Episode 4063： Morning Joe Heads To MAL To Kiss The Ring; Facts About Covid Continues To Come Out
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Summary
Stephen K. Bannon and Joe Biden met with President-elect Donald Trump at Mar-A-Lago on Friday. They discussed a variety of issues, including abortion, mass deportation, threats of political retribution against political opponents, and media outlets.
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Last week, Joe and I have heard from so many people, from political leaders to regular citizens
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deeply dismayed by several of President-elect Trump's cabinet selections, and they are scared.
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Last Thursday, we expressed our own concerns on this broadcast and even said we would appreciate
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the opportunity to speak with the President-elect himself. On Friday, we were given the opportunity
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to do just that. Joe and I went to Mar-a-Lago to meet personally with President-elect Trump.
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It was the first time we have seen him in seven years.
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Now, we talked about a lot of issues, including abortion, mass deportation, threats of political
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retribution against political opponents, and media outlets. We talked about that a good bit.
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And it's going to come as no surprise to anybody who watches this show, has watched it over the past
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year or over the past decade, that we didn't see eye to eye on a lot of issues, and we told him so.
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What we did agree on was to restart communications. My father often spoke with world leaders with whom
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he and the United States profoundly disagreed. That's a task shared by reporters and commentators
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alike. We had not spoken to President Trump since March of 2020, other than a personal call Joe made
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to Trump on the morning after the attempt on his life in Butler, Pennsylvania. In this meeting,
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President Trump was tearful. He was upbeat. He seemed interested in finding common ground with
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Democrats on some of the most divisive issues. And for those asking why we would go speak to the
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president-elect during such fraught times, especially between us, I guess I would ask back, why wouldn't
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we? Five years of political warfare has deeply divided Washington and the country. We have been
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as clear as we know how in expressing our deep concerns about President Trump's actions and words
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in the coarsening of public debate. But for nearly 80 million Americans, election denialism, public
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trials on January 6th were not as important as the issues that moved them to send Donald Trump back to
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the White House with their vote. Joe and I realize it's time to do something different. And that starts
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with not only talking about Donald Trump, but also talking with him. He's going to address the cost
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of housing and the cost of child care and the cost of food and gas. They didn't vote for this kind of
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retribution, destruction tour that the president seems now engaged in.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on
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these people. He's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have
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had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything
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in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people
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like that go to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people
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had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my
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country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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It's Monday, 18 November in the year of our Lord, 2024. Natalie G. Winters holding down the fort here
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in the War Room. Stephen K. Bannon has a court hearing that he has to go to up in New York. He
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should be joining us by 11. But in the meantime, I think we should have a moment of silence
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for the morning Joe crowd, for whatever dignity they may have left. But I guess that's about all
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the silence we need, because they had none to begin with. Kissing the ring, they should be washing the
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feet of President Trump. Their pilgrimage down to Mar-a-Lago. What you just watched on air,
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was their version, of a public plea deal. I guess their ratings have cratered so much,
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dwindled down to the tens of thousands. Maybe, what, that's faster than we've lost all these,
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I guess, ghost Democratic voters. Yeah, how about this? All your talk of unity, how we need to come
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together? No. You guys lost. We won in an overwhelming, sweeping, mandate-style victory.
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We get to set the terms and conditions of what victory looks like. And save all your unity talk.
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Because we know what unity means. It's a Trojan horse for people like the morning Joe crowd,
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establishment Republicans, to come and do a hostile land grab and subvert and convert the MAGA
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agenda into politics as usual. If you've seen anything from the recent cabinet picks,
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we're not doing politics as usual anymore. And I hope that that sends shockwaves down the spinal
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cord of everyone. Not just, shall we say, the enemy within here, but the enemy abroad. I'm looking at
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you, United Nations, World Economic Forum. But for all the conservative media that's now running around,
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oh, it's so great. Morning Joe went down to Mar-a-Lago. Wow. Yeah. Limited hangout. We'll
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give you the actual signal, not noise, here in the war room. Because it's a stunning admission
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that for, what, the last four, five, nearly a decade of years, these people have lied to you,
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and they know that they've lied to you about President Trump being, what, literally Hitler,
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or figuratively Hitler, choose your qualifier. Right? You're all a bunch of Nazis. Well,
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morning Joe. Well, morning Mika. Then I regret to inform you that you just had,
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you just shared a meal with Hitler. But let's broaden out this critique, right? It's not just
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that they lied to you about, oh, democracy is catering, it's collapsing. They lied to you and
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they knew it. January 6th, the COVID vaccine, the origins of COVID, the mask mandates,
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the Afghanistan withdrawal, everything. And they sat there in that chair every day,
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lied to you, lied to the American people. They have blood on their hands. And now they want to go
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sit at Mar-a-Lago and have the nerve to tell you that now we need unity. No, no, no. What we need is
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accountability. And accountability in the MAGA derivative, the MAGA version of it, not the Trey
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Gowdy, weak establishment Republican dialect of accountability, where it's a couple of strongly
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worded letters and tweets. And these people go on with their lives and they use their security
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clearances that don't get me wrong. They're going to get revoked. They use those security
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clearances to grift and make even more millions of dollars off of you, the American people.
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All I can say is that President Trump is a very kind man to have invited that morning Joe crowd
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into his home Mar-a-Lago that what, in August of 2022, was raided by the FBI, cheered on,
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if not probably planned. They probably have the master plans framed in their house, the schedule,
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the logistics of how they were going to raid Mar-a-Lago back in 2022, that he would invite
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these people who cheered that back, cheered that on back to Mar-a-Lago.
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What a disgrace. I hope they debugged and deloused, did a nice, thorough, industrial-grade
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cleaning of Mar-a-Lago after those despicable people came and shared a meal with President
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Trump. To bring it to what we concluded that cold open with, Adam Schiff, can't give it a rest.
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Thank you for mansplaining President Trump's victory to me. How about this? I know you love
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words that start with R, right? Russia, Russia, Russia. Well, the new sheriff in town, the new
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word that you can get used to is retribution. It's a nice alliteration there. But I hate to inform
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you, I know you guys like to lie to the American people about your agenda because secretly you're
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trying to destroy this country from within, and I guess in your focus groups that maybe doesn't go
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over well. Maybe with the enemy within it does, but with most Americans it doesn't.
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But we're very serious about what our agenda is. What you see is what you get. Promises made,
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promises kept. And retribution is a pillar. And again, it's not retribution. I think, frankly,
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that's a victim-blaming frame because it's you guys who need justice for what you've done to this
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country. It's not weaponization. It's accountability. And to that point, I think retribution is the
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perfect matrix, which we sort of analyze, right, the results of the Biden regime. Is it incompetence
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or is it the intentional destruction of America that the Biden and, of course, their Bolshevik and
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Marxist counterparts have been plotting for, what, decades? Yeah, the long march through the institutions
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culminating with the 2020 elections deal. Well, there's a perfect story that I think encapsulates
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this. The Pentagon, everyone's favorite agency, right, the one that just, what, legalized
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assassinations against the American people. Well, conveniently, they've also failed now their
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seventh audit in a row. But the DOD spin on it, you're going to love this press release. Let's put
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that up. DOD's 2024 audit shows progress toward 2028 goals. Now, at first glance, the sheer,
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I would say, mendacity, the audacity to lie to the American people like that. I've never seen
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more of a euphemistic PR, HR department approved spin. But then you take a step back and maybe that's
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just the point because their 2028 goal is to lie to the American people, steal as much of your taxpayer
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dollars as they can and send it to every single country except the United States.
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Right? And now Pete Hegseth. Oh, they found the lady who apparently just realized that she was
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raped by Pete Hegseth. I guess the whole feminism pitch trying to couch it in terms of abortion rights
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didn't really work out for them with the 2024 election. So now they're doing the same psychological
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warfare against Pete Hegseth. Well, how about this? Deep state and all the forthcoming accusers that I'm
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sure we're going to see. I feel my most feminine, and I'm sure that the Warren Posse would agree with
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me, when we have real, actually strong, competent men running the Pentagon and not want to be beta
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males like Mark Milley in charge of making decisions. And when it's people like Mark Milley, frankly,
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it's not lost on me why people like him would want to appoint a bunch of transgender people to run
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the military because maybe it makes them feel like more of a man. No wonder why they want so many
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women in combat roles because their testosterone is so lacking. I hope Hegseth brings that same spirit
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to auditing the DOJ that they have applied to his so-called whistleblowers for their misuse of
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taxpayer funds. And while we're at it, maybe the journalists who are so concerned with crazy ladies
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from what, decades ago, accusing now, all of a sudden, Pete Hegseth of improper conduct,
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that they maybe audit the Pentagon with that same level of intensity. I doubt they will.
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It's quite wild, right? We need experts in the Pentagon. We've been doing so well on foreign
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policy. That's why we can't have Pete Hegseth. Yeah. Why don't you ask the 13 gold star families
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in Afghanistan? What they think about expert rule has gotten us. It's breaking today in NBC that
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they're already compiling a list of people to court-martial under the forthcoming Trump
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administration. And I would say, I can't wait. That can't come soon enough. Now, here's what's
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so interesting too, because just today, I guess late last night, the Biden regime approved the use of
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long-range missiles in Ukraine. In addition to more boots on the ground, they're calling them
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defense contractors. But here in the war room, we pedal and signal, not noise. We don't fall for
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the mainstream media's spin. Now, I know maybe at the Harvard Kennedy School and all the highfalutin
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rhetoric about geopolitics, they would, you know, explain to you why democracy is so critical,
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so important. It's quintessential to the survival of the United States of America, some backwater
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country that shares more in common with Russia than probably any other country in the region.
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Here in the war room, and for most American people, let's put the elite credentialism aside.
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We have a word for that. It's called treason, because that's what they're doing. They're currently
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trying to put Ukraine to be in the best possible negotiating place come January 20th, when President
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Trump sits Zelensky and Putin down. And they want to have Zelensky be in a position where he can
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extract the most concessions possible from Putin and from Donald Trump. And if there is no better
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example of what treason is, aiding and abetting a foreign country, shall I add, a foreign enemy that
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has taken over $100 billion, persecuted Christians, stopped elections, even though these people care about
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democracy so much stripped us of so much cash that Americans in North Carolina can barely get any
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flood service, flood relief. Now the Biden regime, in their last few hours, the wee hours of the night,
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they want to make sure that Zelensky has everything he wants, right? I guess Christmas came early
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for Zelensky. There's a beautiful new piece, too, in NBC. We're going to get into it. It's quite
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glorious if you ask me, obviously the DOJ being the railhead of so much of this. But how a bunch
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of DOJ and FBI officials, the ones who are so nonpartisan and never would weaponize the government,
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right? We've been told that. Well, they're now actively seeking out criminal defense attorneys
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because they're so scared of retribution. They also cried on election night and Merrick Garland was
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shocked that Trump won. Well, save your crocodile tears, aptly named for these swamp creatures,
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for your prison cell. Maybe you can ask Stephen K. Bannon for some tips, right? The golden rule,
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treat others how you want to be treated. Well, deep state DOJ apparatchiks, we saw what you did to us.
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We'll do the same for you, except the evidence, the facts, the receipts are actually there because
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you're a bunch of criminals and traitors and guilty of treason. We'll be right back.
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You're back in the war room where we are trying to connect with the one and only Cain of Citizen Free
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Press. I think the studio is going to let me know when we have him up. We have him. If we have Cain,
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I would love to go to him. Cain, I know you picked up on that glorious NBC News story too
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about the meltdown inside DOJ on election night. I'd love your thoughts on this sort of weird,
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you know, oscillating idea. Is Trump serious on retribution? Is he not? Just that sort of
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narrative thread throughout so much of the mainstream media's reporting right now.
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Yeah, they're running scared, Natalie. That was a great open, by the way. Fantastic. I watched the
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whole thing. Yeah, you saw that NBC story in the stack. I think I've got three red headlines for
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it. You know, there's so much schadenfreude out there. The headlines every morning you wake up and
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you read about people panicked, suffering, crying, in shock at DOJ. And I just can't avoid those
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headlines. It's exciting. It's finally exciting after four years to be able to read headlines where
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they finally are considering, you know, the consequences of their actions, their persecution
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and prosecution of not only President Trump, but many members of sort of the America first orbit,
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including the great Stephen K. Bannon. So it's, I don't, you know, I shouldn't be so juvenile,
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Natalie. I shouldn't get so excited by headlines like that. But when I hear about it and coming
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from left media, coming from NBC News and Politico also had stuff this weekend, when you see headlines,
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when they're actually admitting that they're scared, that they're panicked, that they're hiring defense
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lawyers, that they're preparing for extended litigation, if not criminal charges. It's, it feels
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good. I can't help but be excited by it. So it gets triple red headlines. And everyone in the stack sees
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it. Can you? Yeah, so one of the other good, if you're still with me, Natalie, one of the other big
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things that's happened in the last 24 hours is Brendan Carr at the FCC. People who follow the
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Trump orbit know that Carr was first appointed to the FCC back in, I believe, 2012. He's been a lawyer.
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That was his original appointment as general counsel for the FCC. But Trump appointed him in 2017
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as a special assistant to Ajit Pai, who was running the FCC under Trump. And we got word in the last 24
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hours that he will now take over duties at the FCC. And that's big news because, you know, Brendan
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Carr is pretty active on Twitter. And, and readers may also remember or not, they'll be used to seeing
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him on Laura Ingram's show. He appears there quite often. And he's made statements just in the past 12
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hours. One, that DEI is now dead at the FCC. That used to be, he posted a screenshot showing how that
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was the number two goal of the Biden administration, FCC was to sort of spread DEI throughout the
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airwaves. So that is now dead. And a more recent tweet, which is kind of ominous, which I have at
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the top of the stack, talks about how all broadcast networks, all public networks enjoy a privilege in
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receiving those broadcast rights. And I'll quote him, he says exactly. Broadcast media have the
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privilege of using a scarce and valuable public resource, our airwaves. In turn, they are required
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by law to operate in the public interest. When the transition to Trump is complete, the FCC will begin
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enforcing this public interest obligation. So right there, that's a shot over the bow of NBC, CBS, ABC,
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MSNBC, and CNN, and many other outlets, that lies and slander of the president and this administration
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will no longer be tolerated. So I think that's a very positive move.
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Of course. And Cain, I want to pivot to, if the studio wants to toss it up, one of Axios' big stories
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about the sort of MAGA media landscape post-Trump victory. You got a shout out from our very own
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Stephen K. Bannon, how you have essentially overtaken Drudge. So I think that may be an
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understatement. I know the studio also has pictures of just some absolutely wild web traffic,
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a testament to just the brilliance of CFP. But I'd love to sort of get your broader thoughts on the
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sort of reshaping that we're seeing underway when it comes to media, alternative media, obviously the
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left attributing their loss to the idea that, you know, Kamala Harris didn't do Joe Rogan.
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Not quite. But your thoughts on that landscape and how it's shaping up.
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Yeah, that was quite an article in Axios. That was written by Sarah Fisher, if people want to look
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that up from last, I believe it was last Thursday or Friday. Essentially, you've seen it, Natalie.
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Leftist media is dying. Bootlicker media is dying.
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Washington Post lost 250,000 subscribers, I believe, in the 48 hours after the election.
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They're tuning out and shutting off and not using their phones. So what has sort of grown in their
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place? It's this alternative conservative media ecosystem. And Drudge is one of the easiest places
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to see the death. You know, Drudge, people who follow him know that he used to once a month put
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up this headline, thanks a billion. And he would say Drudge report with 1.2 billion page views this
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month. And this was, you know, 2016 after Trump won and then 2017. And he's been in a steep decline
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since. As most readers know, Drudge went to the dark side. He completely backed Democrats,
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went against Trump. And what has this traffic done? Well, it had fallen from 1.2 billion to
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500 million as of about four months ago. And in the last four months, it's fallen another 50 percent
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from down to about 250 million. I sent you a screenshot and I think, yeah, you've got it up
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there. 200. There's my my my scribbles at the bottom of 255 million. So that's his that's his traffic
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in the last 30 days or 31 days. It's the month of October. So imagine your Drudge. You're used to
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doing one point two billion and now you do point two billion. So and then I'll throw in at the end,
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you know, Citizen Free Press has been a big beneficiary of it. We in the same month of October
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when he did 255, we did about 450 and we're going to do 550 to 560 million this month. We had Election
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Day was 31 million page views. I'm sure that was probably close to what Drudge or double what Drudge
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does. So, you know, let's dance on their grave a little bit. Leftist media is dying and Drudge is
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no longer relevant. No amount of Mar-a-Lago meetings can save you. Maybe Drudge is going to
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be flying down there, whoever runs the site to try to get back into Trump's good graces. Cain,
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obviously the site, it's always updated, loads so fast. It's amazing. We love the stack. If people
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want to read it, check it out, follow you guys on Twitter. Truth, where can they go to do all that?
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That's right. Citizen Free Press across all platforms. And as you said, from 8 a.m. to 2 a.m.,
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I'm updating stories that loads in half a second. Sometimes there are stories secretly posted there
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by Natalie Winters, believe it or not, early in the morning. So if you get there early,
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you're going to get a benefit. Sometimes hosting War Room isn't enough. We have to have full spectrum
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media dominance and Citizen Free Press is a crucial part of that whole operation. Cain,
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thank you so much for joining us. We'll have you back on soon. Thank you.
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Of course. That is what we call a suppository of democracy. When your mainstream media lies
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don't cut through and your Praetorian guard of censorship doesn't work and the American people
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are giving the ability, the transparency to actually make decisions for themselves,
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President Trump wins the popular vote. And I really look forward to the ramifications of that,
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particularly in the context of DOJ and Merrick Garland. You know, we're told by, what, these
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same shows that no one wants to watch, that it's the War Room who's so anti-democracy and so anti-rule of
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law. Again, always the humble check, we're a constitutional republic.
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But we actually love the rule of law here in the War Room. We love the rule of law here in
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the War Room so much that we think people who defy congressional subpoenas, like, I don't know,
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Merrick Garland, well, if Peter Navarro and Stephen K. Bannon had to go to prison for four months,
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then let's have some rule of law and let's send Merrick Garland to jail too, right? That would only be
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fitting and fair. Or do you think you're special, Merrick Garland? You weren't special enough to get a
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seat on the Supreme Court. And I know Stephen K. Bannon played a critical role in that. I look
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forward to your resignation come January 20th. Right? These people, why they're trying to already
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get their lawyers, and there's a brilliant piece in Politico today. Remember Mark Zaid,
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the impeachment lawyer, the one who went on CNN, made waves about advising his clients to have the
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go-bags ready and go take trips overseas, emphasis on countries without extradition treaties? Well,
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now Politico has a huge piece. Think you'll be targeted by the next Trump administration. This
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lawyer has some advice. You know why they're so scared? Because they saw what they could do to
00:26:25.160
patriotic Americans by bringing cases where there was no evidence. I'm not even talking circumstantial
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evidence. There was absolutely nothing. They saw what they were able to fabricate. Take the whole Russia
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hoax as an example. So imagine what you can do with the power of the state, the power of main justice
00:26:45.880
when actual crimes have been committed. And we don't even know the whole breadth and depth of it
00:26:53.740
because these people have what? They're already shredding documents? Well, let's see. In the spirit
00:27:00.400
of democracy, in the spirit of transparency, in the rule of law, maybe y'all should be preserving
00:27:05.680
your documents. You can flee the country and go take your vacations doing God knows what.
00:27:15.680
But you'll need to come back because you're going to have some court dates coming pretty soon.
00:27:21.920
Right? For the people this country was set up for to be what? A laboratory for freedom and civil
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liberty and individual rights. These people have treated this country as a practice zone, as a test run,
00:27:38.040
as a battleground for weaponization and censorship and depriving you of your ability to weigh and measure
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the truth with a replete with a censorship industrial complex, an actual military industrial complex
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and a lying mainstream media. Go to Mar-a-Lago, have all the meetings you want.
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You're not going to change the line. We don't want unity with people who hate this country.
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And we won. So we get to set the conditions in terms of victory. We'll be right back.
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You're back in the war room. Like I said, the Biden regime is doing everything they can to give
00:29:40.040
Zelensky all they can and more. Apparently, what, nearly $200 billion isn't enough. You got Joe Biden
00:29:45.720
meeting with Xi Jinping, his, what, business partner and sugar daddy. All that aside, by the
00:29:52.680
way, you got to make sure you're checking out birchgold.com slash Bannon. Who knows what last
00:29:56.760
minute, last-ditch efforts the Biden regime is going to pull to try to tank this economy and
00:30:00.600
de-dollarize our entire future in their true America last style. But we're joined now by Derek Harvey,
00:30:08.200
who I wanted to bring on to walk us through what I think really can only be described as the escalation
00:30:14.360
of everything that's going on in Ukraine allowing these long-range missiles. Can you sort of walk
00:30:18.520
the audience through what exactly these capabilities are and how you think it's going to shape the
00:30:28.200
Yes. Thanks, Natalie. I'm glad to be here to talk about this. The decision by the Biden administration
00:30:34.840
to give permission for the Ukrainians to use the ATACMS, an army tactical ballistic missile system
00:30:44.440
that has a range of 190 miles and has lethal warheads and very accurate also. They're saying
00:30:53.000
that this will be used in a limited way under some restrictions, but they're authorizing it for deeper
00:30:58.040
strikes. And at the same time, this is going to pave the way for the British and French systems,
00:31:05.880
which have longer range, up to 300-plus miles and 990-pound warheads. And they're highly accurate.
00:31:14.680
And they're saying they're going to be used to strike depots, military targets,
00:31:20.680
communications centers, logistics, ammo stockpiles, and the like.
00:31:26.920
The stated purpose is it's a response to North Korea sending troops and the expected
00:31:35.320
Russian offensive to retake Russian territory around the city of Kursk. And so they're trying
00:31:41.160
to confine it and bound it in some ways. But the Russians are talking about this being a dire
00:31:49.480
situation and it risks significant escalation. And we've been restrained for three years because
00:31:57.400
we did not want to risk escalation and provoking the Russians to strike outside of Ukraine
00:32:03.880
or to use more lethal weapons and capabilities inside of Ukraine.
00:32:09.320
So this is potentially significantly escalatory and could widen the war.
00:32:15.800
And I'm just curious, do you sort of agree with the analysis here that they're trying
00:32:19.800
to prop up Zelensky as much as they can so he has the most ground to sort of negotiate from
00:32:25.800
when Trump brings them to the table? Or what else do you think is going on here to precipitate
00:32:30.360
this reversal, this decision rather, right now?
00:32:32.840
Well, I think the situation on the ground is not going well for Zelensky and the Ukrainian military.
00:32:41.160
And the Russians have been massing tens of thousands of troops and bringing in
00:32:46.440
new capabilities along with the North Korean's initial force structure of about 10,000. But
00:32:53.320
they could be bringing tens of thousands more to support the Russian campaign. But the Ukrainian
00:33:00.920
forces, despite all the Western assistance, are being wore down. And it's not going well. And we're
00:33:08.120
going to be heading into a very cold winter. And Russia has been escalating its attacks on
00:33:14.360
electrical grid, other infrastructure, communication centers and urban areas, particularly in the Kyiv
00:33:22.760
area. So this is a message to stop the escalation and to possibly stall any major offensive to retake
00:33:33.080
Russian territory or to gain more territory in the eastern provinces of Ukraine.
00:33:38.280
The mainstream media is also in meltdown that the Trump transition team is potentially looking to use
00:33:46.040
either private vendors or just not go the traditional route of FBI background checks for a lot of their
00:33:51.960
nominees. I'm just curious your thoughts on that pivot.
00:33:55.080
Well, I think it makes sense. And keep in mind that other administrations have refused to use the FBI
00:34:03.000
in whole or in part for the background investigations.
00:34:06.680
And when you're dealing with a corrupt FBI, which I believe it has been corrupt,
00:34:10.600
and it has used the security clearance process in malign ways in the past,
00:34:15.640
you have to be highly suspicious. And why would you rely on it?
00:34:20.440
I would also say, though, that a cabinet secretary and the president have the authority to completely
00:34:27.240
override the recommendations of any background investigation recommendation from the FBI.
00:34:35.880
So, you know, those are two things to look at. But again, I think this is a smart move.
00:34:41.480
And it's not tied to any particular problem in my view. It's because of the past behavior
00:34:47.640
of the FBI and the precedent has been set by other administrations.
00:34:53.160
Colonel Harvey, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with your analysis
00:35:00.280
Well, first and foremost, go to DerekHarvey.org. And that's my website. And then if you would want
00:35:07.000
to follow me on Twitter, it's Colonel D Harvey. And then on True Social, it's just Derek Harvey.
00:35:16.280
Derek, thank you so much for joining us. We will have you back on soon.
00:35:20.920
Of course. Just a note on all of these appointments requiring Senate confirmation.
00:35:26.920
Last night, it was sort of a weird situation. A reporter from The New Yorker tweeted out that
00:35:32.040
Mitch McConnell said there will not be recess appointments. That's right. The same glitch in
00:35:38.120
Mitch McConnell, who I don't think anyone has ever cared what he thinks. But then they deleted the tweet
00:35:43.880
and there's a bit of weird reporting circumstances. Anyways, shot across the bow being fired,
00:35:48.360
of course, from the McConnell Republican wing, wing of the Republican Party, rather.
00:35:53.720
But I just want to flag for Mitch McConnell, right? Very interesting word choice there. There will not
00:35:59.960
be recess appointments. He doesn't even say there should not be. You're entitled to your opinion,
00:36:05.320
but you don't get to dictate the policy, frankly, for the entirety of this country,
00:36:09.640
but let alone in the Senate anymore. And if Thune or whoever's actually running the show,
00:36:15.320
pulling the strings there, the dead hand that's controlling that historic body, well,
00:36:22.520
then they can face the wrath of this audience and a lot of phone calls. Because weird tweets coming from
00:36:30.040
Mitch McConnell, I'd love to see those go up to bat against the war room posse and the power of your
00:36:36.760
phone calls. Because I'd humbly fact check you, Mitch McConnell, that there will be recess
00:36:42.840
appointments. And particularly, I'd love to watch the, what, 20 Republican senators who voted for
00:36:50.600
Merrick Garland, America Last Weaponization Incarnate, and the 48 that voted for Deputy AG Lisa Monaco. I'd
00:36:58.440
love to watch all of you explain how you voted for them and not Matt Gaetz. Love to watch you try to
00:37:05.000
square that logic train. Oh wait, you can't. And I'm sure if you did, we'd probably look into your
00:37:12.520
FEC filings and all the weird PAC money that's been propping you up and what you guys have been doing
00:37:16.920
in your free time. Because maybe just through those data points that through that metadata,
00:37:21.640
we'd be able to figure out exactly why you don't support Matt Gaetz.
00:37:24.760
I am honored to be joined by the brilliant Dr. Stephen Hatfield, a star of the War Room Pandemic
00:37:34.280
Days, who I want to bring back on. There's some breaking news coming out from CDC Director Robert
00:37:39.400
Redfield. But before we get to that, there was a piece in The Atlantic just last week entitled,
00:37:45.480
There Really Is a Deep State. And I want to read a synopsis or a part of the article.
00:37:50.280
Whether you know it or not, you've likely seen this deep state in action. It was the reason Trump's
00:37:54.120
preferred treatment for COVID during the early phases of the pandemic. Hydroxychloroquine was
00:37:58.820
not flooding pharmacies and it was why COVID vaccines were not rushed out before the 2020
00:38:03.040
presidential election. Both of those efforts were stopped by civil servants despite overt pressure
00:38:08.200
from Trump and officials in his administration. Quite a stunning admission that the deep state
00:38:13.080
exists. Again, not something that we've exactly been unsure of here in the War Room. But I'm just
00:38:18.920
curious your thoughts on sort of this evolving narrative, the stunning admission that the
00:38:25.400
civil servants did sabotage the Trump pandemic agenda and your just sort of take on that.
00:38:30.200
Yeah, the evidence is quite clear they sabotaged it. And these were at the level of the senior
00:38:38.600
federal health agency directors. And that's CEDAR at the FDA. This was an intentional act. And as a result,
00:38:51.880
hundreds of thousands of Americans lost their lives from COVID-19.
00:38:56.680
We fought against this all of 2020, even after they'd withdrawn the EUA. We're still trying to get a
00:39:07.400
reassessment of it. And the FDA and the CDC particularly just simply refused.
00:39:15.800
It was intentional. It was to make way for more high-priced drugs, such as remdesivir,
00:39:22.200
which actually never worked. And a terrible trial in China. It never should have been issued in the EUA.
00:39:32.040
And then the highly experimental messenger RNA-backed things. We're still seeing the fallout from these
00:39:40.040
and the fact of our reduction in lifespan in the United States. We have one of the lowest lifespans
00:39:50.680
in the developing world for our population. So it's an outrage and really people need to be held
00:40:00.280
accountable. And I think with this new administration and seeing people back in control,
00:40:09.240
that this will be able to proceed quite quickly. Looking forward to it.
00:40:13.720
And Dr. Hatfield, I'm just curious. The media seems to say, oh, these people are just obsessed
00:40:19.800
with the pandemic. They keep wanting to go four years back into the past. But I think it's so
00:40:24.280
important because the past is prologue, right? This was sort of a test run for the deep state to amass
00:40:29.000
and consolidate as much power as they can, whether through the leverage that we have at potentially HHS,
00:40:35.320
DOJ or any of these agencies, where would you suggest looking into not just having a myopic view that it's
00:40:42.520
about COVID, but more broadly how public health has been weaponized against the American people?
00:40:47.880
What do you think are sort of the pillars or levers that the forthcoming administration needs to be
00:40:54.280
looking into? Well, we can't fix anything. We don't have a pandemic preparedness at the moment.
00:41:02.200
We had one in 2005 and six, but that plan was destroyed over the years, mainly under the Obama
00:41:11.720
administration. And then the actions of John Bolton didn't help anything. So it's essentially going
00:41:19.880
back to the 2005 plan, which parts of it have been rehearsed. It was a good plan. It would have worked
00:41:27.000
excellent for COVID-19. But we need to identify what happened here. No planning scenario, no war game,
00:41:36.440
no pandemic exercise ever envisioned that senior federal health agencies would fail to follow the
00:41:45.480
science for other goals, which still need to be determined. There needs to be some radical changes
00:41:55.400
of both the CDC, the FDA. There's a good start to bringing the NIH back into line with the recent
00:42:03.960
appointment of the new NIH director. But the FDA remains that it can't be allowed to exist in its present
00:42:13.000
form. And the CDC way exceeded its mandate under HHS. Quite frankly, the CDC needs to be moved out of
00:42:24.760
HHS. All during the pandemic, they were funding about a $10 billion program
00:42:33.640
of propaganda directed by the CDC with inaccurate statements all the way along that the vaccines were
00:42:42.200
safe, effective, prevented infection. They never did any of these things.
00:42:47.480
They were never the clinical trials that were done when they were reanalyzed.
00:42:53.320
And Dr. Hatfield, we have to jump to break, but I want to hold you through. If you can stay with us,
00:42:58.920
we know safe and effective, just like what the 2020 election was the most safe and secure, right? Yeah,
00:43:05.240
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You're back in the war room. We're still joined by Dr. Stephen Hatfield, who I wanted to bring on to
00:44:56.760
address breaking news. Quite, I would say, insane comments coming from former CDC director Robert
00:45:04.280
Redfield speaking about the origins of COVID. Not just giving you the limited hangout version saying
00:45:09.880
that COVID was, what, intentionally developed as a bioweapon by the Wuhan Institute of Virology,
00:45:15.320
but could potentially be traced back to a little name that war room devotees may remember. Ralph
00:45:20.920
Barrick, everything that was going on in North Carolina, right? We always say the only reason why
00:45:25.480
Fauci says he's an expert in COVID is because, well, he helped fund the whole damn project that
00:45:30.200
created it. Dr. Hatfield, your thoughts sort of walking through Redfield's revelations and just
00:45:37.240
the broader assessment that COVID is potentially a byproduct of, shall we call it, foreign collusion
00:45:43.400
between our deep state and the Chinese Communist Party?
00:45:46.440
Well, we know that there was cooperation. Personnel from the, affiliated with the People's Republic
00:45:56.920
of China, the PLA Army, were trained and shown how to make mouse chimeras, that is, mice that have
00:46:11.320
certain human proteins in there, specifically ACE2 receptor, or they call them transhumanized mice,
00:46:19.960
which acts as their receptor for the SARS-CoV-2 virus. And this makes a very inexpensive
00:46:28.360
experimental animal if you're doing gain-of-function studies, putting in fur and cleavage sites and this
00:46:36.040
type of thing. So it's my understanding too of the Wuhan laboratory, coronavirus people had come over
00:46:47.000
and were working in Barrick's lab, learning how to create these transgenetic mice,
00:46:53.000
which is sort of the key for any sort of weaponization program.
00:47:02.360
I'm curious, Dr. Hatfield, your thoughts on the gain-of-function research. Obviously,
00:47:06.920
there's a lot of discussion about banning it or at least federal funds, but could you see this style
00:47:11.960
of research, if it gets banned or continued to be banned on the federal level, being sort of pivoted or
00:47:17.320
then sold out to private entities funding it? Or how do you think we best combat this sort of
00:47:22.920
weird nexus between pandemic prevention and the convenient, no pun intended, spillover where the
00:47:28.440
people who are supposed to be invested in pandemic prevention are also the ones that profit off of
00:47:33.080
pandemics actually materializing? Well, the concept behind gain-of-function originally was to
00:47:40.680
try to identify strains in nature that had the potential to cause human pandemics. If we started
00:47:51.800
seeing an influenza virus accumulating certain mutations, you know, this would be something,
00:47:58.440
a strain that we would want to watch. But in practicality, it's really not an effective defense
00:48:07.800
mechanism. Most of these RNA viruses are very rapidly mutating. And you can identify, like,
00:48:17.320
we think this strain is going to complete final mutations and, you know, you can have your vaccine
00:48:23.080
ready and you can try immunizing your population. But by the time you've immunized everyone, the virus
00:48:31.400
has already changed and is a vaccine escape mutant. So vaccines aren't really the way to go with these
00:48:39.480
things. The way that you control a pandemic is with early outpatient treatments. We have some over 20,000
00:48:49.800
pharmaceutical compounds that never quite made it to market that we need to test these to see if they
00:48:57.320
have any antiviral activity. This needs to be a national program done at our national labs.
00:49:06.120
We've already had some good examples. A very common diuretic called spironolactone has been found to
00:49:14.520
completely inhibit replication of the Epsom bar virus because of mononucleosis and Hodgkin's disease associated.
00:49:24.760
So these drugs are out there. Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, these were all drugs that were
00:49:33.080
for a different purpose, but were found to have significant antiviral activity. We need to start a
00:49:41.720
crash program on this as soon as possible. Looking at the 26 viral families, representatives from each of
00:49:49.720
those families, maybe four or five representatives, and testing them against all of these compounds.
00:49:58.360
Yeah. Dr. Hatfield, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with your analysis on all of this
00:50:04.040
breaking news, where can they go to do that? They can go to drstephenhatfield.com.
00:50:10.760
We have a book coming out in about a week's time called Unmasked, which delves into a deep dive from the
00:50:23.640
front row seats for the COVID-19 pandemic, what happened, who did what, and how we should attempt to fix this.
00:50:32.280
Dr. Hatfield, thank you so much for joining us. We'll have you back on.
00:50:39.400
Of course. And speaking of gain of function, I think Republicans in Congress could use
00:50:44.440
some of that to grow a backbone and a spine. Denver, let's roll the Mike Johnson clip.
00:50:48.920
We do need work visas. We need to encourage legal immigration and these work programs that have
00:50:57.080
been very effective. But we need everybody in this country to follow our laws. I don't think
00:51:01.800
that's asking for much. And I think that's what the people want us to get back to.
00:51:05.240
Full stop. No, we don't. And no is a complete sentence. We don't need more legal immigration,
00:51:12.680
illegal immigration. We sure as hell don't need to continue screwing over American workers by doling
00:51:17.880
out visas like candy to people who hate this country and view it, much like Republicans in
00:51:23.560
Congress, as a special economic zone to boost profit margins and make big donors and corporations happy
00:51:31.960
while turning, what, America into, frankly, a penal colony for the worst of the worst coming from some
00:51:37.560
of the most backwards perverse, and I guess in the case of Haiti, what, voodoo ridden countries?
00:51:43.000
Yeah, the American people never voted in on that, voted for that.
00:51:49.560
Makes the quartering act look like child's play. We know what the colonists did when that happened.
00:51:56.120
Although a little bit of a bright spot, I do believe a lot of the Haitians in Springfield
00:52:00.680
have already started to self-deport. That's at least being reported in the Guardian.
00:52:05.240
I guess they know maybe a little better than what's going on at DOJ or all the DC elite that,
00:52:11.160
what, retributions coming and the mass deportations are, well, not just a figment of our imagination,
00:52:17.800
but they're going to be codified government policy. So get used to it or get Schedule F'd.
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Though I do love the de facto Schedule F with so many of these wonderful appointments like Gates,
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Gabbard, Hegseth, you name it. I think we got Stephen K. Bannon joining us next block.
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Hopefully we will make that happen. We'll be right back.
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