Bannon's War Room - May 08, 2025


Episode 446: Trump’s Medicaid Promise Under Siege By RINO’s, President Trump Selects New Surgeon General


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

168.7623

Word Count

9,346

Sentence Count

580

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

26


Summary

ICE raids restaurants across Washington, D.C. in an attempt to enforce immigration law, and the media reacts in droves. Stephen K. Broussard, Natalie Portman, and Warren Posse join the show to discuss the latest ICE raids, and why they think it s a good idea. Plus, a look at how the New Republic is using illegal immigrants as scapegoats.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Which, frankly, I think makes their MAGA subversion escapades just all the worse.
00:00:06.040 Excellent assessment. Take over the show. Natalie, have a great couple hours. Talk to you again soon.
00:00:12.420 Eric Bolling, thank you so much. And Warren Posse, thank you for hanging with me today, Wednesday, May 7th, in the year of our Lord, 2025.
00:00:21.060 We have a probably enraging cold open that I want to roll for you.
00:00:24.340 I'll put a trigger warning. If you care about borders and sovereignty, you're probably not going to like this one very much. Let's roll it.
00:00:30.000 New surveillance videos showing immigration enforcement agents talking to management at the Millie's restaurant on Massachusetts Avenue Tuesday morning.
00:00:38.560 Millie's owner says agents asked to see I-9 forms.
00:00:41.940 It's very concerning. The employees are very scared. We're worried about some of them not coming back to work.
00:00:51.380 And just a general panic amongst the people that it affects.
00:00:56.440 Nearly a dozen law enforcement and immigration officials wearing DHS uniforms also walking into El Centro Restaurant in Georgetown.
00:01:05.740 Chef Jeff's Restaurant on New Mexico Avenue Northwest.
00:01:09.640 And Ghost Burger on 9th Street Northwest.
00:01:12.300 Again, wanting I-9 forms, which are employment verification forms used to make sure if employees are legally allowed to work in the United States.
00:01:20.500 This video showing what appears to be someone taken into custody.
00:01:25.380 D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser saying D.C. police are not involved in the crackdown.
00:01:30.060 I have heard those reports. I've been getting them all morning. I am disturbed by them.
00:01:35.280 It appears that ICE is at restaurants or even in neighborhoods.
00:01:41.100 And it doesn't look like they're targeting criminals.
00:01:43.660 And so it is disrupting.
00:01:46.920 Immigration support organizations want to remind workers that they have a right to remain silent, don't sign any documents, and call an immigration attorney.
00:01:58.100 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:02:03.360 Pray for our enemies.
00:02:05.280 Because we're going medieval on these people.
00:02:07.220 You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:02:12.860 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:02:14.820 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:02:16.240 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:02:18.880 It's going to happen.
00:02:20.160 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:02:23.540 Mega media.
00:02:24.900 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:02:30.300 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:02:33.460 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:02:40.380 War Room.
00:02:41.280 Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
00:02:49.420 You're in the War Room here in Washington, D.C., where I guess something good, something pro-sovereignty, and no, no caveat for Ukraine necessary,
00:02:59.720 this time around happened for once in this city, and we're going to drill down on that ice raid that we saw go down.
00:03:08.220 A lot of interesting characters involved in that one, but frankly, because I think it is a sinisterly accurate microcosm
00:03:16.760 for what the ruling class of this country has done to what is supposedly their own country,
00:03:23.480 what they've done to us through the vertical of immigration, which, to summarize, maybe I'd quote Andrew Breitbart and say,
00:03:30.680 war, but of all forms, economic, cultural, kinetic, take your pick.
00:03:36.160 But last night, ICE agents raided a slew of D.C. restaurants.
00:03:42.400 I'm going to single out two of them.
00:03:44.480 I'm proud to say that I've never eaten there, nor will I.
00:03:48.620 But one of them, it gets really interesting.
00:03:50.920 It goes by the name of Chef Jeff's, which is a small chain of restaurants owned by the husband of, catch this,
00:03:59.700 CBS's Nora O'Donnell.
00:04:02.940 I'll run that again for you.
00:04:04.360 The spouse of someone who has spent, what, decades on air, a taxpayer somehow subsidized, I'm sure,
00:04:12.280 propaganda mill telling you that you're a nativist and a racist for daring to question what is the great replacement theory.
00:04:20.660 Her husband is busy, I guess at least per ICE or DHS, probably, allegedly, hiring illegal aliens.
00:04:28.720 And my personal favorite part of this story is the way that the new republic decided to spin it.
00:04:35.640 Quote, is Trump now using ICE to take revenge on CBS?
00:04:40.980 Let that sink in.
00:04:44.300 An establishment is potentially caught using legal alien labor.
00:04:49.100 And the left-wing media's defense of it is that that's somehow President Trump weaponizing
00:04:56.560 immigration and customs enforcement to go after, frankly, a news outlet that probably deserves it.
00:05:03.740 But I digress on that point.
00:05:05.780 I've probably seen no better example of what we call it in the media,
00:05:09.300 DARVO, the deny, attack, and reverse victim and offender.
00:05:13.800 However, sorry, new republic, it's not the restaurants or the illegal aliens that are the victims.
00:05:19.820 That's victim blaming.
00:05:20.980 It's the American people and the American citizens who I'm sure would have loved to have had those jobs
00:05:25.940 or at least, at the very least, not had their wages depressed by the scam, the racket, and the fraud
00:05:31.740 that is illegal immigration.
00:05:34.820 And then it gets even better because the other restaurant that they targeted,
00:05:39.700 Jaleo, I think that's how you pronounce it, like I said, I've never been,
00:05:43.800 I don't really think the food is probably all that good.
00:05:46.860 I don't know about you guys.
00:05:47.740 I guess I like my cuisine prepared by citizens and not illegal aliens, call it an America first palette.
00:05:54.520 But this is a restaurant by Jose Andres, who not only was he recently bestowed the,
00:06:01.460 what was it, Presidential Medal of Freedom by Joe Biden,
00:06:04.760 but in 2022, he was appointed as Joe Biden's co-chair of the President's Council on Sports, Fitness, and Nutrition.
00:06:15.620 But here's where it gets really good, because President Obama actually made him the ambassador
00:06:21.680 for citizenship and naturalization.
00:06:25.020 Now, I would say that's quite ironic that his restaurant's getting raided for hiring illegal aliens,
00:06:33.420 but I think that's maybe just the self-fulfilling prophecy that is the way that elites have always viewed
00:06:39.700 citizenship, naturalization, immigration, and sovereignty,
00:06:43.720 which is, I guess, a corporate-subsidized or business-subsidized complete and utter destruction
00:06:49.880 of the American working class.
00:06:52.180 So, I guess, Nora O'Donnell could not just lie to you every night on TV,
00:06:55.720 but her husband can have better profit margins at his restaurant
00:06:59.360 at the expense of your wages,
00:07:01.700 so he can hire illegal aliens from, I guess, Venezuela.
00:07:05.400 And speaking of Venezuela, this now gets very interesting,
00:07:10.920 and it's going to run all the way back to, you guessed it, Mark Zuckerberg.
00:07:15.940 But some of the groups that actually,
00:07:18.640 I guess we can start the clock, because we're going to need an investigation on this as well,
00:07:23.940 but one of the groups that actually had advanced notice of these raids happening
00:07:28.980 is a group, a very radical group at that, by the name of Casa Maryland.
00:07:32.740 Now, we had exposed, I believe, last month on this show
00:07:36.620 that this organization has received at least $250,000 worth of funding
00:07:42.320 from Forward U.S., which is the group that Mark Zuckerberg co-founded,
00:07:47.220 one of the largest pro-open borders advocacy organizations that exists
00:07:51.420 on the left and the right.
00:07:54.120 But let's read the quote that they put out to their network of people
00:07:57.160 to try to avoid deportations.
00:07:58.920 Quote,
00:07:59.200 So I think DHS maybe needs to get to the bottom of who's leaking.
00:08:17.080 There, I fully endorse the use of polygraphs on that one.
00:08:22.220 But what's so interesting, too,
00:08:24.000 you want to talk about the subversion of this country from start to finish,
00:08:27.580 from the border all the way to the interior of this country.
00:08:31.040 Casa Maryland has also received millions of dollars
00:08:34.320 from Venezuelan government-owned companies such as Citgo Petroleum.
00:08:39.760 So let that sink in.
00:08:44.140 The Venezuelan government is funding organizations that are preemptively letting illegal aliens know
00:08:49.980 that they may be deported by President Trump's ICE.
00:08:52.780 And I know we always say that we're on both sides of the trade when it comes to Middle East wars
00:08:59.080 or what's going on in Ukraine,
00:09:00.300 but this even gets more interesting because Casa Maryland,
00:09:03.740 again, the group at the tip of the spear trying to avoid these illegals from getting deported,
00:09:08.280 well, they also receive millions of dollars in federal subsidies and contracts and grants.
00:09:13.360 Now, the funding is very dark money, is very clandestine, shall we say,
00:09:18.900 but certain reporting, even from the Washington Post all the way back in 2011,
00:09:23.000 noted that nearly half of their $6 million budget comes from local, state, and federal appropriations,
00:09:28.800 and all the way through 2017, they've received at least a million dollars from the DOJ and the Department of Labor.
00:09:38.220 And to make this whole story, I think, even more concerning,
00:09:41.760 and I'm going to use the word that I'm pretty sure Nora O'Donnell has probably told me
00:09:45.340 that I'm not allowed to use, and that's called the Enemy Within.
00:09:49.800 There's another group called the, get ready for this one,
00:09:52.900 Migrant Solidarity Mutual Aid Network.
00:09:56.240 That's a mouthful, but I'll cut through that.
00:09:58.460 It's basically, again, helping illegal aliens avoid deportation.
00:10:01.920 And you want to know how they conduct their fundraising operations?
00:10:06.640 They use a little platform that you've probably heard of called ActBlue.
00:10:11.760 It's quite interesting, right?
00:10:14.080 The same organization that's, what, busy taking in foreign cash and smurfing donations
00:10:19.160 from American citizens to fund Democratic candidates,
00:10:22.660 and suddenly we have a very, very well-financed open border invasion.
00:10:26.400 I would humbly suggest that the DOJ look into that as well.
00:10:33.080 And I think the logical question to all this would be, well, where are the Republicans?
00:10:38.600 And I think you guys are the smartest audience that exists in all of this wonderful new media
00:10:43.880 sphere that we inhabit.
00:10:45.100 And you would know that they're probably busy trying to sabotage President Trump's agenda.
00:10:49.340 I'm looking at you, Tom Tillis, when it comes to Ed Martin.
00:10:52.460 But someone who, I guess, really just has a penchant for getting it wrong and wrong and wrong,
00:10:57.920 or I guess maybe in his weird donor-funded worldview, getting it right on illegal immigration,
00:11:02.860 and that's none other than Senator Lankford.
00:11:04.960 While this raid was going down, let's see what he was talking about,
00:11:07.860 why it's so important for due process to be had by illegal aliens in the United States.
00:11:12.460 What's been confusing on this is some people see due process like as an American citizen.
00:11:18.440 That's a right to a jury trial.
00:11:20.140 That's all those different things.
00:11:21.060 That's not true for due process for someone who's not a citizen in the United States.
00:11:25.320 It's a different process.
00:11:26.480 It's often just literally what people call an immigration judge
00:11:29.760 is not a typical federal judge or a state judge.
00:11:32.840 This is someone that's in the bureaucracy that their task for DHS is that task on it.
00:11:38.140 So they're a government employee career that's an immigration judge.
00:11:41.640 So it's a very different process for it.
00:11:44.020 But yes, there's a need to be able to give an opportunity for someone to be able to make an argument
00:11:47.760 before they're removed in the country.
00:11:50.740 Now, Senator Lankford, I know the phrase due process is apparently 50% of Washington, D.C.'s vocabulary right now.
00:11:58.380 But it's quite interesting to me because the same people who are now apoplectic
00:12:02.200 and melting down over due process for, I don't know, convicted rapists, illegal aliens,
00:12:06.680 yet where were you guys on calling for due process for, I don't know,
00:12:10.340 how many millions of Americans who were censored from every big tech platform,
00:12:15.580 government-coordinated, might I add?
00:12:18.820 I would agree.
00:12:19.760 America is in need of due process for people like, I don't know, the Jan Sixers,
00:12:23.560 people like Stephen K. Bannon,
00:12:25.080 people who protested outside abortion clinics and prayed the rosary.
00:12:28.560 Yeah, they probably need some due process.
00:12:30.900 As far as I'm concerned, all legal aliens need is processing.
00:12:34.100 It's sort of like to me when you hear them euphemize, what is it, you know,
00:12:39.380 the mutilation of young children, right?
00:12:41.580 It's not gender-affirming care, right?
00:12:44.240 That's the sort of whitewashed PR term that they use to make it more salient among the masses.
00:12:48.740 Yeah, due process is what?
00:12:50.400 Essentially, I guess, just the whitewashing euphemism for saying,
00:12:54.160 hey, I don't think we're allowed to deport a bunch of people who essentially invaded this country.
00:12:58.520 Last time I checked, have you ever heard these people call for, I don't know,
00:13:03.760 due process for Ukrainians to kill Russians?
00:13:06.600 Due process for Russians?
00:13:09.080 No, because to them, that's an invasion.
00:13:11.600 So, you know, whatever, do what you want.
00:13:13.360 But what happened to this country under Joe Biden, apparently, is not as bad.
00:13:17.300 It didn't reach the level of invasion.
00:13:19.500 So they now are, I guess, bestowed due process.
00:13:22.760 From countries where I'd love to see if the rule of law even exists
00:13:25.860 in a bunch of these third-world countries that these people are coming from,
00:13:28.980 something tells me it doesn't.
00:13:30.800 And I guess what?
00:13:31.460 Speaking of the rule of law,
00:13:32.960 that's apparently the other phrase that occupies the other 50% of their vocabulary.
00:13:37.320 Yeah, I'm going to push back on that at face value.
00:13:39.820 Rule of law, really?
00:13:40.800 You think that exists in this country?
00:13:42.860 Rule of law means what?
00:13:44.120 You get a trial with Judge Mershon as your judge,
00:13:46.920 whose daughter's going to be fundraising
00:13:48.760 off of your motivated political persecutions against President Trump,
00:13:52.960 or, I don't know, conveniently how Judge Boesberg seems to keep getting
00:13:56.060 every single case that's against President Trump.
00:13:59.020 That's what rule of law is to you.
00:14:02.000 It is all performative.
00:14:04.900 The R word and the D word, due process and rule of law.
00:14:08.280 And by the way, these Republicans on the House side, too, they're equally bad.
00:14:12.440 They decided this week to cancel the vote that would have stripped the funding
00:14:15.520 that Doge found from USAID, I think we're talking upwards of $9 billion,
00:14:19.200 in addition to PBS and NPR.
00:14:26.740 These are not serious people.
00:14:29.140 It's purely performative.
00:14:31.840 And guys, I know you watch this show.
00:14:33.480 It's insulting to our intelligence.
00:14:37.240 We'll take a little due process on you guys
00:14:40.080 and make sure that you're actually implementing the MAGA agenda
00:14:42.440 because as far as I've seen, even if you started the clock just,
00:14:45.580 I don't know, this morning,
00:14:46.560 there's a lot of evidence that you guys aren't.
00:14:49.360 We've got a packed show.
00:14:50.520 Laura Loomer, Mike Davis, so much more.
00:14:53.240 Make sure you hang around.
00:14:54.900 Explosive scoops, as you could probably guess, from Laura Loomer.
00:14:57.900 We'll be right back after this break.
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00:16:56.880 Someone, though, who I think is equally powerful
00:16:58.920 at holding these Republican traitors
00:17:01.160 and, of course, the Democrat traitors,
00:17:03.520 I guess, equal opportunity offenders there,
00:17:05.840 to account is none other than Laura Loomer,
00:17:08.000 who I'm honored to be joined by.
00:17:10.080 I want to read you a headline from The Bulwark,
00:17:12.300 which I don't typically unironically quote from,
00:17:15.020 but I like it today.
00:17:16.060 Laura Loomer just called the GOP's bluff
00:17:18.120 on Medicaid cuts.
00:17:19.460 This audience knows that we've been
00:17:20.920 really, I think, duking it out
00:17:22.680 with some of the more rhino establishment wings
00:17:25.180 of the Republican Party
00:17:26.300 over these Medicaid cuts.
00:17:27.760 You have a really groundbreaking scoop,
00:17:29.640 which when I first texted you,
00:17:31.340 it was just percolating.
00:17:32.640 Now it seems like the man that you,
00:17:34.160 shall we say,
00:17:34.840 loomered is already adjusting,
00:17:36.660 deleting some tweets.
00:17:37.500 If you want to walk the audience through
00:17:38.820 this story sort of from start to finish,
00:17:41.120 and then we can talk through
00:17:43.060 maybe where you think
00:17:43.820 these Medicaid cuts are going to end up.
00:17:47.220 Yeah, so thanks for having me on.
00:17:48.800 Look, a lot of the discussion
00:17:50.960 as it relates to the big, beautiful bill
00:17:54.960 over the last couple of weeks
00:17:56.580 and a lot of these talking points
00:17:58.680 that are being spewed by the radical left
00:18:01.100 as it relates to their strategy
00:18:02.920 to undermine President Trump
00:18:05.320 and somehow find a footing
00:18:07.200 to regain a sense of power
00:18:09.460 as we head into the midterms in 2026
00:18:12.180 has revolved around this false idea
00:18:14.840 that President Trump
00:18:15.760 is going to be cutting Medicaid.
00:18:17.460 President Trump has doubled down
00:18:19.860 on his commitment to protecting Medicaid
00:18:22.040 countless times over and over again.
00:18:24.460 And yet every single time,
00:18:25.940 either myself or Loomer Unleashed staff
00:18:28.360 are out in the field in Washington, D.C.
00:18:30.580 or around the country
00:18:31.700 documenting all of these radical
00:18:33.740 left Democrat protests
00:18:35.120 that we're seeing pop up,
00:18:36.720 they all have signs that say
00:18:37.980 protect Medicaid
00:18:38.840 or Donald Trump and Elon Musk
00:18:40.440 are going to be cutting Medicaid.
00:18:42.480 And one of the individuals
00:18:44.300 who is going around Washington, D.C.
00:18:46.960 trying to encourage Republicans
00:18:48.720 to cut Medicaid
00:18:49.760 is an individual
00:18:50.620 by the name of Brian Blaze.
00:18:52.480 We can go ahead
00:18:52.880 and get my tweet pulled up
00:18:53.880 if you want
00:18:54.300 and people can see this for themselves
00:18:55.620 because I like to show the receipts,
00:18:57.660 you know,
00:18:57.900 and all the receipts
00:18:58.640 are underneath my tweet.
00:19:00.060 But it says that
00:19:01.300 Trump's Medicaid promise
00:19:03.360 is under siege
00:19:04.120 by rhino saboteurs
00:19:05.080 like Paragon Health CEO
00:19:06.320 Brian Blaze.
00:19:07.120 And he's funded by the Kochs
00:19:10.300 and he's a never-Trumper
00:19:11.660 according to his previous
00:19:13.880 social media tweets
00:19:15.200 that I've uncovered,
00:19:16.220 obviously trying to masquerade
00:19:18.180 as a MAGA loyalist,
00:19:19.680 which is what all of these
00:19:20.660 subversive creatures try to do.
00:19:23.400 And this is a really dangerous game
00:19:25.400 that he's playing,
00:19:26.400 going around trying to create
00:19:28.760 this sort of playbook,
00:19:30.320 authoring letters and pamphlets
00:19:33.600 for congressional Republicans.
00:19:35.980 There was a report
00:19:36.960 that came out on May 4th
00:19:38.740 that even said
00:19:39.340 Koch-funded group
00:19:40.280 authored House GOP letter
00:19:41.620 demanding Medicaid cuts.
00:19:43.300 And so he's trying to undermine
00:19:45.320 President Trump's agenda.
00:19:46.920 I don't know who this guy
00:19:47.840 thinks he is.
00:19:48.560 He, I guess,
00:19:49.460 worked within the Trump administration
00:19:50.940 at some point.
00:19:52.000 And so he thinks that
00:19:52.940 that gives him a license
00:19:53.940 to call himself a Trump ally.
00:19:56.480 Little does he know
00:19:57.180 that some of the worst offenders
00:19:59.700 when it comes to never-Trumpers
00:20:01.620 and saboteurs
00:20:02.460 and people that like to attack
00:20:04.580 and subvert and malign
00:20:05.940 Donald Trump
00:20:06.420 and his administration
00:20:07.400 and his America First agenda
00:20:08.980 are people who worked
00:20:10.620 within the Trump administration.
00:20:12.400 Some of these individuals
00:20:13.260 are still there, unfortunately,
00:20:15.260 as I have uncovered
00:20:16.300 over the last several months
00:20:17.480 through my White House
00:20:18.460 vetting crisis series.
00:20:20.180 And so, Natalie,
00:20:21.120 this guy now is crying
00:20:23.000 and trying to go back in time
00:20:24.580 and delete a lot of his tweets.
00:20:26.360 And I guess I caused him
00:20:27.760 to have a full-fledged meltdown
00:20:29.140 because he's been taking
00:20:30.080 to the Internet,
00:20:30.920 attacking House Republicans,
00:20:32.800 congressional leadership,
00:20:33.720 and the GOP saying
00:20:35.560 that if they don't succeed
00:20:37.120 in cutting Medicaid,
00:20:39.000 then they are just
00:20:39.780 a bunch of failures.
00:20:40.980 And you can see there
00:20:42.060 on the screen,
00:20:42.620 it says this is why
00:20:43.360 we can't have Trump
00:20:44.360 entitlement reform
00:20:45.280 as the most important issue.
00:20:47.240 So, clearly, Brian
00:20:49.300 and I have different
00:20:50.380 understandings
00:20:51.160 of what it means
00:20:51.840 to be a Trump loyalist
00:20:53.220 because to be a Trump loyalist
00:20:54.600 means you've never
00:20:55.400 crossed Donald Trump.
00:20:57.040 You've never attacked
00:20:57.880 Donald Trump
00:20:58.440 in terms of being against him
00:20:59.940 as a candidate
00:21:01.840 for president
00:21:02.600 and I just showed you
00:21:03.620 the receipts.
00:21:04.340 He clearly was opposed
00:21:05.480 to Trump.
00:21:06.000 He said,
00:21:06.600 we can never have Trump.
00:21:08.160 So, I don't know
00:21:08.940 where this guy
00:21:09.460 is getting the term
00:21:10.200 MAGA loyalist from
00:21:11.120 because he's not
00:21:11.920 a MAGA loyalist.
00:21:12.860 I'm a MAGA loyalist.
00:21:14.100 Brian Blaze,
00:21:14.760 not so much.
00:21:16.940 I'm curious.
00:21:17.780 There was a quote
00:21:18.480 that I think
00:21:18.940 is quite interesting
00:21:19.660 from you.
00:21:20.220 We know Medicaid cuts
00:21:21.300 would be a death wish
00:21:22.220 during the midterms.
00:21:23.140 We obviously believe that.
00:21:24.720 Here in the war room,
00:21:25.840 I'm curious when you try
00:21:26.880 to understand
00:21:27.440 the motivations,
00:21:28.360 obviously,
00:21:28.840 the Koch network,
00:21:29.900 you know,
00:21:30.040 this guy is,
00:21:30.720 to use a phrase,
00:21:31.680 a listless vessel
00:21:32.460 for their ambitions,
00:21:33.520 their aspirations.
00:21:34.820 But do you think
00:21:35.360 that this is something
00:21:36.080 that is contained
00:21:36.940 solely to the issue
00:21:38.200 of Medicaid cuts?
00:21:39.640 In other words,
00:21:40.120 it's, you know,
00:21:40.740 healthcare apparatus,
00:21:41.880 big pharma,
00:21:42.340 all of those people
00:21:43.040 just wanting to have
00:21:43.820 their payday.
00:21:44.560 Or do you think
00:21:45.300 that this is something
00:21:45.980 more nefarious
00:21:46.880 in terms of kneecapping
00:21:48.020 and sabotaging
00:21:49.060 President Trump's momentum
00:21:50.580 barreling into 2026,
00:21:52.780 potentially leading,
00:21:53.840 you know,
00:21:54.180 to him being impeached
00:21:55.160 if we lose the House?
00:21:56.180 This isn't just,
00:21:59.500 you know,
00:22:00.280 designated to the issue
00:22:01.740 of Medicaid
00:22:02.340 or healthcare,
00:22:03.680 Natalie.
00:22:04.220 I've been talking about
00:22:05.480 what I've coined
00:22:06.100 as the Koch coup.
00:22:07.460 And I've been talking
00:22:08.140 about this for several
00:22:09.240 months now
00:22:09.920 as I've been watching
00:22:11.240 the subversive nature
00:22:12.480 of some of the appointees
00:22:14.280 who have been nominated
00:22:15.360 to serve in positions
00:22:16.480 in the Trump administration.
00:22:18.140 And some of the most
00:22:19.140 glaring examples
00:22:20.320 of the vetting crisis
00:22:21.960 that I've uncovered
00:22:22.940 are individuals themselves
00:22:24.460 who are tied
00:22:25.720 to the Koch network.
00:22:26.820 And so there seems
00:22:27.660 to be this subversive,
00:22:29.100 calculated effort
00:22:31.360 by members
00:22:32.340 of this Koch network
00:22:33.560 to find ways
00:22:35.020 to sneak into key positions
00:22:36.860 within the Trump administration,
00:22:38.580 whether it be Ruger
00:22:40.360 over at DNI
00:22:41.560 under Tulsi Gabbard,
00:22:42.660 or whether it be
00:22:43.440 this individual himself,
00:22:45.240 Brian Blaze,
00:22:46.080 who is the head
00:22:47.420 of Paragon Health
00:22:48.460 and is funded
00:22:49.200 by the Kochs.
00:22:50.660 How can you call yourself
00:22:51.820 a Trump ally
00:22:52.580 when we know
00:22:53.280 that the Kochs
00:22:54.420 essentially exist
00:22:55.880 in the current state
00:22:59.520 of affairs
00:23:00.080 to undermine
00:23:01.120 and sabotage
00:23:01.780 Donald Trump?
00:23:02.560 I mean,
00:23:02.720 from the very get-go,
00:23:04.440 the Kochs invested
00:23:05.580 millions of dollars
00:23:06.620 opposing President Trump
00:23:07.720 when he first ran.
00:23:09.000 And we saw
00:23:09.620 that even now
00:23:10.380 they're funding lawsuits
00:23:11.920 against his tariffs.
00:23:12.940 This is another story
00:23:13.740 that I exposed
00:23:14.580 a couple weeks ago.
00:23:16.260 And the groups
00:23:16.900 that the Kochs
00:23:17.740 are notorious
00:23:18.760 for funding,
00:23:20.000 especially the
00:23:20.560 Federalist Society,
00:23:21.920 there was just
00:23:22.380 a big scandal
00:23:22.940 a couple weeks ago
00:23:23.800 in the media,
00:23:24.580 Natalie,
00:23:25.120 for these donations
00:23:26.760 and how the Koch network
00:23:29.380 is trying to subvert
00:23:30.760 the Trump administration.
00:23:32.520 And so it doesn't matter
00:23:33.520 if they're so-called
00:23:34.300 libertarian
00:23:34.960 or Republican donors.
00:23:36.040 We know we have
00:23:37.100 the receipts,
00:23:37.720 we have the financial record,
00:23:38.960 we have followed
00:23:39.860 the money
00:23:40.480 to prove
00:23:41.440 that the Kochs
00:23:42.340 are trying to undermine
00:23:43.400 President Trump.
00:23:44.220 And so,
00:23:45.280 by that logic,
00:23:46.600 if you are funded
00:23:47.620 by the Kochs,
00:23:48.540 how can you then
00:23:49.320 call yourself
00:23:50.140 a Trump ally,
00:23:51.240 right?
00:23:51.460 This is what he's doing.
00:23:52.500 You can pull up
00:23:53.320 another article
00:23:53.960 that just came out,
00:23:54.860 I believe it came out
00:23:55.740 today in Politico,
00:23:57.440 and he's talking
00:23:59.060 about how,
00:24:00.540 oh, well,
00:24:01.240 Laura Loomer
00:24:01.800 isn't being honest,
00:24:03.300 I'm a Trump ally,
00:24:04.460 I worked with
00:24:05.000 President Trump,
00:24:05.700 I support his agenda,
00:24:07.040 but then he doesn't
00:24:08.420 want to answer
00:24:08.960 for his previous tweets
00:24:10.260 in which he said
00:24:10.900 we can never have Trump
00:24:11.940 and he doesn't want
00:24:12.480 to answer for why
00:24:13.280 he's trying to get
00:24:14.420 House Republicans
00:24:15.540 to go against
00:24:16.620 President Trump
00:24:17.380 who is on video.
00:24:18.260 I mean,
00:24:18.540 how many times
00:24:19.040 do we have to play
00:24:19.600 these clips
00:24:20.040 from President Trump
00:24:20.820 saying that he's going
00:24:21.580 to secure Medicaid?
00:24:23.320 We have all of the numbers here.
00:24:25.280 Recent polling
00:24:26.000 that was just released
00:24:27.540 a couple weeks ago,
00:24:28.400 and I know that Steve Bannon
00:24:29.780 also covered this
00:24:31.060 here on War Room,
00:24:32.060 shows that 78%
00:24:33.620 of Republican voters
00:24:34.840 firmly support Medicaid
00:24:36.220 according to recent polling.
00:24:38.340 And so,
00:24:38.860 why would we want to hand
00:24:40.240 the Democrats an advantage
00:24:41.540 in 2026
00:24:43.220 in the midterms
00:24:43.800 when we already have
00:24:44.320 such a slim majority
00:24:45.340 and we know how feckless
00:24:46.480 and incompetent
00:24:47.300 and stupid?
00:24:48.200 Well, maybe they're not stupid.
00:24:49.360 At this point,
00:24:49.820 I think it's just
00:24:50.400 deliberate sabotage
00:24:51.620 and malicious intent
00:24:53.640 from the Republicans, right?
00:24:54.940 We give them too much credit
00:24:55.860 when we allow them
00:24:56.780 to have the excuse
00:24:57.520 that they're stupid.
00:24:58.360 It's all coordinated, right?
00:24:59.880 These are people
00:25:00.600 who have shown us
00:25:01.480 that they do not want
00:25:02.320 to codify President Trump's agenda.
00:25:04.760 So, if they're not going
00:25:05.940 to codify Trump's agenda,
00:25:07.380 that's already going to lead
00:25:08.500 to voter suppression
00:25:09.640 going into 2026.
00:25:11.580 Imagine what cutting Medicaid,
00:25:13.480 which 78% of MAGA voters support,
00:25:16.360 according to recent polling,
00:25:17.680 is going to do
00:25:18.460 to suppress turnout in midterms.
00:25:20.300 It's almost like
00:25:20.780 they want the Democrats to win
00:25:22.340 so that they can get
00:25:23.360 their final stab at Trump,
00:25:24.640 their last shot, right?
00:25:26.600 They failed at assassinating him
00:25:28.140 multiple times.
00:25:28.960 They failed at impeaching him.
00:25:30.380 They failed at stealing
00:25:31.180 the election this time around.
00:25:32.740 It's their last shot, Natalie,
00:25:34.260 to lose the House
00:25:35.300 so that they can give
00:25:36.060 the Democrats
00:25:36.600 one last excuse
00:25:37.760 to impeach Donald Trump
00:25:39.000 and slow down
00:25:40.120 and obstruct his entire agenda
00:25:41.700 in the last two years
00:25:42.920 of his administration.
00:25:43.680 We've got a few minutes
00:25:46.640 before break.
00:25:47.460 I'd like to hold you,
00:25:48.300 if we can,
00:25:48.700 to get into the,
00:25:49.520 shall we say,
00:25:50.180 developing news
00:25:51.180 when it comes to
00:25:51.720 President Trump's
00:25:52.320 surge in general pick.
00:25:53.380 But just today, for example,
00:25:55.180 they sort of, you know,
00:25:56.100 covertly canceled votes
00:25:57.420 on defunding USAID, PBS,
00:26:00.760 NPR,
00:26:01.640 essentially all one in the same.
00:26:04.220 But your thoughts
00:26:05.040 on how you even attempt
00:26:06.500 to, you know,
00:26:07.240 justify this idea
00:26:08.680 that if we're going
00:26:09.920 to make cuts,
00:26:10.700 which apparently we can't do
00:26:11.860 on the doge side, right,
00:26:12.980 it's only going to be
00:26:13.600 $150 billion,
00:26:14.780 it's not the $2 trillion
00:26:15.600 that was initially promised,
00:26:16.980 but they're willing
00:26:17.680 to draw down on Medicaid,
00:26:19.620 which is, you know,
00:26:20.400 so inherently important
00:26:21.780 to not just MAGA voters,
00:26:23.100 but to the country writ large.
00:26:24.880 I mean, I think that
00:26:25.540 that sort of is the case
00:26:27.060 that you are making,
00:26:27.840 that this is political.
00:26:28.680 But your thoughts
00:26:29.400 on the cancellation
00:26:29.920 of that vote?
00:26:32.720 Look, I think it's really simple,
00:26:34.000 and I think it's very telling
00:26:35.120 that there's not discussions
00:26:36.620 taking place
00:26:37.380 about increasing
00:26:38.380 the speed of mass deportations
00:26:40.340 and the enormous burden
00:26:41.840 on our health care industry
00:26:43.140 and just, you know,
00:26:44.920 health care in general
00:26:45.700 that illegal aliens present
00:26:47.280 to the American taxpayer.
00:26:48.700 And so I think it's logical.
00:26:50.840 Don't cut Medicaid, right,
00:26:52.380 from hardworking Americans
00:26:53.500 and, you know,
00:26:54.620 key MAGA voters,
00:26:55.780 the heartland of this country
00:26:57.320 that secured
00:26:58.080 these election victories
00:26:59.040 for President Trump.
00:27:00.500 Start increasing
00:27:01.260 mass deportations
00:27:02.540 and decreasing the burden
00:27:04.800 that these criminal
00:27:06.020 illegal aliens
00:27:06.860 are placing
00:27:07.480 on our health care system,
00:27:10.020 right,
00:27:10.260 on the Medicaid system.
00:27:11.600 So, you know,
00:27:12.660 it's not rocket science.
00:27:13.860 You don't have to be
00:27:14.940 a member of Congress
00:27:16.660 to understand
00:27:17.760 how this works.
00:27:18.620 But apparently
00:27:19.260 it's very difficult
00:27:20.140 for people like Brian Blaze
00:27:21.540 to understand this subject,
00:27:23.560 and it's very difficult
00:27:24.560 for House Republicans
00:27:25.660 to, you know,
00:27:26.780 simply go along
00:27:27.680 with President Trump's,
00:27:28.960 you know,
00:27:29.200 deportation efforts
00:27:30.280 and to support his agenda
00:27:32.780 and to codify his agenda.
00:27:34.860 And I don't know,
00:27:35.760 maybe if people like Jim Jordan
00:27:37.560 started putting more effort
00:27:38.600 into impeaching
00:27:39.260 some of these radical judges
00:27:40.540 who are trying to stop
00:27:41.580 the mass deportations,
00:27:43.280 we could kill two birds
00:27:44.400 with one stone, right?
00:27:45.820 We could get all the illegals out
00:27:47.180 and we could lower health care costs.
00:27:47.860 I guess the best they can do
00:27:48.640 is not even a full committee hearing.
00:27:50.660 It's a subcommittee hearing
00:27:52.000 that I guess ultimately
00:27:52.800 gets canceled.
00:27:53.560 Laura, if you can hang with us
00:27:54.460 through the break,
00:27:55.000 I'd love to get your thoughts
00:27:55.960 on the Surgeon General pick
00:27:57.100 because you probably
00:27:57.720 had a hand in some of that,
00:27:59.380 at least allegedly.
00:28:00.340 And by the way,
00:28:00.780 quick shout out,
00:28:01.420 Charles Downs,
00:28:02.280 who is part of your Lumen team,
00:28:03.480 does wonderful work.
00:28:04.080 I always see him walking around
00:28:05.180 the Capitol,
00:28:06.520 sort of, I guess,
00:28:07.480 mini loomering a bunch of people.
00:28:08.940 So you guys do
00:28:09.620 a great operation here.
00:28:11.020 Honored to have you on.
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00:30:04.180 Laura, we've got a few minutes
00:30:04.900 left with you.
00:30:05.420 We're going to have Mike Davis
00:30:06.120 on after.
00:30:07.540 But as you were coming on,
00:30:08.620 there was some breaking news
00:30:09.580 that President Trump's
00:30:10.420 pick for Surgeon General,
00:30:12.460 Jeanette Nushawatt,
00:30:13.540 has been abandoned,
00:30:14.900 scrapped,
00:30:15.400 in favor of Casey Means,
00:30:18.420 or rather,
00:30:18.680 Callie Means,
00:30:19.500 who I think is wonderful
00:30:20.380 as a strong Maha person myself.
00:30:22.720 But Laura,
00:30:23.740 walk us through
00:30:24.660 sort of what happened here.
00:30:26.240 I know you had some,
00:30:27.840 shall we say,
00:30:28.200 receipts on Dr. Nushawatt.
00:30:32.300 Thanks, Natalie.
00:30:33.520 Yeah, look,
00:30:34.000 this is just a continuation
00:30:35.300 of the White House
00:30:36.660 vetting crisis.
00:30:37.340 I don't know who's in charge
00:30:39.680 of this vetting department
00:30:40.840 that doesn't really seem
00:30:41.960 to exist within the White House,
00:30:43.300 but it's becoming
00:30:44.080 extremely problematic.
00:30:45.880 I had a meeting
00:30:46.920 with President Trump
00:30:47.980 in the beginning of April
00:30:48.980 that was quite,
00:30:49.880 you know,
00:30:50.580 largely publicized.
00:30:52.700 I mean,
00:30:53.140 everybody saw it, right?
00:30:54.120 There's no denying
00:30:54.700 what happened
00:30:55.300 in the aftermath
00:30:56.100 of that meeting.
00:30:57.280 A lot of people were fired.
00:30:58.680 And the problem is,
00:31:00.280 Natalie,
00:31:00.620 is that we wouldn't be needing
00:31:01.840 to have these mass firings
00:31:03.320 of people who are
00:31:04.200 in charge of vetting
00:31:05.280 or during,
00:31:06.100 you know,
00:31:06.360 the transition period
00:31:07.220 would have actually done
00:31:08.360 proper vetting
00:31:09.080 on the individuals
00:31:09.900 who have been brought
00:31:10.640 into the Trump administration.
00:31:11.680 And so I don't work
00:31:13.880 for Donald Trump.
00:31:14.760 I don't tell Donald Trump
00:31:15.640 what to do,
00:31:16.340 but I am an independent journalist.
00:31:18.240 I do my own investigations,
00:31:20.060 my own research.
00:31:20.980 I am an opposition researcher.
00:31:22.560 And I believe I have a duty
00:31:23.860 to help protect the president
00:31:25.060 and to make sure
00:31:25.920 that the people
00:31:26.560 that are,
00:31:27.180 you know,
00:31:27.540 up for these confirmations
00:31:29.020 are the best people
00:31:30.220 who are best suited
00:31:31.000 to be serving the president
00:31:32.600 and his agenda.
00:31:33.580 And I don't know
00:31:34.720 who nominated
00:31:35.540 Jeanette Nushua.
00:31:36.760 I don't know
00:31:37.460 if she only got the position
00:31:38.860 due to nepotism
00:31:39.740 because she happens
00:31:40.640 to be the sister
00:31:41.460 in law of now,
00:31:42.760 you know,
00:31:42.980 the now former,
00:31:43.960 right,
00:31:44.260 former NSC advisor,
00:31:46.280 Michael Waltz,
00:31:47.020 who was just exiled
00:31:48.580 to Siberia
00:31:49.400 when President Trump
00:31:50.360 made him
00:31:51.540 the United Nations
00:31:53.080 ambassador last week.
00:31:54.860 But she is on record
00:31:57.940 supporting vaccinations
00:31:59.720 for COVID,
00:32:01.000 even after there were
00:32:02.740 tons of studies published
00:32:03.800 showing that these vaccines,
00:32:06.380 really DNA modifiers,
00:32:08.000 were causing extreme
00:32:09.580 health ailments.
00:32:10.960 She's on video
00:32:12.400 advocating for the masking
00:32:13.880 of children.
00:32:15.040 OK,
00:32:15.320 it's child abuse.
00:32:16.580 She's on video
00:32:17.380 entertaining this tranny
00:32:18.940 delusion with gender
00:32:20.680 dysphoria in children,
00:32:22.060 essentially supporting
00:32:22.980 the idea that children
00:32:24.060 can be transgender,
00:32:25.040 which is totally
00:32:26.280 oppositional to
00:32:27.340 President Trump's
00:32:28.560 health,
00:32:29.320 public health vision
00:32:30.060 for America
00:32:31.340 and also
00:32:32.120 just conservative values
00:32:34.400 in general,
00:32:35.160 period.
00:32:35.400 She also encouraged
00:32:37.820 and supported
00:32:38.560 Facebook censoring
00:32:39.980 vaccine information
00:32:42.060 during the COVID
00:32:43.960 vaccine mandates
00:32:44.980 in which we saw
00:32:45.960 Facebook censoring
00:32:47.180 people in the
00:32:49.460 Maha movement
00:32:50.160 and in the
00:32:51.200 alternative medicine
00:32:52.960 world when they
00:32:54.140 were promoting
00:32:54.660 things like
00:32:55.240 hydroxychloroquine
00:32:56.400 and ivermectin.
00:32:57.620 And they were saying
00:32:58.280 that this was dangerous
00:32:59.760 to public health
00:33:00.700 and that it needed
00:33:01.240 to be censored
00:33:02.040 for the good
00:33:02.460 of the American people
00:33:03.380 because according
00:33:04.040 to Mark Zuckerberg,
00:33:05.020 we can't make
00:33:05.560 our own decisions
00:33:06.320 as it relates
00:33:07.160 to our bodies.
00:33:08.360 Want to abort a baby?
00:33:09.760 Sure, no problem.
00:33:10.780 But my body and my choice
00:33:11.840 when it comes to vaccines?
00:33:13.480 Unacceptable,
00:33:14.200 according to these people.
00:33:15.260 And that's what she supported.
00:33:16.680 But through my own investigation,
00:33:19.840 I uncovered that
00:33:20.880 the nominee
00:33:21.860 for Surgeon General
00:33:23.080 is embroiled
00:33:23.960 in active litigation,
00:33:25.280 a malpractice case
00:33:26.280 that suggested
00:33:26.900 that she didn't
00:33:27.960 seem to understand
00:33:28.920 the difference
00:33:29.660 between an infection
00:33:31.000 and a foreign object,
00:33:32.380 which is, you know,
00:33:33.200 kind of just general knowledge.
00:33:35.020 You should know that
00:33:35.700 if you're going to be
00:33:36.140 the Surgeon General.
00:33:37.180 And then, of course,
00:33:37.860 there were other reports
00:33:38.660 that came out earlier
00:33:39.520 in the week, Natalie,
00:33:40.480 that suggested
00:33:41.140 that she lied
00:33:42.080 about her credentials
00:33:43.360 or fabricated
00:33:44.420 some of her credentials
00:33:45.680 to make it seem
00:33:46.520 like she went
00:33:46.980 to an American medical school
00:33:48.260 when she, in fact,
00:33:49.040 went to a foreign medical school.
00:33:50.980 So I think it was just,
00:33:52.720 you know,
00:33:53.420 death by a thousand cuts.
00:33:55.280 And, you know,
00:33:56.080 it seems like the receipts
00:33:57.180 that I published
00:33:58.240 about four days ago
00:33:59.560 seemed to be
00:34:00.380 the final nail
00:34:01.320 in her coffin.
00:34:02.080 So it's great
00:34:03.700 that President Trump
00:34:04.660 is very receptive
00:34:05.500 to this information
00:34:06.500 and that he's taking
00:34:07.720 this additional vetting
00:34:09.080 quite seriously
00:34:10.120 in his decision making.
00:34:11.580 And I'm happy to see
00:34:12.460 that her nomination
00:34:13.240 has been pulled.
00:34:14.180 We really dodged a bullet.
00:34:15.560 She was supposed to go
00:34:16.520 before the Senate tomorrow
00:34:17.620 for her confirmation hearing,
00:34:18.960 and now President Trump
00:34:20.420 has nominated somebody else.
00:34:22.140 So hopefully,
00:34:24.240 you know,
00:34:24.460 it all works out
00:34:25.200 for the good.
00:34:25.920 But Jeanette
00:34:27.080 was very unpopular
00:34:27.900 with the MAGA base.
00:34:29.100 And, you know,
00:34:29.800 anybody could have done
00:34:30.760 some surface-level vetting
00:34:31.840 to figure that out.
00:34:32.760 But as I said before,
00:34:34.060 it's very concerning, Natalie.
00:34:35.440 There doesn't seem
00:34:36.000 to be any proper vetting
00:34:37.200 or any vetting at all
00:34:38.260 happening in this administration.
00:34:40.240 So hopefully,
00:34:41.020 we can rectify that soon.
00:34:43.480 And, Laura,
00:34:44.160 last question real quick
00:34:45.140 before I let you go.
00:34:47.540 Directionally,
00:34:48.060 the next people
00:34:48.820 that you are looking into,
00:34:50.540 hopefully,
00:34:51.440 lumering,
00:34:52.180 people who are pretending
00:34:52.940 to be pro-Trump in art,
00:34:54.200 can you give our audience,
00:34:55.480 show a little bit of ankle,
00:34:56.420 as Steve would say,
00:34:57.300 on anything that you're
00:34:58.220 looking into right now?
00:34:59.060 Well,
00:35:01.420 I'm looking into
00:35:02.440 a lot of the HHS appointees.
00:35:05.100 You know,
00:35:05.240 when President Trump
00:35:06.000 made his deal
00:35:07.020 with RFK Jr.,
00:35:08.440 the deal was
00:35:09.080 you got to stay
00:35:09.580 in your lane, right?
00:35:10.340 He tried to be friendly
00:35:11.540 about it and joked
00:35:12.460 about it at the rallies.
00:35:13.600 You know,
00:35:13.760 oh, I told him
00:35:14.420 he's got to stay
00:35:14.820 in his lane.
00:35:15.520 It doesn't look like
00:35:16.360 RFK is staying
00:35:17.220 in his lane.
00:35:17.860 And so I'm investigating
00:35:19.240 officials at HHS
00:35:20.600 who have been appointed
00:35:21.580 by Kennedy
00:35:22.380 because it appears
00:35:23.820 that some of these
00:35:24.740 individuals have,
00:35:25.980 you know,
00:35:26.500 radical views.
00:35:27.460 They're Marxists.
00:35:28.360 These are individuals
00:35:29.640 who are climate activists,
00:35:31.620 radical climate activists
00:35:32.800 who seem to be engaged
00:35:34.620 in anti-Trump propaganda
00:35:35.880 while they are still
00:35:37.300 working within
00:35:38.460 the Trump administration.
00:35:39.600 I just broke a story
00:35:40.460 the other day
00:35:41.040 about a woman
00:35:41.600 by the name
00:35:42.640 of Stephanie Speer
00:35:43.620 who was appointed
00:35:44.860 by RFK Jr.
00:35:45.960 to serve as
00:35:46.680 his deputy chief of staff.
00:35:48.640 She's the founder
00:35:49.260 of a group
00:35:49.760 called EcoWatch.
00:35:50.760 She was RFK Jr.'s
00:35:52.260 press secretary
00:35:54.040 for his presidential campaign.
00:35:55.600 And Stephanie Speer
00:35:57.420 was the founder
00:35:58.460 and was listed
00:35:59.320 as a CEO
00:35:59.960 for this group EcoWatch
00:36:01.200 which is a climate
00:36:02.000 change activism group.
00:36:03.440 Well, even though
00:36:04.440 she's working at HHS
00:36:05.740 in the Trump administration,
00:36:07.380 EcoWatch the other day
00:36:08.500 took to their Twitter account,
00:36:09.940 X account,
00:36:10.580 oops,
00:36:10.860 just dead named X,
00:36:12.080 to literally trash
00:36:14.180 the Trump administration
00:36:15.240 and to say
00:36:15.920 that all of his tariffs
00:36:17.020 and everything
00:36:17.560 that he's done
00:36:18.140 has basically put us
00:36:19.900 back two years
00:36:20.600 and that we were better
00:36:21.420 under Joe Biden.
00:36:22.320 And it still shows
00:36:23.640 that she's the CEO
00:36:24.560 and founder of EcoWatch
00:36:26.060 and RFK also works
00:36:27.860 with her on this project.
00:36:29.060 And so that's very concerning.
00:36:31.580 The receipts
00:36:32.280 have been posted online
00:36:33.460 for that investigation as well
00:36:35.260 and I'm going to be looking
00:36:36.380 at other officials at HHS.
00:36:38.540 But unfortunately,
00:36:40.160 you know,
00:36:40.500 look,
00:36:40.740 I know everyone likes
00:36:41.480 to sing kumbaya
00:36:42.260 and pretend like
00:36:43.100 we can all get along
00:36:44.020 and we can all be friends.
00:36:45.240 But if you're not
00:36:46.280 ideologically compatible,
00:36:47.800 eventually you're going to clash.
00:36:49.500 And I don't think
00:36:50.200 that this idea
00:36:51.080 that people can stay
00:36:52.000 in their lane
00:36:52.560 is reasonable.
00:36:53.840 And the receipts show,
00:36:55.100 Natalie,
00:36:55.400 that some of these HHS officials
00:36:57.240 are not staying
00:36:58.360 in their lane
00:36:58.920 and that's going
00:36:59.520 to be a problem
00:37:00.360 if we have people
00:37:01.760 using secret social media accounts
00:37:03.660 to try to subvert Donald Trump
00:37:07.220 and push out
00:37:07.940 anti-Trump propaganda
00:37:08.920 while they're working
00:37:10.040 inside the Trump administration.
00:37:13.020 Well, Laura,
00:37:13.740 I think you probably
00:37:14.360 just caused
00:37:15.000 an emergency meeting
00:37:16.240 to be called at HHS.
00:37:18.140 And on that note,
00:37:18.780 you know,
00:37:18.980 this audience appreciates
00:37:20.120 your work.
00:37:20.940 If people want to follow,
00:37:22.000 you check out
00:37:22.680 everything you're doing,
00:37:23.680 your whole team,
00:37:24.260 where can they go
00:37:24.720 to do that?
00:37:26.520 Yeah,
00:37:26.680 you can follow me
00:37:27.440 on X at Laura Loomer
00:37:28.680 and also on X
00:37:30.000 at Loomer Unleashed.
00:37:31.360 And my website
00:37:32.060 is Loomer.com.
00:37:33.480 I have a show
00:37:34.160 on Rumble
00:37:34.700 every Tuesday
00:37:35.320 and Thursday
00:37:35.840 called Loomer Unleashed
00:37:37.160 9 p.m. Eastern.
00:37:38.720 And also,
00:37:39.600 for people listening
00:37:40.680 who are interested
00:37:41.600 in having their own
00:37:42.780 executive level vetting
00:37:43.980 and opposition research,
00:37:45.160 whether you're a candidate
00:37:46.080 or whether you are
00:37:47.220 a corporate executive
00:37:48.140 or whether you're thinking
00:37:49.540 of running for office,
00:37:51.160 I launched my own
00:37:52.040 opposition research firm
00:37:53.220 called Loomer Strategies.
00:37:54.680 And I think it's really
00:37:55.400 important that,
00:37:56.500 you know,
00:37:56.680 with the midterms coming up
00:37:57.960 that Republicans,
00:37:59.480 consultants,
00:38:00.780 strategists,
00:38:01.560 Republican candidates,
00:38:02.420 I know that a lot
00:38:03.660 of Republican candidates
00:38:04.920 and elected officials
00:38:05.900 watch War Room.
00:38:07.160 They have the best
00:38:07.900 opposition research
00:38:09.120 possible because
00:38:10.140 information is a weapon
00:38:12.400 and it's time
00:38:13.620 to get weaponized.
00:38:15.620 You need to kneecap
00:38:16.660 your political opposition
00:38:17.840 with the best information
00:38:19.040 and that's what
00:38:20.260 I'm trying to do.
00:38:21.200 I'm trying to kneecap
00:38:22.560 all of President Trump's enemies
00:38:24.420 and all of the saboteurs
00:38:26.120 who are trying to subvert
00:38:27.380 his agenda
00:38:28.260 so that we can protect
00:38:29.380 Donald Trump.
00:38:31.500 It's information warfare.
00:38:33.040 Laura,
00:38:33.300 always an honor to have you on.
00:38:34.320 We'll have you back on soon.
00:38:35.920 Thanks for having me.
00:38:36.760 Really appreciate it.
00:38:39.180 Of course.
00:38:40.140 And I think Steve
00:38:40.880 would call this
00:38:41.520 Murderer's Row.
00:38:42.540 We're now going to go
00:38:43.100 to Mike Davis.
00:38:44.080 Mike,
00:38:44.380 you've got a few minutes.
00:38:45.340 I know the Article 3 project
00:38:46.520 was celebrating
00:38:47.180 a lot of the judicial
00:38:48.100 nominations from President Trump
00:38:50.360 in his first hundred days.
00:38:51.840 If you want to walk through
00:38:52.560 some of the heavy hitters,
00:38:54.620 the, I guess for once,
00:38:55.760 judicial nominations
00:38:56.680 and nominees
00:38:57.300 that are actually good
00:38:58.380 and not radical activist judges,
00:39:01.000 let's hear it.
00:39:02.580 Yeah,
00:39:02.800 President Trump's biggest
00:39:03.840 and most consequential
00:39:05.260 accomplishment
00:39:06.500 of his first term
00:39:08.440 was the appointment
00:39:10.180 of three justices
00:39:12.360 and the transformation
00:39:13.360 of the federal judiciary
00:39:14.860 to the first constitutionalist
00:39:16.740 majority in 90 years.
00:39:18.680 And, you know,
00:39:19.400 these judges
00:39:20.320 and justices
00:39:21.640 will disappoint us
00:39:22.920 from time to time,
00:39:23.900 but just imagine
00:39:24.760 how bad it would have been
00:39:26.480 if Hillary Clinton
00:39:27.380 replaced
00:39:28.180 the late,
00:39:29.200 great Justice Scalia
00:39:30.520 instead of President Trump.
00:39:32.540 And President Trump
00:39:33.800 is going to build
00:39:35.040 on this
00:39:36.560 first term accomplishment
00:39:38.100 in his second term
00:39:39.580 with even more
00:39:40.760 bold
00:39:41.680 and fearless
00:39:42.400 judges.
00:39:44.280 And the Article 3 project
00:39:45.920 is working
00:39:47.020 very closely
00:39:48.340 with President Trump,
00:39:50.260 White House Chief of Staff
00:39:51.520 Susie Wiles,
00:39:52.600 Dave Warrington
00:39:53.300 of the White House Counsel,
00:39:54.620 Steve Kenney,
00:39:55.820 the Deputy White House Counsel
00:39:57.060 who we've had
00:39:57.700 on the war room,
00:39:59.060 Attorney General Pam Bondi
00:40:00.380 and her team,
00:40:01.440 and they are off
00:40:02.560 to a very strong start
00:40:04.520 with their first batch
00:40:06.000 of judicial nominees.
00:40:07.900 You have Whitney Hermendorfer
00:40:09.600 on a Tennessee-based seat
00:40:12.980 on the Sixth Circuit
00:40:15.000 Court of Appeals.
00:40:16.020 She is a brilliant,
00:40:17.580 brilliant legal mind,
00:40:19.080 a rock-solid constitutionalist.
00:40:22.140 She's clerked
00:40:22.920 for Justice Alito
00:40:24.060 and two other
00:40:26.060 Supreme Court justices.
00:40:28.480 She has taken on
00:40:31.100 the woke left,
00:40:32.380 transgender ideology.
00:40:33.880 She's been a strong
00:40:34.980 advocate for First Amendment
00:40:37.240 rights for people
00:40:38.720 with Christian beliefs
00:40:40.680 and other conservatives.
00:40:41.700 She's going to be
00:40:42.220 a great addition
00:40:43.780 to the Sixth Circuit.
00:40:45.280 And then President Trump
00:40:46.200 has picked four all-stars
00:40:48.520 for district court seats
00:40:50.720 in the state of Missouri,
00:40:52.440 particularly in the
00:40:54.020 Eastern District of Missouri
00:40:55.300 in St. Louis,
00:40:58.020 which is going to become
00:40:58.980 a litigation hotbed
00:41:00.980 because I think it's like
00:41:02.560 seven of the eight
00:41:03.480 district court judges
00:41:04.320 are now Republican appointed.
00:41:06.840 You have Christian Stevens,
00:41:09.440 Joshua Devine,
00:41:10.940 who worked on the
00:41:11.720 Senate Judiciary Committee
00:41:12.860 and All-Star,
00:41:14.400 Maria Lanahan,
00:41:16.280 Zachary Bluestone.
00:41:18.480 We are off to a very strong start.
00:41:22.160 These are even more
00:41:23.360 bold and fearless judges.
00:41:26.220 These are not your typical
00:41:28.080 Federalist Society cookie-cutter
00:41:30.720 judicial nominees.
00:41:32.900 These are Article III
00:41:34.120 Project-approved
00:41:35.440 judicial nominees,
00:41:36.500 and that's what
00:41:36.980 President Trump wants.
00:41:39.280 I've spoken with him
00:41:41.020 several times about judicial,
00:41:43.120 many, many, many, many times
00:41:44.800 about judicial nominees,
00:41:45.920 and we are delivering
00:41:47.580 for President Trump
00:41:48.760 and the American people
00:41:49.700 with even more bold
00:41:51.500 and fearless judges.
00:41:52.540 This is more important
00:41:53.460 than ever
00:41:54.000 when you see this
00:41:54.860 ongoing lawfare
00:41:56.000 against President Trump.
00:41:58.480 Before the election,
00:41:59.720 they tried to bankrupt him
00:42:01.040 for non-fraud.
00:42:02.360 They tried to take him
00:42:04.000 off the ballot
00:42:04.540 several times
00:42:05.500 unconstitutionally
00:42:06.940 under the 14th Amendment.
00:42:08.640 They tried to throw him
00:42:10.160 in prison four times
00:42:11.480 for life,
00:42:12.560 for non-crimes.
00:42:13.560 They tried to take off his head.
00:42:14.900 And President Trump
00:42:15.760 got a decisive mandate
00:42:18.220 from the American people.
00:42:19.740 And now we have
00:42:20.500 these activist judges
00:42:22.380 around the country,
00:42:23.540 these Obama and Biden radicals
00:42:25.720 around the country
00:42:26.900 who are sabotaging
00:42:28.180 the president.
00:42:29.160 And that's why we need judges
00:42:30.660 like this first slate
00:42:32.520 of judges
00:42:33.040 that President Trump
00:42:34.820 just put up,
00:42:35.520 these bold and fearless judges
00:42:36.900 who are going to follow the law
00:42:38.320 and they're going to make sure
00:42:39.880 that we're following
00:42:41.020 the Constitution
00:42:41.900 and they're not cowed
00:42:43.120 by the left
00:42:44.240 like too many of these
00:42:45.240 Republican-appointed judges
00:42:46.620 have been in the past.
00:42:48.200 More bold and fearless.
00:42:49.300 We want Supreme Court justices
00:42:51.940 in the mold of justice.
00:42:54.400 Judge Eileen Cannon,
00:42:56.240 right,
00:42:56.740 instead of some of these
00:42:57.980 other misfires.
00:42:58.460 I guess you could just say
00:42:59.760 no more Bose-Bergs.
00:43:01.340 How about that?
00:43:01.880 Mike Davis,
00:43:02.360 we've got to bounce.
00:43:03.280 Give the audience
00:43:03.840 your coordinates,
00:43:04.520 the Article 3 Project.
00:43:05.480 If they want to reach out,
00:43:06.320 where can they go?
00:43:07.500 Article 3project.org.
00:43:09.180 Article 3project.org.
00:43:10.580 You can donate there.
00:43:11.900 Follow us on social media.
00:43:14.020 The War Room Posse
00:43:14.820 superpower take action.
00:43:16.300 And thank you, Natalie.
00:43:18.340 Mike Davis,
00:43:19.080 as always,
00:43:19.580 thank you so much
00:43:20.520 for joining us.
00:43:21.280 War and Posse,
00:43:22.020 don't go anywhere.
00:43:22.960 Not only do I have the 6 p.m.,
00:43:24.240 but we're going to get into
00:43:25.040 maybe some finally good news
00:43:27.060 on the Fauci-Beaglegate front,
00:43:29.820 what the horrible things
00:43:30.840 Democrats are doing to animals.
00:43:32.100 We'll be right back
00:43:32.640 after this short break.
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00:45:00.600 Here's your host,
00:45:02.040 Stephen K. Bannon.
00:45:05.900 Welcome back
00:45:06.780 to The War Room.
00:45:08.160 I think home of all things
00:45:09.640 Anthony Fauci.
00:45:10.480 Typically,
00:45:10.920 we talk about
00:45:11.480 the gain-of-function research,
00:45:12.960 the Wuhan Institute of Virology,
00:45:14.720 but on, I guess,
00:45:15.600 just a basic human decency level.
00:45:18.160 I'm sure you all remember
00:45:19.060 BeagleGate,
00:45:20.040 what was going on here.
00:45:21.240 I also think in Tunisia,
00:45:22.960 in China,
00:45:23.500 the horrible things.
00:45:24.840 They were funding
00:45:25.720 someone who is an expert
00:45:27.260 on all of that.
00:45:28.280 I'm honored to have him on.
00:45:29.300 That is Wayne Pacelli,
00:45:30.720 the former CEO,
00:45:32.280 actually,
00:45:32.720 of the Humane Society.
00:45:33.780 Talk about the big tent
00:45:35.200 that we have here.
00:45:36.460 I wanted to have you on
00:45:37.880 to talk about
00:45:38.660 the Trump administration's
00:45:40.040 moves to cancel
00:45:41.420 so much of these
00:45:42.600 horrible Beagle experiments,
00:45:44.060 but also just more broadly,
00:45:46.000 particularly your organization
00:45:47.420 has kind of been tracking
00:45:48.360 how the Trump administration
00:45:49.960 really has been revolutionary
00:45:51.200 in terms of
00:45:52.140 weeding out,
00:45:52.800 cutting out animal testing,
00:45:54.000 at least here in the United States.
00:45:56.220 Yeah, Natalie,
00:45:57.140 I'm glad to be with you
00:45:58.080 and your audience.
00:45:59.280 I'm president of
00:45:59.840 Animal Wellness Action.
00:46:01.740 And I think
00:46:02.860 what's happened recently
00:46:04.320 in the month of April
00:46:05.600 with Jay Bhattacharya,
00:46:07.800 the appointee to direct
00:46:09.120 the National Institutes of Health,
00:46:10.880 and then Dr. Marty McCary
00:46:12.420 to be commissioner of FDA,
00:46:14.060 is the biggest gain
00:46:15.580 on animal testing
00:46:16.640 in the 150-year history
00:46:19.340 of animal testing
00:46:20.760 and vivisection.
00:46:22.400 And so much credit
00:46:23.680 is due to
00:46:24.640 Robert F. Kennedy Jr.,
00:46:26.960 obviously President Trump.
00:46:28.920 I've been working
00:46:29.680 with Laura Trump
00:46:30.720 on this issue for years.
00:46:32.220 She and I were
00:46:32.840 calling lawmakers
00:46:34.140 with the FDA Modernization Act
00:46:37.280 that Rand Paul led
00:46:38.560 in the Senate.
00:46:39.280 Rand Paul did a fantastic job
00:46:41.000 leading this effort.
00:46:41.680 We had a government mandate.
00:46:44.580 The federal government
00:46:45.220 was telling pharmaceutical companies
00:46:46.960 that the only way
00:46:48.320 they could screen new drugs,
00:46:50.360 a new cancer drug,
00:46:51.340 a heart drug,
00:46:51.940 a pain drug,
00:46:52.760 a bone drug,
00:46:54.200 was to do extensive
00:46:55.640 multi-year testing
00:46:56.680 on animals.
00:46:57.700 We showed that the data
00:46:59.120 was conclusive
00:47:00.460 in the wrong direction
00:47:01.800 for the scientists
00:47:02.940 who were advocating for this.
00:47:04.240 in 9 of 10 cases
00:47:06.500 when drugs pass muster
00:47:08.080 in animal tests
00:47:09.440 with beagles,
00:47:10.760 primates,
00:47:11.260 and other animals,
00:47:12.140 it would fail
00:47:13.040 in human clinical trials.
00:47:14.720 What kind of success rate
00:47:16.160 is this
00:47:16.680 if it's a 90% failure rate,
00:47:19.540 10% success rate?
00:47:21.340 So we made the case,
00:47:22.420 Rand Paul led the bill
00:47:23.680 to eliminate
00:47:24.480 the animal testing mandate.
00:47:25.740 And the backdrop
00:47:26.400 of all this
00:47:27.140 was NIH
00:47:27.820 and its different agencies
00:47:30.420 supporting these
00:47:31.340 ghastly beagle experiments.
00:47:33.180 I'll tell you,
00:47:34.200 as a beagle owner
00:47:35.380 and lover,
00:47:36.500 these animals
00:47:37.000 are so trusting,
00:47:38.660 they are so gentle,
00:47:40.200 and that's the reason
00:47:41.100 that they're used
00:47:41.700 in these labs
00:47:42.280 to do these
00:47:42.720 diabolical tests on them.
00:47:45.800 But McCary was approved
00:47:48.220 or confirmed by the Senate
00:47:49.440 on April 1st.
00:47:50.780 On April 10th,
00:47:51.840 his first public announcement
00:47:53.100 was to say
00:47:54.020 we're getting out
00:47:54.800 of this entire business.
00:47:56.100 We're getting out
00:47:56.840 of animal testing,
00:47:57.700 which was a 1930s
00:47:58.940 Depression-era strategy,
00:48:00.700 and we're going into
00:48:02.000 this new,
00:48:02.920 21st century
00:48:04.160 set of human-relevant
00:48:06.060 methods of screening drugs.
00:48:08.380 And then just two weeks later,
00:48:10.000 Jay Bhattacharya,
00:48:11.060 leading NIH,
00:48:11.840 the biggest grantor
00:48:12.980 of biomedical research
00:48:14.180 in the world,
00:48:14.960 said they're going to follow.
00:48:16.180 So hats off
00:48:17.520 to President Trump,
00:48:19.000 to Laura Trump
00:48:19.860 for really being
00:48:20.800 an incredible advocate,
00:48:22.720 Rand Paul,
00:48:23.840 so many other lawmakers,
00:48:25.020 Buddy Carter of Georgia
00:48:26.060 has been leading
00:48:26.800 on the House side on this.
00:48:28.840 It's been an incredible effort.
00:48:30.180 We have a new dawn
00:48:31.200 when it comes to
00:48:31.980 beagle protection
00:48:32.740 in the United States,
00:48:33.500 and it's only because
00:48:35.100 of the change
00:48:35.860 in the administration,
00:48:36.660 because the Biden team
00:48:38.340 was stonewalling
00:48:39.400 and blocking
00:48:39.860 even after we passed
00:48:41.540 the FDA Modernization Act
00:48:42.920 to eliminate
00:48:43.680 the animal testing mandate
00:48:44.960 that had been in place
00:48:45.620 for 84 years.
00:48:47.320 And just give me
00:48:49.520 a few minutes
00:48:50.040 a little bit
00:48:50.460 on your organization,
00:48:51.880 but particularly,
00:48:53.080 I think there's
00:48:53.560 an even more nefarious side
00:48:54.920 to the animal testing
00:48:56.020 or experiments,
00:48:56.700 which we saw go on
00:48:57.820 in Wuhan, right,
00:48:58.600 with the transgenic mice,
00:48:59.960 the sort of gain-of-function
00:49:00.980 experimentation.
00:49:02.700 Obviously,
00:49:03.000 the Trump administration
00:49:03.720 has made great strides,
00:49:05.640 but where would you say
00:49:06.460 they, you know,
00:49:07.160 in conjunction with Congress,
00:49:09.060 what do they have left
00:49:10.160 to do to, you think,
00:49:11.120 really, you know,
00:49:11.840 seal the deal
00:49:12.340 on this issue?
00:49:13.980 Well, we need to,
00:49:15.000 there's a lot more to do,
00:49:16.040 because these were vision statements
00:49:17.580 and they were as good
00:49:18.940 as they could have been.
00:49:19.980 But now we need to shut down
00:49:21.360 seven national regional
00:49:22.720 primate centers
00:49:23.980 that have tens of thousands
00:49:25.000 of primates
00:49:25.680 that are destined
00:49:26.800 for laboratories
00:49:28.060 unless we shut down
00:49:29.940 those efforts.
00:49:30.480 This should be a top priority
00:49:31.500 for the Doge
00:49:32.260 to shut down
00:49:33.440 these national primate
00:49:34.340 research centers.
00:49:35.420 We have two massive
00:49:36.580 private beagle
00:49:39.000 breeding colonies
00:49:40.080 to feed those beagles
00:49:41.480 into the lab system.
00:49:42.880 There's one in upstate New York
00:49:43.900 that has 20,000 beagles,
00:49:45.660 like on a factory farm.
00:49:47.280 And then there's another one
00:49:48.100 in Wisconsin
00:49:48.600 with about 3,000 or 4,000 beagles.
00:49:50.860 So we've got to shut down
00:49:51.900 the regional primate centers.
00:49:53.580 We've got to,
00:49:54.320 if we're doing grant making,
00:49:55.660 and obviously grant making
00:49:56.760 in many areas
00:49:58.180 of medical research
00:49:59.280 and drug screening
00:50:00.400 is important,
00:50:01.800 we've got to make sure
00:50:02.420 the animals are not involved
00:50:03.520 because they're just not working
00:50:05.560 as a proxy for humans.
00:50:07.060 They're not forecasting
00:50:08.080 the human reaction to drugs.
00:50:10.120 What we have
00:50:10.920 are organs on a chip,
00:50:12.540 organoids,
00:50:13.440 artificial intelligence,
00:50:14.440 all of these 21st century methods
00:50:16.660 to be more accurate,
00:50:18.320 more reliable.
00:50:19.200 One reason we have
00:50:19.920 enormously high drug prices
00:50:21.940 is because of all
00:50:22.880 this animal testing.
00:50:24.180 It jacks up the pricing
00:50:25.740 for the drugs
00:50:27.720 because it takes 10 to 15 years
00:50:29.300 for a drug to get to market.
00:50:30.860 It's $2.2 billion in costs,
00:50:33.740 partly because of the government mandate
00:50:35.240 on the pharmaceuticals.
00:50:36.380 And then it fails
00:50:37.880 nine of 10 times.
00:50:38.920 So every drug
00:50:39.860 that passes muster
00:50:41.100 has to cover
00:50:41.880 that $2.2 billion,
00:50:43.380 but then also
00:50:44.200 the nine failures.
00:50:45.700 And if it's $2 billion
00:50:46.520 for each one,
00:50:47.100 that's $22 billion.
00:50:48.460 That means
00:50:48.920 we have to go
00:50:49.680 for the blockbuster drugs
00:50:50.820 when you have 7,000 diseases
00:50:52.680 afflicting people.
00:50:53.800 We're not able
00:50:54.600 to get at the diseases
00:50:56.000 that are affecting
00:50:56.840 millions and millions
00:50:58.220 of Americans.
00:51:00.260 And Wayne,
00:51:00.900 we're coming up
00:51:01.380 against the end of the show.
00:51:02.240 We'll definitely
00:51:02.560 have you back on.
00:51:03.380 In the meantime,
00:51:03.880 if people want to check out
00:51:04.920 your organization,
00:51:05.800 keep up to date with you,
00:51:06.800 where can they go
00:51:07.360 to do that?
00:51:09.980 AnimalWellnessAction.org.
00:51:12.140 And we're really grateful.
00:51:13.480 We just exposed
00:51:14.800 the terrible
00:51:15.460 Native American
00:51:16.600 animal sacrifice plan.
00:51:19.060 They're smothering eagles
00:51:20.440 to sacrifice these eagles
00:51:22.560 to the spiritual guides there.
00:51:25.260 So please join us.
00:51:27.220 Get involved.
00:51:28.000 We're fighting animal cruelty,
00:51:29.600 which is a vice
00:51:30.440 in our society.
00:51:31.360 Animal cruelty
00:51:31.880 is tied to other abuses,
00:51:33.820 criminality,
00:51:34.860 a loss of empathy
00:51:35.760 for others.
00:51:36.320 And again,
00:51:37.380 I want to thank
00:51:38.140 the leadership
00:51:39.340 at NIH and FDA
00:51:40.860 and the president
00:51:42.440 and also Bobby Kennedy
00:51:44.540 for this incredible
00:51:45.600 turnaround on animal testing.
00:51:48.600 Thank you so much
00:51:49.520 for joining us, Wayne.
00:51:50.340 Have a good one.
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