Bannon's War Room - November 27, 2024


Episode 4085: Lectured To By The Liberal Elite; History Lessons From Sharon Stone


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

157.529

Word Count

8,660

Sentence Count

584

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

40


Summary

Stephen K. Bamb and Alec B. Baldwin are joined by the Rhodes Scholar, Sharon Stone and Astrophysicist, Natalie Winters, to discuss the current state of the country and the need for good men in our society.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Now, Italy has seen fascism.
00:00:03.460 Italy has seen these things.
00:00:07.900 You guys, you understand what happens.
00:00:12.760 You have seen this before.
00:00:14.340 My country is in its adolescence.
00:00:18.700 Adolescence is very arrogant.
00:00:21.960 Adolescence thinks it knows everything.
00:00:25.620 Adolescence is naive and ignorant and arrogant.
00:00:29.280 And we are in our ignorant, arrogant adolescence.
00:00:34.800 We haven't seen this before in our country.
00:00:37.920 So Americans who don't travel, who 80% don't have a passport, who are uneducated, are in their extraordinary naivete.
00:00:51.520 What I can say is that the only way that we can help with these issues is to help each other.
00:01:01.360 Now, we can't just say that women should help women because that's the only way we have survived so far.
00:01:10.400 We must say that good men must help good men.
00:01:18.360 And those good men must be very aware that a lot of your friends are not good men.
00:01:26.200 And you can't continue to pretend that your friends are good men when they are not good men.
00:01:36.120 And you must be very clear-minded and understand that your friends who are not good men are dangerous, violent men.
00:01:49.320 And you have to keep them away from your daughters, your wives, and your girlfriends.
00:01:57.000 Because this is a time when we know we can no longer look away when bad men are bad.
00:02:08.840 In my country, without going into significant detail, half the people in the country are happy and half the people in the country are very unhappy.
00:02:20.960 It's a very difficult time in the United States.
00:02:22.960 And I think the only way people can learn what is happening, and film is unique in this way, not only what's happening in the United States, but around the world.
00:02:36.880 What's happening, you might not learn from the news.
00:02:41.940 Television news in the United States is a business.
00:02:44.920 They have to make money.
00:02:45.840 And again, not to go into great detail about that, but there's a hole, there's a vacuum.
00:02:53.060 There is a gap, if you will, in information for Americans.
00:02:59.540 Americans are very uninformed about reality, what's really going on.
00:03:03.720 With climate change, Ukraine, Israel, you name it, all the biggest topics in the world,
00:03:09.860 Americans have an appetite for a little bit of information.
00:03:12.540 That vacuum is filled by the film industry, not just the independent film industry, not just the documentary film industry,
00:03:20.760 which are very important around the world, but by narrative films as well,
00:03:26.140 where the filmmakers and the buyers, the studios and the networks and the streamers are willing to go that way,
00:03:34.480 and they're willing to try to make films that are not only entertaining, but informative as well.
00:03:40.520 So I think right now, it's probably one of the most significant times in our history.
00:03:46.080 And since film began, since the film experience began, it became an art form, it became a business, a huge business.
00:03:54.680 Now is probably one of the most important times in our history for us to make films that will teach people about what reality is around the world.
00:04:04.640 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:04:12.420 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:04:17.560 Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:04:21.820 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:04:23.720 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:04:25.160 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:04:27.860 It's going to happen.
00:04:28.900 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:04:32.440 Mega Media.
00:04:33.860 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:04:39.300 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:04:43.060 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:04:49.380 War Room.
00:04:50.280 Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
00:04:52.600 It's Tuesday, 26 November, in the year of our Lord, 2024.
00:05:03.980 There you saw two real beauties, two pieces of work.
00:05:08.240 That was Sharon Stone, Rhodes Scholar.
00:05:10.260 That was the Rhodes Scholar, Sharon Stone, and the astrophysicist, Alec Baldwin.
00:05:16.220 Talking about how MAGA, that would be you, by the way, are uninformed, ignorant.
00:05:23.720 I think we're going to play this.
00:05:25.080 I'm going to run the sprockets off that one.
00:05:27.100 It's so good.
00:05:28.300 Particularly, Alec Baldwin, you're uninformed about all the most important topics in the world,
00:05:32.320 climate change, Ukraine.
00:05:34.440 I want to bring in my co-host, Natalie Winters from the University of Chicago.
00:05:39.080 Ma'am, New York Magazine refers to you as a sunny blonde that does wild rants.
00:05:47.640 I think it was Salon or Slate said that I'm kind of, you do the rants.
00:05:54.780 Slate, you do the rants.
00:05:56.060 I kind of draft off your rants.
00:05:57.700 So hang on.
00:05:58.940 I don't want to call Sharon Stone a dumb blonde because that would give too much emphasis,
00:06:04.900 not enough emphasis to dumb.
00:06:06.160 Can you, as a rising member of your generation that is quite informed, can you give me some
00:06:13.760 observations on what you just saw of these two folks, ma'am?
00:06:18.640 Of course, and I am obviously honored and humbled that Slate, they called me Gen Z Bannon, which
00:06:24.860 I will certainly take that as the utmost badge of honor.
00:06:28.580 I don't know why these liberal magazines are so intent on describing me.
00:06:32.280 They're trying to portray me as a dumb blonde because it seems that there's, well, no shortages
00:06:36.620 of dumb blondes on their side to pick off of.
00:06:39.100 I mean, we have fully transcended the ivory tower and just entered, I think, the next level
00:06:44.440 gaslighting spin zone.
00:06:46.240 And obviously, it's easy to get caught up in the rage, right?
00:06:48.860 Their whole erudite, you know, pseudo-intellectual tone.
00:06:51.660 But let's be very clear, those people on stage are a microcosm for why this show exists, why
00:06:59.080 MAGA exists, why the populist right is ascendant.
00:07:02.620 Because our ruling class wants to lie to us, choose the manner to which they lie to us, whether
00:07:08.000 it's a press briefing from the White House, a Biden press conference, or a stupid film
00:07:12.380 that Alec Baldwin wants to make in the Hollywood industry more broadly.
00:07:15.340 And then when the American people reject them, they have the nerve to say that it's actually
00:07:19.920 our fault.
00:07:20.780 We're uneducated.
00:07:21.880 We just don't understand.
00:07:23.100 When we voted for Donald Trump, we didn't understand what we were backing, right?
00:07:26.940 That's Alec Baldwin, who's lecturing us as being uneducated.
00:07:30.740 I would humbly put forth his, I don't know, record on firearms.
00:07:34.380 And the Second Amendment is maybe suggesting that he's rather uneducated.
00:07:37.880 But they, I would say, second only to maybe Europeans who enjoy nice pensions and taxpayer
00:07:43.240 subsidized vacations and maybe the Ukrainians, they are the number one beneficiary of this
00:07:48.820 horrific rules-based order that we have seen develop in this country, where your tax dollars
00:07:54.340 as an average American citizen, a consumer of the BS that Hollywood puts out, is forced
00:07:59.020 to pay into a system that subsidizes the lives and lifestyles and globalist ideologies of
00:08:05.180 people like Alec Baldwin, of people like Sharon Stone.
00:08:07.960 And it's your children who have to go and fight, whether it's Ukraine, whether it's in
00:08:13.120 the Middle East, you name it, in the stupid, warmongering causes that people like Alec Baldwin
00:08:17.900 want to sign petitions for and cut nice, punchy commercials for.
00:08:21.740 I don't ever see their kids enlisting.
00:08:23.760 And it's not just because they hate this country.
00:08:25.740 It's because that's the sick part of the trade, right?
00:08:28.580 It's the quiet part of the American bargain, where it's the working class, the people that
00:08:33.080 Alec Baldwin is basically spitting on in that speech, that stupid Q&A session, that have
00:08:39.400 to subsidize and pay for his lifestyle.
00:08:41.080 And you know what, Steve, too?
00:08:42.320 I get a little annoyed with all of this moralizing, right, from Hollywood.
00:08:46.360 When they're, for anyone who's so part of the Hollywood establishment, to lecture us
00:08:51.640 on what constitutes a good man is so beyond the pale, right?
00:08:56.900 This is the same entity, whether it's Sharon Stone, Alec Baldwin, so embedded, whether it
00:09:01.180 was the Epstein list, the Me Too stuff, the Harvey Weinstein stuff, even the ditty parties,
00:09:06.140 right?
00:09:06.280 All of these, I would call them, frankly, if you want to go, you know what, I'll give
00:09:10.420 a slate and I'll give the New Yorker what they want.
00:09:13.140 If you look, all of those, I would call them psychological operations were launched after
00:09:17.780 Donald Trump won as tools to keep the Hollywood elite in check from going off the reservation,
00:09:23.440 much like Donald Trump did when he dared to descend down that escalator.
00:09:26.680 And they've used these things as tools to keep those people in place and to prop up people
00:09:31.080 like Alec Baldwin, Sharon Stone, who you can see on full display, have no independent thought,
00:09:36.040 have no creative thinking ability, are low IQ individuals, but they peddle a line that
00:09:40.400 is disseminated and really given down to them by the Hollywood elite.
00:09:43.760 And you're seeing it on full display right now.
00:09:45.780 And it's why the American people elected Donald Trump.
00:09:48.580 And if you don't believe me, Alec Baldwin, just look at the polling that's come out recently
00:09:52.020 saying that it was Liz Cheney that essentially handed Donald Trump a victory for campaigning
00:09:56.560 so much with Kamala Harris, because the American people don't want to be lectured about what
00:10:00.740 human life, what the sanctity of human life is from Dick Cheney's daughter or what constitutes
00:10:05.660 good men from people who know Harvey Weinstein have been covering up Hollywood's pedophilia
00:10:10.580 and disgusting and depravity for decades.
00:10:16.500 Not too shabby.
00:10:17.760 I want to play again.
00:10:19.040 I want you to deconstruct the history lesson.
00:10:21.200 The history lesson that Rhodes Scholar Sharon Stone gives us about European history.
00:10:25.960 Can we replay this for a second?
00:10:29.200 No, Italy has seen fascism.
00:10:33.160 Italy has seen these things.
00:10:37.680 You guys, you understand what happens.
00:10:42.520 You have seen this before.
00:10:44.640 My country is in its adolescence.
00:10:48.760 Adolescence is very arrogant.
00:10:51.200 Adolescence thinks it knows everything.
00:10:55.280 Adolescence is naive and ignorant and arrogant.
00:10:59.520 And we are in our ignorant, arrogant adolescence.
00:11:04.680 We haven't seen this before in our country.
00:11:07.680 So Americans who don't travel, who 80% don't have a passport, who are uneducated, are in their extraordinary
00:11:20.320 naivete.
00:11:21.280 What I can say is that the only way that we can help with these issues is to help each other.
00:11:31.120 Now, we can't just say that women should help women.
00:11:37.440 Let me have it.
00:11:39.180 I think, as a matter of fact, I think outside the Roman Republic, the 250th anniversary of Lexington and Concord is, which is what, a quarter of a millennium.
00:11:52.060 Lexington and Concord is next April.
00:11:53.780 I believe that technically we may be the oldest or one of the oldest republics in recorded history that actually are a functioning republic.
00:12:03.760 What is she saying there?
00:12:05.560 I've listened to her a couple times.
00:12:07.060 I can't quite deconstruct it.
00:12:09.620 So can you help me out there, Natalie Winters?
00:12:11.840 What is Sharon Stone?
00:12:13.240 Because I know she's not a dumb blonde.
00:12:15.220 By the way, she has the same tonality of Kamala Harris.
00:12:18.420 Is this the new way they speak?
00:12:20.300 Is this the new speech pattern, ma'am?
00:12:21.960 That's quite a Herculean task to try to unpack that.
00:12:26.280 I would say that's on par with Kamala's speech about the stars and the brightness.
00:12:30.460 It's why she lost, but she's going to come back and it's going to be full circle.
00:12:34.300 I have no idea what an ignorant, arrogant adolescence is in reference to this country.
00:12:39.800 I would humbly put forth, ma'am, I know you, according to Slate, don't like to knock people's appearances.
00:12:46.020 I don't even have to go for the appearance on this one.
00:12:48.080 I can just go with what she's saying.
00:12:49.460 Ad hominem would be going below the belt when we don't need to.
00:12:53.340 How about you look at the last four years of the Biden regime?
00:12:55.860 You want to talk about fascism?
00:12:57.520 You want to talk about a corporatist economy?
00:12:59.700 I wouldn't look much further than what the Biden regime has done, whether it's come to censorship,
00:13:04.640 whether it's come to, what, state industry, anything like that.
00:13:07.900 But how about if you want to talk about actual history, if you look at the American Revolution
00:13:11.780 and what the spirit that this country was founded on, what our founding fathers preached,
00:13:16.700 the antithesis of people like Alec Baldwin, people like Sharon Stone, who operate as if
00:13:22.900 they are some sort of landed aristocracy, some sort of landed elite in conjunction with
00:13:27.660 the Black Rocks and the Chinese Communist Party entities of the world buying up farmland,
00:13:31.840 they think they're better than you.
00:13:33.620 And you see it in full display when they try to explain, like the teacher in the room,
00:13:39.280 that MAGA, who wants to vote for Donald Trump, is ignorant and adolescent and arrogant.
00:13:45.120 I mean, that is three distinct and extremely offensive insults to an ascendant political
00:13:50.000 movement that, I'm sorry, just knocked your candidate out of the water.
00:13:54.620 And white voters aside, still did it with Blacks and Hispanics and women, too.
00:13:59.120 So maybe she should open up a history textbook and she won't have to turn many pages back
00:14:03.600 because the past is prologue and what just happened with Donald Trump's victory
00:14:07.520 undercuts every single thing that she just said.
00:14:11.780 We had mansplained by Alec Baldwin and bimbo-splained by Sharon Stone.
00:14:19.580 Wow.
00:14:20.420 Okay.
00:14:21.040 That's mean to bimbos.
00:14:21.780 Nicole Negrady takes us out with modern day.
00:14:24.040 That's too mean to bimbos.
00:14:26.600 Wow.
00:14:27.120 God, Natalie unloaded on a Tuesday here in Thanksgiving week.
00:14:32.360 Okay, short commercial break.
00:14:33.520 Nicole Negrady takes us out with modern day.
00:14:35.640 Holy war.
00:14:37.600 We're going to have, Natalie's got a lot to say about the resistance, a lot to say about
00:14:42.940 the chop blocks coming from President Trump and his program.
00:14:46.080 All next, only here in the War Room.
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00:16:19.840 It's a sort of reframing going on, right?
00:16:22.500 I'm sure you guys have all heard, if you've watched an ounce of MSNBC, our cold opens aside,
00:16:26.580 the idea that President Trump is such a radical because he's only appointing loyalists to his cabinet.
00:16:32.700 That is textbook example of how they're priming, frankly, not just this audience,
00:16:39.600 but the American people to view Trump not just as a death to democracy, but more importantly, as an autocrat.
00:16:47.120 You heard Rachel Maddow, right, in the clips that we called up in a few segments ago.
00:16:50.700 The idea of authoritarianism and autocracy, that's sort of their new pivot.
00:16:54.320 If you really pay attention analytically to what they're saying now, it's less about democracy and it's more about autocracy.
00:17:00.960 In other words, if they can make convincingly the case that President Trump is an autocrat,
00:17:06.620 then they have not just the playbook, but they have the sort of groundwork and pretext to say,
00:17:12.100 well, democratic backsliding, we have to wage, we're morally justified in waging color revolution.
00:17:17.820 And frankly, I think you see it play all the way out to these people essentially justifying assassination attempts.
00:17:23.620 Trying to make sure that he's the only source of authority in the federal government.
00:17:28.480 Honestly, in terms of what to watch for next, I think we need to be watching for something that they call autocratic breakthrough.
00:17:34.960 Autocratic breakthrough is when the party in power uses the power they do have in government
00:17:40.700 to make sure they can never be dislodged from government.
00:17:44.800 I'll give you a concrete example.
00:17:46.980 You've already seen in the House of Representatives, now that Mike Johnson is back in as Republican House Speaker,
00:17:52.360 they changed the rules in the House to make it much harder to remove him as Speaker.
00:17:58.760 So that's them digging in, planning to stay for the long run.
00:18:02.440 Now we're here, you're not going to be able to get us out.
00:18:04.620 You've seen Trump, quote, joking, end quote, about expecting to stay in office for a third term once this second term is up.
00:18:14.120 And that's, of course, against the Constitution.
00:18:15.560 But he keeps repeatedly bringing up, bringing it up that that's his expectation.
00:18:22.020 Trump advisor, his one-time campaign manager, Steve Bannon, saying things in public about how they're going to be ruling for 50 years.
00:18:30.000 There won't be any way to dislodge them from power.
00:18:34.600 Autocratic breakthrough is when they use the powers they've achieved through winning elections to cement themselves in power so they can't be removed by future elections or by other democratic means.
00:18:45.220 So we are watching the efforts to consolidate power.
00:18:49.200 We are watching for signs of autocratic breakthrough, trying to entrench themselves in power so they can't be removed.
00:18:55.740 This is just the way these things go.
00:18:57.260 This is how strong men rule.
00:18:58.300 These are the things that they are trying.
00:19:00.300 The reality is that Viktor Orban's Hungary is very much a cautionary tale for Americans as we face Donald Trump in the White House a second time.
00:19:09.140 For how we can survive and resist our own modern-day autocrat, take it from someone who lived through Viktor Orban's power grab,
00:19:16.720 the aforementioned former Hungarian politician Gabor Schering, who writes,
00:19:21.760 Hungary's key lesson is you don't protect democracy by talking about democracy.
00:19:26.600 You protect democracy by protecting people.
00:19:29.920 Only a democracy that works for the people is sustainable.
00:19:34.480 And Gabor Schering joins me now.
00:19:35.980 Mr. Schering, thank you so much for being here.
00:19:37.720 I want to start by asking you, what was Viktor Orban's sales pitch when he first ran for the leadership in that country in 2010?
00:19:46.760 We need certain guardrails or we're going to head too far in the direction of autocracy.
00:19:53.760 Mongering ads about trans people.
00:19:56.140 But then some are a lot of scapegoating.
00:19:57.820 The majority of his were about the opponent.
00:19:59.220 There's a lot of scapegoating and every autocrat or throughout history has found a scapegoat and that's what he did.
00:20:06.200 You're back in the war room.
00:20:08.100 I think Stephen K. Bannon's grabbing a cup of Warpath coffee.
00:20:12.240 You might need one too after making it through that cold open.
00:20:15.960 But if you paid attention, it's another called shot here in the war room.
00:20:20.500 Though I'd put it in the category of something we don't want to be vindicated on.
00:20:24.780 Much like the COVID vaccines, the COVID origin, the threat that the Chinese Communist Party poses.
00:20:29.800 We told you that over the coming weeks, you would see autocracy, autocracy, Trump as an autocrat become their new talking point.
00:20:38.720 You know why?
00:20:39.400 Because it's what the United States government, and by that I mean the Victoria Nuland's, the Norm Eisen's, the Hillary Clinton's, the deep state embeds, the ones that are fleeing because who knows who's going to join those agencies from the Trump administration.
00:20:56.180 It's those people, it's precisely those people who have such a misconstrued version of democracy that they think democracy means when their side wins.
00:21:09.400 So now that that didn't happen, they have to essentially reject the voice of the American people.
00:21:16.840 Of course, throw the layer of projection like they always have in there, because that's all they wheel and deal in.
00:21:22.220 But they have to say that, yeah, President Trump may have won, but because he's an autocrat, we now have the moral justification to insert ourselves, whether it be the resistance, whether it be via lawfare, whether it be via judges, whether it be via governors, choose your fighter.
00:21:37.720 However, we have the ability to get in there and overturn these election results behind the scenes, right?
00:21:44.680 It's not going to be the mass deployment of troops on the streets like you saw in the Women's March.
00:21:49.480 It's going to be a little bit of a different warfare tactic.
00:21:52.780 And I would point the audience to a very, very important tweet from someone, Michael McFaul, who has been wrong about basically every geopolitical thing ever, maybe worse than Sharon Stone.
00:22:03.800 But if you read that tweet, you can see that he says, well, the MAGA right, they don't like the term color revolution.
00:22:10.340 They've become too, well, conspiratorially, conspiratorially accurate about what color revolutions mean.
00:22:16.080 So we're going to call it Democratic Breakthrough.
00:22:20.340 What did you just hear Rachel Maddow say?
00:22:24.000 Authoritarian Breakthrough.
00:22:25.080 In other words, it's their PR, HR department approved spin on their angle of attack against President Donald J.
00:22:33.260 Trump and the MAGA movement.
00:22:34.360 It's no longer that we're a threat or denying democracy.
00:22:37.500 We're straight up autocrats, right?
00:22:40.580 The democracy angle of attack, think about it.
00:22:43.040 That was sort of the 501c3 element of the color revolution where it wasn't explicitly political.
00:22:48.520 It was just about laying the cultural groundwork.
00:22:51.040 But the autocrat angle is the 501c4, where it's actual political lobbying and efforts to lay the groundwork for a color revolution.
00:22:59.980 And I'm not just saying that broadly or conspiratorially.
00:23:03.240 They admit it.
00:23:04.940 Just today, Norm Eisen is busy tweeting out his democracy playbook that was first authored in 2019.
00:23:13.500 Again, this is the same Norm Eisen who has been behind every single without fail lawfare attempt to get President Trump, whether it was the impeachments, whether it was all the cases post-2020, tweeting out his democracy playbook that was later revised post-2020 election to say that these are the strategies that we need to use to go after Trump democratically because we lost at the ballot box.
00:23:39.200 Now, if you want to talk about the most messed up perversion of what it means to be a democracy, I would present you evidence A, what you just saw, but it's so much more in depth, right?
00:23:52.680 Because in the same news cycle, just what was it a few days ago, you have breaking that the States United Democracy Center was busy advising behind the scenes the Arizona AG who in her life had never tried a case, Chris Mays, on how to pursue and proceed with the Trump fake alternate electors, all the lovely patriots out there, Rudy Giuliani, Kelly Ward, you name it.
00:24:16.800 They were essentially drafting the legal playbook for her to go after some of Donald Trump's staunchest allies.
00:24:24.180 And you know who founded that organization?
00:24:26.820 None other than Norm Eisen.
00:24:29.480 And the several people who sit on the board of that group, in turn, also participated in, you guessed it, the Transition Integrity Project in 2020.
00:24:40.060 That's right.
00:25:10.060 They're now wheeling around a former Ukrainian member of parliament, a representative, who, by the way, just a fun fact, while he sits there and lectures you about how important democracy is, do you know what his new job post-working in Hungary is?
00:25:24.840 Being a professor at Georgetown University, Qatar.
00:25:27.620 So, spare me the lecturing about what it means to be a democracy when you take money from one of the most backwards and repressive regimes on this earth.
00:25:36.360 But ad hominem attacks aside, they're now wheeling out this guy to say that Donald Trump is tantamount to Viktor Orban.
00:25:42.700 In other words, the sort of pressure campaigns that we have to push back and assert dominance against the MAGA movement is going to be the same color revolutions that we helped stage to broad.
00:25:51.940 Right?
00:25:52.420 And it all sort of converges with what you get being the idea that civil society and these lawfare groups are going to be how they resist against President Donald Trump.
00:26:05.100 And when you see these narratives converging, all those clips that we played were just from last night.
00:26:09.740 Keep in mind that it was just last week that all the heavy hitters of the left wing resistance, the George Soros's of the world, the democracy forwards, the democracy 2025's,
00:26:20.200 they just had their big meeting to coordinate and consolidate their strategy as to how to come after President Donald J. Trump.
00:26:26.240 You think there's any coincidence that now all of a sudden they're kicking it into overdrive, smearing this movement as an autocratic movement?
00:26:35.100 No, the color revolution has begun.
00:26:38.700 It has begun.
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00:27:24.240 The question I have for young Ms. Winters.
00:27:29.020 I thought we just won a sweeping victory using the democratic process, which they made number one on the ballot.
00:27:40.020 And now we're autocrats.
00:27:42.300 Like, what are these people about?
00:27:44.840 They're kind of insane.
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00:29:24.640 Imagine Nazis or stormtroopers or something that just seems so incredible and far away from American reality.
00:29:32.280 And that's true, but that's also because they don't have the imagination or maybe the knowledge to know how it is that democracies break down nowadays.
00:29:40.980 Nowadays, most democracies fail not because of violence or coup d'etat, but because a legitimate elected leader comes to power and then begins to dismantle institutions.
00:29:52.720 He puts loyalists in the jobs instead of experts.
00:29:56.400 He politicizes institutions that are supposed to belong to the whole nation, like the military or the Department of Justice, and makes them serve him and his political program.
00:30:06.640 And, you know, we've seen this happen.
00:30:08.140 I mean, it's what happened in Hungary.
00:30:09.440 It's what happened in Turkey.
00:30:10.980 I saw it happen in Poland.
00:30:13.540 It's where I live part of the time, as you know.
00:30:18.680 Okay.
00:30:20.360 Natalie, help me out here.
00:30:21.760 I'm a simple guy.
00:30:25.180 Please explain to the audience what she's saying, because didn't we just win?
00:30:29.660 Didn't they put democracy on the ballot for four years?
00:30:32.660 This is all MSC, Joy Ann Reed and Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes every day hammering us, hammering us, hammering us.
00:30:40.580 And their guests are Samantha Powers and Victoria Nuland and Ann Appelbaum.
00:30:45.880 I don't want to say they're sorority sisters, but, man, they're always the same.
00:30:49.820 You know, we're anti-democratic.
00:30:51.360 And didn't we just win and blow them out with working class votes, particularly folks, a lot of folks who would naturally vote for them?
00:31:00.440 And in President Trump's, you know, cabinet, he's got Tulsi Gabbard.
00:31:05.000 He's got RFK Jr.
00:31:06.300 And he's got people like David Sachs and Bill Ackman and Elon Musk and Vivek Wamaswamy and all these guys who used to be Democrats and some progressive Democrats.
00:31:17.160 Hasn't he shown the big tent in working, you know, that people are in back of the America First policies and they like the direction of this populist movement?
00:31:25.160 They like economic nationalism.
00:31:27.720 Why are we, all of a sudden, why are we autocrats?
00:31:30.580 I thought we used democratic processes to win elections, ma'am.
00:31:36.760 Be careful.
00:31:37.900 Slate may say you're more caustic than I am.
00:31:41.080 I know I got that badge of honor.
00:31:43.380 But, no, you know, that's the kind of bipartisanship that the American people want, right?
00:31:47.480 Not bipartisan, comprehensive immigration reform or the type of unity that the establishment pushes in the wake of Donald Trump almost being assassinated as a way to claw back gains that the MAGA movement has made.
00:31:59.320 But what you're seeing, I think, is just a continuation of the Biden's Biden regime's legacy of just perverting, frankly, everything.
00:32:07.360 But the institutions that actually are near and dear to this country and these sort of founding fathers envisionment of what the United States is supposed to be, particularly when it comes to democracy, right?
00:32:18.660 They have to reframe democracy into this idea now that, essentially, if you don't like the outcome or who democracy results in winning the election, i.e. President Donald Trump, well, you're justified in opposing it because, I don't know, try to square that logic chain.
00:32:35.460 But that's why they have to basically make that work because, otherwise, their whole resistance operation fails.
00:32:41.120 But I also think it's something more bigger or larger going on here.
00:32:44.440 You want to get signal, not noise.
00:32:46.380 I mean, this messaging is essentially giving a, let's use the word the left does, a permission structure for continued assassination attempts against President Donald J. Trump, right?
00:32:58.460 If he's such an autocrat, if he's such a threat, not just to this country, but to the global world order, then people like Ryan Ruth, people like Thomas Matthew Crooks are only going to find more justification and incitement.
00:33:10.280 Because this is a regime that has perverted not just the idea of what it means to be a democracy.
00:33:15.500 They don't like the outcome.
00:33:16.900 They've perverted elections, right?
00:33:18.660 They're sham.
00:33:19.520 I mean, they stole the 2020 election and they say it was the freest, fairest, most confident election that they've ever had.
00:33:24.740 They've turned national sovereignty into something that they've handed over to, you know, the idea of global government.
00:33:30.660 Ukraine has only become a pathway to continue and accelerate trends of de-dollarization and destroying this country.
00:33:37.620 The border patrol has become the welcome patrol.
00:33:41.020 I mean, the nuclear family has turned into what?
00:33:43.800 The most degenerate, weird, transgenderism ideology of just destroying the fabric that holds this country together, right?
00:33:50.380 All of this together, what they have said about democracy, that's the big lie.
00:33:55.560 That's their big lie.
00:33:56.500 It's not that the 2020 election was stolen, right?
00:33:59.260 It's that they lied about what democracy is and how important it is.
00:34:03.760 And now that they lost, we use their own words against them.
00:34:07.420 They're doing this last-minute scramble because otherwise the resistance movement, in their own classification per the FBI, would be regarded as some form of domestic extremism in the form of January 6th.
00:34:23.460 Unreal.
00:34:24.420 Hang right there.
00:34:25.680 We're going to come back on this topic.
00:34:27.320 But something happened this afternoon, Natalie, you and I talked about, that I'm still confused about it.
00:34:32.440 We have a cold open from the regime head, Joe Biden.
00:34:36.260 Let's play that.
00:34:37.020 And Frank Gaffney is going to come in and interpret.
00:34:39.760 Lasting security for the people of Israel and Lebanon cannot be achieved only on the battlefield.
00:34:46.580 And that's why I directed my team to work with the governments of Israel and Lebanon to forge a ceasefire,
00:34:53.580 to bring a conflict between Israel and Hezbollah to a close.
00:34:56.940 Under the deal reached today, effective at 4 a.m. tomorrow local time,
00:35:04.540 the fighting to cross the Lebanese-Israeli border will end, will end.
00:35:09.800 This is designed to be a permanent cessation of hostilities.
00:35:14.740 What is left of Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations will not be allowed,
00:35:19.460 well, I emphasize, will not be allowed to threaten the security of Israel again.
00:35:22.580 Over the next 60 days, the Lebanese army and state security forces will deploy
00:35:28.800 and take control of their own territory once again.
00:35:33.260 Hezbollah terrorist infrastructure in southern Lebanon will not be allowed to be rebuilt.
00:35:38.320 And over the next 60 days, Israel will gradually withdraw its remaining forces.
00:35:43.960 And civilians, civilians on both sides, will soon be able to safely return to their communities
00:35:49.520 and begin to rebuild their homes, their schools, their farms, their businesses, and their very lives.
00:35:57.160 We're determined this conflict will not be just another cycle of violence.
00:36:02.640 And so the United States, with the full support of France and our other allies,
00:36:07.740 has pledged to work with Israel and Lebanon to ensure that this arrangement is fully implemented.
00:36:15.700 Okay, International Criminal Court the other day indicted Bibi and I think his minister of defense
00:36:24.160 as international war criminals, only Hungary, kind of broke the pact today.
00:36:28.440 So, Frank Gaffney, I'm now totally confused.
00:36:31.660 I thought that Bibi's government was going to try to eradicate the military operation of Hamas,
00:36:37.940 what was left in southern Gaza, and Judeo-Samaria,
00:36:41.160 and pivot and take out Hezbollah, which has been lurking in, you know, southern Lebanon
00:36:47.600 and with the Persians' number one priority of crushing Israel.
00:36:52.060 Then all of a sudden the Biden regime kind of gets in the middle of this
00:36:54.780 and we're having a ceasefire.
00:36:56.860 Is a ceasefire to Israel's, isn't this just slowing the inevitable down
00:37:02.400 that they're going to get bled out by the Persians and Hamas
00:37:06.900 and these other Muslim Brotherhood terrorist organizations, sir?
00:37:11.160 Can I provide a segue from what you and Natalie were just talking about, about democracy, Steve?
00:37:17.000 Because it's directly relevant to what's happening here.
00:37:20.280 The Biden administration has professed this undying commitment to democracy
00:37:26.040 and be its great defender and so on.
00:37:27.860 In two respects, they have been absolutely undermining democracy in this particular setting.
00:37:37.300 First, Donald Trump ran pretty clearly on a platform of not being interested in the destruction of the state of Israel.
00:37:47.340 In fact, to the contrary, as he did in his first term,
00:37:50.200 he bequeathed to Joe Biden a very strong Israel, a very peaceful Middle East,
00:37:58.080 as peaceful as it's been in memory.
00:37:59.840 And Joe Biden has destroyed that.
00:38:03.580 And he's destroying it now by directly affronting the sentiment of the American voters
00:38:09.300 who gave Donald Trump a mandate to change course on the Middle East.
00:38:14.500 And what's going on here, Steve, to directly answer your question,
00:38:17.540 is Bibi Netanyahu's plan, I think, is unchanged.
00:38:20.920 What has changed is that Joe Biden, again, in an affront to democracy,
00:38:27.620 has kept basically hidden the kind of extortion that he's engaged in.
00:38:34.520 And when I say, you know, it's not him, it's the apparat around him
00:38:39.160 that is deeply committed to the destruction of the state of Israel.
00:38:42.820 It is deeply committed to saving Hamas, saving Hezbollah, saving Iran.
00:38:48.060 And their strategy has been to essentially euchre Israel into ending its operations
00:38:58.600 by, first of all, threatening to allow the United Nations to have its way with Israel.
00:39:07.180 Something it did not do last week with respect to Gaza, as you'll recall,
00:39:11.620 but this week they're doing it with respect to Hezbollah.
00:39:14.600 They say, we won't veto a resolution compelling you to have a ceasefire with Hezbollah
00:39:22.320 unless you go along with it, go along with the one that we're coming up with here.
00:39:28.580 And here's the kicker.
00:39:30.620 If the American people, who Harvard polls have said repeatedly over the past year or so,
00:39:37.720 overwhelmingly support Israel, they want it to win.
00:39:41.480 They don't want Hamas, they don't want Hezbollah, they don't want Iran to win.
00:39:46.180 But if they're denied information about what's being done here, on the one hand, using the UN as a threat,
00:39:52.000 on the other, simply preventing Israel from having access to weapons they've bought
00:39:57.380 that they need to maintain the offensive operations.
00:40:01.840 The whole thing kind of grinds to a halt.
00:40:04.220 You're a student of history.
00:40:05.260 Remember, Patton's tanks ran out of gas at an inconvenient moment.
00:40:09.940 And that's basically what's happening to Israel's military as well.
00:40:13.920 And I think what Bibi said to his cabinet today that brought a lot of people who know,
00:40:19.140 A, this is not going to work.
00:40:21.640 B, it certainly is not something that the Israeli people support.
00:40:25.540 C, it is not meant to be a permanent arrangement, which is what Joe Biden said in that White House
00:40:33.320 presentation today.
00:40:34.500 It's supposed to be something that will just now endure indefinitely.
00:40:39.660 And then when you listen to the crap that he put out about how everybody's going to go back to
00:40:44.980 their homes and it's going to be all wonderful and peace will break out all over the place.
00:40:48.840 This is rubbish, Steve.
00:40:50.840 What will happen is Hezbollah will return to those areas in South Lebanon and will be once again in a position
00:40:59.600 to fire into Israel and it will remain impossible for the people of Israel to return to their homes
00:41:06.440 in the north of Israel.
00:41:08.220 So our prayer has got to be that, frankly, Donald Trump will step up here and say to Joe Biden,
00:41:15.940 this is not acceptable because what they're trying to do to Donald Trump basically is give him a sort of
00:41:24.620 facts on the ground situation that he cannot easily undo.
00:41:29.120 And that will constitute, I believe, not just no peace, let's be honest.
00:41:34.400 It will simply amount to what in Islamic doctrine is known as a hudna, a temporary, you know,
00:41:41.940 fighting pause that will enable Hezbollah to return, yes, to rearm, yes, to reconstitute its leadership, yes,
00:41:52.500 and to go once again to war with Israel on behalf of its masters and whose foreign legion they serve, frankly, in Iran.
00:42:01.400 Frank, hang on for one second because I want to go through.
00:42:07.780 I thought, and correct me if I'm wrong, I thought in a lame duck, Joe Biden is president and commander-in-chief
00:42:14.160 until noon on the 20th of January.
00:42:16.720 However, custom and tradition is you don't sit there and start cutting a bunch of new deals.
00:42:21.900 Your time's over and the people have essentially elected somebody else.
00:42:24.860 This interregnum is just so someone like President Trump can stand up as government, right,
00:42:30.200 can get his 3,000 guys in right away, get another, the 1,000 start getting confirmed.
00:42:34.860 It's a transition.
00:42:36.360 And you're not supposed to do these types of moves, particularly to change the facts on the ground.
00:42:40.300 Anyway, hang on.
00:42:41.060 I want to hold you for the next break because I want to talk about this.
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00:42:54.280 The other is the southern border, right, that they're trying to exacerbate the invasion.
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00:44:43.840 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
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00:45:56.780 Frank Gaffney, this is supposed to be a period where we're standing up a government to take over.
00:46:01.260 They're not supposed to be out, you know, cutting these wild deals.
00:46:04.120 Did they force BB to do this, the bottom line?
00:46:06.640 Is BB being—is he extorted to agree to sign this thing?
00:46:10.320 A hundred percent, Steve.
00:46:12.560 There's no way he would do this otherwise.
00:46:15.760 And especially when, you know, the cavalry is slightly over the horizon but headed this way, 55 days or so out.
00:46:23.760 He wants desperately to do what I think Donald Trump knows needs to be done, too, which is to finish the war, to act decisively.
00:46:31.860 And the truth of the matter is that not only has the Biden team done what we've just discussed in terms of creating this extortion, but they have at every turn slowed the progress of the war.
00:46:44.180 Why?
00:46:44.600 Because they are determined to save Hamas.
00:46:47.900 They are determined to save Hezbollah.
00:46:49.600 They are determined to save Iran.
00:46:51.540 This is absolutely at odds with, you know, American national interests as well as Israelis, obviously.
00:46:57.040 But, Steve, here's the key.
00:46:57.980 Barack Obama, who a lot of us think is still running things, did exactly the same thing when Trump was coming into office the first time.
00:47:07.160 You may remember he did a U.N. resolution abstention that basically stuck it to Israel, the worst up to that point until now.
00:47:17.500 And I just wanted to say, with your encouragement, we have just launched a brand new effort.
00:47:22.900 We call it the Working Group on Israel.
00:47:26.340 And we've just put our first paper up.
00:47:29.300 You can find it at WGIsrael.org.
00:47:33.380 And it calls on all of us, the American people who did not vote for this craziness, the Trump team, and, yes, what there is in Congress as well, to stand against Joe Biden's hudna.
00:47:47.280 Don't dignify it by calling it a ceasefire.
00:47:49.320 It's not.
00:47:49.920 It's just a fighting pause until the next horrible war instead of allowing Israel to finish the job with Hezbollah, which would be great for Lebanon, which would be great for, obviously, Israel, and great for us.
00:48:02.760 There are enemies, too.
00:48:03.740 They've got blood of Americans all over their hands, Hezbollah, as well as Iran, of course.
00:48:08.580 So I encourage people to go to WGIsrael.org to take a look at this brand new paper.
00:48:14.540 It's the first of many that we'll be engaged in to try to help Israel do what it needs to do to survive and to defend our interests as well as theirs in a very dangerous part of the world.
00:48:26.680 The working group on Israel will have a lot more about that later.
00:48:31.760 Hopefully, it will have a big impact as the committee on the present danger of China, which has been extraordinary.
00:48:38.600 I want to go to, when I call the wars, this thing in Ukraine.
00:48:42.800 I mean, the New York Times, not Breitbart or Gateway Pundit or, you know, Darren Beatty's guy's revolver.
00:48:47.800 The New York Times is reporting there's actually high-level discussions between American officials, NATO officials, European officials, and Ukrainian officials about the potential for deployment of tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine.
00:49:03.840 There's the former head of the armed services there, the guy that was kind of forced out a few months ago, saying, hey, I think this thing may be expanding into the Third World War.
00:49:12.920 What is Biden doing to handcuff Trump, who's a man of peace and thinks he can sit down with Zelensky, with Putin, and work out some sort of peace agreement so that we don't have, in 2025 and 2026, another million Ukrainians die, sir?
00:49:30.160 Yeah.
00:49:30.600 Steve, as you know, with your help in that of the War Room, Karen Sigman of the American Freedom Alliance and a number of us went on the road to swing states across the country to talk about this World War III.
00:49:43.740 I made a point in each of those presentations that what's, I think, really going on here is World War G.
00:49:51.140 And my theory is that what happened was Joe Biden was told by Xi Jinping in their meeting two weeks ago, you know, intensify the war in Ukraine.
00:50:04.920 Why? Because just as Xi, I think, told Putin to go in there in the first place as part of a series of acts of what I call strategic arson around the world, all designed to suck us into various conflicts, to put our resources, to put our energies, to put most especially our military kit, which is in very short supply, into these conflicts.
00:50:31.280 So why? It wouldn't be available to deal with China.
00:50:36.000 And you just had Admiral Sam Paparo of Indo-PAC command freaking out because they've just removed anti-personnel mines needed to defend South Korea, which is looking at a pretty ugly North Korea at the moment as another of these potential conflagrations.
00:50:52.960 They sent it all to Ukraine.
00:50:54.460 And he's saying, wait a minute, we're not going to be able to defend what we have to do vis-a-vis the Chinese.
00:51:00.520 That's the plan. That is Xi's war plan.
00:51:04.040 And I think you look at what he's done in the Middle East as well.
00:51:06.720 This all fits a pattern.
00:51:08.860 We've done a series of really important webinars on these issues.
00:51:12.900 And I commend everyone those products at presentdangerchina.org, the Committee on the Present Danger that you just spoke highly of.
00:51:19.740 And thank you for being part of it.
00:51:23.260 Frank, where do people go to get all the content here?
00:51:26.080 We've got to bounce, but where do folks go?
00:51:27.560 Well, securingamerica.substack.com is where you can find most of my stuff.
00:51:34.320 Presentdangerchina.org is the Committee's.
00:51:36.480 This brand-new effort, the Working Group on Israel, is at wgisrael.org.
00:51:43.300 Thanks, Steve, for letting me come on to tell about World War G, among other things.
00:51:47.840 It's vitally important we get this right.
00:51:49.580 Frank, good launch on the Working Group on Israel.
00:51:53.440 I'll be back to you after the show.
00:51:54.760 So, tell everybody a great job today.
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00:51:59.380 On a pretty important day when they're agreeing to a ceasefire, extorted into a ceasefire.
00:52:06.980 Okay, Robbie Starbuck has been running the tables with Corporate America.
00:52:11.720 Robbie's a long-term friend of the show, and he's going to join us next.
00:52:16.400 Natalie Winter's going to break down.
00:52:17.580 She's dropped another bomb on the United States, the four red lines.
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