Episode 4082： Wins Against Lawfare And Political Prosecutor Jack Smith
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Jack Smith files a motion to dismiss both the election interference case and the classified documents case against President Donald Trump. The move leaves open the possibility that the cases may come back to life in the future. What does this mean for the future of the Trump administration and what will it mean for Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation?
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of Donald Trump is coming to an end, though not in the way the special counsel had intended.
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With Donald Trump taking office come January, Smith's cases are likely to die anyway, so
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now he's taking the steps he can to wrap things up while he has the authority to do so, filing
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a motion to dismiss both the election interference case and the classified documents case.
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And while the move isn't unexpected, the consequences could still be significant, namely what Donald
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Trump will feel he can now do as president more than ever, not just the way he wields executive
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power, but what and who he chooses to wield it against, including in this case, in particular,
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Jack Smith himself and the team of prosecutors who helped investigate him.
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Look, I think in some ways it's a very interesting question, maybe for a law school exam, Katie.
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In other ways, Mr. Trump can slam the door shut very easily by pardoning himself from
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Now, open question as to whether or not a president can pardon himself.
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But in the end, I think, Katie, the odds of these cases coming back to life one way or the
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If they do come back to life, it's not going to be for, you know, until the end of Mr.
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If I were Jack Smith today, I'd be a little bit nervous.
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If I was anybody on his prosecutorial team, I'd be nervous as well, especially if I was
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one of those career employees who was assigned to the job and was just doing as I was assigned.
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I was investigating as I as I was told, following the law and following the the crumbs that Donald
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Trump left where they may to office of legal counsel opinions within the Department of
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Justice, one during the Nixon years, one during the Bill Clinton years, said that a sitting
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president cannot be charged and at the time that he is president.
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So it was no question that this was going to be dismissed.
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But if you're going to dismiss it, I mean, why on God's green earth would Jack Smith seek to have
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this dismissed with prejudice, which means the case is definitively over?
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And why not just take the as Lisa said, a flyer?
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Why not take the possibility that it would be dismissed with without prejudice and it could
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I do think, though, there is a big that's sort of like not surprising.
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I do think there is an open issue as to whether Jack Smith should have simply waited and not.
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I mean, what he gets out of this is he gets it much more likely that Judge Chuck is going
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to agree that that should be dismissed without prejudice, that it's not gone for for all times
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and all purposes. But at the same token, by Jack Smith doing this and not requiring the new
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incoming president to do it himself, he's sort of doing in some ways the future administration's
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work for it. In other words, to the extent that there's any political hit, I'm not saying there is
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or isn't, but if there's any, why not say, you know what, Donald Trump, if you are going
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to dismiss a righteous prosecution, you're going to have to do it. We're not going to do
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it. So it's a trade off because he's getting a more likely dismissal without prejudice on
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the same, but sort of more into Molly's field, which is sort of political repercussions.
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He is in some ways doing the work for the incoming administration.
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He sees this as a personal betrayal. And when he gets his attorney general, and I think Pam Bondi
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will probably sail through at this point, he will direct her to start going after people that are
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within his reach because these are people, you know, I was a federal employee when Donald Trump
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was president. So, you know, I know that feeling. He will go after people who are within his reach
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as federal employees to charge them, I assume, with some kind of misconduct. And, you know,
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it's just a complete breaking of norms. It's going to destroy a big part of the rule of law in the
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United States. But, you know, here we are. How do you expect that to happen, him to be going after
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who he can? Is it through another special counsel or is it is there another way to go through and
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start weeding out people, Tom? I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. I was I worked for the Defense
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Department in my time. I assume that what he can do is find the superiors of these folks and open
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cases for some kind of misconduct, for some kind of fireable offense, some sort of, you know,
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some sort of charge that he can lay against them that in any other Justice Department,
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no superior, no, you know, would would lay that kind of charge against the subordinate.
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But these are going to be different times. And one question I have, I suppose, I wonder how many
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people he'll have to go through, how many people will resign rather than do that. But, you know,
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the process for punishing federal employees is pretty well laid out and the misconduct has to be
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pretty clear. So it's going to be he's going to have to get people that are willing to kind of,
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you know, to violate the sense of all those rules in order to get at those people. But I don't see
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anything stopping him and anything that could be a guardrail or prevent him from doing it.
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Trump plans to fire Jack Smith's team, use DOJ to probe 2020 election. Trump is also planning to
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assemble investigative teams within the Justice Department to hunt for evidence in battleground
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states that fraud tainted the 2020 election, one of the people said. So to your point, Frank,
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those lawyers, his lawyers are there to validate for him his his deranged thinking about the 2020
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election that the entire system was put up, you know, put upon against him. The fraud was rife that
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he of all the people on the ballot in 2020. He was the only one who who was targeted. That use of
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the department is also something that's going to be very, very problematic because it's going to
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distract from the necessary work it has to do real time otherwise. Yeah, the first thing that comes to
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mind here. Well, two things. One is we talk about weaponizing the government and the DOJ. They're going
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to devote resources to pursuing people who he disagrees with politically, career investigators
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at FBI, prosecutors at DOJ who simply did their job, who have who have spouses and kids and just have
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a norm to want to have a normal life and not get pursued, possibly having to flee the country. I'm
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telling you, I'm talking to former colleagues who are wondering whether they need to move out of the
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country because they're going to be cases against them, fabricated, made up and talking about firing
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staff. If you've got to do that by getting away of a civil service protections, and that means lawsuit
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after lawsuit after lawsuit. And what can the FBI and DOJ really be doing like chasing pedophile rings,
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like taking down violent gangs in your city? But no, we're going to dedicate a workforce to pursuing
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Trump's enemies. It's going to come to an impasse and it's going to be in the courts forever.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly
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full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop
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that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to
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share the big line? MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,
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It's Monday, 25 November, the year of the hour, 2024. Are you kidding me? You care about
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DOJ resources? He spent $50 million. Hey, bro, the FBI guy there at the end whining and crying.
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What's so disgusting about you guys? We took it like men. We fought back. We never backed up an inch.
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Some of us went to prison. We never backed up an inch. And today, today is a crushing victory for
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President Trump and the MAGA movement. Jack Smith drops it all. Damian Williams, the corrupt source,
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a scumbag at Southern District of New York running away. You guys can't run. Run all you want.
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And the guy at the FBI crying, the guy on MSNC, oh, it's so terrible. They're going to have to get
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lawyers. Yeah, you're damn right you're going to have to get lawyers. You're damn right you're going to have to
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get lawyers. You're damn right you're going to have to get lawyers. You guys are going to be
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investigated and you're going to be crushed because you're a bunch of criminals and you use
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state power to try to destroy the populist movement and you failed. You didn't destroy
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Trump and you certainly didn't destroy us. You gave us your best shot. You know what? It wasn't
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good enough. And now we're coming for you. Today, look at them scramble. Look at these rats leaving
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the ship. Run everywhere you want. You better be damn sure the United States does not have an
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extradition treaty because we're going to extradite you guys back here to stand trial
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and then go to prison. And I can tell you coming out of Danbury, prison is not going to be that
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good for you guys. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Not going to be good for you, Jack Smith. Not
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going to be good for you, Damian Williams, FBI. I want to play this. But this is MSNBC at its
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height. The genius Katie Turk. Is the Katie Turk piece cut from that for us? Just play that
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little clip of Katie Turk. I want you to play this and I'm going to go back in history and tell
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you who makes this argument. Let's go and play it. And Tom, if I were Jack Smith today, I'd be a
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little bit nervous. If I was anybody on his prosecutorial team, I'd be nervous as well,
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especially if I was one of those career employees who was assigned to the job and was just doing as I
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was assigned. I was investigating as I was told, following the law and following the crumbs that
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Donald Trump left where they may. You know who made that argument? Field Marshal Hermann
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Goring actually made a very coherent argument of the individuals in the German government and the
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Nazi regime. They said, hey, look, what are you talking about crimes against humanity? This was
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German law and we were just following German law at the time. We didn't do anything wrong. We obeyed
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the law. We were just civil servants just doing our job to initiate the war that killed, I don't know,
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a couple of hundred million people and to eradicate the Jewish population. They try to eradicate,
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I guess, the gay population. They try to eradicate many priests. They said we're just doing it. Katie
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Turk, almost word for word. That's how the SS and the Nazis try to get off the hook at the
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Nuremberg trial. Wasn't good enough then and ain't gonna be good enough now. Sorry, just doing your
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job. We need to see FBI and DOJ come forward before the 20th of January. You need to come out with your
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hands up and tell us. We need you guys to roll. And Brian Kilmeade, if they're not rolling and not
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talking and not chirping, then they're part of the problem. Julie Kelly, you have courageously followed
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this from early 2021. It is a massive victory today for you, ma'am. We could not have done this without
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you. Tell me, tell me what does it feel like today? What are your initial thoughts about this epic day
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where President Trump finally crushes the criminals that came after him and DOJ and the FBI, ma'am?
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You know, Steve, I just published Judge Tanya Chutkin's order officially dismissing the January
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6th case. And like I do with all these motions, I'm saving it on my laptop and I'm actually writing out
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Judge Chutkin's order dismissing J6 case. And it's a surreal moment. I'm not going to lie. I mean,
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this was something that everyone was convinced would go to trial before this election that would
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result in Donald Trump going to jail at some point. They did everything in their power to try
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to rush this case to trial, including Judge Chutkin setting that unprecedented, untenable,
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which it was, seven-month schedule between this historic criminal indictment and trial in
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Washington, D.C. So I have to say, it's pretty surreal thinking of all the times, you know,
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well, when I sat in that courtroom, the three separate hearings and going over all the motions
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and all the machinations here. I'm so happy for the president, for his family. I'm happy for the
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country. And I, but our work is just beginning, Steve, because there are going to be calls, and we
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know this, from weak Republicans in Washington saying, let's just move on, right? We need to move on.
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Screw them. Screw them. Screw them. Screw them. They didn't win this victory. The populist movement,
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the war room posse, we won this victory. President Trump's courage came back. Screw the Republican
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Party. Screw the donor class. Screw the elites up there in Capitol Hill. This is our victory.
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Hey, and our victory is righteous. Our cause is righteous. And we must for the American Republic.
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It's not about retribution. This is about setting things right. We can never allow this to happen
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again. This was like Stalin's Russia. This is what the Bolsheviks do. We're going to do everything,
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and it's going to be totally out transparent. It's going to be out in the open. But we are going
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to bring justice to these criminals. And that's exact. Damon Williams, you're a criminal. The deputy
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at SDNY, you're a criminal. About 50 of the lawyers at SDNY, you're criminals. The Justice Department,
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Jack Smith, Lisa Monaco, Merrick Garland, you are criminals. You are criminals,
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and you're going to be brought to justice. Short commercial break. We got Mike Davis,
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Julie Kelly to kick things off. The great James O'Keefe is on deck. All in the war room.
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silver today. This is not unexpected. What is unexpected is that Jack Smith is looking to dismiss
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these cases without prejudice, which of course leaves the possibility that they could be reopened
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at another point in time. On one hand, Alicia, it could be totally meaningless. One, to dismiss the
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cases without prejudice means that you're taking a flyer on whether or not they can be told or paused
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while Trump is in office. And of course, there's the other possibility that could render them
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meaningless, which is that he could just pardon himself. But Jack Smith essentially saying today,
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I'm willing to take the possibility of a toll. And if you want to pardon yourself, that's on you.
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You have to do that. I'm not going to let you off the hook that easily. I'm not going to
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absolve you of that. Let me have you. Hey, screw. Hey, screw Jack Smith. He's not going to get a
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pardon. Trump doesn't need a pardon because he's innocent. Here's where I'd be looking for pardons
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is Jack Smith. You wait, you wait to Biden. Biden's going to be dropping pardons all over those guys.
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You watch him. You watch him. You watch him. Mike Davis, how big a day was this, sir?
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Well, it's a huge day. And it's, it is, it vindicates what we've been saying on this show,
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Steve, for over two years, that this was blatant lawfare and election interference by President
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Biden and these Democrat prosecutors like Jack Smith, Fannie Willis, Tish James, Alvin Bragg,
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Chris Mays. They run this unprecedented lawfare and election interference. And they said, oh,
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the election doesn't matter. We're doing this because we're pursuing the law. So why are they
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dropping these cases right after the election, if it wasn't about lawfare and election interference?
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And what needs to happen, these Democrat prosecutors and witnesses and operatives,
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and even judges who engaged in this unprecedented lawfare and election interference must face severe
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legal, political, and financial consequences. And that includes a criminal probe under 18
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U.S.C. Section 241 conspiracy against rights. Jack Smith is very familiar with this statute.
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It's one of the charges he brought against President Trump in this bogus, his bogus January 6th case
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in D.C. for the non-crime of objecting to a presidential election, which is allowed by the
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Electoral Count Act of 1887 and the First Amendment. This is, this is very destructive what they did.
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They came after President Trump, his top aides like you, Steve Bannon, and Peter Devaro,
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who went to prison, his supporters on January 6th, who were politically persecuted. His parents
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outraged by gender chaos in schools and the resulting rapes in bathrooms. You know, it's,
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it is unacceptable what Joe Biden, Merrick Garland, Jack Smith, Lisa Monaco, Christian,
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Christian Clark, Tish James, Fannie Willis, Alvin Bragg, Matthew Colangelo, Chris Mays, all of
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these Democrat operatives engaged in a criminal conspiracy against rights, and they must face
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severe consequences for this. So it never happens again. As they say, nobody is above the law.
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If they've done nothing wrong, they shouldn't worry about anything. And of course, a grand jury
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in Fort Pierce, Florida can bring these charges. And if a grand jury brings these charges, they're
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Yeah, I, I, in the, during, according to the grand jury system, right? Or at least they,
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at least they get you into the process. Mike, hang on for a second. Give me, it's 18. Can you give,
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Jack Smith is very familiar with this. It's 18 USC section 241 conspiracy against rights,
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a very serious federal civil rights felony, many years in prison. That's when government officials
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conspire amongst themselves and including private citizens like Andrew Weissman and Norm Eisen and
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others. When they conspire to violate the constitutional rights of Americans, you're
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violating 18 USC section 241. And when you politicize and weaponize intel agencies and law
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enforcement to go after your political enemies for non-crimes, that is the very definition of a
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violation of 18 USC section 241. Again, nobody's above the law. Lawyer up, guys.
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Lawyer up, Andrew Weissman, the young producers at MSNBC, call mommy and daddy tonight and ask them,
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hey, do I need to get the family lawyer involved in this? Yes, you do. Lawyer up, preserve your
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documents. Julie Kelly, Mike Davis went there. Did he actually say judges? You've sat in courtrooms
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for the last three or four years, ma'am. He expands this conspiracy out to the judges. Do you think he's
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on to something there, ma'am? Oh, absolutely. Especially in terms of all the January 6th
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prosecutions, these judges allowing the bogus 1512C to obstruction of an official proceeding
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statute to go forward in more than 300 cases, including Jack Smith's J6 indictment, sending
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people, more than 100 defendants to jail on account that the Supreme Court determined on June 28th that
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the DOJ wrongfully applied in these cases. The judges were all in except for one, your judge,
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Carl Nichols. Also, furthermore, yes, these judges denied every single change of venue motion filed by
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every, by all of these defendants, refusing to move trials out of Washington, D.C., even as the
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January 6th Select Committee was holding their televised performances and, in some instances,
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was naming defendants who were on trial or about to go on trial and undergo jury selection in their
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cases. So, of course, the judges are part of this conspiracy. And as far as Jack Smith's J6
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indictment, Judge Chutkin is as well. She was nothing more than a rubber stamp from the very beginning,
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as I said, fast-tracking this seven months between indictment and trial, denying, imposing a gag order
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on the president that stayed in place during the presidential campaign, allowing Jack Smith to file
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this laughable immunity brief right before the election as early voting was starting so he could
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re-inject January 6th in the headlines. I mean, the malfeasance by Judge Chutkin continues even to this
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day because she granted the motion to dismiss without prejudice. Now, this is something that she
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could have had some judicial leeway in. She herself suggesting in her order just filed a few minutes
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ago that this case could actually be revisited once Donald Trump leaves the White House. That is a lie.
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It cannot be. And furthermore, even if Donald Trump had lost the election, Steve,
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this case would never have survived another immunity test by the Supreme Court. It was a dead
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letter indictment, both because of the immunity ruling and the Fisher ruling 1512C2. It overturned
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how DOJ had applied that statute in this case as well. So there's nothing alive in this indictment. So
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for Jack Smith and Tanya Chutkin to suggest that today, and then you hear, you know, the mouse,
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you know, the legal experts, you know, huffing and puffing, that somehow in their dreams, this case
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might somehow go to trial, you know, or be re-litigated starting in January 2029. It's
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absurdity. And this is another example of Judge Chutkin working hand in glove with the DOJ and Jack
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Smith. They're not going to smirch Donald Trump and keep this, in a way, hanging over his head.
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Yeah, it's not going to hang. Come on. I agree. They're trying to, they're, they're hopeless.
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Mike Davis, some historical perspective, sir, since you've been and probably done more hard
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laboring in the vineyards here to get Supreme Court, particularly Judge Justice Gorsuch, who's so
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brilliant. You clerked for him and then helped with Kavanaugh, Grassley, to get these things confirmed.
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In the history of this country, including Watergate, has there ever been a scandal of our judicial system
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at this scale, where you talk about state court and state court judges, you talk about attorneys
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generals of states, you talk about local prosecutors in Fulton County and in Manhattan, some of the biggest
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metropolitan areas you have. You talk about federal judges in D.C., which is supposed to be the first
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among equals of all the federal courts. On and on, you've got the J6 committee, you have members of
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Congress. I mean, the scale of this, from Capitol Hill to Phoenix, to Atlanta, to the heart of
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Manhattan, right, to the federal bench in Washington, D.C., which is supposed to be the premier federal
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bench. Has this country ever seen a scandal at this scale about our legal and judicial system, sir?
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No, and it started with Crossfire Hurricane. Remember that. Remember what happened there. Hillary
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had her illegal home server as Secretary of State with our nation's most classified secrets. She also had
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evidence of pay-for-play foreign bribery schemes. The Clinton Foundation's taking tens of millions from
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these foreign shady actors. The Secretary of State could be doing official acts in exchange for that.
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She gets caught with the server. She destroys the server with bleach bits. She destroys the phones
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with hammers. But guess what? Our worst enemies, China and Russia, almost certainly hacked it.
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They had a copy. And Hillary was afraid this was going to come out before 2016. So she made up
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the Russian collusion hoax. Perkins Coie, the law firm, made up the Steele dossier. They went to
00:26:24.320
the FISA court. They spied on Trump as a candidate. They spied on Trump as the president. And they were
00:26:30.280
trying to do this because if this damning information came out, they wanted to be able to say this was a
00:26:34.880
campaign dirty trick, Trump colluding with the Russians. You say, that's crazy. How could you believe
00:26:40.060
that? They did the same thing with Hunter Biden's laptop in 2020. CIA worked with 51 former Intel
00:26:46.400
officials, said Hunter Biden's laptop of the Biden corruption had all the hallmarks of a Russian
00:26:51.600
disinformation campaign. De-platformed, censored the New York Post, America's oldest newspaper,
00:26:58.480
through the 2020 election. If the American people knew about this corruption, there's no chance Biden
00:27:03.840
would have been in the White House for four years. And then Trump declassified Crossfire Hurricane.
00:27:09.300
They were going to release it. The FBI, the intel agencies, ran to Mark Meadows, the chief of staff,
00:27:14.360
and said, you can't do this. It will reveal sources and methods. It will violate the Privacy Act.
00:27:19.820
Mark Meadows, the day they left office in 2021, said, do your Privacy Act review,
00:27:25.440
publicly release these declassified Crossfire Hurricane. They didn't do that. Instead,
00:27:30.320
they did the Mar-a-Lago raid with another corrupt judge, Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhardt,
00:27:34.840
who had recused from Trump's civil lawsuit against Hillary for Crossfire Hurricane six weeks prior,
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ordered the unprecedented raid on the office of former president for presidential records he's
00:27:46.700
allowed to have. Jack Smith indicts down in the Southern District of Florida. He gets,
00:27:51.400
from his perspective, a fair judge, Judge Eileen Cannon. They bring another indictment. This is what
00:27:56.180
this lawfare is all about. There must be consequences. Hang on one second. I'm going to
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Boris Epstein is going to join us in a minute. I want to go to St. Julie Kelly. I just want people
00:29:34.720
to put in this perspective. When President Trump left the White House, they all stayed
00:29:38.760
powered. They had the House against him, the Senate against him, Mitch McConnell dumping
00:29:43.140
on him, all the Republican donors dumping on him. You know what we had? When they brought
00:29:47.100
all the state power, just like the Nazis did, just like the Bolsheviks did, with the judges
00:29:52.200
and the courts and the lawyers and the FBI, all of it, the American Gestapo FBI. What did
00:29:58.060
President Trump have? What did the forces of light have? We had a woman that's not a lawyer,
00:30:03.180
that's Julie Kelly, going into courts and seeing this J6 stuff and saying, this is not right.
00:30:08.240
We had Mike Davis, one man who started group, Article 3. We had Boris Epstein, and Boris will
00:30:13.920
tell you, couldn't even get lawyers. The big law firms, because the clients came to lawyers and said,
00:30:17.740
you can't work with Trump and Bannon and that crowd. They're insurrectionists.
00:30:20.680
They're bad guys. The media tells us they're bad guys. You couldn't get any of the big
00:30:24.700
law firms, none. This was one of the greatest political victories in American history, this
00:30:32.640
turnaround. And what President Trump's legal team did is monumental, with lack of resources,
00:30:39.280
lack of personnel, against the entire legal apparatus and these corrupt judges. Well, I'm
00:30:44.520
glad that Mike Davis said, I want these judges to understand you're not going to hide behind
00:30:48.400
your cloaks. We're coming for you too. You are corrupt. What you allowed to happen in that DC
00:30:54.480
courtroom and what you allowed to do to these J6 people and sent these to prison, Benny Thompson,
00:30:59.620
you're corrupt. Liz Cheney, you're corrupt. Preserve your documents, because we're coming after you.
00:31:04.620
You people are criminals. And you put people that didn't have the money to defend themselves,
00:31:09.800
you put them in prison and you destroyed their lives and you tried to break them. You got a 70-year-old
00:31:14.280
gold star mother in a prison in Colorado right now, okay? In a prison in Colorado, totally made
00:31:21.140
up charges. You people are revolting. And Damon Williams and Jack Smith, you can quit and run.
00:31:29.000
Andrew Weissman, you can run wherever you're going to run. The long arm of the law is going to track
00:31:34.960
you down and you're going to be held accountable. Julie Kelly, any closing thoughts? I know you got a lot
00:31:39.540
you're working on, ma'am. Steve, I just want to thank you for covering all my work from the very
00:31:45.160
beginning. I think there were two important things here. Number one, unraveling the January 6th
00:31:49.700
narrative, exposing it on the bed of lies that it depended on. I want to give a shout out to Darren
00:31:56.660
Beatty, who I call my J6 husband, because we were, you know, one of the tiny handful of journalists
00:32:02.880
uncovering lie after lie, cover up after cover up about January 6th. And I think helping to unravel
00:32:09.340
that help the president because that was not as effective of a cudgel by the Democrats in this
00:32:16.700
election campaign as they thought it would be. And then for covering my work in both cases in Florida
00:32:23.720
and in Washington and bringing these corrupt cases and dirty prosecutors, yes, Jack Smith,
00:32:31.520
Jay Brett, David Harbaugh, Tom Windham, Molly Gaspin, what they did in court and behind the scenes
00:32:38.340
and, you know, covering, helping to bring my work, my coverage to the war room posse and letting people
00:32:46.540
know how serious this lawfare was, is, and that it needed to end and that people, officials needed to
00:32:54.180
be held accountable. So again, this is just the beginning of our work. We need to keep, you know,
00:33:01.360
bringing out or, or demanding courage by Republicans in Washington who are not going to want to take up
00:33:08.300
prosecuting the prosecutors and the investigators and even the judges, but it has to happen. This is
00:33:14.240
not America. Steve, I would walk out of those courtrooms in Washington and I would think my
00:33:20.240
grandparents did not liberate the free world in World War II and help build this country so I could
00:33:27.260
have these low-life judges and prosecutors do what they were doing to American citizens in our nation's
00:33:32.640
capital and they'd all feel this loss today and that's, that's pretty gratifying, but again, still a
00:33:40.080
lot of hard work ahead. Julie, social media, Substack, all of it, where do people go to track all your
00:33:47.180
amazing content, ma'am? Thanks, Steve. I'll have a piece up on my Substack shortly, declassified with
00:33:53.560
Julie Kelly. I also have written a lot about both of these cases for real clear investigations
00:33:58.300
and, uh, you know, I post a lot of breaking news. We won't have much, but we will later
00:34:03.480
on, uh, on actually underscore Kelly too. And thank you again, Steve. And thank you again,
00:34:09.260
Mike Davis for your toughness and your courage as well. Uh, because we wouldn't be where we are now
00:34:15.320
without the work of Mike Davis. Julie, hang on for one second, just for you go. I want everybody,
00:34:21.540
if this, Julie's a perfect example, she's not a lawyer. This is just somebody that got,
00:34:27.000
went to the court and every day recorded and saw the injustice and saw how they were breaking
00:34:31.380
families and just recorded. She's not a lawyer. Any of you in this audience by using your agency,
00:34:37.280
she's the best example we have of somebody who used their agency and became a major player in this
00:34:42.160
through something called hard work, grit, and determination. Julie, you're a hero. You're,
00:34:47.280
you're, you're an American patriot and a hero. Thank you so much.
00:34:56.760
Mike Davis. I want to talk about the judges again. This is, and this gets back, does it not to the
00:35:01.800
unitary theory of the executive is that what, what the president is the CEO of the, of the country
00:35:07.320
in the constitution. He's the commander in chief of the armed forces, but the constitution that he was
00:35:12.260
the chief magistrate in the chief law enforcement officer, the founders of the nation wanted it all to
00:35:17.260
come to one office and one person, right? So that you can keep track of it after Watergate for what
00:35:23.500
happened in Watergate, the inside the executive branch, they hoved it off in the justice department
00:35:28.580
became its own entity. And people started talking about the attorney general being the chief law
00:35:32.740
enforcement officer, which is just not what the constitution says. Then you've seen this thing
00:35:37.620
spinning out of control administration after administration. And particularly Republicans have
00:35:42.260
not been blameless, but particularly with like in the Clinton administration, the Obama administration,
00:35:47.940
now the Biden administration, where you have embedded into the justice department, these radical
00:35:53.460
lawyers coming out of these radical law schools that are essentially Marxist, they're Bolsheviks
00:35:58.420
in there. And they've tried to destroy the country, but you cannot, you cannot pass on the judges.
00:36:04.480
The reason the scandal is so massive that this cuts right to the bench. It's just not about lawyers.
00:36:10.940
It's just not about DOJ. It's just not about the U S attorneys. This goes right to the bench and it goes
00:36:16.560
to the bench in the premier federal court in the United States of America. And that is Washington DC, sir.
00:36:23.080
Yeah. These judges who were co-conspirators in this conspiracy against rights under 18 USC section 241
00:36:32.360
for participation in this blatant Democrat lawfare and election interference must also be investigated, right?
00:36:41.400
These judges are not above the law. And when they take off their judicial robes and put on their partisan
00:36:48.660
Democrat pom-poms and engage in this lawfare and election interference, they are culpable.
00:36:54.400
And we saw this with DC judge, former chief judge, Beryl Howell, when she eviscerated 250 years of
00:37:03.760
constitutional executive privilege. She eviscerated attorney client privilege. She was the one who ran
00:37:10.560
the grand jury process on this lawfare. We see this with DC Obama judge, Tanya Shukins and Julie Kelly
00:37:18.060
just laid this out, how she violated so many different norms. She put illegal gag orders on a criminal defendant,
00:37:25.720
which violates that criminal defendant's first amendment rights. You see that she politicized and weaponized
00:37:33.000
her courtroom. She let Jack Smith put on a partisan case, highly unusual, unprecedented, partisan presentation
00:37:40.860
right before the election. It's just unbelievable what they've done. They did this up with Judge Ingeron
00:37:48.000
in New York, right, where he ran a partisan clown show, another unconstitutional gag order, clear violation
00:37:55.640
of President Trump's constitutional rights. It happened with Judge 1 Mershon. His daughter,
00:38:02.960
his adult daughter, Mershon's adult daughter is raising money off of this case.
00:38:09.040
The Biden campaign and Kamala campaign were paying Lauren Mershon, the daughter. It required Mershon's
00:38:15.520
recusal under New York statutes. And how did Judge Mershon respond to the recusal motion? He threatened
00:38:22.440
to put Trump in jail if he mentioned this recusal issue with his daughter. Again, it's happened in all
00:38:29.580
of these different jurisdictions. So it's not just the Democrat prosecutors and witnesses and other
00:38:34.900
operatives. It is also these judges who must be probed under 18 U.S.C. Section 241 conspiracy against
00:38:44.260
rights. It's a very serious federal civil rights felony.
00:38:50.580
Mike, the scale of this, it goes from Colorado to Arizona, up to Michigan, to downtown Manhattan,
00:38:59.340
to Georgia. It centers around Washington, D.C., both Capitol Hill and primetime TV, night after night
00:39:05.660
after night. It goes to the federal bench there, which is the revered federal bench.
00:39:11.340
The scale of it goes to the U.S. that goes to Southern District of New York. It goes to the
00:39:15.980
main justice. It goes to the criminal division. Can this be handled, in your professional opinion,
00:39:21.920
in anything but Attorney General Pam Bondi, once she's in the saddle, to sit there and designate
00:39:28.080
a special counsel? Do we need, and I know you're like me, you're not a big name and naming special
00:39:33.620
counsels all the time, but it's something of this, such a scale, and you have to move with some
00:39:38.840
quickness because you don't want to drag on for years and years and years, although it might,
00:39:43.260
just the scale of it. But do you want to just have one group that hires people and does this
00:39:48.180
full-time, sir? Or do you, do you handle this inside of main justice? I'm, I'm for all of the
00:39:54.380
above. There must be accountability. It needs to be done through the Office of Professional
00:39:59.680
Responsibility at main justice. It has to be done through the Office of Inspector General through
00:40:05.500
main justice. It has to be done through the, uh, the criminal division of the Justice Department,
00:40:11.240
the Public Integrity Section, the U.S. Attorney's Offices in the Southern District of New York and D.C.,
00:40:17.380
the Southern District of Florida, the Northern District of Georgia, the District of Arizona.
00:40:22.440
This is a massive scandal. This is the biggest scandal in American history, where we have
00:40:28.120
the law enforcement, that you have, you have the Obama White House politicizing and weaponizing
00:40:34.360
intel agencies and law enforcement to make up Crossfire Hurricane. It continued through the Biden
00:40:41.220
White House, the Biden Justice Department, where they unleashed these bogus, unprecedented
00:40:46.400
criminal prosecutions, where they're coordinating with the Biden White House through Jonathan
00:40:51.340
Hsu, his deputy White House counsel, through Matthew Colangelo getting deployed to Bragg's office,
00:40:57.060
from Nathan Wade billing his time to meet with the Biden White House, including the White House
00:41:01.680
counsel, 16 hours, $250 an hour for two meetings, $4,000 for Fulton County taxpayers. This is an obvious
00:41:09.460
criminal conspiracy at the highest levels, working with all these Democrat prosecutors and witnesses
00:41:15.380
and operatives, and yes, judges. We left out Bruce Reinhardt down in the Southern District of Florida,
00:41:20.680
who had recused from Trump's civil lawsuit against Hillary on Crossfire Hurricane.
00:41:26.140
Six weeks later, that recusal issue somehow goes away, and he orders the unprecedented raid on the
00:41:31.460
office of former president for presidential records he's allowed to have under the Presidential Records Act.
00:41:36.740
This is a massive scandal. It needs to be fully investigated so this never happens again.
00:41:42.800
And the House and Senate's judiciary committees, appropriations committees,
00:41:47.520
and oversight committees also need to aggressively probe this.
00:41:53.960
The biggest scandal in American judicial or political history right here, and we're going to cover every second of it.
00:42:00.520
Mike Davis, Article 3 Project. Where do people go to sign up? Where do they go to get all the information about you on social media, sir?
00:42:08.000
Article3project.org. Article3project.org. We are going to have your backs for these prosecutors and witnesses and judges
00:42:14.860
who bring accountability to this republic-ending lawfare. Article3project.org. You can donate, follow us on social media, and take action.
00:42:29.920
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
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We're going to try to get, by phone, the architect of President Trump's historic defense.
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An individual who faced the longest of long odds four years ago, Boris Epstein.
00:42:47.180
Remember, Boris was on the tarmac when President Trump left to go back to Mar-a-Lago,
00:42:51.600
and the legal difficulties with him started shortly thereafter.
00:42:55.200
The architect of his historic defense, Boris Epstein, will join us after a short commercial break.
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Bring it on, and now we'll fight to the end. Just watch and see.
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An absolutely historic day in the United States of America.
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You had President Trump's back from the very beginning,
00:44:56.720
and it would have been so easy to surrender, so easy.
00:44:59.680
They're all leaving the country and running away.
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Did any people that fought this leave the country?
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He turned around and said, no, I'm going to fight this,
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and I'm going to come back and win the presidency for the third time.
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The architect of this, and a guy we've been through a few dark days with,
00:45:19.420
Boris, you were the guy on the tarmac when Air Force One took President Trump back to Mar-a-Lago
00:45:29.560
The odds looked long then and looked longer after.
00:45:32.500
The entire prosecutorial, investigative, and judicial apparatus of the United States government
00:45:48.560
And it is such an honor to have been a small part of the team working for President Trump
00:45:53.440
and helping coordinate the genius attorneys who fought at every single stop.
00:46:00.960
They fought at every turn to prevent, during Jack Smith, the weaponized Justice Department,
00:46:07.180
the state cases to prevent them from stopping history.
00:46:09.880
History being President Donald J. Trump being elected and coming back into the White House
00:46:20.540
It's a huge achievement for President Trump, MAGA, and vitally the American people.
00:46:25.660
Look at the tens of millions of dollars, tax-period dollars wasted.
00:46:29.160
Look at all of the heartache caused by the man.
00:46:38.400
And here we are, on the eve of President Trump, walking back into the Oval Office on Jan 20, 2025.
00:46:44.300
Of course, what people don't understand is the, with no resources, outgunned, with no resources, no access.
00:46:54.880
So many big law firms wouldn't take the president on because of the pressure of the progressive left and the media to chase their clients away.
00:47:03.220
And people don't understand, not just the hard work.
00:47:09.260
And all these different cases and all these different venues, from civil to all, you know, they're coming at him from everywhere.
00:47:16.000
From Arizona to Colorado, Michigan, Manhattan, federal courts, civil lawsuits, thousands of decisions.
00:47:23.220
And you and the legal team, giving advice to President Trump and him making the ultimate decision, guess what?
00:47:31.580
That's what's so absolutely stunning about this.
00:47:34.560
Tell us about being in the moment, those decisions, the long nights, the tough calls.
00:47:43.260
When you are working for such a visionary, for somebody who is as strong and determined and forward-looking as President Trump,
00:47:59.640
We knew that in the end, President Trump, the American people, the rule of law would win now.
00:48:04.580
And that's exactly what happened between the huge wins on immunity by John Fowler and Will Scharf, the legal team there.
00:48:11.480
The absolutely full-of-strength battle in New York by Todd Blanchard, Emil Bobe, and others.
00:48:17.540
John Laurel, Greg Singer in D.C., Steve Sadow in Georgia.
00:48:21.320
These are absolute and total killers, absolute and total patriots.
00:48:25.800
And under the leadership of President Trump, they stood strong, they fought, and that's how we got here.
00:48:32.820
You know, Boris, this is not about retribution.
00:48:35.780
Everything that goes forward has to be transparent.
00:48:38.260
But we can never allow, if we have any work to do, it's to make sure this is never allowed to happen again.
00:48:51.400
Our full and total focus has to be now rooting out the rot, making sure weaponization is over.
00:48:59.760
Our country has to go back and function as a nation of laws and where laws are not used and reused and abused to go after political opponents.
00:49:13.160
It's about ending the absolute free-for-all at the southern border.
00:49:17.500
It's about stopping violent crime, making sure our adversaries and allies alike are respecting America.
00:49:23.600
And that's exactly what's going to happen under President Donald J. Trump.
00:49:39.940
And I remember when we filled a lot of hours on the War Room in 2021.
00:49:46.300
Huge credit to you and your strength and you being a champion and a warrior through everything you've been doing.
00:49:51.920
And you're an unbelievable leader in the movement.
00:49:53.980
So it's a pleasure and honor to be here on this big day for America.
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My information, hot on Twitter at BorisDP, hot on Getter at BorisDP, hot on Twitter social at Boris, the hottest on the gram, Boris underscore Epstein.
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By the way, President Trump has moral courage and physical courage, but moral courage to do this.
00:50:16.860
And this audience, this audience backed it up from the very beginning.
00:50:24.380
I want to play, before we go to break for the six, I want to play Katie Turr.
00:50:27.280
Let's play this clip right here of the genius over at MSNBC.
00:50:31.240
And Tom, if I were Jack Smith today, I'd be a little bit nervous.
00:50:34.440
If I was anybody on his prosecutorial team, I'd be nervous as well, especially if I was one of those career employees who was assigned to the job and was just doing as I was assigned.
00:50:49.120
I was investigating, as I was told, following the law and following the crumbs that Donald Trump left where they may.
00:51:02.260
That's the same excuse, ma'am, that Field Marshal Herman Goring used at Nuremberg.
00:51:08.420
That's exactly his line of thought, that, hey, according to German law, this was all okay.
00:51:23.640
So we're going to take a short commercial break.
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I'm going to bring in, at the top of the hour, another hero who they tried to bankrupt, who they tried to put in jail, who they tried to crush, Mike Lindell.
00:51:39.800
Tina Peters is rotting in prison today as we speak.
00:51:43.240
J-6 grandmothers and grandfathers, J-6 prisoners that rotted in that crappy black hole of Calcutta, D.C. jail are in federal prisons today.
00:51:56.360
Folks, we're going to fight this one all the way down to the bitter end.
00:52:01.100
This can never be allowed to happen again in American history.
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And the American people have rendered their verdict.
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The American people say we reject what Merrick Garland stands for.
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