Bannon's War Room - Episode 4156： MAGA Refuses To Kneel To Technocrats

00:00:00.000 battle that's underway in Trump world that we laid out for you here last night is only

00:00:03.980 escalating even further today. In his clash with the far right over immigration, Elon Musk is now

00:00:10.000 going after the hardliners, the very heart of the MAGA base, labeling them just a few hours ago as 0.99

00:00:15.780 contemptible fools who must be removed from the Republican Party root and stem. Musk now finds 0.99

00:00:22.560 himself pitted against the likes of Steve Bannon, however, Trump's former White House aide who came

00:00:27.900 out against Musk's push for H-1B visas, which allow highly skilled foreign workers into the U.S.

00:00:33.840 and has long been the lifeblood of Silicon Valley. H-1B visas, that's not what it's about.

00:00:41.140 It's about taking American jobs and bringing over essentially become indentured servants at lower 0.72

00:00:45.960 wages. This thing's a scam by the oligarchs in Silicon Valley to basically take jobs from American 0.63

00:00:53.380 citizens, give them to what become indentured servants from foreign countries, and then pay

00:01:01.840 them less. Simple. To let them into the, through the golden door. Now Bannon's comments align him

00:01:10.680 with people like the far right activist Laura Loomer, who has been bashing Musk for days now on this and

00:01:16.400 is even accusing him of censoring her on his own platform. She is the anti-immigrant Trump ally who 0.91

00:01:22.600 is now claiming that her blue checkmark was removed, her subscriptions were deactivated,

00:01:27.400 her character limits for tweets and posts on X were limited for what she says is quote,

00:01:32.260 raising concerns and speaking the truth about the technocratic takeover of our country in the White

00:01:38.320 House. The workforce now I'm also against, I'm also for big restrictions on legal immigration until, 0.92

00:01:43.420 until Silicon Valley, until these places have, I don't know, 20% African American and 20% Hispanic and,

00:01:50.380 and kids that can go to college and every college you go to, every engineering school you go to,

00:01:55.180 is flooded with foreign students taking American jobs. I don't agree with that. American jobs should 0.94

00:02:00.580 be for American citizens. President Trump and I actually disagree with it. President Trump said,

00:02:04.100 a couple of months ago, he said, hey, you know, on every college, every college graduate, right? And every

00:02:12.800 graduate of a, of a community college should have a, should have a green card staple to their diploma.

00:02:18.760 Remember he said this, this was after he came back from having dinner with David Sachs and these

00:02:23.400 billionaires out in the tech billionaires in San Francisco. He said, every graduate, foreign student

00:02:28.280 graduate, and every graduate, foreign student graduate from community college should have a

00:02:33.620 green card attached to their diploma. I said, President Trump on the show, I said, we have tremendous

00:02:37.560 respect for you. We love you. We're at your base. But I've got another recommendation.

00:02:41.560 I'd like to put an exit visa on every college graduate, foreign student that graduated from 0.99

00:02:47.820 college here in 30 days to leave and go back home and help make their nation great again.

00:02:52.360 And for, and we shouldn't take any foreign students in community colleges. That should be, 0.99

00:02:57.060 that should be, that should be for American citizens, particularly for African Americans and,

00:03:01.160 and, and Hispanics. You're never going to get, they're never going to get up the economic 1.00

00:03:05.040 chain unless we do this. I think it's also important to understand the guy that controls

00:03:10.440 the central social media platform for the MAGA movement. Right. And if, if, if Elon decides,

00:03:17.060 as he's showing with these small ball, these small fries, like, like Loomer and, and Cernovich and,

00:03:22.960 and Owen Schroyer, all those folks taking away their verification, taking away their, their

00:03:27.720 monetization. If he, if he's willing to put his thumb on the scale, he's in, he's all in favor of

00:03:34.440 free speech for himself. And he bought it. If he controls that platform, he can cause Trump a lot more

00:03:42.280 pressure than, than Laura Loomer and these other, these other, you know, ranters can cause. But I do think 0.98

00:03:50.360 it's important to remember that the populist movement that's been telling Republican voters for a

00:03:56.280 generation, probably arguably two generations, that immigration is the cause of almost all the 0.99

00:04:01.400 evils in their life. I think, uh, you know, Molly and Eugene are both right. He's going to be hearing

00:04:06.120 this from those grassroots folks, and it will cause a tension with Elon that I don't think is

00:04:11.480 reconcilable. And I'm, I'm much closer to Elon Musk on the policy issue here than I am, you know,

00:04:18.520 even remotely with Laura Loomer about any of this stuff. But one of the ironies of all this is that

00:04:25.240 all of these people across the spectrum, they rode this populist tide in claiming that

00:04:30.920 establishment Republicans and conservative establishment and the old Reaganite crowd,

00:04:35.960 the old national view crowd, they don't know anything. And all the answers are super easy.

00:04:40.440 And we know exactly what to do. And then it turns out they come in and it turns out this stuff is

00:04:45.240 really complicated. H1B program is complicated for how you reform it. How do you expand it? What do you

00:04:50.680 do you do about chain migration? And the serious people were all pushed aside in favor of all of

00:04:55.560 these populist yahoos from Steve Bannon on down. And now they're the dog that caught the car and

00:05:00.760 they don't know how to do any of this policy because they haven't done any of the legwork on it.

00:05:04.920 Yeah. And look, obviously a lot of people also pointing out, saying basically, dude,

00:05:09.160 you just kind of joined the MAGA universe pretty recently. But look, I think,

00:05:12.680 what is he being entitled? But if I'm Musk, I'm less worried maybe about Laura Loomer than I am about

00:05:19.000 who you showed earlier, Steve Bannon. Because, you know, so much of the culture, so much of the

00:05:25.240 MAGA universe flows downward from what Bannon says on that program every day. And he has,

00:05:31.560 when I say an online army around him, he really does, of many MAGA influencers with many, many

00:05:37.560 millions of followers. And, you know, we've kind of heard this terms, internal MAGA civil war go

00:05:43.080 around a lot the past 24 hours. But that really seems to be what's playing out. And I will just say,

00:05:47.800 you know, conservatives, Republicans have been very excited to have

00:05:51.560 Musk running X for the last two years. This is the first time we're really seeing Musk

00:05:56.920 going after people within his own camp.

00:05:59.240 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies. Because we're going

00:06:09.800 medieval on these people. Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying

00:06:15.560 about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know

00:06:20.200 you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:06:23.720 And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA media.

00:06:28.680 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:06:34.120 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,

00:06:41.000 this country will be saved.

00:06:44.120 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:06:53.400 It's Saturday, 28 December in the year of our Lord, 2024. And I want to thank

00:06:58.040 Robin Parker Sig for making. Normally during the holidays, we want to allow our Denver team

00:07:04.680 of Real America's Voice that helps us do all the production in the show, along with our War Room

00:07:09.800 production team to take a few days off. Normally we would pre-record the Saturday show on this last

00:07:16.840 weekend so people would have a longer day off. I want to thank the Denver team for coming in today

00:07:20.680 because of the press of news and events. I want to read something. And we got a post,

00:07:27.320 I think, by phone. Dave Bratz with us. Raheem's going to join in a minute. Darren Beattie.

00:07:32.440 Let me just state this. The HB1 visas, I've been working on this for 10 years. It's very hard

00:07:37.160 because this is central. It's not just central to the economics of what they do in Silicon Valley.

00:07:44.920 The hate America crowd, and they hate America, the hate America crowd there. And when I say hate

00:07:50.600 America, they hate the United States of America, the nation state of America and American citizens.

00:07:58.440 They believe in some sort of techno-feudal situation like was in Italy back, I don't know,

00:08:07.720 in the 14th and 15th century. These kind of city-states. What they want is a network. They

00:08:13.160 want a network where they're like a city-state, control the network. And there's a bunch of serfs 0.97

00:08:18.200 that work for them. Not American citizens, but serfs, indentured servants. That's what they want. 0.99

00:08:23.800 And that's, they're not going to get that. We're going to win this fight. If you think that this

00:08:30.760 audience in the MAGA movement, the hoplites, the grundoons, the fixed bayonet crowd that fought

00:08:40.920 the steal of 2020 and then had President Trump's back in the darkest days of 21 and were with him the

00:08:47.960 entire time, particularly because he was right on the basic issues that were causing the destruction

00:08:54.760 of our beloved republic, are going to now, after a massive come from behind victory, overwhelming

00:09:01.320 victory, just sit there and roll over why the country's torn apart by oligarchs. It's not going 0.88

00:09:06.680 to happen. And I always give full respect to Elon. Elon was absolutely central. Elon understood that

00:09:14.200 this was about getting out low propensity, low information voters, and that the army of people

00:09:20.600 from the turning points and from War Room and other groups, you guys that were, you know, did the

00:09:26.120 election integrity and then did all the door-to-door canvassing and get the vote, that, you know,

00:09:32.360 you were essential. He did write the check and that gets him to see the table. I said that from the

00:09:36.120 beginning, although I fundamentally disagree with him on major issues like the Chinese Communist Party,

00:09:40.920 like transhumanism and like the situation around immigration, but they're going to make this bold.

00:09:46.280 Let me just restate something. As a fact, the H-1B visa program is a total and complete scam 0.92

00:09:55.160 from its top to the bottom. And Elon's put out this tweet that, you know, all his companies have

00:10:02.520 depended upon that. Now, we'll go dig out the information from public documents and just put,

00:10:07.140 I'd like you to publish, we would like you to publish every engineer that you've brought in

00:10:13.780 on H-1B visa and let us determine, let's just see the information and see if American citizens

00:10:21.380 could not fill those billets. You're going to find, we still haven't seen, you know,

00:10:25.300 if all this going on, have they come forward with any examples? One example from David Sachs to

00:10:30.900 Vivek Ramaswamy to Elon Musk to any of them. Have they come up with examples of these Einsteins 0.74

00:10:38.100 that could not, the job could not be done by American citizen? American citizens come first. 0.76

00:10:46.740 The problem this country in the last 40, 50 years is not just America hasn't come first,

00:10:50.980 it's America last, it's American citizens last. And guess what? You provide, you provide 0.99

00:10:58.580 the social structure, you provide the underpinnings. You are Burke's little platoons.

00:11:07.380 As I say over and over again, in the Lions Club, in the Kiwanis Club, in the churches,

00:11:11.540 in the Little Leagues, in the cops, in the teachers, in all of it, the PTAs, all of it.

00:11:18.980 That's stability that is underneath American society. And that society is what we generate,

00:11:27.780 what we call the right stuff, because it comes from grit, it comes from determination, it comes from

00:11:32.580 some, you know, you can't even put your finger on it, but you know if somebody's got it.

00:11:38.580 Somebody call that jock culture. What Vivek's arguing for is to go to valedictorian, you know,

00:11:44.820 bro, we've seen the world, we've seen the world what happens to go to valedictorian

00:11:50.100 culture. We're not doing that. We're not doing that. We're not having rule by nerds.

00:11:54.740 This is not the other day about having all the greatest engineers. It's very important. Don't

00:12:00.340 get me wrong. We're at the cutting edge of innovation. We still have more innovation in

00:12:04.420 this country. Why do you think the Chinese Communist Party is over here stealing? The

00:12:07.700 only reason they're even close to being competitive is our capital has financed it and they've stolen

00:12:12.900 our technology. They didn't develop that. They stole 95% of it, either from funny joint ventures

00:12:19.700 or just from people working there. Why are these great companies not coming to India? Why are these

00:12:25.140 great companies not coming? Because of the social stability and the innovation that comes as a blessing

00:12:29.940 of liberty. Back to every patriot's grave to the revolution. That is the DNA of this country,

00:12:39.540 this nation, a nation with borders, a nation with customs and tradition, a nation with flaws. We're

00:12:47.300 not perfect. The motto that President Trump put out is make America great again. We hearken back to our

00:12:58.260 greatest days. We hearken back to that spirit of innovation and just cussedness and toughness and grit

00:13:04.500 that. That got us through so much from number one that that basically through the whole continent

00:13:10.340 was able to build a nation in a civilization out of a vast wilderness.

00:13:17.700 That's what this fight's about. And, and Elon's here with this latest thing last night, this latest

00:13:22.820 quote where he says, um,

00:13:25.540 the reason I'm in America, I'm quoting from this, the re I tell you what, we're going to wait.

00:13:35.620 I'm going to end this segment from Tom Wolf's book and Kaufman's movie, the right stuff.

00:13:42.740 And I strongly recommend you watch that film between now and January 1st, an understated classic

00:13:49.460 of the grit and determination and innovation of America at her finest.

00:13:57.220 Now, we're not going to lose this fight, folks. We've faced longer odds before. We are not going to

00:14:05.060 lose this fight. This program's a scam. It's an economic and financial scam, but it's got a dark

00:14:11.460 underpinning of a hatred. And I'm saying a hatred of American citizens and our beloved Republic.

00:14:20.100 You're going to have to climb over our dead bodies to defeat us. We will never, ever, ever give up, ever.

00:14:28.580 We'll return in a moment to the war room.

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00:16:09.620 action, action, action. Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.

00:16:17.940 This whole canard about racism and Rahim will join us to say racism is about the Indian people. I have

00:16:23.220 the utmost respect for the civilization of India, for the Vedanta and the Gita and the philosophy,

00:16:32.660 much of the philosophy, although I'm a Catholic and a Christian. I can appreciate the depth of their

00:16:38.740 understanding of the human condition. There's no leader in the world that's as tough a nationalist

00:16:46.180 as Modi has done an amazing job in that country, and my admiration for them goes deeply, deep, and what

00:16:52.740 they've accomplished in the United States is profound. It's not about that. When you talk about racism,

00:16:57.700 let's be blunt, it's racism against blacks, Hispanic, and the white working class.

00:17:04.260 They think people, these tech oligarchs, and what they want is they want a tech feudalism.

00:17:13.140 You have to go back to the Middle Ages, to the Renaissance. This is what they want. 0.93

00:17:17.700 They want a network. They don't want a nation. They want a network of which their company or their system

00:17:23.700 or their algorithm is at the railhead. We've had rule by nerds, as Poso pointed out yesterday.

00:17:32.020 It did not work, and we're never going back to that. I want to read from Elon Musk last night,

00:17:39.780 of which I've been the strongest advocate that Elon was a central part of Trump's victory,

00:17:44.260 right? And particularly being smart enough using his engineer's brain to understand it was about

00:17:50.020 to get out the vote canvassing and low-propensity, low-information voters.

00:17:55.220 Elon said last night, and Raheem will jump in here in a moment with Poso and go through some

00:17:59.620 other even nastier tweets he put up last night about MAGA being racist, which is the last refuge of a

00:18:12.180 scoundrel in modern politics to quote Andrew Breitbart via Johnson, right? This last night,

00:18:20.260 if we put it up on the screen, I'd appreciate it. This is Elon Musk. The reason I'm in America,

00:18:25.620 along with so many critical people who built SpaceX, Tesla, and hundreds of other companies that made

00:18:31.460 America strong is because of H-1B. Take a big step back and F yourself, all caps, in the face. 0.98

00:18:39.860 F yourself in the face. I will go to war on this issue, the likes of which you cannot possibly 0.99

00:18:46.420 comprehend. Oh yeah, tough guy? You're going to go to war on the likes of which you cannot

00:18:53.940 possibly comprehend. You're a man-child, to be blunt. I hate to make it personal, but what you have

00:19:00.900 done is try to trash individuals punching down. Remember the first rule of gladiator school, bro,

00:19:08.100 don't punch down. Either punch a peer or punch up. I responded last night, someone please notify

00:19:16.020 child protective services need to do a wellness check on this toddler. I hate to be snarky,

00:19:24.740 but I think the moment called for it. People are coming, oh, you got to take the temperature down. No,

00:19:30.180 we're not going to take the temperature down. We're not going to take the temperature down. Oh no,

00:19:33.220 no. Oh no. Oh no. We do not. It's no backing down. It's doubling down. It's no retreat. It's

00:19:41.460 fixed bayonets and it's advance. And it's not surrender. It's victory. We're going to win this.

00:19:48.500 Let me repeat. The H-1B visa program is a total and complete scam concocted by the lords of easy

00:19:57.860 money on wall street, uh, and the oligarchs in Silicon Valley to both initially to just

00:20:05.700 increase profit margins. But there's a darker element to it today, a contempt of America and

00:20:12.020 American citizens. And we're not going to tolerate it. You need to honor this country and you need to

00:20:19.620 honor the citizens in this country. The citizens in this country are what provided the platform

00:20:25.940 for you nerds even to exist. Because in the predatory nature, the Darwinian environment of

00:20:32.580 the world as it is, you would have already been crushed and destroyed.

00:20:41.300 I want to bring in Jack Posobiec. Jack, I know you're by phone. I thank you for taking time away

00:20:45.700 from the family on a weekend you were trying to take off. Uh, give me your thoughts of where we

00:20:49.780 stand in this fight right now. And I want folks, anybody coming to me and saying, you got to put down,

00:20:54.260 you got to put down, you got to put down the thing and you got to reach some sort of accommodation

00:20:59.540 rapprochement. It's not going to happen. If history shows us anything, it's advanced. We are going to

00:21:06.340 win this. We are going to win this. They are going to surrender. They are not going to continue to

00:21:13.700 destroy American citizens and American engineering by this scam. And this is a total, let me repeat, 0.56

00:21:20.500 if you didn't get it, it's a total and complete scam. Not on the margin, a total and complete. And I,

00:21:25.620 and I recommend right now that Eli back it up right there with all the geniuses,

00:21:30.260 all the Einsteins that came in, let's see the record. Let's see the resumes and let's just,

00:21:34.820 let's, let's the American people see, and they decide whether American citizens with degrees,

00:21:40.500 uh, and, and experience couldn't have filled those billets. Jack Posobiec.

00:21:45.460 Hey Steve, how are you? And, uh, you know, good Saturday morning to the war room posse.

00:21:49.460 And, uh, I'll put it this way. I brought my sons to see the RNC this past summer over there in

00:21:57.940 Milwaukee and they saw president Trump. And I think their favorite was probably Hulk Hogan.

00:22:02.180 I got to admit, it was probably my favorite too. But when JD Vance got up there on the stage,

00:22:07.700 JD Vance gave a full throated endorsement of the idea that the next American government would not be

00:22:15.700 about looking abroad to help foreign people to go and get involved in foreign wars,

00:22:22.580 to go abroad in search of monsters. And oh, by the way, JD Vance said unequivocally that we will no

00:22:29.380 longer be importing cheap foreign labor into this country, that ours will be a movement focused on

00:22:35.860 the American people first. And JD Vance, more than I think anybody else in the entire movement,

00:22:43.140 can point to the fact that he himself is an example that you could come out of the most

00:22:49.460 austere conditions, the most austere conditions that this country has to offer. And yet you could

00:22:55.780 still go on to have that innate talent. As you said yesterday, the superpower of the United States

00:23:02.900 is the American citizen. Look, when we went to the moon, they, they got a couple of corn fed guys

00:23:08.500 from Ohio and they launched them up there with less technology than you have in like a TI 83

00:23:14.820 calculator. And they pointed a joystick up at it and said, Hey, yeah, it's the big circle one.

00:23:19.780 Aim for that. And they strapped a rocket on and they went for it to beat the Russians, to beat the 0.58

00:23:23.780 commies. Like that is the United States of America that we're supposed to be about period, full stop.

00:23:31.300 And all of them, look, you've got people now. I've got my guys. They're out there in full force.

00:23:36.260 They're digging through the H1B databases and they're not going to stop just because some company

00:23:40.980 donated to Republicans or donated to Trump. They're digging up everything. And by the way,

00:23:46.180 they're going into the RNC. They're going into heritage. They're going into anyone who's applying

00:23:52.420 for these H1B visas and saying, are you really sure that you couldn't find a, a, an American to be an

00:23:58.980 accountant, to be a janitor? These are not the types of jobs with this quote unquote 0.1 high

00:24:05.700 skill. These are the types of jobs that you are importing foreign labor for so you can undercut 0.96

00:24:11.140 the American worker. And that's what it's always been about. But you're also the engineers. I'm not

00:24:18.180 buying the engineering thesis. I want to see it. Elon makes the case. I didn't bring this up. Elon did

00:24:24.020 that all his companies are replete with these, including himself. Let's see it. Let's see it.

00:24:29.620 Let's just see it. Let's just see it. Get the information to us. Let's see if these engineers

00:24:32.740 are so special. No, you get indentured servitude of these basic coders because that's what you're

00:24:38.100 paying them. The numbers are out there. Coders and you work like slave labor. I got it. It's not 0.99

00:24:45.060 acceptable here in the United States of America, but I got what you're, I got the business model. I worked

00:24:48.900 on Goldman Sachs. I can understand the math here. It's pretty straightforward, but there's a darker,

00:24:53.940 much deeper and darker kind of fraternity mentality. The contempt that Vivek Ramaswamy

00:25:01.540 put in that thing about American culture. And I'm not saying American culture, hey, it ain't where we

00:25:06.500 want to be. It's gone through the wokeness. You got the corporations all dumped it after November 5th

00:25:11.060 because you broke it. This audience broke it. We know, we know we're a long way from the greatness

00:25:17.380 of America, but it doesn't mean that the basic DNA of this country and the jock culture of this

00:25:24.100 country is a, that's what won at Normandy. That's what won in the skies over Germany.

00:25:29.460 That's what created, that's what helped create the, uh, the weapons and the, and the production

00:25:34.260 that won the war. So we know that Jack will tell me, tell me where this fight's going because now

00:25:40.100 they're trying to, they're trying to dump people off the platforms. Like that's going to matter.

00:25:43.940 That's going to matter. You can't stop us. We're relentless. We're just, we're not gonna,

00:25:48.900 we're never quit. We're never going to quit. We're a thousand times tougher than you guys are.

00:25:54.020 If you don't understand that, keep it up, keep coming after American citizens like you're coming, 1.00

00:25:59.620 and you're going to find out exactly how tough we are. We're not going to tolerate this. You're

00:26:04.020 trashing of the MAGA movement. You're calling the MAGA movement racist. How dare you with the

00:26:09.780 coalition now is starting to build. We have African-Americans and Hispanic families, African-American

00:26:15.460 men finally starting to red pill and awaken. And at that moment, you're going to throw the racism card

00:26:21.060 out. Are you kidding me? You think we're going to tolerate that? We're not going to tolerate it.

00:26:25.220 And I don't care in that regard. I don't care how big a check you, you wrote. But Sobic. 1.00

00:26:30.660 No, look, look, this is what the entire movement has been about. It's the same arguments,

00:26:35.140 by the way, for the Haitians in Springfield or the Venezuelans that were coming over on TPS or

00:26:41.140 all. It's all legal immigration, legal, legal, legal. But it's all done through these programs 0.58

00:26:46.180 that ended up screwing over people and helping out who? The people who are in charge of the

00:26:51.140 companies. And this movement, by the way, we've been just look, look, if you want to understand

00:26:56.020 something, get get a new religion and find out the fact that Joe Biden has left our border open to

00:27:01.860 full on invasion status for the last four years. I don't think he's denied any H-1B application in

00:27:08.820 the last four years. And so if you're going to come in there and say, oh, in this situation,

00:27:13.620 when we are surrounded, when our roads are clogged, when our cities are clogged,

00:27:18.740 when you've got illegals pouring out of the subway, setting people on fire, and your answer is to tell 0.99

00:27:24.020 this movement that we need more immigrants, that we need more of this situation. No, the answer is 1.00

00:27:30.420 absolutely not. There is going to be a question about, can we create a filter? I don't know.

00:27:36.900 Call it the Kobayashi Maru. Call it whatever you want to get the best. If you've got a Nikola Tesla

00:27:42.580 or an Albert Einstein, produce them. Produce them to us. Show us the inventions. I'm more than happy to

00:27:48.340 hear that argument out. Show me. Show me. Produce Tesla. Bring them out. Jack, hang on for one

00:27:54.660 second. Brought to you by Birch Gold on a Saturday morning, on fire. For the American citizen,

00:28:02.660 the greatest resource this nation's ever had. Short break.

00:28:06.740 Poso, the Chronicles of Christianity have been great. I know you've got to get back with the 0.99

00:28:19.620 family. We've got Darren Beattie, Dave Bratt, Raheem are all with us. I'm going to bring them in in a

00:28:24.900 second. Just give me your summary. This weekend, where does this fight go? Because it's getting

00:28:30.340 nastier and more volatile minute by minute, sir. Well, Steve, I want to say thank you again for,

00:28:36.420 uh, and to Grace and everyone in the engine room of the war room that's putting up the Chronicles

00:28:41.060 of the Christian, this four-part series that we've been releasing. We thought that things would be

00:28:46.580 quiet over the Christmas break, but, uh, it turns out that, uh, Maggie don't take any days off,

00:28:51.220 so we're putting that out. I highly encourage everyone to go over to Human Events Daily on Apple

00:28:55.660 and Spotify, wherever you are, go and subscribe, get the first two episodes, and then three and four

00:29:01.500 will drop on Monday and Tuesday, respectively. Because look, if you want to understand why we're

00:29:07.380 in the fight that we're in now, whether it's the H1Bs, whether it's the illegals, whether it's 1.00

00:29:11.940 Haitians, whether it's corporate overlords, whatever, you have to remember where we came from. And if you

00:29:17.240 can remember where we came from and remember what we as a people, as a Christian people, the history of

00:29:24.120 Western civilization is the history of Christianity, period, full stop. If you can understand the foes 1.00

00:29:30.120 that we have faced and the ardures and the challenges that we've overcome in the past, whether it be

00:29:35.460 Nazi fascism, whether it be the Russian communists, whether it be the caliphate in years past, we have 0.76

00:29:40.900 defeated them all, and we will continue to do so. That is what it takes to go to war. So if people want to

00:29:46.900 talk about going to war, guess what? This is the war room, and the war room is always ready

00:29:53.040 for war. So if you think that it's going to take, you know, a couple of tweets to get this movement

00:29:57.760 to back down, or if you think that it's going to be, oh, you know, we're going to pull the

00:30:01.400 donation, we're going to do this, bring it on. Just bring it on is what I say.

00:30:04.640 Bring it on. Jack, social media, where do people get you this weekend?

00:30:10.800 Yeah, it's all on the podcast side, and then of course I'm up on X, just throwing down and

00:30:16.460 getting there. Look, you know, and I saw that Vivek Ramaswamy threw me a retweet yesterday. I said,

00:30:21.760 look, you know, by the way, when it comes to the United States, I'm talking colorblind too,

00:30:27.020 because people are asking about that. I said, no, no, no, it's colorblind. The distinction we want

00:30:30.640 to make is about merit, but merit for the American citizen, for the American citizen.

00:30:35.960 President Trump is not a divisive guy, but the one distinction that he's always made

00:30:39.540 is citizen versus non-citizen. That's what it's about. 0.75

00:30:43.160 And we're not saying it's not about merit. That's what this country's built upon. Don't

00:30:47.320 give me some sophomoric thing to try to crawl your way back in here, dude. Vivek, not going to work.

00:30:53.280 Thank you, Jack. Appreciate you. Put that on a Christmas day, bro. Better learn something about

00:31:00.180 the people in the United States of America. It's a, it's the, it, we are commemorating the birth

00:31:04.880 of Christ. Better just to shut up on a day like that. Okay. Here's, I'm really honored of the next

00:31:12.780 three guests have been in this fight from the beginning. Dave Bratt was an economics professor

00:31:17.940 at Randolph-Macon when from the first time in the history of this Republic, he took out a seating

00:31:23.580 majority leader in Eric Cantor on the topic and issue of immigration. It blew away the establishment

00:31:29.480 when he did it in June of, was it 2014? Absolutely stunned them. Put on, put on hold a whole package

00:31:36.440 the Republican establishment had worked on for, you guessed it, amnesty. Darren Beattie was the

00:31:43.160 only professor of an Ivy League or Ivy League equivalent adjacent college to basically endorse

00:31:49.480 Trump before the 2016 election. And Darren Beattie came into the Trump White House as our most

00:31:55.520 brilliant speech writer and thinker. And Raheem Kassam has been my wingman on this topic. I don't

00:32:01.200 know, since 2012, 2013, when Raheem Kassam led the effort as the strategist for Nigel Farage on Brexit

00:32:09.500 in the central beating heart of the Brexit issue was not that Brussels was making laws for the British

00:32:15.320 people. It was about this topic, immigration. So I think we've got three guys that have a few battle

00:32:21.200 scars on them. And people in Silicon Valley understand this. We ain't coming to this fight

00:32:25.720 last night. Okay. We've been at this for over a decade. Raheem, do a reset for folks just because

00:32:33.000 some people may have actually taken Christmas off. And honestly, I was taking Christmas off until

00:32:37.640 a couple hours into it. I saw this thing starting to build and metastasize. Tell us where we are and

00:32:44.160 what's happening here for our audience that may not be fully up to speed.

00:32:46.920 Yeah, well, Steve, I want people to realize that I think all of us had this at least expectation

00:32:54.440 of having some quiet time, some reflection time, some spiritual time over the course of the Christmas

00:33:01.180 break. But the tech bros had different ideas. The tech bros have been colluding in the background

00:33:07.760 for some time now, trying to get their, you know, open borders. I'm going to call them open borders

00:33:15.220 supporters into positions of power as a result of their last minute interventions in the Trump

00:33:22.780 campaign and in the general election. And it has snowballed into this big public fight now.

00:33:29.020 And I think the two points to make here are that number one, MAGA remains united. It is the Johnny

00:33:37.220 come lately, the people who kind of want to stroke a check to get their policies pushed, to get their

00:33:44.780 government contracts, to get their friends positions, who are causing this rift in the broader coalition

00:33:52.440 here. And I think that's worth reminding ourselves of. The second part of this is, you know, you have to

00:33:58.500 look at this not just as people who want mass uncontrolled migration, as Musk appears to be throwing

00:34:04.880 his shoulder to the wheel of, by the way. And there's far more than what you just read out. I mean,

00:34:10.160 I was going through his X feed this morning of things he was just posting last night. And he's

00:34:15.280 posted, he's retweeted this chap, Noah Smith, an economic blogger, who has just screeds and screeds

00:34:24.660 of anti-Trump stuff, not just on his blog, all over his X. And he says, I will follow Elon Musk into

00:34:32.100 battle over this issue. And Elon Musk is retweeting it. So now we're seeing them conscripting in

00:34:38.300 anti-Trump activists to their H-1B. And by the way, it's not just H-1B. It's a massive immigration

00:34:45.320 battle that's going on right now over the Christmas and New Year break. But these are the people,

00:34:50.440 Steve, who want to follow the British political establishment, the Brussels political establishment,

00:34:56.280 in turning America into kind of another Singapore on Thames kind of deal, right? For them,

00:35:02.480 it's just an economy. For them, it's just a way to make money. For them, there is no culture. There

00:35:08.540 is no such thing as an American citizen. There is no such thing as American history. This for them is 0.89

00:35:14.100 a moment. And by the way, don't take my word for it, ladies and gentlemen. Go to Elon Musk's X feed

00:35:19.020 yourself. Click on the reply section. Go through all of it and look at the things he is saying about what it

00:35:25.400 means to be an American. For him, it's literally just about an economic unit of measurement. Now,

00:35:31.260 listen, this has to be taken as part of a wider piece here, because this isn't just about one Indian

00:35:38.060 guy who's immigrated, who they want to put in as an AI advisor into the White House. This is about

00:35:43.800 hundreds of thousands of H-1B visas, H-2B visas. I mean, they were even finding E3 visas yesterday

00:35:51.920 for Chippendales, strippers, male strippers coming in to Las Vegas from Australia.

00:35:59.340 Now, this has caused such a fight that people are going through the detail on these things.

00:36:03.120 And one of the things we're going to be doing in the next couple of days is actually going through

00:36:06.640 all the H-1B data over the last couple of years and say, OK, so you've had hundreds of thousands of

00:36:13.360 people every year coming into the country, you know, and especially looking at this database and

00:36:18.580 looking at where they're going. But question about all of this is, what's enough? Where does

00:36:24.300 it stop? How many hundreds of thousands of, you know, engineers and technicians and coders?

00:36:30.780 Right, exactly. That's the buried lead. That's the hidden message. For them, it never stops. And that

00:36:37.040 means for them, there is no America. There is no culture. There is no integration. There is no 0.94

00:36:41.600 assimilation. How many H-1B visa holders, right, are part of those little platoons that you talked about 0.75

00:36:47.240 me the first thing? How many are getting involved in their communities? Zero. How many are building?

00:36:50.280 Zero. How many are part of the U.S. military? Zero. You know, how many people are actually doing

00:36:54.120 the work to be, you know, civil society leaders? Zero. They're in it for a check. They're in it for

00:37:01.360 a job. They're in it for their visas and their green cards. And that's all it is to them.

00:37:08.040 Darren Beattie, you've been at this for a long time. You showed the courage to step out

00:37:12.260 before Trump won at 16. And this was one of the key, if not the key issue. You fought this in

00:37:17.260 the White House. They've come after you. One of the best guys, nicest guys, most inclusive guys I've

00:37:22.320 ever met, Darren Beattie. They've come after you hard. Tell me what you've, what's transpired over

00:37:27.360 the last couple of days and how important is this fight? Well, it's very important. And I think the

00:37:32.920 critical thing is to separate the signal from the noise because there's a kind of factional

00:37:38.680 dispute that's gained a significance almost beyond the actual, you know, substance of the item in

00:37:46.320 question. And I think for the substance of the debate, clarity is very important because on the

00:37:52.160 one hand, we're hearing stuff about, oh, we want to attract the highest skilled, highest talent.

00:37:59.760 And I think it's important to understand that talent and cheap labor are very different things.

00:38:06.440 And we need to be clear as to do these tech companies want the H-1Bs because they're really

00:38:12.100 exceptionally talented or do they want them simply because it's economically beneficial?

00:38:18.440 And then if it's the latter, we need to understand why it's economically beneficial.

00:38:22.540 It's economically beneficial because they effectively have indentured slaves. And what do the H-1B 1.00

00:38:30.240 recipients get out of it? Their benefit is the expectation of a green card and chain migration

00:38:36.460 at the end. So it's really the taxpayers who are footing the difference there. That's the whole

00:38:41.960 reason that's sort of the privatized profit, socialized cost models that makes the H-1B so

00:38:49.940 efficient. And so it's really not a natural market determined price equilibrium. So even on

00:38:55.620 their own terms of economics, the H-1B is a scam. And I had a tweet that went semi-viral basically

00:39:05.800 saying, in fact, H-1B, precisely because it passes off the cost of the H-1Bs onto the taxpayers,

00:39:12.380 should be on the Doge chopping block, not something that Doge is promoting. I think the bigger picture,

00:39:20.220 though, is I'm even more obsessed with talent than some of these so-called tech bros. I'm even more

00:39:28.840 obsessed with it. I think we have it in the United States. I think we need a Manhattan Project scale

00:39:36.000 operation to better identify, cultivate, and channel native homegrown talent. And secondly,

00:39:44.680 for the exceptional minds of the world that are at the, say, 100th of a percentile, 100th of 1%

00:39:54.580 level, there's just not a lot of those, the United States absolutely should have a monopoly on all of

00:40:01.280 those brains. But neither of those two imperatives has anything to do with H-1B.

00:40:07.180 But hang on. Hang on. Hang on. I know. And I'd love your Manhattan Project. I'm going to go this

00:40:12.160 latter. Here's my theory of the case. We believe in nationalism. We just don't believe in American 0.77

00:40:19.140 nationalism. We think after the Treaty of Westphalia that the nation state is the way, is the unit,

00:40:24.400 at least as mankind's evolved today, right, of allowing the most potential fulfillment and freedom.

00:40:30.920 We believe in other strong nations, a planet that had strong nations, vibrant nations,

00:40:36.360 people that love their countries. And most people, if you see throughout the world, and most movies,

00:40:40.240 all want to go home and all want to make their nations work. Why do we want to take all the 0.53

00:40:46.380 talent, all the top 0, 0.1%? That to me is still imperialism. It's what the city of London did back

00:40:55.980 in the 19th century. I don't personally have a problem with that. I think we should have that very,

00:40:59.740 very top, but that has nothing to do with H-1B, which is just an excuse for cheap and really mediocre

00:41:05.720 labor. And they're passing off the cost to taxpayers. It's totally different story. It has

00:41:10.560 nothing to do with talent. Hang on. Just, I know you got a bolt, but I got to hold you to the next

00:41:16.740 one with Brett. The argument you just made is one of the most brilliant. This should be top of the

00:41:23.200 Doge Chopping Block. Not something they're pushing. Darren Beattie, Dave Brett, Raheem Kassam,

00:41:30.280 Stephen K. Bannon, and a cast of others are going to come up in our second hour. We're on fire here

00:41:36.580 in a Saturday in the War Room. We're going to leave you with the right stuff. We'll be back in a moment.

00:41:53.200 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:42:13.080 Okay. Birchgold.com slash Bannon. End of the dollar empire. The sixth free installment

00:42:21.040 is now ready for you. It's the modern monetary theory, the idea that broke the world. There's

00:42:28.480 $300 trillion roughly roundup of debt throughout the world. And we're about to have the world's

00:42:34.060 biggest margin call. Remember, one of the things I've been saying here is that if you look at the

00:42:37.780 three lines of work that President Trump has to get right away, the clear of the wars in Ukraine,

00:42:42.460 in the Middle East, and again, with the Chinese Communist Party on the Eurasian landmass,

00:42:46.840 President Trump has a step in the middle of that. They're trying to jam him up to another $1.2

00:42:50.500 billion to Ukraine. On the immigration, the border deportations, here we're having this massive fight

00:42:55.580 over H-1B visas, which is, Darren Beattie is about to tell you, is just a way to flood the zone 0.98

00:43:00.480 with chain migration. Okay. But the most important, the most deadly thing is Janet Yellen. I've told you

00:43:08.260 that between the Federal Reserve and the Treasury, they're messing around with the balance

00:43:12.320 sheet. She dropped a neutron bomb on people yesterday, sending a letter that said,

00:43:17.060 hey, guess what? Extraordinary measures on the debt has to start, I don't know, January 13th.

00:43:22.540 They have been playing around with the balance sheet to jam President Trump into a corner.

00:43:28.180 I'm going to get to more of that in the second hour. Darren Beattie, I know you got a bold

00:43:30.940 love you took time out on Saturday. Just walk me back through before I get Brett, my economist,

00:43:36.380 on here. Your economic argument, which is so brilliant at how this leads to chain migration

00:43:41.320 and taxpayers pay for their own destruction, sir.

00:43:46.300 Absolutely. Just to encapsulate the distinctions I think are relevant to this debate,

00:43:50.600 I think recruiting genuinely rarefied levels of talent at the 100th of a percentile is something

00:44:00.220 we should do. We can do it. We have done it. It has nothing to do with H-1B. That level of talent

00:44:07.740 has nothing to do with what we're bringing in with H-1B. H-1B is not about talent. It's not even about

00:44:14.340 high skill. What it's about is cost cutting. And we need to look into how the tech companies cut their

00:44:21.740 costs by bringing in the H-1Bs. So they bring in the H-1Bs. The H-1Bs work for far less than an 0.98

00:44:29.460 American would. That's the other thing is they just need to pay more to get the American and that's 0.87

00:44:35.320 what they should do. Now, people would say, oh, you're distorting the market in that way. I say,

00:44:39.640 no, the market is distorted by the H-1B process because in exchange from the H-1B recipient side,

00:44:46.880 they say, okay, we're going to go to the U.S., take a low wage, which is not probably low compared

00:44:52.240 to their home countries, nonetheless, live as an indentured servant. Part of what they get is the

00:44:57.600 low wage from the tech company. But the real sweetener, as I said, is the expectation of getting

00:45:03.220 a green card, which will ultimately allow for chain migration. And then, of course, all of the children

00:45:08.840 that are born from that chain migration wave, those children are automatically citizens. And all of the

00:45:16.200 costs attendant to that, unto generations, unto infinity, unto posterity, all of those costs are

00:45:25.140 not borne by the tech companies hiring the H-1Bs. They're borne by the United States taxpayers. That 0.57

00:45:32.740 is the scam that the tech companies privatize their costs by paying marginal wages to the H-1Bs, 0.92

00:45:40.500 and the taxpayers foot the bill in terms of paying for the green cards and the chain migration later.

00:45:47.880 So it's a distortion of the economy. It's not the true equilibrium. If the tech companies really paid

00:45:54.340 the full inclusive price, they wouldn't want the H-1Bs to begin with. It has nothing to do with talent 0.97

00:46:01.880 or high skill. It's indentured servitude to drive down wages and opportunities for American citizens 0.88

00:46:09.520 that have every bit of skill and work ethic. Darren, where do people get you over this battlefield

00:46:15.480 weekend, sir? Revolver.news. Hot as ever on the cutting edge of all of these topics and more.

00:46:24.200 Revolver.news. You're killing it, dude. Look forward to talking to you over the weekend. Make

00:46:32.560 sure you go to Revolver all weekend. We're in combat all weekend on this. Dave Bratt,

00:46:38.300 give me some perspective before we end the first hour and get ready for our second hour, sir,

00:46:43.080 as only you can do. Yeah, Raheem and Darren Beattie, it's just an honor to be with these

00:46:47.600 gentlemen because they always get it right. I just want to double down on both of their

00:46:54.160 arguments. When you talk about this issue and racism comes into play, you're only hearing about

00:47:01.040 one side of the economic equation, like Darren just said. You're hearing about the benefit side,

00:47:04.660 but nothing on the cost side. Economists are supposed to weigh the full cost of doing all this,

00:47:09.920 right? And so you're also known by the company you keep up in the swamp. It's a little bit

00:47:15.420 interesting that every speaker for the past 30 years has been pro-amnesty, pro-illegal immigration,

00:47:24.160 pro-immigration, now Biden on steroids, right? But our leadership class is there because of the

00:47:29.460 money, because of the budget, because of what I call the giant Excel spreadsheet in the sky.

00:47:35.780 So one of the CNN commentators say, oh, these brutes, you know, these MAGA people,

00:47:40.860 they don't understand the complexities of it all. No, we precisely understand the complexities of it 0.90

00:47:47.000 all. It's in the budget. What they're all doing is protecting their budget line items. So I was in

00:47:52.260 Congress. I worked on federal workforce boards. I worked in the Commonwealth of Virginia on state

00:47:57.980 workforce boards with education. I worked with local city and county workforce boards to build

00:48:04.840 human capital. NIH spends more on education and everything, the swamp up there between agriculture,

00:48:10.840 big pharma, whatever. There's tons of money floating around, and none of it's hitting the target.

00:48:15.320 That's what we're frustrated about. And so when it comes to this economic argument,

00:48:21.260 what it really boils down to, and I've met with, you know, CEOs, small businesses, medium, large,

00:48:26.660 you can make them a deal, right? And all political views are my own. But I worked also with universities

00:48:31.960 and, you know, state agencies, et cetera. You can make the corporations a deal and say, hey,

00:48:37.300 I got a program for you. I'm going to give you 20 engineers.

00:48:40.000 We'll scale them up exactly to fit your firm. Even we'll do everything you want, but, but it's

00:48:47.220 reciprocal, right? You've got to, you've got to sign the bottom line on that deal. And guess what

00:48:51.160 the corporations say every time? No deal. They want to cherry pick from the Harvard's and the

00:48:56.840 Princeton's and MIT's. They don't want 20. They want to go picking and they want us to pay for it.

00:49:04.220 Hey, hang on for one second, Dave. You're going to be with us for the second hour. This is Rahim

00:49:09.460 Kassam. I think we're going to try to get Julie Kelly on, on fire on a Saturday morning. Why? 0.85

00:49:17.220 Because people are trying to run a scam and destroy American citizens, and we are not going to tolerate

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Bannon's War Room - December 28, 2024

Episode 4156： MAGA Refuses To Kneel To Technocrats

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