Episode 4234： Attacks On Trump's Nominees
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Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) joins CNN's John Berman to discuss his new role as the new head of the Department of Health and Human Services' Office of Vaccination and Public Health, which includes a new role for the Director of Public Health.
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and tanks were rolling across the peaceful border of Ukraine for the first time you tweeted at 1130
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p.m. your time. This war and suffering could have easily been avoided if Biden administration
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slash NATO had simply acknowledged Russia's legitimate legitimate security concerns regarding
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Ukraine's becoming a member of NATO. Did you say that? Yes or no? I believe you're reading my tweet,
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Senator. Yes, is the answer. A few months later, you said on your podcast, and I quoted it,
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quote, but this regime change war against Russia that the US and NATO are waging via their proxy in
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Ukraine didn't begin when Putin invaded Ukraine. They had their eyes set on this objective long
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before that. Did you say that? Yes or no? I believe you're reading my tweet. There's a lot more.
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You're quoting a podcast that provided much more context. I'm happy to have a conversation with
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the chairman about whether I'm taking anything out of context. I don't think I am. And your answer is
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yes. The findings of the Government Oversight Investigation Committee had investigated CDC's
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vaccine program in 2003. Senator Burton was chairman of that committee. And he said that the certain
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individuals in that program had written off a generation of kids because of, quote, misplaced
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institutional loyalty to the CDC and because of entanglements with the drug company. But I am
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pro-vaccine. I am going to support the vaccine program. I want kids to be healthy. And I'm coming
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in here to get rid of the conflicts of interest within the agency to make sure that we have gold
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standard evidence-based science. And if you show me where I'm wrong on this, show me a single
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statement I've made about science that is erroneous. Which is interesting because here's what you told
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Steve Bannon on his podcast. So what we thought would be cool is if we captured that audio and then,
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of course, had the greatest president, President Donald J. Trump, recite the Pledge of Allegiance,
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then we went to a studio and recorded it, mastered it, digitized it, and put it out as a song now
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releasing exclusively on the war room. We, we, we. If you had nothing to do with it, Mr. Patel,
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why did you tell Steve Bannon and all his listeners that you did? That's why it says we, as you
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highlighted. Yeah. And you're part of the we, right? When you say we, that includes you,
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doesn't it, Mr. Patel? Not in every instance. Well, that's new. So when you said we, you didn't
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really mean you. Is that your testimony? Not unless you have a new definition for the word we. Oh,
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okay. I, I always thought we included the person who pronounced the word. There's multiple studies
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establishing the safety of measles and hepatitis B vaccine, and specifically that they are not a
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cause of autism. In this position, and you have previously said yes, but if you are approved to
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this decision, to this position, will you say unequivocally, will you, will you reassure
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mothers unequivocally and without qualification that the measles and hepatitis B vaccines do not
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cause autism? Senator, I am not going into the agency with any. That's kind of a yes or no
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question. Because, so if you're, because the data is there, and that, that's kind of a yes or no. And
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I don't mean to cut you off, but that really is a yes or no. If the data is there, I will absolutely do
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that. Now, there is the data just because I used to, I used to do hepatitis B, as I've said. I know
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the data is there. Well, then, then I will be the first person, if you show me data, I will be the first
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person to assure the American people that they need to take those vaccines. Now, what concerns
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me is that you've, you've cast doubt on some of these vaccines recently. I mean, like last few
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years, but the data, and I can quote some of it, the data has been there for a long time. I've been
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out of the game. I've been in Congress for 16 years, and this data was in large measure generated
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before I came to Congress. So my concern is that, that if you were making those claims and being so
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influential, I mean, your bully pup is incredible. With that responsibility, that you never acquainted
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yourself with anything that might contradict that, what you were previously saying. So let me ask once
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more. If the data is brought to you, and these studies that have been out there for quite some time,
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and have been peer reviewed, and it shows that these two vaccines are not associated with autism,
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will you ask, no, I need even more? Or will you say, no, this, this, this, I see this, it's the test
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of time, and I unequivocally and without qualification say that this does not cause autism? Not only will I
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do that, but I will apologize for any statements that misled people otherwise. Thank you. Next.
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I just want to pledge to you, and I will never stick on a point if somebody shows me data that says I'm
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wrong. I know that's a, that's an interpretation people have, but it's absolutely wrong.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on
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these people. Here's what I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. The people
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have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in
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the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people
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like that go to share the big lie? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people
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had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my
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country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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It's Thursday, 30 January, Year of Our Lord, 2025. What a day. Wow. Where to start? Where we're
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going to start is Mary Holland is back. We asked her yesterday and she came back. She was good for her
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word. Mary Holland, Children of Health Defense. You were very enthusiastic yesterday or were you
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just patting us on the head and making us feel better? Did Bobby Kennedy get chopped up today
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or did he hold his own? Listen, the intent was to chop him up both days. It's pretty intense.
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It's very intense. Some of the questions were brutal and tough. They were tough, but I think he held his
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own. I don't think we expected it to be pretty. It's a confirmation, no confirmation. That's the whole
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issue, right? You're saying the game is up or down. The game is up or down and I think it's going to
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be up. Now, you mentioned to me, Cassidy, the chairman, and that he was negative. I'm sorry.
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Hang on, hang on before we get there. It's not just up or down. It's up or down where you get
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through. But when I hear Bobby Kennedy sitting there and going, I'm pro vaccine and they're also
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what they're trying to do. If they can't remove them, they want to narrow their options. Look,
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Bobby Kennedy, we're a right wing audience and our audience by and large loves Bobby Kennedy
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because he's a fighter. He's a fighter. This whole make America healthy again has hit a
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deep chord in people. What we saw today is that they're trying to box him in. Even as
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he gets through, they're trying to box him in on those one or two huge things he has
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I agree with that. They're going to try to box him in. I think he didn't take the bait
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on a lot of those yes, no questions that take a lot of nuance and long conversations.
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And I think he has to come in saying, I'm going to accept the way HHS is today, but I'm going
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to bring radical transparency and gold standard science. Once he does that, Steve, he brings
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transparency and science. He's going to make changes based on that. But he has to say,
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and he has to actually take actions to accept what he's walking into. So I don't know that
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he's going to, it's not going to be static to change things. He's going to, to make people
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healthy again. He's going to have to make major changes, but he has to say walking in
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the door, he respects what his predecessors have done for many years.
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For our audience, is it, it's so obvious to me that big pharma owns this city and you just
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see it come through. And what's interesting, they have a raw hatred for Bobby Kennedy, like
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they have for Trump on different issues, but they, they, they don't hate Tulsi. They don't
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hate cash. They don't, they dislike them. They want to stop them. And something was there's
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a visceral, they're, they are incensed by Bobby Kennedy. Am I wrong in that?
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Oh, I think you're right about that. And as we said yesterday, you know, seven pharma lobbyists
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for one member of Congress. So yeah, they're out for him because he does threaten the pharmaceutical
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medical complex. No question about that. He's going to open the books. The books have been
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closed. Pharma gives the documents that they want to the FDA and the CDC. FDA, CDC don't do their own
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original science. NIH gets royalties when they work with pharma. They get a lot of their budget
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from pharma directly. So yeah, Bobby is very threatening to the pharmaceutical complex.
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Let's talk about the process today. We have to have committee votes at a finance and health
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and human services today. Where do we stand on those? So the only, you're, you're, you're the
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Well, no, I'm at an independent organization, but he founded us. So, um, the only vote
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You packed, you guys packed the thing, but it's impressive.
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Well, it's the movement. We had thousands of people here in the last two days.
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And you have these mothers, the article today, I think in the Federalist, if I'm correct,
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or the free press, one of them that says the most powerful new force in American politics
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is these moms of the, um, make America healthy again, that you've totally changed the dynamic.
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That's as it should be, Steve. And in fact, Cassidy said, and Bobby said, this is a transcendent,
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powerful movement and it crosses party lines. It is a movement across all kinds of demographics.
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And it's exciting because it really is about positive change. Who can be against people being
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healthy? Um, but who, well, I got, I got a couple of them today. They were coming at this guy
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like they were trying to, you know, killing sick, sick people are very profitable. Healthy people are
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not profitable. Pharma knows that very well. Bobby Kennedy knows that very well. So yeah,
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they don't like him. And it was as nasty as I fully expected it to be. It wasn't. So you admit
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it was nasty. Oh, absolutely. It was nasty. But one of the important things on this pharma issue is
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Bobby did push back against Bernie Sanders and say, Bernie, you're taking money from pharma and
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maybe from individuals, but you're taking a lot of money. He didn't like that one bit.
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Let's do the head count on finance. And Cassidy's a swing guy here, isn't he?
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Yeah. Cassidy's very powerful right now because Cassidy, the only vote that counts is the finance
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committee. And on the finance committee, Cassidy's vote is critical. Why do you say the only vote
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Uh, the help committee was a courtesy hearing. It was not a voting committee. So today was a
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courtesy and a lot more senators got direct exposure. They went on the record, but the only
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vote that counts is yesterday. Cassidy's on that committee.
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Uh, it'd be very, if he, they need Cassidy's vote on the finance committee. I do believe that
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he's a traditional physician who left private practice 16 years ago. It makes perfect sense to
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me that he has absorbed the narrative of mainstream medicine. Vaccines are safe and effective. Vaccines
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save lives. He needs to talk more with Bobby to get comfort with Bobby, that Bobby is not going to
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take people's vaccines away. He comes, he gave a speech today about the hepat, about hepatitis B.
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He was a liver specialist. He is following the narrative of mainstream medicine, but I think he is
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movable. I think he wanted to put those reservations on the record, but I hope, and I do believe that he
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will support president Trump's nominee for his cabinet. Uh, numbers two, zero, two, two, two, four,
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three, one, two, one. We have work to do today on all three nominees, but make sure you call and you
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should direct your call to Cassidy, Senator Cassidy's office and let them know that you support
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. We're going to get into Tulsi and cash a little later in the show, but we need,
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you, does the, all, all these hang in the balance. They can all get across it. We have a big,
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massive grassroots uprising saying president Trump deserves his, his candidates. When you just said
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there, Bob, you sounded like the old Bobby Kennedy, that when the Bobby Kennedy we saw up there,
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you wouldn't think the guy ever questioned a vaccine in his life by the answers. Um, Steve,
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if you've read the four books that he wrote while he was in children's health defense, you know,
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this guy questions vaccines and you know that he's talking about radical transparency,
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gold standard science. Didn't he say in here he's pro vaccine today?
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Steve, he, he would, he, you know, just asking a simple question.
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Yes. He said that Steve. And, and I, and I think he has always said I'm not anti-vaccine. And if it
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really makes me healthy, I'm the first one who's going to take it. If the benefits overwhelmingly
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outweigh the risk, I'm the first one in line. He's never not, he's never abandoned that statement.
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Once people know the real science and there's real transparency, I assure you a lot of people are
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going to change their minds. Is the Maha moment, can you stay through the break? Nicole Shannon has
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not, and we're kind of jammed from time. I got to do is Maha make America healthy again. Is it a
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modern grassroots uprising of potentially mothers? Yes. Or is it a cult? No, this is, this is decades
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in the making, Steve. I've been a part of this movement for 20 years. This is a long-term
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grassroots movement that is finally getting a moment in the sun. This is not going away.
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And this is a powerful movement. And this is why this is a transcendent moment.
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This is a moment that has to be seized. And you believe that Cassidy, President Trump understands
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that, right? He does. Which is pretty powerful. It is. That he would kind of get this. He got it a
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long time ago, but he got this. You know, I think Cassidy gets it too. He doesn't want to go against
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this movement. He made it really clear. I'm going to have moms on my case. So many of the senators said
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that. It's really true. They know that there's going to be a political price to pay if they don't
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support this nominee. Can you hang on for a second? Sure. Mary Holland from Children's Health
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Affairs. By the way, fantastic job. The Maha movement turned out the last two days in the cold. Pretty
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An historic day in the Imperial Capitol. Today, we had Robert F. Kennedy Jr. being grilled on being the
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Secretary of Health and Human Services, a transcendent moment and a historic moment
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for this country. We had Cash Patel for the FBI and Tulsi Gabbard for DNI, three friends of the show.
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And I know the audience is all in. We kind of had NFL red zone in the first hour. Then President Trump
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stepped up and gave just a, how can I say it, a pretty impressive press conference that heads
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So Mary Holland, why was this, once again, before I start getting into the muck of headcount and how
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we're going to get this passed, why is this a transcendent moment today, a historic moment today?
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You can kind of feel it and you could particularly feel it in the forces that are receding. Why is
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this a transcendent and historic moment? Well, even regardless of the confirmation,
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thousands of people showed up. This is a movement that has been growing from the grassroots for
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decades. And it is now in the sun. So the New York Times is coming to talk to me.
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LA Times just ran a favorable piece about Bobby Kennedy. Politico did a halfway favorable piece
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about children's health defense. This movement is no longer wacko, anti-vax, fringe, marginal.
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This movement is now mainstream and people realize that over half of this country, adults and kids
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are sick. We've got to do something. As Bobby says, it's existential. Amazing. Let's talk about
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the practicality of the steps we have to do. The numbers 202-224-3121. Either go to the Article 3,
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first, and we're going to talk about Tulsi and cash flow later. We've got work to do overnight
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and tomorrow. These are hanging in the balance, I would say. We should take nothing for granted.
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At the Finance Committee, Senator Cassidy, who was a physician up until 10 years ago,
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Yes. Yes, he's the central person. He expressed his reservations today. But I do think he said he might
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want to be in touch with Bobby over the weekend. I do believe he's going to come around. He said
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that he wants to support President Trump's slate. He wants to support the vision. I do believe that
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he wanted to put those on the record, but that he is willing. I think he'll come around.
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Where do we stand then with the floor vote? You know, Murkowski, Collins, McConnell. I mean,
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Right. So McConnell, you know, is a polio survivor. He is anti, you know, he's not going
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to vote for Bobby Kennedy. Murkowski and Collins were both at the help committee today. Both of
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them asked detailed questions about Maine and Alaska. They both had concerns. But my impression
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was that they were comfortable voting in favor of Bobby Kennedy.
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So you think that those have been against some of President Trump's earlier picks?
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They were key for Gates leaving the yard. They were some of the toughest on Pete and eventually
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didn't vote for him. Right. You think that Murkowski and Collins, from the way you saw the
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questioning, the body language. That's what I saw today. Are you guys whipping votes? Are you,
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are you there to tell you, are you getting information and giving it back to Bobby about
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where we stand? No. I mean, you know, he's got his own team. I'm, I'm outside of that, but,
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but I think that's what it looked like today. Uh, what is it? Do you have any idea on the
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timing of this? Uh, people don't think that it's going to be tomorrow. Uh, Bobby had to answer
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questions. Right. So they have to, right. So they had questions. There's a record. He's
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submitting those answers tomorrow, today from the questions yesterday, but they expect to vote next
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week. Yeah. President Trump's very adamant now about Thune's got to pick up the pace here. He's
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wants his guys in. He saw this situation. Um, where do people go to get you? Because now more than
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ever. And we really want you to start our next guest, Nicole Shanahan brought it up the first
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time about agriculture and make America healthy. Again, we clearly want to get more people on here.
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We broke new ground on the pandemic and with the vaccine, the Naomi Wolf's of the world. In fact,
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I just read doppelganger by Naomi Klein. Her head blew up. It's annoying. It was some feminist leftist.
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All of a sudden she's on Bannon show and she started watching. She got it. The one thing about
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Naomi Klein is very interesting. The book is from 2023. I got to talk to her one time. She actually
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predicted and the only one that predicted the 2024 race of exactly what we're trying to do, which is
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a MAGA plus, which is the MAGA base plus the low information, low propensity plus the Maha moms. Right.
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That is a winning coalition. If you do that, you can, you can change it like 1932, but you have to
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deliver on that. And Bobby Kennedy is the way we deliver. Where do people go to get more information
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about all this? Children's health defense.org. And that's no longer a fringy group because I keep
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we're in the New York Times. We're no longer fringe, Steve. You can't imagine folks out there. If you
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ever whine about MAGA and Howard, you can't imagine what they used to refer to children's health
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defense. I mean, it was the cult, fringy, wackos, right? Just by determination, resilience, and grit.
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Here we are. Here we are. Mary Holland. Thank you so much. Thank you. Appreciate you.
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Let's play. We got Nicole Shanahan, but I got a great cold open. Let's play it. We'll bring in
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Nicole. Hey, everyone. Tomorrow is a pivotal moment in our nation's history. At 10 a.m.
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Eastern time, RFK will sit in front of the Senate Finance Committee for his confirmation hearing to
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be our nation's next Secretary of Health and Human Services. I urge everyone to call their U.S.
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senators over the following days and demand they vote yes on Bobby's nomination. He is more than
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qualified. He's proven, principled, and prepared to lead. I'll share a list below of key senators.
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If they represent your state, they need to hear from you. If they don't, please call your own
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senator and ask them to vote yes. We need as many votes as we can get. So this hasn't been widely
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reported, but in 2020, I cut large checks to Chuck Schumer to help Democrats flip two Senate seats in
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Georgia from red to blue. The two candidates I helped elect, Senator Raphael Warnock and Senator
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John Ossoff, please know I will be watching your votes very closely. I will make it my personal
00:23:33.260
mission that you lose your seats in the Senate if you vote against the future health of America's
00:23:38.320
children. And more than that, I also want to say to Senators Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham,
00:23:45.140
Lisa Markovsky, Susan Collins, Bill Cassidy, Tom Tillis, James Lankford, Cory Booker, John Fetterman,
00:23:52.020
Bernie Sanders, and Catherine Cortez Masto. This is a bipartisan message, and it comes directly from me.
00:23:58.940
While Bobby may be willing to play nice, I won't. If you vote against him, I will personally fund
00:24:03.940
challengers to primary you in your next election, and I will enlist hundreds of thousands to join me.
00:24:10.620
Um, big pharma and big ag have exploited us for far too long. It ends now. You're either on the side of
00:24:18.000
transparency and accountability, or you are standing in the way. The choice is yours. Please choose wisely.
00:24:26.260
Nicole Shanahan, Lord have mercy, girl, you threw down. What was that, ma'am?
00:24:32.940
You know, we're pissed. The moms are pissed. I'm pissed. And watching the line of questioning that
00:24:42.940
Bobby has had to endure the last two days from individuals that have received millions upon
00:24:50.120
millions of dollars direct from the pharmaceutical companies has been infuriating. And you know what?
00:24:58.120
The thing is, is the MAGA MAHA movement is so big. I really do think it's the largest movement on the
00:25:05.440
planet right now. And we're all watching this. Do you think any Senate confirmation hearing has had
00:25:11.380
this many live viewers? Certainly not as many that are this deeply vested. And that's what this is all
00:25:18.760
about right now. I didn't expect that video to go as viral as it did. And I've heard from so many
00:25:26.500
people who are like, we're ready to go. Can you please primary my senator? They're just fed up.
00:25:35.020
We're all fed up. And it's time to clean out this mess from our government.
00:25:42.300
Nicole, today, were you taken back by the viciousness of the, not the content of the
00:25:48.880
questions, but the viciousness of the delivery of some of the questions, ma'am?
00:25:52.240
I don't know where they get this self-righteous viciousness. It is, you know, part of me wonders
00:26:02.180
if they actually believe half of what they're saying. Some of it just feels like theater.
00:26:07.900
And the reality is, is for the rest of us out here living this reality every single day in America,
00:26:13.840
helping our kids through, you know, a new historic flu season, a new historic RSV season,
00:26:21.300
children that are born with autoimmune issues. It's not theater for us. This is our lived reality.
00:26:30.720
And so when I see that viciousness up there on Capitol Hill, it's, it's, these people are acting.
00:26:39.060
And I think that at this point, the Democratic Party chooses its candidates based on who can act,
00:26:45.360
not who gives a damn, who can tell like any bit of their lived experience through any bit of integrity,
00:26:52.600
because they're so detached and they're so removed and the people feel it. Many of the senators we've
00:26:58.600
heard from that were the harshest barely won their seats. I mean, Masto, Cortez Masto,
00:27:06.100
she won her seat by less than 1%. I mean, these things are like low,
00:27:12.240
these seats are low hanging fruit and we're coming after every single one of them.
00:27:18.380
Unbelievable. Can you, can you bear with us? I want to take a short commercial break
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and bring back some other questions about this. Historic moment today for the Make America Healthy
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again, the MAHA and the MAGA movement. Nicole Shanahan read us in a little bit,
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Nicole Shanahan is with us. She was the vice presidential candidate with Bobby Kennedy
00:30:02.920
until they rolled in and pardoned up with President Trump. Why is this a historic day
00:30:10.140
Bobby Kennedy and both the MAGA movement and particularly the Make America Healthy
00:30:14.380
Again movement? Why is this a transcendent moment, ma'am?
00:30:18.300
I'll explain it through a story, a personal story. My dear friend and mentor has a 26-year-old
00:30:24.520
vaccine-injured daughter. She's been at this for 25-plus years. She hasn't been heard. She hasn't
00:30:37.680
been heard for two decades. She hasn't been heard. For her to tune in and watch Mary Holland no longer
00:30:47.400
be fringe. Watch Bobby Kennedy talking on behalf of her personal story. The sad part of this all
00:30:55.800
is that it is no longer fringe. It's no longer fringe because that many families are impacted
00:31:01.820
by this crisis. That many families are impacted by this malfeasance. I mean, that's why today is
00:31:09.780
historic. It's sad that it is historic. It's sad because it indicates how big of a problem we
00:31:17.260
have on our hands today. Some of the folks that you said, hey, I'm going to primary these guys
00:31:23.580
because men and women shouldn't be around. Some of you've actually supported before. Did you not
00:31:29.460
know at the time that they didn't really support your core beliefs or particularly since Make America
00:31:35.360
Healthy Again is central to your whole mission and why you're kind of involved in politics in the first
00:31:39.900
place? Did you not understand it? Did they get bought off? Did they flip? Are they not the people you
00:31:44.820
thought they were? What about that? They're not the people I thought they were. It was 2020.
00:31:51.100
I supported Warnock and Ossoff. I supported Chuck Schumer. And I went back and I looked at my notes
00:31:59.060
from then. I looked at my email exchanges with Chuck Schumer's office. And I had gone to Chuck Schumer
00:32:04.760
with a huge folder full of documents about regenerative agriculture. And I said, why are you guys talking
00:32:12.880
about all of these other climate change policies? All you have to do is fix our agricultural system
00:32:19.400
and everything you're talking about in terms of emissions and balancing our carbon cycle can be
00:32:24.660
addressed through regenerative agriculture. Will you please, please do this? And he looked at me and he
00:32:31.220
said, yes, you know, I need your help. And he explained to me that he needed to win back the Senate
00:32:37.180
majority. And so I cut him checks. I said, OK, well, if you're going to take on regenerative agriculture
00:32:43.200
and we can move beyond all of this climate change mess, I'm happy to support you. This sounds like a
00:32:50.540
great opportunity. And so I did. And then when that Senate runoff happened in Georgia, I happened to
00:32:59.760
actually have a woman I had just started to work with. Her name is Shirley Sherrod. She was head of
00:33:05.800
agriculture at the USDA under Obama's administration. And she actually got pushed out. They were very
00:33:12.700
vicious to her, that administration. There was some, you know, there's an NAACP speech that she gave that
00:33:19.200
was mis-edited and then put online. And interestingly, it was Brett Bart at the time when he was
00:33:26.120
still a blogger. And it went viral. And they turned on Shirley without even any due process. They just
00:33:33.740
turned on her. And they kicked, they pushed her out. And so Shirley is in rural Georgia and she's been
00:33:40.020
organizing rural Georgian farmers. And I reached out to her and she happened to have a C4. And I said,
00:33:46.680
hey, you know, I know Stacey Abrams can't get out to rural Georgia. Can you, you know, do you want to
00:33:55.160
mobilize? And she said, yeah, I'd love to. And, you know, I have a C4. So I sent her a million dollars
00:34:01.180
to her C4. And she got out that vote and they just narrowly, narrowly pulled off that race. You
00:34:07.160
know, there's suspicion that there was some ballot stuffing and ballot integrity issues and the seats
00:34:13.220
were, quote, stolen. I don't know if that's true. Perhaps it is. But I do know the role that I played
00:34:18.760
in all of that. And I take responsibility for it. And I was, you know, I was wrong to ever trust these
00:34:24.200
people. It's like, do it. And many Democrats are opening up to this acceptance that they were wrong.
00:34:32.760
They were misguided. They were lied to. And it's all this bait and switch. And that's what the party's
00:34:38.820
been. And that's what, and nobody in their right mind can continue to support that.
00:34:45.120
Boy, Shirley Sherrod, I dealt with. I was Andrew Breitbart's partner. That's a whole nightmare. If it was not
00:34:50.160
for Anthony Weiner, Andrew would have never been back on Fox. Well, I'll tell that story later.
00:34:54.680
But man, you just sent shivers down my spine in the Shirley Sherrod tape. Before I let you go,
00:35:00.920
there's been some talk. You're very upset what's happened in California. And there's some talk that
00:35:06.100
you might be interested in running for governor against Gavin Newsom. Is there any truth to that
00:35:11.400
rumor? There is truth to that rumor. I'm putting together an exploratory committee this coming
00:35:17.660
summer. I haven't committed to running yet. There's quite a bit of work that needs to be done.
00:35:22.840
If it's my time, I will run. If it is not my time, I will throw the full weight of my support,
00:35:28.780
my media team, my endorsement behind somebody great who is Maha Maga.
00:35:35.280
Well, I guess Newsom's not going to run again. I guess he's not going to get recalled.
00:35:41.380
Yeah. Nicole Shanahan, where do people go to find out more about you, more about your
00:35:45.720
support and kind of you're one of the co-founders of the Maha movement. Where do people go to find
00:35:49.900
out more about that, make America healthy again, where they go to find out why this is a historic
00:35:54.600
day and what we're up against in all of this, ma'am?
00:35:58.280
Yeah. I mean, we are really a team, Steve, now. And I really appreciate the work you've been doing
00:36:03.720
on transhumanism. That's a topic that I'm very passionate about. I have a podcast called Back to
00:36:09.960
the People. You can find us on all of the major streaming platforms as well. I'm very active
00:36:16.880
on X. That's kind of straight from my head onto the keyboard. It doesn't go through a big team.
00:36:23.480
It's my personal way to communicate what I'm finding, what I'm thinking, and the direction
00:36:32.400
Nicole Shanahan, where on X, where do people get you on X?
00:36:40.120
Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate you. Thanks for coming on.
00:36:47.060
What a day. We haven't, and here's what was so powerful about it is that, and we hope that we
00:36:52.140
tried to do is kind of like NFL red zone. We try to cut the first hour, President Trump came in the
00:36:56.880
second hour. But if you looked at the intensity and what we do is really focus on the Democrats
00:37:01.540
because they're coming in with these vicious questions, cheap shot questions, not really
00:37:05.420
looking for an answer. We want you to see the grace under pressure of the Tulsi Gabbards,
00:37:11.320
of the Cash Patels, of the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. And these were, this was, I thought, as nasty
00:37:17.540
as it could get. I mean, they came at Cash with everything. They came at Tulsi with everything.
00:37:21.420
They came at Bobby Kennedy with everything. And I would tell President Trump, I think your
00:37:25.560
folks came through with flying colors. Given what it was, and some people got dinged up,
00:37:30.040
there's no doubt about that. I got a few scuff marks. I don't think anything came close to not
00:37:34.800
expediting these and get Senate to get the committee votes as soon as possible. And let's get them to
00:37:40.720
the floor. President Trump said that when he gave the remarks today about the tragedy at what happened
00:37:47.640
at outside of or over top of Reagan National Airport here in the nation's capital right over the
00:37:56.140
Potomac, this horrible tragedy, the president came in at 11 a.m. and really from, I guess,
00:38:03.000
closer to 11.30. He was late. 11.20 came in, but held like a 35-minute press conference. And I tell
00:38:10.200
people that, particularly with this audience, the sunshine patriots and the summer soldiers are always
00:38:20.000
going to be with us. And you just have to accept that. And maybe the parties, just don't let it
00:38:25.340
bother you. You're the backbone. And you're the key part of this movement because you will always
00:38:31.240
answer the trumpet's call and be there when you're needed. And you're going to be needed to get these
00:38:37.760
confirmations across and also to have President Trump's back. You could see the beginning. If you
00:38:42.120
look at the last 48 hours, they're feeling their oats. President Trump's victory had really smashed
00:38:49.660
their self-confidence. I think they started to realize that they had had every, they'd had their
00:38:55.180
hands on the levers of institutional power. And it got lazy. And it really stopped thinking about
00:39:01.520
American citizens, particularly working class and middle class Americans. They really became a party
00:39:05.540
of the kind of the billionaires, then the credential class, dropped all the way down to kind of the,
00:39:10.820
not the working poor, but just the kind of the abject poor. And they lost their way in a big way.
00:39:16.940
And they got smoked. And they realized a long, torturous path back when you've forgotten those,
00:39:22.260
those values. But they've seen in the last 48 hours, this is about the memo. The memo that went out
00:39:28.760
was a perfectly fine memo. Did it go through enough process? I don't know. Maybe not. But the point was
00:39:33.520
President Trump was signing executive orders and taking executive actions. And the next day,
00:39:37.920
remember, we held up that, that, that headline of the Financial Times alum that said $300 billion
00:39:43.580
basically carved back out, I think, of the Green New Deal program that hadn't been spent.
00:39:49.480
A lot of this dealt with impoundment. You know, President Trump signed an executive order. And the
00:39:53.000
next day, you know, the New York Times report, well, he signed something on the World Health
00:39:56.500
Organization, but they're really not out. They're spending money. Or he shut down all the New Deal,
00:40:01.240
all the Green New Deal plans, but he's still not out. They're still spending money.
00:40:06.220
And finally, I think he told people and guys around him, he said, hey, send a memo out to
00:40:10.020
everybody and let's just go to full stop and we see where all this cash is. And this is a normal
00:40:15.340
course of business. I think it's done every, in every change of presidency because the new
00:40:20.340
administration coming in wants to kind of understand kind of a, you know, you're changing
00:40:24.080
the watch, where all this cash is going. And they made it the biggest firestorm in human
00:40:29.360
history. And maybe some people weren't giving a heads up, who knows? But they made it the biggest
00:40:33.940
firestorm in human history. You then attach, I think, the Doge memo that kind of put like
00:40:38.180
in corporate America, hey, look, we're doing a restructuring here. If you want to buy out,
00:40:43.380
those will be available. But if you miss this date, hey, you'll be around. But we can't
00:40:47.780
guarantee you, we're not going to guarantee you're going to have a billet. Because what
00:40:51.000
have I been talking about here? Programs and billets, programs and billets, and I've been
00:40:54.980
individual personalities or individual people. And you've seen that. That's what that memo
00:40:59.980
talked about, right? We're going to be, we're going to be downsizing. We're going to go in
00:41:03.600
a different direction. President has full authority to do that. Those two things. And
00:41:08.380
you saw, you know, the, the firestorm, Rachel Maddow, who's now five nights a week, she was
00:41:12.240
looking for a hook and looking for, to get a grip. That was part. And you saw today if
00:41:16.980
the illustrious nature of President Trump going down into the briefing room and the press was
00:41:24.940
back on just like the jackals they were. It reminded me of some of the pandemic of which
00:41:30.260
remember with Jason Miller here, we had war room pandemic and Raheem. And then for a while,
00:41:34.840
I just took it, but we would show the press conferences and they didn't want to hear what
00:41:38.340
President Trump had to say. They didn't want to sit, walk through about what he was doing on this
00:41:42.760
pandemic, which I think he handled absolutely brilliantly given the information of the time
00:41:47.960
at the time and how the apparatus was working against him. I almost felt like we were back to that.
00:41:54.940
Given the vicious nature and it's vicious, the vicious nature of, of the media, they're just
00:42:03.240
vicious and they don't come with Trump with facts. They're just going to come up with just pure
00:42:07.820
vitriol. So we have to say, I think today, I think they got lit today. So I believe, and I keep
00:42:16.120
telling people, I said, look, you're going to really know who has President Trump's back and who's in this
00:42:20.880
movement by grinding through the next couple of weeks. We've got all these confirmations that
00:42:25.160
got to get done. And I believe they're, I believe they're, they're, they're feeling it. They're,
00:42:31.340
they think a little bit of blood in the water. They just do. Not that there is, but they think so.
00:42:37.140
This is why I think, and we'll discuss this as we go forward. You know, I think it went as Tulsi's
00:42:41.220
the most vulnerable. Bobby's next in cash. I think Tulsi might've come through with this today.
00:42:48.360
I think she represented cash. I think they feel they got a couple of dings in on cash
00:42:52.820
and Bobby. I think they got some dings on Bobby. Now I agree with Mary Holland. I think Cassie's
00:42:57.180
the key. We get Cassie through it. He should get through it. He's a guy that hasn't been particularly
00:43:01.340
pro Trump or pro MAGA. I think he's up for reelection coming to 26. He's got the reality check.
00:43:07.200
And I think you ought to give him another one. 202-224-3121. That's imperative, imperative,
00:43:13.040
imperative. That not just the vote for Bobby Kennedy, but he's got to help expedite. We got
00:43:17.280
to get a committee vote. I would love to see that tomorrow. Although they've asked Bobby for a bunch
00:43:20.920
of following information. I hope his team turns that as quickly as possible. We need Bobby Kennedy.
00:43:26.180
If the last 24 hours, 48 hours have shown anything about this tragic situation in Washington
00:43:31.620
with the Apache helicopter and the American Eagle jet. It's that President Trump needs his team. He
00:43:45.540
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00:44:29.320
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00:44:35.700
I can't say for sure if this will happen, but it's an interesting and dire warning. Fortunately,
00:44:41.740
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We got to fight. Uh, and you have to let these Republican senators know that this is important.
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President Trump wants his team. You can see now with their testimony, why he wants them. And you
00:47:34.800
can see the resistance to them. Wait when they get in and start taking action. Wait till Bobby
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Kennedy takes some action. Wait till Cash Patel takes some action. Wait till Tulsi Gabbard takes some
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action. Just like Pete Hex and all these guys. This is my point about the memo. The OMB memo was just to
00:47:52.840
find out where the money is in the entire system and to kind of go to all engines, stop temporarily,
00:47:58.120
temporarily. So we can just figure out where this is going. And they could ascertain if president
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Trump's written an executive order, we want to make sure there's not still money in the pipeline
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give the call these senators up and just tell them what you think. Say, hey, I saw it. I had some
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moments. They're not that pretty. Just that's reality. That's human nature. But man, they were they were
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they came through with flying colors, flying colors. Let those senators know it. Two zero two
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two two four three one two one. Mike Lindell, you've been you've been and the factory floor,
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you've been actually building value for your customers. We got crosses. We got sheets. We got
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pillows. We got towels. Tell me about it, sir. Yeah, we've got you just named them all. I'm surrounded
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by them here. We're we're back doing some commercials. You guys might have seen the big
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commercial we came out with my employees. I was down there today and they are all happy because
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they love being busy. But one of the things that's made it so busy is you guys at the war room posse.
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There's the cross. You see, like where there's the men's, the women's is is interchangeable. It's
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reversible. And so we have those 30 percent off for the war room posse. You've got the towels, all that
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the mega sale. This is the mega sale. You guys, you get 30 percent off in the my crosses, the my towels.
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They're on sale sale. So you have a double sale. They're usually forty nine ninety eight on sale.
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The war room posse. Twenty nine ninety eight. The flannel sheets that the war room loves. Steve
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loves them. I got some right next to me here. The most amazing flannel sheets you will ever use
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for the lowest price anywhere, anytime. And once they're gone, they're gone. There's a queens are
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only fifty nine ninety eight kings. Sixty nine ninety eight. They're regularly one hundred and some
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dollars. And if you use promo code war room, go to the website and go down to you see Steve and
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you're going to see all the other products like I'm holding the big body pill twenty nine
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ninety eight. Here's the classic my pillow fourteen ninety eight. There we have. They're
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almost gone. The clearance event. I'd say by tomorrow they'll be gone. That's all the my
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in the USA. There's my reps are right downstairs. I'm going to go down there again. Steve I did
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it last week. I'm going to go down there and take a couple of your calls. Eight hundred eight seven three one zero six two. I'd like to get back into it. I'm so excited. We keep on. The employees are busy and it's a win-win.
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Win-win-win. My employees are we helping helping out the greatest show out there. That's helping spread the word that we need to save our country. And you help you get the best sleep of your life. Get the best products of your life. And so it's a win-win-win Steve.
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Mike Lindell. Thank you very much brother. My pillow dot com promo code war room. Get all the specials. The lead here. Mega maga. The mega maga sale.
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You know I think my sister came up with not that. She may be going after Mike with
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