Episode 4257： Destruction Of The Oligarch Class; Trump Approval Rating Continues To Climb
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Summary
In this episode, we talk about Project 2025 and how it could impact the future of the country. We also talk about the impact Project 2025 could have on the economy and the potential impact it could have in the long-term.
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He's president again, Project 2025's fingerprints are all over his agenda.
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Even one of the key architects of Project 2025, Russell Vogt, is back in the administration
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resuming the role he held during Trump's first administration, director of the Office of
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Management and Budget. And on Friday, Vogt was named acting director of the Consumer
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Financial Protection Bureau, which protects consumers from deceptive practices by banks,
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lenders, or other financial institutions. The CFPB has been targeted for elimination by Project
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2025, and now it's the latest federal agency to come into the crosshairs of President Trump and
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Elon Musk. Last night, Vogt sent a series of directives to slow a portion of the Bureau's
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activity, effectively putting them at a standstill. And earlier today, CFPB's employees were told to
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start working remotely as the Washington, D.C. headquarters will be closed all this week.
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What are we doing here? If federal funding is supposed to be routed through Congress and you
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are just bypassing us, then why do I show up to the Capitol every week?
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That's a great question. And for decades that I've been involved in government and politics,
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even the legislative side, even if it's split government, tends to work together to fight
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for their powers against the executive branch. It's not uncommon to see that. But what we're
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seeing now is that the Republicans in the House and Senate are willing to completely fold to Donald
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Trump's will. They're buying into he has a mandate. He doesn't have a mandate. He has the slimmest
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majorities possible in the House. He has three. He doesn't have 60 votes in the Senate, but they are
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afraid. I don't know how else to say it. They have no political courage. What does it take? Maybe 2026.
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You mean a midterm when the voters hold them accountable?
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Yeah. Or yeah. And then they become a little free when some of them get reelected, like a
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Susan Collins, for example. But at the end of the day, I still it troubles me so much to see that
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they are willing to abdicate the very thing that makes our country great. They are not willing to
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uphold the Constitution. They are not willing to live up to the oath they've taken. You can
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disagree, disagree with your Democrat counterparts, but at least fight for something. You're just
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simply abdicating everything, and especially in the House. And the House, I actually think they're
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Public opinion matters. And the public did not give Trump a mandate to dismantle the whole chunks of
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the federal government. Gave him a mandate to kick the tires, check the dipstick, and make sure that
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things are running well and efficiently. In that part, he has a mandate. But what Elon Musk is doing
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is way beyond any mandate that Trump could possibly realistically claim. And we're going to fight
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that. Remember, in his first term, Joe, you'll remember this. He wasn't much of a shrink-the-government
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kind of conservative. He wasn't doing very much, if anything, to pare back the scope and size of
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our federal state. Now, suddenly, they're shuttering agencies without congressional approval.
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They're sending these young 20-somethings in to agencies left and right to just make wholesale
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changes and reductions without any input from lawmakers. And on the foreign front, we're seeing
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a different kind of America first, right? Instead of America first isolationism, we're seeing kind of
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an America first imperialism. Instead of focusing on things within our borders, he's now focused on
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expanding our borders. And so this is a different kind of Trump in that sense.
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And I decided to average all the polls. And you know what? The average of the polls also has him
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on the positive side of the ledger. All right, let's take a look. Trump's net approval rating
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on February 9th. Look at this. In 2025, he's at plus four points. Look where he was in 2017,
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his first term at this point. He was at minus five points. So he's doing nearly 10 points better
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on the average. And more than that, as I mentioned, it's not just the CBS News poll. It's the Ipsos poll.
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It's the Gallup poll. It's the Pew poll. All of these polls have him in better shape than those
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respective polls had him at this point back in 2017. So the bottom line is, no matter where you look,
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Donald Trump is more popular than he was eight years ago at this point in his first term. And
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he's on the positive side of the ledger versus the negative side of the zero point line as he was back
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in 2017. And how rare is it that Trump's in this positive territory when it comes to his approval
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rating? Yeah, you know, I remember Donald Trump's first term, and it just seemed every single day
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Donald Trump was in the negative territory. And it turns out it was pretty much every single day of
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his first term. Positive net approval rating for Donald Trump, again, using the aggregate of the
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polls. Look at this. In his entire first term, just 11 days, just 11 days was he on the positive side of
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the ledger. Compare that so far every single day, all 20 days so far he has been on the positive side
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of the ledger. So he has nearly doubled up the number of days in which he has a positive net approval
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rating from his first term. And we're only 20 days in. Every single day Donald Trump has been in
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positive territory compared to just 11 days during his first term. The bottom line is no matter which
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poll you look at, no matter what way you look at it, simply put, Americans like the job that Donald
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Trump is doing significantly more this time around than they did in his first term when he just had
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11 days in which he had a negative, a positive net approval rating compared to already nearly three
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weeks so far, Jessica. This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
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Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Here's one time I got a free shot
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on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you
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don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're
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And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish
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that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Monday, 10 February, Year of Our Lord, 2025. All out in the war between the populist
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nationalist movement, President Trump's second term in the takedown of the administrative state
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in the deep state. And they are fighting back on all fronts. A couple of their fronts are already
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kind of beat up and crushed. That is, politically, they're feckless, hapless, and wandering around.
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The media is also on its back foot, particularly as these polls come out and overwhelmingly support
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President Trump. The CBS poll yesterday was incredible. We'll get to that in a moment.
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The front that looks like they're trying to slow us down, and this is all blitzkrieg, is in the courts.
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I'll address that. A lot to do today. A huge, huge work week for this audience of so much
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going on between confirmations, understanding what's happening on the war against the administrative
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state, international first, geopolitics, tons of economics. I want to get right to it.
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Jack Basovic, a big cultural event yesterday, one for the people of Philadelphia and Pennsylvania
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and Eagles fans throughout the world, but also the backing of President Trump, the first president
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ever to attend a Super Bowl. I didn't even realize that. President Trump didn't realize that either
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one was brought up on the Fox thing. I thought at least a couple of the presidents back in
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the 80s had gone. I thought Clinton had gone. I thought maybe Bush 41 had gone. Jack, talk
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to me about both the cultural, culturally what happened yesterday, both in the game itself
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Well, Steve, what can I say? Big night for Philadelphia, for my family, for the Poso family.
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The people remember went pretty viral earlier in this year during the season when my brother
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and I got sent up to Eagles jail just a couple of months before, or a couple of days before
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the election, going down and campaigning for Trump at Eagles Stadium, the Lincoln Financial
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Stadium itself, with Cliff Maloney, by the way, from the PHAs. But I kept telling people
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this is about Pennsylvania. And if you go into the heart of Philadelphia, that hard scrabble
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area, look, and I understand that people have a view of Philadelphia because of the recent
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crime, the homicide rate, the Soros prosecutor, all the stuff that's going on there. We're
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fighting it. We are absolutely fighting it. But I want you to think that there's another
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side of Philadelphia. There's the Poso Bros Philadelphia, the Poso family Philadelphia, the
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Sam Alito Philadelphia, the Frank Rizzo Philadelphia. This is a town full of hard workers, a town
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full of bare knuckle fighters, and a town that will absolutely show up and deliver. And that's
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what you saw last night. It was sort of the people's team versus the corporate with the
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Pfizer backing of Kansas City, you know, Pfizer and Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift and all the
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corporate media hoopla around that entire thing, which myself and Mike Benz called out last week
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or last year, when we said that there's clearly, there's clearly a thumb on the scales behind all
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this stuff. And of course, the media went after us and Saturday Night Live went after us. And then
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suddenly, suddenly, we have this moment where President Trump walks in. He's shown on the
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jumbotron saluting during the national anthem. The crowd erupts in cheers. Then a little while later,
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they put up Taylor Swift. So there's there's Trump, you can see him with the cheers. Then a little while
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later, they put up Taylor Swift and the entire crowd is booing her. And there's this this viral
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video now of her watching herself being booed. And she turns to her friend, she said, what's going on?
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Because she's been in this bubble, this corporate crafted bubble herself and Travis Kelsey, the same
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way that they use other people. And I don't know her personally, I have nothing against her personally.
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But the point is, is that they were trying to use her as and Steve, you and I talked about this a lot.
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They were trying to use her politically in 2024, until that bubble was popped by President Trump
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himself and a few others within the MAGA movement, who called out these political forces formulating
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behind her these corporate forces, popped that bubble, President Trump came out swinging. And now
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people really see it for what it is. And they're completely sick of it. So I just want people to
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understand, we've gone through a massive cultural shift, where President Donald J. Trump is being
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cheered at the Super Bowl, while Taylor Swift is being booed at the very same night in the very
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same night. And by the way, people want to talk about, oh, well, that's, you know, that's Taylor
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Swift, and it's an Eagles crowd. So maybe there are more Eagles. So she's from the Philadelphia
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area. This is supposed to be her hometown crowd. So I'm just saying, maybe, maybe there's a little
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something going on when it comes to all this. Know somebody else from the Philadelphia area,
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by the way, Joe Biden, remember Scranton Joe, Eastern, Eastern start part of Pennsylvania,
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he's putting the by the way, they're putting the Biden Museum, they announced that's going to be in
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the Philadelphia area as well, because they understand Delaware is just a complete wasteland.
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That's what they've left behind there. So they're putting that in the Philadelphia area. Look,
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there's a huge shift going on on the ground. We tried my brother and I when we were doing all the
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work in Pennsylvania and in Philadelphia, specifically to show you that the shift was going
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on. But it's, it harkens to a larger shift that's going on in the country, where the era of BLM,
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the era of high wokeness has gone astray, and it has been replaced by the era of high MAGA.
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Talk to me about the whole, because people, a lot of people don't know this, don't live on the East
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Coast, or maybe don't live up in that part of the Northeast. But when you say the Frank Rizzo
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element of it, Philadelphia is a very tough town. You can't go to a tough, as hard as it is to go to
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Boston Garden, right, and see a bunch of executives and working class guys get in, particularly with
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the Bruins, or to go to a Rangers game in New York City. But Philadelphia Eagles football is right up
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there with Rangers games and Bruins games, being a little rough. Talk to me about the Rizzo influence,
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it's got a minute or two. I want people to understand that Philadelphia is not mainline,
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No, this isn't, this isn't Josh Shapiro's mainline. No, no, no. This is, when you're in Philadelphia,
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especially when it's Frank Rizzo's Philadelphia, this is the place where the journalists would
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come and try to, he was the mayor back in the 60s, 70s, and the police chief before then,
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when the journalists would show up at his house, that he would pick fights, physical fist fights
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with the journalists and throw them out and throw the cameras out and call them a bunch of crumb bums.
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He was the one that would lead the crackdowns on the riots in the 60s. He would lead the
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crackdowns on the Black Panthers. When police officers were caught, he would just order the
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cops to go around and round them all up, strip searching people. He did, and he did, by the way,
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what he had to do to keep the city clean. You might even say that a certain New York mayor,
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Giuliani, got a little bit of the Frank Rizzo playbook there in the 1990s. Of course,
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Yeah, a little bit of the playbook, but not the...
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Real quickly, the statue of Frank Rizzo, is that, was that a victim of BLM? Is that,
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The statue of Frank Rizzo, as well as the great statue of Kate Smith there in Philadelphia,
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have been taken down, and Steve, those are absolutely on my list for restoration.
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But the one statue that we did keep up in Philadelphia, South Philly,
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Chris Columbus is still standing right there in South Philly, because the people to South Philly
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said, you want, you want to take down Chris? You got to come through us.
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Come and get it. Poso, we got a lot to talk about geopolitically. You're bringing that,
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you're bringing that Frank Rizzo angle of attack on things. Big news on Poso this week. Also big
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news about President Trump, what's happening overseas. We got economy, the budget, the tax process,
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the administrative state, the courts, Mike Davis, President Trump's appointing, as much as I say
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the tech bro's owning, he's appointing anti-big tech folks to the regulatory apparatus that oversees
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big tech. So it's a day of action, action, action in the war room. Back in a moment.
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It's so important for politicians is for folks to believe what they're saying and that they're
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keeping their campaign promises. So I think this gives you a pretty gosh darn good idea of what may
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be going on. Trump's doing what he promised to do. You go back to April of 2017. It was just 46%
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of all Americans who said that Trump was doing what he promised to do. Compare that now to February of
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2025. You know, there was a good show that was on during the 1990s called A Different World.
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That is what's going on right now. We're living in a different world. 70% of Americans say Trump is
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doing what he promised to do. Again, compare that to April of 2017 when it's just 46%. When Americans
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are 24 points more likely to say that you're doing what you promised to do, it's no wonder that your
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net approval rating is much more likely to be on the positive side of the ledger than on the negative
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side. And so far, what we're seeing, again, is Americans 21 days so far versus just 11 days during
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his entire first term that Trump has a positive net approval rating. Quite a different world.
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Okay, this is the predicate. This lays the foundation for everything that's going forward.
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of what we're going to talk about on the budget process, and let me just say this, the Hill
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newspaper yesterday, for people on Getter, and please, everyone should download Getter or go
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the Getter website. I'm up there 24-7 putting up things I think are interesting or to know. I kind
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of build the case of a lot of things there. I do link to a lot of what I would call left-wing,
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The Guardian, Politico, CNN, so you can see how in information narrative warfare, because Jack
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Posobiec is the best of this. It's all about narrative warfare. You get to understand it.
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On Getter, I put up a story yesterday. One of the first stories Sunday morning in the Hill
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was about, wait for it, the continuing resolution, and how March 14th is everything. And all these
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things that are running around and doing reconciliation are important, but they're not
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the thing itself. They're not the thing itself. I'm going to drill down on that as we've been
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talking about it. Because right now, unless there's some changes, and there's still time for changes,
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what they intend to do is acquiesce to keep the government running around March 14th and kick
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the can down for the full rest of the fiscal year. To go all the way to September 30th. That means
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President Trump, his first year, is working on Joe Biden's budget. It means that none of the stuff
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you see a doge right now, whether it's the kind of the small ball stuff you're seeing on, hey,
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this research project is terrible, research project is terrible, which is all great, are some of the
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bigger things that are getting into, like shutting down USAID, or shutting down the Consumer Protection
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Board, which is, you know, 80% of that's total scam. Or over at the Pentagon, you got across the
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Potomac, none of that would be included, because you just go off the existing numbers of Biden's budget.
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And it has baked in there already a $2 trillion deficit. So it would be a total surrender
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to Biden and Pelosi in the first year of President Trump's term, and he just saw. He's got 70% approval
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on people saying he's doing what he said he would do. One of this is to cut this deficit and have
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massive cuts of federal spending. That's the entire reason you have Elon Musk and the Doge.
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They're both auditing for corruption and incompetence and malfeasance, but they're also going to come back
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with Stephen Miller, the Deputy White House Chief of Staff for Policy, and Russ Vogt,
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head of OMB, to talk about actually taking apart the administrative state program by program and
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cutting the massive federal deficit. Elon said he could cut a trillion dollars out. None of that
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will happen. Now, you're going to be the soldiers at the front line of this. Also, many confirmations.
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Davis will be up about the legal, about the making sure President Trump has got people in there to
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go against the oligarchs, and about this entire budgeting process, all of it, which you're going
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to be at the front lines on. Jack, I want to, Posobiec, you brought up something, and I wanted to play
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that CBS, that's CNN talking about the CBS poll. The CBS poll was nothing short of shocking if you are
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a President Trump supporter. I know for the opposition, they're in the mumble tank, but it
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was so positive. Give me your assessment of where he stands with the American people, and then I want
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to play the manifestation that you brought up last, and actually people see the video and hear the audio
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of what America thinks of the Trump version of MAGA versus the credentialed in elite class
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personified by Pfizer's own Kelsey's boyfriend, Taylor Swift, sir.
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Look, Steve, 53 percent, and by the way, this is 53 percent where President Trump's approval is
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sitting at, and that's after the nominations, after all of the executive actions that they told us were
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deeply unpopular. They told us the American people don't want this stuff, and then you have two things
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that happen on the same day. The 53 percent that drops from CBS News in the morning, and then
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President Trump walking onto the field at the Super Bowl right there in New Orleans at the Superdome
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and getting a standing ovation from the crowd while Taylor Swift has been booed. Look, you don't need
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to take my word for it. We saw the culture shift here a year ago. We told you that this was coming a
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year ago, but nobody wanted to hear us. They said it was, hi, Taylor Swift. They said it was, hi,
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everything else. We're going to do more wokeness. We're going to do more all of this, but they
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didn't see it. They didn't see that the ground was shifting under them, that people were, and by the
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way, you did see this last night in some of the advertisements, because the way it works with the
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channeling on those advertisements, that pipeline starts a year in advance. So what you did see were
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woke advertisements. You saw a halftime show that was mid at best. This was not playing to all of
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America. There were other elements I thought that were wonderful. I thought the national anthem was
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great, a lot of this. And by the way, to the folks out there who say, why do you care about the Super
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Bowl? Why do you care about this, right? The Super Bowl is America's largest spectacle. This is the Roman
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Coliseum and the gladiators of America, which is the new Rome. This is our great championship event
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of the entire nation that everyone tunes into. And whether you like it or not, and I say this as a
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guy who's from a football town, but whether you like it or not, this is the country as it is. And
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President Trump always understood that. That's why, what did Trump stand against? The kneeling.
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He stood against the kneeling from the very start. He identified that as anti-American and that he
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wrapped himself in the flag and wrapped himself in patriotism. And let's go back to it because who was
00:24:43.820
it? What was the team? Colin Kaepernick was the one who started that on the Kansas City Chiefs. And
00:24:49.800
who was there sitting right next to him, or I should say kneeling right next to him, Travis Kelsey. So it
00:24:56.580
was Travis Kelsey all along with the BLM, with the wokeness. That was the way they backfilled it. And
00:25:02.080
people remember the NFL being used to promote Obamacare back all the way in the mid 2000s. That's what
00:25:08.260
broke. People were finally sick of the crap. They were sick of the nonsense. And that's what's given
00:25:13.620
this massive wave of support. That's what's given the populist nationalist brand, this massive wave
00:25:18.560
of support. People want to support America. They want to support their country. They're sick of being
00:25:23.180
told what to do. They're sick of being told that some people are better than others. They just want
00:25:27.640
to see skill. They want to see merit. They want to see achievement. They don't want some massive
00:25:33.080
corporate sponsor sitting there and barking orders to them anymore. They're still the American people.
00:25:38.020
We have always been the most independent people in the world. And by the way, a center right country,
00:25:44.400
America's always been a center right country. This ain't Canada, boys and girls, Canada, I don't know,
00:25:49.120
I would say maybe center left country. And, you know, the Canadian conservatives and Pierre up there
00:25:54.360
will show you every chance they get. Because they don't have the same roots that we are. We threw off the
00:26:00.640
crown. We are the ones who stood up and said no more. We're going to be our own people. We don't want to
00:26:06.640
be some international system empire that's run out of the city of London. We are going to be a nation
00:26:12.860
state and we're going to focus on ourselves. And that's where the hemispheric defense policy came
00:26:17.400
from, which our founders adhered to. By the way, born amidst empires, right? We had the Spanish empire,
00:26:23.140
the British empire, the Russian empire was here on the North American continent back then. But at the
00:26:27.220
time, America said we will not be an empire. We will be a republic and a nation state. That's always
00:26:34.620
what our constitution was set up for to make us be a nation state, not this globalist,
00:26:39.660
monoculture, homogenous, global homogenized culture. No, we are going to be the American
00:26:45.000
people, independent, strong. And that's what you see coming out. And President Trump saw those
00:26:49.200
energies building and harnessed it. That's why he's having the political force that he has now.
00:26:54.920
Let's play the clip of Trump and we'll go to break. Trump and Taylor Swift.
00:27:30.500
America overwhelmingly supports President Trump and MAGA and Taylor Swift. Not so much. Correct.
00:27:39.280
Travis, Travis was supposed to propose last night. He was going to get the big trophy. He was going
00:27:44.000
to propose there on the field. But Taylor, I don't know. I'll put it this way. At least Taylor's got
00:27:53.660
Since I've never listened to one note or one lyric, I take it that has, that's about heartache.
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One of the things that's so important for politicians is for folks to believe what they're
00:29:52.020
saying and that they're keeping their campaign promises. So I think this gives you a pretty gosh
00:29:56.740
darn good idea of what may be going on. Trump's doing what he promised to do. You go back to April
00:30:02.720
of 2017. It was just 46% of all Americans who said that Trump was doing what he promised to do.
00:30:09.700
Compare that now to February of 2025. You know, there was a good show that was on during the 1990s called
00:30:16.140
A Different World. That is what's going on right now. We're living in a different world. 70% of Americans
00:30:22.440
say Trump is doing what he promised to do. Again, compare that to April of 2017 when it's just 46%.
00:30:28.800
When Americans are 24 points more likely to say that you're doing what you promised to do,
00:30:34.300
it's no wonder that your net approval rating is much more likely to be on the positive side of the
00:30:38.820
ledger than on the negative side. And so far, what we're seeing, again, is Americans 21 days so far
00:30:44.860
versus just 11 days during his entire first term that Trump has a positive net approval rating.
00:30:52.440
Unbelievable. I also want to play the 70, the Harry Enten's on the 70% too. Let's get that teed up.
00:31:03.840
Jack, this, it's quite frankly, it's unbelievable, right? It's unbelievable. It's stunning what his
00:31:12.100
support is. And even on what he's doing is absolutely incredible. So the predicate,
00:31:18.580
the predicate is pretty enormous of what President Trump's doing. Now this week, you're actually
00:31:25.640
going to be, because we've got, remember, let's go back to the war room theory of the case. You have
00:31:30.760
to stop the kinetic part of the Third World War. You have to start the mass deportations, secure the
00:31:39.620
border and start the mass deportations, get the 10 to 12 million invaders out of here.
00:31:43.680
Then you've got the existential, you have to get your hands around the budget. All three of those
00:31:48.100
are coming. At the same time, you're deconstructing the administrative state and starting the
00:31:52.660
investigations in the vast criminal conspiracy against President Trump in the MAGA movement.
00:31:56.800
Let's go to the, because I am increasingly concerned, I'm increasingly concerned that we have
00:32:06.580
a little bit losing the plot, not President Trump, but Pete Brown, because I think he's in direct
00:32:12.080
conversation with Putin. You've got Zelensky running around, they're talking about security forces,
00:32:16.240
the British talking about putting troops in. He's offering now minerals, the mineral wealth of
00:32:20.980
Ukraine if America commits to ongoing security commitment, which means troops and money.
00:32:26.800
Where are we? And you've got these big international conferences coming up. Pete Hexas going over.
00:32:32.660
I think the vice president's going to be there. They're going to go to the Munich Security Conference,
00:32:37.220
everybody around. I think you're going over with the Secretary of Defense in that group of reporters.
00:32:44.440
Tell me about what we can plan for. And is somebody getting, because General Kellogg is a guy I love.
00:32:50.780
He's a fantastic guy, a hero, 82nd Airborne, was with us in the first term. I'm not sure I'm digging
00:32:57.160
what I'm hearing coming out of the people giving President Trump options about Ukraine, sir.
00:33:03.360
Well, Steve, this is going to be a huge week for, as you say, the kinetic part of the Third World War,
00:33:08.200
and we're going to be winding it down. The message that's going to be sent this week to NATO conference,
00:33:14.860
as well as at the Munich Security Conference, is going to be the same message that President Trump
00:33:19.820
campaigned on. No more forever wars. The war will be wrapped up. There will be a ceasefire.
00:33:27.100
We already saw in Broker 1 in the Middle East. You're going to see a ceasefire. And by the way,
00:33:31.640
not just a deal to end the war. You're going to see potentially a big deal between the U.S.
00:33:38.140
and the various entities there on the European and Eurasian landmass deciding what should the future
00:33:44.780
security posture look like. Because the real danger here, of course, as we all know,
00:33:50.540
President Trump's only in for four years. You get someone else in there and they start putting
00:33:55.440
the pedal back on again. You could have the same exact situation flare up, exactly as happened when
00:34:01.820
Joe Biden was in. So that's what you really need to look for. So it's all about NATO.
00:34:06.760
It's about Brussels. It's about their influence. And it's about their designs, their desires and
00:34:15.560
their obsession, their obsession with trying to poke the bear to the east as they move the NATO
00:34:21.900
armies eastward, which, by the way, means U.S. backstopped NATO bodies and NATO soldiers and NATO
00:34:29.800
equipment and U.S. dollars and taxpayer dollars and money. So this is where it all comes together,
00:34:35.200
where it all comes together is the Munich Security Conference, Munich Security Conference,
00:34:39.140
where 2009 Vladimir Putin shows up, Putin shows up and says, don't move NATO east. And what did NATO
00:34:43.860
do? They went east, east or east or and more and more and more eastward every single year since then.
00:34:49.300
Then you have Kamala Harris going there just what one week before the outbreak of all of it,
00:34:54.340
almost exactly three years ago. And she says, Ukraine will become a member of NATO. And what happened
00:35:01.120
days later, the tanks rolled into Ukraine. That's how this all started almost exactly three years ago
00:35:08.880
to the day at the Munich Security Conference. So now President Trump has dispatched. J.D. Vance is
00:35:15.020
already on his way there, by the way, with Raheem Kassam in tow with J.D. Vance. You got Pete Hegseth,
00:35:21.320
where I'll be joining. And then Keith Kellogg, who I believe will also be going to Munich and then
00:35:28.080
moving forward into Kiev itself for a sit down with Zelensky. I do expect Zelensky to also be at
00:35:34.960
Munich, potentially the NATO conference, if not him. I'm sure whoever minister of defense that he has
00:35:40.160
for Ukraine will be there as well. But the point being is this. The United States is under new
00:35:45.160
management and President Trump delivered a mandate and a present and a promise, not just to the people
00:35:49.800
of America, but to the people of the world, that the Third World War has been canceled, that it will
00:35:55.520
not occur on his watch and that he is going to put this down. Now, we know that Keith Kellogg's plan
00:36:00.160
was leaked days ago. We're not sure exactly who it leaked. It may have been from the Ukrainian side,
00:36:05.860
but it includes a phased series of talks and series of negotiations, not just between President
00:36:12.240
Trump, Zelensky and Putin, but between Putin and Zelensky directly. So that's going to come out.
00:36:17.860
And we've seen this first negotiation platform come in. But look, Steve, tie it back to the budget
00:36:23.180
deal. Tie it back to the spending. Tie it back to everything that's going on. You want to cut
00:36:28.140
spending and discretionary. The biggest line item that you can find is the Ukraine war. That's where
00:36:33.720
we can cut the appropriation. We can cut spending immediately day one. And so, of course, what are
00:36:40.280
you going to hear? You're going to hear the war lobby come back in saying they're going to say,
00:36:43.460
whoa, whoa, yeah, we're going to end the war. But that doesn't mean we have to end the
00:36:46.340
weapon shipments, right? That's going to be the next play. So the next play that the MAGA posse
00:36:51.480
needs to watch out for when you're seeing these guys go up there and they're lobbying for all
00:36:55.980
this, they're going to say, oh, we need to secure the piece. We need to secure the piece. And securing
00:36:59.980
the piece means more bombs, more bullets, more drones or tanks for Zelensky. That's going to be
00:37:06.860
the next piece of it that you got to pay the money. The American taxpayer has to pay it. And you know
00:37:11.160
something, I think the war room posse would agree with me when I say the American taxpayer is tapped
00:37:16.300
No, in particular, they want the rebuilding, all of it. Here's the negotiating strategy.
00:37:24.080
We're out. Just tell Zelensky, we're out and then let's negotiate. We're out. No money,
00:37:29.020
no troops, no commitment, no focus. Jack, I want you to say this one more time
00:37:34.440
about the Third World War. President Trump and the MAGA movement is doing what to the Third World
00:37:41.120
War right now by acting so tough and so focused. It's canceled. The Third World War is canceled.
00:37:49.140
So there is no, there's not going to be a proxy war that turns into a hot war. There's not going
00:37:54.380
to be this NATO coming in and Russia invades Poland and triggers Article 5 and all this nonsense. And
00:38:03.080
then you got the Bosphorus being opened up by NATO forces and putting pressure on Turkey to do that and
00:38:09.100
come up through the Bosphorus and Dardanelles through the Black Sea. No, no, no, we're not doing
00:38:13.900
it. We're not going down that road. The American people, which, by the way, was the road. We were on
00:38:19.880
the road to nuclear escalation under Biden. And Kamala Harris, who was the same Kamala Harris that
00:38:26.340
spoke at the Munich Security Conference in 2022, that kicked off all of this, would easily have put
00:38:32.300
us on the same path. Why? Because she would have outsourced it to all the people who lost their
00:38:36.920
security clearances over the weekend, like Tony Blinken and Jake Sullivan and all the rest of
00:38:41.900
them, because those were the ones that were running U.S. foreign policy. And by the way,
00:38:46.220
Samantha Power, I'm very sorry about your USAID funding getting completely dried up, because,
00:38:52.000
Steve, that's the other piece of this, is that USAID was funding so much of the propaganda,
00:38:58.320
not just in Ukraine, but all across Europe. And so there's a series. One of the other legs of the
00:39:05.300
stool here is that there are a series of elections, presidential elections. You got Poland coming up
00:39:09.680
in a couple of months in May. You've got Romania after they canceled. The Supreme Court came in and
00:39:14.300
canceled the election. They said, whoa, whoa, this guy got too many TikTok retweets and likes and all
00:39:18.800
the rest and shares. So they canceled their election. Now all of the left-wing media, the left-wing
00:39:24.400
outlets in those countries is falling because their funding is all dried up the minute that they
00:39:29.000
turned off USAID and President Trump went after us. I wonder why it was that all the left-wing
00:39:34.300
media in Europe was being propped up by U.S. taxpayer dollars. And that's why, and I know that
00:39:41.060
Carrie Lake is going to be coming in on the Voice of America side. She's going to be there for Radio
00:39:45.380
Free Europe and the rest of it. I think she should absolutely turn that into a pro-America bastion of
00:39:51.620
freedom and prosperity and the nation state around the entire world, not just in Europe, but to the
00:39:57.900
Lao Baixing in China and all the rest of it. I really think that's a fantastic role. And who better than
00:40:02.680
her to head that up, by the way? But this funding that goes directly to left-wing media is completely
00:40:09.540
People have to understand, they funded the invasion of the United States. They funded
00:40:14.300
the left-wing media that tried to take down all the populist nationalist movements in Europe. They
00:40:19.580
funded the media and the suppression with big tech to try to destroy the MAGA movement and try to destroy
00:40:24.820
a free media really devolving here. They supported the mainstream media. It's outrageous. On Voice of
00:40:31.940
America particularly, and this is every government operation, let's take her example. Carrie Lake
00:40:39.020
either has the flexibility to immediately turn it around to a pro-American, and I mean really pro-American,
00:40:45.500
and get rid of all the spies. There's tons of spies in that operation. Get rid of all the foreign
00:40:52.080
intelligence officers, particularly in the Mandarin language and the Chinese. Vet them all. Get rid of
00:40:57.000
them, right? That don't pass vetting. And I mean then go after them legally, criminally. They're in
00:41:02.880
there. Or I agree with Elon Musk. Shut the whole thing down. Either Carrie Lake can get in there for
00:41:08.020
30 days and say, hey, this is what we can do to turn this thing around, or just shut the whole thing
00:41:13.060
down. It's either going to be pro-American or just don't pay for it anymore. And this should be every
00:41:17.960
division of the government, right? Everything they're looking at, in particular over the Pentagon.
00:41:23.360
If it's not working for America first, it's not working for the American citizen, these things
00:41:28.920
have to be shuttered. I mean, go to zero. This is what I love about what's going on right now.
00:41:33.140
It's the administrative state and the deep state. Ryan Fournier, and I'm getting grace to put, he's
00:41:37.460
tweeting out that CNN's talking about senior Pentagon officials in uniformed military service are already
00:41:45.540
meeting to thwart President Trump, Pete Hegseth, and what Elon Musk, and we've been the biggest
00:41:52.280
advocate across the Potomac. They're already meeting over the weekend, how that's all going
00:41:56.520
to be thwarted. Fournier asks, is that not treason, Jack Posovic?
00:42:03.260
Well, Steve, if you're a uniformed service member, then you fall under the uniform code of military
00:42:09.640
justice, the same way that Vindman fell under the uniform code of military justice. Didn't receive a
00:42:15.700
pardon, by the way, I'd point out. Just asking for a friend if his pardon ever showed up in the mail
00:42:20.840
from Joe Biden there, the same way that we know that General Milley is under the uniform code of
00:42:26.860
military justice, that all the generals, by the way, I also saw that President Trump, as we've been
00:42:31.100
speaking, just fired the heads of the Board of Visitors for the Army, Air Force, Navy, and Coast
00:42:37.040
Guard because he's sick of the service academies and the wokeness that's seeped in there. Look, we went
00:42:43.080
through a long march through the institutions, started under Obama, and then it was solidified
00:42:49.260
under Joe Biden. What they're doing now is shock therapy to the institutions. We will force the
00:42:56.220
institutions of America to become bastions of patriotism for the United States again. That's
00:43:03.080
the military, that's the National Endowment for the Arts, and the 250th coming up, that's even the
00:43:10.540
Jack, I'm going to give you your coordinates, but on the Kennedy Center, I'll talk more about this in
00:43:18.960
the next block. I think the J6 choir, that's the high church of the administrative state and deep state,
00:43:25.500
and he got rid of Rubenstein. He's appointed himself chairman. The J6 choir should come and
00:43:30.780
have a, we should have a special program there. J6 choir and make the, make Lomas the new chairman
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At six, I'm trying to get Roger Kimball and I'm trying to get Lomaz also to come on. This Kennedy Center
00:45:14.740
thing is big, folks. Big. They're crushed over there. That is not, I say it's a clubhouse. It's not. It's the
00:45:22.580
high church of the secular, atheistic administrative state that runs the imperial capital. That's their
00:45:32.420
playground. And to think the Visigoths are going to show up. And President Trump now, as chairman,
00:45:39.940
ought to fire them all, including the staff, and just reprogram the whole thing. I strongly believe
00:45:45.940
you start off with the J6 choir, having them in an evening's entertainment and invite all the first
00:45:53.300
guests that should be invited should be the J6 prisoners. Invite them and their families in
00:45:59.060
evening's entertainment and just watch the meltdown of the Washington elite. Watch the meltdown.
00:46:07.620
An evening. In fact, go on a night they got one of their operas. And look, I'm an opera fan and
00:46:13.460
symphony fan, but go, you got to do this. You got to pick one of their favorite operas. They got
00:46:16.780
things, boom, canceled. We're going to have the J6 choir instead. Oh, by the way, the premium ticket
00:46:23.420
holders down front, you're giving up your seats for the J6 families. Think that'd get their attention?
00:46:30.100
That culturally, you'd break them. And Rubenstein has been replaced by Trump and he's got to be thrown off the
00:46:37.420
board too. Horrible guy. Horrible guy. And a Trump hater, a virulent Trump hater, and MAGA hater.
00:46:49.840
Ben Harnwell from the Eternal City in Europe. I take it Europe, they're not getting the joke of MAGA
00:46:57.700
is recommending to President Trump. And look, President Trump's got many things he's got to
00:47:01.520
balance and he's also empathetic and a good man. He's got a big heart. But you see Zelensky throwing
00:47:06.620
the stuff out with the minerals. Those little snakes over there are trying everything they
00:47:11.400
can possibly do to make America committed to troops, to money for security, and they're going
00:47:20.340
to want trillions of dollars from us for the rebuilding program. The list for the rebuilding
00:47:27.020
program should start in Appalachia, East Palestine, right? Maybe if the people in LA get their act
00:47:33.320
together and cancel the sanctuary cities and the $50 million fund to fight President Trump,
00:47:37.240
maybe even throw LA in there. There's so many parts of the United States that have to be rebuilt
00:47:41.320
if we're going to do that. The money's got to go there. Not a penny overseas on this. Not a penny for
00:47:46.920
Ukraine. Zero. No money for security agreements. No troops. No money. Zero. If Boris Johnson and the
00:47:55.580
guys in London are such big shots, if they're in Paris and in Berlin, it's all yours, baby.
00:48:01.860
President Trump, we're going to cut a deal with the independent, eventually independent Greenland.
00:48:06.440
And we're going to bottle up the Russian submarines up there so they're not a threat anymore. We're
00:48:12.420
going to take the Panama Canal because the people in Panama want us to do it. They're throwing the CCP
00:48:16.000
out. We're going to have the Monroe Doctrine 2.0. The Russian army, the artillery they're so famous
00:48:23.340
for in the tanks, that's Europe's problem. Ben Harnwell, where do we stand in all this?
00:48:28.360
Well, Steve, that's a pretty magisterial synthesis. I'm not sure how I add anything
00:48:32.060
to that. I was listening in the previous segment to you and Poster. I wish I had Jack's degree of
00:48:39.720
confidence here because, of course, that's what everyone expected, that come January the 20th
00:48:46.780
and the inauguration, Trump was going to put an end to U.S. engagement. That's what everyone
00:48:52.520
expected. It's what we've been looking forward to repeatedly for many, many months on this
00:48:57.820
show. But I have to say, with my beady, cynical eyes tracking every single development on this
00:49:08.060
issue, there hasn't been to date publicly revealed a great deal that confirms that expected hope.
00:49:19.160
Look, going back to General Kellogg, last week, he pushed out a note to say that at this
00:49:27.920
Munich security conference, he was going to release something of Donald Trump's strategy
00:49:35.260
for Ukraine. That was walked back, really, by him within 48 hours and said, no, no, actually,
00:49:41.820
you know what? The president himself is going to release this plan when he's ready to do so.
00:49:47.560
I'm just going to be feeding in bits of advice and assisting him to that. I sort of think when
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I'm looking at things like that, Steve, at this stage in the game, I'm not sure a decision has
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been made with regards to Ukraine's future and America's future with regards to Ukraine.
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It could go either way. On the basis of what is publicly out there, it could go either way.
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That is to say, President Trump could decide to continue the former Biden administration
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policy. And to some extent, in the last two weeks, he has actually been doing that on a
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number of fronts. So you mentioned, or Jack mentioned in the previous segment, Munich,
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that's Friday, Saturday, Sunday of this week. Zelensky is going to be there. He's penciled in
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to have a meeting with Vice President Vance. You've got Pete Hegson there as well. Also,
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Wang Yi, the Chinese foreign minister is going to be there. David Lammy, the UK foreign minister
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is going to be there. It's pretty much like the global military industrial complex's version of
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Davos. It's been going for 60 years, 61 years. It is a big thing in that sector. Obviously,
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this time round, all eyes are on it because they're looking for an indication of what President Trump
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is going to decide to do with regards to Ukraine. What you said before in your question, though,
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is a thousand percent, a million percent correct. For the warring posse, this is not a difficult call
00:51:21.740
for him to make. It's total and immediate disengagement. No security. U.S. underwritten security
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guarantees. Europe can do whatever it wants to do. And basically, not even interested in the
00:51:35.360
rare earths or the minerals for security guarantees. That is what a total and immediate
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disengagement looks like. Is there any enthusiasm in Europe, without the United States, is there any
00:51:45.820
enthusiasm for Europe to step in and clean up the mess that they did? President Trump's hands are
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clean here. No blood on them. He would have stopped this whole thing. It would have never happened.
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That's what's so tragic about this. Is there any commitment at all you see in Europe
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to do anything on their own, finally, on this, Ben Harnwell? Anything meaningful, sir?
00:52:06.580
Well, firstly, with regards to President Trump's hands being clean, they were absolutely clean
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on January the 20th. We're now sort of, what, 20 days in, three weeks in. I think in terms
00:52:19.280
of popular psychology, popular perception, if even at this point were he to announce a disengagement,
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there would be a sense of defeat here, surrender. Some of that now will be on him and not on Joe
00:52:35.900
Biden, because the last few weeks have been so impactful. Ben, Ben, Ben, just hang on a second.
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