Bannon's War Room - Episode 4436： The Casino Market; Stopping The Illegal Smuggling Taking Place In The US

00:00:00.000 a list of things for myself that Donald Trump was not dealt a bad hand on China.

00:00:06.400 Donald Trump dealt himself a bad hand on China. Okay, so here's one. He enacted tariffs to

00:00:13.640 threaten to tank the economy, so that creates risk for him. He backed China into a corner,

00:00:18.600 which every person, every treasurer who I've known over 20 years will tell you the first

00:00:23.080 thing you don't do is back China into a corner. He made the Fed incapable of responding,

00:00:27.660 so the Fed can't help. He's tanked the markets, the bond, and the dollar, and there's no end game

00:00:32.400 and no plan here. So five cards, five lousy cards. He dealt himself a two, three, four, five, seven,

00:00:39.500 all unsuited, essentially, is what he did right there. So it's a good thing that China has said 1.00

00:00:46.080 it's open to negotiations. But the question becomes, I was trying to think of a metaphor

00:00:51.680 for this, Stephanie. Tell me if this is the right way to think about it. A guy stole your wallet

00:00:56.500 and your necklace. And he says, let's talk about it. And he says, I'll give you back your wallet.

00:01:03.100 He said, no, give me back the wallet and the necklace. And the reason that metaphor may work

00:01:07.980 is because Donald Trump invented these tariffs that he put on China as being commensurate with

00:01:14.380 the tariffs that China put on us. They're not true. He completely made them up with a formula

00:01:18.980 that we believe Peter Navarro invented. So I don't think, I don't know that China comes to the table

00:01:25.140 without saying, get rid of this nonsense and then we'll talk.

00:01:28.920 I mean, are the markets up too much? Should people be selling if they believe that?

00:01:34.280 It's irrelevant to me, the daily trading of the stock exchange. It's irrelevant.

00:01:40.440 The Chinese Communist Party has been at economic war with us for 20 years. And if you look at what

00:01:46.800 they've broken, they've gained the World Trade Organization, most favored nation,

00:01:50.360 the cyber deal, Obama, cut with them in 2015, they never lived up to, the Hong Kong in 2019,

00:01:57.780 they walked away. President Trump worked for two years with Lighthizer, had that amazing deal,

00:02:03.660 took all the seven original sins of the Chinese Communist Party economics away and integrated this

00:02:09.120 into a total global economy. And they walked away. Li Hu and the team walked away in 2019.

00:02:15.680 And so you've seen what's happened. They're at war with us. They've planned for this.

00:02:20.900 But so Donald Trump yesterday says that he's going to be nice to them. I mean,

00:02:24.220 is there a turn here? Because it really looks like he is walking back from this idea.

00:02:28.740 I don't think there's a climb down. There's a fact, right when we walked in here,

00:02:31.200 Caroline Levitt came in, so it's not going to be any unitary, unilateral walk down, right, to 50%.

00:02:38.360 Now, I will tell you about President Trump. He went up the escalatory ladder

00:02:42.360 quickly, right, to 125 and 145. But this is a long, tough process. So I think people trading on

00:02:50.040 this every day is just the computers or the algorithms or folks, I think you have to see

00:02:55.440 that he's bound and determined to, number one, treat this as a premium market, where if you don't

00:03:02.160 bring your manufacturing back here, you're going to have to pay a premium to get to this market,

00:03:05.840 like you buy a premium skybox at a sporting event or front row at a concert. He sees a premium. If

00:03:13.880 you bring your manufacturing back, it's a different deal. But this is a long, tough fight. It's not

00:03:18.300 going to be solved. And the media is running around in the market, stock market this. It's very

00:03:23.060 complicated. And we're dug in. And it's a battle between two systems. If you think their system is

00:03:29.560 going to win, you're kidding yourself. It's not. We're going to win this. The American people are

00:03:33.400 going to win it. And Lao Bai Jing, the common man in China, is going to win it also.

00:03:37.960 Yeah. And we had Ferguson here earlier talking about that. So I guess on the other side of the

00:03:43.640 ledger, in a way, on the cut side, on the Tesla earnings call yesterday, Elon Musk said,

00:03:49.080 you start to step away from his government work. Have you won?

00:03:53.960 It's not about personalities, right? I do support Doge because you've got to deconstruct the

00:04:05.660 administrative state. If you want to get to deregulation, you have to deconstruct this

00:04:09.320 choking administrative state that the Constitution and the founders never thought of. I think with

00:04:14.080 Elon, what I do think we have to do, and we have to be very specific, before he leaves to go back to

00:04:21.280 Tesla, although he's going to hang around part-time. We need to have an accounting. He's

00:04:25.760 questioning the integrity of the system, okay? Like Treasury is $6.5 trillion. They can't find all

00:04:32.120 this. Social Security, IRS. We need to have a very specific accounting of what he found as far as fraud

00:04:39.660 goes and waste. And I mean details. Treasury's got to sign off that. OMB's got to sign off. And every

00:04:46.100 department head, we need to know exactly what he found because he went from two trillion a year

00:04:50.140 to one trillion a year to $150 billion next year with nothing this year. None of this makes sense.

00:04:57.020 The cuts you've seen that have been announced are programmatic, whether it's USAID or DOE. That's a

00:05:02.920 totally different thing. And on the Doge effort overall in this interview with the Semaphore

00:05:07.840 said, and I thought this was notable, he said, we need to have a very specific accounting of what he

00:05:13.040 found as far as fraud goes and waste. And I mean details. He said, quote, none of this makes sense.

00:05:18.700 And he says he wants to see a letter of certification showing that no one has taken any data

00:05:23.240 from the administration or from the government.

00:05:25.460 Yeah, I'm I'm was I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm with Steve Bannon on that. I think it's

00:05:30.660 going to show he did a lot of hand waving and not much else. I mean, he obviously was making great

00:05:35.420 like he does with everything. He always says, you know, there's going to be a robo taxi this week.

00:05:39.660 And of course, he hasn't had one. And Google's been operating one for years. I ride in them in San

00:05:44.000 Francisco. He does this all the time in his businesses. This is going to happen next year,

00:05:48.360 next year, next year. And I think he made a lot of the over promised here and under delivered.

00:05:51.900 And so I think Bannon's correct. Oh, God, I can't believe I'm saying this. But Bannon's correct.

00:05:56.240 There should be an accounting of what he found and not and checked out because everything that

00:06:00.760 gets checked out by people like David Farenthold from The New York Times seems to be not real.

00:06:05.980 Like it wasn't savings. It wasn't real savings. And as I said before, the only thing this is kind

00:06:10.480 of proving is that maybe the government is working a little better than it should. It's actually

00:06:15.360 smaller than it was 30 years ago. And there's more people that's serving. So I don't know.

00:06:21.900 I think we need an accounting of it. And we have to make sure the data that he's been

00:06:25.980 bringing together is not gone off somewhere, is not within anything he has. And that's going to

00:06:32.760 be difficult because they let people, including Scott Besson, they let Musk's troops run rampant

00:06:39.380 within these systems without enough security. And that's been warned over and over again by people

00:06:43.860 in the government.

00:06:44.300 Also, I think we have to have a letter of certification that not one data set or piece

00:06:51.540 of data of the United States government or citizens of this country are withheld or held

00:06:57.900 by anybody or any copies held except for the Trump administration, the U.S. government.

00:07:02.640 And that has to happen, I think, in the month of May.

00:07:05.340 And it sounds like you don't trust him not to take data.

00:07:07.820 Trust, but verify.

00:07:11.100 Today, the Wall Street Journal reported that the White House is considering slashing tariffs

00:07:16.460 on China to deescalate the trade war, in some cases, by more than half. That still gets you

00:07:21.780 above 50 percent. And the problem is, don't get too excited. The president has not made a final

00:07:27.280 decision. Plus, while the White House sends mixed signals on whether or not there are active

00:07:32.320 talks with the Chinese, the Wall Street Journal is reporting that there actually is a delegation

00:07:37.140 of Chinese officials, including the finance minister and governor of the People's Bank

00:07:41.580 of China in D.C. right now. But they have not scheduled any meetings with the administration

00:07:46.200 and they're supposed to leave tomorrow. Sources say that could change if they do get meetings

00:07:50.760 with White House officials.

00:07:51.920 And secondly, would you support a millionaire tax?

00:07:55.460 I think it would be very disruptive because a lot of the millionaires would leave the country.

00:08:01.380 You know, the old days, they left states. They go from one state to the other.

00:08:04.420 But now with transportation so quick and so easy, they leave countries, you'll lose a lot

00:08:09.600 of money if you do that. That would. And other countries that have done it have lost a lot

00:08:14.180 of people. They lose their wealthy people. That would be bad because the wealthy people

00:08:17.440 pay the tax.

00:08:18.800 And here's the thing. The alternative the populist nationalists offer is an alternative that you

00:08:24.900 can see the sunlit uplands. Tons of change has to happen. But the other alternative, I'm telling

00:08:30.540 you, is this Luigi. The look has treated like a hero. He's treated like Robin Hood. That should scare

00:08:38.120 you to the marrow of your bones because that's the alternative. If the system keeps going like it is,

00:08:44.680 that alternative is your alternative. We offer the populist nationalists offer something you're not

00:08:49.940 going to love, but you'll be able to live with.

00:08:55.800 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:09:04.060 these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a

00:09:10.920 belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the

00:09:14.600 world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like

00:09:18.200 that go to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people

00:09:25.820 had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my

00:09:33.760 country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:09:40.960 Thursday, April, 24, April, Year of the Lord, 2025. Today in the imperial capital,

00:09:55.320 the kinetic part, let's take all three, remember the central verticals of President Trump plus

00:10:00.800 the additional fourth in the administrative state and the deep state. Let's go with the kinetic part

00:10:07.100 of the third world war, which President Trump is leading an effort to bring peace to both the

00:10:13.480 Middle East and peace to Ukraine by dealing with the Russians. The Russians, I think we'll have some 1.00

00:10:20.460 footage in a little while. Putin and the Russians dropped a sledgehammer on Kiev last night in an

00:10:28.360 attack. President Trump's just put out moments before we came on air saying, hey, this is not going

00:10:34.060 to wash. This thing must stop now. So President Trump is deep into settling and sorting out

00:10:41.720 the kinetic part of the third world war because folks were in the third world war. You could see

00:10:46.360 that yesterday. I was trying to tell at the World Economic Conference, and that is the guys over at

00:10:51.720 Semerford, Ben Smith and those guys, and they should be applauded for having me speak because you don't

00:10:56.420 have a lot of populist nationalists invited there to talk. And that is a room full of globalists.

00:11:03.380 Those are the people that control the money that makes the world work as it works today.

00:11:09.160 And Ben was, I thought, very generous, good questions, and let me get answers out.

00:11:16.840 On the second part, the deportations, we're going to have, Todd Benzman's going to join us at the

00:11:21.300 bottom of the hour because the reality of this guy that they're saying needs to have, you know,

00:11:28.760 due process and hearings, everything, is a human smuggler. He was caught by Tennessee. He was

00:11:34.960 caught by Tennessee police, and he was part of a human trafficking gang out of Houston.

00:11:41.660 Obviously, that's where the Democratic part, and this is how radical they are, but their strategy

00:11:46.680 is smart from what they're trying to accomplish. And this is what we have to understand. They're

00:11:54.400 trying to slow us down and slow the president down to delay us tonight. Now, they're doing

00:11:58.260 it across all these federal jurisdictions, and now they've gotten a little savvy. They've backed

00:12:03.560 off of doing the countrywide injunctions to the TRR somewhat. In Denver, they just filed the other

00:12:11.080 day for the gang in Colorado. I gave that speech out there to the Colorado GOP. It was one of the top

00:12:16.800 of mind things for those folks, how Colorado is being terrorized by the Venezuelan gang. 0.97

00:12:23.560 The judge is now given a stay for 21 for deportations there. What is going on? And it's obvious.

00:12:30.060 They're trying to force a constitutional crisis. They, the opposition, trying to force a

00:12:35.700 constitutional crisis at the Supreme Court level to force President Trump's hands on deportations

00:12:42.240 of the 10 million. Ladies and gentlemen, we're never going to get to the 10 million. The 10 million

00:12:48.100 have to leave the country. The Wall Street guys are going to say it's impossible because they add to

00:12:53.080 GDP. It's going to kick some of the recession. The corporate guys are saying you can't do it because

00:12:57.360 it's, it's lowered inflation because it lowered wages. You're going to have every intellectual

00:13:01.660 argument in the world. And now they're going to force us. And this is why DC Drano yesterday with

00:13:07.380 that magnet or two days ago with that magnificent, uh, putting on the table, like in the war room,

00:13:13.220 we put ideas out there and then develop those ideas. The writ of habeas corpus. They're going to force

00:13:21.760 Trump's hand. Like they tried to force Andrew Jackson's hand and a little known story. They tried

00:13:32.140 to force Abraham Lincoln's hand because Abraham Lincoln, for as much as people admire him and what

00:13:39.440 he accomplished, he ran the civil war as a warlord, as a warlord. They're trying to force a

00:13:48.240 constitutional crisis. In the middle of this, we have an economic and financial crisis and we need

00:13:53.660 to stop the happy talk. The moment is now. And this show and this audience, and I'm going to speak

00:14:03.480 some hard truths, but hard truths that have to be spoken today. If we make these decisions, let's make

00:14:11.680 sure we make them consciously and like with intent, just like Donald Trump came back from Mar-a-Lago

00:14:18.320 to get into the race, to take back the presidency and the white house, understanding everything that 0.56

00:14:24.380 was before him. We have to be that conscious of these decisions. We cannot happy talk ourselves.

00:14:31.260 And all I'm hearing here in Capitol Hill is nothing but spin and happy talk of people who do not want

00:14:38.060 to face the crisis we are in regarding spending. Johnny Kahn is going to take us out. We're packed

00:14:45.080 all day today in the war room. Short commercial break. Back in a moment.

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00:16:11.280 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:16:18.500 Okay. The breaking news, President Trump is going to sign a executive order today targeting Act Blue.

00:16:34.180 Natalie Winters, called shot for Natalie Winters, who, by the way, is on page one of the style section of the,

00:16:40.380 of the fake news failing New York Times with an incredible article about her work here at the

00:16:46.540 War Room and at the White House. And I'm going to address the, Mike, Mike Davis is coming on at 11

00:16:52.020 o'clock with some additional stuff going on with the oligarchs. And I realize people, you know,

00:16:58.980 who you love the viceroy maybe are not ecstatic about the interview last night about the Justice

00:17:04.100 Department. There's a method to our madness here. Just understand. Look, I think it's bottom line.

00:17:09.760 Let's cut to the chase. The Justice Department is so overwhelmed. You throw this eel on them and

00:17:14.000 others. I think it just calls, you got to get a special prosecutor. You have to have a special

00:17:19.540 counsel that reports directly to the White House and the office of the president. Look, if we're

00:17:23.240 going to, if we're going to call their bluff on article two powers, a chief executive, he can cut

00:17:29.740 people and or cut money. They're going to do some impoundments or I think they're going to start

00:17:33.920 with rescissions. It's going to be a nine billion dollar rescission that comes up in the next 10

00:17:38.740 days. But impoundments about, and this is part of the Doge thing. I think there's some impoundments.

00:17:43.900 I think there's some impoundments there and that'll all have to go up, you know, on the boards.

00:17:49.640 He's got that power. He's commander in chief. This is what they're forcing the constitutional crisis

00:17:53.660 at the Supreme Court. Write this down. They're forcing this. I can see their plan right now.

00:17:58.680 They are going to call our bluff on the on the article two powers on the unitary theory of the

00:18:06.220 executive as commander in chief in this situation with this guy and Todd Benson. We're going to force

00:18:12.800 him. They're going to embrace the fact that he's a human trafficker because I've ever come up with

00:18:17.220 the deep states national intelligence estimate that says it's phony that snuck through Tulsi Gabbard.

00:18:24.060 It turns out, I believe she's turned over three senior intelligence officials for investigation to

00:18:31.000 DOJ. And I don't think it's related to this. I thought so yesterday. Maybe. But we got to find out who

00:18:38.300 did that. This thing is building to a a crescendo. You're going to be you're going to have a ringside

00:18:46.380 seats. We don't need anybody up on the ramparts quite yet because we've got to work out the battle

00:18:50.480 plan. But this one's coming. It's to stop the mass deportations of the 10 million. Right.

00:18:57.800 They want first of they want as many gangsters and criminals in here as possible. Don't get me wrong.

00:19:01.580 But their big goal is to stop the deportations of 10 million. They're going to force him to go

00:19:06.200 Andrew Jackson, which is OK. I read the I read your opinion. Now enforce it. That's coming, folks.

00:19:14.040 This. This act blues. But but you can't. What what we're looking for and what I think is necessary

00:19:20.120 in the world of Tom Fenton and people like that in this audience is there's too much. They're

00:19:25.440 overwhelmed over DOJ. They just got a huge story today. Harmeet Dillons over the civil rights division.

00:19:32.400 There's already a revolt against Harmeet because she's over there for that nest of vipers. 1.00

00:19:37.100 Particularly, that's the election fraud division. At the same time, the antitrust is on fire

00:19:45.280 because they cleaned out Omeet and Gail Slater, who are just doing a magnificent job.

00:19:51.200 But Davis is going to be on here to talk to you about how people are trying to end run that.

00:19:54.680 These lobbyists to get to the president that just stop. It's it's what's happening in this

00:19:59.640 capital right now on every different vertical is all out warfare. Absolute warfare.

00:20:05.140 Trying to blunt President Trump from achieving his objectives. That's why in the cold open,

00:20:10.800 I wanted you to hear what they're saying, like particularly on China and China's coming

00:20:16.660 to a showdown. Gasparino's just got a a tweet out that says, hey, India may be the template

00:20:22.380 or Japan, but it looks like Besson's got Japan, Korea, Vietnam, a bunch of holding patterns

00:20:28.520 looking for an architecture of a memorandum of understanding. And that memorandum of understanding

00:20:34.640 would be that, uh, you know, in the site and I had the, uh, the, the, um, and I don't

00:20:40.220 have my FT from that day. It's over at my other desk, um, which showed the retaliation

00:20:45.460 the CCP is going to do against countries that buy into that architecture. India may be the

00:20:50.300 farthest down. India is a complicated one because India is not the best when it comes 1.00

00:20:54.240 to their terrorists, how we're treated. So it's going to be quite interesting.

00:20:59.740 What I said to the folks yesterday too, they said, well, the stock market up or down, you

00:21:02.820 know, Ben, it's up or down. Hey, it's a casino. This is Jack Posobiec this morning to me. It's

00:21:08.180 a casino. We don't care. We don't care the role of the roulette table every day. That's 0.99

00:21:14.840 not urgent. The bond market is different because we borrow so much money. We're jammed in.

00:21:21.200 And this gets back to the discussion we have to get on the table. The big, beautiful bill,

00:21:27.080 you got to break it down into kind of pieces that lead up to the big, beautiful bill. First

00:21:31.420 off, number one, there's, they're coming out now with, they're going to add a hundred

00:21:36.060 to $150 billion to the $880 or $900 billion already in the defense authorization. And this

00:21:43.960 is why Pete's tweeting out in all caps, excited. It's a trillion dollar defense bill. So riddle

00:21:50.100 me this. This is, I'm confused about this. Why do we have two carrier battle groups and

00:21:58.800 a carrier battle group, just so you understand, it's got an aircraft carrier worth an air wing

00:22:02.380 on it. The whole purpose of this is the projection of American power ashore to one, keep the skies 0.62

00:22:11.460 clear so that then fighter bombers can go across and deliver payloads on bad guys or people that

00:22:19.060 are enemies of this country. That whole battle group, it's got cruisers, it's got destroyers,

00:22:26.020 it's got frigates. I was honored to be a junior officer on a destroyer in these carrier battle

00:22:31.280 groups in the Pacific and in places like the North Arabian Sea and the Persian Gulf, although

00:22:35.940 the carriers don't go in there, thank God, the destroyers and frigates do. But you got supply

00:22:41.620 ships, you have oilers, you have all of it, huge amount of ships, right? I don't know, 10,000 sailors,

00:22:50.260 let's say. In addition, you have submarines, nuclear powered submarines in direct support,

00:22:55.220 fast attack, not boomers, fast attack in direct support. These are big, complicated war systems 0.76

00:23:01.620 of everything from aviation to submarine warfare to surface warfare, you know, missiles, guns,

00:23:10.260 air defense, everything. That's the projection of American power. That is since the Second World War 0.63

00:23:17.020 in the Pacific, not in the Atlantic, in the Pacific. That has been the basic building block of American

00:23:22.640 projection of power and to keep the sea lanes open. We are in, so riddle me this, in the Red Sea,

00:23:30.580 we have two carriers, but not one, we have two. And we're bombing the Houthis. Why are we bombing 0.99

00:23:34.780 the Houthis? They're an ally, they're a proxy, like Hezbollah, for the Persians. And they're on 0.95

00:23:39.860 the Arabian Peninsula. And both the Saudi Arabia and UAE who have failed to remove these guys after

00:23:46.520 decades and decades and decades, and hey, I'm not putting the total blame on them because the

00:23:49.800 Egyptians tried for 10 years and got wiped. It was their Vietnam back in the 60s and 70s. The Houthis 0.99

00:23:55.620 are tough hombres. They're kind of like the North Vietnamese, right? Live on very little and fight 1.00

00:24:01.960 you to the death. You meet a lot of these groups around the world, right? You get the back, what

00:24:07.360 Sun Tzu said, they're on the death ground. So they got no place to back up. They know that if you

00:24:11.580 succeed, they're finished. So they're going to fight you to the best. And they're given as good as they

00:24:15.780 get over there. They already took down an F-16. You read the combat reports, these guys going in for

00:24:21.540 these runs. It's not the best. But we're sitting there on a $1 trillion defense budget,

00:24:28.700 which is a centerpiece of the discretionary spending of this out-of-control spending of

00:24:33.840 the $6.5 or $7 trillion that we're adding, or assuming $900 billion, we're adding $150 billion

00:24:38.900 for more weapons, more toys. And we're keeping open the sea lanes of the Red Sea to the Suez Canal,

00:24:46.600 which opens up coming from the Persian Gulf through the Suez Canal to Europe. Only 3% of

00:24:53.060 the trade comes through the Red Sea of the Suez Canal that goes to the United States of America.

00:24:56.860 The rest of it goes to Europe. And we're in the process of negotiating deals with these

00:25:03.040 guys that were upside down on commercial relationships with Germany and Italy.

00:25:08.380 In Italy? Politico? I'll get it next thing. What have we said on this show about Maloney in 0.77

00:25:14.320 Italy, in NATO? Lead story in Politico this morning on the European edition was how Italy's

00:25:21.240 not going to get to the 2% of GDP for defense spending. We told you they're never going to

00:25:26.560 get there. And the accounting gimmicks they've got that they expose is ridiculous, as we told 0.79

00:25:31.820 you. They're not paying for the defense. Why? There's too much pressure for the broken

00:25:35.080 health care service. We told you this years ago. And I don't want to hear about Maloney 1.00

00:25:40.280 as the Trump whisperer. President Trump and Waltz has said they want Europe up to 5% of

00:25:47.480 GDP. I think we're at 3.5%. They want them at 5% because they've so underinvested for years.

00:25:54.600 Italy's not at 2% and you and your kids are keeping with two carrier battle groups. You have

00:26:00.520 to think through the world system and how central the United States of America is and most importantly

00:26:07.640 how central the deplorables are in their kids. That your kids, your sons and daughters are on those

00:26:16.280 battle groups. And yes, I understand the Navy has a mission to keep the ceilings open. Hell,

00:26:22.120 that's what I did as a young man. Right. It was more defined then because the Soviets, the Bolsheviks 0.79

00:26:30.360 were at a cold war with us with nuclear missiles kind of, you know, pointed at each other.

00:26:37.080 But there has to be, this is why the hemispheric defense is so brilliant. Yet we have a total

00:26:41.080 mismatch. Pete, brother, love you. We're fixed band nets to make sure they don't run you out of

00:26:45.240 there because you're the man. But you got to get control of the building because the building

00:26:50.220 runs the deal. The building is the defense contractors and all these original gangster

00:26:55.500 generals and colonels have been there forever and going to go work for the defense contractors

00:26:59.020 right afterwards. And I don't fault them for that. They've spent their entire adulthood in service to

00:27:03.820 their country. They've been underpaid that entire time. They got to make a little money. I got it.

00:27:09.340 But it sets up a system. Did Elon not break his pick on that? Remember we kept saying cross the

00:27:15.580 Potomac, cross the Potomac, cross Potomac, because you can't talk about fraud and waste and abuse.

00:27:19.900 Seriously, in this town, unless you're going to go to the Pentagon. And you know what's happened since

00:27:24.300 he went over there? Crickets. Because they're tough hombres. They're tougher than the Houthis. 1.00

00:27:32.300 Right? Particularly when it comes to spending money, your money.

00:27:37.420 So I said yesterday in front of this, we're looking up, the system we have is not sustainable.

00:27:42.860 Our alternative makes it sustainable. But if you continue on the path, you're going to get Luigi.

00:27:51.660 And Luigi is going to be gunning for those people in that audience, which I think the

00:27:56.540 audience understood what I was saying. They took it to heart, let's say.

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00:29:55.420 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:29:57.900 So I want to read this from the President of the United States. I'm not happy with the Russian 1.00

00:30:07.260 strikes on Kiev. Not necessary and very bad timing. Vladimir, stop. 5,000 soldiers a week are dying.

00:30:14.480 Let's get the peace deal done. Now, there's been another announcement. I haven't seen a formal

00:30:19.220 announcement. I'll ask my crack staff to check this out. Is the, about the associate joint press

00:30:28.580 conference tomorrow with Zelensky and President Trump. I'm seeing that cross. I don't know if

00:30:31.840 that's accurate. Now, can we check that out? That would mean Zelensky would be coming here 0.66

00:30:36.960 because the president doesn't leave for Rome until Friday night. Nothing. Okay. I'm seeing that.

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00:31:27.000 Birch Gold will make it accessible to you. But go check it out now. So I talked about the

00:31:31.720 word with President Trump right there on the Third World War and the, in the negotiations

00:31:35.520 for the kinetic part. We're in the Third World War. I told these guys yesterday and they know it.

00:31:40.160 The Chinese Communist Party has been engaged in an economic war. And that's why I walked through 0.99

00:31:44.360 everything they broke. They got, we got them in the World Trade Organization. We gave them

00:31:47.740 most favorite native status and they stiffed us. And they've stolen $600 billion a year of 0.99

00:31:52.560 intellectual property. $600 billion a year. Stolen. Or forced in joint ventures. They have

00:31:58.640 Obama's big cyber deal he signed. They never lived up to any of it. Joe Biden. The Hong

00:32:04.780 Kong, which they gave 70 years of freedom. On 2019, they're cracking down a lock, putting

00:32:10.000 everybody in jail and they run the deal now. Chinese Communist Party runs Hong Kong. I can't go 0.88

00:32:14.200 there because I'm sanctioned by the CCP. I can't, I can't go to Hong Kong. The, um,

00:32:19.920 President Trump spends two years with Lighthizer to negotiate the deal that would integrate them

00:32:25.920 into the, you talk about coupling, it would couple. They spit in our face after two years. 0.89

00:32:30.520 Lee He walked away. We got the skinny deal later, but even on the skinny deal, they haven't

00:32:35.160 lived up to anything. Nothing. They're at economic war with us. We have to face it. Talking

00:32:41.520 by President Trump climbing down. Hey, and I don't, she's not going to, not going to,

00:32:45.400 not going to blink. So you have two options as I see it. Number one, a third party can

00:32:50.200 intervene and you use a third party to maybe start talks. But I think you have to have the

00:32:56.460 India, Japan, South Korea, Philippines, Taiwan layered over, which they're so freaked out

00:33:02.240 about as least the architecture of what those trade relationships are. And remember, we got

00:33:07.920 carry battle groups all over there to keep those folks free in air assets and marine assets.

00:33:15.120 We're paying for their security. That's why your defense budgets $1 trillion a year.

00:33:20.620 Okay. Particularly when we're going back to a hemispheric defense. If we went back to the

00:33:27.720 hemispheric defense, which Trump says we're going to, if we went to that and restructured

00:33:33.100 the military rent, we cut $200 billion out of the defense budget today. I can share the Pentagon

00:33:39.940 $200 billion today, not in 10 years, today. Today. The third part, or the second part is the

00:33:52.020 deportations. We're going to get to that. We're going to get to the financial. I want to go to

00:33:55.040 the deportations in a second. Remember, take your number two pencil out and write down the strategy

00:33:59.840 here. What they are doing is making sure that the 10 million that came here on, and I use that

00:34:07.780 number because Todd Benson said that's the closest number we got. People came before. I deal with

00:34:12.440 that later. Let me deal with the 10 million that came here illegally in an organized invasion 1.00

00:34:16.920 by people who are not being investigated and got to be. Dave is going to come back over here. We're

00:34:22.000 going to talk about that. We're going to get him on Skype about the DOJ thing.

00:34:28.560 And the deportations, the game is they're going to try to slow us down and force our hand here on the

00:34:33.460 most radical members of the gangs. Glenn Beck, who was here the other day, went to the White House,

00:34:40.340 had a great interview with President Trump. And President Trump, and Glenn lays that, it's a

00:34:43.980 judicial insurrection. And Trump agrees, and Trump walks through. He gave every guy a due process

00:34:48.860 hearing. It'd take us 200 years. Well, we don't have to. A lot of these guys, 1.6 million of them

00:34:54.280 already have orders to get the hell out of here. 1.6, another 2 million, as Todd Benson was told,

00:34:59.440 is all these phony things on the app are burning off. So you got three and a half million we can

00:35:03.480 deal with right now. This is why they're going to the Supreme Court. And this is what Roberts in

00:35:08.580 the court that we picked, write this down, assures the turning of the earth. We're going to have a

00:35:17.280 cataclysmic hearing at the Supreme Court, and they're not going to back Trump. They're not. They are not.

00:35:23.960 They do not want to take the heat. That will be heat much higher than they took on the abortion

00:35:31.560 ruling. And that scared them to their core. They're frightened. They're intimidated. As

00:35:38.300 many people get intimidated. And then Trump's going to have to think through, habeas corpus,

00:35:49.960 he's going to have to think through Andrew Jackson and Lincoln. I'm going to get, I'm bringing in 0.56

00:35:57.200 Benzman right now, explaining to who, what they're defending. You know, Jackson, they said,

00:36:01.800 hey, Jackson said, hey, they, they pass it. Now go enforce it. Lincoln, in the early days of the

00:36:09.440 Civil War, they couldn't get the troops from the North. He called for a 50,000 troops right after Fort

00:36:16.280 Sumner. 50,000 troops from the various states to come to Washington to defend the Capitol because

00:36:23.180 they were afraid the, the rebels, the Confederates might move on D.C. immediately. That battle ended

00:36:28.540 up right outside of D.C. at Manassas. Bull run to Yankees, Manassas to Confederates. Remember, 0.67

00:36:37.200 the Yankees, I'll name them on the Creeks. They were defending in the, in the, in the Confederates on

00:36:43.240 the towns that they were taking, like Antietam or Sharpsburg. Pick it, pick them. You had to come

00:36:54.640 through Baltimore. Lincoln had to sneak into the Capitol disguised. Pinkerton was the, had disguised

00:37:03.380 on a midnight train when he got to Baltimore because Baltimore is essentially a Southern city,

00:37:07.820 like Washington was a Southern city. They had to sneak him in here and he went to the Willard Hotel,

00:37:12.900 got it like the red eye, got in overnight from Baltimore, snuck in and he regretted it the rest

00:37:17.480 of his life because the media mocked him. Totally said later, regretted it, doing it, but they felt

00:37:23.040 it had to be done. When the troops got, when he called for the troops to come in, the Baltimore City

00:37:29.140 Council, the, the, the, the, the rebel forces in that town, the plug uglies, essentially shut the city 1.00

00:37:35.840 down, said nothing's going south there on a train, not going to happen. No troops are going to

00:37:40.040 Washington, D.C. because we kind of are Southern sympathizers because of, in rural Maryland,

00:37:46.580 there was a lot of, uh, and this is where the plot to kill Lincoln later was from that, you know,

00:37:54.280 from Maryland, right? All those Marylanders and ran the Surratt, Mary Surratt ran the, um, ran the house 1.00

00:38:02.640 here with the Confederate Secret Service and she was from Maryland, her old man owned a tavern out there,

00:38:07.020 all Confederate sympathizers. So in 1861, they block it. And, uh, and so what did Lincoln do?

00:38:14.060 He went and arrested, he put, he arrested the Baltimore, I think the mayor and the city council

00:38:19.120 of Baltimore and put them in jail and open up for, for, open up for the troops to come through

00:38:24.860 and essentially save Washington, provide defense, which were the darkest days of the Civil War for

00:38:29.560 them occurred then because they didn't think any troops were coming. They thought the game might be

00:38:33.240 over when they started. Tawney, the chief justice of the Supreme court who had written the Dred Scott

00:38:40.260 decision, right? This is a beauty. He written the Dred Scott decision, kind of got us in here anyway.

00:38:46.940 He sends over a thing to, to Lincoln is saying, Hey, I noticed that, uh, on, uh, you know, on, um,

00:38:53.220 that the Baltimore city council, the mayor, you got them locked up and you've brought no indictment.

00:38:57.260 And so for habeas corpus, you got to either give me an indictment or they, the Baltimore official

00:39:01.780 federal attorney, U.S. attorney got to give him an indictment or you got to let him go.

00:39:07.320 And, and Lincoln called Hey over John. Hey, the Hey Adams is named after him. He became the secretary.

00:39:12.640 Say one of the most famous man, men in the 19th century, young 21 year old secretary, all secretary

00:39:17.360 and male secretaries said, you know, don't write this down, but take this over to him. Just remember

00:39:21.880 what I tell him, tell him if he, cause Tony said, if it doesn't happen 24 hours, I'm going

00:39:28.020 to let him go. Hey, goes over to the chief justice. I got a message with the president

00:39:32.720 of the United States. Oh, young man, what is it? He says, the president says, if you release

00:39:37.280 the city council and the mayor in 24 hours on habeas, because of habeas corpus, he's going

00:39:42.660 to put you in jail. Tony didn't say anything else. And I believe the city council mayor stayed

00:39:51.600 in jail for the duration of the war. Lincoln ran as a warlord, shut down the press, the

00:39:57.720 rest of the guy held guy, guys in Congress ran to Canada. He ran as a warlord. You know

00:40:03.280 why? That's the only way he could beat the Confederacy. He had to run as a warlord. You

00:40:07.840 think he used to talk all the time about they were shredding the Constitution. They talked

00:40:11.580 about the expanded powers, the inherent powers of the executive. Right? He and that war cabinet 0.75

00:40:18.860 were some of the smartest lawyers in the country. There's a group of really smart lawyers, deal

00:40:22.380 lawyers. They used to talk about the implied, the implied, the implied powers of the Constitution

00:40:30.540 for Article 2. It's got that scene in the movie Lincoln where he finally had it. He's trying

00:40:36.700 to get the amendments at the end of the war. You know why? They needed these amendments

00:40:40.700 to try to justify just saying. Later on, the reason nobody's tried for treason, they didn't

00:40:46.460 think they could win in federal court. Just saying. Just saying. That's why they had

00:40:51.740 to get these done. Lincoln was on the thing. Get them done. Get to get these amendments

00:40:55.020 passed. And remember, he's horse trading. Guys had come in and want to be in post office.

00:41:00.940 Got to give a guy post office. All the guys that got beaten in the election, all these deadbeat

00:41:07.020 congressmen needed something because they could still vote. Because back then it was in March

00:41:11.020 when everything flipped over. Or when the president was inaugurated. So he had some time.

00:41:20.060 So, and he says, he bangs the table and finally says, I had enough of this. I'm president of the

00:41:25.820 United States. Endowed with virtually unlimited power. That's Lincoln. This is where it's coming to,

00:41:35.900 folks. Write it down in your notebook. On a financial crisis we have. In the beginning of

00:41:44.540 the kinetic phase of the third world war, the man's trying to bring peace. In a global reordering

00:41:52.860 of commercial relationships. So finally we can stop the madness of us being ripped off and underwriting

00:41:58.620 the security of the people ripping us off. Defense Department, House Armed Services Committee.

00:42:06.780 I know you love spending the money because they're taking out to the big dinners and they're giving

00:42:10.380 you stipends and you, you know. And yes, in your districts you got high paying jobs. God bless them.

00:42:16.620 But at some point in time we're gonna have to hammer the swords into plowshares.

00:42:20.620 It's madness. This system is not simply, it's not simply unsustainable because it's unsustainable.

00:42:33.100 At two and a half, we're gonna have a two and a half trillion dollar deficit this year.

00:42:36.700 This year. This fiscal year ending September 30th. Write that down in your notebook too.

00:42:43.180 It's unsustainable. It's also insane. It doesn't make any sense. There's no logical connection

00:42:48.940 to this. We're fighting a global trade war because they're all ripping us off,

00:42:53.340 not just on tariffs, but on non-tariff ways they don't let us into the country.

00:42:58.540 And there's no manufacturing here. And we've become a total consumer that we have to,

00:43:03.980 it's all federal money. Shutting down the law firms. What was about federal money? Shutting

00:43:07.980 down the universities. What's about federal money? It's all federal money. It's all your money because

00:43:12.620 we just keep the money machine cranked up and eventually can't pay for it.

00:43:17.020 And you underwrite the defense of the, you essentially our beloved military of which I

00:43:24.700 served in with pride. And Mo served in pride coming out of West Point. They've tried to turn

00:43:31.980 our military and basically rent a cops to the casino. We can't have that happen. That's what they're

00:43:38.460 trying to do. This is an insane system that's not sustainable. And the only people that can

00:43:46.940 make changes are you having President Trump's back. Benzman next.

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00:45:21.260 Okay, at the top of the show, we talked about what Steve Leisman, the big liberal over at CNBC,

00:45:31.340 is ripping on Trump. No plan, no strategy. I said there's two alternatives now, basically,

00:45:35.580 because there is a process. Besson has a process going. Is that process moving as quickly as people

00:45:41.900 want? No, because these are complicated things, even to get to the architecture,

00:45:45.260 the memorandum of understanding. However, I said now there's two passions go down.

00:45:50.220 One is the third party and get in the room of the Chinese or continue to work your deals, 0.94

00:45:55.180 work your process, and escalate. This is from President Trump, hot off the press,

00:46:00.140 just came across, true social. Boeing should default China for not taking the beautifully

00:46:05.340 finished planes that China committed to purchase. This is just a small example of what China has

00:46:09.740 done to the USA for years. And by the way, fentanyl continues to pour into our country from China,

00:46:14.300 through Mexico and Canada, killing hundreds of thousands of our people. And it better stop now. 0.89

00:46:21.020 They're at war with us.

00:46:25.180 There's not going to be happy clappy. And of course, the casino doesn't like it because the

00:46:29.020 casino likes Lao Bai Jing being a slave labor. The casino likes dumping money into China. 0.61

00:46:34.300 That's the casino.

00:46:39.260 Thank you, Jack Bosovic, for reminding me of that.

00:46:42.940 Todd Benzman. They're going, this is going to go to the Supreme Court and it's going to be a

00:46:49.500 constitutional crisis and they're going to try to force Trump to be Andrew Jackson.

00:46:54.380 Right. Tell me about the individual. I want to make very clear, because this is not getting

00:47:00.060 enough air. We had Leahy on last night, but this is John Solomon's done great work.

00:47:04.860 Leahy's done great work. Benzman's done great work. What exactly are they defending, sir?

00:47:12.380 Well, the pro-criminal crowd chose this hill, the Abrego Hill, to die on for some reason.

00:47:19.020 It just keeps getting worse and worse. We now have new information about Abrego,

00:47:26.060 a traffic stop out of Tennessee state trooper. In 2022, the guy had seven or eight what he called

00:47:34.380 construction workers that he was driving from Texas to Maryland. The trooper, according to the reports,

00:47:43.180 said that he believed this was a smuggling event. So he took a bunch of information. He

00:47:51.020 you know, collected what he needed to. I don't know why he didn't arrest. We still don't have that

00:47:57.980 information about why he didn't arrest. But one thing he did say is that that car is my boss's car,

00:48:05.260 the vehicle. Just News came out with the vehicle owner's name, his boss's name, which turns out to

00:48:14.140 be Jose Ramon Hernandez out of Houston, an illegal alien crossed after he was deported again, who was

00:48:26.300 running a smuggling operation out of Houston in 2019. The guy got convicted. His boss.

00:48:35.500 Hang on. He said he told the troopers because he didn't had an illegitimate license because it's for

00:48:41.580 illegal aliens that Maryland get these radical Democrat states give these guys driver's license,

00:48:46.780 but there's only to use in the state. He had that the registration. He was driving somebody else's

00:48:52.780 car. Normally, unless you can really confirm that they put them lock them up right there.

00:48:57.260 Tennessee state police dropped the ball here unless they come forward quickly and say you

00:49:02.140 dropped the ball and the FBI dropped the ball. But I'm not shocked about that cash. That's another

00:49:06.380 reason they should be shut down. He told the state. Hang on. We got to get that. He told the state trooper.

00:49:13.340 This is my boss's car. His boss was convicted of human trafficking out of Houston, which Todd

00:49:21.100 Benzman has taught us now the last four years is one of the hotbeds for human trafficking in the

00:49:26.860 United States. Am I correct in all that, Todd Benzman? That's right. And you don't even have to take it

00:49:33.020 for me because the boss, Abrego's boss, waived his Miranda rights and said everything. This one happened

00:49:42.860 in Mississippi. He got caught with a load of nine illegal aliens, several of whom had recrossed,

00:49:51.100 so they were doubly criminal aliens. And those guys were all interviewed. Also, his brother-in-law

00:50:02.700 was arrested at the scene and they waived their Miranda rights. So it's all right there in the

00:50:08.380 court records. You can read all about it. They'd been doing the business for at least five or six

00:50:13.740 months, had done half a dozen trips to five different states, South Carolina, Georgia, Virginia,

00:50:23.740 Maryland. It's a smuggling operation. And they got arrested, prosecuted, pled guilty to the charges.

00:50:32.700 And spent 18 months in jail. By the time he got out, it was the Biden era. And Biden was letting all

00:50:39.820 the criminals stay rather than deporting them as necessary required by law. And so it looks like

00:50:47.660 he went right back to his smuggling game, which was booming in 2022 when Abrego got caught in that very

00:50:56.700 boss's vehicle, he said, with a load of aliens. So those who are trying to, the pro-criminal

00:51:05.420 crowd that's out there trying to paint this guy as a loving father of five who just kind of got in a

00:51:13.260 tiff with his wife once or twice, but otherwise was great, are working overtime to return this guy back

00:51:21.260 to the United States so he can deliver another brutal beating to that wife, who, by the way, is out there 1.00

00:51:28.300 stumping on his behalf, weeping and crying. And it's got GoFundMe pages and is making all this money,

00:51:34.780 undoubtedly, to, you know, advocate on his behalf.

00:51:41.500 Right. Of course, I don't care what the wife says. I don't care what the wife says. I don't 0.60

00:51:45.500 care what the kid says. I don't care about any of that. He said he was driving his boss's car and

00:51:50.380 his boss is convicted of human trafficking. And he had eight in the car. And it's outrageous that

00:51:57.420 the Tennessee, the Tennessee state police didn't take them downtown right then or take them to the

00:52:03.180 who's gal just to figure out what's going on. They let them go. This is what happens every day in

00:52:08.380 this country. Don't think the law enforcement is totally on top of this. We love the cops.

00:52:12.700 But this happens every day because it's too much. Once you do that, you're in immigration. It's a 0.94

00:52:17.020 pain in the ass. They want to go. They want to go lock up bad guys. I get that. But don't think 1.00

00:52:24.060 that because ICE is not around once in the interior, they move around. You're seeing it right here.

00:52:30.140 This guy was a human trafficker in the process of trafficking eight individuals to Maryland to work

00:52:36.460 for slave wages. Because that's the way the system works. And unless you call it out every day, 0.97

00:52:45.580 nothing changes. Ben's going to hang on. I got Davis. I'm talking about this constitutional crisis.

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Bannon's War Room - April 24, 2025

Episode 4436： The Casino Market; Stopping The Illegal Smuggling Taking Place In The US

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