Bannon's War Room - February 19, 2025


Episode 4279： Exposing The Truth Of The Job Numbers


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On today's show, Stephen K. Banno and Dave Brat discuss the debt ceiling crisis and how to deal with it. They also discuss the possibility of a debt ceiling increase and what it means for the future of the country.

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00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies,
00:00:08.000 because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:11.000 Here's another time I got a free shot
00:00:13.000 at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:19.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:22.000 It's going to happen.
00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:26.000 MAGA media.
00:00:28.000 I wish in my soul,
00:00:30.000 I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:33.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:37.000 If that answer is to save my country,
00:00:40.000 this country will be saved.
00:00:43.000 War Room.
00:00:44.000 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:52.000 Tuesday, 18 February, Year of our Lord 2025,
00:00:55.000 second hour of the morning show.
00:00:57.000 What we're going to talk about here now is going to have major implications.
00:01:03.000 And this is one of the reasons I've been yelling and screaming for Doge
00:01:07.000 to get what I call cross the Potomac,
00:01:10.000 to get to the Pentagon.
00:01:12.000 And Doge is doing two things right now.
00:01:14.000 And we're trying to ascertain, you know,
00:01:16.000 how it's coming out because we need this.
00:01:18.000 That's when Dave Brat's going to join us here in a minute.
00:01:20.000 Because the, how do I say this?
00:01:24.000 The, the cat's kind of out of the back.
00:01:28.000 You've seen the Hill newspaper starting Sunday morning and really coming from the Senate.
00:01:33.000 They're talking about the most important thing, as we've told you, is midnight on the 14th of March.
00:01:41.000 We have a problem.
00:01:43.000 We have an issue.
00:01:45.000 Issue number one, we've already hit the debt ceiling.
00:01:48.000 Janet Yellen told us that in the first couple of days of January.
00:01:52.000 It's kind of her love tap on the way at the door.
00:01:54.000 What does that mean?
00:01:55.000 It means we can't raise any more debt technically, but we're using emergency measures.
00:01:59.000 And as you know, emergency measures can last a long time, could be years,
00:02:03.000 because you can manage the cash flow coming in to pay off your interest and any obligations you have.
00:02:08.000 And then all the way through Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, it all works out.
00:02:12.000 Now, there may be some contractors at the bottom of that waterfall that you have to stretch, right?
00:02:18.000 But hey, you got the Pentagon, you got the DHS, you got some people who have been contractors a long time.
00:02:24.000 And if they get stretched, you know, they get higher payments, etc.
00:02:27.000 So it's doable.
00:02:28.000 Number two, technically on midnight, midnight on the 14th of March is equivalent to midnight on 30 September.
00:02:35.000 It's the same fiscal year.
00:02:37.000 We have not approved a new budget.
00:02:39.000 We're working off of Joe Biden's numbers.
00:02:42.000 And right now, that process is the process that we're going to have to, you know, somehow to pay any bills the next day.
00:02:50.000 And I mean, any bills, you're going to have to have a wait for it, either a CR,
00:02:55.000 or you're going to have to bundle together some of these appropriations bills.
00:02:59.000 Remember, this audience drove the single subject appropriations bills in the house.
00:03:03.000 And Andy Biggs tells us this, and Eli Crane tells us this.
00:03:06.000 I think they've completed seven or eight that are about 80% of the budget.
00:03:11.000 Now, the Senate hasn't exactly jumped in here and done, you know, their job totally.
00:03:15.000 So it's kind of all over the map.
00:03:17.000 But right now, and this is key, at midnight on the 14th, three things will happen if we kick down, and they're talking about the raising the flag right now for a year long CR.
00:03:28.000 Number one, it will be in President Trump's first year, you will have Joe Biden's budget and Joe Biden's numbers and Joe Biden's priorities.
00:03:35.000 Just embrace that.
00:03:37.000 Number two, the Congressional Budget Office tells us, and War Room did its own math, it's at least a $2 trillion deficit this fiscal year.
00:03:47.000 Number three, and here's the one that's as hard as those two are to embrace, the third one to me is the kill shot.
00:03:57.000 All of the work of Doge, and here I'm not talking about their programmatic work of actually taking programs for it.
00:04:04.000 We're talking about all this running around with audits and, you know, the $7 trillion in treasury, you don't know where it's going, and all this, everything, all the dust you see kicked up, all the waste, fraud, and abuse.
00:04:16.000 You would actually technically be paying for that, all of it.
00:04:21.000 None of it would come out, and you would pay for all of it.
00:04:23.000 So all the Doge work to date would be for naught until next fiscal year, and people are already telling me, well, you know, in the appropriations process in July, you know, Doge is going to make presentations, going to be part of it.
00:04:33.000 Not good enough.
00:04:35.000 So we have a mess.
00:04:37.000 Number one, to get that $2 trillion down, which we have to do because it's not sustainable, the Congressional Budget Office came out, and they did a 10-year forecast.
00:04:46.000 And we don't totally agree with everything you say, but directionally, it's correct.
00:04:50.000 Debates about dynamic scoring and all these technical things can make it different.
00:04:54.000 But what they say is you basically have 1.8% growth in over 10 years is $2 trillion a year, right, given the current tax structure.
00:05:02.000 And guess what?
00:05:04.000 In 10 years, it's $52 trillion.
00:05:07.000 And I don't know.
00:05:09.000 Interest is, you know, double what the Pentagon is at that time, time and a half.
00:05:14.000 Neil Ferguson actually has a chart at his new theory of the case is that any nation has an interest payment higher in defense will collapse.
00:05:22.000 It's different than the – this time it's different, which is about total debt to GDP.
00:05:26.000 This is interest payments via defense.
00:05:29.000 We're checking it out, but it sounds, unfortunately, quite logical.
00:05:34.000 So what is President Trump doing?
00:05:36.000 Number one, and tie it back to Rubio's opening statement in his Senate confirmation, the post-war international rules-based order is over.
00:05:44.000 And that is basically spread out to the United States around the Eurasian landmass in NATO and Western Europe, around the Gulf Emirates in Israel and the Middle East, in the Malacca, in the South China Sea, down in Southeast Asia, and up with Korea and Japan.
00:05:57.000 That's the four hot nodes.
00:05:59.000 We have commercial relationships.
00:06:00.000 We have trade deals.
00:06:01.000 But all of it is underwritten by an American security guarantee in American troops or American naval and air forces.
00:06:08.000 Your sons and daughters of MAGA.
00:06:10.000 Now, in every one of those trade deals, we're upside down.
00:06:12.000 Every one of those commercial relationships were upside down.
00:06:14.000 That's for the globalists who make their money doing that where you get gutted.
00:06:18.000 That is what MAGA is saying, America first.
00:06:20.000 We're not doing it anymore.
00:06:21.000 President Trump's geostrategic thinking is that, hey, what?
00:06:25.000 Hemispheric defense is the Monroe Doctrine 2.0.
00:06:28.000 And guess what?
00:06:29.000 We're going to start by taking back the Panama Canal, cut off the Chinese, the People's Liberation Navy from teaming up with the Russians in the Caribbean. 1.00
00:06:36.000 And we're going to go all the way to the Arctic, the new great game of the 21st century, like Afghanistan was in the 19th or Persia was in the 19th between the Russian Empire and the British.
00:06:46.000 This is going to be the Arctic.
00:06:48.000 And in that regard, you have Greenland, maybe Canada.
00:06:52.000 You've already got Alaska.
00:06:53.000 But Greenland to Greenland to the Panama Canal gives a forward deployment of American power, naval power.
00:07:02.000 They block the Russian submarines, the fast attacks and boomers coming out of Murmansk and out of Archangel right there between Greenland and Iceland. 0.89
00:07:09.000 And guess what?
00:07:10.000 The Russian Navy is our baby.
00:07:11.000 We got it.
00:07:12.000 The Russian army, that sounds like a problem for France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and the United Kingdom.
00:07:18.000 You deal with it.
00:07:19.000 You deal with it.
00:07:20.000 This is why we need a peace accord.
00:07:22.000 This is why we need peace between these powers.
00:07:24.000 Now, President Trump, when he looks at geostrategically the hemisphere, also you go to the three island chains in the Pacific in the vast desert that is the Pacific Ocean.
00:07:33.000 And the United States is pretty well protected.
00:07:36.000 You add an Iron Dome if it's even feasible and you have a hermetically sealed hemisphere.
00:07:42.000 You get Bolsonaro down in Brazil and you get Millet out of that crypto mess in Argentina.
00:07:48.000 Got some allies.
00:07:49.000 You run the Chinese Communist Party out of the Amazon.
00:07:51.000 We got it.
00:07:52.000 Now, when you look at that, there's a problem.
00:07:54.000 And that problem is the southern border of the United States of America.
00:07:57.000 And that is a failed state just south of us in Mexico.
00:08:03.000 The Mexican drug cartels are a kinetic force in that plan and they must be eradicated.
00:08:08.000 To make the hemispheric defense work, you've got to take care of your problems inside that hemisphere. 0.94
00:08:14.000 Number one problem, Mexican drug cartels. 0.67
00:08:17.000 Todd Bensman, your reporting on this is amazing because last night the Central Intelligence Agency, I guess it got leaked out, the CIA is now repurposing some assets.
00:08:27.000 And they're looking they're looking to get involved with the Mexican drug cartels in some sort of kinetic activity coupled with you got the 10th mountain.
00:08:36.000 You got the seventh of special forces.
00:08:38.000 You've got guys down training, pre-positioning.
00:08:41.000 What do we have on the war that's coming, folks?
00:08:43.000 And it's going to be a kinetic war against the Mexican drug cartels, sir.
00:08:47.000 Well, the Washington Post is out with a very important story and their reporting usually is good on CIA.
00:08:56.000 And they're saying that the CIA is realigning from protecting Ukraine's borders in its war to protecting our borders down in Mexico.
00:09:07.000 Now, CIA has always been down in Mexico doing, you know, intel operations in support of Mexican and U.S. law enforcement regarding the cartels.
00:09:18.000 But what it looks like here is a major treble down where they're going to really be enhancing and increasing their ability to infiltrate the cartels to provide intelligence against the cartels in a more dedicated, committed fashion, a wider, broader way to do counter narcotics operations with the Mexicans.
00:09:45.000 And possibly even to do covert actions themselves, infiltrating the operatives into the cartels.
00:09:53.000 So this all just fits in with a lot of other puzzle pieces that have been coming out in bits and dribs and drabs here and there about that all kind of point to the fact that the United States is resetting the table for something that is probably going to look like what we did with Colombia.
00:10:14.000 With Colombia against the FARC all during the 90s and into the early 2000s, where the Colombians went to war with FARC, which is a major cocaine smuggling organization and an insurgency against the Colombian government leftists.
00:10:32.840 Of course, of course, it looks like they're going to require the Mexicans to drop their hugs, not bullets policy of the last six, seven years and make it a bullets, not hugs policy. 0.82
00:10:47.260 Hang on.
00:10:47.660 We're going.
00:10:48.360 It looks like that's where.
00:10:49.320 Hit that again.
00:10:49.840 Number one, the Washington Post and David Ignatius is spokesperson, spokesmodel for the CIA.
00:10:55.020 The Washington Post is literally the typist for what the CIA wants.
00:10:59.500 So it's more than it's more than just news media.
00:11:02.280 It's a marketing campaign.
00:11:03.400 It's just what Langley tells them to type up.
00:11:05.740 They type up.
00:11:06.360 So when it comes from the Post, this is holy writ.
00:11:09.920 Number one.
00:11:10.640 Number two, music to my ears.
00:11:12.180 Let's focus on the Ukraine border.
00:11:13.920 The not, you know, not in the vital national interest of the United States, the eastern Russian speaking border between those two Slavic entities.
00:11:21.440 And now focus on our border.
00:11:24.480 And you're right.
00:11:26.560 We've done this before.
00:11:27.660 But now you're seeing special forces and what?
00:11:30.160 The seven special forces group.
00:11:31.820 You've got the 10th Mountain Division.
00:11:33.720 You've got CIA.
00:11:35.060 You've got the air flights going over.
00:11:37.680 Something's happening.
00:11:39.200 Something's getting ready to happen.
00:11:40.680 And they've told the Mexicans, you're not going to hug this one out. 0.98
00:11:43.600 We want to see your best forces.
00:11:45.200 And we got the least corrupt.
00:11:46.680 The federales are all owned by the cartels.
00:11:49.240 So you went to basically one of the naval forces down there.
00:11:52.180 We call them Marines.
00:11:52.980 They call it naval infantry.
00:11:54.920 To really, those are going to be our partners down there when we drop the hammer blow to these folks, Todd Bensman?
00:12:02.060 Yeah, that's right.
00:12:03.060 So the Green Berets sent a small contingent, at least initially, of trainers down into near the Bay of Campeche in the south to help the Mexican Navy train for counter-cartel operations, non-conventional.
00:12:27.920 Which tells you that something is up, obviously.
00:12:33.160 And that particular force, the Mexican Marines, I mean the naval Marines, are probably the most insulated of all the Mexican military forces from corruption.
00:12:47.440 That tells you something that they selected them.
00:12:50.500 They're probably going to be the tip of the spear in whatever happens.
00:12:53.920 Now, I've told you already.
00:12:55.180 Well, they selected them.
00:12:55.940 Number one, these are the guys.
00:12:57.440 Hang on.
00:12:57.700 These are the guys they brought up to the border to secure before 10,000 of them.
00:13:01.600 Todd, you know, this is the one that's the least infiltrated by the cartels.
00:13:04.720 The cartels control the political process down there.
00:13:07.360 The cartels, they are a part of the political landscape.
00:13:13.680 Remember, they tell you it's lead or gold, right?
00:13:15.780 And people down there choose the gold, not the lead.
00:13:17.920 And this is the problem.
00:13:20.060 And the federalities are up to the next.
00:13:21.820 This naval infantry is the least, is the most pristine, you would agree, for actually being a tip of a spear.
00:13:30.540 Folks, bottom line. 0.84
00:13:31.660 When Trump looks at hemispheric defense, he looks at the U.S. Navy, this is a very Alfred Thayer-Mahan strategy, right?
00:13:41.060 All the way from the first island chain over the vast Pacific, Greenland, the gap up there from Archangel, the Panama Canal.
00:13:50.840 But he understands we got our backyard, what we should have done instead of being in Afghanistan and Ukraine and all this.
00:13:58.100 Finally, you have somebody.
00:13:59.640 And they're pre-positioning for a fight, okay?
00:14:02.700 And they're not going to be a law enforcement fight where the cartels actually outgun the cops.
00:14:08.260 You're bringing in some heavies who are going to drop some, they're going to pound, ground and pound these guys like they've never been hit before.
00:14:16.880 And we're going to see how tough the cartel is.
00:14:18.640 The cartel is tough against civilians.
00:14:21.120 They're very tough against the law enforcement that's outgunned by these guys, both on our side of the border, right?
00:14:27.720 Because these people are vicious, and the other side of the border.
00:14:29.860 Hang over a second, Todd.
00:14:31.740 Todd Benzman is with us, the great author of Overrun, a book that changed the direction of the 24 campaign from his years of putting himself in harm's way.
00:14:40.700 Of course, Ben Harnwell's in Roma.
00:14:42.500 I've got Dave Bratt.
00:14:43.280 We're going to talk some economics and capital markets.
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00:16:40.100 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:16:42.260 Bannon.
00:16:44.740 Okay, breaking news.
00:16:46.880 The head of criminal division over at the D.C. under Graves, now Ed Martin's taking control of our good buddy Ed Martin and a friend of the show.
00:16:56.440 Ed Martin is just a man on fire.
00:17:00.960 I think she's resigned.
00:17:02.320 So you're going to see a lot more of these southern districts in New York and D.C. as they clean the rat's nest out of there.
00:17:07.720 I'll try to track down Mike Davis.
00:17:10.500 I think Mike's going to join us tomorrow.
00:17:11.880 In fact, if he's feeling better, he's going to join us actually at the Force Multiplier.
00:17:18.780 CPAC.org.
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00:17:31.080 Poso's going to do his 2 o'clock show there live.
00:17:33.580 We're going to have a ton of information and presenters to make sure that we take you next level given the tremendous, great results you had in 24, the 22 midterm, 24 election, and now getting the confirmations approved.
00:17:49.500 Also, I want to talk – I'm going to go back to Ben and to – Ben's been here in a moment.
00:17:59.080 Bridge Colby.
00:18:00.740 It's not been scheduled.
00:18:01.840 It's kind of a firestorm between, you know, the Tucker Carlson, the Charlie Kirk, kind of the guys on the new right.
00:18:08.520 Kurt Mills, other good – about this guy, Bridge Colby.
00:18:11.680 You know, I do know Bridge.
00:18:13.200 I've read his book.
00:18:13.940 I've talked to him about his book at length, The Strategy of Denial.
00:18:16.460 And Bridge is not a – you know, if you read Josh Rogan's book, Chaos Under Heaven, which is she and Trump in the first term.
00:18:26.380 And he's got – you know, he's got these definitions of groups.
00:18:29.280 He's got the, you know, the accommodationist, which is the Wall Street crowd.
00:18:32.960 You've got the realist, which is kind of the maddest crowd.
00:18:35.260 You've got the hardliners, kind of the Pompeo crowd.
00:18:38.220 And then he said you had a totally new group that had never been done in American history, and that was the Superhawks.
00:18:44.180 The Superhawks were Navarro, Miller, and Bannon.
00:18:46.980 And they don't believe in the legitimacy of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:18:50.380 You want to see the Chinese Communist Party taken down 100 percent.
00:18:53.940 That's why I'm the only civilian in American history ever be fully sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party, as you guys know, one minute after high noon on the 20th of January 2021.
00:19:03.640 Mike Pompeo, Matt Pottinger, Peter Navarro, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:19:07.880 Those three were still government officials.
00:19:10.480 I was not.
00:19:14.560 All of this revolves around the CCP and the threat to the CCP and the criminals in Beijing.
00:19:22.860 We have two existential threats to us right now, our own making our debt in our financial situation and also an existential threat in the Chinese Communist Party. 0.95
00:19:31.500 Bridge Colby is far from perfect.
00:19:34.340 But here's what I like about Bridge Colby.
00:19:35.880 I like this a lot about him.
00:19:37.160 Number one, he's one of the earliest voices of kind of what I call the establishment, because he has an establishment guy.
00:19:43.040 His grandfather is William Colby.
00:19:44.980 You might have heard that name before.
00:19:47.080 By the way, to tie it back to Todd Benson, when Todd Benson, William Colby's grandfather ran the CIA back in the days when it delivered some hammer blows before the church commission.
00:19:57.120 They talk about the CIA in Mexico.
00:20:00.020 A guy named either Lee Harvey Oswald or somebody pretending to be Lee Harvey Oswald actually went to visit, I think, the CIA, and the CIA reported on this in Mexico.
00:20:14.120 I believe, Todd, it was September or early October of, wait for it, 1963.
00:20:18.520 So the CIA has been very involved in Mexico for a long time and knows its way around there, and now is going to be utilized to action for our defense.
00:20:28.100 Bridge Colby is not a super hawk.
00:20:31.920 You can't be a super hawk and be in a position he's going to go in.
00:20:34.320 It's just not.
00:20:34.900 I keep telling my super hawk colleagues, the Committee on the Present Danger, other guys, you know, the Frank Gaffneys and our colleagues who hammer every day about the CCP, the Brian Kennedys.
00:20:43.300 It's just not realistic.
00:20:44.720 At that level, the Pentagon, in this administration, you're going to get a let's take down the CCP.
00:20:50.360 That is our responsibility to continue to drive that narrative to eventually it becomes accepted wisdom here in the imperial capital.
00:20:59.560 We're not there yet.
00:21:00.720 Bridge Colby is about the strategy of denial.
00:21:03.360 That's his book, To Deny Now.
00:21:05.000 It's very focused on East Asia, and he may not look at, as we look at the Chinese Communist Party, as having designs on all the Eurasian landmass.
00:21:11.840 He doesn't think, by our theory of the case, that they really are the controlling element of the mullahs in Persia or the KGB in Russia, and that's why Saudi Arabia, the meeting yesterday, is so vitally important to break them off from their sphere of influence.
00:21:26.480 But Bridge Colby is one of the first guys to say we've got to get out of Ukraine, and this is sensitive.
00:21:31.620 Bridge Colby agrees with, I think, not just Tucker and Kurt Mills, but Stephen K. Bannon.
00:21:35.600 We can't get into a war with Persia.
00:21:37.480 We just can't, given the bad track record we've had over the last 30 years in the Middle East, it's been a disaster. 1.00
00:21:43.640 Right now, there has to be other means, and this is why the Saudi Arabia meeting is quite symbolic, to have it in Riyadh and to have Russia and the United States coming together.
00:21:53.240 There has to be other means than an air attack or a ground invasion into Persia to stop what they're clearly trying to do. 0.94
00:22:01.100 And I say this as a young man that spent a couple of three days off the coast of Persia during the Iranian hostage crisis in the workup for that failed endeavor.
00:22:11.340 And I will tell you, you don't understand that part of the world until you've been there, and you see it's like the landscape from the moon.
00:22:17.480 It's vast.
00:22:18.360 It's barren. 0.97
00:22:18.940 And it's not appropriate for America to go to war in Persia.
00:22:23.220 Just not.
00:22:24.440 And our allies, Israel, there has to be another way.
00:22:28.100 And a guy like Bridge Colby, I think, can work.
00:22:29.840 And this is one of the reasons he's being blown up right now.
00:22:32.280 He's not perfect on China, but he's good enough for right now.
00:22:35.260 He's been pretty perfect on Ukraine, and I think he's pretty damn good on Persia.
00:22:39.100 And right now in that slot, which is an all-important slot, I'm a big supporter.
00:22:44.140 Let's get Bridge in there, and then we'll figure it out because the other alternatives I don't see any better right now given the reality of where we are.
00:22:52.540 So Bridge Colby, and right now they haven't scheduled it, but this is something we'll be reporting on as we go forward.
00:22:59.920 Todd Bensman, the other thing, before we go to the post, anything else on this?
00:23:03.960 Because you've been at the tip of the spear, and, folks, we're connecting dots here.
00:23:07.040 You've got – Hex has sent the military to the border.
00:23:10.040 They're sending training.
00:23:11.420 The 7th Special Forces and 10th Mountain are as tough as we got, right?
00:23:16.580 They're down there training people, quote-unquote.
00:23:18.720 You've got the CIA taking an ad out in the Washington Post saying, hey, guess what?
00:23:23.600 We're listening to War Room.
00:23:26.800 We're listening to MAGA.
00:23:28.100 We're listening to the election results.
00:23:30.260 We're out of Ukraine, and we want to help defend our country against the chemical warfare of the Chinese Communist Party. 0.99
00:23:36.280 We're all in.
00:23:37.740 So that's a big development.
00:23:39.140 It's happening.
00:23:40.260 Now, the deportations, Bensman, you're the first guy to mention – and this gets back to the two bills and not the reconciliations.
00:23:48.360 Lindsey Graham's telling the president over the weekend – this will tie to my breath thing.
00:23:52.540 He told the president on the weekend, say, hey, look, this continuing resolution is not going to have any more money for you than what we need to do.
00:23:59.440 We need to get this one bill done, and we need to get it done now.
00:24:02.500 We need $175 billion to secure the border and to basically – you want to deport 10 million people?
00:24:12.080 You need $175 billion, and you need it now.
00:24:14.340 Now, oh, by the way, let's throw in $125 billion on top of the $900, $125 billion on military, and they're going to say – Banner will shut you guys up.
00:24:28.320 They're going to say this is all for hemispheric defense.
00:24:30.440 You want hemispheric defense, you want the Panama Canal, you want Greenland, you want naval forces, you want to drive out the cartels, you want to have three island chains.
00:24:40.840 That's not in our budget because our budget still ties to the post-war international rules-based order.
00:24:47.120 Todd Bensman, how's deportations going?
00:24:49.440 Any closing thoughts on taking on the cartels, sir?
00:24:53.660 Right.
00:24:54.100 Before I get to the deportations, I just want to point out the Washington Post, which is now breaking the story, I guess, about the CIA troubling down in Mexico, also is carrying a story talking about how, wow, nobody's coming across, but Trump keeps putting troops down on the border, and what are they going to do?
00:25:14.140 They've got nothing to do.
00:25:15.120 They're twiddling their thumbs.
00:25:16.240 But what they're not realizing is that maybe they want to have 500 troops of the 10th Mountain Division in Fort Huachuca as a credible threat to the cartels when kinetics, when fireworks start up down there.
00:25:39.460 Big.
00:25:39.660 Because that's a light infantry division.
00:25:43.060 Yes, they'll probably have them scaling cliffs in Arizona, going after drug traffickers and whatnot.
00:25:49.700 But if the cartels decide to cross in and do something to our law enforcement, et cetera, they're going to be having to contend with these guys.
00:25:58.880 I just wanted to point out that there is a reason other than tracking drug traffickers and shutting down illegal immigration for a group like that to be in Fort Huachuca, 500 of them with all their gear and ammo.
00:26:15.260 So regarding the deportations, I just wanted to point out, like, there is pearl clutching going on around the globe over the fact that we are cuffing and leg ironing immigrants on these flights.
00:26:33.220 Everybody's going crazy.
00:26:34.440 India is just absolutely beside itself with outrage over a couple of flights that came in and everybody was handcuffed, usually young men handcuffed when they come in there.
00:26:48.000 And I just – the New York Post piece that I have out today is just pointing out that there's a damn good reason for that.
00:26:54.300 Just a few years ago, when the Biden administration was trying to shut down the migrant camp under the Del Rio Bridge, they did air deportations on the Haitians and didn't restrain them.
00:27:07.300 And as a result, they tried to hijack flights midair.
00:27:10.480 They rioted on these planes.
00:27:12.220 They tore the stuffing out of every seat and attacked the pilots, attacked ICE agents, mutinied on buses, took over buses that were on their way to Laughlin Air Base for the deportation flights, and they learned their lesson.
00:27:28.340 And I just point out that that is the problem.
00:27:31.420 You don't want to have a hijacking or a riot at 40,000 feet.
00:27:35.680 Hello?
00:27:36.080 Hello?
00:27:37.800 Yeah.
00:27:38.440 Hey, Todd, by the way, the cover of your book is that – from the International Bridge, that amazing picture.
00:27:43.600 This book, one of the most important books of the 21st century, because this book did more than any to show people the reality of what Biden had done at the border.
00:27:53.080 Overrun.
00:27:54.460 How Joe Biden Unleashed the Greatest Border Crisis in U.S. History.
00:27:57.780 Full stop by Todd Bensman.
00:27:59.640 Todd, social media, we got 30 seconds.
00:28:02.000 How do people get to you, sir?
00:28:02.920 Yeah, BensmanTodd at X.
00:28:07.060 I'm on, you know, Getter and Truth Social.
00:28:10.600 You can find me there.
00:28:11.400 That's my website, toddbensman.com.
00:28:14.300 You can sign up for my free newsletter there.
00:28:16.860 Every time I write something, I'll push it out to you.
00:28:19.380 And I work for the Center for Immigration Studies, great organization.
00:28:22.860 They've sent me all over the world covering this mass migration event.
00:28:27.560 Well, hopefully for too long you're going to work for the United States government in town hall.
00:28:32.200 We hope, we pray.
00:28:35.400 Love you, Brother Bensman.
00:28:36.620 Short break.
00:28:37.520 Back to Rome.
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00:30:11.920 Okay, there's a tweet out from Lavrov, I think, on RT, so take it for whether it's worth, that state TV in Russia, but saying how they've already agreed to ambassadors, ASAP, and to take apart any kind of diplomatic restraints on getting together.
00:30:30.800 Why is this important?
00:30:31.680 Look, we're not Rebecca at Sunnybrook's farms.
00:30:34.380 We understand the Russians are as tough as they get the leadership. 0.92
00:30:37.260 They're kind of a follow-on from the Bolsheviks, and Stalin and these guys kind of ran the deal at Yalta and other places.
00:30:43.300 But it's a beginning of a directionally – you've got Europe and Paris talking about their own defense.
00:30:50.500 The key takeaway is that we're not looking for protectorates.
00:30:54.400 We're not an empire.
00:30:55.420 We have a revolutionary basis for this country.
00:31:00.620 We're anti-imperial.
00:31:02.580 And now it's time to start acting anti-imperial.
00:31:07.140 In Paris, what you're seeing is they're having a discussion, and they're coming to the conclusion the smug elites in Europe is they can't afford and never could afford their own defense.
00:31:16.560 This is why we bailed them out in World War I. 0.99
00:31:19.740 We then went back and bailed them out again in World War II. 0.95
00:31:22.200 We then went back and bailed them out again in the Cold War.
00:31:25.860 And guess what?
00:31:26.980 No thanks, total smugness of what the heartland of America did.
00:31:31.820 So now it's time for them to fend for themselves.
00:31:34.140 There's no more – they're not a protectorate.
00:31:36.440 They're not a vassal state.
00:31:37.600 That's not what we're looking for.
00:31:38.720 They're going to come quickly to the conclusion they're not going to have health care.
00:31:42.000 They're not going to have six weeks of vacation in summer.
00:31:44.260 They're not going to have retirement at 50 on full pensions.
00:31:47.700 They're not going to have any of that if they've got to pay for their defense.
00:31:50.500 And they're going to have an awakening of the reality of being an ally, not being a vassal state.
00:31:57.900 At the same time, we pivot here to take care of business in this hemisphere.
00:32:02.640 Ben Harnwell, there's a lot of tough – look, the Russians are as tough as they get. 1.00
00:32:07.200 The guys that run that are just a notch down.
00:32:09.920 They're a little bit the junior varsity criminal sect that the guys in Beijing have perfected, right? 0.98
00:32:16.120 But we've got to deal with them, and it's going to be a tough negotiation, but it's a start.
00:32:19.900 Your thoughts, sir?
00:32:21.720 Steve, you mentioned that the United States isn't looking for protectorates.
00:32:25.440 I have to say, if you look at the Telegraph article from yesterday outlying the plan, supposed plan, the U.S. administration plan for Ukraine and the rare earths and the minerals, which you and I both posted.
00:32:41.260 Oh, God. Don't even go there.
00:32:42.200 The point is that is moving into protectorate territory, plain and simple.
00:32:48.020 That's in your face.
00:32:49.340 So there are different things circulating right now about security.
00:32:53.920 No, no, no, but that's – look, look, look.
00:32:56.420 The minerals, they're not worth it.
00:32:58.100 They're not worth it.
00:32:58.800 Just walk away.
00:33:00.080 We're going to be adamant.
00:33:01.020 Walk away.
00:33:01.600 There's no minerals.
00:33:02.520 This is not – walk away.
00:33:03.700 That's a whole thing to get – you're going to have there.
00:33:05.680 You're going to have to have protection.
00:33:07.000 Walk away.
00:33:07.300 If companies want to do it, God bless them.
00:33:09.420 Let them go over there and do it. 1.00
00:33:10.540 I'm sure that the mineral rights will be something – that's a long-term play.
00:33:13.900 That's to suck you into that.
00:33:16.440 I understand President Trump's thinking he's tired of doing this in Iraq.
00:33:20.180 He's tired of doing it in Afghanistan.
00:33:21.820 He's tired of doing it where the American League has.
00:33:24.420 And you end up, like, costing $9 trillion – the net present value of $9 trillion dollars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and we have nothing.
00:33:31.760 I understand the thought.
00:33:33.280 But in Ukraine, it's just cut it and let's get the hell out of there. 1.00
00:33:36.380 Let the German mining companies, let the French mining companies, the Italian mining companies, let them deal with it.
00:33:43.920 But no, that's not a play.
00:33:47.520 And look, Maloney, here's the key.
00:33:48.780 It's a trap.
00:33:49.240 It was the – it's a trap.
00:33:51.640 Here's the thing, Ben.
00:33:52.580 I've got to bounce.
00:33:53.200 I've got to talk about our debt.
00:33:54.080 But the finance minister of the party that may actually win – it won't be alternative for Deutschland, but it may be the Christian Democrat right – this guy's a pretty low-key guy.
00:34:06.700 He's – I'm pretty sure it's him.
00:34:07.800 He's the one that's saying, hey, sovereign debt crisis.
00:34:09.980 Sovereign debt crisis is – and you know this.
00:34:12.780 The French government got turfed out because of this.
00:34:15.460 The British government got turfed out because of this.
00:34:17.780 The German government's kind of getting turfed out because of this.
00:34:20.880 In Italy, she's eventually going to get turfed out about this. 0.98
00:34:23.400 The bond market has taken out more governments than howitzers.
00:34:27.100 Just remember that.
00:34:28.280 It's one of the things we have to worry about here.
00:34:29.720 When you've got 36 trillion in debt and you're adding a trillion dollars every 100 days, the global capital markets get a vote.
00:34:35.620 And what they're talking about is a sovereign debt crisis.
00:34:37.600 At the very moment they've got to sit there and start talking about the defense they've never paid for in their lives, it's a joke.
00:34:42.300 Ben, we'll get back on this tomorrow.
00:34:44.020 Thanks for standing up late last night to do the breaking news out of Riyadh and out of Paris.
00:34:48.620 We'll have much more of this in the evening show, but Ben, we'll let Ben have the night off.
00:34:52.460 Ben, you're putting up stuff 24-7.
00:34:54.720 Where do folks go?
00:34:56.380 Thanks, Steve.
00:34:57.280 Getter.
00:34:58.440 Getter under my profile at Harnwell.
00:35:00.880 I've got a great article at the top of my feed right now indicating, talking about this thing that Keir Starmer, the UK prime minister, was calling for in Paris yesterday, which was the US stopgap.
00:35:13.440 Basically, the US would be underwriting the UK on the security guarantees.
00:35:19.480 Very, very dangerous territory.
00:35:21.600 And that's following through.
00:35:22.740 No, it is.
00:35:23.540 It's following through on the Biden regime's trickery in its dying days.
00:35:28.700 The Atlanticist, we're a Pacific power, and we're looking for hemispheric defense.
00:35:38.040 The Atlanticist, which I hate to say is kind of racist, but hey, I'll throw it out there.
00:35:43.580 The Atlanticist days are over.
00:35:45.920 We're finished.
00:35:46.620 We don't want to hear about it.
00:35:47.560 And all you get up here in Washington, they don't think the Pacific exists.
00:35:51.660 They don't care about the Western Hemisphere.
00:35:54.500 All they care about is their buddies in Northwest Europe and in places like Paris, places like Milan, places like the City of London and then Greater London.
00:36:04.960 All of it.
00:36:05.760 That day is over.
00:36:06.800 Ben Harnwell, thank you so much, brother.
00:36:09.520 Thanks, Steve.
00:36:10.080 Our outpost in Rome.
00:36:13.240 Dave Bratt, now we bring it back here.
00:36:15.160 Our Wall Street Journal folks understand, big article today.
00:36:18.320 They've targeted our own former co-host, Peter Navarro, Dr. Peter Navarro in the White House.
00:36:23.000 They've targeted Navarro as he's the problem.
00:36:26.020 You know, Trump's got this kind of master plan, but Navarro's the problem, and particularly he's going to destroy the agriculture and manufacturing sector.
00:36:33.560 When the Murdochs come for you, they roll hard, baby.
00:36:36.500 And they're trying to Alinsky.
00:36:39.040 They're trying to Alinsky our own Peter Navarro.
00:36:41.000 Dave Bratt, you've got a whole series of charts and analysis you want to walk us through.
00:36:45.200 What do you got for us, brother?
00:36:47.340 Yeah, well, I love this show.
00:36:49.420 It's like cramming for an exam every time I come on because it's just exciting.
00:36:54.380 And hearing you connect the dots, they all just flow, right?
00:36:57.160 The war to the border invasions to the economy.
00:37:00.180 I think you mentioned the other day Neil Ferguson, right, a great Oxford historian who connects the dots, that when your interest payments get bigger than your defense sector, your economy's in decline.
00:37:15.260 And roughly that's just true intuitively, right?
00:37:17.640 If you look at Western civilization, you need two things to be a successful empire or country or whatever, and that's a sound economy and a strong military.
00:37:27.800 If you're missing any one of those, you're in trouble.
00:37:30.680 Rome got in trouble precisely because they got over their skis, right?
00:37:34.920 Their spending on wars and defense overcame their ability to generate revenues.
00:37:42.480 And so at the beginning of your show, I love the autocratic breakthroughs, right?
00:37:49.080 This is great.
00:37:50.920 Autocratic breakthroughs.
00:37:52.220 And they're accusing Trump and our team of this.
00:37:55.340 The autocratic breakthrough we're doing is we're taking apart the autocracy, right?
00:37:59.960 We're going away from empire toward hemisphere.
00:38:03.300 Go back to Western Civ.
00:38:04.960 Name me an autocrat who doged himself, right, who voluntarily downsized his military, downsized his federal employees, downsized the workforce.
00:38:15.520 I don't think Rome did that.
00:38:16.900 I don't think Napoleon did that.
00:38:18.460 I don't think Lenin, Stalin, Hitler did that.
00:38:21.960 They were all the opposite.
00:38:22.840 And the left wants the big state.
00:38:25.300 Our team is getting it straight.
00:38:26.840 So our interest payments on the debt are not bigger than defense.
00:38:32.140 And the other day on the show, by the way, interest payments over the next decade, the only thing bigger is Social Security.
00:38:38.700 Then the interest payments.
00:38:39.600 Then underneath that, Medicare non-defense discretionary, Medicaid defense discretionary, everything else is under interest payments.
00:38:46.960 Hang on.
00:38:47.280 I just want to make sure people know, Niall Ferguson is a tremendous historian.
00:38:51.200 But the Mac daddy in this, a guy named Paul Kennedy, he wrote a book that was a must-read when I came out of the Pentagon and went to Harvard back in the mid-'80s.
00:39:00.220 It was towards the end of President Reagan's administration.
00:39:02.960 He wrote The Rise and the Fall of Great Powers.
00:39:05.460 If I can strongly recommend to this audience, you get a book.
00:39:09.060 It's in paperback.
00:39:10.200 He's a British naval historian that's absolutely brilliant.
00:39:13.000 He went through essentially – I don't think he does any – he does the history of the West, empires and rising powers.
00:39:20.700 He always ties it back.
00:39:23.160 The fall part comes from this.
00:39:26.000 It comes from you've spent too much money on arms, too much money.
00:39:29.560 You've diverted too many – it plowshares the swords, and it's how you finance it.
00:39:35.760 He gets to the part of it's not just the aggregate amount of what you're doing and the manpower you're killing, right, your own best guys, but he gets into how you finance it, the rise and the fall of great powers.
00:39:47.380 And, baby, it is the United States today, and that's what these elites that run this nation have not got.
00:39:53.080 They have not learned the true lessons of history that have been out there to learn.
00:39:56.860 And this is what America first means.
00:39:59.920 Dave Brat, your thoughts.
00:40:02.000 Yeah, and so the conservatives are dumb to quote our vice president, who I thought was funny the other day.
00:40:09.360 But the laughter is smart.
00:40:11.060 Now, I'm going to get to that in a little analysis here.
00:40:13.360 But the Wall Street Journal, they're just silly, and it's all about framing.
00:40:16.860 On our good friend Peter Navarro yesterday, they say reciprocal trade – they're calling that maximalist tariffs, reciprocal trade, which means just fairness, right?
00:40:28.440 It's like Aristotelian fairness.
00:40:29.940 It's like the golden rule.
00:40:31.160 But hold it.
00:40:31.740 Hey, Wall Street Journal, do you think the golden rule –
00:40:34.180 Hang on.
00:40:34.900 But they're not – hang on.
00:40:36.660 They're not silly.
00:40:38.720 It's actually very well thought to me.
00:40:40.440 Here's the thing.
00:40:41.280 We're not talking about tariffs.
00:40:42.980 This is a new – Trump has a new geostrategic concept.
00:40:49.220 You see it playing out in Saudi Arabia in the negotiation and here with the CIA and the military going down.
00:40:55.220 These are the actions of a new geostrategic realignment.
00:40:58.040 He also has a geoeconomic realignment.
00:41:01.060 It's not tariffs.
00:41:02.040 We're not talking about a 25 percent tariff on a Mexican avocado.
00:41:06.180 We're not talking about a part made under the hood in Canada that goes back and forth 20 times.
00:41:10.540 It's different than that.
00:41:11.520 But he's talking about what we talk about here, that civic society has provided for the greatest market in mankind's history.
00:41:18.220 And Trump thinks like, hey, if you're going to get a skybox at a sporting event or if you're going to get a front row seat at a concert, you've got to pay a premium.
00:41:24.320 To get through the golden door, it's got to be a premium.
00:41:27.460 And if you're not going to pay – if you bring your manufacturing here and make it here, then guess what?
00:41:33.660 You don't probably have to pay the premium.
00:41:35.160 But it is to a degree – the Wall Street Journal is smart to attack this because they're free traders, right?
00:41:41.800 This is the Economist, the Financial Times of London, really the papers and magazines that inspired the Wall Street Journal were built in the time of free trade.
00:41:51.360 These were ideological, almost religious fights in, I guess, the late 18th and 19th century in Britain when London was the centerpiece of the world.
00:42:02.480 And the fights here from the Corn Laws and everything ahead, this was British politics for 150, 200 years.
00:42:08.740 It's one of the reasons we had a revolution.
00:42:10.180 Remember, our revolutionary generation would have been on the ground floor of an empire when Clive and these guys are doing India, they're doing North America, and these guys said, hey, look, we see how a worthless aristocracy has corrupted commons, has corrupted commons, taken it away from the little guy.
00:42:27.120 And they have – they give these monopolies to their buddies like the British East India Company, and they saw this coming.
00:42:34.920 In British history, what's not done enough is the power of these monopolistic companies to basically drive international strategy and geostrategy in North America here.
00:42:45.140 And this is what the revolutionary generation is about.
00:42:47.180 This is what Alexander Hamilton got.
00:42:49.440 Now, he wanted to replicate a little bit later, but these guys understood it.
00:42:53.660 These were smart lawyers.
00:42:54.740 They were real estate speculators.
00:42:56.120 They were freebooters like Sam Adams and John Hancock.
00:42:59.080 They understood exactly what was going on.
00:43:01.260 And they said, hey, guess what?
00:43:02.540 We'd rather opt out even to the point of being hungish traitors to have our own deal here because we see what's happening with this worthless aristocracy in London.
00:43:11.740 We see how the corrupted commons will never be free.
00:43:14.780 We will never be free.
00:43:16.020 We will co-opt it.
00:43:16.920 And that is what we owe the revolutionary and the framers.
00:43:19.900 They had an ability to have a pretty damn good deal, and they risked it all for future generations down to the current day.
00:43:27.900 And this is what this fight's about today.
00:43:29.600 We have almost the exact same fight, right?
00:43:33.120 And now we've allowed these oligarchs in the concentration. 0.96
00:43:35.280 Well, if a revolutionary generation walked into Washington, D.C. today, they'd walk to that square, and they would spit.
00:43:41.740 They'd be so mad about what we've allowed to deteriorate.
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00:45:24.060 Okay, Brett is going to be here this afternoon in studio to co-host both hours.
00:45:30.000 We're going to get to all of his brilliant analysis because I've been yelling and screaming into this microphone and taking away all his airtime.
00:45:37.620 We're also going to have updates on the resistance, you know, the Supreme Court, all the legal, the federal judges, everything they're trying to do on Doge.
00:45:45.380 Brett and I are actually going to take some time, besides his charts, we're actually going to take some time and walk through process.
00:45:51.220 We're going to walk through the CR that's coming, and we're going to talk about the two reconciliations, everything else President Trump and the economic team are trying to do.
00:45:59.840 So that's all five to seven.
00:46:01.700 Plus, we've got a special.
00:46:03.320 I didn't know this until last night in the middle of the night.
00:46:06.900 The manifesto the young woman wrote in Nashville, the Christian school, is not like a three-page document.
00:46:12.820 It's 900 pages.
00:46:14.800 Michael Patrick Leahy is doing an extraordinary job out there in Nashville.
00:46:18.060 He's going to be on.
00:46:19.360 We're going to get into this cult of this, I don't know, this transgender cult that's murdering people. 1.00
00:46:25.780 This stuff's over the top.
00:46:26.900 There's something wrong here.
00:46:28.220 It's happening all over the country.
00:46:29.560 We're going to have some of the experts on to break it all down at 6 o'clock, and Dave Brett's going to be with me besides economics and more updates on geopolitics.
00:46:39.840 Dave Brett, closing thoughts?
00:46:41.580 No charts, Dave.
00:46:42.580 You're going to save them for tonight.
00:46:43.600 This is the hook.
00:46:44.380 The Warren Posse is going to want to be here to see it all.
00:46:46.420 And Brad's going to be with us all day tomorrow in CPAC.
00:46:50.100 CPAC.org slash war room.
00:46:53.160 $76 a ticket all day.
00:46:54.860 You get a hot lunch.
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00:46:57.100 Everybody will be there making presentations.
00:46:58.780 Bill McGinley's going to join us.
00:47:00.640 I think I'm going to try to get Scott Pressler in by video.
00:47:03.240 Brad's going to be there.
00:47:04.400 Grace Chung making a guest appearance.
00:47:07.220 You know what it does?
00:47:08.020 Get Grace out of L.A. 1.00
00:47:09.960 So this is how big it is.
00:47:11.120 Dave Brett, closing thoughts?
00:47:13.660 Yeah, good.
00:47:14.260 The Wall Street Journal article didn't even make a trade argument, right?
00:47:19.060 They first mentioned Navarro's prison term, Hegseth.
00:47:23.100 I mean, great economic analysis, right?
00:47:25.200 Wall Street Journal.
00:47:26.260 And then the buried lead comes out about two-thirds down the article, and they start talking about what they really want.
00:47:31.940 They want exemptions and carve-outs, et cetera.
00:47:35.220 And so that's where I'm saying they're off course compared to the left, right?
00:47:40.780 The left is brilliant.
00:47:42.080 Let me read you a few lines.
00:47:43.120 I'm going to skip all the charts, but I'll just read a few sentences.
00:47:45.460 People may not know this.
00:47:46.720 Economists don't know this.
00:47:47.980 Well, I remember something smart from my training.
00:47:50.120 But back in the days, they changed the definition of manufacturing and investment.
00:47:57.000 And this is going to shock you when you hear this.
00:47:59.420 The definition of manufacturing has evolved over time to include more than just physical transformation of materials.
00:48:06.600 It now also includes services, engineering, logistics, and technology, computers, big tech, et cetera, are now counted as manufacturing.
00:48:15.260 But it's more than that.
00:48:16.420 Capital investment is counted as manufacturing.
00:48:19.200 But here comes the bombshell.
00:48:21.000 Yes, this is all brought to you by artificial intelligence, by the way.
00:48:24.340 Green investment is part of U.S. manufacturing, and it's a key driver of job creation and a more sustainable economy.
00:48:32.740 How is the green investment part of U.S. manufacturing, you might ask?
00:48:37.760 The answer, tax credits, the Inflation Reduction Act, IRA offers tax credits on clean energy, et cetera.
00:48:45.060 So all this, when I show you the charts, Brookings and all of our Fairweather friends are showing, don't worry about it.
00:48:51.140 Manufacturing's still going up, right?
00:48:52.820 It's just employment.
00:48:53.920 All the jobs numbers are going down.
00:48:55.700 Don't worry about those human beings.
00:48:57.880 Manufacturing's going up.
00:48:59.120 Jobs are going down.
00:49:00.040 Well, that's because manufacturing has been redefined by the left in the government statistics.
00:49:05.480 I'm going to get into that with you later today.
00:49:07.980 But if you don't understand that, they can lie with the statistics.
00:49:11.340 You can't lie with the human beings and the jobs, right, because they're easy to count.
00:49:14.780 Very hard to lie.
00:49:15.900 And I'm going to show you charts on that lie at five as well.
00:49:18.460 We'll break it all down, also talk about the deficit debt, all of it in the CR, all the games being played right now,
00:49:26.280 because we can't have austerity for the people and tax cuts for the wealthy.
00:49:30.820 It's not going to work, right?
00:49:31.840 It's just not going to work.
00:49:32.600 So we've got to figure this out collectively.
00:49:34.600 How about that?
00:49:35.840 Dave, Brad, social media.
00:49:37.020 We'll see you here at five.
00:49:37.900 Social media, sir.
00:49:40.020 Yep.
00:49:40.320 Brad, economic getter.
00:49:41.420 And now on X.
00:49:42.540 Whoa, on X.
00:49:46.440 Still ban on X here.
00:49:48.180 Thank you, Dave, Brad.
00:49:48.940 See you at five.
00:49:49.900 Mike Lindell.
00:49:50.640 You bet.
00:49:51.420 It's a very special day for you, sir.
00:49:53.820 We're so glad to have you as a partner and as a friend and a colleague.
00:49:58.160 Why is this day important in the history of Mike Lindell?
00:50:01.480 Well, eight years ago today, February 18, 2017, is the day I gave my life to Jesus Christ.
00:50:08.080 And my book, which, by the way, you're all going to get when you go into CPAC free tomorrow and this week.
00:50:15.340 In my book, I tell the story of that.
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00:50:18.020 It's called What are the Odds from Crack Addict to CEO?
00:50:20.960 I always use mathematics my whole life to prove that God exists.
00:50:24.740 I said, well, what's the odds of that happening?
00:50:26.420 A one in a million or a one in a billion?
00:50:28.780 Or when do you add them together and it becomes a miracle?
00:50:31.840 Well, I remember in 2017 being in the White House.
00:50:34.920 Here's this next crack addict, and I go live with President Trump to the nation, and all my friends at home are going, what is this crack addict doing on TV with the president?
00:50:44.660 Jesus is real because this would be impossible.
00:50:48.280 And so eight years ago today, when those things kept happening, I go, this is, I did a full surrender to Jesus Christ, and I forgave myself for a lot of things that happened way back in the day.
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00:51:08.920 That is something there's no way I could have ever done.
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00:52:08.140 I'm leaving in a few hours.
00:52:09.380 We'll see you tomorrow, Mike, in the Force Multiplier Academy.
00:52:14.780 Thank you, brother.
00:52:15.980 Yeah, thanks.
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