Bannon's War Room - Episode 446： Trump’s Medicaid Promise Under Siege By RINO’s, President Trump Selects New Surgeon General

00:00:00.000 Which, frankly, I think makes their MAGA subversion escapades just all the worse.

00:00:06.040 Excellent assessment. Take over the show. Natalie, have a great couple hours. Talk to you again soon.

00:00:12.420 Eric Bolling, thank you so much. And Warren Posse, thank you for hanging with me today, Wednesday, May 7th, in the year of our Lord, 2025.

00:00:21.060 We have a probably enraging cold open that I want to roll for you.

00:00:24.340 I'll put a trigger warning. If you care about borders and sovereignty, you're probably not going to like this one very much. Let's roll it.

00:00:30.000 New surveillance videos showing immigration enforcement agents talking to management at the Millie's restaurant on Massachusetts Avenue Tuesday morning.

00:00:38.560 Millie's owner says agents asked to see I-9 forms.

00:00:41.940 It's very concerning. The employees are very scared. We're worried about some of them not coming back to work.

00:00:51.380 And just a general panic amongst the people that it affects.

00:00:56.440 Nearly a dozen law enforcement and immigration officials wearing DHS uniforms also walking into El Centro Restaurant in Georgetown.

00:01:05.740 Chef Jeff's Restaurant on New Mexico Avenue Northwest.

00:01:09.640 And Ghost Burger on 9th Street Northwest.

00:01:12.300 Again, wanting I-9 forms, which are employment verification forms used to make sure if employees are legally allowed to work in the United States.

00:01:20.500 This video showing what appears to be someone taken into custody.

00:01:25.380 D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser saying D.C. police are not involved in the crackdown.

00:01:30.060 I have heard those reports. I've been getting them all morning. I am disturbed by them.

00:01:35.280 It appears that ICE is at restaurants or even in neighborhoods.

00:01:41.100 And it doesn't look like they're targeting criminals.

00:01:43.660 And so it is disrupting.

00:01:46.920 Immigration support organizations want to remind workers that they have a right to remain silent, don't sign any documents, and call an immigration attorney.

00:01:58.100 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:02:03.360 Pray for our enemies.

00:02:05.280 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:02:07.220 You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:02:12.860 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:02:14.820 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:02:16.240 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:02:18.880 It's going to happen.

00:02:20.160 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:02:23.540 Mega media.

00:02:24.900 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:02:30.300 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:02:33.460 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:02:40.380 War Room.

00:02:41.280 Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:02:49.420 You're in the War Room here in Washington, D.C., where I guess something good, something pro-sovereignty, and no, no caveat for Ukraine necessary,

00:02:59.720 this time around happened for once in this city, and we're going to drill down on that ice raid that we saw go down.

00:03:08.220 A lot of interesting characters involved in that one, but frankly, because I think it is a sinisterly accurate microcosm

00:03:16.760 for what the ruling class of this country has done to what is supposedly their own country,

00:03:23.480 what they've done to us through the vertical of immigration, which, to summarize, maybe I'd quote Andrew Breitbart and say,

00:03:30.680 war, but of all forms, economic, cultural, kinetic, take your pick.

00:03:36.160 But last night, ICE agents raided a slew of D.C. restaurants.

00:03:42.400 I'm going to single out two of them.

00:03:44.480 I'm proud to say that I've never eaten there, nor will I.

00:03:48.620 But one of them, it gets really interesting.

00:03:50.920 It goes by the name of Chef Jeff's, which is a small chain of restaurants owned by the husband of, catch this,

00:03:59.700 CBS's Nora O'Donnell.

00:04:02.940 I'll run that again for you.

00:04:04.360 The spouse of someone who has spent, what, decades on air, a taxpayer somehow subsidized, I'm sure,

00:04:12.280 propaganda mill telling you that you're a nativist and a racist for daring to question what is the great replacement theory.

00:04:20.660 Her husband is busy, I guess at least per ICE or DHS, probably, allegedly, hiring illegal aliens.

00:04:28.720 And my personal favorite part of this story is the way that the new republic decided to spin it.

00:04:35.640 Quote, is Trump now using ICE to take revenge on CBS?

00:04:40.980 Let that sink in.

00:04:44.300 An establishment is potentially caught using legal alien labor.

00:04:49.100 And the left-wing media's defense of it is that that's somehow President Trump weaponizing

00:04:56.560 immigration and customs enforcement to go after, frankly, a news outlet that probably deserves it.

00:05:03.740 But I digress on that point.

00:05:05.780 I've probably seen no better example of what we call it in the media,

00:05:09.300 DARVO, the deny, attack, and reverse victim and offender.

00:05:13.800 However, sorry, new republic, it's not the restaurants or the illegal aliens that are the victims. 0.62

00:05:19.820 That's victim blaming.

00:05:20.980 It's the American people and the American citizens who I'm sure would have loved to have had those jobs

00:05:25.940 or at least, at the very least, not had their wages depressed by the scam, the racket, and the fraud

00:05:31.740 that is illegal immigration.

00:05:34.820 And then it gets even better because the other restaurant that they targeted,

00:05:39.700 Jaleo, I think that's how you pronounce it, like I said, I've never been,

00:05:43.800 I don't really think the food is probably all that good.

00:05:46.860 I don't know about you guys.

00:05:47.740 I guess I like my cuisine prepared by citizens and not illegal aliens, call it an America first palette. 0.98

00:05:54.520 But this is a restaurant by Jose Andres, who not only was he recently bestowed the,

00:06:01.460 what was it, Presidential Medal of Freedom by Joe Biden,

00:06:04.760 but in 2022, he was appointed as Joe Biden's co-chair of the President's Council on Sports, Fitness, and Nutrition.

00:06:15.620 But here's where it gets really good, because President Obama actually made him the ambassador

00:06:21.680 for citizenship and naturalization.

00:06:25.020 Now, I would say that's quite ironic that his restaurant's getting raided for hiring illegal aliens, 1.00

00:06:33.420 but I think that's maybe just the self-fulfilling prophecy that is the way that elites have always viewed

00:06:39.700 citizenship, naturalization, immigration, and sovereignty,

00:06:43.720 which is, I guess, a corporate-subsidized or business-subsidized complete and utter destruction

00:06:49.880 of the American working class.

00:06:52.180 So, I guess, Nora O'Donnell could not just lie to you every night on TV,

00:06:55.720 but her husband can have better profit margins at his restaurant

00:06:59.360 at the expense of your wages,

00:07:01.700 so he can hire illegal aliens from, I guess, Venezuela.

00:07:05.400 And speaking of Venezuela, this now gets very interesting,

00:07:10.920 and it's going to run all the way back to, you guessed it, Mark Zuckerberg.

00:07:15.940 But some of the groups that actually,

00:07:18.640 I guess we can start the clock, because we're going to need an investigation on this as well,

00:07:23.940 but one of the groups that actually had advanced notice of these raids happening

00:07:28.980 is a group, a very radical group at that, by the name of Casa Maryland.

00:07:32.740 Now, we had exposed, I believe, last month on this show

00:07:36.620 that this organization has received at least $250,000 worth of funding

00:07:42.320 from Forward U.S., which is the group that Mark Zuckerberg co-founded,

00:07:47.220 one of the largest pro-open borders advocacy organizations that exists

00:07:51.420 on the left and the right.

00:07:54.120 But let's read the quote that they put out to their network of people

00:07:57.160 to try to avoid deportations.

00:07:58.920 Quote,

00:07:59.200 So I think DHS maybe needs to get to the bottom of who's leaking.

00:08:17.080 There, I fully endorse the use of polygraphs on that one.

00:08:22.220 But what's so interesting, too,

00:08:24.000 you want to talk about the subversion of this country from start to finish,

00:08:27.580 from the border all the way to the interior of this country.

00:08:31.040 Casa Maryland has also received millions of dollars

00:08:34.320 from Venezuelan government-owned companies such as Citgo Petroleum.

00:08:39.760 So let that sink in.

00:08:44.140 The Venezuelan government is funding organizations that are preemptively letting illegal aliens know

00:08:49.980 that they may be deported by President Trump's ICE.

00:08:52.780 And I know we always say that we're on both sides of the trade when it comes to Middle East wars

00:08:59.080 or what's going on in Ukraine,

00:09:00.300 but this even gets more interesting because Casa Maryland,

00:09:03.740 again, the group at the tip of the spear trying to avoid these illegals from getting deported, 0.88

00:09:08.280 well, they also receive millions of dollars in federal subsidies and contracts and grants.

00:09:13.360 Now, the funding is very dark money, is very clandestine, shall we say,

00:09:18.900 but certain reporting, even from the Washington Post all the way back in 2011,

00:09:23.000 noted that nearly half of their $6 million budget comes from local, state, and federal appropriations,

00:09:28.800 and all the way through 2017, they've received at least a million dollars from the DOJ and the Department of Labor.

00:09:38.220 And to make this whole story, I think, even more concerning,

00:09:41.760 and I'm going to use the word that I'm pretty sure Nora O'Donnell has probably told me

00:09:45.340 that I'm not allowed to use, and that's called the Enemy Within.

00:09:49.800 There's another group called the, get ready for this one,

00:09:52.900 Migrant Solidarity Mutual Aid Network.

00:09:56.240 That's a mouthful, but I'll cut through that.

00:09:58.460 It's basically, again, helping illegal aliens avoid deportation.

00:10:01.920 And you want to know how they conduct their fundraising operations?

00:10:06.640 They use a little platform that you've probably heard of called ActBlue.

00:10:11.760 It's quite interesting, right?

00:10:14.080 The same organization that's, what, busy taking in foreign cash and smurfing donations

00:10:19.160 from American citizens to fund Democratic candidates,

00:10:22.660 and suddenly we have a very, very well-financed open border invasion.

00:10:26.400 I would humbly suggest that the DOJ look into that as well.

00:10:33.080 And I think the logical question to all this would be, well, where are the Republicans?

00:10:38.600 And I think you guys are the smartest audience that exists in all of this wonderful new media

00:10:43.880 sphere that we inhabit.

00:10:45.100 And you would know that they're probably busy trying to sabotage President Trump's agenda.

00:10:49.340 I'm looking at you, Tom Tillis, when it comes to Ed Martin.

00:10:52.460 But someone who, I guess, really just has a penchant for getting it wrong and wrong and wrong,

00:10:57.920 or I guess maybe in his weird donor-funded worldview, getting it right on illegal immigration,

00:11:02.860 and that's none other than Senator Lankford.

00:11:04.960 While this raid was going down, let's see what he was talking about,

00:11:07.860 why it's so important for due process to be had by illegal aliens in the United States. 0.87

00:11:12.460 What's been confusing on this is some people see due process like as an American citizen.

00:11:18.440 That's a right to a jury trial.

00:11:20.140 That's all those different things.

00:11:21.060 That's not true for due process for someone who's not a citizen in the United States.

00:11:25.320 It's a different process.

00:11:26.480 It's often just literally what people call an immigration judge

00:11:29.760 is not a typical federal judge or a state judge.

00:11:32.840 This is someone that's in the bureaucracy that their task for DHS is that task on it.

00:11:38.140 So they're a government employee career that's an immigration judge.

00:11:41.640 So it's a very different process for it.

00:11:44.020 But yes, there's a need to be able to give an opportunity for someone to be able to make an argument

00:11:47.760 before they're removed in the country.

00:11:50.740 Now, Senator Lankford, I know the phrase due process is apparently 50% of Washington, D.C.'s vocabulary right now.

00:11:58.380 But it's quite interesting to me because the same people who are now apoplectic

00:12:02.200 and melting down over due process for, I don't know, convicted rapists, illegal aliens,

00:12:06.680 yet where were you guys on calling for due process for, I don't know,

00:12:10.340 how many millions of Americans who were censored from every big tech platform,

00:12:15.580 government-coordinated, might I add?

00:12:18.820 I would agree.

00:12:19.760 America is in need of due process for people like, I don't know, the Jan Sixers, 1.00

00:12:23.560 people like Stephen K. Bannon,

00:12:25.080 people who protested outside abortion clinics and prayed the rosary.

00:12:28.560 Yeah, they probably need some due process.

00:12:30.900 As far as I'm concerned, all legal aliens need is processing. 1.00

00:12:34.100 It's sort of like to me when you hear them euphemize, what is it, you know,

00:12:39.380 the mutilation of young children, right?

00:12:41.580 It's not gender-affirming care, right?

00:12:44.240 That's the sort of whitewashed PR term that they use to make it more salient among the masses.

00:12:48.740 Yeah, due process is what?

00:12:50.400 Essentially, I guess, just the whitewashing euphemism for saying,

00:12:54.160 hey, I don't think we're allowed to deport a bunch of people who essentially invaded this country. 1.00

00:12:58.520 Last time I checked, have you ever heard these people call for, I don't know,

00:13:03.760 due process for Ukrainians to kill Russians? 0.52

00:13:06.600 Due process for Russians? 0.97

00:13:09.080 No, because to them, that's an invasion.

00:13:11.600 So, you know, whatever, do what you want.

00:13:13.360 But what happened to this country under Joe Biden, apparently, is not as bad.

00:13:17.300 It didn't reach the level of invasion.

00:13:19.500 So they now are, I guess, bestowed due process.

00:13:22.760 From countries where I'd love to see if the rule of law even exists 1.00

00:13:25.860 in a bunch of these third-world countries that these people are coming from,

00:13:28.980 something tells me it doesn't.

00:13:30.800 And I guess what?

00:13:31.460 Speaking of the rule of law,

00:13:32.960 that's apparently the other phrase that occupies the other 50% of their vocabulary.

00:13:37.320 Yeah, I'm going to push back on that at face value.

00:13:39.820 Rule of law, really?

00:13:40.800 You think that exists in this country?

00:13:42.860 Rule of law means what?

00:13:44.120 You get a trial with Judge Mershon as your judge,

00:13:46.920 whose daughter's going to be fundraising

00:13:48.760 off of your motivated political persecutions against President Trump,

00:13:52.960 or, I don't know, conveniently how Judge Boesberg seems to keep getting

00:13:56.060 every single case that's against President Trump.

00:13:59.020 That's what rule of law is to you.

00:14:02.000 It is all performative.

00:14:04.900 The R word and the D word, due process and rule of law.

00:14:08.280 And by the way, these Republicans on the House side, too, they're equally bad.

00:14:12.440 They decided this week to cancel the vote that would have stripped the funding

00:14:15.520 that Doge found from USAID, I think we're talking upwards of $9 billion,

00:14:19.200 in addition to PBS and NPR.

00:14:26.740 These are not serious people.

00:14:29.140 It's purely performative.

00:14:31.840 And guys, I know you watch this show.

00:14:33.480 It's insulting to our intelligence.

00:14:37.240 We'll take a little due process on you guys

00:14:40.080 and make sure that you're actually implementing the MAGA agenda

00:14:42.440 because as far as I've seen, even if you started the clock just,

00:14:45.580 I don't know, this morning,

00:14:46.560 there's a lot of evidence that you guys aren't.

00:14:49.360 We've got a packed show.

00:14:50.520 Laura Loomer, Mike Davis, so much more.

00:14:53.240 Make sure you hang around.

00:14:54.900 Explosive scoops, as you could probably guess, from Laura Loomer.

00:14:57.900 We'll be right back after this break.

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00:17:05.840 to account is none other than Laura Loomer,

00:17:08.000 who I'm honored to be joined by.

00:17:10.080 I want to read you a headline from The Bulwark,

00:17:12.300 which I don't typically unironically quote from,

00:17:15.020 but I like it today.

00:17:16.060 Laura Loomer just called the GOP's bluff 1.00

00:17:18.120 on Medicaid cuts.

00:17:19.460 This audience knows that we've been

00:17:20.920 really, I think, duking it out

00:17:22.680 with some of the more rhino establishment wings

00:17:25.180 of the Republican Party

00:17:26.300 over these Medicaid cuts.

00:17:27.760 You have a really groundbreaking scoop,

00:17:29.640 which when I first texted you,

00:17:31.340 it was just percolating.

00:17:32.640 Now it seems like the man that you,

00:17:34.160 shall we say,

00:17:34.840 loomered is already adjusting,

00:17:36.660 deleting some tweets.

00:17:37.500 If you want to walk the audience through

00:17:38.820 this story sort of from start to finish,

00:17:41.120 and then we can talk through

00:17:43.060 maybe where you think

00:17:43.820 these Medicaid cuts are going to end up.

00:17:47.220 Yeah, so thanks for having me on.

00:17:48.800 Look, a lot of the discussion

00:17:50.960 as it relates to the big, beautiful bill

00:17:54.960 over the last couple of weeks

00:17:56.580 and a lot of these talking points

00:17:58.680 that are being spewed by the radical left

00:18:01.100 as it relates to their strategy

00:18:02.920 to undermine President Trump

00:18:05.320 and somehow find a footing

00:18:07.200 to regain a sense of power

00:18:09.460 as we head into the midterms in 2026

00:18:12.180 has revolved around this false idea

00:18:14.840 that President Trump

00:18:15.760 is going to be cutting Medicaid.

00:18:17.460 President Trump has doubled down

00:18:19.860 on his commitment to protecting Medicaid

00:18:22.040 countless times over and over again.

00:18:24.460 And yet every single time,

00:18:25.940 either myself or Loomer Unleashed staff

00:18:28.360 are out in the field in Washington, D.C.

00:18:30.580 or around the country

00:18:31.700 documenting all of these radical

00:18:33.740 left Democrat protests

00:18:35.120 that we're seeing pop up,

00:18:36.720 they all have signs that say

00:18:37.980 protect Medicaid

00:18:38.840 or Donald Trump and Elon Musk

00:18:40.440 are going to be cutting Medicaid.

00:18:42.480 And one of the individuals

00:18:44.300 who is going around Washington, D.C.

00:18:46.960 trying to encourage Republicans

00:18:48.720 to cut Medicaid

00:18:49.760 is an individual

00:18:50.620 by the name of Brian Blaze.

00:18:52.480 We can go ahead

00:18:52.880 and get my tweet pulled up

00:18:53.880 if you want

00:18:54.300 and people can see this for themselves

00:18:55.620 because I like to show the receipts,

00:18:57.660 you know,

00:18:57.900 and all the receipts

00:18:58.640 are underneath my tweet.

00:19:00.060 But it says that

00:19:01.300 Trump's Medicaid promise

00:19:03.360 is under siege

00:19:04.120 by rhino saboteurs

00:19:05.080 like Paragon Health CEO

00:19:06.320 Brian Blaze.

00:19:07.120 And he's funded by the Kochs

00:19:10.300 and he's a never-Trumper

00:19:11.660 according to his previous

00:19:13.880 social media tweets

00:19:15.200 that I've uncovered,

00:19:16.220 obviously trying to masquerade

00:19:18.180 as a MAGA loyalist,

00:19:19.680 which is what all of these

00:19:20.660 subversive creatures try to do.

00:19:23.400 And this is a really dangerous game

00:19:25.400 that he's playing,

00:19:26.400 going around trying to create

00:19:28.760 this sort of playbook,

00:19:30.320 authoring letters and pamphlets

00:19:33.600 for congressional Republicans.

00:19:35.980 There was a report

00:19:36.960 that came out on May 4th

00:19:38.740 that even said

00:19:39.340 Koch-funded group

00:19:40.280 authored House GOP letter

00:19:41.620 demanding Medicaid cuts.

00:19:43.300 And so he's trying to undermine

00:19:45.320 President Trump's agenda.

00:19:46.920 I don't know who this guy

00:19:47.840 thinks he is.

00:19:48.560 He, I guess,

00:19:49.460 worked within the Trump administration

00:19:50.940 at some point.

00:19:52.000 And so he thinks that

00:19:52.940 that gives him a license

00:19:53.940 to call himself a Trump ally.

00:19:56.480 Little does he know

00:19:57.180 that some of the worst offenders

00:19:59.700 when it comes to never-Trumpers

00:20:01.620 and saboteurs

00:20:02.460 and people that like to attack

00:20:04.580 and subvert and malign

00:20:05.940 Donald Trump

00:20:06.420 and his administration

00:20:07.400 and his America First agenda

00:20:08.980 are people who worked

00:20:10.620 within the Trump administration.

00:20:12.400 Some of these individuals

00:20:13.260 are still there, unfortunately,

00:20:15.260 as I have uncovered

00:20:16.300 over the last several months

00:20:17.480 through my White House

00:20:18.460 vetting crisis series.

00:20:20.180 And so, Natalie,

00:20:21.120 this guy now is crying

00:20:23.000 and trying to go back in time

00:20:24.580 and delete a lot of his tweets.

00:20:26.360 And I guess I caused him

00:20:27.760 to have a full-fledged meltdown

00:20:29.140 because he's been taking

00:20:30.080 to the Internet,

00:20:30.920 attacking House Republicans,

00:20:32.800 congressional leadership,

00:20:33.720 and the GOP saying

00:20:35.560 that if they don't succeed

00:20:37.120 in cutting Medicaid,

00:20:39.000 then they are just

00:20:39.780 a bunch of failures.

00:20:40.980 And you can see there

00:20:42.060 on the screen,

00:20:42.620 it says this is why

00:20:43.360 we can't have Trump

00:20:44.360 entitlement reform

00:20:45.280 as the most important issue.

00:20:47.240 So, clearly, Brian

00:20:49.300 and I have different

00:20:50.380 understandings

00:20:51.160 of what it means

00:20:51.840 to be a Trump loyalist

00:20:53.220 because to be a Trump loyalist

00:20:54.600 means you've never

00:20:55.400 crossed Donald Trump.

00:20:57.040 You've never attacked

00:20:57.880 Donald Trump

00:20:58.440 in terms of being against him

00:20:59.940 as a candidate

00:21:01.840 for president

00:21:02.600 and I just showed you

00:21:03.620 the receipts.

00:21:04.340 He clearly was opposed

00:21:05.480 to Trump.

00:21:06.000 He said,

00:21:06.600 we can never have Trump.

00:21:08.160 So, I don't know

00:21:08.940 where this guy

00:21:09.460 is getting the term

00:21:10.200 MAGA loyalist from

00:21:11.120 because he's not

00:21:11.920 a MAGA loyalist.

00:21:12.860 I'm a MAGA loyalist.

00:21:14.100 Brian Blaze,

00:21:14.760 not so much.

00:21:16.940 I'm curious.

00:21:17.780 There was a quote

00:21:18.480 that I think

00:21:18.940 is quite interesting

00:21:19.660 from you.

00:21:20.220 We know Medicaid cuts

00:21:21.300 would be a death wish

00:21:22.220 during the midterms.

00:21:23.140 We obviously believe that.

00:21:24.720 Here in the war room,

00:21:25.840 I'm curious when you try

00:21:26.880 to understand

00:21:27.440 the motivations,

00:21:28.360 obviously,

00:21:28.840 the Koch network,

00:21:29.900 you know,

00:21:30.040 this guy is,

00:21:30.720 to use a phrase,

00:21:31.680 a listless vessel

00:21:32.460 for their ambitions,

00:21:33.520 their aspirations.

00:21:34.820 But do you think

00:21:35.360 that this is something

00:21:36.080 that is contained

00:21:36.940 solely to the issue

00:21:38.200 of Medicaid cuts?

00:21:39.640 In other words,

00:21:40.120 it's, you know,

00:21:40.740 healthcare apparatus,

00:21:41.880 big pharma,

00:21:42.340 all of those people

00:21:43.040 just wanting to have

00:21:43.820 their payday.

00:21:44.560 Or do you think

00:21:45.300 that this is something

00:21:45.980 more nefarious

00:21:46.880 in terms of kneecapping

00:21:48.020 and sabotaging

00:21:49.060 President Trump's momentum

00:21:50.580 barreling into 2026,

00:21:52.780 potentially leading,

00:21:53.840 you know,

00:21:54.180 to him being impeached

00:21:55.160 if we lose the House?

00:21:56.180 This isn't just,

00:21:59.500 you know,

00:22:00.280 designated to the issue

00:22:01.740 of Medicaid

00:22:02.340 or healthcare,

00:22:03.680 Natalie.

00:22:04.220 I've been talking about

00:22:05.480 what I've coined

00:22:06.100 as the Koch coup.

00:22:07.460 And I've been talking

00:22:08.140 about this for several

00:22:09.240 months now

00:22:09.920 as I've been watching

00:22:11.240 the subversive nature

00:22:12.480 of some of the appointees

00:22:14.280 who have been nominated

00:22:15.360 to serve in positions

00:22:16.480 in the Trump administration.

00:22:18.140 And some of the most

00:22:19.140 glaring examples

00:22:20.320 of the vetting crisis

00:22:21.960 that I've uncovered

00:22:22.940 are individuals themselves

00:22:24.460 who are tied

00:22:25.720 to the Koch network.

00:22:26.820 And so there seems

00:22:27.660 to be this subversive,

00:22:29.100 calculated effort

00:22:31.360 by members

00:22:32.340 of this Koch network

00:22:33.560 to find ways

00:22:35.020 to sneak into key positions

00:22:36.860 within the Trump administration,

00:22:38.580 whether it be Ruger

00:22:40.360 over at DNI

00:22:41.560 under Tulsi Gabbard,

00:22:42.660 or whether it be

00:22:43.440 this individual himself,

00:22:45.240 Brian Blaze,

00:22:46.080 who is the head

00:22:47.420 of Paragon Health

00:22:48.460 and is funded

00:22:49.200 by the Kochs.

00:22:50.660 How can you call yourself

00:22:51.820 a Trump ally

00:22:52.580 when we know

00:22:53.280 that the Kochs

00:22:54.420 essentially exist

00:22:55.880 in the current state

00:22:59.520 of affairs

00:23:00.080 to undermine

00:23:01.120 and sabotage

00:23:01.780 Donald Trump?

00:23:02.560 I mean,

00:23:02.720 from the very get-go,

00:23:04.440 the Kochs invested

00:23:05.580 millions of dollars

00:23:06.620 opposing President Trump

00:23:07.720 when he first ran.

00:23:09.000 And we saw

00:23:09.620 that even now

00:23:10.380 they're funding lawsuits

00:23:11.920 against his tariffs.

00:23:12.940 This is another story

00:23:13.740 that I exposed

00:23:14.580 a couple weeks ago.

00:23:16.260 And the groups

00:23:16.900 that the Kochs

00:23:17.740 are notorious

00:23:18.760 for funding,

00:23:20.000 especially the

00:23:20.560 Federalist Society,

00:23:21.920 there was just

00:23:22.380 a big scandal

00:23:22.940 a couple weeks ago

00:23:23.800 in the media,

00:23:24.580 Natalie,

00:23:25.120 for these donations

00:23:26.760 and how the Koch network

00:23:29.380 is trying to subvert

00:23:30.760 the Trump administration.

00:23:32.520 And so it doesn't matter

00:23:33.520 if they're so-called

00:23:34.300 libertarian

00:23:34.960 or Republican donors.

00:23:36.040 We know we have

00:23:37.100 the receipts,

00:23:37.720 we have the financial record,

00:23:38.960 we have followed

00:23:39.860 the money

00:23:40.480 to prove

00:23:41.440 that the Kochs

00:23:42.340 are trying to undermine

00:23:43.400 President Trump.

00:23:44.220 And so,

00:23:45.280 by that logic,

00:23:46.600 if you are funded

00:23:47.620 by the Kochs,

00:23:48.540 how can you then

00:23:49.320 call yourself

00:23:50.140 a Trump ally,

00:23:51.240 right?

00:23:51.460 This is what he's doing.

00:23:52.500 You can pull up

00:23:53.320 another article

00:23:53.960 that just came out,

00:23:54.860 I believe it came out

00:23:55.740 today in Politico,

00:23:57.440 and he's talking

00:23:59.060 about how,

00:24:00.540 oh, well,

00:24:01.240 Laura Loomer

00:24:01.800 isn't being honest,

00:24:03.300 I'm a Trump ally,

00:24:04.460 I worked with

00:24:05.000 President Trump,

00:24:05.700 I support his agenda,

00:24:07.040 but then he doesn't

00:24:08.420 want to answer

00:24:08.960 for his previous tweets

00:24:10.260 in which he said

00:24:10.900 we can never have Trump

00:24:11.940 and he doesn't want

00:24:12.480 to answer for why

00:24:13.280 he's trying to get

00:24:14.420 House Republicans

00:24:15.540 to go against

00:24:16.620 President Trump

00:24:17.380 who is on video.

00:24:18.260 I mean,

00:24:18.540 how many times

00:24:19.040 do we have to play

00:24:19.600 these clips

00:24:20.040 from President Trump

00:24:20.820 saying that he's going

00:24:21.580 to secure Medicaid?

00:24:23.320 We have all of the numbers here.

00:24:25.280 Recent polling

00:24:26.000 that was just released

00:24:27.540 a couple weeks ago,

00:24:28.400 and I know that Steve Bannon

00:24:29.780 also covered this

00:24:31.060 here on War Room,

00:24:32.060 shows that 78%

00:24:33.620 of Republican voters

00:24:34.840 firmly support Medicaid

00:24:36.220 according to recent polling.

00:24:38.340 And so,

00:24:38.860 why would we want to hand

00:24:40.240 the Democrats an advantage

00:24:41.540 in 2026

00:24:43.220 in the midterms

00:24:43.800 when we already have

00:24:44.320 such a slim majority

00:24:45.340 and we know how feckless 0.99

00:24:46.480 and incompetent 1.00

00:24:47.300 and stupid? 1.00

00:24:48.200 Well, maybe they're not stupid. 1.00

00:24:49.360 At this point, 0.99

00:24:49.820 I think it's just

00:24:50.400 deliberate sabotage

00:24:51.620 and malicious intent

00:24:53.640 from the Republicans, right?

00:24:54.940 We give them too much credit

00:24:55.860 when we allow them

00:24:56.780 to have the excuse 1.00

00:24:57.520 that they're stupid. 1.00

00:24:58.360 It's all coordinated, right? 1.00

00:24:59.880 These are people

00:25:00.600 who have shown us

00:25:01.480 that they do not want

00:25:02.320 to codify President Trump's agenda.

00:25:04.760 So, if they're not going

00:25:05.940 to codify Trump's agenda,

00:25:07.380 that's already going to lead

00:25:08.500 to voter suppression

00:25:09.640 going into 2026.

00:25:11.580 Imagine what cutting Medicaid,

00:25:13.480 which 78% of MAGA voters support,

00:25:16.360 according to recent polling,

00:25:17.680 is going to do

00:25:18.460 to suppress turnout in midterms.

00:25:20.300 It's almost like

00:25:20.780 they want the Democrats to win

00:25:22.340 so that they can get

00:25:23.360 their final stab at Trump,

00:25:24.640 their last shot, right? 0.74

00:25:26.600 They failed at assassinating him

00:25:28.140 multiple times.

00:25:28.960 They failed at impeaching him.

00:25:30.380 They failed at stealing

00:25:31.180 the election this time around.

00:25:32.740 It's their last shot, Natalie,

00:25:34.260 to lose the House

00:25:35.300 so that they can give

00:25:36.060 the Democrats

00:25:36.600 one last excuse

00:25:37.760 to impeach Donald Trump

00:25:39.000 and slow down

00:25:40.120 and obstruct his entire agenda

00:25:41.700 in the last two years

00:25:42.920 of his administration.

00:25:43.680 We've got a few minutes

00:25:46.640 before break.

00:25:47.460 I'd like to hold you,

00:25:48.300 if we can,

00:25:48.700 to get into the,

00:25:49.520 shall we say,

00:25:50.180 developing news

00:25:51.180 when it comes to

00:25:51.720 President Trump's

00:25:52.320 surge in general pick.

00:25:53.380 But just today, for example,

00:25:55.180 they sort of, you know,

00:25:56.100 covertly canceled votes

00:25:57.420 on defunding USAID, PBS,

00:26:00.760 NPR,

00:26:01.640 essentially all one in the same.

00:26:04.220 But your thoughts

00:26:05.040 on how you even attempt

00:26:06.500 to, you know,

00:26:07.240 justify this idea

00:26:08.680 that if we're going

00:26:09.920 to make cuts,

00:26:10.700 which apparently we can't do

00:26:11.860 on the doge side, right,

00:26:12.980 it's only going to be

00:26:13.600 $150 billion,

00:26:14.780 it's not the $2 trillion

00:26:15.600 that was initially promised,

00:26:16.980 but they're willing

00:26:17.680 to draw down on Medicaid,

00:26:19.620 which is, you know,

00:26:20.400 so inherently important

00:26:21.780 to not just MAGA voters,

00:26:23.100 but to the country writ large.

00:26:24.880 I mean, I think that

00:26:25.540 that sort of is the case

00:26:27.060 that you are making,

00:26:27.840 that this is political.

00:26:28.680 But your thoughts

00:26:29.400 on the cancellation

00:26:29.920 of that vote?

00:26:32.720 Look, I think it's really simple,

00:26:34.000 and I think it's very telling

00:26:35.120 that there's not discussions

00:26:36.620 taking place

00:26:37.380 about increasing

00:26:38.380 the speed of mass deportations

00:26:40.340 and the enormous burden

00:26:41.840 on our health care industry

00:26:43.140 and just, you know,

00:26:44.920 health care in general

00:26:45.700 that illegal aliens present 1.00

00:26:47.280 to the American taxpayer.

00:26:48.700 And so I think it's logical.

00:26:50.840 Don't cut Medicaid, right,

00:26:52.380 from hardworking Americans

00:26:53.500 and, you know,

00:26:54.620 key MAGA voters,

00:26:55.780 the heartland of this country

00:26:57.320 that secured

00:26:58.080 these election victories

00:26:59.040 for President Trump.

00:27:00.500 Start increasing

00:27:01.260 mass deportations

00:27:02.540 and decreasing the burden

00:27:04.800 that these criminal 0.54

00:27:06.020 illegal aliens 0.99

00:27:06.860 are placing

00:27:07.480 on our health care system,

00:27:10.020 right,

00:27:10.260 on the Medicaid system.

00:27:11.600 So, you know,

00:27:12.660 it's not rocket science.

00:27:13.860 You don't have to be

00:27:14.940 a member of Congress

00:27:16.660 to understand

00:27:17.760 how this works.

00:27:18.620 But apparently

00:27:19.260 it's very difficult

00:27:20.140 for people like Brian Blaze

00:27:21.540 to understand this subject,

00:27:23.560 and it's very difficult

00:27:24.560 for House Republicans

00:27:25.660 to, you know,

00:27:26.780 simply go along

00:27:27.680 with President Trump's,

00:27:28.960 you know,

00:27:29.200 deportation efforts

00:27:30.280 and to support his agenda

00:27:32.780 and to codify his agenda.

00:27:34.860 And I don't know,

00:27:35.760 maybe if people like Jim Jordan

00:27:37.560 started putting more effort

00:27:38.600 into impeaching

00:27:39.260 some of these radical judges

00:27:40.540 who are trying to stop

00:27:41.580 the mass deportations,

00:27:43.280 we could kill two birds

00:27:44.400 with one stone, right? 0.99

00:27:45.820 We could get all the illegals out 1.00

00:27:47.180 and we could lower health care costs.

00:27:47.860 I guess the best they can do

00:27:48.640 is not even a full committee hearing.

00:27:50.660 It's a subcommittee hearing

00:27:52.000 that I guess ultimately

00:27:52.800 gets canceled.

00:27:53.560 Laura, if you can hang with us

00:27:54.460 through the break,

00:27:55.000 I'd love to get your thoughts

00:27:55.960 on the Surgeon General pick

00:27:57.100 because you probably

00:27:57.720 had a hand in some of that,

00:27:59.380 at least allegedly.

00:28:00.340 And by the way,

00:28:00.780 quick shout out,

00:28:01.420 Charles Downs,

00:28:02.280 who is part of your Lumen team,

00:28:03.480 does wonderful work.

00:28:04.080 I always see him walking around

00:28:05.180 the Capitol,

00:28:06.520 sort of, I guess,

00:28:07.480 mini loomering a bunch of people.

00:28:08.940 So you guys do

00:28:09.620 a great operation here.

00:28:11.020 Honored to have you on.

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00:30:04.180 Laura, we've got a few minutes

00:30:04.900 left with you.

00:30:05.420 We're going to have Mike Davis

00:30:06.120 on after.

00:30:07.540 But as you were coming on,

00:30:08.620 there was some breaking news

00:30:09.580 that President Trump's

00:30:10.420 pick for Surgeon General,

00:30:12.460 Jeanette Nushawatt,

00:30:13.540 has been abandoned,

00:30:14.900 scrapped,

00:30:15.400 in favor of Casey Means,

00:30:18.420 or rather,

00:30:18.680 Callie Means,

00:30:19.500 who I think is wonderful

00:30:20.380 as a strong Maha person myself.

00:30:22.720 But Laura, 0.99

00:30:23.740 walk us through

00:30:24.660 sort of what happened here.

00:30:26.240 I know you had some,

00:30:27.840 shall we say,

00:30:28.200 receipts on Dr. Nushawatt.

00:30:32.300 Thanks, Natalie.

00:30:33.520 Yeah, look,

00:30:34.000 this is just a continuation

00:30:35.300 of the White House

00:30:36.660 vetting crisis.

00:30:37.340 I don't know who's in charge

00:30:39.680 of this vetting department

00:30:40.840 that doesn't really seem

00:30:41.960 to exist within the White House,

00:30:43.300 but it's becoming

00:30:44.080 extremely problematic.

00:30:45.880 I had a meeting

00:30:46.920 with President Trump

00:30:47.980 in the beginning of April

00:30:48.980 that was quite,

00:30:49.880 you know,

00:30:50.580 largely publicized.

00:30:52.700 I mean,

00:30:53.140 everybody saw it, right?

00:30:54.120 There's no denying

00:30:54.700 what happened

00:30:55.300 in the aftermath

00:30:56.100 of that meeting.

00:30:57.280 A lot of people were fired.

00:30:58.680 And the problem is,

00:31:00.280 Natalie,

00:31:00.620 is that we wouldn't be needing

00:31:01.840 to have these mass firings

00:31:03.320 of people who are

00:31:04.200 in charge of vetting

00:31:05.280 or during,

00:31:06.100 you know,

00:31:06.360 the transition period

00:31:07.220 would have actually done

00:31:08.360 proper vetting

00:31:09.080 on the individuals

00:31:09.900 who have been brought

00:31:10.640 into the Trump administration.

00:31:11.680 And so I don't work

00:31:13.880 for Donald Trump.

00:31:14.760 I don't tell Donald Trump

00:31:15.640 what to do,

00:31:16.340 but I am an independent journalist.

00:31:18.240 I do my own investigations,

00:31:20.060 my own research.

00:31:20.980 I am an opposition researcher.

00:31:22.560 And I believe I have a duty

00:31:23.860 to help protect the president

00:31:25.060 and to make sure

00:31:25.920 that the people

00:31:26.560 that are,

00:31:27.180 you know,

00:31:27.540 up for these confirmations

00:31:29.020 are the best people

00:31:30.220 who are best suited

00:31:31.000 to be serving the president

00:31:32.600 and his agenda.

00:31:33.580 And I don't know

00:31:34.720 who nominated

00:31:35.540 Jeanette Nushua.

00:31:36.760 I don't know

00:31:37.460 if she only got the position

00:31:38.860 due to nepotism

00:31:39.740 because she happens

00:31:40.640 to be the sister

00:31:41.460 in law of now,

00:31:42.760 you know,

00:31:42.980 the now former,

00:31:43.960 right,

00:31:44.260 former NSC advisor,

00:31:46.280 Michael Waltz,

00:31:47.020 who was just exiled

00:31:48.580 to Siberia

00:31:49.400 when President Trump

00:31:50.360 made him

00:31:51.540 the United Nations

00:31:53.080 ambassador last week.

00:31:54.860 But she is on record

00:31:57.940 supporting vaccinations

00:31:59.720 for COVID,

00:32:01.000 even after there were

00:32:02.740 tons of studies published

00:32:03.800 showing that these vaccines,

00:32:06.380 really DNA modifiers,

00:32:08.000 were causing extreme

00:32:09.580 health ailments.

00:32:10.960 She's on video

00:32:12.400 advocating for the masking

00:32:13.880 of children.

00:32:15.040 OK,

00:32:15.320 it's child abuse.

00:32:16.580 She's on video 0.99

00:32:17.380 entertaining this tranny 1.00

00:32:18.940 delusion with gender 0.65

00:32:20.680 dysphoria in children,

00:32:22.060 essentially supporting

00:32:22.980 the idea that children

00:32:24.060 can be transgender,

00:32:25.040 which is totally

00:32:26.280 oppositional to

00:32:27.340 President Trump's

00:32:28.560 health,

00:32:29.320 public health vision

00:32:30.060 for America

00:32:31.340 and also

00:32:32.120 just conservative values

00:32:34.400 in general,

00:32:35.160 period.

00:32:35.400 She also encouraged

00:32:37.820 and supported

00:32:38.560 Facebook censoring

00:32:39.980 vaccine information

00:32:42.060 during the COVID

00:32:43.960 vaccine mandates

00:32:44.980 in which we saw

00:32:45.960 Facebook censoring

00:32:47.180 people in the

00:32:49.460 Maha movement

00:32:50.160 and in the

00:32:51.200 alternative medicine

00:32:52.960 world when they

00:32:54.140 were promoting

00:32:54.660 things like

00:32:55.240 hydroxychloroquine

00:32:56.400 and ivermectin.

00:32:57.620 And they were saying

00:32:58.280 that this was dangerous

00:32:59.760 to public health

00:33:00.700 and that it needed

00:33:01.240 to be censored

00:33:02.040 for the good

00:33:02.460 of the American people

00:33:03.380 because according

00:33:04.040 to Mark Zuckerberg,

00:33:05.020 we can't make

00:33:05.560 our own decisions

00:33:06.320 as it relates

00:33:07.160 to our bodies.

00:33:08.360 Want to abort a baby? 1.00

00:33:09.760 Sure, no problem.

00:33:10.780 But my body and my choice

00:33:11.840 when it comes to vaccines?

00:33:13.480 Unacceptable,

00:33:14.200 according to these people.

00:33:15.260 And that's what she supported.

00:33:16.680 But through my own investigation,

00:33:19.840 I uncovered that

00:33:20.880 the nominee

00:33:21.860 for Surgeon General

00:33:23.080 is embroiled

00:33:23.960 in active litigation,

00:33:25.280 a malpractice case

00:33:26.280 that suggested

00:33:26.900 that she didn't

00:33:27.960 seem to understand

00:33:28.920 the difference

00:33:29.660 between an infection

00:33:31.000 and a foreign object,

00:33:32.380 which is, you know,

00:33:33.200 kind of just general knowledge.

00:33:35.020 You should know that

00:33:35.700 if you're going to be

00:33:36.140 the Surgeon General.

00:33:37.180 And then, of course,

00:33:37.860 there were other reports

00:33:38.660 that came out earlier

00:33:39.520 in the week, Natalie,

00:33:40.480 that suggested

00:33:41.140 that she lied

00:33:42.080 about her credentials

00:33:43.360 or fabricated

00:33:44.420 some of her credentials

00:33:45.680 to make it seem

00:33:46.520 like she went

00:33:46.980 to an American medical school

00:33:48.260 when she, in fact,

00:33:49.040 went to a foreign medical school.

00:33:50.980 So I think it was just,

00:33:52.720 you know,

00:33:53.420 death by a thousand cuts.

00:33:55.280 And, you know,

00:33:56.080 it seems like the receipts

00:33:57.180 that I published

00:33:58.240 about four days ago

00:33:59.560 seemed to be

00:34:00.380 the final nail

00:34:01.320 in her coffin.

00:34:02.080 So it's great

00:34:03.700 that President Trump

00:34:04.660 is very receptive

00:34:05.500 to this information

00:34:06.500 and that he's taking

00:34:07.720 this additional vetting

00:34:09.080 quite seriously

00:34:10.120 in his decision making.

00:34:11.580 And I'm happy to see

00:34:12.460 that her nomination

00:34:13.240 has been pulled.

00:34:14.180 We really dodged a bullet.

00:34:15.560 She was supposed to go

00:34:16.520 before the Senate tomorrow

00:34:17.620 for her confirmation hearing,

00:34:18.960 and now President Trump

00:34:20.420 has nominated somebody else.

00:34:22.140 So hopefully,

00:34:24.240 you know,

00:34:24.460 it all works out

00:34:25.200 for the good.

00:34:25.920 But Jeanette 0.95

00:34:27.080 was very unpopular

00:34:27.900 with the MAGA base.

00:34:29.100 And, you know,

00:34:29.800 anybody could have done

00:34:30.760 some surface-level vetting

00:34:31.840 to figure that out.

00:34:32.760 But as I said before,

00:34:34.060 it's very concerning, Natalie.

00:34:35.440 There doesn't seem

00:34:36.000 to be any proper vetting

00:34:37.200 or any vetting at all

00:34:38.260 happening in this administration.

00:34:40.240 So hopefully,

00:34:41.020 we can rectify that soon.

00:34:43.480 And, Laura,

00:34:44.160 last question real quick

00:34:45.140 before I let you go.

00:34:47.540 Directionally,

00:34:48.060 the next people

00:34:48.820 that you are looking into,

00:34:50.540 hopefully,

00:34:51.440 lumering,

00:34:52.180 people who are pretending

00:34:52.940 to be pro-Trump in art,

00:34:54.200 can you give our audience,

00:34:55.480 show a little bit of ankle,

00:34:56.420 as Steve would say,

00:34:57.300 on anything that you're

00:34:58.220 looking into right now?

00:34:59.060 Well,

00:35:01.420 I'm looking into

00:35:02.440 a lot of the HHS appointees.

00:35:05.100 You know,

00:35:05.240 when President Trump

00:35:06.000 made his deal

00:35:07.020 with RFK Jr.,

00:35:08.440 the deal was

00:35:09.080 you got to stay

00:35:09.580 in your lane, right?

00:35:10.340 He tried to be friendly

00:35:11.540 about it and joked

00:35:12.460 about it at the rallies.

00:35:13.600 You know,

00:35:13.760 oh, I told him

00:35:14.420 he's got to stay

00:35:14.820 in his lane.

00:35:15.520 It doesn't look like

00:35:16.360 RFK is staying

00:35:17.220 in his lane.

00:35:17.860 And so I'm investigating

00:35:19.240 officials at HHS

00:35:20.600 who have been appointed

00:35:21.580 by Kennedy

00:35:22.380 because it appears

00:35:23.820 that some of these

00:35:24.740 individuals have,

00:35:25.980 you know,

00:35:26.500 radical views.

00:35:27.460 They're Marxists.

00:35:28.360 These are individuals

00:35:29.640 who are climate activists,

00:35:31.620 radical climate activists

00:35:32.800 who seem to be engaged

00:35:34.620 in anti-Trump propaganda

00:35:35.880 while they are still

00:35:37.300 working within

00:35:38.460 the Trump administration.

00:35:39.600 I just broke a story

00:35:40.460 the other day

00:35:41.040 about a woman

00:35:41.600 by the name

00:35:42.640 of Stephanie Speer

00:35:43.620 who was appointed

00:35:44.860 by RFK Jr.

00:35:45.960 to serve as

00:35:46.680 his deputy chief of staff.

00:35:48.640 She's the founder 1.00

00:35:49.260 of a group

00:35:49.760 called EcoWatch.

00:35:50.760 She was RFK Jr.'s 0.51

00:35:52.260 press secretary

00:35:54.040 for his presidential campaign.

00:35:55.600 And Stephanie Speer

00:35:57.420 was the founder

00:35:58.460 and was listed

00:35:59.320 as a CEO

00:35:59.960 for this group EcoWatch

00:36:01.200 which is a climate

00:36:02.000 change activism group.

00:36:03.440 Well, even though

00:36:04.440 she's working at HHS

00:36:05.740 in the Trump administration,

00:36:07.380 EcoWatch the other day

00:36:08.500 took to their Twitter account,

00:36:09.940 X account,

00:36:10.580 oops,

00:36:10.860 just dead named X, 0.97

00:36:12.080 to literally trash

00:36:14.180 the Trump administration

00:36:15.240 and to say

00:36:15.920 that all of his tariffs

00:36:17.020 and everything

00:36:17.560 that he's done

00:36:18.140 has basically put us

00:36:19.900 back two years

00:36:20.600 and that we were better

00:36:21.420 under Joe Biden.

00:36:22.320 And it still shows

00:36:23.640 that she's the CEO

00:36:24.560 and founder of EcoWatch

00:36:26.060 and RFK also works

00:36:27.860 with her on this project.

00:36:29.060 And so that's very concerning.

00:36:31.580 The receipts

00:36:32.280 have been posted online

00:36:33.460 for that investigation as well

00:36:35.260 and I'm going to be looking

00:36:36.380 at other officials at HHS.

00:36:38.540 But unfortunately,

00:36:40.160 you know,

00:36:40.500 look,

00:36:40.740 I know everyone likes

00:36:41.480 to sing kumbaya

00:36:42.260 and pretend like

00:36:43.100 we can all get along

00:36:44.020 and we can all be friends.

00:36:45.240 But if you're not

00:36:46.280 ideologically compatible,

00:36:47.800 eventually you're going to clash.

00:36:49.500 And I don't think

00:36:50.200 that this idea

00:36:51.080 that people can stay

00:36:52.000 in their lane

00:36:52.560 is reasonable.

00:36:53.840 And the receipts show,

00:36:55.100 Natalie,

00:36:55.400 that some of these HHS officials

00:36:57.240 are not staying

00:36:58.360 in their lane

00:36:58.920 and that's going

00:36:59.520 to be a problem

00:37:00.360 if we have people

00:37:01.760 using secret social media accounts

00:37:03.660 to try to subvert Donald Trump

00:37:07.220 and push out

00:37:07.940 anti-Trump propaganda

00:37:08.920 while they're working

00:37:10.040 inside the Trump administration.

00:37:13.020 Well, Laura,

00:37:13.740 I think you probably

00:37:14.360 just caused

00:37:15.000 an emergency meeting

00:37:16.240 to be called at HHS.

00:37:18.140 And on that note,

00:37:18.780 you know,

00:37:18.980 this audience appreciates

00:37:20.120 your work.

00:37:20.940 If people want to follow,

00:37:22.000 you check out

00:37:22.680 everything you're doing,

00:37:23.680 your whole team,

00:37:24.260 where can they go

00:37:24.720 to do that?

00:37:26.520 Yeah,

00:37:26.680 you can follow me

00:37:27.440 on X at Laura Loomer

00:37:28.680 and also on X

00:37:30.000 at Loomer Unleashed.

00:37:31.360 And my website

00:37:32.060 is Loomer.com.

00:37:33.480 I have a show

00:37:34.160 on Rumble

00:37:34.700 every Tuesday

00:37:35.320 and Thursday

00:37:35.840 called Loomer Unleashed

00:37:37.160 9 p.m. Eastern.

00:37:38.720 And also,

00:37:39.600 for people listening

00:37:40.680 who are interested

00:37:41.600 in having their own

00:37:42.780 executive level vetting

00:37:43.980 and opposition research,

00:37:45.160 whether you're a candidate

00:37:46.080 or whether you are

00:37:47.220 a corporate executive

00:37:48.140 or whether you're thinking

00:37:49.540 of running for office,

00:37:51.160 I launched my own

00:37:52.040 opposition research firm

00:37:53.220 called Loomer Strategies.

00:37:54.680 And I think it's really

00:37:55.400 important that,

00:37:56.500 you know,

00:37:56.680 with the midterms coming up

00:37:57.960 that Republicans,

00:37:59.480 consultants,

00:38:00.780 strategists,

00:38:01.560 Republican candidates,

00:38:02.420 I know that a lot

00:38:03.660 of Republican candidates

00:38:04.920 and elected officials

00:38:05.900 watch War Room.

00:38:07.160 They have the best

00:38:07.900 opposition research

00:38:09.120 possible because

00:38:10.140 information is a weapon

00:38:12.400 and it's time

00:38:13.620 to get weaponized.

00:38:15.620 You need to kneecap

00:38:16.660 your political opposition

00:38:17.840 with the best information

00:38:19.040 and that's what

00:38:20.260 I'm trying to do.

00:38:21.200 I'm trying to kneecap

00:38:22.560 all of President Trump's enemies 0.97

00:38:24.420 and all of the saboteurs

00:38:26.120 who are trying to subvert

00:38:27.380 his agenda

00:38:28.260 so that we can protect

00:38:29.380 Donald Trump.

00:38:31.500 It's information warfare.

00:38:33.040 Laura,

00:38:33.300 always an honor to have you on.

00:38:34.320 We'll have you back on soon.

00:38:35.920 Thanks for having me.

00:38:36.760 Really appreciate it.

00:38:39.180 Of course.

00:38:40.140 And I think Steve

00:38:40.880 would call this

00:38:41.520 Murderer's Row.

00:38:42.540 We're now going to go

00:38:43.100 to Mike Davis.

00:38:44.080 Mike,

00:38:44.380 you've got a few minutes.

00:38:45.340 I know the Article 3 project 0.76

00:38:46.520 was celebrating

00:38:47.180 a lot of the judicial

00:38:48.100 nominations from President Trump

00:38:50.360 in his first hundred days.

00:38:51.840 If you want to walk through

00:38:52.560 some of the heavy hitters,

00:38:54.620 the, I guess for once,

00:38:55.760 judicial nominations

00:38:56.680 and nominees

00:38:57.300 that are actually good

00:38:58.380 and not radical activist judges,

00:39:01.000 let's hear it.

00:39:02.580 Yeah,

00:39:02.800 President Trump's biggest

00:39:03.840 and most consequential

00:39:05.260 accomplishment

00:39:06.500 of his first term

00:39:08.440 was the appointment

00:39:10.180 of three justices

00:39:12.360 and the transformation

00:39:13.360 of the federal judiciary

00:39:14.860 to the first constitutionalist

00:39:16.740 majority in 90 years.

00:39:18.680 And, you know,

00:39:19.400 these judges

00:39:20.320 and justices

00:39:21.640 will disappoint us

00:39:22.920 from time to time,

00:39:23.900 but just imagine

00:39:24.760 how bad it would have been

00:39:26.480 if Hillary Clinton

00:39:27.380 replaced

00:39:28.180 the late,

00:39:29.200 great Justice Scalia

00:39:30.520 instead of President Trump.

00:39:32.540 And President Trump

00:39:33.800 is going to build

00:39:35.040 on this

00:39:36.560 first term accomplishment

00:39:38.100 in his second term

00:39:39.580 with even more

00:39:40.760 bold

00:39:41.680 and fearless

00:39:42.400 judges.

00:39:44.280 And the Article 3 project

00:39:45.920 is working

00:39:47.020 very closely

00:39:48.340 with President Trump,

00:39:50.260 White House Chief of Staff

00:39:51.520 Susie Wiles,

00:39:52.600 Dave Warrington

00:39:53.300 of the White House Counsel,

00:39:54.620 Steve Kenney,

00:39:55.820 the Deputy White House Counsel

00:39:57.060 who we've had

00:39:57.700 on the war room,

00:39:59.060 Attorney General Pam Bondi

00:40:00.380 and her team,

00:40:01.440 and they are off

00:40:02.560 to a very strong start

00:40:04.520 with their first batch

00:40:06.000 of judicial nominees.

00:40:07.900 You have Whitney Hermendorfer

00:40:09.600 on a Tennessee-based seat

00:40:12.980 on the Sixth Circuit

00:40:15.000 Court of Appeals.

00:40:16.020 She is a brilliant,

00:40:17.580 brilliant legal mind,

00:40:19.080 a rock-solid constitutionalist.

00:40:22.140 She's clerked 0.95

00:40:22.920 for Justice Alito

00:40:24.060 and two other

00:40:26.060 Supreme Court justices.

00:40:28.480 She has taken on

00:40:31.100 the woke left,

00:40:32.380 transgender ideology.

00:40:33.880 She's been a strong

00:40:34.980 advocate for First Amendment

00:40:37.240 rights for people

00:40:38.720 with Christian beliefs

00:40:40.680 and other conservatives.

00:40:41.700 She's going to be

00:40:42.220 a great addition

00:40:43.780 to the Sixth Circuit.

00:40:45.280 And then President Trump

00:40:46.200 has picked four all-stars

00:40:48.520 for district court seats

00:40:50.720 in the state of Missouri,

00:40:52.440 particularly in the

00:40:54.020 Eastern District of Missouri

00:40:55.300 in St. Louis,

00:40:58.020 which is going to become

00:40:58.980 a litigation hotbed

00:41:00.980 because I think it's like

00:41:02.560 seven of the eight

00:41:03.480 district court judges

00:41:04.320 are now Republican appointed.

00:41:06.840 You have Christian Stevens,

00:41:09.440 Joshua Devine,

00:41:10.940 who worked on the

00:41:11.720 Senate Judiciary Committee

00:41:12.860 and All-Star,

00:41:14.400 Maria Lanahan,

00:41:16.280 Zachary Bluestone.

00:41:18.480 We are off to a very strong start.

00:41:22.160 These are even more

00:41:23.360 bold and fearless judges.

00:41:26.220 These are not your typical

00:41:28.080 Federalist Society cookie-cutter

00:41:30.720 judicial nominees.

00:41:32.900 These are Article III

00:41:34.120 Project-approved

00:41:35.440 judicial nominees,

00:41:36.500 and that's what

00:41:36.980 President Trump wants.

00:41:39.280 I've spoken with him

00:41:41.020 several times about judicial,

00:41:43.120 many, many, many, many times

00:41:44.800 about judicial nominees,

00:41:45.920 and we are delivering

00:41:47.580 for President Trump

00:41:48.760 and the American people

00:41:49.700 with even more bold

00:41:51.500 and fearless judges.

00:41:52.540 This is more important

00:41:53.460 than ever

00:41:54.000 when you see this

00:41:54.860 ongoing lawfare

00:41:56.000 against President Trump.

00:41:58.480 Before the election,

00:41:59.720 they tried to bankrupt him

00:42:01.040 for non-fraud.

00:42:02.360 They tried to take him

00:42:04.000 off the ballot

00:42:04.540 several times

00:42:05.500 unconstitutionally

00:42:06.940 under the 14th Amendment.

00:42:08.640 They tried to throw him

00:42:10.160 in prison four times

00:42:11.480 for life,

00:42:12.560 for non-crimes.

00:42:13.560 They tried to take off his head.

00:42:14.900 And President Trump

00:42:15.760 got a decisive mandate

00:42:18.220 from the American people.

00:42:19.740 And now we have

00:42:20.500 these activist judges

00:42:22.380 around the country,

00:42:23.540 these Obama and Biden radicals

00:42:25.720 around the country

00:42:26.900 who are sabotaging

00:42:28.180 the president.

00:42:29.160 And that's why we need judges

00:42:30.660 like this first slate

00:42:32.520 of judges

00:42:33.040 that President Trump

00:42:34.820 just put up,

00:42:35.520 these bold and fearless judges

00:42:36.900 who are going to follow the law

00:42:38.320 and they're going to make sure

00:42:39.880 that we're following

00:42:41.020 the Constitution

00:42:41.900 and they're not cowed

00:42:43.120 by the left

00:42:44.240 like too many of these

00:42:45.240 Republican-appointed judges

00:42:46.620 have been in the past.

00:42:48.200 More bold and fearless.

00:42:49.300 We want Supreme Court justices

00:42:51.940 in the mold of justice.

00:42:54.400 Judge Eileen Cannon,

00:42:56.240 right,

00:42:56.740 instead of some of these

00:42:57.980 other misfires.

00:42:58.460 I guess you could just say

00:42:59.760 no more Bose-Bergs. 1.00

00:43:01.340 How about that?

00:43:01.880 Mike Davis,

00:43:02.360 we've got to bounce.

00:43:03.280 Give the audience

00:43:03.840 your coordinates,

00:43:04.520 the Article 3 Project.

00:43:05.480 If they want to reach out,

00:43:06.320 where can they go?

00:43:07.500 Article 3project.org.

00:43:09.180 Article 3project.org.

00:43:10.580 You can donate there.

00:43:11.900 Follow us on social media.

00:43:14.020 The War Room Posse

00:43:14.820 superpower take action.

00:43:16.300 And thank you, Natalie.

00:43:18.340 Mike Davis,

00:43:19.080 as always,

00:43:19.580 thank you so much

00:43:20.520 for joining us.

00:43:21.280 War and Posse,

00:43:22.020 don't go anywhere.

00:43:22.960 Not only do I have the 6 p.m.,

00:43:24.240 but we're going to get into

00:43:25.040 maybe some finally good news

00:43:27.060 on the Fauci-Beaglegate front,

00:43:29.820 what the horrible things

00:43:30.840 Democrats are doing to animals.

00:43:32.100 We'll be right back

00:43:32.640 after this short break.

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00:45:02.040 Stephen K. Bannon.

00:45:05.900 Welcome back

00:45:06.780 to The War Room.

00:45:08.160 I think home of all things

00:45:09.640 Anthony Fauci.

00:45:10.480 Typically,

00:45:10.920 we talk about

00:45:11.480 the gain-of-function research,

00:45:12.960 the Wuhan Institute of Virology,

00:45:14.720 but on, I guess,

00:45:15.600 just a basic human decency level.

00:45:18.160 I'm sure you all remember

00:45:19.060 BeagleGate,

00:45:20.040 what was going on here.

00:45:21.240 I also think in Tunisia,

00:45:22.960 in China,

00:45:23.500 the horrible things.

00:45:24.840 They were funding

00:45:25.720 someone who is an expert

00:45:27.260 on all of that.

00:45:28.280 I'm honored to have him on.

00:45:29.300 That is Wayne Pacelli,

00:45:30.720 the former CEO,

00:45:32.280 actually,

00:45:32.720 of the Humane Society.

00:45:33.780 Talk about the big tent

00:45:35.200 that we have here.

00:45:36.460 I wanted to have you on

00:45:37.880 to talk about

00:45:38.660 the Trump administration's

00:45:40.040 moves to cancel

00:45:41.420 so much of these

00:45:42.600 horrible Beagle experiments,

00:45:44.060 but also just more broadly,

00:45:46.000 particularly your organization

00:45:47.420 has kind of been tracking

00:45:48.360 how the Trump administration

00:45:49.960 really has been revolutionary

00:45:51.200 in terms of

00:45:52.140 weeding out,

00:45:52.800 cutting out animal testing,

00:45:54.000 at least here in the United States.

00:45:56.220 Yeah, Natalie,

00:45:57.140 I'm glad to be with you

00:45:58.080 and your audience.

00:45:59.280 I'm president of

00:45:59.840 Animal Wellness Action.

00:46:01.740 And I think

00:46:02.860 what's happened recently

00:46:04.320 in the month of April

00:46:05.600 with Jay Bhattacharya,

00:46:07.800 the appointee to direct

00:46:09.120 the National Institutes of Health,

00:46:10.880 and then Dr. Marty McCary

00:46:12.420 to be commissioner of FDA,

00:46:14.060 is the biggest gain

00:46:15.580 on animal testing

00:46:16.640 in the 150-year history

00:46:19.340 of animal testing

00:46:20.760 and vivisection.

00:46:22.400 And so much credit

00:46:23.680 is due to

00:46:24.640 Robert F. Kennedy Jr.,

00:46:26.960 obviously President Trump.

00:46:28.920 I've been working

00:46:29.680 with Laura Trump

00:46:30.720 on this issue for years.

00:46:32.220 She and I were

00:46:32.840 calling lawmakers

00:46:34.140 with the FDA Modernization Act

00:46:37.280 that Rand Paul led

00:46:38.560 in the Senate.

00:46:39.280 Rand Paul did a fantastic job

00:46:41.000 leading this effort.

00:46:41.680 We had a government mandate.

00:46:44.580 The federal government

00:46:45.220 was telling pharmaceutical companies

00:46:46.960 that the only way

00:46:48.320 they could screen new drugs,

00:46:50.360 a new cancer drug,

00:46:51.340 a heart drug,

00:46:51.940 a pain drug,

00:46:52.760 a bone drug,

00:46:54.200 was to do extensive

00:46:55.640 multi-year testing

00:46:56.680 on animals.

00:46:57.700 We showed that the data

00:46:59.120 was conclusive

00:47:00.460 in the wrong direction

00:47:01.800 for the scientists

00:47:02.940 who were advocating for this.

00:47:04.240 in 9 of 10 cases

00:47:06.500 when drugs pass muster

00:47:08.080 in animal tests

00:47:09.440 with beagles,

00:47:10.760 primates,

00:47:11.260 and other animals,

00:47:12.140 it would fail

00:47:13.040 in human clinical trials.

00:47:14.720 What kind of success rate

00:47:16.160 is this

00:47:16.680 if it's a 90% failure rate,

00:47:19.540 10% success rate?

00:47:21.340 So we made the case,

00:47:22.420 Rand Paul led the bill

00:47:23.680 to eliminate

00:47:24.480 the animal testing mandate.

00:47:25.740 And the backdrop

00:47:26.400 of all this

00:47:27.140 was NIH

00:47:27.820 and its different agencies

00:47:30.420 supporting these

00:47:31.340 ghastly beagle experiments.

00:47:33.180 I'll tell you,

00:47:34.200 as a beagle owner

00:47:35.380 and lover,

00:47:36.500 these animals

00:47:37.000 are so trusting,

00:47:38.660 they are so gentle,

00:47:40.200 and that's the reason

00:47:41.100 that they're used

00:47:41.700 in these labs

00:47:42.280 to do these

00:47:42.720 diabolical tests on them.

00:47:45.800 But McCary was approved

00:47:48.220 or confirmed by the Senate

00:47:49.440 on April 1st.

00:47:50.780 On April 10th,

00:47:51.840 his first public announcement

00:47:53.100 was to say

00:47:54.020 we're getting out

00:47:54.800 of this entire business.

00:47:56.100 We're getting out

00:47:56.840 of animal testing,

00:47:57.700 which was a 1930s

00:47:58.940 Depression-era strategy,

00:48:00.700 and we're going into

00:48:02.000 this new,

00:48:02.920 21st century

00:48:04.160 set of human-relevant

00:48:06.060 methods of screening drugs.

00:48:08.380 And then just two weeks later,

00:48:10.000 Jay Bhattacharya,

00:48:11.060 leading NIH,

00:48:11.840 the biggest grantor

00:48:12.980 of biomedical research

00:48:14.180 in the world,

00:48:14.960 said they're going to follow.

00:48:16.180 So hats off

00:48:17.520 to President Trump,

00:48:19.000 to Laura Trump

00:48:19.860 for really being

00:48:20.800 an incredible advocate,

00:48:22.720 Rand Paul,

00:48:23.840 so many other lawmakers,

00:48:25.020 Buddy Carter of Georgia

00:48:26.060 has been leading

00:48:26.800 on the House side on this.

00:48:28.840 It's been an incredible effort.

00:48:30.180 We have a new dawn

00:48:31.200 when it comes to

00:48:31.980 beagle protection

00:48:32.740 in the United States,

00:48:33.500 and it's only because

00:48:35.100 of the change

00:48:35.860 in the administration,

00:48:36.660 because the Biden team

00:48:38.340 was stonewalling 1.00

00:48:39.400 and blocking 0.52

00:48:39.860 even after we passed

00:48:41.540 the FDA Modernization Act

00:48:42.920 to eliminate

00:48:43.680 the animal testing mandate

00:48:44.960 that had been in place

00:48:45.620 for 84 years.

00:48:47.320 And just give me

00:48:49.520 a few minutes

00:48:50.040 a little bit

00:48:50.460 on your organization,

00:48:51.880 but particularly,

00:48:53.080 I think there's

00:48:53.560 an even more nefarious side

00:48:54.920 to the animal testing

00:48:56.020 or experiments,

00:48:56.700 which we saw go on

00:48:57.820 in Wuhan, right,

00:48:58.600 with the transgenic mice,

00:48:59.960 the sort of gain-of-function

00:49:00.980 experimentation.

00:49:02.700 Obviously,

00:49:03.000 the Trump administration

00:49:03.720 has made great strides,

00:49:05.640 but where would you say

00:49:06.460 they, you know,

00:49:07.160 in conjunction with Congress,

00:49:09.060 what do they have left

00:49:10.160 to do to, you think,

00:49:11.120 really, you know,

00:49:11.840 seal the deal

00:49:12.340 on this issue?

00:49:13.980 Well, we need to,

00:49:15.000 there's a lot more to do,

00:49:16.040 because these were vision statements

00:49:17.580 and they were as good

00:49:18.940 as they could have been.

00:49:19.980 But now we need to shut down

00:49:21.360 seven national regional

00:49:22.720 primate centers

00:49:23.980 that have tens of thousands

00:49:25.000 of primates

00:49:25.680 that are destined

00:49:26.800 for laboratories

00:49:28.060 unless we shut down

00:49:29.940 those efforts.

00:49:30.480 This should be a top priority

00:49:31.500 for the Doge

00:49:32.260 to shut down

00:49:33.440 these national primate

00:49:34.340 research centers.

00:49:35.420 We have two massive

00:49:36.580 private beagle

00:49:39.000 breeding colonies

00:49:40.080 to feed those beagles 1.00

00:49:41.480 into the lab system.

00:49:42.880 There's one in upstate New York

00:49:43.900 that has 20,000 beagles,

00:49:45.660 like on a factory farm.

00:49:47.280 And then there's another one

00:49:48.100 in Wisconsin

00:49:48.600 with about 3,000 or 4,000 beagles.

00:49:50.860 So we've got to shut down

00:49:51.900 the regional primate centers.

00:49:53.580 We've got to,

00:49:54.320 if we're doing grant making,

00:49:55.660 and obviously grant making

00:49:56.760 in many areas

00:49:58.180 of medical research

00:49:59.280 and drug screening

00:50:00.400 is important,

00:50:01.800 we've got to make sure

00:50:02.420 the animals are not involved

00:50:03.520 because they're just not working

00:50:05.560 as a proxy for humans.

00:50:07.060 They're not forecasting

00:50:08.080 the human reaction to drugs.

00:50:10.120 What we have

00:50:10.920 are organs on a chip,

00:50:12.540 organoids,

00:50:13.440 artificial intelligence,

00:50:14.440 all of these 21st century methods

00:50:16.660 to be more accurate,

00:50:18.320 more reliable.

00:50:19.200 One reason we have

00:50:19.920 enormously high drug prices

00:50:21.940 is because of all

00:50:22.880 this animal testing.

00:50:24.180 It jacks up the pricing

00:50:25.740 for the drugs

00:50:27.720 because it takes 10 to 15 years

00:50:29.300 for a drug to get to market.

00:50:30.860 It's $2.2 billion in costs,

00:50:33.740 partly because of the government mandate

00:50:35.240 on the pharmaceuticals.

00:50:36.380 And then it fails

00:50:37.880 nine of 10 times.

00:50:38.920 So every drug

00:50:39.860 that passes muster

00:50:41.100 has to cover

00:50:41.880 that $2.2 billion,

00:50:43.380 but then also

00:50:44.200 the nine failures.

00:50:45.700 And if it's $2 billion

00:50:46.520 for each one,

00:50:47.100 that's $22 billion.

00:50:48.460 That means

00:50:48.920 we have to go

00:50:49.680 for the blockbuster drugs

00:50:50.820 when you have 7,000 diseases

00:50:52.680 afflicting people.

00:50:53.800 We're not able

00:50:54.600 to get at the diseases

00:50:56.000 that are affecting

00:50:56.840 millions and millions

00:50:58.220 of Americans.

00:51:00.260 And Wayne,

00:51:00.900 we're coming up

00:51:01.380 against the end of the show.

00:51:02.240 We'll definitely

00:51:02.560 have you back on.

00:51:03.380 In the meantime,

00:51:03.880 if people want to check out

00:51:04.920 your organization,

00:51:05.800 keep up to date with you,

00:51:06.800 where can they go

00:51:07.360 to do that?

00:51:09.980 AnimalWellnessAction.org.

00:51:12.140 And we're really grateful.

00:51:13.480 We just exposed

00:51:14.800 the terrible

00:51:15.460 Native American

00:51:16.600 animal sacrifice plan.

00:51:19.060 They're smothering eagles

00:51:20.440 to sacrifice these eagles

00:51:22.560 to the spiritual guides there.

00:51:25.260 So please join us.

00:51:27.220 Get involved.

00:51:28.000 We're fighting animal cruelty,

00:51:29.600 which is a vice

00:51:30.440 in our society.

00:51:31.360 Animal cruelty

00:51:31.880 is tied to other abuses,

00:51:33.820 criminality, 0.70

00:51:34.860 a loss of empathy

00:51:35.760 for others.

00:51:36.320 And again,

00:51:37.380 I want to thank

00:51:38.140 the leadership

00:51:39.340 at NIH and FDA

00:51:40.860 and the president

00:51:42.440 and also Bobby Kennedy

00:51:44.540 for this incredible

00:51:45.600 turnaround on animal testing.

00:51:48.600 Thank you so much

00:51:49.520 for joining us, Wayne.

00:51:50.340 Have a good one.

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Episode 446： Trump’s Medicaid Promise Under Siege By RINO’s, President Trump Selects New Surgeon General

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