Episode 4204： Crushing The American Oligarchs; Day 1 Deportations
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On today's show, Alex Blumberg and John Ava nonchalantly discuss the idea that President Joe Biden should pardon some of President Trump's political enemies. They discuss why this is a good idea, why it's a bad idea, and why it should happen.
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that President Biden is reportedly considering preemptive pardons of Trump's political enemies,
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maybe on January 19th or 20th. What's your feeling about that?
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I, I gotta say, I feel like I'm out of step with most of the commentariat on this because
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from the very beginning, from the first time that was first reported, I just felt like,
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oh yeah, definitely. You should do that. And I know it's not that simple. And I know that I
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understand the arguments against it, which is as Biden himself has articulated, like these people
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have done nothing wrong. Why do they need a pardon? I also understand like, oh, if you give these
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pardons, then that will give you less of a moral leg to stand on for criticizing Trump's abuse of
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the pardon power. Trump is already very happy abusing the pardon power. Trump gave a pardon to
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Jared Kushner's dad and now is making him ambassador to France. Like the idea that,
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that Trump is looking for like other recent presidents to decide what's morally and politically
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acceptable on when it comes to pardons is ridiculous. He pardoned Paul Manafort. He,
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you know, interfered in, in, in Roger Stone sentencing and, and got Michael Flynn's plea over it. I mean,
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the guy, anyway, um, the idea that there's any sort of like moral calculus that involves a
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comparison of Donald Trump to anybody on these things, I just think is not living in reality.
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And I think that Biden realistically can count on the fact that Trump is not going to act in good
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faith, that if he's going to put in an attorney general who at the Republican national convention
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said, yeah, lock her up. I love that. If he's going to put somebody like cash QAnon Patel and the head
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of the FBI, who says he's going to abolish the FBI and turn it into a museum of the deep state.
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I mean, yeah, you're not talking about a good faith cast of characters who's planning on
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using the criminal justice system in a way that, you know, meets our historical standards for what
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counts as, as, as serious and, and well-predicated action. And so, yeah, he should protect people who
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don't deserve to be abused with that system. And Trump, Trump has been, and Patel has been open
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enough about, they've been open enough about who exactly they're planning on, on going after.
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They should just take the entire list of 60 people in Patel's book. And on the basis of the fact that
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they're in Patel's book, give them all pardons. All the people who Trump has, has threatened on the
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campaign trial, give them pardons. You're not dealing with somebody who's looking to you to make,
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you know, fine, morally grained distinctions here about how he's going to use the pardon power based
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on what you do with it. Just protect people who don't, don't deserve to be destroyed by these
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people who are promising to do it. I just don't think it's that hard. What do you think about it?
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What he did in the Oval Office address the other night, what he continuously reiterated in the
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interview on the excellent interview that Lawrence conducted is that Joe Biden understands this moment
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and he wants the American people to understand this moment as well. He is not going out, you know,
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all rainbows and bunnies, as I like to say, and giving a laundry list of all his accomplishments and
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says, oh, it's going to be all right. He is warning us all that if we do not stand guard,
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if we do not do something, in the words of, you know, Michelle Obama, this country is going to
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become something that we do not recognize. And I know some people might say that that's hyperbole,
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but look around, open your eyes. If there are mass deportation efforts and mass anti-immigrant raids,
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and they are carried out in the spirit that Stephen Miller and Tom Homan and Donald Trump and J.D.
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Vance have been talking about for the last few months, and those start, as is being reported
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today in the Wall Street Journal and elsewhere, those start within hours of the inaugural. I think
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that we are going to see resistance to those things. I think we are going to see communities react to
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households and businesses being raided and families being torn apart and them trying to build camps to
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put people in and all of that stuff they say they're going to do. That's going to start,
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according to recent reporting, within 24 hours of the swearing in. And I think that sort of
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reactive demonstration we should probably count on. And I think the cities where they're threatening
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these deportation actions in the first 24 hours, whether it's Chicago or New York or L.A. or Miami
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or Denver or wherever else they're going to try, I think there is going to be a local reaction.
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I don't know how well organized or visceral it's going to be, but that could potentially be a big deal.
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And I think that we should be ready again, sort of ready for anything in terms of what that turns
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into. I agree with you. And I also think the fact that the White House is floating the notion of
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potential preemptive pardons right now when it's the closing hours of the Biden administration is a
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pretty good indicator that it's going to happen or that they're quite close to convincing the
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president because otherwise, why confirm it? We'll see that.
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I just, yeah, I mean, I just think like with the January 6th committee, for example, like I'm sure
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there's distinctions between some of those people wanting the pardon and some of them not. Ignore
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that. Just give them all the same pardon. Give the same pardon to literally everybody who's in
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Kash Patel's book, to everybody who Trump has singled out on the campaign trail or that members of his
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campaign have singled out. Members of the transition have singled out. Just do it. And yeah, people grind
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their teeth about it, but it will also prevent those people from being destroyed by a bad faith
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incoming administration that's promising to destroy them for political reasons. And as an abuse of our
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criminal justice system, you can protect it with the stroke of a pen. You can protect those people
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with the stroke of a pen. And I just, I just really think that president Biden should do it. And I hope he
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does. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going to
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provide the evil on these people. You're going to get a free shot. All these networks lying about the
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people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've
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tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to
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happen. And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish
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that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task? And what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Saturday, 18 January in the year of our Lord, 2025. You're in the War Room on the, I don't
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know, we got 48 hours. We'll end today and we have 48 hours, a new 48 hours until the inauguration of
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47th president of the United States. We would love to sit here and tell you about all the, you know,
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celebrations and it's all rah-rah and everything's great, but we want to give you a reality check of
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what's going on. Biden, as we've warned about, warned you about for weeks and weeks and weeks,
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President Biden and that illegitimate regime that's being turfed out. Right now,
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they're doing everything possible to set traps for President Trump. Just a random occurrence.
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Janet Yellen has announced that the debt ceiling will be hit, wait for it, at nine o'clock in the
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morning on Tuesday, the 21st. Isn't that surprising? I'm so shocked. How did that happen with all the
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possible dates we hit the debt ceiling, the very first full day of President Trump's second term?
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Also, Biden's out with the executive orders now trying to basically thwart everything on the border
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immigration. They're still on a tear with the war in Ukraine, the kinetic wars on a tear. And believe
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me, the ceasefire in Israel and Gaza is 100% the work of President Trump. I understand a lot of people
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in our audience are not happy with that. A lot of people on the right and Israel are not happy in
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that. They think she should be able to finish the job. They should be able to finish the job with
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Hamas and with the Muslim Brotherhood. Right? Correct. But it's still President Trump's work.
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Biden did nothing on this. It was the pressure of President Trump on B.B. Netanyahu to say,
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hey, we got to get these hostage exchange. You got to have a ceasefire. At least we got to get some
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order over there. Everywhere you look, on every one of the verticals we've talked about, on the ending
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the kinetic part of the Third World War, on taking care of the debt and the deficit and all the
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problems we have there from how Biden did this to the deportation of, I don't know, 15 million
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illegal alien invaders. Let's say it's 12. Who knows? It's a massive number. It's going to take
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years and cost a lot of money. And Biden's not going to help. They're going to be in your face.
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It was announced. Todd Benson is going to be in a little while. It was announced we're going to have
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a ice raid in the city of Chicago. So President Trump's going to sit there right now. The mayor of
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Chicago is going to say, I'm a sanctuary city and you're not going to take any illegal aliens out of
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here. Tom Homan and Stephen Miller are saying, well, okay, let's just get it done. Let's go
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ahead and vet that right now, right at the top. And they're going to do it. Now they leaked it to
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the Wall Street Journal. I don't know why they did that, but they did it. So it's public information.
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Now Benzman is going to join us. Also the Catholic Church to make sure that the fake Pope has got his
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hand in this. He's announced he's put for one of the most radical cardinals to be the
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senior cardinal in the archdiocese of Washington, D.C.
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Right? I think it's McElroy. And he is an open borders, anti-deportation. They're doing that so
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that this radical left-wing group that runs the Catholic Church today can have, which by the way,
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there's going to be a criminal investigation of the invasion on the southern border, a massive
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criminal investigation on the invasion that's on the border. And when you see that, the Catholic
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charities are going to be wrapped up in that, right? Are going to be wrapped up in that. So we'll get
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to see all that later with John Yep's going to join us and hopefully get Liz Yor to join us too. So
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we're going to confront that today. Across the board, everywhere you see, there's a resistance. Now
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where you didn't see the resistance, where they had a chance to have the resistance was this week
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at the cabinet secretaries, the confirmation hearings. Remember the pregame or the preamble
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to Days of Thunder. What did they do? You had Marco Rubio. Senator Rubio sat there and said,
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we've got the end of the rules-based order. We're seeing the end of the rules-based order. And quite
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frankly, the system was gamed. It doesn't work for the United States. It was underwriting. We're
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going to do away with that. Democrats, crickets. You had Pete Hexas say, we're going to have a
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revolution in military affairs. Younger officers are going to run this. We're going to reinstall
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into the Pentagon and to our forces the warrior ethos and how to win wars, not to have these
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forever wars so the defense contractors make out and everybody else ends up in either Section 60 at
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Arlington National Cemetery or in a VA hospital or somehow homeless on the side of the road or 26
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veterans a day with PTSD. We're finished that. Pushback by the Democrats, not one. I don't know,
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the heritans on the female senators went after him for his personal foibles, right? Nothing about
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any deep issues. Don't believe me. David Birx of the New York Times goes after basically the
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Democratic Party for not really laying a glove on Hexas on anything policy. You had Kristi Noem yesterday.
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They gave up. At the end of it, the senators weren't even there. Kristi Noem, with everything
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we have, everything that's going on with deportations, everything that's going on with
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immigration, everything that's going on with security of the border, a couple of feckless
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questions and then nothing. Scott Besson and Russ Vogt lay out the president's economic plan
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pretty succinctly about spending, about taxes, about tariffs. You had some yammering by Wyden
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asking, you know, like some questions you would ask as a freshman in an economics course
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to a professor about, hey, tell me, I don't understand how this works. I'm trying to say
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how it works. It didn't work. Wyden from Oregon look terrible. So you've just got consistently
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across the board, Pam Bondi gives her theory of the case for, you know, for how she's going
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to run the Justice Department, how she's going to de-weaponize the Justice Department, how you're
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going to stop, how she's going to stop the weaponization of the Justice Department against,
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I don't know, 70-year-old women who are now in federal prison for praying the rosy outside
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of abortion mills. I think there's 26, we'll get this, there's been a petition to President
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Trump, 26 folks who prayed in front of abortion centers now in federal prison. Many of those
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people in their late 60s, early 70s. Or how about the intimidation of parents at school
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board meetings or the conservative traditional Catholics, right, the FBI, the Justice Department.
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She lays out the whole case for two days, nothing, nothing but crickets. What they're
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asking her is the 2020 election legitimate, is the 2020 election, and she answered over
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and over and over again, hey, Biden's president, deal with it. We'll give him the short answer,
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Biden is illegitimate, okay? Very well known he's illegitimate. It's one of the reasons American
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people turfed him out because two-thirds of the Republican Party now think he's illegitimate,
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stole the election. I don't know, 50% of independents, 20, 25% Democrats.
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The Biden regime is going out like they came in with no class, no class. What they did the
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first day is they undid all the executive orders that President Trump had that allowed him to have
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control of the border and make the United States of America a sovereign nation
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that responds to and supports its citizens, not illegal alien invaders, not particularly 12 to 15
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million. All over D.C. right now, the game's being played. I got a notice for the Biden regime.
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Days of thunder means days of thunder. Get your bags packed because you're leaving. All of you,
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thousands of you are going to be turfed out right after noon on Monday. From U.S. attorneys to guys
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on boards, you're all gone. So get your bags packed. If you stick around, I hope you face criminal
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charges. People have had enough of this. You know, you lost. You got blown out. You had every chance.
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You created the oligarchs. The oligarchs are talking about created on your watch. You were the ones that
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bailed out Silicon Valley Bank, not President Trump. We had no power for four years. You had
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all the power. You created the oligarchs to suppress the MAGA movement. And guess what?
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You lost. And now all you're doing is to have a peaceful transfer. You're fighting and fighting
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Do it today. Action, action, action. Welcome back. You have worked so hard for years in the Trump
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first term, but the second term, remember, remember 20 January, make sure it's emblazoned on your soul,
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20 January, 2021. When President Trump went to Andrews Air Force Base, nobody went with him.
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There's no big farewell. They wanted to get rid of him. They never, ever, ever, ever thought in one
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billion years that he would return four years later, having swept everything and having kind of
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ultimate full spectrum, dominance powers we talk about, although the margins are small. We know that,
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but he's changed the mindset of the country. You can already tell that. We would love to be able to
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celebrate that. But here in the world, we celebrate that by making sure that his most battle hardened
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people are ready to go and ready to roll because you can tell behind the scenes, all they're trying
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to do is resist and stop President Trump on his first, on his first, you know, first hundred days,
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which will set the template or the tone of this, uh, of this second term.
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Everything the Biden regime is doing, everything in every area is to thwart
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President Trump and President Trump's policies. The thing that's kind of most egregious, not the most
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egregious, but it's offensive. Let's say it's offensive. Is Biden on his farewell address to the
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nation. I mean, why is he even given a farewell? He went over to the defense department, gave a farewell
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address like they care. He should go over to section 60 at Arlington. And that is where the,
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um, the, uh, warriors from the Iraq and Afghan war are buried in that section of Arlington national
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cemetery. And, um, he should address them and particularly the 13 that he essentially had
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murdered. And that's what they were killed in the line of duty in Afghanistan, that debaq over a retreat.
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But everything he's doing, you address the nation. It's like, it's like Washington's address to the
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nation. It's federal address, uh, Eisenhower's. Are you kidding me? And MSNBC makes such an NBC
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makes such a big deal about this and didn't have that embarrassing interview with him afterwards.
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His ratings are in the twenties. People just want him gone. And on one level, they're finishing with
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a whimper on another level. They are working everywhere to stop this. And I think president
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Trump and his team have just had enough of it. And to know that good job that president Trump's
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team's doing, just look at, look at last week on the confirmation errors. Remember we were all over
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cutting back and forth this bang, bang, bang. It turned out they didn't lay a glove on anybody.
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All those people last week are getting confirmed. Did the Democrats think that going in? This also
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reinforced the fact we should have never given up on Gates. And more importantly, we shouldn't let
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Gates give up on himself. Gates would have been the attorney general. Pam's going to be great.
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But Gates, Gates puts fear into the apparatus. He would have been the attorney general. They're not
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stopping Trump now. You can tell there's not even any intellectual firepower to come back on. So
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what do they have to do? Oh, it's oligarchs. All these oligarchs, oligarchs, oligarchs. Stop.
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Just stop. Just stop. We've had no power. None. Zero. President Trump was a contender for no power. We
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have no control of anything. You got Johnson up there, but we have no power. MAGA has no power. Zero.
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The oligarchs are a creation of the Biden regime, a creation. Now, when it started, it started with the
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bailouts of in 2008. We're still trying to recover from the solutions to the 2008 problem. The problem
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was bad enough created by Bush and Congress. The solutions done by Obama and Congress, the solutions
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were terrible because that really led to the greatest concentration of wealth in the nation's
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history. The way we bailed out the insurance companies and the banks and the investment
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banks. We bailed them out. I think they put $5 trillion, $5 trillion, the Federal Reserve
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pumped $5 trillion, $5 or $6 trillion, real money at the time, into the system to save the
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system. Did you get a bailout? No, you did not. Did African-Americans, Hispanics have bought
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the houses, right, that might have been a little bit outside the grass, they get a bailout? No,
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they got zeroed out and blown out, okay? It's the way the system works. And Obama, the big
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progressive, he did it, Geithner. The reason he did it, he didn't know enough about it. He
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was kind of a babe in the woods. Don't trust me, read the books at the time. Susskind's
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book, Confidence Man, it shows you Obama's kind of wandering around, constitutional lawyer.
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You're in the middle of a financial meltdown. You don't need to, you know, it's the Constitution,
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you can check it, it's a contract, I got it, I know what you got to do, but it's the bailout
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that is the most important thing. He didn't know what he was doing. So he bailed out the
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wealthy. Led to the greatest concentration of wealth and power in this nation. And then
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Biden comes in after President Trump had to deal with that. And all those oligarchs were
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shutting us down the entire time in the first term, remember? Because we caught them sleeping
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in 16, particularly Facebook, and were able to use Facebook like it was supposed to be
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used. And they all, after that, went down and shut it down. This show, hey, we are permanently
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banned everywhere. You don't hear me on the show whining about that. I don't give a tinker's
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damn about that. I do not. This show is the second biggest political podcast in the country
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on politics because the content people like and people share the content. I'm a populist.
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I'm not going to kowtow to Zuckerberg. He's a criminal. Bezos, he's a weirdo. Musk, no,
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not going to do it. Google, those guys, they're beauts. No, YouTube banned forever, big deal.
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But this thing of oligarchs, for President Trump, it's a surrender ceremony.
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They're not there to exert their power. We broke them. More importantly, you broke them.
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They were against Trump from the beginning. We were banned everywhere. Trump was banned
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everywhere, everywhere. What did you see with Zuckerberg running down with his little million
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dollar check? Please, please, please. You know why? He doesn't want a criminal investigation.
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Brother, you're going to get one. You're going to get one because you deserve it. We got to get to
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the bottom of 2020. People say, yo, Steve, you got to look forward. Hey, we are looking for it.
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President Trump's looking forward to the sunlit uplands. That's why he's working on peace and
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prosperity. But there's some of the work that's got to take place. It just has to. We can walk and
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chew gum. We're a big country. We're a hegemon right now. Still, hegemons can do a couple of three
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things. They created the oligarchs and we broke the oligarchs. That is what this story is about.
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And now they're freaked out. The reason they're turning on them is because the oligarchs have
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surrendered. The oligarchs surrendered. That's why they're turning on them. It's obvious.
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You broke them. People with no power, with no money. Because you use your agency and collectively
00:23:26.800
you had the back of a guy who sat there and had the moral courage to say, guess what? I'm going to
00:23:31.160
come back and do this. You had his back. Why were we in East Palestine yesterday? One,
00:23:39.000
to hear the problems haven't been solved. But that's the inflection point of this campaign
00:23:42.000
when Trump went to East Palestine and nobody else did and nobody else could. Oh, excuse me.
00:23:46.660
They sent Pete Buttigieg. That's a beauty. Put his goggles on. It looked like some third grader
00:23:52.280
for the first day of school. Or looked like, you know, come dress is what you want to be.
00:23:56.520
Well, I want to be a working man. Put a vest on, a goofy helmet, and a set of goggles. Are you
00:24:01.440
kidding me? That's going to go out against President Trump? That's called nerd rule. That's what we had
00:24:08.260
during the pandemic with Fauci and all these guys on TV, you know, all the experts, all the people in
00:24:13.280
white coats on MSNBC. We've had nerd rule during the pandemic of Biden. We've had nerd rule by the
00:24:20.040
oligarchs. They turned the power to the oligarchs. And guess what? You, everyday Americans with common
00:24:26.160
sense, grit, determination, you broke them. And you had an instrument to break them. It's called
00:24:31.840
Donald Trump, who not only showed the moral courage to come back, but then showed the physical courage
00:24:38.040
when they tried to assassinate him to get up on the stage and said, what were his words? Surrender?
00:24:43.340
What was his words? Let's have unity. What was his words? And let me think. Let me think. Oh,
00:24:47.960
yeah, I remember. Fight, fight, fight. As he's bleeding, shot in the side of the head. Only by the
00:24:55.720
grace of God did he not take a bullet in the temple. And they're here today, the opposition.
00:25:03.140
Don't think they're just going to toss you that. I knew they're just going to toss you the keys and
00:25:06.460
say, hey, guess what? We gave it a shot. The four years didn't work out. We'll get you next time.
00:25:11.040
No, no, no. It doesn't work. The administrative state and the deep state are dug in and they're
00:25:16.660
dug in hard. Okay. And Biden, these guys, Biden's leaving because he's, I don't know, he's not
00:25:23.960
fully with the program. You can tell that, but they got many, they got ranks and ranks and ranks of
00:25:28.500
these guys. Dave Bratt, before we go to break, put this in perspective. Todd Benson is going to join us
00:25:35.120
about Chicago. We got John Yepp about the Catholics trying to get in here. I shouldn't say the Catholics,
00:25:39.740
not the traditional Catholics, but the fake Pope and his crowd trying to get in here.
00:25:47.220
Yeah, what I got is your whole discussion about oligarchs. The big framing narrative is the
00:25:53.280
Judeo-Christian West. And people say, why do you got to go there all the time, Dave? Because none of
00:25:59.340
the oligarchs, and especially Soros, doesn't fit within that narrative, right? If you'll notice,
00:26:04.940
everything we love in this country, the populist movement, the nationalism, God has framed three
00:26:12.060
orders, right? The nation state, and then the church, and the synagogue, and then the family.
00:26:18.280
All of those are being ripped apart. They fit in with the war room three issues. They've torn apart
00:26:23.940
the economy and the debt and the deficits. They're tearing apart our financial system and the lives of
00:26:28.260
the bottom half of this country. They're tearing apart the border. All of this is biblical, right?
00:26:34.000
Joseph, if you haven't read the Old Testament, he was the manager of the grain, and people had
00:26:40.660
to be disciplined over the long run because there's seven good years and seven bad years,
00:26:46.420
right? We got some bad years coming likely, right? The third issue, of course, is war.
00:26:50.440
And so these oligarchs, they do not fit within the Judeo-Christian West. Which one of them has
00:26:56.820
mentioned God and God's order of things? None. If that strikes you as odd, it's also, Rubio,
00:27:03.880
very good comments in his testimony. He brought up Soros, and he brought up his book and his mentor,
00:27:11.060
Karl Popper, Logical Positivism, That School of Thought. If you don't know that, go look it up.
00:27:15.700
But Milton Friedman studied that stuff and tried to square the circle, and he couldn't because he
00:27:21.540
was trying to reduce everything to just the empirical realm. That whole project, the post-World
00:27:27.220
War II liberal order, the open society, how can you be against that? Very easily because Soros does not
00:27:34.760
believe in the open society, and he does not believe in you, and he does not believe in freedom. And he
00:27:40.740
just won the Freedom Medal from the President of the United States. It's an outrage, right? The last
00:27:46.300
thing he believes is in letting you dictate the future of your own country. He's opposed to freedom,
00:27:55.740
Yep. Hang on for a second, Brother Brett. You're going to stick with the co-host all morning.
00:28:01.000
Ben's going to join us. John Yep's going to join us. Ben Harnwell. We've got a lot to go through.
00:28:04.700
It's a working Saturday here in the World War Room on Inauguration Weekend. Days of Thunder
00:28:12.040
are ahead. Already had a pretty good preamble on that. Pretty good pregame. Short break. Back in a moment.
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...of an American oligarchy. I think it's an incredibly important, I mean, the choices he's
00:29:35.820
made in these final days should leave no doubt in anyone's mind that it's as dire as people have
00:29:41.420
been mourning. Absolutely. And you know, to be clear, that is not how Joe Biden talks. You know,
00:29:46.020
anyone who knows the president, he doesn't speak like that. This is not a speech, frankly,
00:29:51.300
that he had given before. And that, anyone, just take a look at what he has said. That should let
00:29:58.920
you know that he understands this moment. The president is someone who believes in the
00:30:03.820
institutions, right? He talked about with the interview with Lawrence when he, why he, you
00:30:08.020
know, got into public service in the first place. He started as a county councilman and then became
00:30:12.520
the youngest person ever elected to the United States Senate at one point in time. Then, obviously,
00:30:16.620
vice president and now president. Joe Biden is someone that even when, when we worked for him
00:30:21.440
and we would say, you know, he, I would get into very spirited, um, battles, if you will, with,
00:30:26.280
uh, the, the president, when I worked for him on the campaign trail in the, um, in 2020, because
00:30:30.520
Joe Biden would say, you know, this is, he would, it would sound sometimes that he is talking about
00:30:35.180
a Congress and a way of life and politics that no longer exists. And for all of us, even people that
00:30:40.720
worked for him, that doubted him. Simone, good try. Good try. Good try. Let me repeat this. And we're
00:30:45.560
going to, this is information war and narrative war. They created the oligarchs. They created
00:30:51.940
the oligarchs in the social media because it worked for them for state control, state power
00:30:57.000
to suppress you, your voice. Yes. Suppress Trump as the head of our movement, but also to suppress
00:31:03.300
every, at every step. How many of you de-platformed? How many? A lot. Particularly if you want to talk
00:31:11.360
about, I don't know, the vaccine, the COVID mandates, the mass mandates, the election,
00:31:16.520
anything that was interesting to you. And guess what? That you're right on 100% Wuhan lab. Remember
00:31:21.340
Wuhan lab? Think of what you were suppressed for. The, the, the drag queen story hours, right?
00:31:29.920
What they're, the pornography they're putting in the schools. Just go through FBI, then doing
00:31:34.260
raids, all working in conjunction. They created the oligarchs because it worked for them. Never in
00:31:39.320
a billion years that they ever think we would win. Now they're turning on their own. This
00:31:44.300
is fine. It's perfect. It's great. Rachel, we're going to show you how to deal with oligarchs.
00:31:53.680
Could it be some, you know, inter-squad scrimmage on our side of the football? Maybe. You've
00:32:00.020
seen a little of this so far. It's fine. This is what it is. It's, it's, it's all a process.
00:32:05.780
It's, it's all a process. That's what they don't understand.
00:32:11.260
Brett, and now, now, now they're, now they're coming, their new take this morning is war
00:32:16.420
room and Bannon are going to be beaten from the right. They're going to, somebody's going
00:32:19.740
to get to the right of the war room and the war room posse. And this is what their, their
00:32:24.940
thing is, oh, the libertarians, the crypto guys and the crypto, because the crypto guys had
00:32:30.060
a big ball here last night. And, you know, Elon Musk, that we're going to be, they're going
00:32:34.100
to, they're going to get us from the right. Dave Brett, your thoughts on that?
00:32:39.260
Yeah, no, I mean, they own the ink, right? They own the papers. So they're, they're trying
00:32:45.380
to set the new narrative. They're going to fail spectacularly because of this show is putting
00:32:50.980
information out for, for the war room posse and it's spreading across the country. I'm traveling
00:32:56.400
across the country and these messages, Trump's messages, the RNC platform messages spreading
00:33:03.060
like wildfire. Everybody knows you've been lied to. You just went through the whole list.
00:33:07.480
I mean, they just assaulted our, the left wants to take down the country. They want to take
00:33:12.740
down every major institution. And so now they're framing this, you know, this new war at war
00:33:18.220
with the right. What they're calling the oligarchs the right, because the oligarchs are kind of
00:33:22.580
like the old Paul Ryan country club Republicans, right? So they're the rich guys that controlled
00:33:28.320
the apparatus for 30 or 40 years and ruined our party and lost our connection with the
00:33:33.580
people. Well, now we have black, brown, blue collar, Hispanic folks coming our way. And
00:33:40.440
we are given a message that resonates right with that. Our, our Reno book, the return of
00:33:46.420
the strong gods, uh, that Russ vote, uh, pushes, uh, and that you just heard, uh, Senator Rubio
00:33:53.240
pushing in his confirmation heroes. They have tried to strip us of everything we love, uh, and this
00:33:59.080
new open society, liberal rules-based order. There's nothing you love, right? There's nothing that binds
00:34:06.180
the people together that attaches us together as citizens and brothers and sisters in faith, even
00:34:12.680
higher. Uh, their country is yearning for that, right? I'm at Liberty university. Let me tell you,
00:34:18.140
when I go out on the road, people are yearning, uh, for us to take a leadership position in the world
00:34:23.620
again, because they know that narrative is the narrative of the past, you know, 4,000 years,
00:34:30.400
uh, 2000 years of, uh, of Christianity. All of our institutions used to fit within that narrative.
00:34:37.100
Rachel Maddow is interesting. I've never heard any of this kind of thing. Well, yeah,
00:34:42.360
shocker, Rachel, you haven't heard of anything that fits within the Judeo-Christian West because
00:34:46.660
you're trying to tear it all apart. And so that's the great debate. Every, every issue fits
00:34:52.060
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Do we have a clip? Do I have Todd Bensman? Okay. I want to turn, Dave's here with me today,
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always said the big picture framing in the Judeo-Christian West in our history as a constitutional
00:37:44.700
republic, which we have to get back to. Bensman, and I don't know how long we're going to have
00:37:49.900
Bensman for. You know, we lost Besant. We lost Navarro. We lost Vote. Fine. These guys are great.
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They've been great contributors and really enlightened us the last couple of years. They
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have work to do in the administration, assisting President Trump and executing President Trump's
00:38:03.460
ideas and his plans. There's going to be a showdown on Monday. I love it. I'm not so sure I would
00:38:09.780
have leaked it to the Wall Street Journal, but hey, it is what it is. There's going to be a showdown
00:38:13.240
Tuesday, well, Monday with the Biden regime. And Biden regime, let me just say again, anybody that's
00:38:18.900
associated with the Biden regime, get your bags packed and call an Uber. And don't stick around
00:38:24.420
afternoon on the 20th because you're not wanted. You're not welcome. You're gone. And some, I think
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some people are going to try and be feisty about it. Okay. Be as feisty as you want.
00:38:34.520
Be as feisty as you want. Do what you do. You're free men and women. Do what you do.
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But I don't know. I think you're going to be put on notice. Your services are no longer
00:38:50.220
On Tuesday, there's going to be a showdown. Let's play the clip and we'll get the great
00:38:53.020
Todd Bensman in here. There's going to be a showdown in Chicago. I think it's greatest
00:38:56.680
in Chicago, the heart of the Midwest, right? One of the great cities, the second city in the
00:39:00.600
United States kind of drifted the last decade or so. We'll get into that. Let's go and play
00:39:07.180
The Wall Street Journal is reporting tonight that the administration, the incoming Trump
00:39:10.720
administration, is planning to start large scale deportations on Tuesday, deploying as
00:39:16.040
many as 200 ICE officers to Chicago. I just want to say, just for people who aren't familiar
00:39:21.000
with the number of officers it takes to engage in large scale raids, 200 officers seems like
00:39:27.400
a lot. But I mean, Marco Rubio is saying they want to deport 10, 20, 30 million undocumented
00:39:32.820
people from this country. That will require a redeployment of federal officers, the scale
00:39:41.620
You know, so I think there's also the truism of the Trump years, which is, you know, there
00:39:47.620
is a lot of talk that is very pitched and it is intended to invoke fear. And oftentimes it's
00:39:53.360
quite successful. And it's not to minimize those affected by a 200-person ICE raid in
00:39:57.960
the city of Chicago. But Donald Trump's ability to actually execute on the mass deportations
00:40:04.280
he's promised is an open question. And I think within that, there is a lot of opportunity for
00:40:09.500
resistance, the kind of which you just outlined, Rachel.
00:40:12.580
Yeah. And I think he's also picking a fight. I mean, I think that there's a reason.
00:40:15.660
Yeah. Picking a fight. Todd Benzman, he's very specific. The mayor in Chicago has been
00:40:24.600
adamant about being a sanctuary city. President Trump, Tom Homan and Stephen Miller are going
00:40:29.480
to call his bluff in the first 24 hours. Walk me through it.
00:40:33.940
Well, they're feuding. The mayor of Chicago is saying out loud over and over again, we're
00:40:40.120
going to protect criminal aliens from you. We're going to preserve their presence among
00:40:45.660
our people. We're going to inflict them on our people. And Homan's saying, yeah, well,
00:40:52.400
we may just arrest you because that's a crime. You can't get in the way of law enforcement
00:41:00.040
operations. And so it's tit for tat like that. And Homan's saying, the first place I'm going
00:41:05.660
to be on day one is Chicago, which is just sort of a way of telling them that we are going
00:41:13.240
to overwhelm you. We are not going to be dissuaded by your sanctuary policies, your criminal alien
00:41:20.600
protection policies, because that's what it is that just so you know, sanctuary policy is
00:41:27.140
primarily the central pillar of it is local law enforcement is not going to tell ICE when
00:41:35.060
a criminal alien is getting out of jail or prison so that they can come pick them up and
00:41:40.060
deport them, which is outrageous. I'll never understand how an elected official could choose
00:41:48.560
that and say it out loud over and over again. Proudly, we're going to inflict.
00:41:53.460
OK, hang on. Hang on. Before we go to break, before we go to break, why should this give me give it to
00:41:58.500
me in 60 seconds? We got a big country. You got 12 to 15 million. You know, you got the border
00:42:04.860
states. You got Texas, Arizona. Why? You got New York City. You got San Francisco, L.A. Why Chicago?
00:42:12.300
Chicago is just one of the that's where you're going to see Homan probably. But they're hitting
00:42:17.140
all of those at the same time. You're going to see L.A. You're going to see New York, Denver,
00:42:22.920
probably Boston. It's going to be a whole it's not just 200 in Chicago. It's going to be hundreds more
00:42:31.040
in all these other cities. So they're going to be raids and roundups and they're designed to be
00:42:36.980
highly visible because messaging is important, regardless of how many they actually pick up.
00:42:44.340
And in fact, I'm thinking that most of those who are criminal aliens are on the run right now looking
00:42:49.700
to hide from this. But it doesn't matter how many ultimately they pick up because the raids matter
00:42:56.800
to the rest of the world down trail. When they start to close the border, they need people down
00:43:03.780
there to stop in place, shelter in place, turn around and go home because of what they're seeing
00:43:08.240
in Chicago. Hang on for one second. Todd, I'm going to hold you through the break and get back to you.
00:43:13.420
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Okay, welcome back. Todd, look, here's where I got a problem. I shouldn't say a problem. I'll say an
00:45:04.320
issue. I want to bring up an issue for the audience. Because you read the article in the
00:45:09.760
Wall Street Journal. It's leaked the Wall Street Journal. It's for people familiar with the plan.
00:45:16.280
That would be, did it sound like administration people? It could be people in the administrative
00:45:19.760
state, one or the other. What do you think happened here? You think this leak came from President Trump
00:45:24.360
and his team or as the administrative state? And I keep telling folks, hey, President Trump,
00:45:29.220
this is why it's not really, it's a celebratory mood in the city from MAGA. And now you've got
00:45:34.220
hundreds of thousands of MAGA coming in with nothing to do. That's another issue. We got the strongest
00:45:40.480
MAGA guys. Here's, here's what's breaking my heart. These people are spending their vacation money for
00:45:46.160
the year to come here. And where you should know, and I'm going to work over the weekend with Rob
00:45:51.260
Sieg and Jack Posobiec. We're going to figure out something to have a participatory somehow.
00:45:55.960
We got to do something. So we'll figure it out. But there's not open arms. This city is quite
00:46:02.500
sullen. It's not just the cold weather. It's gray every day and foggy. It's not simply the weather.
00:46:08.740
The administrative state is sullen. There was a leak last night and it was not true that,
00:46:13.400
hey, the thing may be moved to the White House. Remember that? I think it was up on Gateway Pundit because
00:46:17.380
the local police were not working. Okay. That, that was fake news. However,
00:46:23.720
they're not welcoming here with open arms, President Trump. It's a very sullen city,
00:46:29.160
the imperial capital, because they heard the words of Marco Rubio on, on, on Tuesday.
00:46:34.760
Marco says, we're done. We're out of this empire building. It's done. It's over. The forever wars
00:46:39.060
are over. They're done. This is no longer going to be the central headquarters of the post-war
00:46:45.560
international rules-based order. It's going to be different. It's going to work for the American
00:46:49.620
people. And so this entire apparatus that has been built for 60 and 70 years in the boutiques and
00:46:55.500
the homes, and you come here, it's like Paris. It's not like Paris. Well, the layout is like Paris
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and you're going to join. It ain't like Paris that the folks, the working class in the, in the
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war room posse, you can't come because you can't get into the boutiques. You can't get in the
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restaurants, but they treat Trump and his people like that. The senior people, they're not happy.
00:47:18.260
We won. Did you notice that? Have you noticed that? Have you noticed, you know, Rachel and
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these guys are not static. They get the long face, the sad face as Biden finishes with a whimper and
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they're doing everything possible to stop president Trump in his first hundred days to put up every
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barricade, chop block, do everything, every sneaky thing over and over. And they're not here.
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They're welcoming, welcoming us. So the leak could have come from the ministry of state or could have
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come from people in the administration to give them a heads up. But whatever's happening, Todd
00:47:47.940
Benzman, they're going to Chicago for a reason. And this reason, I think, in my own simple mind,
00:47:54.560
that's that big mouth mayor that is thrown down and said, Trump, I don't care what you did.
00:47:59.280
Okay. I'm the mayor. I'm the king of Chicago. I'm a sanctuary city. You know, come and get it.
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And Trump's sending home and out there to say, go get it. I'm president of these United States
00:48:10.420
and he's a mayor of Chicago. We're going to have a standoff. We're going to have a showdown right
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now and a throwdown. Your thoughts. Well, the context is, you know, look at New York,
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Eric Adams, you know, he's capitulating on protecting illegal criminal aliens on that issue.
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They're having, you know, nice talks and they're all, you know, friendly to each other. And same
00:48:34.080
thing is happening in some of the other major blue sanctuary cities. There's this threat about
00:48:40.100
we're going to pull grant money, federal grant money. There's there's threats of arrests of
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officials, sitting officials. And here you've got this one mayor in Chicago who's defiant,
00:48:53.000
a defiant rebel holdout. And I think maybe part of the reason why Homan promised out loud
00:48:59.520
a couple of weeks ago on day one, I'm going to be in Chicago. You can count on it. And if you don't
00:49:05.200
like it, come and get me. I think that's partly be to sort of get the rest of them in line to make an
00:49:13.780
example to overcome that guy. And by the way, Pritzker's even that the governor is starting to make
00:49:21.660
conciliatory sounds, although he's still kind of holdoutish as well. But he is making some
00:49:28.820
conciliatory noises. He's running for president. Hold it. Hang on. He's running for president in
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2028. Pritzker is 100 percent. So he's definitely he sees where the country is. Right before I let
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you go, Todd, and I want everybody to go to your writings because you're reporting on this for the
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last four years is one of the reasons we won. I hear this phrase over and over again.
00:49:49.000
Illegal criminal alien. OK, I got it. The interpretation of those guys, serious crime,
00:49:56.000
the Lake and Riley thing, others. But to me, everybody across that border is an illegal criminal
00:50:03.040
alien. And they all got to go. I know we're starting with the bad guys. But and I realize that maybe,
00:50:09.960
you know, Murdoch's putting out polls in the Wall Street Journal. Oh, we want we want
00:50:14.160
MAGA light. No, Murdoch, you gun decked. You you didn't ask MAGA and you certainly didn't ask
00:50:20.940
Republicans. We ain't looking for light. We're looking for heavy. Understand what the Wall Street
00:50:25.600
Journal wants. Understand what the the neocon neoliberal apparatus, the Washington census wants.
00:50:32.380
That's not what we want. We don't whatever the Wall Street Journal wants. We want the opposite.
00:50:36.680
How about that? We'll keep it simple. Todd, before we let you go, what's your thoughts on that? Is
00:50:42.100
it going to stop with and by the way, just to get the criminal aliens at the bad guys is going to be
00:50:46.860
a Herculean effort. I understand that. But is that where this stops, sir? No, of course not.
00:50:52.060
They are going to be going after as well illegal aliens who have removal orders on them. And there
00:50:59.100
are a lot of them, one point four million at least. And they know where they are. Most of them,
00:51:04.800
they have horses and all the rest. So criminal aliens and the ones that are allowed to walk
00:51:10.180
around with removal orders on them, they'll be going after them. The criminal aliens are probably
00:51:15.920
running and hiding right now, by the way. So don't be I'm going to manage expectations down a little
00:51:21.720
bit. That's maybe with leaking things because you're but but it's just the opening. There's going
00:51:29.520
to be rolling raids that just go on for the next four years. Ice is out is unchained now. And one
00:51:37.140
other last thing, if I can just mention about Chicago, I just back from Chicago, I was there for a week
00:51:43.320
writing about the very first terror attack charged, legally charged terror attack against a illegal
00:51:53.680
immigrant. And you'll hear Homan talk a lot about this is a national security threat. We've got to
00:52:00.240
roll up these national security threats, special interest aliens. That guy was a Maritanian attack,
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the Jewish community there. And don't be surprised if you hear a lot about that as well. Justifications
00:52:12.720
for this. We've got to bet. Where do people over the weekend keep up with you on social media? Where
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they get your writings? Yeah, Benzman Todd on X. I'm on true social getter. Todd Benzman.com. I work
00:52:26.180
for CIS Center for Immigration Studies and all my work is there too. You're magnificent, brother. Thank
00:52:33.700
you for doing this on a Saturday morning. Todd Benzman. Thank you. The greats. Okay, the right stuff.
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