Episode 4170： The Bureaucratic Succession; ＂Seizing The Institutions
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On today's show, we talk about how the new Republican Congress is shaping up, and what it means for the future of the Trump administration. We also talk about the new House Speaker, Mike Johnson, and how he's trying to get the party on board with Trump's agenda.
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be a new Republican Congress, Chris, without a bit of drama and infighting. And yes,
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you're absolutely right. The Trump influence factor is a mixed bag. On one hand, yeah,
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he did get these two holdouts on the phone, Ralph Norman and Keith Self. Norman also,
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by the way, said that Trump reminded him that he supported Nikki Haley as fellow South Carolina
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in the primary. Shows that Trump never really forgets these things. He asked him,
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what do you want to close this deal? Mike has to be elected. He has to be elected. Norman
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told reporters that Trump wasn't really the issue for him, that he knew where Trump stood.
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He wanted assurances from Mike Johnson that he would fight on things that Trump says he wants on
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matters of border security, as well as cutting federal spending and cutting the budget,
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which Trump doesn't really seem to care that much about. Keith Self as well said he was mostly
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frustrated by the way the last Congress went. And it seems like they were ultimately just making a
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point. Now, at the end of the day, Trump did get his wish. He did get these two ultimately on board
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after, you know, Mike Johnson held the vote open for an hour. But also over the last month,
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we've seen the limitations of Trump's power and Trump's influence as well. You mentioned the
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nominees he had, most notably Matt Gaetz for attorney general, who the Senate quietly rejected.
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And Trump just kind of accepted the L and moved on. He threatened to primary Republicans who voted
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for a government funding bill last month without lifting the debt ceiling. And 170 Republicans defied
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him, voted for that bill anyway. The House is going to be what makes or breaks Trump's agenda,
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Chris. The margin right now is 219 to 215. It's going to shrink further to 17 to 215,
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at least temporarily, while some of these Republicans, you know, leave the House to
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join Trump's administration. That means any one Republican, Tom Massey, the hard no on Mike
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Johnson or anybody else, Chip Roy, the hardline conservative, anyone can take down a bill.
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And I spoke to Speaker Mike Johnson just in the last hour or so, asked him what the plan is to move
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Trump's agenda and that so-called big budget reconciliation package. He said early January,
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early January very soon is going to be when they start moving that budget bill. But he still
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wouldn't tell me whether it's going to be one bill or two bills. That is one of several divisions
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that Republicans face. Now, one other thing that Mike Johnson has been telling people,
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reminding people, is that 60 percent of Republicans in this new Congress have never
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had a trifecta. That's going to make it very difficult to teach them how messy governing is and the
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kind of compromises they need to make things work, Chris. All right. By noon, when you start
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talking to reconciliation, you get you had Jason Smith and those guys up there doing the three
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card money because they want to hide what's really in the tax part. Where are we going to be, sir?
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So my preference was and I've been public about this was two bills to do exactly what you just
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said. I want border security. I want energy. Let's reverse all the Biden crap. Let's bank some
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wins. Let's bank some savings and then use that to leverage and set up whatever we need to do on the
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overall mandatory spending cuts. That is, you know, reforming Medicaid and cutting snap and all that.
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In exchange for what we're doing with respect to the tax relief and put that in a package.
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But now it looks like there might be a single bill approach. My standards are still going to be
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the same. There must be deficit neutrality. The border must get done and it shouldn't take
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till May, June, July. Right. Which is what they're risking doing by putting it in one package.
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Yeah. Making very clear that there is a block of us that are going to be watching very closely.
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We need to deliver. When you're talking about tax policy, we need all of that to be not just
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deficit neutral, but reducing deficits and not with made up growth rates, but with very specific
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recognition that whatever we do with tax policy must have strong offsetting cuts.
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Whatever we do with tax policy must have strong offsetting cuts.
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That isn't a rule that Republicans tend to attach to tax cuts for corporations and the
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wealthy. They tend to attach that rule to anything that working Americans get. So if during COVID
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working Americans got a six hundred dollar check, Congress had to twist itself into into knots to
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get that done. But for corporations and the wealthy, guys like Chip Roy have less to say.
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Yeah. Let's not forget that the president in American history who added the most to the national
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debt is Donald Trump. He added more to the national debt in four years than almost every president had
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ever added. Even those who served eight years. I like to say Republicans deeply care, passionately care
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about the national debt when there's a Democrat in the White House. Then when there's a Republican
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in the White House and they have an opportunity to pass through trillions of dollars worth of tax cuts,
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they couldn't care less. But if folks like Chip Roy, who actually think Chip is one of the few who is
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sincere when it comes to this debt issue, if they are going to really succeed in passing their agenda
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to dramatically bring down the size of the debt while at the same time passing trillions of dollars
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worth of tax cuts, there is only a few sources they can go in order to achieve that. It would be
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trillion dollar cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Why? Because that is the vast majority
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It is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going
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to medieval on these people. You're just not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people.
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The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do
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everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish
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that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Saturday for January in the year of our Lord 2025. The Congress, the House, the Republicans
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are out of Fort McNair. I believe right now we're going to go into this. You saw it from last night.
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And what happened in the interim is that a segment of the Freedom Caucus, 11 members led by the Andy
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Biggs's and the Chip Roy's and the Eli Cranes and virtually everybody that comes on the show,
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friends of the show, and what I think Congressman Brendan Boyle right there in Pennsylvania said
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are the people that are sincere about trying to cut the debt and cut the deficit.
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Sent a letter putting Speaker Johnson on notice, and this is the important thing. They didn't do it
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before the vote. They want to have the vote. They want to have President Trump's back.
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But to be very specific, hey, President Trump, you're telling us this is your speaker.
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He's your guy. Then afterwards, they sent a letter, which I'll get into a little bit later
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and put it up on the screen a little bit later, outlining what has to happen or they're going
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to come in and vote no and either shut the stuff down the Rules Committee or force Johnson
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going to have to use Democrats to pass these bills. Concepts you should start to get into
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your vernacular. Deficit neutrality, actually being beyond deficit neutrality on tax cuts
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would have to be to actually take down, do actual taking down the deficit, not just neutrality,
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but making it smaller. On and on and on. Very specific on spending cuts. Very specific
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on how you handle the deficit. Very specific about actions. We'll get into that. A lot going
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on. The key concept, as we told you yesterday, was rules and a couple of big changes on the
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rules yesterday and also reconciliation. Out of Fort McNair, they're going to come up with
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the strategy. Either two bills or one. We're a very strong two-bill proponent to actually fire
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off the football with a very positive action on immigration, on the border, on making sure there's
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enough funding for the border, border security, and mass deportations. Getting mass deportations
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done and having something codified that augments the executive orders, President Trump, the shock
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and awe that President Trump is going to go back to the original. We need not just a win. The country
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needs to get on with the process of the removal of the illegal alien invaders. Now, I have
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recommended they should have a summit or a mini-summit meeting ASAP with the frontline nations in Central
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America to make sure that there's some sort of organized plan and agreement. And if there's
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not an agreement and there's some recalcitrant actors, then you start using tariffs and kind
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of economic measures to make sure that people understand there's not going to be, there's not
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a free shot on goal here. You're going to have to cooperate. You're going to be forced to cooperate.
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These are your folks. And they're going to return to their homeland. So a lot going on at Fort McNair
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today. A lot going on as we're a couple of, what, two weeks away, a little over two weeks away from
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President Trump taking the oath of office. Also, complete meltdown in South Korea. The situation in
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Las Vegas gets weirder and weirder. We have Jake Sullivan in India this weekend to talk to the
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Indian government about the dams, the Chinese Communist Party building in Tibet. Jake Sullivan
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should understand you guys got blown out. You lost. We don't need you anywhere else in the world.
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It's very intrusive. We're going to try to get Colonel Mills, Jack Pasovic, to join us on a whole raft of
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things that are going on there, particularly about these Chinese drones. I want to start, though,
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with, okay, let's go back to our theory of the case. President Trump has these three big lines of
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work. Stop the kinetic part of the Third World War to begin the mass deportations and also handle,
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we believe, go to zero, a total moratorium on all immigration. We've got to get this sorted.
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It's going to take time. Just go to full stop right now. Other things related to, like, the two
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reconciliation bills get very focused on the border, border security, deportations. The third,
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the finances. That's what this letter and what they're at Fort Muneer about. The economy, tax cuts,
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rejuvenating the economy, getting some growth again, but also this debt. We have been a very
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strong component of seize the institutions, and part of that is to show that you're in charge of
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the driver of action, and this gets back to the confirmations. We believe the confirmations should
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start Tuesday, and particularly for people like Cash Patel and Pam Bondi, kind of the legal deep state
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apparatus. Chris Ray has to be fired immediately. Cash Patel, we don't need continuity of Cash
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Patel because they're going to try to drag Cash's confirmation out till July or August, trust me.
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We got to get on with those ASAP. We got to get on with the Treasury Department, ASAP,
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Department of Defense, ASAP, all of it. Action, action, action. We should be the driver of that.
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But the Biden regime is doing everything possible and every different, playing around with the
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balance sheet and sending us a letter that we've hit the debt ceiling and you need extraordinary
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measures to all of it. But last night, you know, and you know when they've got something you want
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to bury when they put it out after five o'clock on Friday. Ezra Cohen joins me now. Ezra was a senior
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intelligence official with President Trump in his first term, and hopefully with, if prayers to
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heaven are answered, will be part of the second term. Ezra, please explain to me all these order
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of succession orders that came out, and if Denver can put them up on the screen. I'm confused about
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what these are, why they came out in the middle of the night. Is this the Biden administration
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screwing with President Trump on actually President Trump's government?
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Well, thanks, Steve, for having me on again. Look, last night they pushed out 11 changes to
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orders of succession, and that is at 12.01 on January 20th, all of the Biden political appointees
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are going to be out the door. And these orders of succession, if they are kept in place, are going
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to set who basically takes over that very instant that President Trump puts his hand on the Bible.
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Until our appointees are sworn in. If you look at some of the agencies that they changed up the
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order of succession, you've got USAID going all the way back to 2008, but then you've got Treasury on
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there. 2016 was the previous one, Justice 2017, DHS 2016. So they're really trying to restructure
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who is going to be in charge the second that President Trump takes the oath of office.
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You know, look, you and I both know from the first term, it's orders of succession like these is
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how we got stuck with people like Sally Yates, who refused to defend the counterterrorism immigration
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ban. So, you know, this stuff really matters. And we've got to we've got to be on top of it,
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because this is how they're going to blunt us as we hit the beach on January 20th.
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I want to go back over this. I'm gonna hold you through the break.
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An order of succession. You have political appointees and you have two types of political
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appointees of the 4000 total. You have 3000. They can hit the beach immediately. Just needs a security
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clearance. No confirmation of the Senate. 1000 roughly are Senate confirmed. All the political
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appointees, regardless of confirmed or not confirmed, are essentially terminated at high
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noon on the 20th. When the president takes the oath, it's now he's relieved the watch in a naval term.
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He's relieved the watch. You get rid of all their political appointees. This order of succession
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is the Biden regime then coming out and saying these are permanent government employees. These are
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not political appointees. They're a part of the administrative and or deep state. And whatever the
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department is, whether it's the Treasury Department, whether it's USAID State Defense, this is the order
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of succession in which they they go. I want to I'm going to hold you because I want to give you enough
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runway to explain why do we need an order of succession? Why do we need this entire thing? What is
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this up to? Why did they put 11 out in essentially the middle of the night, two weeks, roughly two
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weeks from President Trump? President Trump comes and takes the oath of office. Do not the illegitimate
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Biden regime has been illegitimate from when they stole the 2020 election full stop. And now majority
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of the American people know and understand this, this whole scandal that's come up about how long
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they knew he was infirmed and hit it. OK, it's all part of the same thing. And now they're essentially
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refusing to go. Jake Sullivan is in India. Why is Jake Sullivan in India talking to anybody?
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Jake Sullivan should be talking to the movers. This is who he should be talking about. Short break.
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With the situation that's going on in Las Vegas and the quite startling revelations that are coming
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out there, Posobo's going to join us in a second, it goes in also tying it back to the fact they
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haven't been straightforward or come out with any real information on these drones in New Jersey.
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They have not, everything they've done, there's totally misleading information, confusing information
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coming out of the situation in New Orleans and Houston. This illegitimate regime from the beginning
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or to understand what it's trying to do except to try to destroy this republic.
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It's an illegitimate regime from the beginning.
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And now, both, I don't know what Jake Sullivan is doing in India. You got blown out in the
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election, put your pencils down and focus on getting out, cleaning up your office, getting
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a new residence or doing whatever you got to do, but you're leaving. You should not be engaging
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our allies in any types of discussions. I don't know why you're in India. The dams that are being
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built in Tibet will be a fault of President Trump and his team to deal with as they're dealing with
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the kinetic war that you basically instigated in Ukraine that's lost 1.7 million people, killed or
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wounded. The situation in the Middle East, the horrible situation on our border, all the messes
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President Trump is going to have to clean up, and it's a nightmare. But he will figure it out.
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But there's something, so they're not to be trusted because their actions over the last
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four years, including how they stole the 2020 election, you can't trust them.
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So Ezra Cohen, and you're the pro's pro, I was stunned when I saw this last night,
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the orders of succession. I remember what, hang on for a second, what are they doing here?
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Why are they putting out these executive orders? Why is this need clarity? And I understand
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President Trump with a stroke of a pen can get rid of it, but it's one, it's a little more
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complicated than that. And number two, they're sending a signal to the apparatus. They are
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sending a signal to the administrative state and to the deep state. And they understand
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that one of our top priorities is the deconstruction of the administrative state
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and the eradication once and for all of the deep state that has done so much damage to our beloved
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republic. So Ezra, once again, what is an order of succession? Why would it even come out? Who are
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these people? Why is it going to a certain order? How did they pick this? And who's in back of it, sir?
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Sure. Yeah. So first of all, Steve, I mean, each of these agencies, I think it's just to be very
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clear, all of them except for one already had standing orders of succession, some of them going
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back to 2008. So you really got to wonder why, like you said, on Friday in January, less than 20 days
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before the inauguration, they had to make a big move to change these. Again, there is going to be a lag
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between the time that President Trump takes the oath of office and when we get our people in the
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door at these key agencies. It's not going to be instantaneous, just to be realistic.
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We can look at the first term. There's going to be delays in the Senate.
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There's going to be, they're going to try to delay with people's security clearances.
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And there's a whole other litany of ways that they're going to try to frustrate us
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in those first few weeks. I mean, I think if you recall, Steve, just to go back to 2017,
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day three, I think, of the administration, when we went over to CIA, where President Trump gave that
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monumental speech. If you recall, when we were heading over there, we didn't actually know
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who was in charge of CIA until we showed up. And that who's in charge in that kind of intervening
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transition period is set by the orders of succession. So these are extremely important
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documents. We've got to go through and analyze these ones that came out last night and really
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try to figure out who are they trying to push us to, to be in charge of these agencies. I think that
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that's going to be very revealing. You're absolutely correct. So this is that interim period in case
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anything, anything happens. My understanding, I don't think maybe some of the landing teams,
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but I don't think there's been a broad discussion with the Trump team about this. That would be
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unusual, right? There doesn't seem to be any real, and look, I know the people working on it may
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disagree, but from a general 60,000 foot, I'm not feeling a ton of cooperation. Although Biden says
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he's doing a ton of cooperation between the Biden, illegitimate Biden regime and President Trump's
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new team. And that's why I think dumping this on a Friday night, I would have hoped they would have
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run this by President Trump and actually had a briefing with President Trump's inner circle
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about this. Do you have any idea whether that happened or not?
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Well, I don't. But again, these orders go back, some of them go back to 2017, 2008, right? So
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the fact that they're changing them now is highly alerting. Also, some of the ones that are on the
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list, I mean, these are important agencies, but they're not the most important. For instance,
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USAGM. Why are they changing the order of succession at USAGM? I mean, to me, that's obviously where
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Carrie Lake's going in. So it seems to me maybe they're trying to prep the environment to make it
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even more difficult for her. So again, what they're trying to do is put their they're trying
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to put their own their own careerist there to make it. Remember, she goes to VOA, which is a
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subset of that. This is that is actually a Senate confirmed position. They're going to try to drag
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out Carrie Lake getting into VOA forever. They've the last thing they want is President Trump's people.
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Michael Pack, my friend who was put up to head up USGM, was three years. He didn't get confirmed
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until three years into the process. And it was Mitch McConnell, but it was also the apparatus that
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they tried to bleed out Michael Pack. These people cannot be trusted on anything. So when you see
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something like this, you understand that this is all they're trying to, you know, go on record and
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say, oh, we told you about that. We did this. But this is all to try to stop President Trump's people
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from coming in and actually taking control of my mantra. Seize the institutions. This is the
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this is the illegitimate regime, the administrative state in the deep state fighting back. Is it not,
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sir? Yeah, absolutely. And look, a lot of people are out there saying, you know, Trump can just come
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in and get rid of these EOs. But, you know, Steve, you and I both know in reality, it's a little bit
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more complicated than that. Right. I mean, there will be a delay for each of the to change each of
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these because it's got to go to DOJ for review and you're going to have people there that are going
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to throw up objections. I mean, you and I have been through this before. And I think the other
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example I'll use, which is just a key and key example of this from the first term is we had
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holdovers at the NSC who ended up stealing President Trump's the first two years of this term.
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The president should have been able to send those people back to their home agencies with a stroke of
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a pen. But you and I both know, despite the fact that he ordered to do that, it took two years for
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that to happen. So, again, don't underestimate. And I think this is what you were saying earlier
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this week. Do not underestimate the measures that the permanent bureaucratic state, the permanent
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national security state and frankly, the outgoing Biden administration are going to use to try to
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Yeah, we're talking about the detaillees. Remember the NSC at the time, like 75 percent of the people
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were detaillees from the interagency and from different agencies. They were all embeds of Obama
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and Bush. It's totally 100 percent anti-America first. Rich Higgins, the brave Rich Higgins,
00:24:22.420
actually did a memo, detailed memo. McMaster's got it and used that to run Higgins out of the
00:24:28.480
White House. President Trump actually told McMaster's in front of me, I want to execute
00:24:34.220
on Higgins' thing. I want to get rid of all these people. And McMaster's didn't do it. He just was
00:24:39.260
just he did not carry out an order from the commander in chief flat out, just dragged his feet. And if you
00:24:44.460
go back and look at the list that Higgins gave, it's the top crew of the impeachment that took place
00:24:49.260
around Ukraine, right? Higgins knew immediately who the bad actors were and get them out of there.
00:24:54.100
But the apparatus will always fight back. They will. If the president makes a decision,
00:25:01.260
don't think it's immediately executed upon. This is why you have to force your will through the
00:25:05.000
entire apparatus. Also, what Ezra's telling you is more inside baseball. It's quite important for
00:25:09.740
this audience to understand. When you come up with an executive order to make sure it's constitutional,
00:25:14.820
the Justice Department has an internal law firm, the Office of Legal Counsel. It's basically the law
00:25:20.720
firm internal to the Justice Department. That is, on all executive orders, you have to go through
00:25:26.820
OLC and they write essentially an opinion. Like if you were doing a deal and needed a fairness opinion
00:25:32.160
from a white shoe law firm, they would write a fairness opinion about your deal after doing due
00:25:38.300
diligence. These guys write opinions. When we did the, as you remember, Ezra, you were very involved
00:25:43.040
with it. We did the travel ban, right? The very first one included the Muslim nations, included
00:25:48.920
Iraq. You know, Madison, these guys went nuts. But we had had, the OLC had given us an opinion.
00:25:56.680
We knew it was constitutional because their purpose is to come back and say, hey, this is not
00:26:00.740
constitutional. We have to change these things. They gave us a clean bill of health on that.
00:26:04.840
It took a while. It takes a while to do this. We had worked on that for a couple of months. I think
00:26:08.940
we dropped it in the first 10 days or the first weekend of the administration, but we had an OLC
00:26:13.780
opinion. It does take time and it takes work. This is why President Trump was so confident. He goes,
00:26:18.540
hey, I don't mind going to the Supreme Court on this thing. And guess what? Happened much later.
00:26:23.080
The Supreme Court with upheld President Trump's travel ban because why? We had gone to OLC and
00:26:29.140
gotten an opinion. Your point is, just don't think Trump can sign an executive order the first day.
00:26:33.920
You got to get OLC. And this is why I'm advising the Trump transition right now. He's got to get on top
00:26:39.440
of this because these guys couldn't be more in your face, Ezra, that they intend to contest every
00:26:45.920
inch of ground on this deconstruction of the administrative state and the destruction of the
00:26:52.780
deep state. They're going to contest every inch. Ezra, if you can hang on for a second. I'm going to go to
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Okay, while you're here in the war room, while the Republican conferences at Fort McNair are working
00:28:23.300
out the critical path of how this is going to go, Biden has at the White House today is going to give
00:28:32.220
the Presidential Medal of Freedom. It's the highest civilian award. The highest award your nation can
00:28:39.000
bestow on somebody is being given to George Soros today. Not making that up, just announced.
00:28:46.200
That's how proud of it they were. They didn't like announce it three weeks ago or three months ago
00:28:50.720
today. George Soros at the White House, that evil demonic creature is going to get your nation's
00:28:58.440
highest award. Hillary Clinton is also. He gave the second highest award to Benny Thompson who had asked
00:29:04.520
for a preemptive blanket pardon for January 6th. And of course, he gave one to Liz Cheney, the second
00:29:10.360
highest award. This just goes to show the illegitimacy of this regime. To give George Soros, who's not
00:29:19.100
even an American, right? Oh, Steve, he's got American citizens. I don't care if he's got American
00:29:23.280
citizenship. He can have the papers. It's like Murdoch. They don't make them Americans. Trust me.
00:29:27.680
This guy is as evil as they got. He's spread evil all over the world. He's trying to take this
00:29:32.840
country down, try to destroy it. He's getting the highest civilian award today by Biden.
00:29:40.880
Ezra Cohen, you've got some other breaking news. You informed me, Ezra's on top of everything. You
00:29:45.680
informed me that it's just not Jake Sullivan. Jake Sullivan is in India, which may be our most
00:29:51.620
important strategic partner in front of maybe even Australia and Japan. Of course, South Korea is
00:29:59.580
having a coup right now. Chinese Communist Party inspired. That's imploding. He's in India talking
00:30:04.480
about the dams of the Chinese Communist Party building at Tibet. But you've got even worse news,
00:30:08.700
sir. What do you got about where they are this weekend? Well, Steve, it's not just Jake that's
00:30:14.880
headed off to India. We've also got Lloyd Austin, who's headed off to Germany this week for, I guess,
00:30:21.520
his final meeting of the Ukrainian contact group. So they're really going up towards the end,
00:30:26.600
trying to push all of these international initiatives. And really, again, this is all about
00:30:33.740
setting the table for President Trump in the way that they want. And I think that's the best way to
00:30:40.640
think about it. They are trying to set this up, to set the board, to try to constrain him
00:30:45.140
for the first few months of his administration. And look, I just want to tie back these two foreign
00:30:50.920
trips to what we were talking about before. The people that are developing the policy positions
00:30:57.220
for Lloyd Austin's trip, for Jake Sullivan's trip at the NSC, those people, unless President Trump and his
00:31:05.760
team take action, are going to be in place after 1201. They are not going to change.
00:31:12.400
And so that means, and look, it's not personal. But these civil servants have spent four years
00:31:17.500
working with the Biden team, pushing a very specific initiative. They've probably become very
00:31:22.320
personally tied to that. We got to change up the way that they're setting the table so that we don't
00:31:29.160
get constrained. And we aren't forced into acting the way that they want President Trump to act.
00:31:38.160
Ezra, you're too much of a professional and too much of a gentleman, because I know you very well
00:31:42.060
to say. They're also over there saying, hey, the Trump guys are just blown through town.
00:31:48.100
You're going to have your contacts. They're still going to be there. The policies,
00:31:51.800
no matter what Trump says, no matter what Trump and his people try to do, just like the native
00:31:56.800
situation in 17, right? The serious situation in 17. I mean, you were there with us every day. You saw
00:32:02.580
exactly how they did it. It's not going to change. This is like a fever that's going to go away. And
00:32:10.020
in our contacts, the administrative and deep state contacts with the Ukrainian working group,
00:32:15.780
the Ukrainian contact group with the Indian special security, that'll be actually, we'll
00:32:22.540
weld those together. Don't worry about what's going to happen. Just nod with what the Trump guy is going
00:32:27.760
to say. This is how the administrative state works. This is why you have to deconstruct it. This is why
00:32:32.460
you must destroy the deep state. This is why we have to get the confirmations. We have to get them
00:32:38.080
now and not wait. They're going to slow walk you and tap you along. This is why it has to be action,
00:32:43.520
action, action, urgency, urgency, urgency. You have to press it. You have to wait for it. Seize the
00:32:48.780
institutions. If you don't seize the institutions, they're going to seize the initiative. And once those
00:32:54.780
big apparatuses, just the way they work, once they get on offense or seize it, they've blunted you,
00:33:00.660
it is virtually impossible for just a handful of individuals to turn it around. Because they have
00:33:06.520
the sacred interagency process of which they can blunt anything just by doing that, which is the
00:33:15.300
approval of all the different agencies. They've built, look, they control the greatest, most powerful
00:33:21.100
nation, the history of the earth. Not today, not modern times, the history of the earth. And they ain't
00:33:26.060
just going to give it up. You don't think so? Look at the 11 succession orders they put out last
00:33:31.540
night, Friday night, in the middle of the night. Look at that. Look at where Lloyd Austin is today.
00:33:35.560
Look at Jake Sullivan is today. Look at what Biden's doing with George Soros, getting the highest
00:33:40.720
civilian medal of your nation. The highest civilian medal. The equivalent on the civilian side of the
00:33:47.480
Congressional Medal of Honor. The equivalent on the civilian side of the Congressional Medal of Honor.
00:33:53.280
George Soros in the White House today. Hillary Clinton, that's bad enough, but that is so secondary
00:33:59.420
to this evil, demonic, satanic figure. So they're showing you right now, folks, if you need it, and
00:34:06.480
you know, people abandon, you're always hairs on fire. Hey, they ain't giving it up. They don't care about
00:34:11.580
Donald Trump coming in here on the 20th. They don't care who he brings. They don't care. They say,
00:34:16.380
hey, he's going to stay here for four years. And by the way, if some of J.D. Vance or somebody
00:34:19.740
succeeds him in the afternoon 28, they don't care about that either. They're going to do what
00:34:24.440
they're going to do until you stop it. Until it's stopped, it's going to continue. It is outrageous
00:34:31.620
that General Austin is talking to the Ukraine guys today in Germany. It's outrageous that Jake
00:34:37.060
Sullivan's there. It shows you they ain't leaving. They may, the individual characters may go off the
00:34:43.300
stage, but essentially they're not leaving. Ezra, where do we go to get your social media,
00:34:48.960
sir, and people can follow you even more now more than ever? Yeah, it's Ezra A. Cohen on X. And Steve,
00:34:56.760
just one last thing I want to put a point on that. They're going to come out and say that President
00:35:00.920
Trump trying to change this up is going against the norm. But I think it's really important for
00:35:06.160
everybody to know. Biden, when he came in on January 2021, he effectively threw out the entire
00:35:14.800
NSC, including the civil servants that were there and restarted. So it can be done and it's not at all
00:35:21.200
outside the norm. No. And look, hey, they represent the deep state, the apparatus. They know how to roll.
00:35:29.620
They bottom blew it immediately. What we tried to do and should have done if we were more forceful.
00:35:37.440
I'll take responsibility for that. We should have been more forceful in 17. Remember, on the very
00:35:43.060
first weekend, Ezra, don't ever let it be forgotten. The first phone calls we had with foreign leaders,
00:35:49.120
with the president of Mexico and the president of Australia, the prime minister of Australia,
00:35:52.800
were leaked, were the next day in the Washington Post. This is how much they concern, this is how much
00:35:58.460
the apparatus in the deep state, the administrative state, is concerned about national security.
00:36:03.740
Here's what they're concerned for the good of this nation. They took highly, highly secured,
00:36:10.100
highly confidential, at the highest security clearance level, and they leaked the entire
00:36:14.920
transcripts. They leaked the entire transcripts to the Washington Post on the call in Mexico to the
00:36:21.160
Mexican president and to the prime minister of Australia, which highly classified material is being
00:36:26.020
discussed. This is how they roll. They play smash mouth, and now we have to play smash mouth.
00:36:32.080
Ezra, you're a patriot and a hero, sir. Appreciate you coming on.
00:36:38.660
Ezra, taking Saturday away from the family. Another guy, Jack Posobiec. Ezra and Jack have young
00:36:44.060
children. Jack, I appreciate you coming on, brother. And Tanya Tay, letting you have a couple minutes.
00:36:51.660
First, I got to ask you about this. The succession order, the administrative state, Austin in Germany,
00:36:58.060
Blinken in, or not Blinken, Jake Sullivan, even worse, I guess not worse, as bad in India,
00:37:03.980
talking about Tibet. What is your sense about, and your old nemesis, George Soros. George Soros in
00:37:10.500
the frickin' White House today, getting the civilian equivalent of the Congressional Medal of Honor.
00:37:17.020
Your thoughts, Jack Posobiec. Look, Steve, I think it's a clarifying situation, and I actually applaud it.
00:37:26.080
I applaud the fact that Joe Biden is finally admitting who's been in charge this entire time,
00:37:32.820
and the real head of the entire administration that we've been under, not just since the event of 2020.
00:37:41.620
And by the way, we know that Monday, an auspicious anniversary, the anniversary of January 6th,
00:37:48.020
will come up, and I believe that this Monday's will go properly, that from 2021 all the way through
00:37:56.840
now, and then as well from 2008 to 2016, the people who have been in charge of the United States
00:38:02.960
administration have been these crooked members of the globalist elite. And yes, we are talking about
00:38:09.680
the Clintons. Yes, we're talking about the Obamas. And yes, we're talking about the crooked Soros
00:38:14.080
family and everyone that they are involved with. They're the people who have been in charge.
00:38:19.500
They're the people who have been calling the shots when Joe Biden was catatonic and everybody's
00:38:22.900
running around saying, who's really in charge? Is it Jill? Is it Sullivan? Is it Blinken? No,
00:38:27.940
it hasn't been any of those people. Look at Jake Sullivan. That guy couldn't find his way out of a paper
00:38:32.860
bag. These are your actual leaders. And what do they call it? The rules-based international order.
00:38:39.960
Yeah, they're the ones who are coming to the White House. So I appreciate that now at this final
00:38:45.200
moment, I hope Zelensky comes too, by the way, that now at this final moment, that they are finally
00:38:50.700
admitting who's really been in charge the entire time.
00:38:53.840
Dr. Bradley Thayer, working in the engine room today, informs me to tell you, Jack,
00:39:00.800
that Blinken's off to Japan, France, and South Korea. Your thoughts. They're fully deploying the
00:39:07.140
entire thing. Look, folks, this is up in Trump's grill. They're going around at the end, and they're
00:39:13.160
telling people, don't worry about Trump. Don't worry about the crazies. Don't worry about Pete
00:39:18.260
Hegseth or Ratcliffe. Don't worry about Kash Patel. We've got this. We're just taking a step
00:39:25.220
back for a second. What are your thoughts about Blinken? Now they've got the whole thing covered.
00:39:29.020
Blinken to Japan, France, and South Korea. You've got Jake Sullivan in India. Austin over in Germany
00:39:38.780
Look, Steve, Steve, I'm going to issue a warning right now for the entire war room posse,
00:39:44.300
that if you think that just because we're going to get the votes on January 6th and President Trump's
00:39:50.320
going to stand there on Jan 20 and he's going to recite the oath of office and he's going to be
00:39:54.460
brought back in, if you think that they are not setting traps, if they are not setting plans,
00:40:00.320
if they are not putting their operatives in place, who is the next Vindman? Who is the next Eric
00:40:05.580
Charamella? Who is the next CIA spook that's going to come out and try to launch another impeachment
00:40:11.440
operation? You've already got people out there running around accusing President Trump of
00:40:16.120
committing war crimes back in 2019 and citing U.N. reports and putting this all out. So hold on,
00:40:21.520
hold on a second. What are they doing, Steve? It's very clear. They're going around to shore up
00:40:26.140
their allies of what I just said, international rules-based order, and then they are setting
00:40:31.660
impediments, traps, obstacles, challenges in place for President Trump and for the administration,
00:40:38.140
ultimately the agenda of the American people. They do not want this agenda passed and they're going
00:40:44.740
to do everything they can both here internally, domestically, but also internationally. So of
00:40:52.160
course, who are they going around to? The Five Eyes partners, the same way that we saw Five Eyes go
00:40:57.180
after Trump in 2016 and 2017, and now they're going around to all the outside allies. Well, Japan, South
00:41:04.240
Korea, et cetera, et cetera. They're going to say, hey, we know that it looks like there's new
00:41:08.780
management coming back in, but you know who's really in charge. And don't you wait four more
00:41:13.340
years, we're going to be right back in. That's what's going on. They're trying to set up Trump.
00:41:20.700
Jack, hang on for one second. I want to get to Vegas and some other things are happening,
00:41:26.520
but I do want to pick your brain one more time on this George Soros. George Soros is going to be at
00:41:32.780
the White House to be awarded the highest civilian award of your nation today. And Jack's saying,
00:41:41.820
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Modern Monetary Theory is out today. It's free. You need to have it. But right now on Fox,
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Chad Pergram, one of the great reporters over there, is always online putting up great stuff. On Fox,
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House Freedom Caucus Chair Harris says Trump's push for one big reconciliation bill for many of his
00:42:28.080
legislative priorities, quote, can't be the first order of business, unquote. Harris says it took months
00:42:33.480
on 2017 tax cut. If that's what President Trump wants, he's going to have to wait until the summer
00:42:39.760
for it to get all ironed out. Says he supports breaking up. That's the warden's position. You've
00:42:44.960
got to do two. Whoever's telling President Trump won is actually going to grind this second term down
00:42:51.440
to a halt. You've got to get the first one done first. You've got to get border energy done. Maybe
00:42:55.880
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00:43:01.460
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how we have to thwart it because, quite frankly, they're still running our finances off of this.
00:43:20.980
Posobiec, once again, just let's hear rewind. Today, without any announcement, just at the last
00:43:28.100
second, George Soros is going to go to the White House and be awarded the civilian equivalent of the
00:43:34.520
Congressional Medal of Honor. Your thoughts, sir?
00:43:39.700
Steve, this is an important clarifying moment for our republic. It is a clarifying moment for the
00:43:47.280
war room posse. It is also, by the way, a verification for the war room posse. We have been
00:43:54.740
right the entire time. When we said that it seemed like our government is being sold out to foreign
00:44:01.340
interests, when it seemed like the empire's interests benefit the elites when they don't benefit the people
00:44:08.000
at home, when the imperial special interests seem to benefit the elites of Brussels or Wall Street or the
00:44:15.780
U.S. Chamber of Commerce or all of these various, you know, tech programs, etc., etc., not to mention the wars
00:44:22.700
that have been fought on the periphery of the empire to expand the international rules-based order. We were told,
00:44:31.200
no, we're crazy. We're conspiracy theorists. We got tinfoil on. And then all of a sudden, here we are in the
00:44:36.520
waning days of the last imperial presidency. We get this notification, really just a report. There's no announcement.
00:44:44.120
There's been no official. Karine Jean-Pierre isn't going up and giving some big statement about this.
00:44:48.120
We get this announcement that there is an award that is going to the people that have been calling
00:44:52.880
the shots the entire time. And so I hope that the war room posse takes a look at this. They're spitting
00:44:59.180
in your face on the way out, the way that they spit on the flag, the way they spit on the graves of the
00:45:06.260
honored dead at Abbey Gate, all the others. But you, they're laughing at you and they're telling
00:45:12.940
you the same way that they're sending all their operatives all around the world to India, to South
00:45:18.000
Korea, to Japan, France, Europe, all the European vassals, that you're going to stay in the vassal
00:45:22.020
status. Trump's only going to be here four years. And this is an aberration. We're going to turn the
00:45:26.620
tide all the way back. That's what's going on. They're telling you we'll be back.
00:45:31.760
Vassal status, protector status. They come out with the orders of succession last night. They
00:45:38.280
give the award to, uh, they give the award to Soros and Clinton, Hillary Clinton today in the
00:45:43.580
White House. They've got, they've got Blinken in Asia. They've got Jake Sullivan in India. They
00:45:48.220
got Austin in, uh, in Germany about Ukraine. They're spitting in your face in the Trump news
00:45:54.280
term. Got to wake up to the fact that these guys have no intention of turning anything over
00:46:00.160
anything meaningful. They want your second term to be totally performative and they're digging in
00:46:06.400
hard. If they dig in hard, we got to dig them out harder. Get the trenching tools ready because
00:46:11.620
we're going to dig these people out. It's not going to be like last time. Jack, I know you got to get
00:46:16.580
back to the family just real quickly. Got a couple of minutes. This situation in Vegas is mind blowing,
00:46:22.860
uh, about what's going on and what's being released. I know you've got a great sense of things,
00:46:26.940
particularly Chinese drones and technology and Chinese drones. What do you, this, they're trying
00:46:32.520
to say this guy's despondent, but I'm seeing videos where he's driving the car saying he's
00:46:35.880
Batman. Give us your assessment. What, what, how should we filter this? Because more information
00:46:41.300
is going to come out, I'm sure, over the weekend, sir. Look, uh, you know, you know, I've seen the
00:46:46.260
videos that have come out. I've seen the, uh, the email that, you know, was reported on, uh,
00:46:50.980
you know, a recent podcast as well as the email that was put out from the Las Vegas Sheriff's
00:46:56.280
department saying that they got a completely separate email that doesn't mention any of
00:47:00.120
the information that's in the first email that was found apparently on the guy's phone in the
00:47:06.080
Tesla. Look, I I'm going to issue a statement to just everybody. Stay frosty. Stay frosty.
00:47:12.540
I'm Jack Frost over here on all this stuff and ask questions, ask questions of, should we trust the
00:47:18.360
United Nations, which gets cited in this email? Should we trust, um, any of these various things
00:47:24.020
that are being cited? Should we trust any word of this, which isn't provided with any
00:47:27.760
information? Look, you're going to, and you're going to sit there by the way. And at one point
00:47:31.080
they're accusing us soldiers under president Trump of war crimes. All right. You know, we're going to
00:47:36.100
do that. You better back that up with evidence. And I'm not talking about just some basic slimsy.
00:47:41.360
Oh, we'll be talked to a guy and then said, no, no, no. Show me the evidence that proves the war
00:47:45.740
crimes. So that's number one with the rest of it though. Look, this type of technology
00:47:49.780
is out there. I'm not saying it isn't, but we've got counter technology as well. What it really comes
00:47:55.020
down to, regardless of what anyone thinks is going on with that Vegas situation, which,
00:47:59.760
you know, looks to me like a clearly a guy who, uh, clearly a guy who wasn't in the right state of
00:48:04.840
mind that we've got an inauguration coming up in 16 days in 16 days. And the chaos is escalating.
00:48:12.580
You are seeing chaos escalation at a mass scale now. And I haven't yet to see a final security
00:48:19.160
report or any kind of security briefing from Washington, DC, from mayor Bowser, from new
00:48:24.420
speaker, John new speaker, John to no days off between now and inauguration day. You have the
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ability to declare national guard deployment for the national capital region. And by the way,
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not just DC, not just the square, I'm saying national capital region, period, make it happen.
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Keep the people safe because thousands of families, mine included, are going to be there for that
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Poso, where do we go to follow you on social media over the weekend, brother?
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Yeah, we're up on X, you know, we're, we're, we're dishing it out. Of course, if people want
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to go listen, by the way, the Chronicles of the Christian series is up. It did very, very well
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on the podcast side, all about Christian history and understanding who we are as a Western civilization
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and the fact that Christianity has always been at the center of it.
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Thank you, brother. Thank Tanya for letting you go for an hour to join us.
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You have to seize it by the throat. There is no turnover. They're not going to, they have
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no intention of turning over the levers of power of this government. And anybody that thinks
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that they're prepared to do it are sadly mistaken. We're at a political war. They have no, they
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don't care about November 5th. They're fascist. Don't think they're fascist. They got George
00:49:44.960
Soros in the White House, the White House. I guess Clinton already, you know, Bill Clinton
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told you what he thought about the sacred nature of the White House. George Soros the other day,
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