Stephen K. Bannon returns to the War Room to discuss the latest on the latest in the Trump administration, including the departure of former White House Chief Strategist Dan Bongino, who is now Deputy Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigations.
00:01:09.000Caroline is going to reorganize the briefing room there and put the podcasters
00:01:15.000and the streaming service and people have bigger audiences, have bigger reach and bigger scale.
00:01:20.000Then these tiny little dinky things like CNN and with all the snarky questions and the Caitlin Collins world giving you the bad face all the time.
00:01:33.000I think President Trump just had a belly full of it.
00:01:36.000You know, I think he reaches in with these people and particularly when they're up there and they explain something and they ask the same snarky questions.
00:01:43.000I think the signal the signal situation has driven some people over the edge to say, hey, look, you can't.
00:01:52.000So I think they're going to the back one.
00:01:54.000Matt Palumbo, the great Matt Palumbo, Dan Bongino is now deputy FBI director.
00:01:59.000Dan put out a little statement, I think, last night to kind of give an update of what he and cash are working on and saying, hey, we're grinding away in this thing.
00:02:07.000And don't think, Chris, we're not making announcements every day that we're not making real progress.
00:02:11.000So Palumbo has been his wingman for years over at the great Dan Bongino show.
00:02:16.000So first, I got a lot of stuff to go through with you.
00:02:18.000But first off, just to get the audience up to speed, because given the love everybody's got for Dan and understanding he's left this kind of vast empire he built from nothing,
00:02:27.000because I remember when Dan ran for Congress and ran for the Senate and then we started, he basically started, you know, with himself in a microphone.
00:02:34.000What's happening with the Bongino report?
00:05:10.000But at your suggestion, I, I, so I started two websites early last year and they, I would say middle of last year kind of started to take off.
00:05:19.000But one was woke spy.com and it was modeled after Michelle Malkin's website twitchy because I just feel like there was a lot of sort of micro stories on Twitter of, you know, some famous left wing professor making a clown out of themselves where, you know, it's not worth a 1000 word article, but it's worth, you know, a couple hundred words than the rest of the internet making fun of them.
00:05:42.000And then I did a more, I guess professional is the word to use a version of the cycle populist times, which is for more long term long form reporting on, you know, right wing topics, obviously.
00:05:54.000And then I've been publishing some of my Shen Yun related content there as well.
00:05:58.000I got invited to one of their press conferences last week at the David Koch theater and it was on the topic was all of the ways the CCP is working to basically try to thwart their shows and shut down.
00:06:11.000And, and in some cases I think cause harm to their performers.
00:06:18.000I thought it would be, you know, 800, but there was just so much content.
00:06:21.000And I felt like, you know, there's, there's almost a moral obligation to make sure you get every possible thing when they were kind enough to invite me.
00:06:28.000How is the, the CCP is pretty, is pretty focused on taking down the populist national movement, whether that's president Trump in the United States, because they know that this supports Lao Bajing for the freedom of the Chinese people, but they are pretty focused on taking us down here.
00:06:45.000Whether it's through Shen Yun, the cultural or also what they're doing on the political side, the infiltration, the cultural centers, all of it, sir.
00:06:52.000Yeah, I mean like with the Shen Yun, it was like a multi, I would say five pronged attack, but I feel like I'm probably missing things where, you know, one of the things they did that they're also doing to others is they have bought armies on Twitter and other social media sites of tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of fake accounts.
00:07:12.000And they are used to create this false impression of consensus on any kind of issue they want.
00:07:19.000They also pay a lot of YouTube travel bloggers where there was this one video that went viral of, it was someone, the script was like someone's on the 20th floor of a building in China and it looks like you're on the ground floor.
00:07:35.000And then, you know, their narration is like, you know, you probably think we're walking on the ground.
00:07:40.000However, this is actually the 20th floor of a building and they pan out to the, you know, the lower floors.
00:07:45.000And there were dozens of YouTubers who repeated the exact same line.
00:07:49.000And these were all people with hundreds of thousands, sometimes millions of followers.
00:07:53.000So just the effort to try to portray China as a first world country is one of the big propaganda points.
00:08:00.000Big Matt, what's the easiest way to track you and all your endeavors?
00:08:07.000Cause you're one of the great voices in the, on the MAGA, right?
00:08:47.000Cause the son is like the man, the father's kind of punched out, but the son is the man.
00:08:51.000And I actually think he's more dangerous than the father because he's gotten more dialed in at an earlier age and he's got a bigger war chest.
00:09:00.000So the, I mean, the original plan was submitted by July 1st, get it out before Christmas.
00:09:05.000I think I can have it in within maybe two weeks.
00:09:07.000So hopefully that pushes back the timeline and you are correct.
00:09:10.000Alex, not only has he been running the show and you know, the, the official announcement was back in 2023, I think June 2023.
00:09:19.000But from my research, it seems like he's been running the show in Europe since 2015 to 2016.
00:09:25.000The pack that has been funding all these rogue district attorneys, he's been running since 2022.
00:09:31.000So, so I have a whole new chapter just updating the Soros DA list and it's the Alex Soros DA list.
00:09:37.000And one of the chapters I think people will find the most interesting and I guess funny in an odd way is there was a George Soros DA that wasn't radical enough.
00:09:47.000So Alex Soros funded his own DA to beat the George Soros DA.
00:10:16.000Prison for four years or they say they're going to do, I think, put an ankle bracelet on, but they're still going to have home confinement so she can't campaign.
00:10:40.000Well, if you want war, vote for a mainstream political party, because that's what you'll get.
00:10:45.000And this is what I was saying earlier on in the first half of the show, that this battle that the anti-establishment, the populist nationalist movement has been fighting for the last 15 years, took place first in the cultural sphere.
00:11:01.000Then when we won that in the political sphere, then when we won that, it's now in the judicial sphere.
00:11:08.000But the reason for this, as I was saying, is because judges being unelected are unresponsive to popular will.
00:11:15.000They are the last front of the system in its fight to maintain control.
00:11:19.000And what the element of war here is not is not an unrelated to what's going on.
00:11:25.000If you look at the candidates who are being excluded by these judges from office, this is their last chance.
00:11:30.000Their last chance, why I called it earlier, Custer's last stand of the deep state.
00:11:36.000So when I said before, I actually have a theory, a suggestion, if anyone wants to listen to it, might be a bit edgy of what can be done.
00:12:12.000The problem essentially is this, and you'll find this in America.
00:12:17.000You'll find this in continental Europe.
00:12:19.000The one country where you won't find this is in England, historically, for this reason.
00:12:24.000When you have a constitution, and you base your political authority in that constitution,
00:12:29.000and you base the interpretation and protection of the integrity of that constitution in elected judges,
00:12:36.000what we are seeing now around the world was inevitable that a class of judges will stop the political process when their interests are in state.
00:12:47.000Well, far be it for me to say that I have a better feel for the political situation in the United Kingdom than my revered friend Ben Harnwell.
00:12:54.000But I just think you're dead frickin' wrong.
00:12:56.000The judges there tried to stop, actually got in the middle of Starmers trying to send the immigrants back.
00:13:03.000Remember, the courts there are starting to rear their heads.
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00:19:09.000The United States has been has been essentially screwed over by, quite frankly, some of our closest allies that we underwrite their defense.
00:19:17.000That's why we have a trillion dollar defense budget.
00:19:20.000That's one of the reasons that, you know, they're talking about cutting.
00:19:23.000Oh, they got to cut Medicaid because you got to you got to you got to pay for the war machine where the war machine supports a whole lot of global elites.
00:19:29.000And then when President Trump put the twenty five percent tariffs on automobiles that day, the Wall Street guys heads were blowing up.
00:19:36.000The Ford, all the guys, guys in Germany don't make any cars here sitting there.
00:19:41.000It's terrible. You know, didn't say it was terrible.
00:19:43.000The UAW guy came out and said, hey, we support President Trump.
00:19:46.000One thousand percent because it's bringing jobs back into America to actually manufacture things called automobiles.
00:19:52.000Remember, eight hundred billion, I think, of automobiles sales a year under three hundred billion, I think, are actually when I say made, I mean, manufactured in the high value added parts of me, not assembled, not just put these parts from all the high value parts around, just kind of bolt them together.
00:20:09.000Actually made in the United States of America by United States citizens.
00:20:25.000I was on Friday night on your show, Steve, seven, six to seven p.m. and had 20 charts.
00:20:33.000I'm going to just head right to the tariff story today.
00:20:36.000But the bottom line is when President Trump comes on and gives his masterful presentation in a way that can be understood, it's very simple.
00:20:47.000Have anyone defend the ethics, the justice, the corruption of this current tariff regime we have on the middle class, on middle class jobs in every city that's been decimated.
00:21:01.000Right. Where's the Wall Street Journal?
00:21:28.000There's China, that big pink ball to the left.
00:21:30.000China's making $1,000 a year per capita in 1980.
00:21:35.000The United States is the far right richest country in the world.
00:21:38.000All those yellow dots are Protestant and Catholic countries in Western Europe because they produced science and the Enlightenment and democracy and human rights and everything good.
00:21:56.000China's now that giant red ball approach in the United States grown at 10% a year for a decade.
00:22:02.000And that's because they're doing manufacturing and everything good that goes with manufacturing, innovation, research and development.
00:22:09.000They're catching the entrepreneurial piece a little bit.
00:22:12.000But the one other major piece I want to emphasize is right now the current regime, the reason it's so rich and corrupt is that basically some of the elites are saying just skip manufacturing, right?
00:22:25.000The U.S., in order to scale up and to compete with China, we need to have oligarchies and monopolies of a scale to compete with China.
00:22:35.000So that is the alternative vision, right, the vision that we have right now where the big just keep getting bigger.
00:22:41.000The auto, big three, the big banks, the big health care, the big government, the big tech, the big everything.
00:22:47.000And the middle class and the lower class is just getting hijacked and robbed from.
00:22:53.000Next chart, I've seen some economists come out and say, oh, the real economy is slowing right now.
00:23:45.000So as you withdraw money from the money stock, it's going to slow the economy.
00:23:50.000And there's about a six month lag on that.
00:23:52.000And then the next chart, the same thing holds for fiscal policy.
00:23:56.000When you're doing a trillion dollars in debt deficits every hundred days, when you steal from the kids and you count that as government spending and investment, of course, it looks good in the short run.
00:25:04.000They said, hey, if you take fiscal year 25, which we're in starts October 1st, as I bring this audience knows, we are seven point eight percent ahead of actual cash outlays of money spent than we were the year before.
00:25:19.000So remember, the CR, the reason we hated the CR, but everybody's agreed, let's go ahead and do it, is that because we're approving Biden's and Pelosi's budget.
00:25:29.000We're approving a two trillion dollar deficit.
00:25:31.000Now, what we were told the Faustian bargain we made is that Russ vote and people are going to we're going to start impoundments.
00:25:39.000There's no way the Doge guys continue to fight this fraud.
00:25:42.000But clearly, certainly we're not insane.
00:25:45.000We're not going to underwrite the fraud.
00:25:46.000We're going to somehow catch up even in this fiscal year as the other train of the fiscal 26 in the appropriations committees starts to take this stuff out and shut it down.
00:25:57.000What we need to do is start to actually see that because we've been promised once again by Elon on Fox News, Brent Berrigan, one trillion dollars at the six and a half trillion that cuts the deficit in half.
00:26:08.000You've had this attic. And here's why I'm not saying I don't like it, but the political class is hiding behind it.
00:26:15.000They don't have the political courage to actually make the cuts.
00:26:19.000Now, one of the reasons they don't have the political courage, look at the overwhelming media, you know, just even in finding out where the money is or just with people talking about is there Social Security fraud, which I don't happen to think is as much as people think.
00:26:32.000But if there is, we got to get to the bottom of it. Even the mention of it, people are in full meltdown, full and complete meltdown.
00:26:39.000Think about when you actually have to do the cuts. I keep saying all the easy decisions are decades behind us.
00:26:45.000We don't have easy decisions anymore. We basically have six and a half trillion and the trade is going to be, oh, well, Ben and Brad, you guys are all isolationist.
00:26:53.000You're all doves. We ain't isolationist and we're not doves. But the world system that has today, we underwrite the security of all of it.
00:27:02.000That's how you get to a nine hundred billion dollar defense authorization budget.
00:27:07.000And in the reconciliation, folks, get ready for it. Lindsey Graham, these guys are saying it's a minimum of an additional hundred to one hundred and fifty billion dollars.
00:27:16.280That puts us over a trillion. Hang over a second, Dave. Dave Bratt, when I get back, we've had loose monetary policy.
00:27:23.920In other words, just low interest. Let's print as much money as possible with a breach of fiduciary responsibility as fiscal policy.
00:27:34.460We have a double whammy that is causing a financial crisis. Folks, this is why gold's over thirty one hundred dollars an ounce.
00:27:44.540That would be a fact. It's the convergence of these forces that's driving the price of gold up.
00:27:50.180Why is price of gold up? Because the central banks throughout the world are saying, hey, I think they're going to do another drop in purchasing power of my dollar.
00:27:57.700Short commercial break. Dave Bratt, Ben Harnwell, Stephen K. Bannon on a Monday in the War Room.
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00:33:28.200President Trump said on Friday that the word leaked out at the White House that President Trump is saying, hey, guess what?
00:33:34.040And the extension of the tax cuts that since I'm putting in no tax on Social Security, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, other populist, middle class and working class tax cuts.
00:33:46.280It's, you know, we got to do something.
00:33:49.260And and maybe I know tariff money is coming in and other things coming in.
00:33:52.860But maybe we don't extend the upper brackets tax cuts.
00:33:56.060And, of course, your buddy, your good friend, Grover Norquist, he got big mad right away.
00:34:01.120The bonus he goes, these Trump's a liar.
00:34:14.420Because you're describing a monetary loose money policy of the Fed coupled with prolific spending, fiscal mismanagement, a physical breach.
00:34:37.700But if Elon can't fill it, if he can't fill the order, which I suspect they're not going to be able to do, we need to have an adult conversation right now.
00:34:46.440In this fiscal year, we were promised impoundments.
00:40:32.960So all you're going to hear about is these high prices.
00:40:34.800What you're not going to hear about is how we lost our entire manufacturing, and the middle class doesn't have any jobs in the first place to be able to afford the prices at all.
00:42:00.140The gap's got to be filled from somewhere.
00:42:02.180Taxes, remember the IRS, although they're going to lose a bunch of agents, they're still, and they're talking about, hey, maybe it's a $500 billion gap because the agents, who knows?
00:42:40.160At some point in time, we are going to be running some deficits, at least that level of deficits for a while.
00:42:46.440That means if tariffs don't kick into the trillions of dollars we're talking about and the cuts from Elon don't come, IRS is going to be more aggressive than they've ever been.
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