Bannon's War Room - Episode 4347： Trump Putin Call, America Responds To Its Enemies In The Red Sea, Pro-Palestinian Protests At White House

00:00:00.000 Thank you, brother. We're going to play. We got a really great cold open.

00:00:04.060 Jack Posobiec joins us. Natalie Winters is at the White House.

00:00:08.160 Laura Loomer is going to be here. Julie Kelly. First hour is totally packed.

00:00:11.300 Let's get on to it. Let's get the cold open for three straight days.

00:00:19.680 The U.S. blitz on Yemen hasn't let up.

00:00:23.500 The Trump administration first ordered airstrikes on the Iran-backed Houthi militia on Saturday night.

00:00:30.000 Since then, 98 people have been hurt and 53 killed, according to the Houthi-run health ministry.

00:00:38.920 Officials say women and children are among the dead and injured, a claim NBC News hasn't been able to verify.

00:00:45.120 A U.S. defense official telling NBC News the Houthis tried to launch two retaliatory strikes against the USS Harry Truman over the weekend, and both were unsuccessful.

00:00:54.260 An era of peace through strength is back. We will use overwhelming lethal force until we have achieved our objective.

00:01:03.600 President Trump today on social media reiterating his warning that Iran will be held responsible if the Houthis do strike back.

00:01:09.780 Writing, every shot fired by the Houthis will be looked upon as being a shot fired from the weapons and leadership of Iran.

00:01:16.140 Our message to Iran is you better take this president seriously, and I think the Houthis learned that the hard way this past weekend.

00:01:23.240 Iran supports both the Houthis in Yemen and Hamas in Gaza.

00:01:27.720 In 2023, the Houthis started attacking vessels on a key global shipping route just off Yemen's shores.

00:01:33.880 In solidarity, they said, with the Palestinians.

00:01:36.800 Those attacks largely stopped after Hamas and Israel reached a ceasefire deal in January.

00:01:44.340 But after phase one of that ceasefire expired and Israel blocked aid from entering Gaza earlier this month, the Houthis pledged to renew their attacks.

00:01:55.440 Iran's Revolutionary Guard commander over the weekend saying,

00:01:58.260 we stand firm against any threat and will respond in the strongest possible way.

00:02:03.380 A firm, crushing and devastating response.

00:02:05.920 We begin today with a phone call that Ukraine and our allies and those who care about our standing as the world's leading democracy for now

00:02:15.060 have been waiting anxiously and with bated breath to hear about.

00:02:19.740 Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin spoke for more than an hour and a half today.

00:02:23.760 Both the White House and the Kremlin have released a readout of the call on their own.

00:02:28.180 A readout of the call from the Kremlin says that Russia has agreed to a 30-day ceasefire on attacks on energy infrastructure.

00:02:35.260 The White House also made note of that, saying this, quote,

00:02:38.460 The leaders agreed that the movement to peace will begin with an energy infrastructure ceasefire,

00:02:44.160 as well as technical negotiations on implementation of a maritime ceasefire in the Black Sea,

00:02:50.380 full ceasefire and permanent peace.

00:02:53.060 These negotiations will begin immediately in the Middle East.

00:02:56.160 The White House also touted the potential for economic cooperation with Russia, as did the Kremlin.

00:03:04.480 It remains to be seen if Russia keeps its word on refraining from attacking Ukraine's energy grid and infrastructure,

00:03:11.640 and notably absent from these announcements made after the call were any signs of any concessions from Russia

00:03:18.140 or any talk of any possible punishment for Russia.

00:03:22.280 In short, there were carrots, but no sticks.

00:03:26.600 In just the last few minutes, President Zelensky reacted to that, to news of the phone call.

00:03:30.800 He said he's open to a ceasefire on attacks on energy infrastructure.

00:03:35.660 But Zelensky reiterated that talks about Ukraine without Ukraine will not bring results.

00:03:41.080 He also warned that the Kremlin's demand that foreign aid and intelligence sharing with Ukraine come to an end,

00:03:48.240 sought to weaken his country.

00:03:50.180 Former Trump National Security Council staffer Alexander Vindman called it a, quote,

00:03:54.600 terrible deal, adding this, quote,

00:03:56.920 I don't understand how Trump, who is four years under his belt with Putin, constantly gets played.

00:04:03.420 Trump moves to normalize relations with Russia for trinkets.

00:04:07.300 The ceasefire, if it starts and Russia doesn't violate it, disproportionately helps Russia,

00:04:13.000 whose energy infrastructure is getting pounded by Ukraine.

00:04:16.220 For 35 years, six Republican and Democratic administrations has succumbed to manipulation.

00:04:22.760 Russia has been extremely successfully dangling small winds and threatening terrible consequences 0.88

00:04:28.200 to get the U.S. to compromise and capitulate.

00:04:31.340 But no one has been played as hard as Donald Trump.

00:04:35.020 I think it's quite clear that Vladimir Putin is a much more skillful negotiator on these strategic issues

00:04:42.940 than Donald Trump could ever be.

00:04:45.740 And I think what Vladimir Putin is doing is continuing to play Donald Trump

00:04:50.380 and try to sort of tease him along this path where Putin is ultimately going to be seeking

00:04:57.580 a lot of concessions on the part of Ukraine.

00:05:00.420 And so the question is, what will Donald Trump do as Putin continues to press this issue?

00:05:07.480 But it's in my mind, it's clear that there is so much more work that would need to be done

00:05:12.560 in terms of other negotiations, whether it be on ceasefire on the ground or maritime or air,

00:05:17.720 whatever else.

00:05:18.900 But I think ultimately we're going to be looking at what type of terms will Trump agree to?

00:05:25.460 And I'm not talking about President Zelensky, because I think he is a very principled individual

00:05:30.760 who will oppose anything that smacks of surrender.

00:05:34.840 But the question is, will Trump be able to stand up to Vladimir Putin as Putin continues to,

00:05:40.680 I think, outmaneuver him on the negotiation chessboard?

00:05:43.940 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:05:51.820 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:05:57.060 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:06:01.320 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:06:03.220 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:06:04.660 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:06:07.340 It's going to happen.

00:06:08.600 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:06:12.020 Mega Media.

00:06:12.920 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:06:18.800 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:06:22.540 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:06:28.940 War Room.

00:06:29.760 Here's your host, Stephen K. Banff.

00:06:37.920 It's Tuesday, 18 March, year of early, 2025.

00:06:40.880 We're going to go to the White House momentarily to our own Natalie Winters.

00:06:45.480 The president has been signing executive orders, but it closed the press.

00:06:49.500 We won't get that footage for a while, so we'll let you know as soon as we've got the footage, if at all, because I don't think he's doing a press event.

00:06:55.240 But we'll see what he might have just been talking to the White House camera.

00:06:58.500 We'll see about all that and what the EOs are.

00:07:00.440 But historic day at the White House.

00:07:02.900 Jack Posobiec joins us.

00:07:04.560 Jack, I want to get into the geostrategic of why are we in the Red Sea?

00:07:09.440 Why do we have carrier battle groups down there? 0.94

00:07:11.940 Why are those carrier battle groups doing strikes in the southern Saudi Peninsula?

00:07:17.660 But first, the historic phone call between Putin and President Trump.

00:07:24.220 Nicole Wallace hates it.

00:07:25.940 Vindman hates it more.

00:07:27.580 Brennan hates it more than that.

00:07:29.380 All the haters.

00:07:30.360 But the person who hates it most, I think, is Zelensky.

00:07:33.820 Am I correct in that gradation, sir?

00:07:36.580 Well, Steve, this phone call is nothing short of historic, and there's no surprise to me that the globalists and their puppet apparatchiks are clutching their pearls and the Chinese Communist Party is sweating bullets.

00:07:52.000 Because those people at the higher level, not the Vindman level or the Nicole Wallace level, they don't get the geopolitical grand strategy masterclass that Donald Trump is embarked in right here.

00:08:07.460 This is—look, look, Mackinder and Mahan didn't mess around with feelings, okay?

00:08:12.080 They mapped out power.

00:08:13.460 And that's something that President Trump and his team completely understand, by the way.

00:08:19.280 From the Red Sea to the Black Sea, down to the Panama Canal, looking up at the GI-UK gap at Greenland and all the rest of it. 1.00

00:08:28.460 This phone call where they discussed the ability to have this ceasefire—they've already announced, by the way, a ceasefire on what energy infrastructure.

00:08:37.480 What have we told you this whole thing was about from day one was about energy infrastructure?

00:08:42.780 Everybody misses.

00:08:43.540 They say, oh, Burisma, Burisma, Hunter Biden.

00:08:45.740 Okay, but what was Burisma, all right?

00:08:47.740 It was a Ukrainian gas company.

00:08:50.880 It's always been about the oil and gas products in the Black Sea region, the Donbass, a key area, key geography for this, of course.

00:09:00.920 And, you know, like I always say on Human Events Daily, the French say, cherchez la femme.

00:09:06.320 We say, cherchez la petrol.

00:09:08.380 Look for the oil.

00:09:10.880 Understand what this is all about.

00:09:12.460 Oil is still king.

00:09:14.120 That's what Iran is all about. 1.00

00:09:15.520 That's what the Persian Gulf is all about.

00:09:17.780 That's what the Red Sea is all about.

00:09:19.420 That's what the Houthis is all about. 1.00

00:09:20.880 That's what it comes down to.

00:09:22.580 So when you're looking at a potential geopolitical grand strategy here, look, it is, and people will say, it is all about the rise of China.

00:09:31.320 You've got three great powers in the world right now, the United States, Russia, and China.

00:09:36.600 And President Trump is attempting to effect a second Sino-Soviet split along Kissingerian lines, but in the opposite direction.

00:09:45.940 Peel Russia away from China. 0.97

00:09:48.380 Why?

00:09:49.020 Because China is the heartland empire that Mackinder had warned about.

00:09:54.000 That China is attempting to become the heartland empire that controls the world island, who rules the world island, and can then run the entire world. 0.58

00:10:03.040 But you cut Russia off from that, and then you shut down the Middle East, which, by the way, is another discussion that President Trump and Putin, because I read the White House readout, and I read the Kremlin readout on this.

00:10:15.000 And they both talked about what?

00:10:17.100 The Black Sea and the Middle East. 0.58

00:10:19.040 Steve, it's so simple.

00:10:20.180 The Middle East, that's Mackinder. 1.00

00:10:22.220 That's the world island.

00:10:23.840 The Black Sea, what are you talking about there?

00:10:25.960 It's Odessa.

00:10:26.860 We've always talked about Odessa, and Odessa is the Mahanian fulcrum of the Black Sea.

00:10:33.280 If Odessa becomes a potential joint ownership, or as the British used to say throughout the 1800s, the 19th century, a treaty port.

00:10:43.600 If Odessa becomes some kind of treaty port where the Russians and the Ukrainians both have access to it, then that's game over for the Chinese Communist Party in Europe.

00:10:52.840 That's game over for them in terms of the Belt and Road Initiative through Europe.

00:10:56.840 That allows the United States to be standing completely in their way.

00:11:01.680 And President Trump gets that in a way that I think few and certainly nobody in mainstream media understand.

00:11:07.380 No, in the 19th century, you talk about the great game, one of the great land wars in Crimea, the Charge of the Light Brigade, Sebastopol, all of it.

00:11:18.780 But, in fact, I think it was McClellan was seconded over there as a military observer.

00:11:25.940 Absolutely huge.

00:11:26.960 And I would say if you add that into the—

00:11:28.920 And then in the 1940s, what else is in Crimea is Yalta.

00:11:32.100 Yalta, of course, takes place on the Crimean Peninsula.

00:11:34.820 There's no question.

00:11:35.420 Also, if you look at the hemispheric defense, don't forget Venezuela, which is kind of maybe the Exxon-Chevron wars for the oil and gas there.

00:11:48.480 This could very much be about oil and gas.

00:11:50.300 The Barry Lee today was about—and you could see Nicole Wallace almost spit it out of her mouth—the underlying economic deal that's going to be here. 1.00

00:11:58.780 This rapprochement will very much be based upon some sort of economic relationship between the United States and Russia and between Russia and Western Europe.

00:12:08.400 Will it not, sir?

00:12:10.300 Well, Steve, we've already seen the reports in Bloomberg last week about the U.S. potentially allowing for Gazprom to conduct exploration

00:12:19.780 and perhaps joint deals between Gazprom and maybe Exxon, maybe some of the other U.S. oil explorers out there.

00:12:30.080 We also saw some of the Russian assets are now being allowed potentially to be traded again by U.S. bond traders and U.S. asset traders.

00:12:39.260 So this is a huge piece of it, that coming out as well.

00:12:42.380 Look, President Trump and Secretary Besant, by the way, that's why Secretary Besant went over there to Kiev with this mineral deal.

00:12:48.120 They understand that if you tamp down the economic side of this, what does it do?

00:12:54.040 It cuts down inflation, which is only going to help everybody.

00:12:57.240 It's going to cool all of the oil prices, and that's going to in turn cool the Middle East. 0.76

00:13:02.320 That's why the Middle East is inflamed right now, because the price of oil is still high.

00:13:05.180 It's starting to go down a little bit, but it hasn't come up so much.

00:13:08.100 That's why all of this is going on anymore.

00:13:10.200 So look, the United States can't afford to be sitting there babysitting Europe, babysitting the Middle East, 0.98

00:13:15.400 and worried about the rise of the Chinese Communist Party all at the same time.

00:13:19.580 We don't have infinite money.

00:13:21.760 We're going to need partnerships in this.

00:13:24.000 So that's what President Trump's strategy is.

00:13:26.300 It's a win-win-win strategy that allows us to actually, for once, focus on the real picture here,

00:13:32.660 and that has always been, as we've always said here on The War Room, the Chinese Communist Party.

00:13:37.780 Jack, I want to hold you through this.

00:13:42.000 I'm going to go to the White House.

00:13:42.960 But your book, you wrote a book that had made the characters that are coming out to the forefront in it unhumans.

00:13:49.620 Where do people get the book?

00:13:50.880 Because it's probably a more prescient read today than even when you publish it.

00:13:56.060 Look, if you want to understand what's really going on right now, every time you look at the news,

00:14:00.520 go to unhumansbook.com.

00:14:02.740 You can get the signed copy, the limited edition copy, up on Amazon as well.

00:14:06.900 It still does very, very well on there.

00:14:08.980 The book is Unhumans by myself, co-authored with Joshua Lysak, and a foreword by Stephen K. Beckman.

00:14:15.780 By the way, it got to number 9 or 10 on the New York Times bestseller list.

00:14:21.300 How high did it go?

00:14:23.780 It was New York Times bestseller list.

00:14:25.840 I have to check the number off the top of my head.

00:14:29.080 Okay.

00:14:29.600 But yes, it was New York Times bestseller.

00:14:31.240 They tried to keep it off, Steve.

00:14:32.400 They tried to keep it off, but the War Room posse wouldn't let that happen.

00:14:36.900 They put some muscle to it.

00:14:38.640 Jack Posobiec is going to stick around.

00:14:40.520 We're going to talk about Persia and the Houthis. 0.59

00:14:44.280 Natalie Winters is at the White House.

00:14:46.280 We're going to go there.

00:14:47.060 Laura Loomer is going to join us.

00:14:48.280 Julie Kelly is going to join us.

00:14:49.600 Mo Bannon is going to join us.

00:14:51.000 Wow.

00:14:51.560 What an hour here.

00:14:53.760 The 5 o'clock hour.

00:14:55.340 The War Room.

00:14:55.800 Short break.

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00:16:11.980 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:16:17.600 We're going to go to Natalie Winters.

00:16:20.200 Here's another historic day at the White House, although a little bit in lockdown because today, through the executive orders, I don't think President Trump had a press avail.

00:16:30.800 Our Brian Glenn was not there, and he said no press was open.

00:16:34.380 On the sound check, it's pretty noisy there at the White House.

00:16:39.460 What's going on, Natalie?

00:16:42.420 Well, I think it's important to underscore that President Trump was actually kind enough to essentially reopen the street that is in front of the White House.

00:16:49.960 So now tourists and everyone can come up, take pictures in front of the gate of the White House, which I think when you look at the threats that President Trump is facing, it shows you just how, I think, caring he is, right?

00:17:00.620 Allowing people to actually come and see the People's House, not Joe Biden's version of it, where they kept people at arm's length and very, very far away from it.

00:17:07.580 But as a result, you can probably hear, because it's really loud, and it might very well be the largest Palestinian flag that I've ever seen, which gives you maybe just a bit of a teaser of the type of people who are out there.

00:17:19.620 But they're screaming all about no more war, no more intifad.

00:17:22.580 Intifad is it's a demonstration that's supposed to start at 7 p.m.

00:17:26.360 From what I'm hearing from a lot of sources on social media, it's supposed to be a rather large demonstration, I think, in part having to do with what's going on with the Columbia student Mahmoud Khalil being deported.

00:17:37.380 But also, of course, maybe the United States continuing to arm Israel is one of their major gripes.

00:17:42.220 And I guess they're probably just upset, too, about what happened today with President Trump's phone call with Russia.

00:17:47.220 I also think it's important to underscore, I think, from my perspective, one of the biggest and I think most consequential impacts of that statement that came out of the conversation that they had is the idea that the United States does not just automatically have to be at odds, at war, have a confrontational position towards Russia.

00:18:06.320 I think that's something, frankly, you can link it back to what happened yesterday, right?

00:18:09.820 It is the reversal of America's managed decline, whether it's going to the Kennedy Center, rewriting a ship, rewriting the course that people didn't think could be changed around from the cultural aspect.

00:18:19.160 That same sect of very swampy, culturally elitist people are the people who've made millions of dollars off of the idea that Russia is our most foremost adversary.

00:18:28.040 Not to say that they're the good guys, but they're also not people that we need to needlessly and senselessly attack, whether it's through think tanks or foreign laundered money at all these groups.

00:18:36.020 So I think that that was a really, really important kind of buried lead in the statement that came out today, but something that is also really, really ticking off the D.C. swamp crowd.

00:18:45.380 But I guess that's what we voted for.

00:18:49.300 The, you know, on all the clips we looked at today, we couldn't get one clip on mainstream media that was not seething about this phone call.

00:18:56.480 I mean, the hatred from the contributors to the guests to the host was just coming through.

00:19:01.300 Was it the same for our beloved White House press corps there, ma'am?

00:19:06.020 Oh, yes.

00:19:09.120 I was just actually in the briefing room.

00:19:11.840 You know, I like to eavesdrop, listen to all the conversations.

00:19:15.480 I think as I was walking out, someone just said, it's really tough today.

00:19:19.260 And they were commiserating and they were very, you know, they got the long faces.

00:19:23.580 They're all dejected.

00:19:25.300 No offense.

00:19:25.960 There's a few of them standing next to me right now.

00:19:27.780 I think they probably stand in solidarity with a lot of the protesters outside.

00:19:31.160 So they probably aren't too upset about their shots being garbled by the audio there.

00:19:35.840 But inside the briefing room, I think a lot of people are not too happy that President Trump dared to engage with, let's be frank, the country that they tried to use as a cudgel and as a weapon to smear him with for years.

00:19:48.400 Right. And it's not just that they did that themselves, but a lot of these media entities, whether it was the OCCRP, all these USAID subsidized journalist organizations, it's all one big racket.

00:19:59.860 But I guess it was finally exposed today for what it was.

00:20:02.420 We're going to come back to you on the courts, had a USAID, I think, ruling today about everything going on there.

00:20:10.800 Let me go back to Jack Posobiec.

00:20:12.540 Jack, there's a lot.

00:20:13.740 I'm going to go back to Natalie at the White House in a second, but I wanted to close this with you.

00:20:17.580 There's a lot of consternation, particularly among the MAGA right.

00:20:20.780 Right. They're kind of confused about why we got carrier battle groups in the Red Sea.

00:20:26.920 Why are we keeping the Suez Canal open for the Royal Navy and the French Navy and the Italian Navy?

00:20:33.700 Why are they not down there?

00:20:35.480 Why are we so aggressive in this bombardment of the Houthis?

00:20:38.660 Because it's pretty wild what's going on.

00:20:41.280 And also in the ether right now is this whole discussion, not just as the Israelis and IDF unleash on the Muslim Brotherhood,

00:20:49.020 but there's all these questions now about Persia, about airstrikes and nuclear facilities, maybe ground forces.

00:20:54.940 A lot of the MAGA right are quite concerned of this situation, particularly when President Trump and Caroline Leavitt and everybody's saying,

00:21:02.580 hey, every time we're pounding the Houthis, we're pounding Persia because they're a Persian proxy, which we know. 1.00

00:21:09.920 Your thoughts on that?

00:21:10.900 Are we getting sucked into, as we're trying to get out of the war on the Eurasian landmass,

00:21:16.020 are we getting sucked into one in CENTCOM in the Middle East, sir?

00:21:20.620 Well, look, Steve, there's a couple of elements at play here.

00:21:23.300 Of course, there's the proximal cause of this being the Houthis being able to effectively close the Red Sea to European commercial shipping, 0.91

00:21:32.920 as well as American, any shipping that we want to have through.

00:21:36.160 And again, this is about the sea lines of communication going off of all the way back to,

00:21:40.420 look, this is how the British Empire ran things back in the day, right?

00:21:42.840 The Suez Canal, Strait of Malacca, Singapore, and then going down to the Red Sea itself and all the way around,

00:21:50.120 the Persian Gulf, Strait of Hormuz.

00:21:51.620 This is why you need to keep the sea lines of communication open.

00:21:55.840 That is a key role of the United States Navy.

00:21:58.720 And by the way, has been a key role of the United States Navy since the time of Teddy Roosevelt.

00:22:02.780 And even going back to Thomas Jefferson, instituting the, really just commissioning the original United States Navy to go after the Barbary Pirates in the 1700s.

00:22:13.920 So, yes, the United States.

00:22:14.940 But, yeah, but hang on.

00:22:17.080 But I understand that.

00:22:19.120 But in America first, this, the Red Sea, the Suez Canal, and coming around outside the Straits of Hormuz, 0.69

00:22:28.860 that's a Middle Eastern or Asian and European issue.

00:22:32.900 That's not an issue for citizens of the United States.

00:22:35.800 We've got a trillion dollar defense budget.

00:22:38.620 I don't understand why we're down there and you've got one British destroyer, one French frigate, and one Corvette from Italy.

00:22:48.960 They're not doing the airstrikes.

00:22:50.320 They're not putting their sailors in harm's way.

00:22:52.480 And I tell you, we are eviscerating the Houthis right now. 1.00

00:22:55.480 Or at least we're dropping a lot of weapons on them.

00:22:59.960 Why are we doing this alone?

00:23:01.680 I understand we've historically tried to keep the sea lanes open, but it's a new day.

00:23:04.980 So, what are the Europeans going to do after they gave all their ordnance to the Ukrainians and the Ukrainians lost all of it 0.60

00:23:11.200 and these ridiculous charges like the invasion of Kursk or the counteroffensive of 2023, the rest of it?

00:23:18.700 Europe is spent.

00:23:19.780 Europe is broke militarily.

00:23:21.560 All the Warsaw Pact stockpiles are gone.

00:23:23.900 The new stuff is gone.

00:23:25.180 What are they going to actually do?

00:23:26.040 Hold it.

00:23:26.500 Brother, brother, hang on.

00:23:27.920 Hang on.

00:23:28.240 Whoa, whoa.

00:23:28.840 They just – they talk smack.

00:23:30.840 They talk all this smack of what they're going to do with Ukraine, what they're going to do with Russia.

00:23:33.860 Sir Somers got sent troops into Ukraine to guarantee the ceasefire.

00:23:37.440 Yeah, I'll buy – I've got a bridge in Kirch to sell you for that one.

00:23:42.500 Well, 10 days ago, I was sitting there telling the host that, hey, all this talk is irrelevant because you guys are close to a sovereign debt crisis.

00:23:49.480 You can't afford this.

00:23:51.300 You can't even come close for it.

00:23:52.240 Since then, Sir Kerr has said, hey, we're going to have to cut social services to support the Ukraine.

00:24:02.340 And one of the financial figures in the EU said yesterday, he said, look, all these nations are near a sovereign debt crisis.

00:24:07.640 If they actually went with the French's plan for Ukraine, they'd all be broke.

00:24:12.980 So it's just fantasy we're talking about, but it seems like in the non-fantasy part, the non-cosplay part, the real part, the United States is getting more and more engaged in another Middle East war, this one on the Arabian Peninsula, sir, soon to lead to back to Persia.

00:24:30.860 Oh, look, Steve, this is where – and this is what I was saying earlier.

00:24:34.520 This is what I was saying earlier.

00:24:35.460 That's not in the interest of the United States to go to war with Iran.

00:24:38.720 I was here, what, a week or two ago talking about how the magnitude of a ground war with Iran or any U.S. war with Iran would be just absolutely catastrophic.

00:24:48.300 It would be far beyond anything that we saw in Iraq or Afghanistan.

00:24:51.500 It would not serve the interests of the American people.

00:24:54.000 But, oh, by the way, who has influence over Iran that President Trump might be able to afford a rapprochement with?

00:25:02.080 That's right, Vladimir Putin, OK?

00:25:05.060 That's why talking about the Middle East – what do you think they're talking about?

00:25:09.680 Were they just shooting the breeze?

00:25:10.700 No, they're talking about Iran.

00:25:13.120 They're talking about the mullahs because what just happened with the mullahs?

00:25:16.300 They just lost Assad, OK?

00:25:18.000 So they don't have the Shia Crescent anymore connecting Iran and Iraq all the way to the Mediterranean.

00:25:23.460 That's gone.

00:25:24.120 And who didn't back Assad, by the way?

00:25:25.980 The Russians didn't back Assad at the end.

00:25:27.960 And the IRGC has publicly rebuked Russia for not backing Assad when the headchoppers of HTS were coming down and taking over.

00:25:36.960 By the way, the same headchoppers that are still killing Christians. 1.00

00:25:39.640 And even CNN ran a report on it just yesterday because it's been so insane.

00:25:43.080 You heard it about here on The War Room, what, 18 days ago?

00:25:46.140 We're telling you about – CNN's finally catching up to what War Room talked about on a Saturday morning.

00:25:51.080 Just for a little phone over your morning, Froot Loops.

00:25:54.300 But when it comes down to it, that's why the rapprochement with Russia is so important right now.

00:25:59.980 Because he can put the pressure on the mullahs at a time when they're already isolated. 0.92

00:26:04.920 They just lost Assad.

00:26:06.520 Hezbollah is getting pounded.

00:26:08.420 Hamas, of course, is being decimated.

00:26:10.540 We've seen the bombing runs throughout Gaza.

00:26:12.480 Go look at the videos on Telegram.

00:26:14.140 The charred out bodies and cars everywhere.

00:26:17.700 So this is a time where Iran needs Russia. 0.88

00:26:21.900 And Russia understands this.

00:26:23.940 Putin understands this.

00:26:25.540 So Trump's going to go to him and say, hey, you're going to yank the chain and put those guys back on the leash immediately so we can put this whole thing to bed.

00:26:33.820 And then we'll figure out what we're going to do coming forward.

00:26:36.720 That's also why, by the way, when I talked about the Gazprom U.S. deal, and I know the globalists are going to hate me saying this.

00:26:44.180 Guess what?

00:26:45.000 Anything that lowers the price of oil also lowers the ability of force projection for Iran.

00:26:52.000 It's just that simple.

00:26:53.820 You want to cut the Houthis off at the knees, lower the price of oil.

00:26:58.280 Jack Posobiec, how did they get to Human Events Daily?

00:27:04.140 How did they get to your always-on-fire social media account?

00:27:07.680 We're up at Human Events Daily.

00:27:08.820 We had a great discussion, great Lenten discussion today about the phrase Christ is King.

00:27:13.740 And you can check that out wherever podcasts are found, Human Events Daily.

00:27:18.460 Christ is King doesn't offend anybody.

00:27:20.640 That's the old—that's from the Crusades, is it not, sir?

00:27:23.960 It certainly is and even predates that.

00:27:25.820 But apparently there was some—one of these left-wing-aligned groups and strange names like Jordan Peterson associated with it,

00:27:32.700 saying that there was a problem with that phrase.

00:27:34.160 It's very, very odd timing coming in Lenten season.

00:27:36.740 But you know what they say, Steve, during Lent, the Lord challenges us.

00:27:42.240 Jack Posobiec, thank you for sticking around today.

00:27:45.160 Fantastic.

00:27:45.720 Great work.

00:27:45.980 God bless.

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00:30:16.960 President Trump just came across the wire, Reuters.

00:30:19.600 President Trump terminated, fired the two Democratic individuals, members of the Federal Trade Commission.

00:30:26.420 President Trump, I think, getting tough on monopolies.

00:30:31.900 He's got a real neo-Brandeisian group there going after big tech.

00:30:37.280 In fact, Natalie, tomorrow we'll talk about your day at the conference.

00:30:41.400 But now, whereas the battlefront in the geopolitical war is at sea, in the air, on the land, with troops and weapons, as President Trump tries to bring peace to the Eurasian landmass against the Trump administration and taking down the deep state and the administrative state, is in the courtroom.

00:31:01.580 Can you give us an update from your perch at the White House, ma'am?

00:31:04.720 Sure. Well, I just want the audience to know that I was in the belly of the beast today.

00:31:11.620 I had to deal with all the tech bros, all the transhumanists listening to them and their thoughts about how they're going to terraform this earth and to comport with whatever crazy ideas they have. 0.99

00:31:21.980 We will discuss that tomorrow because I need an ROI on having wasted hours of my life among all those people.

00:31:28.560 But two, the issue of lawfare, which, of course, is the thing itself, which I think at this point, Steve, the question is, can someone please find me a judge who's not an activist, someone who doesn't actually have any conflicts of interest, either through themselves, their family members, their children, their finances?

00:31:46.460 And the latest example of this is a judge out in Maryland who just essentially struck down the ability to dismantle USAID, saying that it was unconstitutional.

00:31:55.460 Well, it's so interesting because Theodore Chang, well, his wife, if you could believe it, was a former vice president, the National Immigration Forum, this far left George Soros funded open borders advocacy group that is on record not just opposing President Trump in his first term, but they're currently advocating and lobbying against his mass deportation agenda.

00:32:14.900 It gets worse. She was also a Biden regime appointee, an anti-racist activist on a bunch of panels talking about anti-Asian hate.

00:32:24.240 But I'll do you one better. The judge, who also her name is Ana de Alba, I believe in California.

00:32:31.360 Well, she's responsible part of a three judge panel, a tripartite panel, which essentially struck down the Trump administration's ability to fire federal employees.

00:32:40.740 We call them unelected bureaucrats here in the war room from six different agencies.

00:32:45.400 If you can believe it, this individual is not just a self-described lefty liberal from Berkeley,

00:32:51.580 but she has actually been on the board of groups that are currently giving know your rights trainings,

00:32:58.080 information to information to illegal aliens on how to avoid deportations.

00:33:02.480 But even worse, she's done these training sessions in partnership with the consulates in Mexico, Ecuador, Nicaragua and other countries in South and Central America.

00:33:14.400 She even at one point was counsel working for the Mexican consulate here in the United States, trying to advocate for illegal aliens.

00:33:22.020 This is someone who is extremely far left and has foreign government ties.

00:33:26.080 Like I said, I just outlined it for you.

00:33:27.720 But I think what it all comes back to, and I know you're about to have Laura on, all of these judges are radical activists.

00:33:33.620 We should frankly stop calling them judges, just like we don't call NGOs charities.

00:33:37.680 They're not.

00:33:38.180 They're essentially domestic terrorist organizations.

00:33:39.960 They're not the mainstream media.

00:33:41.480 They're the legacy media.

00:33:42.580 And these judges are partisan hacks and activists with so many conflicts of interest.

00:33:47.040 Just choose one and I'll show you how you could force them to recuse themselves. 0.78

00:33:53.160 Natalie, right before we let you go, it's an hour and a half before the seven o'clock demonstration.

00:33:57.300 And it's so loud, we can barely hear you.

00:34:01.220 Is this going to be an everyday occurrence?

00:34:03.180 What's this group?

00:34:03.960 This group is a pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel group today?

00:34:09.140 Well, they're almost as bad as the tech bros.

00:34:11.980 No.

00:34:12.980 Yes, it is a hardcore militant pro-Gaza demonstration crowd.

00:34:17.760 Like I said, the huge flags, the megaphones, the microphones, there's always protests going on.

00:34:23.640 Typically, it was more Doge-focused, Doge-oriented on any day of the week.

00:34:28.940 There's always the sign saying, stop the genocide.

00:34:31.280 But I would say this is the most, I think, or I would say largest crowd that I've seen forming already.

00:34:36.200 But like I said, it's supposed to really kick off and heat up at 7 p.m.

00:34:39.920 Natalie, what's your social media so people can follow you until you're back on tomorrow from the White House?

00:34:48.020 Well, if I make it home walking past these protesters, you can follow me at Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms.

00:34:54.480 No, we've got to show you the side exits to the White House.

00:34:59.780 Thank you, ma'am.

00:35:00.300 Appreciate you.

00:35:01.680 Natalie Winters.

00:35:03.640 She drew combat pay today down at the conference.

00:35:07.220 Laura Loomer joins us.

00:35:08.480 Laura, talk to me about these judges, what your independent research has found out.

00:35:14.140 You've exposed.

00:35:16.140 And when Natalie says and Mike Davis say that these are really activists in black robes, are they too far off, ma'am?

00:35:22.880 No, absolutely not.

00:35:25.040 These are activist judges.

00:35:27.240 And I use the term judge loosely because you cannot be a judge and be impartial and be respectful of law and order and then also be participating in activists and retaliatory behavior, abusing your position at the bench.

00:35:42.720 And so that's what we've really seen happen.

00:35:44.840 And just like Natalie was saying previously, Steve, that if anybody could show her a judge who wasn't an activist, it would make her really happy.

00:35:53.300 Well, you know, I would love to meet a judge or find out whether there's a judge in this country that doesn't have a daughter who has a conflict of interest.

00:36:02.680 So throughout my investigations throughout the campaign and even now investigating all these judges, it's always the daughters.

00:36:10.540 They always seem to have either a wife or a daughter who is tied to some radical leftist organization that is a blatant red flag conflict of interest.

00:36:20.700 And in the case of Judge Bosberg, you can see this report that I published exclusively last night on X.

00:36:28.700 Judge Bosberg, of course, is the judge that made news this week when he decided to issue a restraining order against the Trump administration for their deportation flights.

00:36:38.780 When President Trump said that he was going to be rounding up all of the illegal aliens in Train de Agua and shipping them to El Salvador.

00:36:47.180 And so this judge said that this was not permissible and that the Trump administration was in violation of his court order.

00:36:56.340 But what he didn't disclose, Wolf, is the fact that he has a daughter by the name of Catherine Bosberg, who is an employee at a group called Partners for Justice.

00:37:05.560 It's a 501c3 organization and Partners for Justice advocates for criminal illegal aliens and they make videos with their founder that she publishes on their LinkedIn page and she publishes on Twitter and her various social media pages in which they give legal advice to members of gangs.

00:37:25.400 And they try to make policy and influence policy against laws that crack down on gang activity because it's racist, in their opinion, to have laws that address gang activity.

00:37:39.680 And, of course, we know that Train de Agua has been designated as a terrorist gang, terrorist Venezuelan gang, foreign enemies, okay, operating here on U.S. soil. 0.86

00:37:51.700 And that is the reason why President Trump wants these people deported, because they're not just illegal aliens, they're criminal gangster terrorists.

00:38:00.260 This is a now-designated terrorist organization under the new designation of the Trump administration.

00:38:06.480 And so you would think that it would be a conflict of interest given the fact that Judge Bosberg's daughter, Catherine, who goes by she-her, I don't know if she's a tranny herself, but she subscribes to the tranny mentality because she has pronouns in her bio, which is further evidence of her affinity to the left. 0.79

00:38:23.020 She works for this group, and she's what they call a capacity-building associate.

00:38:29.980 And so what is a capacity-building associate?

00:38:33.120 Well, in her position, she helps coordinate and administer grant activities, ensuring compliance and supporting the delivery of capacity-building programs to strengthen nonprofit infrastructure.

00:38:44.200 Well, that further just indicates what an egregious conflict of interest is, Steve, because this organization, Partners for Justice, receives 76 percent, yes, 76 percent of its funding from government grants.

00:39:00.000 And so the judge's daughter has a job within this pro-illegal alien, pro-gangbanger organization to facilitate government grants so that they can continue their advocacy for, you know, the best and brightest in our country. 0.81

00:39:15.960 All of these great diversity imports in our country who, well, they really aren't sending their best, as President Trump has said.

00:39:23.520 You think that's a big enough conflict of interest with his daughter so involved with these gangs that he should recuse himself, ma'am?

00:39:34.600 Absolutely.

00:39:35.380 I mean, that's just one conflict of interest.

00:39:37.360 On top of the fact that it was reported yesterday as well that his wife was apparently a founder of an abortion clinic, an abortion clinic in the D.C. area.

00:39:46.840 And so she also has donated to various left-wing organizations.

00:39:50.880 And so you have the political bias with his wife making political contributions to Democrats who are anti-Trump.

00:39:58.960 And now you have the daughter that works at a nonprofit, a 501c3 organization that has videos on its website in which they detail how it's offensive to use terms like gang enforcement.

00:40:13.160 I actually posted, if you want to play the video, I posted one of these videos from the executive director of this organization.

00:40:21.640 If you want to pull it up, it's at the very bottom of my Twitter, Steve.

00:40:25.260 Partners for Justice.

00:40:26.500 And her name is Emily Galvin Almanza.

00:40:29.440 She's the founder of Partners for Justice.

00:40:31.740 And she not only employs Judge Bosberg's daughter, Catherine, but she actually made a tweet the other day attacking Tom Homan for defying judges' orders.

00:40:43.720 That's what she's accusing him of doing, of course.

00:40:45.880 And also made another post criticizing the Trump administration's deportation of criminal illegal gangbangers in Train de Agua.

00:40:54.540 And she made another post basically praising Judge Bosberg.

00:40:58.400 So given the fact that she's making these inflammatory social media posts while employing the judge's daughter, I would say that that is indeed a conflict of interest that the judge should have disclosed.

00:41:11.200 I mean, it does say here, and we'll read the clause for you.

00:41:13.960 The disqualifying clause for the code of conduct for U.S. judges, which specifies the circumstances under which a judge must disqualify themselves from a proceeding, says a judge shall disqualify himself or herself in a proceeding in which the judge's impartiality might reasonably be questioned, including but not limited to instances in which, quote, the judge or the judge's spouse.

00:41:40.580 Okay, we already have that with his wife or a person related to either within the third degree of relationship or the spouse of such person.

00:41:48.880 That's the daughter. 1.00

00:41:49.900 Okay.

00:41:50.720 Is known by the judge to have an interest that could be substantially.

00:41:59.140 Okay, we just we just dropped her.

00:42:01.620 We'll have to try to reboot her here in a moment. 0.98

00:42:04.700 We've got Julie Kelly's going to join us in a moment. 1.00

00:42:07.840 We're going to take a short commercial break here.

00:42:09.340 We'll try to reboot Laura Loomer. 0.99

00:42:12.160 There's a firestorm today in the courts.

00:42:15.160 Another ruling against President Trump this time with USAID.

00:42:19.960 Julie Kelly's been monitoring all of it, including the chief justice of the Supreme Court.

00:42:25.600 Roberts came out and was not.

00:42:27.780 How do I say particularly enthusiastic about our efforts on the impeachment side and did not like what President Trump had to say about the judge that Laura Loomer was just talking about.

00:42:39.340 So we're going to get to all that.

00:42:41.220 Julie Kelly's been monitoring this all day.

00:42:43.120 Another huge fight in the courts.

00:42:44.880 You think they got a huge fight in the Red Sea?

00:42:47.680 We have almost one as intense, obviously not bloody combat, almost intense in the federal courts that they tried to remember.

00:42:54.540 To delay is to deny.

00:42:55.960 And that's their strategy.

00:42:56.920 So a lot going on today in the courts.

00:42:59.520 We're going to have people in the second hour about Wisconsin.

00:43:02.820 Terry Schilling's going to join us.

00:43:04.540 One thing I can tell you is that, you know, we have to win in Wisconsin.

00:43:09.660 We need everybody at the ramparts, both on this impeachment and on the victory for the Supreme Court judge in Wisconsin.

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00:44:52.420 What do we know?

00:44:54.560 So essentially what the judge is saying here is that Elon Musk's attempts to unilaterally dismantle USAID likely violated the Constitution.

00:45:03.140 And essentially that obviously is as it relates to Elon, but also any of his employees, those Doge employees who helped this dismantling of it.

00:45:14.860 Now, what's important here is what the judge says.

00:45:17.480 It's unclear what implications this will have long term.

00:45:21.320 But what the judge did do is that for any current USAID employees or those on administrative leave, the judge says that essentially the email payment security notification and all other electronic systems, I'm quoting from him here, need to be reinstated.

00:45:37.460 So, again, while the judge did rebuke, of course, Musk's role within the Trump administration and his role with Doge in dismantling unilaterally USAID, it's really not clear exactly the implications of this decision and the operations of USAID remain unclear at this point.

00:45:56.660 But surely a rebuke of Elon Musk and his role, which the judge believes is unconstitutional.

00:46:02.280 The Trump administration is not answering questions from a federal judge in a new court filing this afternoon.

00:46:08.980 Judge James E.

00:46:09.880 Boesberg had asked the Trump administration for details about a flight that sent more than 200 migrants to El Salvador.

00:46:17.800 He's investigating whether the White House violated his order.

00:46:21.440 The DOJ's response didn't answer many of those questions, but they did agree to give more details to the judge personally in chambers.

00:46:28.920 In the lead up to that response from the DOJ, President Trump attacked that federal judge, Boesberg, calling for his impeachment and labeling him a radical left lunatic.

00:46:41.400 That right there triggered the chief justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts, to issue a rare rebuke, saying, quote, for more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to a disagreement concerning a judicial decision.

00:46:58.920 OK, we drew blood from Roberts today, and it was stunning that he commented on this with the president and, of course, the war room, Mike Davis, Julie Kelly, other star words.

00:47:16.000 I want to put it on perspective.

00:47:17.440 So much happened today in this.

00:47:19.420 Let's start with Roberts, though, because I know you share my concern, Julie, that this is you think it's been bad to date.

00:47:26.500 Did Roberts just not tell these radical neo-Marxists he's got their back, ma'am?

00:47:32.840 He did.

00:47:33.740 And this is the second time since Donald Trump was inaugurated that Justice John Roberts has signaled that he will side with the recklessness and unconstitutional conduct of these lower court judges.

00:47:46.720 Of course, he did that by refusing to intercede in that USAID, the other USAID case in Washington, where the judge ordered the reinstatement disbursement of $2 billion in funds.

00:48:00.800 Of course, the Trump administration putting a temporary freeze on all foreign aid.

00:48:05.740 And this lower court judge, Ali, who barely won confirmation in the waning weeks of the Biden regime, is the one responsible for that.

00:48:15.800 Chief Justice Roberts, along with Amy Coney Barrett, as we talked about, refused to get involved in that.

00:48:21.720 So what did Justice Roberts say today?

00:48:23.940 He stepped way outside of his lane in saying, as Katie Chor just said, for more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision.

00:48:40.340 The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose.

00:48:44.460 This is not a disagreement over a judicial decision.

00:48:48.340 This is a constitutional crisis that has been created by the federal judiciary that they have been creating for years.

00:48:57.240 And this speaks to the separation of powers and these omnipotent, unaccountable judges with feeling the sense of moral superiority that they are the rulemakers in Washington, not interlopers like Donald Trump and his officials and his voters, that they are the ones who make the rules.

00:49:20.520 And this is a core constitutional crisis and issue.

00:49:27.780 It is not Chief Justice John Roberts' place to say whether impeachment is appropriate or not.

00:49:35.140 That is a matter, of course, for Congress.

00:49:38.580 Steve, the crisis here, the problem with impeachment over the past two centuries is that it's been used a handful of times.

00:49:46.780 I think there are 14 judges who faced impeachment.

00:49:49.700 I think only eight federal judges have ever been convicted.

00:49:53.820 The last time that happened, I think, was 30 years ago.

00:49:57.120 The problem is not warning or threatening to use impeachment.

00:50:01.720 The problem is that Congress has abdicated its constitutional role in overseeing the judicial branch.

00:50:10.060 So impeachment is totally appropriate, especially with judges.

00:50:14.280 And Bosberg is one.

00:50:15.380 You and I have talked about several others, including his predecessor, the former chief judge, Beryl Howell, for their really lawless decisions and clear politicking from the bench.

00:50:28.980 And this is just Bosberg's latest example.

00:50:31.500 But John Roberts just gave these lower court judges a big green light, and they are just going to accelerate their conduct now in flagrantly undermining the, as Mike Davis would say, article two authority of the president and his entire domestic and now foreign policy agenda.

00:50:51.760 He essentially, with all the options he had, and as early as we are in this, he knew what he was doing, and he did this on purpose to strengthen them.

00:51:06.600 Did he not, ma'am?

00:51:07.240 He absolutely did.

00:51:09.880 I mean, this statement really doesn't make any sense.

00:51:14.760 Appropriate disagreement goes to a normal appellate review process.

00:51:19.540 Okay, but this is not, as I said, a normal judicial decision.

00:51:25.280 But he's again saying, well, then you go to appeal it.

00:51:28.240 Okay, but the judicial branch then is still in charge.

00:51:32.180 Is he really saying that the president has to abide by a single, unelected judge with a record of partisanship who has a lifetime appointment totally insulated from any culpability, either impeachment-wise or being tossed out of office?

00:51:50.060 Is he really suggesting that somehow the appellate review process is going to give the president appropriate relief?

00:51:58.160 It's absolutely, it's absurd.

00:52:00.260 It's laughable.

00:52:01.160 Sometimes you have to wonder, how did these people even graduate from law school, let alone be the highest judge in the country? 1.00

00:52:08.240 This is stupid. 1.00

00:52:10.240 I mean, there's no other word to describe it. 1.00

00:52:12.540 It's just a stupid thing to say. 0.99

00:52:14.960 But to your point, he knows exactly what he's doing. 1.00

00:52:17.520 He's telling these judges, go right ahead.

00:52:20.420 Yes.

00:52:21.520 This is only going to get worse from here, folks.

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Bannon's War Room - March 19, 2025

Episode 4347： Trump Putin Call, America Responds To Its Enemies In The Red Sea, Pro-Palestinian Protests At White House

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