Bannon's War Room - Episode 4227： Command And Control; Live From The WH

00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies,

00:00:08.000 because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:11.000 You're just not going to get a free shot

00:00:13.000 at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:19.000 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:22.000 It's going to happen.

00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:26.000 MAGA Media.

00:00:28.000 I wish in my soul,

00:00:30.000 I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:33.000 Ask yourself,

00:00:34.000 what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:37.000 If that answer is to save my country,

00:00:40.000 this country will be saved.

00:00:43.000 War Room.

00:00:44.000 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:51.000 Okay, I want to go to Ben in Rome first,

00:00:54.000 because I want to finish this.

00:00:56.000 The situation in Ukraine,

00:00:58.000 before we talk about the White House,

00:01:00.000 and then I've got Frank Gaffney,

00:01:01.000 the guys coming about the Middle East and Israel,

00:01:03.000 all that.

00:01:04.000 We're going to also go to Nevada.

00:01:06.000 Talk about historic event yesterday,

00:01:08.000 flipping Nevada on registrations to Republicans.

00:01:11.000 We're getting it all done today.

00:01:13.000 Birch gold.

00:01:15.000 Make sure there's going to be times of turbulence.

00:01:17.000 You see this,

00:01:18.000 what happened in the stock market yesterday.

00:01:19.000 Largest $600 billion.

00:01:21.000 NVIDIA is down.

00:01:24.000 Market cap loss yesterday.

00:01:25.000 You can always make it back,

00:01:26.000 but who knows?

00:01:28.000 The market itself,

00:01:29.000 the equity markets in the United States combined,

00:01:31.000 combo platter,

00:01:32.000 $1.8 trillion in one day.

00:01:36.000 I think we're going to go through some turbulence.

00:01:37.000 10 year bond all over the place.

00:01:40.000 They're waiting for the cuts from Doge,

00:01:43.000 waiting to see if we can balance this budget.

00:01:47.000 CNBC this morning had a guy on,

00:01:49.000 one of the backbenchers,

00:01:51.000 talking about dynamic scoring.

00:01:53.000 We're going to get into this

00:01:54.000 because I know you want the receipts.

00:01:55.000 Dynamic scoring versus the way CBO does it

00:01:58.000 and the way OMB does it.

00:01:59.000 We're going to get into it.

00:02:01.000 Probably this afternoon,

00:02:03.000 to make sure that you're fully up to speed

00:02:04.000 on how you actually look at the math.

00:02:06.000 Okay?

00:02:07.000 To make sure we're not fooling each other

00:02:09.000 and we're not having happy talk,

00:02:10.000 but you're talking about hard cash.

00:02:14.000 How it really comes in

00:02:15.000 and how it really gets spent.

00:02:16.000 That's what President Trump,

00:02:17.000 he froze $3 trillion,

00:02:19.000 I think last night,

00:02:20.000 in the system.

00:02:21.000 USAID, all over.

00:02:23.000 He's stopping foreign aid,

00:02:24.000 he's stopping USAID,

00:02:25.000 he's stopping all kind of payments everywhere,

00:02:27.000 he's stopping everything except

00:02:28.000 Social Security and Medicare.

00:02:31.000 Boom.

00:02:32.000 He wants to see where it is in the system,

00:02:33.000 where it's going to go,

00:02:34.000 and the Doge guys, I think,

00:02:35.000 are all over this.

00:02:36.000 They're kind of like doing the line diagram,

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00:03:49.000 Ben Harnwell,

00:03:50.000 Ukraine.

00:03:51.000 So Raheem broke this story.

00:03:53.000 You've been all over

00:03:54.000 and you've been adamant

00:03:55.000 because you follow this for years.

00:03:56.000 We've been right on everything

00:03:57.000 we said about Ukraine

00:03:58.000 down to the fifth decimal place.

00:04:01.000 And now President Trump,

00:04:03.000 who opposed this war,

00:04:04.000 if you hadn't had the presidency stolen,

00:04:06.000 it wouldn't happen to be

00:04:08.000 1.8 million people

00:04:10.000 either not wounded

00:04:11.000 or alive

00:04:13.000 on the battlefields over there.

00:04:14.000 And you can tell

00:04:16.000 what the apparatus is doing.

00:04:17.000 Kagan's told you 0.99

00:04:18.000 they're trying to suck 0.99

00:04:19.000 President Trump in 0.97

00:04:20.000 to make it his conflict.

00:04:22.000 And he has to avoid that.

00:04:24.000 Because he's got this,

00:04:25.000 every institution in this city

00:04:27.000 is trying to force him to do that.

00:04:28.000 And you saw the Ukrainian papers,

00:04:30.000 you saw they've got

00:04:31.000 the 100-day plan.

00:04:33.000 What is your response

00:04:34.000 to that, Ben Harnwell,

00:04:35.000 given your seat

00:04:37.000 in the eternal city

00:04:39.000 and watching this like a hawk?

00:04:42.000 Good morning, Steve.

00:04:43.000 Good morning, Steve.

00:04:44.000 Well, it's not good news

00:04:45.000 for the war room posse.

00:04:46.000 And I'm going to go straight

00:04:47.000 into the killer line here.

00:04:48.000 Because the proposal's here.

00:04:50.000 And it's basically the Kellogg plan,

00:04:53.000 Lieutenant General Kellogg's plan

00:04:55.000 that's been leaked to the press

00:04:57.000 over the last four weeks or so.

00:05:00.000 There are some interesting things,

00:05:01.000 however, in this that I haven't read elsewhere.

00:05:03.000 And I'll go into those in just a moment.

00:05:05.000 But the war room posse is going to want to know

00:05:08.000 where the meat is,

00:05:09.000 why I don't like this,

00:05:10.000 why I would vote down, vote this.

00:05:13.000 If I had a vote on this,

00:05:14.000 it would be a vote down straight away.

00:05:16.000 Because the key point here for Americans

00:05:18.000 is that Ukraine would continue to receive

00:05:21.000 military support from the US.

00:05:24.000 And that, I think, is something that's going

00:05:26.000 to be offensive to a lot of people

00:05:28.000 who were listening to you talking

00:05:29.000 just earlier on in the show.

00:05:30.000 The American economy is bleeding out.

00:05:33.000 There is no money for this.

00:05:35.000 And yet the money,

00:05:36.000 you're going to see more budget lines,

00:05:38.000 more budget arguments

00:05:41.000 over the coming months and years

00:05:42.000 to get this military support to Ukraine.

00:05:45.000 Okay, but let's talk about the process

00:05:49.000 that they're talking about.

00:05:51.000 They say immediate ceasefire by April 15th,

00:05:55.000 then the beginnings of a negotiated deal

00:05:58.000 by, I think, May.

00:06:00.000 They talk about a security guarantee,

00:06:02.000 American money,

00:06:03.000 but they don't mention any American troops.

00:06:05.000 So it's April 15th for a ceasefire.

00:06:06.000 I'm just trying to repeat what the press

00:06:08.000 is telling them.

00:06:09.000 They've clearly seen the American plan 0.93

00:06:12.000 or the discussions of Kellogg

00:06:14.000 and other people.

00:06:15.000 So it's April for a ceasefire.

00:06:17.000 Is that it?

00:06:18.000 And then May for a more general framework

00:06:20.000 of an agreement?

00:06:21.000 Formally, it's April the 20th

00:06:24.000 for the declaration of the ceasefire.

00:06:27.000 And in the preceding weeks,

00:06:29.000 there were supposed to be phone calls

00:06:31.000 between the White House and President Putin

00:06:33.000 and the White House and President Zelensky

00:06:35.000 to get to that declaration of ceasefire.

00:06:38.000 And then before May the 9th,

00:06:40.000 after the ceasefire,

00:06:42.000 there will be an international peace conference

00:06:44.000 which is going to hammer out the terms

00:06:46.000 of the treaty, the peace treaty.

00:06:49.000 And that text should be released

00:06:52.000 around May the 9th.

00:06:53.000 Now, here are the interesting things, Steve.

00:06:55.000 You asked about the process.

00:06:56.000 What's in here?

00:06:58.000 There are some...

00:06:59.000 The Warren policy will be interested in

00:07:01.000 in some of the things I think

00:07:02.000 General Kellogg is pushing here.

00:07:04.000 For example, right?

00:07:06.000 After May the 9th,

00:07:08.000 Kyiv would be asked not to extend martial law

00:07:11.000 or to mobilise any further troops.

00:07:13.000 Now, if you're saying, hang on, hang on,

00:07:15.000 why would the Americans be pushing that?

00:07:17.000 What's the importance of martial law?

00:07:19.000 Well, the first thing you're going to think about

00:07:21.000 is that under the present constitution,

00:07:23.000 or that goes back to the 90s,

00:07:25.000 that you can't have any elections

00:07:28.000 in Ukraine under martial law.

00:07:29.000 We know this.

00:07:30.000 We've discussed this hundreds of times.

00:07:32.000 And if you're thinking, well, you know,

00:07:34.000 are the Americans here manoeuvring something

00:07:37.000 to have elections in Ukraine?

00:07:39.000 If that was your suspicion,

00:07:41.000 you might be interested to read something else

00:07:43.000 that is here in these proposals,

00:07:45.000 that Kyiv, under the terms of this agreement,

00:07:48.000 would have to allow parties advocating

00:07:51.000 for peace with Russia to run in those elections.

00:07:55.000 And of course, those parties

00:07:56.000 have all been prohibited for the last three years.

00:07:59.000 So it seems to me very likely

00:08:01.000 that one of the aspects of this,

00:08:03.000 and by the way, President Zelensky,

00:08:05.000 his office has said this is not a valid peace proposal

00:08:09.000 that they've received on the Americans.

00:08:11.000 It's been created probably by the Russians 1.00

00:08:14.000 to destabilize the situation.

00:08:16.000 I can, you know,

00:08:17.000 I can't particularly see Ukraine going for this

00:08:20.000 because it gives Russia everything it wants,

00:08:23.000 specifically in terms of the Donbass

00:08:26.000 and some people are referring to buffer zones.

00:08:29.000 It's not buffer zones.

00:08:30.000 It's quite clear that Ukraine 0.96

00:08:32.000 would officially recognize the sovereignty

00:08:34.000 of Russia in those zones,

00:08:38.000 which is pretty much the gold mission

00:08:40.000 that comes from the Russian point of view.

00:08:43.000 Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:08:44.000 Whoa, whoa, slow down.

00:08:46.000 The buffer zones, because remember,

00:08:48.000 this is a paper that goes Ukrainian.

00:08:50.000 Essentially, what this thing says

00:08:52.000 is they're going to partition Ukraine.

00:08:54.000 I hate to use such a harsh term,

00:08:57.000 but Ukraine would be, according to this,

00:09:00.000 would end up being partitioned,

00:09:01.000 not just the Donbass, but potentially other areas

00:09:05.000 where Russian army, and this is the Ukrainians

00:09:09.000 moving back from Kursk, right?

00:09:11.000 They're in Kursk there.

00:09:13.000 But other parts of Ukrainian territory,

00:09:15.000 it looks like it would be partitioned under Russian control.

00:09:18.000 Am I reading that correctly, sir?

00:09:20.000 Look, I think it goes further than that,

00:09:23.000 because when you hear about partition,

00:09:24.000 perhaps you think of Berlin,

00:09:26.000 perhaps you think of the division

00:09:28.000 between the demilitarized zone

00:09:30.000 between North Korea, South Korea.

00:09:32.000 This is, from my understanding

00:09:34.000 of this supposedly leaked text,

00:09:37.000 what it's actually doing is

00:09:38.000 it's handing those areas that Russia controls

00:09:40.000 officially over to Russia.

00:09:43.000 They would become part of the Russian Federation.

00:09:45.000 And I think that goes further than what is ordinarily

00:09:49.000 understood by partitioning.

00:09:51.000 Some of the alternative plans, right?

00:09:55.000 Not the Kellogg plan.

00:09:57.000 You had the Vance plan,

00:09:59.000 and you had the Rick Grinnell plan.

00:10:03.000 Those would be more like what J.D. Vance had asked for,

00:10:07.000 suggested was a demilitarized zone,

00:10:10.000 and what Grinnell had suggested was autonomous zones.

00:10:14.000 Now that could, if you'd have found a way,

00:10:17.000 a mechanism to recognize that in international law,

00:10:20.000 that would be more partitioned territory.

00:10:22.000 This is just giving it to Russia, this proposal. 0.77

00:10:26.000 But hang on.

00:10:28.000 In this proposal that's out,

00:10:31.000 it's like, what was the purpose?

00:10:34.000 Boris Johnson, as we said in War Room

00:10:36.000 on the evening before the war started,

00:10:38.000 what's the purpose?

00:10:40.000 It's not just Donbass and Crimea's gone,

00:10:42.000 which Zelensky swore up and down,

00:10:44.000 they never would have happened,

00:10:45.000 but correct me if I'm wrong,

00:10:46.000 and I'm just reading it like any other Schmendrick.

00:10:49.000 But it looks like other territories,

00:10:52.000 historically where the Russian army goes,

00:10:55.000 they kind of stay for a while.

00:10:56.000 Like in Eastern Europe, I don't know,

00:10:58.000 for 50 years,

00:10:59.000 until the fall of the Berlin Wall.

00:11:01.000 And I don't care how many Czech revolts 1.00

00:11:03.000 and how many Hungarian revolts you had,

00:11:05.000 they were there until the Berlin Wall,

00:11:06.000 until the Berlin Wall,

00:11:08.000 until Ronald Reagan took it down.

00:11:10.000 The Russian army has been in this place,

00:11:12.000 and it looks like according to this

00:11:14.000 that they may not keep all of it,

00:11:16.000 they're going to keep a lot more

00:11:17.000 than the Donbass and the Crimea.

00:11:18.000 Do you agree with that, Ben Harnwell,

00:11:20.000 as you read this?

00:11:21.000 Yeah, the Russians would have everything. 0.97

00:11:24.000 I repeat the point that according

00:11:26.000 to my reading of this,

00:11:28.000 and it's in quotation marks,

00:11:30.000 that Ukraine would officially recognize

00:11:32.000 the sovereignty of the Russian Federation

00:11:35.000 over those occupied territories.

00:11:38.000 So that would be shifting the border

00:11:40.000 effectively eastwards.

00:11:41.000 So McConnell and all the...

00:11:43.000 I just want to make sure...

00:11:44.000 I'm going to rub...

00:11:45.000 No, I'm going to put salt in another wound for the...

00:11:47.000 They sat there and took a quarter

00:11:48.000 of a trillion dollars of your money,

00:11:50.000 250 billion dollars,

00:11:52.000 that we've had no accounting for,

00:11:53.000 and trust me, 0.90

00:11:54.000 those oligarchs and that crook Zelensky 0.97

00:11:56.000 were stealing with both hands. 0.98

00:11:58.000 You got a million...

00:11:59.000 This is according to President Trump.

00:12:00.000 You got a million dead or wounded Ukrainians.

00:12:02.000 You got 700,000,

00:12:03.000 750,000 dead or wounded Russians.

00:12:06.000 So we're at a million seven

00:12:08.000 dead or wounded.

00:12:09.000 The place looks like Dresden.

00:12:10.000 And now you're in a situation

00:12:12.000 that you get a worse deal,

00:12:13.000 that we told you you would.

00:12:15.000 You get a worse deal with the Russians. 1.00

00:12:16.000 What was it worth?

00:12:18.000 Do you understand why the parents

00:12:21.000 of the 18 to 26-year-olds

00:12:24.000 have said, over my dead body,

00:12:25.000 you're taking my son to go to that front?

00:12:27.000 Because this is where we are.

00:12:30.000 This catastrophe is exactly

00:12:33.000 like Mersheimer said it,

00:12:35.000 just like it's repeated

00:12:36.000 by Raheem Kassam and Ben Harnwell

00:12:38.000 and Stephen K. Bannon on this show

00:12:40.000 and Jack Posobiec for three years.

00:12:44.000 This is an outrage.

00:12:47.000 By the way, it's probably

00:12:48.000 the best deal they can get.

00:12:49.000 As we said, this was all for nothing

00:12:51.000 except for the arm manufacturers

00:12:53.000 and Victoria Newland-Kagan

00:12:55.000 and to cover up whatever

00:12:57.000 in the hills.

00:12:58.000 I said this, and folks,

00:12:59.000 it's going to happen.

00:13:00.000 When you lance the boil

00:13:02.000 that is Ukraine,

00:13:04.000 there's going to be some 0.99

00:13:05.000 puss coming out of there. 0.92

00:13:07.000 Hey, Fauci, all these pardons 0.91

00:13:10.000 don't go back to 2014.

00:13:12.000 You see a connected dot?

00:13:14.000 It's when Raheem Kassam was over there

00:13:16.000 for Breitbart London

00:13:17.000 for the color revolution.

00:13:18.000 It all goes back to,

00:13:20.000 that's a real hit of a lot,

00:13:21.000 a lot of filth.

00:13:23.000 And we're going to get

00:13:24.000 to the bottom of it.

00:13:26.000 The people that are guilty

00:13:28.000 of this crime

00:13:29.000 and their war criminals 0.90

00:13:30.000 are the people in Brussels,

00:13:32.000 in NATO,

00:13:33.000 in the European Union,

00:13:34.000 in Washington, D.C.,

00:13:36.000 in the Atlantic Magazine,

00:13:37.000 MSNBC.

00:13:39.000 Oh, where's all your cheerleading now? 0.59

00:13:41.000 How come you're not talking

00:13:42.000 about this article? 0.92

00:13:43.000 You people are revolting.

00:13:47.000 You did exactly

00:13:48.000 what Mersheimer said.

00:13:49.000 You're going to lead

00:13:50.000 the Ukrainian people

00:13:51.000 down the primrose path

00:13:52.000 until it gets too tough for you.

00:13:54.000 And then you're going

00:13:55.000 to abandon them.

00:13:57.000 Because you're already fighting,

00:13:58.000 you've already fought

00:13:59.000 until the last Ukrainians dead.

00:14:02.000 Ben, I got to bounce.

00:14:03.000 Where do people go?

00:14:04.000 We'll get you back on,

00:14:05.000 not tonight, tomorrow.

00:14:06.000 Give me your,

00:14:07.000 give me your,

00:14:08.000 we'll do more work on this.

00:14:09.000 This is revolting.

00:14:10.000 This is a disgrace.

00:14:11.000 And anybody associated with it,

00:14:12.000 it ought to be turfed out.

00:14:15.000 What's your,

00:14:16.000 what's your social media been?

00:14:18.000 On getter Steve,

00:14:19.000 simply my surname,

00:14:20.000 two very, very essential points.

00:14:22.000 Also in this,

00:14:23.000 in this treaty will be

00:14:24.000 the consideration

00:14:25.000 of the reconstruction

00:14:26.000 of Ukraine.

00:14:27.000 What we've called on this show,

00:14:28.000 their mother of all grits,

00:14:29.000 which will be largely handed over

00:14:31.000 to the EU.

00:14:32.000 I have to close with this point.

00:14:33.000 Donald Trump,

00:14:34.000 however,

00:14:35.000 if they call his bluff,

00:14:36.000 he's on this conveyor belt.

00:14:37.000 Now he's not going

00:14:38.000 to get off this.

00:14:39.000 If he follows this down,

00:14:40.000 if Russia or China,

00:14:41.000 or even,

00:14:42.000 or even Zelensky called his bluff,

00:14:43.000 he's going all the way in on this.

00:14:45.000 No.

00:14:46.000 Yeah.

00:14:47.000 No, he won't.

00:14:48.000 He's going to stand tall on this.

00:14:49.000 He has nothing to do with this.

00:14:50.000 His hands are clean.

00:14:53.000 Clean.

00:14:54.000 Short break.

00:14:55.000 big victory on five November.

00:15:02.000 Now the work can finally start

00:15:04.000 on the big issues facing the country.

00:15:06.000 One of the biggest is the national debt

00:15:08.000 and the deficits that drive it.

00:15:11.000 Hey, you think the country's broke?

00:15:12.000 The country is broke.

00:15:13.000 We're just printing money

00:15:15.000 to keep this house of cards going.

00:15:18.000 The strategy remains the same for you.

00:15:20.000 You got to diversify,

00:15:21.000 diversify your savings.

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00:16:25.000 let me have Frank Gaffney and John Guandola join us.

00:16:28.000 But I want to go first to the White House

00:16:31.000 and our own Natalie Winters.

00:16:33.000 Natalie's taking on a new assignment for the War Room.

00:16:36.000 That's simply going to be co-hosting our executive editor

00:16:39.000 and chief researcher.

00:16:40.000 She's also going to take on the responsibilities

00:16:42.000 of our White House correspondent.

00:16:44.000 Natalie, the mainstream media, I'm sure,

00:16:46.000 is welcoming you with open arms today.

00:16:50.000 I know Brian Glenn's over there for Real America's Voice,

00:16:52.000 but are you guys getting nothing but stink eye today?

00:16:56.000 Yeah, I don't exactly think all the people

00:16:57.000 that you were just outlining

00:16:59.000 who need to have, what, criminal charges and referrals,

00:17:01.000 the people that I'm about 50 feet away from

00:17:04.000 are necessarily too happy that the War Room

00:17:06.000 now has me being obviously a voice,

00:17:09.000 not just in terms of asking questions,

00:17:11.000 but I think sort of observing the mainstream press corps

00:17:13.000 and what they're doing here in the room,

00:17:15.000 where it's happening, of course,

00:17:16.000 with the first press briefing

00:17:18.000 with none other than Caroline Leavitt happening today

00:17:20.000 at 1 p.m.

00:17:22.000 But until then, you can see,

00:17:23.000 I think this probably has to be the most epic background

00:17:26.000 that I've ever had.

00:17:27.000 And I have to say, Steve,

00:17:28.000 just on a personal note of reflection,

00:17:30.000 you were just talking about, you know,

00:17:32.000 Professor Meersheimer,

00:17:33.000 who was someone that I had

00:17:34.000 while I was a student at the University of Chicago,

00:17:36.000 and I look how far I've come, you've come,

00:17:38.000 the show has come,

00:17:39.000 but most importantly, this audience has come.

00:17:41.000 I'm so honored and privileged to be standing here

00:17:44.000 as War Room's new White House correspondent,

00:17:46.000 but this is an ability and privilege

00:17:48.000 that I have only because of this audience,

00:17:50.000 and I don't just mean because the president loves them

00:17:53.000 and obviously the press office was instrumental

00:17:55.000 in getting me in here,

00:17:56.000 but they know that this audience is the audience

00:17:58.000 that moves the needle, 0.91

00:18:00.000 and that's why they want War Room, myself,

00:18:02.000 here, in the room, where it's happening.

00:18:04.000 More importantly, I think,

00:18:05.000 to cover what the mainstream press is doing

00:18:07.000 and the resistance, opposition,

00:18:08.000 however they want to term it,

00:18:09.000 but I think this is a really, really consequential

00:18:12.000 and important day for War Room.

00:18:13.000 When you just look behind me,

00:18:15.000 you can see how far we've come,

00:18:16.000 so thank you from the bottom of my heart.

00:18:18.000 This is really cool, still surreal,

00:18:19.000 and I'm kind of taking it all in.

00:18:21.000 You started with us really with National Pulse.

00:18:25.000 Raheem was the co-

00:18:27.000 Remember, we start with Jason Miller and Raheem.

00:18:29.000 Jason Miller, the comms director

00:18:30.000 and strategist for the campaign.

00:18:31.000 Jason's going to stay on the outside and not go in.

00:18:33.000 But some of his colleagues, Taylor Bodevich,

00:18:36.000 you got Steven Chung.

00:18:37.000 Steven used to be with us for years.

00:18:40.000 And you've got, of course, Caroline Leavitt,

00:18:42.000 who we broke here in when she was running 0.90

00:18:45.000 in that heated primary

00:18:47.000 and was just so fantastic up in New Hampshire.

00:18:49.000 But you started with Raheem when he was co-anchor here.

00:18:52.000 I think you were an intern.

00:18:53.000 Weren't you like 17 years old as an intern?

00:18:55.000 Well, we don't want to violate any child labor laws.

00:18:58.000 I was 18, for sure.

00:19:00.000 Was Harvard at Westlake do what?

00:19:03.000 Do what?

00:19:05.000 I said we don't want to violate any child labor laws,

00:19:10.000 so I was definitely over 18,

00:19:12.000 but I think just barely.

00:19:14.000 He was just an intern.

00:19:16.000 But you know what?

00:19:17.000 Unbelievable.

00:19:18.000 It's quite moving.

00:19:19.000 I know rarely am I at a loss for words,

00:19:21.000 but to be standing here.

00:19:23.000 I mean, Steve, think about it.

00:19:24.000 What was it?

00:19:25.000 I mean, two years ago, three years ago,

00:19:27.000 we were being smeared as the number one spreaders of misinformation.

00:19:30.000 You were in prison not too long ago.

00:19:33.000 Our entire audience was censored and deplatformed.

00:19:36.000 And look how far we've come.

00:19:37.000 It's a testament to this audience.

00:19:39.000 But also, Steve, more importantly, I think so much of what we've been focusing on lately,

00:19:44.000 the resistance, the concept of civil society,

00:19:46.000 how they're going to push back because they do have no levers of power,

00:19:49.000 and the media is going to be the hotbed of resistance.

00:19:52.000 So I pledge to this audience, of course, I'll be covering what President Trump is doing,

00:19:56.000 but more importantly, what the mainstream media is doing in terms of lying and deceit

00:20:00.000 and the narratives that they're going to be crafting to try to neuter

00:20:03.000 and nullify President Trump's America First agenda.

00:20:07.000 You know, this goes back, it's a hat tip to Susie Wiles and La Cervita,

00:20:10.000 who on the campaign with Jason understood that power had shifted from mainstream media

00:20:16.000 to now the podcast, the streaming services,

00:20:19.000 and they made a big effort to make sure everybody was involved.

00:20:22.000 That was in the campaign, and it paid off in space.

00:20:24.000 Then, thinking through how you actually cover this White House with the flood, the zone,

00:20:28.000 there's so much going on.

00:20:29.000 We started the show with a seven-minute cold open on just all these amazing things President Trump's doing.

00:20:36.000 And you can tell right now, Natalie, there are half a dozen to 10 things every day that almost get no coverage.

00:20:43.000 That's what we're here to do is to make sure with Real America's Voice you're going to understand it all and get it all.

00:20:49.000 But I think what Taylor and Stephen Chung and Carolyn Levitt have done is brilliant

00:20:55.000 because they've really allowed the podcasts and the streaming services that really will put the resources like we did on Friday.

00:21:00.000 And I had even, you know, Brian Glenn did such a magnificent job, Real America's Voice.

00:21:05.000 Amanda Head on the West Coast.

00:21:07.000 But, like, even MTG came to me.

00:21:09.000 She says, hey, I was riveted to the coverage, and I know the folks in the White House.

00:21:13.000 That's the, you know, Rob Sieg and Parker, Brian Glenn, Amanda Head, John Solomon, War Room,

00:21:19.000 Posobiec, Charlie Kirk.

00:21:21.000 We're going to put immense amount of effort to make sure the full story is told because it's such a major, major inflection in American history.

00:21:29.000 And we're putting our best talent there.

00:21:31.000 Amanda Head, Natalie Winters, Brian Glenn.

00:21:35.000 We're going to be announcing other people up on Capitol Hill.

00:21:37.000 We're putting full resources because the story's kind of shifted, right?

00:21:41.000 We were in the outs for years and years and years and fought back.

00:21:44.000 And we put you, whether it's in the border, et cetera, we're still going to be in those places.

00:21:48.000 But the center of gravity of the story has shifted to Washington, D.C.

00:21:52.000 And Natalie, who's been such a superstar, is going to be there telling the story and getting to the facts as long as you can tell them.

00:21:59.000 But one thing, just about the action, you know, last night he froze the $3 trillion.

00:22:04.000 He's doing all the stuff with the military.

00:22:06.000 The Marines go to the border.

00:22:08.000 Even Abbott sends $400.

00:22:10.000 He's got Kristi Noem today is kicking down doors in New York City and arresting people. 1.00

00:22:15.000 Just the level of activity emanating from the White House must make it a place that you can just feel the energy when you're there.

00:22:23.000 I know you've got dark energy, negative energy by the media who are being crushed.

00:22:27.000 And Acosta just left.

00:22:29.000 CNN got fired, essentially.

00:22:31.000 He just had some nasty stuff saved by President Trump, as you can imagine.

00:22:34.000 But the energy coming out of there, Natalie, put us in a rumor, in this case, the lawn.

00:22:40.000 Sure.

00:22:41.000 Well, as I was walking in, there's massive protests going on outside.

00:22:44.000 I'm not exactly sure what they're over.

00:22:47.000 I think it has something to do with either the Palestine stuff or the mass deportations.

00:22:50.000 But, I mean, I think, Steve, to the point that you were making, you know, there is definitely an undertone, an undercurrent.

00:22:57.000 I feel that Brian Glenn feels that of the sort of legacy media, the mainstream press not wanting us here, sort of scoffing at us, which I'll take it.

00:23:04.000 I don't really care.

00:23:05.000 I've never cared what they thought.

00:23:06.000 But to that point, right, when you see MSNBC melting down about the inspector generals being fired or certain DOJ apparatchiks being removed,

00:23:15.000 I would argue every person who's smiling in that video of Merrick Garland leaving should have grounds for termination.

00:23:21.000 But these people have failed.

00:23:22.000 I'm not just talking for decades, but certainly for the last four years.

00:23:26.000 So if anyone from the mainstream press has an issue with me being here or with Warren being here, I would simply say you guys covered up for four years a president who literally was so out to lunch, 0.98

00:23:36.000 he wasn't making any decisions, and he wasn't reachable even by his own damn vice president. 0.52

00:23:40.000 So if you really want to make the case that what you guys were doing was such a wonderful job, I'd just point you to that Wall Street Journal report. 0.98

00:23:46.000 And I'd say I think that is all the evidence you need as to why we need a new era, a new, shall we say, golden age of media and reporting here coming from the White House.

00:23:55.000 But to your point about flooding the zone, Jen Psaki literally played the clip of you from that PBS Frontline interview in 2020 last night saying that that's still their tactic.

00:24:03.000 That's still exactly what they're doing. But make no mistake, I think the counterpoint to flooding the zone, you see that you see that reciprocity in terms of what the resistance is trying to do.

00:24:13.000 I know that story you love to talk about in the Wall Street Journal, how they prematurely leaked about those mass deportations and the raids.

00:24:19.000 I would wager I'd be very curious if I were wrong on this, but I'm very confident that the intel from that story came from the ACLU.

00:24:28.000 They've been really, really heavily handed in their FOIA requests and trying to get to the bottom of detention centers and the sort of logistics of these raids and mass deportations.

00:24:37.000 They've been bragging about it. They've launched a bunch of new programs.

00:24:40.000 They've, of course, been suing everyone and their mother, whether it's the birthright citizenship, the mass deportation stuff.

00:24:45.000 Even right now, as we're speaking, actively lobbying governors and state and local level officials to give state level pardons for criminal illegal aliens that is convicted criminal illegal aliens.

00:24:57.000 So they won't be subject to what is the current purview of a lot of these mass deportation raids.

00:25:02.000 So I think that while it's great to focus on what they're not covering from the Trump administration, make no mistake that the sort of resistance wing of the Democrat Party is an overdrive.

00:25:11.000 And to that point, even Norm Eisen, the State United Democracy defenders, I believe it was just into the first few minutes of President Trump's terms, term that three lawsuits were already filed against the constitutionality of Doge.

00:25:23.000 Norm Eisen actually applied to be a member of Doge. I'm not kidding. Seriously.

00:25:28.000 And under those grounds, they're saying that that was discrimination, that they did not accept Norm Eisen's application to be involved with Doge.

00:25:35.000 So they're trying to now sort of come and nuke and neuter Doge through that angle.

00:25:40.000 So they are firing on all cylinders when it comes to lawfare. It didn't go anywhere.

00:25:44.000 They're just rebranding. But like I said, I'm so honored and privileged, despite all the nasty stares that I'm getting as I'm calling out my new evil America last America hating colleagues, I guess, though I don't want to demean myself by calling them my colleagues, how they're going to cover it up and run cover for people who are trying to sabotage President Trump.

00:26:03.000 Remember, ma'am, none of that crowd got to the University of Chicago with the grade you got in three years while you you held down a full time job here.

00:26:15.000 Just remember that. Just be like Scott Besson with those Democrats.

00:26:18.000 As soon as they as soon as it's just misinformation, so misinformation, Natalie, great job.

00:26:26.000 Or they've ever filled in for someone who was in prison.

00:26:29.000 So I'll take that. Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms.

00:26:33.000 And thank you so much for the audience.

00:26:35.000 I know I wouldn't be standing here if it weren't for you guys and the power of the war room posse.

00:26:39.000 So I'm deeply humble and grateful.

00:26:41.000 And I wish all of you could be here with me.

00:26:43.000 But maybe that's too cruel a punishment.

00:26:44.000 But thank you, Steve.

00:26:45.000 I'll talk to you soon.

00:26:48.000 Okay, ma'am.

00:26:49.000 Brian Glenn's there, Real America's Voice.

00:26:50.000 Amanda Head's going to be there for John Solomon. 0.99

00:26:52.000 We're going to cover this.

00:26:53.000 So much to cover.

00:26:54.000 Plus, we're going to have people on Capitol Hill.

00:26:56.000 So kind of shifting the center of gravity and a hat tip to the communications staff,

00:27:00.000 who I think realizes the power of the streaming services and the power of the podcast to really get the word out and to do the types of hard work is necessary to get things done.

00:27:12.000 And to make sure that people understand what's going on.

00:27:15.000 We're going to take a short break.

00:27:18.000 Frank Gaffney, two of my favorite people, Frank Gaffney and John Gondola.

00:27:22.000 I think there's been something lost.

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00:27:27.000 Because, you know, Rahim and Frank and I and John have been at this.

00:27:30.000 I've been at it, I don't know, for almost 20 years.

00:27:34.000 I guess I made my first film about this on Reagan in this back in 2004.

00:27:39.000 So about 20 years, 20 years, something's getting lost in this conversation about the Middle East.

00:27:45.000 And I think we've got to do a little bit, not a reset, but just kind of make sure everything's on the table when we talk about it.

00:27:51.000 Because there's a lot of vitriol and people are, you know, having hard feelings.

00:27:55.000 No need to have hard feelings.

00:27:56.000 But I think we've got to put the context of what's going on over there.

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00:29:38.000 Okay.

00:29:39.000 To get going, I want people to understand two people are going to be up Thursday.

00:29:43.000 And so I'm going to hold this for 5 o'clock.

00:29:46.000 But I'm now aware that I think it was NBC News or someone broke the story this morning about Kash Patel on some whistleblower from the FBI about some incident.

00:29:57.000 Complete nonsense.

00:29:59.000 The Warren Posse and Grace, we're going to have the Bill Blaster. 0.98

00:30:02.000 We'll get Mike Davis with Article 3.

00:30:04.000 We got work to do on going to the ramparts for cash.

00:30:07.000 I'm just informed now that the New York Times is getting ready to publish this afternoon a major hit piece on our own Tulsi Gabbard.

00:30:16.000 And it's also filled with false information, but we will be manning.

00:30:20.000 So the 5 to 7 tonight will tee off just like we did for Pete Hexeth, just like we did for Gates, although Gates pulled out,

00:30:27.000 just like we've done for everybody, for Pam Bondi, the whole crew.

00:30:30.000 We're going to have work to do this afternoon.

00:30:32.000 Grace will be on watch.

00:30:34.000 I'll get Mike Davis over here.

00:30:36.000 But we're going to have to let Capitol Hill know what we think about this.

00:30:40.000 This is one of our great functions here in the war room.

00:30:42.000 So 5 to 7, both Tulsi Gabbard and Kash Patel.

00:30:46.000 They're coming in on Thursday for their hearings, and they intend to chop both of those great patriots up, and we will not tolerate it here in the war room.

00:30:55.000 Frank Gaffney, Frank, you and I have worked on this project for 20 years.

00:30:59.000 John Guandola also in a professional capacity over the FBI as a trainer.

00:31:04.000 Raheem Kassam in the no-go zones.

00:31:07.000 You were banned at Fox for – banned for CPAC first and then banned at Fox for talking about what Elon Musk has just gotten famous for over the last couple of weeks.

00:31:18.000 They took Gaffney off the TV I think still now over 10 years.

00:31:23.000 But, Frank, something is getting lost, and people I really respect, Tucker Carlson, Kurt Mills, other people I consider close colleagues and smart guys and others.

00:31:31.000 There's kind of this range war going on about Israel and about the Middle East and everything.

00:31:35.000 I just want to make sure and to reset what you and I have kind of dedicated – you've dedicated your life.

00:31:41.000 It's going to be a big part of my life, not just being anti-CCP but being anti-Sharia supremacy, and particularly in the Middle East now with the geopolitics, the great power of politics, and you have the rise of really the Turkish, the Ottoman Empire. 0.89

00:31:56.000 You have the Persians still in play, the Egyptians, and you've got Qatar, and you and I have worked on this forever.

00:32:04.000 And this is President Trump.

00:32:05.000 We went to Riyadh for a reason on the first trip President Trump took, Riyadh, Jerusalem, and Rome in that order.

00:32:13.000 And I was one of the architects of that and recommended we go in that order, and President Trump addressed the Muslim nations.

00:32:19.000 And we have a memorandum of understanding of terrorism finance, and Qatar refused to sign it and came up with all kind of excuses.

00:32:27.000 It's a nest of vipers over there.

00:32:29.000 I just think we're missing the context that you can't talk about Israel and the other nations.

00:32:34.000 You can't talk about – and we're not – I'm not saying – I'm not a land – I served over there in the North Arabian Sea in the Persian Gulf during the hostage crisis in the workup for the raid.

00:32:45.000 So I've got some skin in the game, but I'm not a – let's go to land war with Persia. 1.00

00:32:51.000 Let's go bomb them. 0.93

00:32:52.000 I'm saying you have to contextualize this. 0.99

00:32:55.000 This has to be in this construct of a – not Islam, but a radical form of Islam that is supremacist. 0.91

00:33:04.000 And Qatar sees a play here with Turkey in Persia to take over essentially the Gulf Emirates and to take over the two holy sites and to have Turkey run it under their auspices.

00:33:16.000 And Israel is going to get caught in a pincer move here. 0.55

00:33:19.000 It's obvious to me what's going on, and that's why I think we have to start having a conversation that puts the strategic context in what's happening in Europe and what's happening in Rotherham, all in context.

00:33:29.000 Frank Gaffney.

00:33:30.000 Well, Steve, let me just start by saying thank you for your lifetime of service on this cause.

00:33:36.000 You're right.

00:33:37.000 There's been an enormous amount of efforts, and John Guandolo is the scars to show it as do I, to suppress the kind of information that we're going to share here.

00:33:45.000 And I couldn't be more grateful, not only that Natalie's got her gig, but that your show is, as she said, this incredible opportunity for people to learn the truth.

00:33:56.000 And let me just acknowledge one other piece of your service, sir.

00:33:59.000 I believe it was the day after you took over as the campaign chairman of the presidential campaign of Donald Trump in 2016, August 15th, 2016 to be precise, that he went to Youngstown, Ohio.

00:34:15.000 And he laid out in what I consider to be one of his finest speeches ever, essentially an agenda for both understanding the nature.

00:34:25.000 He didn't call it Sharia supremacism.

00:34:27.000 I think that's what it is, but he called it radical Islamic terrorism.

00:34:31.000 And he suggested the specific things we have to do, including stopping importing more of those who are practitioners of it.

00:34:41.000 What a concept.

00:34:42.000 As well as rooting out, stripping the support networks that these guys use in our country.

00:34:52.000 And John Guandolo, my dear friend and great freedom fighter, has learned and understood and taught more about all of this than anybody.

00:35:02.000 So I'll leave it to him to talk a little bit more about how the Muslim Brotherhood features into this.

00:35:06.000 But suffice it to say, our Victory Coalition, which you've encouraged us to establish,

00:35:11.000 VictoryCo.org is where you can find more about it, is meant to be a vehicle for doing precisely this kind of public education.

00:35:20.000 And whether it's guys who are professing that they want to have restraint and that that's really what Donald Trump is all about, when in fact it's about retreat.

00:35:32.000 You talk about the 80s, Ronald Reagan was responding to what the Henry Kissinger's and the Graham Allison's and the like, you know, thought we ought to do to retreat from inevitable defeat at the hands of the Soviet Union.

00:35:46.000 Reagan wanted no part of it.

00:35:48.000 I don't believe Donald Trump has been elected to sound retreat.

00:35:53.000 And I have a piece up at Gate Stone and hopefully shortly at the War Room platform on this subject.

00:36:00.000 He was elected by the American people to once again practice peace through strength.

00:36:06.000 I personally think that the guys who have been able to get inside the wire from the Koch empire at the Defense Department don't get this.

00:36:14.000 But you do.

00:36:15.000 I think Donald Trump does.

00:36:17.000 And I think he's not going to want him anywhere near his policymaking apparatus when he finds out that they're there.

00:36:22.000 You have to have a balance.

00:36:24.000 When you talk about restraint, you have to have a balance.

00:36:25.000 Remember, Trump, I fought in the National Security Council, adamantly fought the cruise missile attack on Syria because I said, hey, we haven't proved the case that he actually used chemical weapons.

00:36:38.000 Number one. Number two, this is just like the Clintons. Throw a couple of cruise missiles in there. 1.00

00:36:42.000 They'll be flying combat sorties the next day.

00:36:44.000 It just looks weak.

00:36:45.000 And they all cheered him on.

00:36:47.000 Morning Joe, David Ignatius.

00:36:49.000 They all want to get Trump into doing the standard thing.

00:36:51.000 President Trump eventually, as he got wiser in this, got rid of the John Boltons and the guys that wanted to light things up.

00:36:58.000 And I do agree with restraint. You have to be very, very careful when you think about this region.

00:37:03.000 And we spent too much blood. I'm a big pivot to Asia guy. 0.79

00:37:06.000 However, it can't be lost in you that Turkey's on the move right now. 0.93

00:37:11.000 I mean, Erdogan is the Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization and should be designated just like the Mexican cartels. 0.94

00:37:19.000 And I think far worse than the Mexican cartels. 0.99

00:37:21.000 They're a terrorist organization. And I tell people of all the all the work I got done in the White House and I got a lot done in those nine months.

00:37:28.000 The one I couldn't get any traction on at all is the Muslim Brothers terrorist organization.

00:37:33.000 The apparatus shut it down in Gondola.

00:37:35.000 You know, this Gondola, because you've been at the FBI and an instructor of how it's it's it's it's you know, we've got a problem with Muslim Brotherhood and we've got a problem with radical jihad. 0.79

00:37:46.000 You just saw in New Orleans, they took a guy drove a car down, a former army guy drove a car down and butchered, what, 10 people?

00:37:53.000 We this is a problem. It's not it's not really getting better.

00:37:56.000 You can put your head in the sand and think it's getting better, but it's not.

00:37:59.000 John Gondola, your thoughts.

00:38:01.000 First of all, Steve, thanks again for having me.

00:38:04.000 I would say this, I think the not only is the American public lacking serious understanding of the threats, but understanding how well coordinated these threats are.

00:38:20.000 And the command and control from the international level down to the local mosque level in the United States is astounding from from a warfighting perspective and understanding that the global Islamic movement, and that's how they describe themselves, is at war with the West and with the United States. 0.98

00:38:42.000 So a few points. Number one, the largest terrorism financing trial in American history, the United States versus the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, which was adjudicated in Dallas, Texas in 2008, revealed that the most prominent Islamic organizations in the United States are, as a matter of fact and evidence, a part of an identifiable movement that seeks to overthrow on Islamic governments and impose

00:39:11.980 Sharia Islamic law on all people.

00:39:13.980 And we can look at, let's just look at one ruling from three organizations that tried to have their names removed from the unindicted co-conspirator list, ISNA, NAIT, and CAIR, the Islamic Society of North America, which until the US CMO was the largest Muslim Brotherhood umbrella group in the country, NAIT, North American Islamic Trust, the bank for the brotherhood in North America, and the last

00:39:41.800 remaining of the first remaining of the original four Hamas organizations, now there are a number of others, the Council on American Islamic Relations. That was formed by the Muslim Brotherhood's Palestine Committee, CAIR, which was Hamas in the United States. That's a matter of legal fact.

00:40:02.800 The ISNA, the Islamic Society of North America, has been their former vice president and president up until, he may still be sitting on it, but was one of the nine commissioners on the US Commission for International Religious Freedom under Mr. Biden.

00:40:20.500 He had received an award, the FBI Director's Award from James Comey. They participated in outreach with the FBI and the State Department. He was publicly thanked by Dick Durbin when he held his hearings on the, quote, civil rights of Muslims in America.

00:40:42.900 So, the very organizations, our leaders, at the national security staffs, down to state level and local level officials, including, quote, unquote, interfaith outreach, is all controlled by these guys.

00:40:57.700 The Islamic Society of North America, CAIR, and the International Institute of Islamic Thought, as well as, to some extent, the Islamic Circle in North America, control that the interfaith outreach in the United States where Muslims are involved.

00:41:11.160 You know, so when we look at this, and you look at the fact that you have, these are not, these groups we're talking about, these are not homegrown, regular old Islamic groups.

00:41:24.340 These are organizations that were created and are being controlled by hostile foreign powers, like Qatar, like Iran, like Saudi Arabia, like Pakistan, and the intelligence services.

00:41:37.060 Hang on, hang on. Hang on. You just said hostile. Hang on. You just said hostile powers. And you said Qatar, which we have a massive base in, right? And, you know, they're in back of, you know, Witkoff and these guys cutting this deal on Hamas.

00:41:53.640 And you just said the Saudis. And last time I looked, we're trying to get a deal with that in Israel. And we're, we've got troops all over the place. We're the defense of the House Assad. So you just called them hostile powers.

00:42:04.960 There must be a disconnect because the U.S. government, even under President Trump, is not treating these people like hostile powers.

00:42:11.620 How do you, you've got a minute. I'm going to take you to break. How do you back that up?

00:42:15.160 Well, first of all, if you look at who's funding, and there is plenty of evidence and testimony of the funding from Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Qatar, to Al Qaeda, ISIS, and the Muslim Brotherhood, to be sure.

00:42:31.420 I mean, who paid for most of the infrastructure here in the United States to be built of Saudi Arabia?

00:42:37.120 Okay. Hang on, John. Hang on. We're going to go to break. But there's a big, there's a big differentiation between Persia. And we got to start calling it Persia.

00:42:47.080 Young people today have seen 300. They understand the West, the Athens in Rome had an enemy. It was Persia. Calling it Iran, I think it confuses people. I really do. And I'm served over there.

00:42:58.580 Number one. Number two, Persia and, hang on, Persia and Pakistan are a different breed of cat than Saudi Arabia and Qatar. They're just totally different. You can't, you can't bunch them together. 1.00

00:43:09.960 Anyway, short commercial break. John Guondola, Frank Gaffney, the contextualization of what in the hell we're even doing in the Middle East. Short break. Back in a moment.

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00:44:49.860 Okay, we got a lot of work to do. Tulsi Gabbard, big hit piece coming in the New York Times.

00:44:55.000 The Cash Patel, that hit piece was where? It was exclusive. CBS News took a hit on Cash with this whistleblower.

00:45:03.540 It's all nonsense. We're going to get to that this afternoon.

00:45:06.660 We're going to get to Tulsi Gabbard. That's coming out, I think, in a while. I don't think the New York Times has published it yet.

00:45:12.220 Gaffney and Guandola, this is too serious. I can't jam this in. I don't want to jam it in.

00:45:17.240 We're going to have you back at 6 to go through this.

00:45:19.860 Frank, Gatestone is going to publish it this afternoon. So is War Room.

00:45:23.780 What time, approximately, where do they go to get the piece? Your social media first, and then I'll do John's.

00:45:30.040 Gatestone Institute has it up on their site right now. I think the War Room's now got it.

00:45:35.420 It's gatestoneinstitute.org. I want to thank Nina Rosenwald for helping get it up quickly.

00:45:41.740 That is a prime piece of reporting on the problem that we started with, Steve, the restraint versus retreat.

00:45:48.580 Great. I'm also at victoryco.org and Institute for the American Future. That's usfuture.org.

00:46:00.760 And Securing America, of course.

00:46:02.300 Perfect. I'll see you back here at 6. Remember, I'm a restraint guy that doesn't want retreat,

00:46:07.420 but I want to contextualize this to make sure people know the players, Persia, Turkey, Qatar, and others.

00:46:14.540 John, where do people go to catch up with everything you've been up to?

00:46:17.420 Yeah. So johnguandolo.com is the website, and jguandolo54271 on Twitter.

00:46:27.640 John Guandolo is one of the greatest patriots we have in this country, and man,

00:46:31.220 they have tried to screw his life up big time for being a hero and a patriot and fighting the good fight now for a couple of decades.

00:46:37.980 Guys, I'll see you back here at 6. Thank you.

00:46:40.060 Thanks, Steve.

00:46:40.520 Thank you, sir.

00:46:40.880 John Guandolo, if you knew the behind the scenes of what happened to guys like this,

00:46:45.180 the heroes that stepped up when it was not popular, this thing's a problem.

00:46:49.740 You have to put it in context.

00:46:51.220 The Muslim Brotherhood's a problem. 1.00

00:46:52.780 They're worse than the—bad as the cartels are, they're kind of limited. 0.98

00:46:57.140 They're getting bigger because of fentanyl and making money.

00:46:59.280 Of course, there's chemical warfare from the Chinese Communist Party. 0.99

00:47:02.880 Muslim Brotherhood is a major terrorist organization, full stop. 0.95

00:47:06.400 I don't want to hear how many schools and how many hospitals they're running. 0.99

00:47:10.760 That's all cover.

00:47:13.480 We'll get to that at 6.

00:47:14.940 But you can't—you always must put this thing in context, contextualize.

00:47:20.420 And I'm a pivot to—remember, I'm going to take down the CPD.

00:47:23.400 President Trump, I want to get out of the Middle East as quickly as you can get out of there.

00:47:26.200 But you've got to face realities about leaving or what you're defending in Europe and the United States.

00:47:33.680 Natalie Dominguez, what are we defending here, ma'am?

00:47:37.740 Because we need people at the ramparts.

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00:47:45.960 We get back here at 5 o'clock.

00:47:47.240 We tell you what's going on.

00:47:48.780 Break it all down for you.

00:47:50.220 But tomorrow and the next day, these hearings of Bobby Kennedy,

00:47:53.000 the hearings of Pam Bondi, and particularly Tulsi Gabbard and Cash,

00:47:56.680 they think Thursday they got the target on them.

00:47:59.500 We need to be the rampart.

00:48:01.000 And you can't sit there and have the angst of having somebody taking a big second mortgage on your home.

00:48:06.100 Natalie Dominguez, what do you got for us?

00:48:08.560 Hi, Steve.

00:48:09.180 Well, today I want to focus on the most vulnerable of our population when it comes to fraud, the elderly. 0.56

00:48:15.080 You know, we see these tragic headlines in the news every week.

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00:48:27.060 Caretaker steals the property of a recently deceased woman she was taking care of.

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00:48:55.240 And despite the legislation that passed in New York surrounding deed theft scams,

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00:49:08.520 Why do you ask?

00:49:10.020 I will tell you because the family didn't find out about it on time,

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00:49:17.260 And I don't think I've talked about this before.

00:49:18.920 Did you know that, Steve, that there's a statute of limitations for even just being able to contest fraud in the United States for a lot of these things?

00:49:25.940 No way. Did not know that.

00:49:27.820 Did not know that more.

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00:51:19.260 Thank you so much, ma'am.

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00:51:21.520 Thanks, Steve.

00:51:23.460 We need you at the Ramparts.

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Bannon's War Room - January 28, 2025

Episode 4227： Command And Control; Live From The WH

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