Bannon's War Room - Episode 4160： Creating The American Oligarch

00:00:00.000 Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, the tech overlords who appear to be running Trump's second-term agenda,

00:00:06.060 rely on highly skilled immigrants to power their enterprises. 1.00

00:00:10.040 Those immigrants come to this country to work with an H-1B visa, 0.94

00:00:13.360 which provides terms that are extremely favorable to their employers

00:00:16.020 and also an amazing opportunity for the folks coming to work here.

00:00:20.040 Folks basically have to stay at their job in order to stay in the country. 1.00

00:00:23.080 If they leave their position, they have two months to find a new job or risk getting deported.

00:00:27.400 So you can see why someone like Elon Musk likes them so much.

00:00:32.200 For example, this is not abstract, when Musk bought Twitter and a huge percentage of the staff headed for the exits,

00:00:38.660 Vice News reported on how Twitter employees on visas can't just quit.

00:00:43.740 The other side of the debate over the H-1B visa is the one that folks like Stephen Miller and Stephen Bannon

00:00:49.440 have been pushing for years, that we should restrict, limit, perhaps, end all immigration in the U.S.,

00:00:56.040 legal and illegal, right?

00:00:58.600 Stuff at the border around asylum, but also H-1B visas.

00:01:02.500 I mean, just listen to the two of them on Bannon's old radio show back in March of 2016.

00:01:07.160 This is before Trump was even the Republican nominee.

00:01:09.000 Take a listen.

00:01:09.380 And they see these oligarchs down there with 54 private jets, and they're not down there for their health.

00:01:16.540 They're called together by Karl Rove, and it's a stop-Trump movement.

00:01:19.760 And it's a stop-Trump movement because they want unlimited H-B-1 visas.

00:01:23.040 Isn't the beating heart of this problem right now the real beating heart of it, of what we've got to get sorted here,

00:01:27.940 is not illegal immigration, as horrific as that is, and it's horrific.

00:01:32.220 And don't we have a problem?

00:01:33.240 We've looked the other way on this legal immigration that's kind of overwhelmed the country. 0.94

00:01:37.180 The history of America is that an immigration on period is followed by an immigration off period.

00:01:44.180 So see, be very clear there, right?

00:01:45.940 H-1B visas, legal immigration, and immigration off period.

00:01:49.500 Like, they have a pretty clear vision.

00:01:50.700 Miller's going to be the one writing that border bill.

00:01:52.940 So those two factions of the Republican Party, with pretty profoundly different views,

00:01:58.160 are at each other's throats about what to do with their newfound power.

00:02:02.660 Should they use the legal immigration system to continue supplying Silicon Valley and other industries with highly skilled workers?

00:02:08.800 Or should they apply some new racist immigrant exclusion act, like the Chinese Exclusion Act,

00:02:14.260 to deport all those workers and let Americans take their jobs? 0.95

00:02:18.320 In defense of the former argument, that is, continuing H-1B visas,

00:02:21.420 Elon Musk, spent his Christmas week absolutely melting down the social media platform he owns.

00:02:27.500 He has since deleted many of those posts, including one that replied approvingly

00:02:31.440 to a post calling American burn workers in general a slur,

00:02:36.680 the R word, for being too stupid to be able to do the jobs that workers on H-1B visas were doing.

00:02:43.420 One emblematic post is still up, where Musk tells opponents of H-1B visas to F themselves

00:02:48.180 before pledging to go to war on this issue, the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend.

00:02:53.660 Although he seems to have underestimated how much the MAGA diehards hate immigration,

00:02:58.160 his online base of right-wing Twitter trolls quickly turned on him,

00:03:01.300 spurned down by the likes of Bannon, as well as Laura Loomer, the fringe far-right activist,

00:03:05.660 who spent much of the fall cozying up to Trump before his campaign stepped in and pushed her aside.

00:03:10.280 It's not a civil war because they're not tough enough. They're just not.

00:03:15.140 I don't think that it's acceptable for George Soros, Elon Musk, or Peter Thiel.

00:03:20.800 It doesn't matter what side of the political aisle a billionaire is on.

00:03:24.800 I don't think that it's acceptable for billionaires to have this much power and this much access.

00:03:29.120 On the policy dispute here, and there is a real one, Trump actually took Musk's side on it,

00:03:35.980 coming out in support of H-1B visas. In comments to the New York Post,

00:03:39.540 quote,

00:03:40.060 I have many H-1B visas on my properties. I've been a believer in H-1B. I've used it many times.

00:03:44.400 It's a great program.

00:03:45.520 Now, I have to say, I think Trump might be confused here.

00:03:49.400 I don't think his properties are hiring a ton of, say, like software engineers off H-1B.

00:03:53.380 As the New York Times reports, Trump has been a frequent and longtime user of the similarly named

00:03:57.980 but starkly different H-2B visa program, which is for unskilled workers like gardeners and

00:04:04.140 housekeepers. Of course, you can drive yourself crazy and try to track Trump's position on anything

00:04:09.120 at a moment. In 2016, of course, he called for, guess what? The H-1B to be banned.

00:04:17.200 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:04:21.040 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:04:27.460 Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. The people have

00:04:32.260 had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything

00:04:36.020 in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:04:39.040 And where do people like that go to share the big lie? Mega media. I wish in my soul,

00:04:45.560 I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:04:48.460 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,

00:04:56.180 this country will be saved.

00:04:59.380 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:05:02.580 It's Tuesday, 31 December, in the year of our Lord, 2024. That's the last time I guess we'll say

00:05:13.500 that, or this show, this morning's show. It's the last show of the year. We've got a lot

00:05:17.640 planned to get through, but we've got to get through this first thing about immigration. I want to bring

00:05:22.580 in. Sean Spicer. Sean, you were comms director for the White House and the spokesman for the

00:05:29.100 president, and also on the campaign, you came in and bailed us out and helped Jason for the sprint

00:05:34.040 to the end. But I first met you, Sean, when you were comms director with Wrights over the RNC. In fact,

00:05:39.860 spring of 16, we had a lot of interaction together, Commander. And you remember Breitbart Radio,

00:05:45.800 my morning show, we're talking about the exact same topic. In fact, I think that Karl Rove,

00:05:50.440 I'm not saying U.N. Wrights instigated it, but I think that was somehow an RNC-adjacent

00:05:56.440 meeting where they all went down there. That was the last gasp of the Stop Trump movement.

00:06:02.800 But what are we talking about? We're talking about H-1B visas. You remember that day, sir?

00:06:07.880 Dude, I remember very vividly getting a call saying, who is this Steve Bannon guy,

00:06:12.840 and how are we going to solve this? And I said, well, let's go meet with him,

00:06:15.640 because I don't think it's going away, and you still haven't 10 years later.

00:06:20.440 Yeah, it's been amazing.

00:06:23.460 And thank you for the kind words. It's been one heck of a ride.

00:06:28.460 Well, Sean, so you've been there since the beginning, and obviously you've had a job with

00:06:33.500 Wrights. You guys were kind of the establishment guys, but you saw the issues that were popping

00:06:37.240 up. And I know that you went out of your way behind the scenes of the donors, say, hey, look,

00:06:40.960 you guys got to understand, there's something happening in the country. We're here, what,

00:06:45.640 eight years later, and we're having a debate about this very topic. Now, you have your own show.

00:06:50.800 You've got your own Twitter feed, which is huge. You've got a big following. You did something the

00:06:56.540 other day, and walk us through what you did. In the heat of this, in the nastiest part of it,

00:07:00.980 which is about 48 hours ago, you decided to do something. What was it?

00:07:03.720 Yeah, first, let me just address what you said. I think the one thing that you and a lot of the

00:07:09.500 folks showed us is that for so long, we'd heard, this is how it works, right? You can't do anything

00:07:14.880 different. This is the system. This is how, and I think what Donald Trump showed us more than

00:07:20.260 you can fight back. You can be a fighter and win. And that's what I think broke the mold for so many of

00:07:28.540 us that said it's not just normal. So what I did the other day is I heard this discussion

00:07:32.660 on, about H-1B visas, and I put it out there. I literally just tweeted, let's settle this. H-1B

00:07:37.880 visas pro. I'm with Elon. Khan Bannon is right. And 67%, and it trended this way. I made it

00:07:45.180 intentionally 48 hours because I didn't want it to be a flash in the pan. I wanted people to be able to

00:07:50.260 see it, digest it, share it. Look at that thing over there, 92,674 votes. Is this scientific? No.

00:07:57.880 But is this where the people are? Yes. And what I found most interesting, Steve,

00:08:03.340 wasn't just the vote, but I read through a lot of the comments. And what I found interesting about

00:08:08.820 this issue more than anything is that some of the commentary that you have shared goes back to my

00:08:12.820 original comment. For so long, we've been told we need H-1B visas because Americans can't fill this.

00:08:19.180 We've been just given a blanket excuse. This is how things are done. Suck it up, right? What I read

00:08:26.480 through a lot of the comments and through a lot of the commentary that you're putting out there is,

00:08:30.660 no, there is a different way. That's not, you don't have to just accept the status quo.

00:08:35.700 These guys created this problem and now they want everyone to bail them out, right? So we can train

00:08:41.500 Americans. We can reprioritize putting Americans in these problems. We shouldn't just accept the 0.98

00:08:47.140 status quo because they say so. Sean, given the new coalition we've put together,

00:08:54.220 and obviously it's the early days of that, you know, we did it in 16 a little bit, but much more

00:08:58.460 in 24 where you have African-American males now coming to the forefront, either not voting for

00:09:03.360 Democrats and or sometimes voting for President Trump. And you have Hispanics in record numbers,

00:09:09.900 I think over 50% of the Hispanic vote. Last night on MSMEC, when they say, hey, we kind of like what

00:09:16.360 Bannon's saying, but we know they're racist at the end of the day. These guys are all racist and they

00:09:20.920 refuse to talk about the Hispanic and African-American. I mean, isn't that what this is 0.95

00:09:25.300 really about? It's about American citizens, regardless of your race or ethnicity. You

00:09:30.020 deserve a shot at these jobs and you're not dumber or lazier than people as guys are saying that we

00:09:35.420 actually have plenty of people that could step in and fill those because they're not bringing over

00:09:39.840 the Einsteins. That's obvious, right? Do you think that gets us past this racism charge?

00:09:45.380 No, because they can't admit that they're wrong. That's the problem. And again, this goes back to

00:09:51.300 the first thing I said about the status quo. We force people into a four-year college education

00:09:55.980 because we tell them that's the smart thing to do. So they get a degree in gender studies and make 0.99

00:10:00.200 15 grand a year, never pay back their loan and hope that the government forgives it. Instead of

00:10:05.360 saying, hey, there's these trade schools where you can learn a skill, you can learn to be an engineer,

00:10:09.260 you can learn to work on computers. The system is screwed up. And the problem is, is that our

00:10:15.740 leaders tell us there's only one way to do things. And what I think more than anything we've learned

00:10:20.460 over the last eight years, if not 10, is that there are better ways, more common sense solutions,

00:10:26.600 and we don't have to suck it up. If we're willing to fight back, if we're willing to say this isn't

00:10:31.060 the only way, that there are other avenues to pursue this, that if you're not going to change,

00:10:35.600 we'll get rid of you, then I think that to me is the message. Over and over again, we've learned

00:10:41.920 that we can win. We don't have to accept the status quo. I mean, I think about all these

00:10:46.400 fights, these people saying Pete Hegseth isn't qualified. What are you talking about? The guy's

00:10:51.680 got, what, three bronze stars, degrees from Princeton and Harvard, served in Gitmo, Afghanistan,

00:10:58.780 Iraq. And somehow because he didn't wear a star on his shoulders, he's not qualified. He didn't work

00:11:03.400 in the defense industrial complex. He's not qualified. Tell me how Dennis McDonough, Obama's

00:11:07.860 VA secretary, who's never served in the military, never worked for a veteran service organization,

00:11:12.580 is qualified. We've got to remember that we've been shown a roadmap on how to fight and win.

00:11:18.940 And if we'll follow it, we will be more and more successful. The problem, I think, or the best thing

00:11:23.420 that ever happened to Donald Trump, I hate to say this, is not taking office in 2020. Because for 40 years,

00:11:28.360 we've been able to get the people, the process, and the policies right to think about them.

00:11:32.040 And when he comes back in on January 1st, the American people better have their head on a

00:11:36.580 swivel because it's going to go around like this over and over and over again because he is going

00:11:40.760 to crush the establishment. It's 6733 and it held pretty tight. And 92,000, we tracked these. That's

00:11:50.340 a massive amount of people. And remember, you're restricted. You only vote once. So it's not like

00:11:54.140 somebody sat there. And the intensity of the comments, as far as actionable, because as a comms

00:12:00.280 director and information guy, you're always talking to me about actionable information.

00:12:04.100 What is the actionable information that this represents to Sean Spicer as you see this? What

00:12:08.860 do you think should be done with this?

00:12:11.460 So if I were a tech leader, right, I'd go out and say, guys, the American people aren't with us anymore.

00:12:16.960 Kind of the same way that corporate America lost the American people, right? So I would go back and I

00:12:21.760 would say, all right, we need to do things to help American citizens take these jobs. What can we show

00:12:27.560 that we're willing to man up and do? We're going to establish scholarships. We're going to establish

00:12:31.580 training programs. But they need to have skin in the game. They can't just bypass American citizens,

00:12:35.960 get the cheap labor. As you pointed out through these comments, and even that Chris Hayes clip

00:12:40.320 that you played, this is indentured servitude for these folks. They come over and they're trapped

00:12:44.180 in a job. How is that any different just because they're making a few more bucks? They have no ability

00:12:48.900 to say or do anything. Are you going to speak up at your job if something's going wrong,

00:12:52.480 if you know that your visa is tied to your ability to stay in the country? So what I think these tech

00:12:56.900 companies need to do is show immediately that they're willing to have skin in the game when

00:13:00.980 it comes to putting American people first, whether that's scholarship, training programs,

00:13:05.640 STEM, you know, things, but they've got to do more. They can't just sit back and say,

00:13:09.580 oh, sorry, this is the way it is. And we need this labor. 1.00

00:13:14.940 Sean, where do people get the show? Where do they go to get your social media?

00:13:20.080 SeanSpicer.com is everything. My show airs every night at six o'clock on my YouTube channel.

00:13:24.160 Sean, just go to Sean Spicer, 6 p.m. every night. I appreciate you coming on. And anything

00:13:30.160 on Twitter, on X, it's Sean Spicer. So thank you, Steve, for calling us out.

00:13:36.900 Now, Sean, are we going to have any luck in getting you into these? Are we going to get

00:13:40.960 you into any luck in getting you into the second term, sir? Can we break some news here?

00:13:44.380 I tell you what, if you go, I go.

00:13:51.320 Commander, happy new year, Commander Spicer.

00:13:54.100 Good to see you. Happy new year. Thanks for having me on. You bet.

00:13:57.360 Thank you.

00:14:00.000 Robert Shaw Corral will take us out here on New Year's Eve here in the war room.

00:14:05.200 Very special guest, Baccia Unger Sargon, is going to join us next to talk about the plight

00:14:12.640 of the American working man and woman when the entire system is rigged against them.

00:14:18.120 Short commercial break. Back in the war room in just a moment.

00:14:20.260 For old lang syne, my dear, for old lang syne, we'll take a cup of kindness yet.

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00:16:09.260 Action, action, action.

00:16:10.880 Saying no to the selling out of the future of their children.

00:16:15.740 And it is so dispiriting to see this coming from the so-called right.

00:16:19.540 And I think you nailed it, Rachel.

00:16:21.240 These people do not believe in national borders.

00:16:23.740 They don't know what a nation is.

00:16:25.440 They don't know what it means to feel a sense of obligation,

00:16:28.660 not just to our fellow Americans because they are our fellow Americans,

00:16:31.780 but to people who have less than you.

00:16:33.620 What happened to noblesse oblige?

00:16:35.360 Elon Musk, you are the richest man in the world.

00:16:37.520 You can't have a little bit of respect for the country and the people in it

00:16:42.200 and the working class of the nation that gave you that privilege.

00:16:45.740 You have no respect for the God who gave you that privilege.

00:16:49.340 It is so utterly infuriating.

00:16:51.700 And I'm so grateful to you and to Patriot Steve Bannon, our national hero,

00:16:56.300 for towing the line and holding the line on this and saying,

00:17:00.100 no, no, we will not sit here and cheer as they take good jobs away from Americans

00:17:05.680 and give them to other people.

00:17:07.520 And so what is the answer?

00:17:08.580 I mean, I think about this.

00:17:09.560 If we keep importing foreign labor to meet this demand,

00:17:13.800 if we keep, as you said, driving the wages down,

00:17:16.740 we don't want to get to the root of the problem.

00:17:18.340 If Vivek is right that we need more people,

00:17:22.360 which I'm not entirely convinced that that is the case,

00:17:25.980 we also could set up programs in inner cities to prepare them to code.

00:17:30.500 These are entry-level jobs.

00:17:32.040 Let's not pretend like a lot of these are super, super high-tech.

00:17:35.140 Some of them are entry-level and people can be trained into them.

00:17:38.200 But that would require the oligarchs, the titans of the universe to take less money and invest in this,

00:17:44.260 for our government to invest in those kinds of programs.

00:17:46.980 You're totally right.

00:17:47.860 And think of the irony here, Rachel.

00:17:49.520 They shipped all their good manufacturing jobs overseas and said,

00:17:53.320 we'll teach them to code.

00:17:54.680 Now it turns out, no, actually, we're going to import people to do the coding.

00:17:58.340 Right, exactly.

00:17:59.200 So I want to end on what I think is a positive note,

00:18:02.440 because what I see is left and right coming together in this.

00:18:06.820 Why don't you talk about that a little bit?

00:18:08.120 Because I think it's a really positive thing.

00:18:10.320 Oh, absolutely.

00:18:12.080 I mean, this moment revealed that the divide in this country is not left versus right,

00:18:16.640 and it's certainly not, God forbid, racial.

00:18:18.960 It is the multiracial, multiethnic, working-class coalition coming together

00:18:23.280 and taking on the oligarchs, both the over-credentialed college elites

00:18:26.800 and the oligarchs of Silicon Valley, and saying we're going to stand together.

00:18:30.860 Black, white, Hispanic, Jewish, Asian, working-class Americans

00:18:33.480 are going to stand together for the future of their children.

00:18:36.120 Yeah, I'm really glad that you came, and I have to tell you,

00:18:39.240 I think this debate that's going on is incredibly important,

00:18:43.440 and I'm glad we're having it, and I'm glad, and I'm grateful to Elon Musk

00:18:46.720 that it's happening on Twitter.

00:18:50.620 Rachel Duffy, one of the smartest folks over at Fox,

00:18:54.120 with our guest, the author of Second Class, and boy, did she nail it.

00:18:57.300 We know the audience love the book, Second Class,

00:18:59.600 How the Elites Portrayed America's Working Men and Women, 0.96

00:19:02.920 Bhatia Ungar Sargon.

00:19:04.460 Talk to me for a moment about this left and right coming together,

00:19:08.340 because you're 100% correct.

00:19:09.920 This is about American citizens.

00:19:11.720 In MSNBC last night, couldn't get over this.

00:19:13.880 So, well, we do agree with Bannon on this populism,

00:19:16.340 but we know he's a racist, and we know they're all white nationalists.

00:19:20.480 This is a true coming together of the populist movement

00:19:25.240 of both left and right to defend American citizens, is it not, ma'am?

00:19:29.340 First of all, thank you so much for having me.

00:19:33.000 It is such an honor to be here with you.

00:19:35.340 They literally put you in prison because you were revealing the truth,

00:19:40.620 which is that the divide in this country is not racial.

00:19:44.560 It's between the elites and the multiracial working class, 0.98

00:19:49.060 who all want better jobs for their children,

00:19:53.220 all want a future in this country that reflects them and their values and their hard work.

00:20:00.200 And what the left does, and now the tech pro right as well,

00:20:03.580 is they try to racialize this to hide the fact that this is about citizenship.

00:20:10.460 It is supposed to mean something to be an American citizen.

00:20:16.020 And this is something that working class people of all races intuitively understand.

00:20:21.400 And it is something that the oligarchs on both sides,

00:20:25.260 not only do they not understand it, Mr. Bannon,

00:20:27.860 but they have invested everything in erasing the concept of citizenship,

00:20:32.780 erasing the concept of a nation state and national borders.

00:20:36.680 Why? Because they have gotten very, very, very rich doing that.

00:20:43.100 And that is the whole game here.

00:20:45.240 It was the game when the left was calling working class people of all races racist,

00:20:50.200 because they want a future for their children.

00:20:52.180 And it's the whole game when Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy say that they're too lazy and stupid.

00:20:57.900 Yes, they said that to your faces.

00:21:00.640 It's the whole game.

00:21:02.100 And you have been on this from day one, Mr. Bannon.

00:21:05.800 You are a national hero and a patriot who taught me what the real story in this country is.

00:21:13.640 How can they get – how can they continue to get away with – this is what's confusing to me.

00:21:22.260 And, you know, Elon retweeted somebody that called American workers retarded.

00:21:27.180 Vivek's just basically – you could see the underpinnings of the hatred of the American people right there.

00:21:32.400 But how can they get away with all night, last night on CNN and MSNBC, highly skilled foreign workers,

00:21:38.720 highly skilled foreign workers, Americans not qualified to do these jobs. 1.00

00:21:42.980 When we know from the evidence and the facts, these are principally entry-level jobs.

00:21:48.020 We've asked them.

00:21:48.860 We've asked everybody.

00:21:49.420 The millions that have come in here on these visas show us one example,

00:21:53.420 one example where an American tech worker didn't have the qualifications to do that job.

00:21:58.860 We have yet to get an answer on one of the millions that have come here over the 20 or 30 years of this program.

00:22:04.360 But how can they continue to sell the fact that Americans either not – these are highly qualified foreigners that are coming over

00:22:12.260 or Americans don't want the jobs and the jobs are going open, which both are bald-faced lies, ma'am.

00:22:18.300 They can continue to sell it because there is an elite in this country that is very, very hungry to buy it because it puts money in their pockets.

00:22:31.680 So if you have a college degree, you're in that knowledge industry, and you are the consumer of working-class or middle-class labor,

00:22:40.400 of course you want an open border because it puts money in your pocket.

00:22:44.580 Of course you want to ship manufacturing overseas because then when you buy things, you can buy cheap stuff.

00:22:52.200 And guess what else?

00:22:53.480 When you go to compete in the housing market, suddenly there's a lot less competition

00:22:58.780 because the top 20 percent is controlling over 50 percent of the GDP,

00:23:03.240 which means that you're no longer competing with your cleaning lady or your landscaper when it comes to buying a home.

00:23:09.660 Suddenly it's much easier for you to achieve the American dream while you are consuming the labor of an American who can no longer afford that American dream.

00:23:21.340 We used to believe that this was our God-given right.

00:23:25.840 Our rights in this country are guaranteed by God.

00:23:29.160 And that that is something that means something that binds us together as citizens of this great nation culturally and economically and socially.

00:23:40.800 And of course this is not about race.

00:23:43.020 This is something that binds Americans of all races together.

00:23:46.540 But the oligarchs on the left, the over-credentialed college elites, and now the tech bro rights,

00:23:53.260 these people don't believe in these things because to destroy the concept of the nation

00:23:58.040 is to put millions and billions of dollars back in their pockets.

00:24:03.560 You know, they're always saying that mass immigration raises the GDP.

00:24:07.760 Of course it raises the GDP.

00:24:10.020 It makes oligarchs unbelievably wealthy to have a limitless supply of low-wage indentured servitude.

00:24:20.840 The problem is, is that it makes Americans much poorer.

00:24:25.440 And what you have done, Mr. Bannon, is given voice to the masses who did not have a voice

00:24:32.120 to object when there was a handshake agreement pre-Trump between both parties to further destroy the border,

00:24:40.020 ship jobs overseas, and import a slave caste who are indentured servants or enslaved to cartels 0.99

00:24:46.760 to do low-wage and working-class and middle-class jobs here.

00:24:50.620 It's the whole game.

00:24:51.780 They are getting rich off of the working class. 0.97

00:24:54.720 It is class warfare from the top, from the elites on both sides against the multiracial working-class coalition.

00:25:04.480 Did you find this out?

00:25:05.680 Give me a minute before we go to break on Second Class,

00:25:08.260 because your book, when we had you on here, the audience loved it.

00:25:10.960 But you've been working on this for years.

00:25:12.600 How did you get the idea?

00:25:13.500 Just tell me the idea first.

00:25:14.660 What was Second Class, how the elites betrayed America's working men and women?

00:25:19.240 How did you come up with the whole concept of it?

00:25:21.080 I had started to notice that the real divide in this country was not racial

00:25:26.160 and was not between even left versus right.

00:25:29.420 I was doing a lot of reporting from the South during the first Trump era,

00:25:33.200 and I had gone into that reporting as a woke leftist,

00:25:36.860 and I was expecting that I was gonna find all of this racism.

00:25:41.640 And what did I find the exact opposite?

00:25:44.700 That the demand for instances of racism in this country from the leftist elites

00:25:50.260 was totally, totally superseding the actual supply.

00:25:55.040 And I was really shocked by this.

00:25:57.220 And I started to think about, well, how come I am so shocked by this?

00:26:01.720 Like, how come I was under the illusion that this was still a white supremacist country

00:26:06.620 and that everybody who voted for the other party than I did

00:26:09.440 was a white supremacist or a racist?

00:26:11.300 That was my first book.

00:26:13.420 It's called Bad News, How Woke Media is Undermining Democracy.

00:26:16.400 And it's about how the media, which is extremely woke, perpetuated this myth about racism in America.

00:26:22.980 And having discovered that the real divide was not racial, and it was really the class divide,

00:26:28.000 and the reason the media was so biased against Republicans was because the Republican Party

00:26:32.860 was becoming the working class party.

00:26:34.440 I then started to uncover this class divide, and I wanted to write a book about that.

00:26:38.740 I wanted to allow working class people in their own voices to talk about the struggle for dignity

00:26:44.540 in a country where the Democrats had created an economy that was an upward funnel of wealth

00:26:50.700 from the middle class into the pockets of the elites.

00:26:53.720 And so I traveled around the country for a year.

00:26:55.820 I interviewed working class people of all races who vote for both parties,

00:26:59.640 and I found that there was a lot of consensus and unity among these people.

00:27:04.420 And, of course, what you know and what all of your viewers know,

00:27:06.680 which is that this is the greatest country on Earth, and we have to fight, fight, fight to keep it that way.

00:27:14.040 And the greatest resource of the greatest country on Earth, it's its people

00:27:18.080 in their struggle for dignity, work with dignity.

00:27:22.420 Short commercial break.

00:27:23.580 The Dublin Women's Choir is going to take us out with Auld Lang Syne.

00:27:28.320 We're going to be back in a moment with our guest, Batya Unger-Sargon,

00:27:33.000 here on a New Year's Eve, the last day of 2024.

00:27:37.300 What a year.

00:27:38.500 Short break.

00:27:39.120 Back in a moment.

00:27:39.700 Take a cup of kindness yet for all that's fine.

00:27:51.760 The H-1B visa is the one that folks like Stephen Miller and Stephen Bannon have been pushing for years.

00:28:16.660 That we should restrict, limit, perhaps, and all immigration in the U.S., legal and illegal, right? 0.99

00:28:24.340 Stuff at the border, around asylum, but also H-1B visas.

00:28:28.260 I mean, just listen to the two of them on Bannon's old radio show back in March of 2016.

00:28:32.900 This is before Trump was even the Republican nominee.

00:28:34.740 Take a listen.

00:28:35.120 And they see these oligarchs down there with 54 private jets, and they're not down there for their health.

00:28:42.300 They're called together by Karl Rove, and it's a stop-Trump movement.

00:28:45.500 And it's a stop-Trump movement because they want unlimited H-B-1 visas.

00:28:48.860 Isn't the beating heart of this problem right now the real beating heart of it, of what we've got to get sorted here,

00:28:54.060 is not illegal immigration, as horrific as that is, and it's horrific? 0.56

00:28:57.960 And don't we have a problem?

00:28:58.960 We've looked the other way on this legal immigration that's kind of overwhelmed the country. 0.94

00:29:02.680 The history of America is that an immigration on period is followed by an immigration off period.

00:29:09.960 So be very clear there, right?

00:29:11.680 H-1B visas, legal immigration, and immigration off period.

00:29:15.240 Like, they have a pretty clear vision.

00:29:16.440 Miller's going to be the one writing that border bill.

00:29:20.840 We have a very clear vision.

00:29:23.340 For folks who have just come to this show over the last year or a couple of years,

00:29:28.020 this has been a, I don't know, 10, 12-year project.

00:29:30.860 The years of 15 and 16 were trench warfare.

00:29:37.020 And 14, with Dave Bratt coming on scene, the huge victory he had taking down Cantor,

00:29:41.140 we could walk you through.

00:29:42.680 And Stephen Miller, who had been on Michelle Bachman's staff and then went to Jeff Sessions,

00:29:47.200 and Jeff Sessions kind of held the line in the Senate.

00:29:49.160 But so when people like David Sachs and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy show up, dude,

00:30:01.080 I've taken down bigger guys than that a decade ago, okay?

00:30:05.320 You think the odds are long against these guys?

00:30:09.080 Or the odds are long against Biden?

00:30:11.360 You've just seen the odds against Trump at the beginning.

00:30:14.180 That was an event.

00:30:15.920 I was doing Breitbart News Radio, many of the audience.

00:30:19.180 That was really a call-in show.

00:30:20.500 I mainly took calls.

00:30:21.320 I'd have guests like Stephen Miller or something big came up.

00:30:24.600 Principally, we'd be calling over a SiriusXM.

00:30:29.620 And it was a morning show, 6 to 9.

00:30:32.980 That was a group of Karl Rove, and I used the term oligarchs,

00:30:37.460 and people were like, what are you talking about?

00:30:38.680 And I think it was 54 of them got together on an island off of South Carolina

00:30:44.740 to have an emergency meeting in March of how did they stop Trump.

00:30:51.920 Trump was running the tables, and I think he had just won Super Tuesday,

00:30:56.260 how to stop Trump with these primaries that were left,

00:31:01.820 how to stop Trump and how to put as much money as possible.

00:31:04.200 And one of the big issues was H-1B visas because I said, look, it's immigration overall.

00:31:14.680 What Biden did is so radical was to crush, to try to defeat inflation,

00:31:21.020 to crush the relatively low-skilled or unskilled workers, African-American 1.00

00:31:25.800 and principally Hispanic by allowing, I don't know, 8, 10, 12, 14, 15.

00:31:31.840 You picked a number, millions and millions and millions of people.

00:31:35.320 And now they argue, as Boccia just told you, it added 1% to the GDP

00:31:39.300 because they're taking all their money and buying Doritos. 1.00

00:31:43.160 They'll always come up with another lie.

00:31:46.040 But back then it was the same issue, H-1B visas.

00:31:51.080 And remember, we do have a clear vision.

00:31:53.200 It's total immigration. 0.98

00:31:54.340 Right now, I say we must demand a moratorium on all immigration, 1.00

00:32:01.880 all the students, everything, a moratorium.

00:32:04.320 We just got to settle down and figure this thing out

00:32:07.220 because the system's been gamed for decades and decades and decades.

00:32:13.160 And who pays the price?

00:32:15.160 Who pays the price?

00:32:16.340 The American citizen.

00:32:18.040 Do you not have enough on your shoulders?

00:32:21.260 Is the anxiety not enough?

00:32:22.700 Now, it's yesterday.

00:32:25.700 What have I been saying on here?

00:32:27.360 Credit cards at $1.2 trillion, face amount.

00:32:30.880 The credit card companies just wrote off last quarter,

00:32:33.280 I think $78 billion, if my number's correct,

00:32:36.880 up 14% on write-offs, a credit card non-performing,

00:32:40.720 the highest since.

00:32:41.820 I'm going to throw out a random date, the highest since.

00:32:44.180 Wait for a random date.

00:32:45.380 You're waiting for it.

00:32:46.180 You're ready for it.

00:32:47.160 2008.

00:32:47.780 Does that date ring a bell?

00:32:49.640 Because that's the beginning of the collapse of the elites in this country,

00:32:53.640 the financial collapse that they manufactured and they made a fortune off of.

00:32:59.220 And then because the most progressive, and hey, Bush got us into this.

00:33:03.380 He's the worst president this country's had since Buchanan.

00:33:07.120 Jimmy Carter, God rest his soul, and he'll have his state funeral next week.

00:33:10.800 Jimmy Carter's in the top five.

00:33:12.380 But you got to throw Biden and you got to put Bush right there and back up Buchanan.

00:33:17.260 Okay?

00:33:18.380 2008 crash.

00:33:19.320 But Obama, the most progressive, the most progressive president in history,

00:33:24.220 did the most neoliberal bailout, bailout the elites.

00:33:28.260 The greatest concentration of wealth happened on that.

00:33:30.380 Watch how they bailed it out and how they destroyed the working class and middle class. 1.00

00:33:34.900 And we have never recovered from that.

00:33:36.460 Even Trump's kind of three golden years of really 17, 18, 19, particularly 18 and 19,

00:33:42.380 partially recovered, but not fully, a long way from fully.

00:33:46.560 But at least it was the start.

00:33:49.840 So this fight has gone on because the elites in this country that have control,

00:33:55.500 they always want to go to where they want to crush labor. 0.95

00:33:59.440 Or whether they allow 15 million illegal aliens to come here to compete against African-Americans 0.97

00:34:05.200 and blacks at the lower end of the skill set, or whether the private equity and venture capitalists

00:34:12.500 and hedge fund guys ship the manufacturing jobs over to China so Lao Baixing can work as 1.00

00:34:19.100 slave laborers under the dictatorial regime of the Chinese Communist Party and ship all your 1.00

00:34:23.700 manufacturing jobs over there.

00:34:24.920 So as Bhatia said, you can buy cheaper stuff here, or if they can't outsource it,

00:34:31.340 they'll just bring them here and lie to you, bald face lie.

00:34:34.720 Here's what we at least would like.

00:34:36.880 Enough respect to let's have a debate.

00:34:39.460 Let's have a debate.

00:34:40.860 Be upfront about it.

00:34:42.420 You want lower wages.

00:34:43.580 I got it.

00:34:44.020 You want lower wages because you get higher margins.

00:34:46.200 And remember, most of these kind of what I call these companies are algorithm companies, right?

00:34:51.280 If you get those guys at a third less than that yesterday, U.S. tech workers walked us

00:34:56.760 through the number, and Will Upton walked us through the number.

00:34:59.120 It's about, you're cutting off a third to 40% of labor cost.

00:35:02.860 I get it.

00:35:03.520 I went to Harvard Business School.

00:35:04.960 I worked at Goldman.

00:35:05.600 I can do the math.

00:35:06.420 I got it.

00:35:07.320 That's a big, that's a higher margin.

00:35:09.600 And guess what?

00:35:10.440 That's going to get you a higher multiple in the stock market.

00:35:12.740 And that means, Elon, you're going to be richer.

00:35:14.680 And David Sachs, you're going to be richer.

00:35:16.340 And Vivek, you're going to be richer.

00:35:17.620 Oh, as a side note on all of this, I kind of, I don't need, and I think as a citizen

00:35:26.460 of this country, what we don't need is white guys from South Africa lecturing us, like Peter 1.00

00:35:34.080 Thiel and David Sachs and Elon Musk.

00:35:36.280 We don't need white guys from South Africa lecturing us on how the way things should be. 0.96

00:35:42.240 Let me be blunt about that.

00:35:43.780 I don't think that country's got the greatest track record on earth, okay?

00:35:48.400 We've gone through a number of struggles ourselves, but we worked them through, okay?

00:35:52.420 Not perfect, far from perfect, but I don't need guys from South Africa telling us the

00:35:56.560 way the social order in this country is.

00:35:58.920 And I particularly don't need a South African telling me that the people in the United States, 1.00

00:36:04.240 the workforce is retarded, okay? 0.99

00:36:06.400 Don't need that.

00:36:08.580 Now, the good news is, and you see the fight all the way back to there where they couldn't

00:36:12.560 stop Trump, didn't stop Trump.

00:36:14.200 They tried to pull out every stop.

00:36:15.560 The good news is, you know, they talked a big game, oh, they're going to fight to the

00:36:21.100 ends of the earth.

00:36:22.320 This is so important.

00:36:23.200 Remember, they start off with H-1B visas has made all his companies and the rocket company

00:36:28.420 and all these companies have made them.

00:36:29.880 And I will fight to the, I will show you types of warfare that you can't even comprehend

00:36:34.180 after I F you in the face. 0.82

00:36:38.060 To which I said, yo, Child Protective Services, can you have a wellness check on this toddler?

00:36:45.100 Dude, you have no earthy idea.

00:36:46.940 What they're doing now is spamming like the Twitter feed and, you know, and suppressing

00:36:52.560 our Twitter feed.

00:36:53.280 Dude, we're banned everywhere and the show's bigger than ever.

00:36:55.320 And we just took you on and ripped your face off. 0.95

00:36:57.580 So I don't care what you do on Twitter.

00:36:59.940 It doesn't matter.

00:37:01.520 It does not matter.

00:37:03.020 Bring everything you've got, okay?

00:37:05.540 Because we're not going to lose this fight.

00:37:07.140 You've already surrendered after two.

00:37:08.840 Oh, oh, well, you know, it needs reform.

00:37:11.600 Well, at first you told me it was great and all the tech companies depend upon it.

00:37:14.740 It was the most perfect thing.

00:37:15.960 Then an hour later, it needs reform.

00:37:19.460 And here's what we need to do.

00:37:20.280 We need to pay this higher and this higher.

00:37:21.660 No, that's all a lie and we're not buying it anymore.

00:37:25.140 You can lie and spin other people.

00:37:26.820 You ain't spinning us.

00:37:28.820 Here's what we demand.

00:37:32.400 Doge.

00:37:33.940 Doge, the first thing at the top of your list, we want the complete eradication of this program.

00:37:40.400 All of it.

00:37:41.120 Not some of it.

00:37:42.080 Not reform some of it.

00:37:43.340 All of it.

00:37:44.360 Get rid of it.

00:37:45.820 It's a blight upon the American people.

00:37:47.740 And somebody said, well, Steve, why do you put, you know, we got to be together.

00:37:52.040 No, this is about the direction of our country and this is central to it.

00:37:57.200 Either citizenship means something or it doesn't.

00:38:01.340 And the one way that you get to mean something is to stop bringing the world into people's homes,

00:38:08.440 into people's own nation that they have helped build and generations of their families have

00:38:14.040 helped build and helped defend and fight for and pay taxes for and be the little platoons

00:38:19.960 to build the civic society.

00:38:22.420 And they got nothing to show for it after five or six or seven generations.

00:38:27.060 You just got this anxiety.

00:38:28.980 What happens if I get laid off?

00:38:30.640 And we know they're suppressing wages.

00:38:32.500 They're suppressing wages by taking the jobs to China.

00:38:34.760 They're suppressing wages by outsourcing jobs.

00:38:37.980 The more marketing and telephonic jobs.

00:38:41.340 And what they can't do there, they're going to bring them here. 0.95

00:38:44.300 They're going to get up in your grill.

00:38:45.780 Why do you think Trump won?

00:38:47.520 Why do you think blacks and Hispanics voted for him?

00:38:49.520 Because they look around their cities, they go, hey, I finally got the joke.

00:38:53.200 They're coming for me.

00:38:56.320 Think of how brutal and how nasty the elites in this country are.

00:39:01.800 They would allow and actually organize, because this is all very organized.

00:39:08.920 It's all very organized.

00:39:11.900 10 to 15 million illegal alien evaders that come into this country take jobs from the folks

00:39:17.100 that have the least skills in this country.

00:39:20.240 Think about that for a second.

00:39:22.880 And here, if you've gone to engineering school, you've gone, you try to get, they're going to

00:39:26.800 import on a bald-faced lie, higher-skilled foreign workers, high-skilled foreign workers.

00:39:31.960 The skills are not any different than American citizens.

00:39:36.420 And don't sit there and lie.

00:39:38.000 You can't fill those spots.

00:39:39.940 You go out of your way.

00:39:41.480 You go out of your way to gun deck the entire thing so you can do that, because they're more

00:39:45.420 compliant.

00:39:46.000 The reason they've got to be compliant, in 21st century America, we have indentured servitude. 0.98

00:39:51.560 As much as that was a scar on the country in the 19th century, and we're doing it here, 0.93

00:39:56.600 in front of your eyes, and we have billionaires that are worth a fortune.

00:40:01.620 They're going to sit there and look at you.

00:40:02.820 Oh, you're a liar.

00:40:05.540 Show enough respect for the citizens of this country to just be honest.

00:40:10.260 Let's have a debate.

00:40:11.100 You want lower wages? 0.78

00:40:12.220 I got that.

00:40:13.180 I understand it.

00:40:14.060 It's not going to happen, but I understand it.

00:40:16.940 But do not sit there and play us for fools.

00:40:21.560 Because we've only just started to fight.

00:40:26.200 Okay?

00:40:27.700 Somebody gave me a compliment the other day in some article.

00:40:32.560 They said, this guy's a thug, but he wins at any cost.

00:40:36.960 I don't care what you call me.

00:40:38.560 Okay?

00:40:39.700 But we're not going to lose this fight.

00:40:41.280 We want to complete evisceration and eradication of this entire program.

00:40:46.660 One.

00:40:47.260 Two, we want everybody here on one of these visas deported immediately. 0.99

00:40:52.120 As soon as you deport these 15 years old in the same time frame, home and get a ticket for them. 0.85

00:40:57.500 Boom.

00:40:58.040 Send them home.

00:40:59.560 An immediate hiring of American citizens, regardless of race, ethnicity, religion, gender,

00:41:06.860 to fill those jobs that American citizens should have. 0.54

00:41:10.100 And then, yes, yes.

00:41:13.660 We need to sit down with the companies, the private equity companies, the owners, and have a discussion.

00:41:20.840 Well, hang on for a second.

00:41:22.440 You did this for decades and you stole people's futures.

00:41:25.560 Look how many white men, look how many black men, look how many Hispanic men are not in the workforce.

00:41:32.640 Was it 50 or 60 or 70 million?

00:41:37.220 In the prime years of their lives?

00:41:41.380 Do you understand how this eats away at the soul?

00:41:44.200 You are cruel and you are barbaric.

00:41:49.560 And we are not going to tolerate it.

00:41:53.540 I have not yet begun to fight.

00:41:55.840 Okay?

00:41:56.580 And if you guys want to continue on, we will beat you into submission.

00:42:03.720 Short break.

00:42:04.440 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

00:42:17.360 So, Baccia, and by the way, we're calling for, we know the student program, visa program, there's, all of these are scams.

00:42:23.680 They're all scams.

00:42:25.540 The student visa program's scammed.

00:42:27.100 You got other programs here.

00:42:28.760 There's dozens of, they're trying to game the system against you.

00:42:33.040 Against you.

00:42:35.440 And we're going to deconstruct it all.

00:42:37.400 We want a 1,000% total and complete moratorium on all, quote, unquote, legal.

00:42:42.900 It's not legal immigration.

00:42:44.660 Do you think the H-1B visa is legal?

00:42:47.080 It's not legal.

00:42:47.580 It's a scam.

00:42:49.200 It's a 100% scam.

00:42:51.120 Please, we're begging you guys, show me the excellence.

00:42:54.720 Show me how these people, these skilled foreign workers, the highly skilled foreign workers that you bring over here is essentially slave labor into the country. 1.00

00:43:04.440 And pay them nothing.

00:43:07.080 And they got to be compliant to work 100 hours a week because if they don't say anything, you're going to ship them back.

00:43:12.460 And they got a shot if they keep their head down to get a green card to get through the golden door and then have chain migration.

00:43:17.800 This is how purely evil you are.

00:43:21.140 You are evil.

00:43:22.320 So don't sit there unctuous and lecture us.

00:43:25.180 The South Africans, you're going to lecture us?

00:43:28.540 Did not enough evil come out of South Africa? 0.99

00:43:31.720 Sirs? 0.99

00:43:32.320 Yeah, I went there.

00:43:36.340 Because we're not going to tolerate it.

00:43:37.520 This is the United States of America.

00:43:38.700 We're not going to be lectured by a bunch of white guys from South Africa. 0.93

00:43:41.260 Don't need it.

00:43:44.720 You unctuous.

00:43:46.460 Yesterday, you had a defender on here.

00:43:48.360 She was fantastic. 0.66

00:43:49.360 Allison Wynn, who knows you.

00:43:51.420 Classy, very smart.

00:43:52.660 Stanford knows Elon.

00:43:54.080 Brilliant guy.

00:43:54.660 Smart guy.

00:43:56.320 You know he's going to colonize the Mars.

00:43:58.300 That's a complicated engineering project.

00:44:01.740 And he is quite a brilliant engineer.

00:44:04.760 One might argue he's not Tesla at that level, but he's Edison at another level.

00:44:11.860 Okay?

00:44:12.160 That's a pretty good compliment.

00:44:13.760 We've had, I don't know, one or two of those in the history of this republic.

00:44:17.760 We got one there.

00:44:18.940 But you know what?

00:44:20.480 You know what?

00:44:21.980 If you can work out the mathematical formulas in the engineering complexity of sending a colony of human beings to Mars and keep them alive, you can work through the math on this.

00:44:34.820 And you know it's a bald-faced lie.

00:44:37.540 And here's how I know you know it's a bald-faced lie because you cratered as soon as we got up in your grill.

00:44:42.480 Oh, okay, fine.

00:44:43.660 Well, I won't fight to the death.

00:44:45.260 I'm not going to fight to the death and show all kind of new types of warfare.

00:44:48.440 Why don't we reform it?

00:44:49.340 We need reform.

00:44:50.080 Are you going to have some BS answer?

00:44:51.960 And you think we're going to buy that?

00:44:54.200 Where did you come from, dude?

00:44:55.940 Here's what you need to do.

00:44:57.020 You need to study modern political history of the fights we've been through for 12 or 14 years to get to this spot.

00:45:05.380 You think this is just because people are just wandering around?

00:45:07.800 People have worked for over a decade pounding this, pounding this, pounding this.

00:45:15.500 And that's how relentless the established order is.

00:45:20.060 Because Baccia told you they're making a lot of money and they have control. 1.00

00:45:24.220 And this is about money and power.

00:45:25.220 It's not about race.

00:45:26.140 It's not about gender.

00:45:27.260 It's not about ethnicity.

00:45:28.480 It's not about religion.

00:45:29.280 That's what they want you to believe it is.

00:45:30.820 So you're like a bucket of crabs at each other's throat.

00:45:34.500 It's not about that.

00:45:35.240 It's about money and power.

00:45:39.000 And Karl Rowe is going to get his 54 big donors down there.

00:45:41.960 They're going to figure out how to stop Trump or how to compromise it.

00:45:44.520 And they'll use Ted Cruz or they'll use Little Marco or they'll use Jeb Bush or they don't care who they use.

00:45:52.840 They'll throw up some chop block. 0.98

00:45:54.460 They'll misdirect you.

00:45:55.640 Oh, look at this.

00:45:56.360 Isn't that there's some racism over there?

00:45:58.700 You white folks, go look at that. 0.52

00:46:00.120 That's a Fox specialty.

00:46:03.780 We don't fall for that.

00:46:05.900 So don't think you're going to come back and, oh, you know what?

00:46:08.740 Well, what we need to do is increase it here and cut that cost there.

00:46:11.400 Screw you, you clown.

00:46:15.200 And then you've got to suppress us.

00:46:16.980 Oh, they're, I don't know, blacklisting you, whatever they do.

00:46:19.340 I don't care what they do on Twitter.

00:46:21.040 I could care less.

00:46:22.020 We're banned on every platform in the world.

00:46:24.540 And this show is one of the most powerful in the world.

00:46:27.300 Why is that?

00:46:27.980 Because the content of the show resonates with the most powerful audience in the world.

00:46:34.320 Working men and women that happen to be citizens of this great republic.

00:46:43.360 This is a defining moment.

00:46:44.760 Some of the people say, oh, Steve, you got to, we got to have a group hug.

00:46:47.440 You can't do this and let the Democrats.

00:46:49.600 No, no.

00:46:51.320 We're not having group hugs.

00:46:52.620 We're not having pats on the head.

00:46:54.820 You've got to get this straight.

00:46:56.200 First off, you got to get, hey, I've said many times that Elon came and Elon's money helped organize the grassroots effort.

00:47:07.760 In his engineering mind, he saw what the problem was as we saw it, and he supported it.

00:47:13.060 And for that, he gets a place at the table.

00:47:16.120 There's no doubt you should.

00:47:18.820 It's a quarter of a billion dollars in June, not an entire cycle in five months.

00:47:22.940 But that dinner with Sachs and that check from Elon came at Biden's, you know, when Biden, you know, in the debate or right before the debate and Biden, you know, they kind of saw the numbers of where this thing was heading.

00:47:38.060 They're recent converts.

00:47:39.440 We love converts.

00:47:41.520 Hell, I'm a Catholic.

00:47:43.160 We used to be in the convert business.

00:47:44.680 Not so much anymore.

00:47:45.720 We can't keep what we got.

00:47:46.740 But in the old days, you know, half the saints are missionaries.

00:47:50.660 We love in converts.

00:47:53.740 But the converts sit in the back and study for years and years and years to make sure you understand the faith and you understand the nuances of the faith and understand how you can internalize the faith. 0.99

00:48:05.500 Don't come up and go to the pulpit in your first week here and start lecturing people about the way things are going to be.

00:48:11.380 If you're going to do that, we're going to get and we're going to rip your face off.

00:48:17.960 Because you can't beat us.

00:48:20.080 We're not beatable.

00:48:22.040 This army of the awakens is not beatable because we're relentless and we will never surrender and we will never slow down.

00:48:29.440 And yes, if you go low, we'll go to the center of the earth.

00:48:36.820 Because we're fighting for something that means something.

00:48:39.660 We have meaning in this.

00:48:41.780 This is why people watch the show.

00:48:43.180 This is why people come to this show and all this great content people provide us.

00:48:48.040 And Ben Burkwam's down now putting his life in danger again.

00:48:51.600 Why do people do this?

00:48:52.580 Why have they done this for years?

00:48:54.660 Why did they do it for years at Breitbart?

00:48:56.280 Why did, why did, when Trump started appearing in 13 or 14, we said, that's the guy.

00:49:00.980 Why was it?

00:49:01.720 Because there'd been a struggle before that.

00:49:05.820 We're not, we didn't come in here in June.

00:49:09.320 And we're not saying, oh, just because you came late.

00:49:11.200 No, you can be part of this.

00:49:12.720 But you're not going to sit here and lie to us, to our face, and expect to say, oh, because you're worth $500 billion, you people that are taking money, take money.

00:49:23.840 I don't care.

00:49:24.760 Bow down and kowtow. 0.99

00:49:26.380 I don't care.

00:49:27.740 I could care less.

00:49:29.220 I'm a crazy freaking Irishman.

00:49:31.760 And I will never.

00:49:32.980 I didn't kowtow to Nancy Pelosi.

00:49:34.540 They put me in a federal prison for four months, and I didn't care.

00:49:36.940 I spit in their face when I went in.

00:49:38.480 I spit in their eye when I came out.

00:49:39.900 I literally do not care.

00:49:43.980 And that is the first step in the path to victory.

00:49:51.360 100% moratorium on all immigration until we get this thing sorted and we can go through the lies of this legal immigration for decades and decades and decades.

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Bannon's War Room - December 31, 2024

Episode 4160： Creating The American Oligarch

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