the evil non-custodian of our health and well-being and food supply and pharmaceutical supply that waved through 450,000 documents that the posse made it possible for us to analyze and that revealed the greatest crime against humanity ever, you know, in the Pfizer papers.

00:33:11.880 So he's in charge of that.

00:33:13.460 And it also means that he has the unredacted records now.

00:33:18.680 He can see every crime that was committed under the FDA's oversight, and he can understand the crimes that were committed.

00:33:26.720 In addition, the CDC is under his oversight now.

00:33:30.860 I mean, it's incredible.

00:33:32.240 And the CDC was also unbelievably corrupt.

00:33:35.820 The CDC was also an arm of what restricted our liberties and what lied to us about the injection and what advocated for illegal mandates.

00:33:46.640 And so and also what what mishandled government data.

00:33:52.260 I mean, one of our colleagues, Henry Ely, Dr. Ely showed that the CDC was illegally farming out government health data, which is your property, to nonprofits that were being tasked with kind of using it to hide bad truths that the CDC wasn't able to hide themselves.

00:34:13.960 So now RFK Jr., who understands the nature of those crimes, is going to be in charge of all of those records and in charge of the messaging.

00:34:21.840 You know, never again, as long as he's in charge of HHS, are you going to see the CDC lie to you as they did about safe and effective, safe and effective, you know, the lies on their website to this day that we've exposed here on this show with the Posse's help about, you know, maybe the injection will give you a little fever or pain at the injection site.

00:34:44.160 OK, OK. But hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. You're going to you're going to have access to this.

00:34:49.620 Are you going to do a formal presentation of everything that the War Room Posse working under Amy Kelly's guidance has done for Daily Cloud?

00:34:58.020 You know, the Pfizer papers, all of it. Are you going to go prepare? You're going to walk through the entire thing, understanding he knows this, but kind of systematically go through?

00:35:05.420 Because, look, there has to be accountability. If we don't have accountability, we can't go forward.

00:35:10.620 You have to find out. You have to go through what they did, how they did it.

00:35:14.860 I mean, this goes to the whole global thing of, you know, Geneva and the World Health Organization.

00:35:19.120 Understand something, folks. None of that's operative anymore.

00:35:22.280 You got RFK. You got Matt Gaetz. You have some hammers.

00:35:26.200 And President Trump's always very focused on this. All the concern we had about the World Health Organization.

00:35:30.560 You got Stefanik. Let me tell you about Elise Stefanik.

00:35:33.480 Like, she's just not going to New York to tear up that clown show in New York or the U.N.

00:35:39.100 She's very focused on Geneva, the engine room of the United Nations, and particularly the World Health Organization.

00:35:44.700 She's got massive investigations. Our money's going to stop going. 1.00

00:35:48.260 They want to know where our cash went before, who stole it, and what they've been doing under the name of the United States of America.

00:35:53.700 But are you going to go, Naomi, to sit down with Kennedy and walk him through all the sins of Fauci?

00:35:59.920 Can I say now Fauci would put his head on a pike? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 1.00

00:36:02.920 No, you can't say that.

00:36:03.800 I don't believe me anymore.

00:36:04.580 Dr. Fauci, I didn't mean it. I know you're all worried about your security.

00:36:09.060 Hey, dude, yo, when Matt Gaetz is attorney general and RFK is head of HHS, that's when I really think you ought to get some, not security, you ought to lawyer up, brother.

00:36:19.740 Naomi Wolf.

00:36:20.300 Well, the other agency that RFK Jr. is now in charge of is NIH, and so all the conflicts of interest that he was able to identify from the outside, he's now going to be able to look into Dr. Fauci's file, essentially, look at his payment records, look at his royalty statements, and see every crime that was committed there.

00:36:43.140 And really importantly for the state of science in America, NIH funds, you know, what, 80, 90 percent of the research in the United States at universities.

00:36:53.360 And he's going to make sure that it's clean research and not dirty research and not illegal research like the kind we've seen with the Wuhan lab.

00:37:02.420 Yes, if RFK Jr. calls me and Amy Kelly, I will, we will go and we will present him with our beautiful book that the Posse and you made possible, the Pfizer papers, and we'll create a presentation and walk him through the key points that we found.

00:37:18.440 But it's my understanding that Senator Johnson is actively spearheading an effort to dig into what we found and what other independent researchers have found in terms of the crimes committed by Pfizer through the FDA and that he's leading the charge on that.

00:37:37.200 And I'm sure he can see more about where he's at with that.

00:37:39.580 Naomi, did you ever envision, when you started asking questions about all this back in, I guess, 2020, that it would end up four years later or four and a half years later with RFK?

00:37:58.020 Did Donald Trump would have just won a massive landslide bringing all types of ethnicities and working groups together and that RFK would be announced as his secretary of health and human services and that you either would go work over there or have some sort of role in shaping the direction of all this going forward?

00:38:19.800 In a billion years, could you have ever envisioned that?

00:38:22.180 I mean, no, not projecting at normal human eye level, but if you read enough history, you see that there are bizarre, imponderable reversals that, I mean, Shakespeare was really good, right, on the bizarre, imponderable reversals in human history.

00:38:44.120 And fate is a funny wench.

00:38:49.300 And sometimes you think the winners will win forever and the God or the universe or providence just turns everything upside down.

00:38:58.480 And the people who stood fast and fought the good fight and tried to save lives, you know, get put in a position of absolute leadership.

00:39:06.840 The only thing I would say, and I know you don't like it when I do this, but, you know, I am a Jewish lady and we just believe in, you know, don't celebrate till you're over the finish line.

00:39:19.360 So I'm very happy, but I will party after inauguration, right?

00:39:24.420 I just think we've got to steer straight ahead and include.

00:39:27.360 No, no, this is, yeah, this is seize the institutions now and close these deals.

00:39:33.120 Hey, there's a lot of rough water just to get confirmations.

00:39:36.800 There's going to be more rough water to seize the institutions, particularly HHS, the Fauci-laden, you know, the Fauci-infested HHS.

00:39:45.660 So, no, this, and then once you get in to implement what you're going to do, it's going to be a gale force headwind.

00:39:51.800 It's going to be incredible.

00:39:53.320 How do people go to get all your writings on these topics?

00:39:55.580 You've been, the work you've done over the last number of years has been incredible.

00:40:00.480 The group's done, the Warren Posse's love working with you guys.

00:40:03.680 Where do people go?

00:40:05.620 Well, Steve, I want to thank you.

00:40:07.860 You know, if you hadn't let me come on your show two years ago, plus after I was completely silenced, none of the Pfizer documents work we've all done together with the Posse would have been possible.

00:40:22.600 So, you know, I really want to thank you.

00:40:24.280 And also, it's really nice that you're not in prison anymore.

00:40:26.980 I'm really glad that you're back helping America figure out what's happening and what they need to do next.

00:40:33.340 That's an incredibly joyful thing that we can all celebrate.

00:40:36.720 What do people need to do?

00:40:39.280 Our book is more timely than ever.

00:40:41.060 So please go to Amazon and order it.

00:40:42.920 It's the Pfizer Papers.

00:40:43.920 It's now an historical document.

00:40:46.520 It's going to be, you know, the map of the crime scene that many, many people are going to use and reference.

00:40:52.260 But also, I don't know.

00:40:54.000 I mean, we fought so hard.

00:40:55.320 I think everyone needs to really take a moment and celebrate where we're at.

00:41:00.480 It doesn't mean, you know, we're out of the woods.

00:41:02.480 But just look at what human beings did, you know, with their own agency.

00:41:07.400 I think we've really got to feel that power we have that we spent the last two, two and a half years.

00:41:12.600 All of us, everyone watching, you know, everyone who sent in $5, everyone who made a phone call, we all didn't give up.

00:41:19.340 And now, you know, there's this beautiful set of victories that allows us the possibility to redeem our nation and our well-being and our health, our kids.

00:41:31.440 Naomi, thank you so much.

00:41:32.880 Do you have personal social media?

00:41:35.240 Yes, I am at Naomi R. Wolfe on X, and you can find me on Outspoken, on Substack, and always on Daily Clout.

00:41:44.560 And please do continue to, you know, join us, support us, and the work goes on.

00:41:50.300 Thank you.

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00:41:58.300 Thank you so much, ma'am.

00:41:59.960 Thank you.

00:42:00.540 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. over at HHS.

00:42:05.420 Wow.

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00:44:37.800 I think that the idea of authoritarian, the authoritarian promise is that everything shrivels in government other than the will of the leader.

00:44:50.680 So you don't necessarily put a Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in charge of HHS because you're hoping for great things from HHS.

00:45:02.000 I mean, Matt Gaetz, among all the other things we can say about Matt Gaetz, he has explicitly proposed abolishing the Justice Department.

00:45:09.060 Not specifically just abolishing the FBI and the ATF, but talking about abolishing the Justice Department.

00:45:16.740 I mean, Tulsi Gabbard, as the director of national intelligence, is, I mean, the idea that Tulsi Gabbard, in a normal circumstance, could get a security clearance to be like a Walmart-style greeter at any U.S. intelligence agency, let alone get past the security barriers, is insane.

00:45:38.420 So you do that because you want the worst for these agencies, because you want the worst for the U.S. government, because you think that the U.S. government is worthless.

00:45:47.100 That's part of consolidating power, to make the U.S. government nothing other than the leader and people who will do what he says.

00:45:54.280 And there not being any repository of expertise, let alone, you know, just general day-to-day know-how anywhere.

00:46:02.760 So it's a sort of, I mean, as Steve Bannon used to say, it's a sort of Leninist project, right?

00:46:08.840 Destroy the state.

00:46:10.080 This is the cabinet that you nominate to, not to run the U.S. government to do anything, but to destroy the U.S. government so that the U.S. government can be fundamentally reimagined as something much more like a unitary, authoritarian, or autocratic, for lack of a better term, system.

00:46:29.340 So, deconstruct the administrative state, ma'am. 0.94

00:46:34.720 Let's get your lingo right.

00:46:37.360 Rachel Maddow.

00:46:39.520 Tulsi Gabbard is a lieutenant colonel in the United States Army.

00:46:45.080 Okay?

00:46:45.420 She served over in, I don't know, outside of Syria or wherever we send the army today.

00:46:50.520 So she has a security clearance, ma'am, and it has nothing to do with Walmart.

00:46:55.860 And if I was you, ma'am, I would watch what you say about people. 0.98

00:47:00.660 When you go after and smear someone who's put their life on the line, when you've done nothing, you sat on your ass up there at your big house in Connecticut, you know, with your friends and your elitist. 0.98

00:47:14.620 You've done nothing for this country. 0.99

00:47:17.020 Came out of Stanford.

00:47:18.300 All you've done is try to destroy this country and the people in this country.

00:47:24.080 And you're not going to sit there and say a hero like Tulsi Gabbard.

00:47:31.040 Are you going after her because she's a woman of color? 0.55

00:47:33.360 Is that what it is?

00:47:34.240 Think you can talk like that because she's a woman of color? 1.00

00:47:39.260 Or she's not a lesbian? 1.00

00:47:41.040 Is that the case?

00:47:41.820 What did you say?

00:47:44.660 You said she couldn't get a security clearance?

00:47:46.680 She got a security clearance, lady.

00:47:50.140 She got a security clearance and she earned that security clearance by serving her country, something you have not done.

00:47:57.360 And your ilk have not done.

00:47:58.840 Look, let me just cut to the chase. 1.00

00:48:01.240 The American people heard your crap for eight years. 1.00

00:48:04.840 And all those people on that network heard it for eight years. 1.00

00:48:07.400 Weissman, every night and every day, shifty shift, all of it.

00:48:11.820 Heard it.

00:48:13.360 And the American people rendered a verdict.

00:48:16.000 And in their judgment and their wisdom and all your thing of anti-democratic and fashion and everything like that, the American people voted for this.

00:48:27.580 They voted for this.

00:48:28.900 They threw you guys out.

00:48:31.360 Both houses of Congress.

00:48:33.700 The executive branch.

00:48:34.700 And they knew by doing that, we would also take over the courts.

00:48:41.040 So we're sorry if we're going to run this for 50 years.

00:48:43.620 But I tell you what.

00:48:46.160 We commit to the American people going to run it a lot better than what you ran.

00:48:49.160 And out of control, a fire fund that was set up to take away the liberties and freedom of a free people.

00:48:58.620 So no, ma'am.

00:49:01.200 She earned her security clearance by serving this nation on foreign battlefields.

00:49:07.300 What have you done?

00:49:10.460 What have you served?

00:49:13.320 Your whole crowd over there would say, what did you serve?

00:49:15.580 What did you do?

00:49:16.060 It's going to be so fabulous when we start taking this thing apart brick by brick and hearing them squeal.

00:49:25.640 But what I would do, ma'am, is lawyer up.

00:49:28.700 Lawyer up.

00:49:31.360 Lawyer up.

00:49:32.740 Mike Lindell, before you sell me a pillow, let's give a shout out to all the folks that stood up here for election integrity and make sure they didn't steal this election from Donald John Trump, sir.

00:49:42.740 Yeah, I'll tell you, I want to, I want to, my cause of America, all the volunteers, over 300,000 volunteers across the country that worked tirelessly for three and a half years.

00:49:55.980 And, you know, our election bureau, all of, I could name so many names out there, but it was Patrick Kolbeck, Kurt Olson, Linda Rand.

00:50:09.400 I mean, this goes on and on and on.

00:50:11.580 And, Steve, they just fought and fought.

00:50:14.520 And what I told him the other night, too, when we had thousands on the line, I said, you guys, we broke through the cover-up.

00:50:22.840 Remember, this was the biggest cover-up of the biggest crime in history.

00:50:26.800 But we broke through now the cover-up.

00:50:28.920 So all these things you're seeing unfold, it's going to open the doors so we can get to our secure election platforms we want to get to.

00:50:35.720 And paper ballots hand-counted like over 130 other countries have gone to and got away from electronic voting.

00:50:43.160 And it's just great to watch it unfold.

00:50:47.140 And, Steve, it's kind of interesting.

00:50:49.040 I haven't been attacked for about a week now.

00:50:52.260 I'm really wondering what the media, I did thank all the media for attacking me for three and a half years as we were able to get the word out.

00:50:58.580 Hey, no offense, Mike.

00:51:01.340 I think they have a target-rich environment.

00:51:03.760 I think they're occupied with, I don't know, a guy named Matt Gaetz and Bobby Kennedy and Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard.

00:51:10.840 You're just, hey, we're just grundoons now, right?

00:51:14.480 That's fine.

00:51:15.180 Hey, so they're taking, by the way, this is why you've got to get a comms plan.

00:51:19.740 Gaetz is taking incoming like I've never seen before.

00:51:22.040 His best friend is RFK.

00:51:23.540 He's glad he got announced today.

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00:51:26.380 Sell me a pillow.

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Bannon's War Room - November 15, 2024

Episode 4057： RFK Is Appointed Head Of HHS

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