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00:02:44.000Like I said, he wakes up very early in the morning and he can sleep on the floor underneath his desk.
00:02:50.000So he doesn't care about money like the other big tech oligarch.
00:02:57.000So I think there is a little bit of a misunderstanding and misguidance from a Musk perspective.
00:03:05.000Okay, but hang on now, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:03:12.000A guy who's going to get us to Mars, and not just to the moon for a visit and a drive-by.
00:03:18.000I mean a colony on Mars to have an alternative for the human species of which he's one of the leaders in artificial intelligence and chipping so that he's already working on Homo sapiens plus or 2.0.
00:03:33.000But we'll leave that topic for a different day.
00:03:36.000But to save humanity and to take humanity, he's got to be pretty smart.
00:03:40.000And being pretty smart, just again, does he not fully understand soup to nuts the total and complete scam that H-1B visas are when you talk about high-skilled foreign workers?
00:03:54.000I don't think he does because we need to move up one level in the metacognition kind of value system.
00:04:05.000He sees the world from a spreadsheet perspective.
00:04:08.000And Steve, Mr. Bannon, I love your perspective because I'm from the same viewpoint.
00:04:15.000You lead by human values, Judeo-Christian values.
00:04:19.000This is what makes America great, the culture, you know, these type of value systems that we have.
00:04:27.000And we've seen government departments ran by WizKid in the past.
00:04:33.000And as you know, the war room, I'm a child of war-torn Vietnam.
00:04:38.000And so the WizKids back in the 1960s was led by Robert McNamara, the Secretary of Defense.
00:04:48.000And they did an awful job with Vietnam torching, bombing a developing country, killing mostly women and children.
00:04:58.000And, of course, the young men, American men to serve them.
00:05:02.000So we need to be really careful when we rule by spreadsheet.
00:05:07.000And I think that's the misguidance of Mr. Musk and Mr. Ramashwamy.
00:05:13.000No offense to them, but they are the new WizKids, WizKids 2.0.
00:05:21.000And I love Mr. Musk personally and all he's done for humanity.
00:05:27.000But we need to lead by human values, Steve.
00:07:08.000And that's why year after year after year, you got the same lies and misrepresentations that an American young man, 50,000, went over as combat casualties.
00:07:18.000Because you had the same type of sociopathic overlord you have in Silicon Valley today that just looks at a spreadsheet and doesn't think.
00:07:28.000Speaking of that spreadsheet, hang on, Allison, hang on, Kevin.
00:08:01.000And they're maniacal about thinking about not how to better your life, how to get around and make you compete against everybody on planet Earth unfairly.
00:08:11.000So, Will, walk us through what's on National Pulse today that you've been able to go through, sir.
00:08:38.000You kind of go, wait, wait, seriously.
00:08:40.000But in this USCIS report, there's also an interesting data point that in the prior fiscal year, in the fiscal year 2023, we actually saw over 55,000 non-immigrant visas converted over to work visas of various types.
00:08:57.000Most of these were originally student visas or tourist visas.
00:08:59.000And USCIS basically throws up their hands and says, yes, these are the spouses and children of H-1B visa holders who are now in the U.S. as well because it's chain migration.
00:09:11.000And they're now getting work permits and work visas as well.
00:09:14.000So, you know, buried in this report, roughly around 200,000 additional individuals are coming over with the H-1Bs.
00:09:22.000So, again, these are, you know, a husband or a wife or a child for the most part.
00:09:28.000So, you also don't just have this 386,000 people coming over with the H-1B program, but you also have their kids, their wife, you know, family members, things like that.
00:09:38.880And you slowly start bringing over whole families and you end up in this chain migration situation.
00:09:43.000And, you know, and also speaking to Kevin's point earlier, you know, in terms of people sort of being locked into these jobs, that's also backed up by this USCIS data.
00:09:55.280Only 75,000, about 76,000, actually, H-1B workers filed for a change of employment petition.
00:10:38.100And what else are you guys going to be rolling out that we can expect?
00:10:41.420Yeah, you can check out all of our work at thenationalpulse.com.
00:10:46.500You know, Raheem, Sam, on Twitter, I'm at Wupton, W-U-P-T-O-N.
00:10:52.300You know, the next kind of project that we've got coming out of the pipeline here is actually looking at some of these nonprofit and contractors that are exempt from the H-1B caps.
00:11:00.940So these are the guys who are kind of, you know, the statutory cap is $85,000, but we're letting in, you know, probably about $30,000 more on top of that through these uncapped employers.
00:11:10.960So the next stage that we're going to be is kind of looking at who these individuals are, who these companies are, and what exactly it is that they're working on.
00:11:18.140Because, again, most of these H-1Bs are bachelor's degrees, you know, some masters, very, very few PhDs, and a lot of them just have technical training.
00:11:27.120Thank you so much, Will Upton. Great work. National Pulse.
00:11:33.580You get Raheem's breakdown of all this. Just amazing.
00:11:36.060Hopefully, Will Upton, we're not going to have access to you when you go into the administration, hopefully back over to Treasury. Great guy.
00:11:45.300Kevin, if they say, oh, we need the Einsteins, we need the most brilliant, we need this, the higher skilled, the Americans.
00:11:53.620If we deported every H-1B worker this afternoon on the 30th of December in the year of our Lord, 2024, are there American workers of the same skill sets or higher that could take their place, sir?
00:12:08.800Absolutely. These Americans had to train their replacements, don't forget.
00:12:12.800In the last two years, between 2022 and 2024, Silicon Valley has laid off over 600,000 workers.
00:12:24.880There are roughly 583,000 H-1Bs in the country today.
00:12:30.320Now, interestingly enough, as bad as H-1B is, there's an even worse program.
00:12:36.800It's called STEM Optional Practical Training, and this wasn't even legislated by Congress.
00:12:44.400This is a backdoor deal done by Michael Chertoff and Bill Gates to create this employment authorization documents for foreign students.
00:12:54.700So if you're a foreign student and you graduate with a STEM degree, you can get a three-year work permit here in the United States.
00:13:02.720Employers love it because they don't have to pay FICA, Social Security, health care because they're a student, and they can pay this OPT worker anything they want because it's practical training.
00:13:18.580We need to chevron this thing, and the Supreme Court needs to take a stand on it and get rid of it because this wasn't even legislated by Congress.
00:13:26.380And right now, there are as many optional practical training employment documents out there as there are H-1B workers.
00:13:38.900So, yes, Steve, to your question, if we got rid of this program tomorrow, we would be just fine.
00:16:36.200It's bad enough we tolerate the destruction of Lao Beijing by a demonic regime in Beijing, a group of gangsters and criminals.
00:16:46.380But it's almost as bad, I think, that we allowed indentured servitude into this nation for higher margins for our sociopathic overlords in Silicon Valley.
00:16:59.140Allison, I know recently you've punched out on the Democratic Party.
00:17:06.600What was it about this time in American history that obviously made somebody from Stanford, which is the second best university in this country and back at Harvard, why you shifted, particularly during the age of Trump, to kind of support us?
00:17:24.960Yeah, so it's not your father's Republican Party.
00:17:31.120Trump's Republican Party, I feel, with MAGA is very inclusive.
00:17:36.640It's about free speech, not censoring people.
00:17:52.980I couldn't even really walk out on the streets of San Francisco.
00:17:55.860And when I talked about it, people said, oh, Allison, you're overreacting about the grocery stores closing.
00:18:01.780You're overreacting about crime, about the stuff going on at the schools.
00:18:07.880They wanted to rename Abraham Lincoln High School and spend $27 million to rename all these high schools because they said Abraham Lincoln was a racist.
00:18:38.160We shouldn't be doing this to our public school districts.
00:18:41.360We need to be, you know, the fundamental problem with this argument is that we need to focus more on STEM education in the U.S.
00:18:49.040The VEC is right in that regards, but we don't talk about all the DEI stuff that we had to encounter.
00:18:56.240And when I was running the team school board, you know, there were many DEI initiatives.
00:19:02.120They wanted to have drag queen story time with a drag show on the side.
00:19:08.540Why are we spending public school money, taxpayers' money on this?
00:19:12.700We need if we're and we are having this training issues, workforce training in STEM.
00:19:18.460We need to be focusing on real life STEM education, making it more engaging, training the next generation of workers in the age of the golden age of A.I.
00:19:29.520So we need to be focusing on math, reading and science and not this DEI curriculum.
00:19:53.580So I'm really excited to go now to the MAGA Trump Republican Party.
00:20:01.180I think it's a big realignment of values, right?
00:20:04.980And President-elect Trump is leading by values, and he appreciates Mr. Musk and Mr. Vivek's spreadsheet and the way they look at the world.
00:20:13.420But, like, you know, we appreciate how you look at the world, too, Steve.
00:20:43.000Laura, certain aspects of this have—one of my concerns is that people don't appreciate.
00:20:49.540When we say America first, we're talking about the nation, and a nation has borders, a nation has customs and tradition, a nation has, most importantly, its citizens.
00:21:33.460Well, you have to understand the philosophy that all of these tech bros and the technocratic tyrants and the billionaires who come from this very oppressive society in Silicon Valley subscribe to
00:21:45.280in order to understand what their long-term goals are for infiltrating the White House.
00:21:50.460And so it really all begins with the fact that they subscribe to a neo-reactionary political movement, otherwise known as Dark Enlightenment.
00:21:58.580And essentially what that means is that they want society to operate like a corporation.
00:22:04.760They believe that the most high IQ people, the tech elites, the wealthiest people in our country should be the people who are leading our society.
00:22:13.980And so what they really want is they want a country that operates like a corporation with a CEO monarch.
00:22:20.280And so you have people who have unlimited resources, billionaires in Silicon Valley, who are controlling the flow of information, who subscribe to a philosophy that is really trying to advocate for the elimination of democracy, the elimination of a constitutional republic, and the implementation of monarchy in America.
00:22:40.120And Peter Thiel subscribes to this, and I really do believe that people like Elon Musk subscribe to this etiology.
00:22:47.980J.D. Vance, who is now the incoming vice president, has also subscribed to this etiology.
00:22:55.140And you can see that he's actually spoken out about how he supports Dark Enlightenment.
00:23:00.680And what we need to have a conversation about is what is it going to mean for the future of our country, our national security, and the incoming Trump administration if we have a bunch of technocrats who are also essentially welfare queens because their companies are receiving government subsidies and they want to take over our defense industry.
00:23:21.140If you have a bunch of tech bros with billions of dollars and direct unfettered access to the vice president and the president of the United States, and then they are also very cordial with our adversaries as in China and Iran.
00:23:36.160We see that Elon Musk is having these meetings off the books with Iranian officials, with Chinese officials.
00:23:42.140What does that mean for us and the future of our constitutional republic?
00:23:45.200Okay, hang on. Hang on for a second. Hang on for a second. I want to go back because I missed J.D. on Dark Enlightenment.
00:23:51.940First off, explain to us again because we love nomenclature and putting out – because ideas have consequences.
00:23:58.600When you say this construct, Dark Enlightenment, what is it? What does it mean? Where did it come from? Put some meat on the bone.
00:24:06.900Well, as I said before, it's this idea that society should operate as a corporation and the elite should be in charge.
00:24:15.960And so one of the brain children behind this philosophy is a guy by the name of Curtis Yarvin.
00:24:21.300And I don't know how much time I have really to explain all of this, but Curtis Yarvin, of course, receives his funding from Peter Thiel.
00:24:28.720Peter Thiel was a big backer of J.D. Vance's Senate campaign, and he claimed to have been a big supporter of President Trump yet several months before the election when he was speaking in the UK.
00:24:40.160And he was asked point blank whether or not he was going to be supporting the incoming Trump administration and if he was going to be voting for President Trump and J.D. Vance.
00:24:48.600He really just had this kind of stutter attack, as he often does, where he profusely stuttered on stage and really just seemed incapable of answering a very simple question.
00:24:58.760Will you be voting for President Trump and J.D. Vance?
00:25:02.200So it's very concerning because these guys, what they want to do is they want to basically incite a civil war in our country, I believe.
00:25:09.360I believe that they want this idea of tech feudalism to create so much conflict with the nationalist MAGA base so that it kind of sparks a civil war, which is what it's being called now, right?
00:26:01.020Well, we can have a much greater conversation at this at a later time.
00:26:05.120I really want to focus, though, on the tech tyrants, and I want to talk about how Elon Musk and Peter Thiel and how a lot of these Silicon Valley billionaires.
00:26:15.300Lar, Lar, Lar, Lar, Lar, I know what you want to focus on.
00:26:45.460We'll hold you through the break because I want to get to the bottom of this of what their intentions are.
00:26:49.920Because this is all new ground for folks.
00:26:51.820This is like, what are they talking about?
00:26:53.300I want to make sure the word posse is up to speed on the ideas because ideas have consequences.
00:26:58.460You've seen it manifest in this kind of grubby fight over H-1B visas, which, let me repeat, must be eliminated 100%.
00:27:07.660The workers that are here on H-1B visas should be deported at the same time we're deporting the 15 million illegal aliens that Biden brought across the border to suppress wages of low-income workers.
00:27:20.560American workers should be hired immediately to fill those gaps.
00:27:24.560And then we should start the discussions on reparations.