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Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Missouri) warns his own party over its push to make potential cuts to Medicaid. Steve and J.B. dive deep into why the cuts are a bad idea and why President Trump should not allow them to happen.
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Meanwhile, Republican Senator Josh Hawley is warning his own party over its push to make
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potential cuts to Medicaid. In a guest essay for the New York Times, Hawley wrote in part this,
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Mr. Trump has promised working class tax cuts and protection for working class social insurance,
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such as Medicaid. But now a noisy contingent of corporatist Republicans, call it the party's
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Wall Street wing, is urging Congress to ignore all that and get back to the old time religion,
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corporate giveaways, preferences for capital and deep cuts to social insurance. The wing of the
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party wants Republicans to build our big, beautiful bill around slashing health insurance for the
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working poor. But that argument is both morally wrong and politically suicidal. We heard Josh
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Hawley actually saying something that should be very obvious to most Republicans, especially
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Republicans in deep red state America, whether you're in Missouri, whether you're in Alabama,
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whether you're in Nebraska, wherever you are, Idaho, like Medicaid, Montana, Medicaid is a lifeline
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for those residents. And here you have Republicans talking about slashing Medicaid to pay for,
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you know, billionaires tax cuts on the coast, which is which is why that big, beautiful bill has some
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big, unbeautiful problems. Right. I mean, there's long been this myth in the Republican Party that
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anything that smacks of the welfare state is only for voters of color in Democratic cities. And as we
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know from as far back as that seminal book, What's the Matter with Kansas? A lot of these programs,
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a lot of government assistance goes to rural areas, goes to red states. And that's a big problem in
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terms of passing this bill. I listened to that clip you just played of President Trump saying
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he can't imagine any Republican being against it. I guess he can't hear Josh Hawley's voice or read
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the op ed page of the New York Times. But there is disagreement in the Republican Party. There's
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disagreement in the MAGA caucus. I mean, I write about this in a column that'll go up in a couple
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of hours. But Laura Loomer has come out against the Medicaid cuts. And there's an interesting larger
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story here, which is we always talk of MAGA or many of us talk too frequently of the MAGA movement
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as a cult. And it's actually quite fractious. And I think we're seeing that through the lens of this
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a
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belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the
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world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like
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that go to share the big lie? MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people
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had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save
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my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Thursday, 15 May, in the year of our Lord, 2025. So, so much going on today. We're going to get
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back to President Trump's triumphant tour of the Middle East. He's in UAE right now with MBZ. We'll
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get all to that a little later in the show. Also, note, we're live streaming the Supreme Court
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hearing today on the 14th Amendment. Absolutely monumental. Grace is going to put that up on the
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other channels. We've got limited time. We have Senator Josh Hawley here. Senator Hawley,
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can you make your case? And I think, is anybody, are we now, are they disagreeing with you that
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they understand we've got to do this, but it's all about how it's managed, where these cuts are
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going to come from? Are they going to go back to the states? Is there, there's dumping ground on that?
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What's these work requirements? Is anybody, you think, pushing back on you about, we understand
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that, that MAGA, that Medicaid, because all the great jobs have been shipped overseas,
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that the working class, black, Hispanic, white, all depend upon, all depend upon Medicaid,
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and we can't abandon these people, as I think President Trump doesn't want to abandon them,
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sir? Yeah, that, you just said the most incredible, the most key thing, Steve, which is President
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Trump. I mean, they're not disagreeing with me, these Republicans who want to cut Medicaid.
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They're disagreeing with the president. He's the one who has said over and over and over,
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we're not going to cut Medicaid benefits to our people. I still think that, Steve, there's a lot
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of Republicans out there, it's the old establishment types, who want to slash this to the bone, and the
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problem is, these are many of the same people who have stood by while our jobs have gone overseas,
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while our towns have dried up and withered away. Now we've got people who cannot afford health
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insurance, and so they're forced onto Medicaid, and Republicans, our answer needs to be, we're going
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to stand by you if you're the working class. We're going to give you a tax cut. We're going to help
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your families. We're not going to throw you out in the cold, and so I just say to my Republican
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colleagues, look, you want to cut something? There's a lot to cut. Let's cut the Green New Deal
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garbage. Let's cut all those subsidies that go to China. Let's cut out the giveaways to Big Pharma.
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There's lots to cut. Let's not cut the working class.
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As you see it right now, are those issues you're bringing up, are they being addressed seriously in
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anything you're hearing from the House or your colleagues in the Senate? Well, I think it's too
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early to say, Steve. I mean, listen, I've got concerns with the bill that the House has passed
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out of committee. They obviously haven't passed the full thing yet. I think there's still a lot of
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cuts in there to Medicaid that will really hurt people, and to be more specific about it, they will
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hurt our people, and listen, I mean, in my state, we voted for Trump by 18, 19 points in the state of
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Missouri, but 21 percent of Missourians are on Medicaid, Steve, and that includes hundreds of thousands of
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children. These are Trump voters. These are working class people. These are people who have
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gotten screwed by globalism, by free trade, by everything Donald Trump ran against, and I'm
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not going to be a Republican who goes to them and says, hey, thank you for voting for us and trusting
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us, and now we're going to take away your health care. What could be more stupid than that? That's
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insane. That's why Trump is out there saying no benefit cuts. Republicans in Congress ought to listen
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to the president. Okay, Missouri's perfect because that is a MAGA state, and particularly a working
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class state. I know you stay very close to your constituents. Are you hearing from them directly,
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hey, we can't take these cuts, you can't do these cuts? Yes, I am, absolutely. In fact, I'll give you
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one example. Yesterday morning, a nurse in a small town in mid-Missouri, Appleton City is the name of the
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town, and we're talking just a few thousand people. She texted and she said, thank you for standing up
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against Medicaid benefit cuts if the Republicans in Congress, and she's a Trump voter, if Republicans
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in Congress, she said, do these big Medicaid benefit cuts, our hospital in this little town will shut
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down. We will not be able to provide health care. I mean, we just can't allow that to happen, Steve.
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These are our people. I keep saying that. I tell my colleagues that every day. We are the party of the
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working class. The working class of this country depends on the social insurance programs, not least
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because the globalists have gutted our working class economy. We've got to rebuild that economy,
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No, this is the part, this is the central beating heart of the Trump tariff and trade bill to reorganize
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commercial relations, bring those jobs back. What is it specifically in the House bill that you're
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saying, hey, I can't vote for, I won't vote for, and it has to be changed, that came out of committee
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on specifically Medicaid? Yeah, I think a couple things. Number one, I'm concerned about their
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messing around with the provider tax system. This will have a huge effect on rural hospitals in my
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state. We've lost so many rural hospitals in Missouri, Steve. I don't want to see any more
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loss in my state or any other state. Once again, rural America, these are our folks. We have got to
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take care of them. Number two, the House imposed what I call a sick tax, which is more penalties on
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working people when they go to the doctor. Now, before they can see the doctor, they got to pay
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more. They got to pay out of pocket a certain amount of money before they can even see the
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doctor. These are people who are already paying into Medicaid with their tax money. I just don't
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know why we do that. So listen, my view is this. Work requirements, absolutely. We ought to have tough
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work requirements of Medicaid. Anti-fraud provisions, you bet. Let's do all of that. But benefit cuts,
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cuts to rural hospitals, absolutely not. These work requirements also, correct me if I'm wrong,
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they don't kick in until President Trump's starting his fourth term. Is it 2029 actually
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what the House is coming up with? Yeah, that's something I don't understand, to be honest with
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you. The work requirements don't kick in for years and years. I mean, if you want to save money and you
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want to do right by this program, absolutely impose work requirements. If you're able-bodied,
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you ought to be working. The problem is, in states like mine and some of the other states,
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we got a whole bunch of people who are able-bodied. They are working, Steve, and they cannot afford
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health insurance. And so they're on Medicaid. Listen, people don't like being on Medicaid. You
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know that. I know that. They don't want their kids to be on it. They're on it because they don't have a
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choice. So my view is, absolutely, let's say to people, you need to work. Absolutely, let's impose
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tough anti-fraud requirements. Let's go in there and cut out the waste and the abuse. There's lots of that.
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But at the end of the day, if you are a working person and you're on Medicaid because you have to
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be, we need to give you a hand up. We need to protect you. We ought to be giving you a tax cut
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and helping to get a better job and better health insurance. We shouldn't be cutting those things out
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from underneath you. No, there's no, these are our people and nobody in MAGA wants to do this,
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to be on Medicaid. But the jobs that you can have, health insurance, are all gone. They shipped them
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overseas. Are you going to, the president thinks very highly of you. I know he's obviously in the
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Middle East trying to bring world peace. When he returns, are you going to try to get on his
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schedule? Because I'm not so sure that he understands the details right now of what's
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happening in the House and even what they're talking about in the Senate and these corporatists.
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As you know, he's anti-corporatist in this regard. He always wants to defend his people.
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Are you going to try to get on the schedule and sit down with him one-on-one and walk through
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these pieces you've been putting up in the Times and other places to go through the defense of the
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working class to follow along what he's been saying? Yeah, absolutely. And I regard this as
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I'm just echoing what he's saying. He and I've talked about this already multiple times, Steve,
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one-on-one, and he has told me multiple times he is absolutely opposed to Medicaid benefit cuts,
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that there will be no Medicaid benefit cuts. Nobody understands this better than him. He's gotten
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elected on it multiple times. So I know he'll be strong on this issue. I just keep saying to my
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congressional colleagues, come on, follow the president on this. Follow the guy who won the
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popular vote. Okay? Follow the guy who won the elections. He went out there. He is building a
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working class coalition. We've got to deliver for them. We don't want to go back to the days of
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Romney Ryan. How did that work out for the country? How did that work out for Republicans? Terrible for
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everybody. We don't, those days are over. We're not going back to that. We are a working class party.
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We've got to protect working class people. I know you've got to bounce, Senator. Where do people go for
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your social media and your website? Holly Moe. You can find me on X. You can find me on Instagram,
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all the social media, and I always love to hear from folks. Thank you, Senator. Appreciate you.
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Hey, thank you. The fight over the big, beautiful bill is going to be, we've got Dave Bratt up.
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Bratt, let me bring you in here for a minute. Your thoughts right there. You're down in rural
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Virginia and I would say God's country, but you're also a fire-breathing member of the House Freedom
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Caucus. How are we going to balance this? Because Holly's 100% right. The Medicaid thing is out of
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control in certain areas, there's no doubt. Yeah. What I'm seeing even in the Medicaid,
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like the work requirements, you have to have the work requirements. They got to be tough work
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requirements, but I hear that they're not even going to kick in for four years. So what's going on?
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What do you think that, what would the House Freedom Caucus counter to Senator Hawley be?
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I have no idea. I heard your interview with Senator Johnson yesterday too. Their response would be,
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we don't have time to do the work, right? Just like on Obamacare way back when, somebody's got to
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roll up their sleeves at some point. You just listed off all the relevant pieces. Even the work
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requirements that are required are not austere, right? And they allow substitutes of education
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time and this time in there, whatever. And those are the signs of a rich country, right? So
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the House would say, we need to find some cuts and we're going to go here. But they're not touching,
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as you just said, and as EJ just said, all the Green New Deal stuff, all the itemized deductions.
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We've added a trillion dollars on that. Then you got the salt piece going to the rich folks who have
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mismanaged states. And so it's just, they don't have the courage and the political will to cut what
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they need to cut. And we ought to be back to the $5 trillion range. Yeah. You're going to be with me
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this morning. We're going to go into this. You've got your charts. Great. So Supreme Court, historic day,
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arguing about birthright citizenship. Mike Davis is going to be here to explain. I'm going to try to get
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Josh Hammer on tonight to go through this. Terry Schilling's head's blown up on the big,
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stuff. We've got, Ed Luce is going to be on here in the new book about the National Security Advisor.
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This is big Brzezinski. That'll be later in the show. We're going to go through President Trump's
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triumphant tour of the Middle East continues. He's now in the United Arab Emirates with MBZ. I
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think the central player in the Middle East and what a day the president's already had.
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Tariff slump continues to rattle markets. We've seen dives and volatility rivaling the last two big
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crashes over COVID and the housing bubble. Trump now clashing with the Fed chair who gave him low
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grades for the tariff problems that Trump caused. And now there's a more stark comparison to America's
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Great Depression itself. The long lines, the run on the banks, that crash upended the economy and our
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society for years, driven by several factors, including failed tariffs. Now, if that comparison,
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if these visuals tonight seem almost too extreme to compare to the risks posed by the current market
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chaos, if the comparison of the food lines seems almost unfair to this administration, that comparison
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is based on monthly market data. This isn't like politics where words or comparisons are just sort of
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thrown about. Okay. Denver. Yeah, that's right. When I speak, it's like the voice of right there,
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Ari Melber, but that's nonstop on MSNBC. They're selling the Great Depression. I know it's great
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that we do the clips. We watch it so you don't have to. Dave Bratt. There's others that are economists
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on there saying it's a Great Depression. And look, we don't take the equity markets and all this as the
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as the end, all you guys know, but from the supposedly the April, mid-April, when they were
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screaming, this is the worst since the Great Depression markets back at four, the Dow's back
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at 42,000, a 10 year and a 10 year worry ought to be worried. And this is not about the tariffs.
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This is about the spending is almost 4.5 is 4.48. That's going to get people's attention and goals
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at 3,200 and been bouncing around. Bratt, walk me through. You've got your charts. Walk me through
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your analysis. People should know Bratt and I spend a lot of time as I do with all the contributors
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and other people between shows and afterwards. Bratt, you were a little rattled yesterday by Ron
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Johnson because Ron Johnson's an entrepreneur. He's not a lawyer. He came in for a reason. He's very focused
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on the business model of the United States. He's been very focused on debt and deficits. He's very
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focused on all this. Talk to me about you getting rattled by Ron Johnson saying, hey, we're adding
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$20 trillion on this path. We're going to add $20 trillion. We're going to be at $60 trillion
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before you know it. And then that's the end of the country, sir.
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You know, I get rattled when I hear men of character and he seems to have a religious sensibility
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to him. He's a man's man. And when you see a serious person of character like that
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get animated, you could tell. He's a truth teller and he's maintained his sanity in Wisconsin.
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But he just went through the litany of the hard work we have to do, right? The Inflation Reduction
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Act, we can't even get rid of Biden's policies. According to Cato, that thing hits $5 trillion
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by 2050. And I could go through the whole rest, but he is an entrepreneur. He's a business guy. He
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just says, you just go through the budget line by line by line. And we have another hero, Russ Vogt,
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who did precisely that. And he came up with over a trillion dollars in cuts by going line by line by
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line. And I think EJ or someone else said yesterday, these are things that if you cut,
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you wouldn't even know they're gone. And a lot of them hurt the American economy and hurt the
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middle class worker. And so hats off. Hawley's great. Senator Ron Johnson's great. We need more of
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them. We need more of them. And if the folks don't follow these type of leaders, then turf them out,
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turf them out coming up and replace them with some better fiscally responsible people who follow
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the Republican creed of all things. So tell me your overall sense right now, because I'm getting
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very worried. Terry Schilling is going to be in here in a little while about about like the sex
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change operation. It turns out they're all in this bill. The more I find out about it, the Republicans
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are having just a lack of courage of going in like these like on Medicaid. We are adamant you can't cut
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Medicaid for these working class people that have had their jobs shipped out and working class people
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have a lot of pride. They don't want to be on Medicaid. They have to. However, Medicaid is rife
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with fraud. It's rife with with incompetence. It's rife with all these bizarre rules. And you hear that
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even where we're arguing about it, the work requirements would have to be stringent, have to be
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tough, you know, particularly for the able bodied. And now we're hearing that they're not even going to be
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implemented until 2029. That kind of stuff is absurd. And people get upset when they hear it
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because they said, hey, I thought we were going to handle this appropriately. There's a great piece
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up, I think, in the Federalist I've got I've just put up on my getter about, you know, putting it back
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to the states actually likes to be managed better. But you got to make sure you're just not going to
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bury the states and something they can't can't afford. Why is it seems so much of this bill has got
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so much of the crap in there? They're not even going to codify, you know, Russ vote. Let's be
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blunt. We haven't seen the rescissions. This is nine billion dollars of rescissions, folks. It's
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nothing. This is two billion for PBS and NPR. And I think another seven billion of some of the stuff
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Doge found. They won't even put the rescissions. Why wouldn't they put it? They say there's no
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appetite for the Republicans to pass it. This is insanity. Nine billion dollars is a drop in a bucket.
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But it's symbolically meaningful. We were promised impoundments or rescissions. And they want to go
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the rescissions route because Graham and these guys in Congress say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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We need the executive branch to play ball with us. Let's do the rescissions where we're part of it.
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We can do those majority vote that won't get hung up with the 60 vote filibuster limit. Don't do the
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impoundments. Please don't go there. Don't let's test it in the court. And now, you know, the reason
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Russ and these guys haven't put it forward, they got the package ready, haven't put it forward because
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they can't pass it with a Republican majority in both houses. Dave Brat.
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Yeah, well, that's exactly right. And it's exactly also why when we talk to politics,
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the most important thing is missing, and that's communicating with the American people
00:22:59.580
and running on a contract that the American people love, like Trump did.
00:23:04.880
This bill they put together, they've just been relying. Everybody knows the trick that's up here,
00:23:09.960
right? This big, beautiful bill. The reason the House and the Senate won it was because it had
00:23:13.880
the imprimatur of President Trump coming in in the end and saying, look, we got to vote for this. So
00:23:19.060
they wanted to put so much pressure, just jam all the pork into this one giant big bill, run it,
00:23:25.360
run the clock out so you can't explain it. Dave Walsh did a great job yesterday on the politics of it,
00:23:31.300
right? The six senators on the green pork, Republicans, two of them in North Dakota,
00:23:37.980
et cetera. And that's, we don't have enough time to call everyone out. They're donors,
00:23:43.320
right? They're getting money. The nomenclature, when I was back in, I made reference to the giant
00:23:48.860
Excel spreadsheet in the sky. And that metaphor fits, right? We were trying to cut $40 billion we paid
00:23:55.600
to dead people. We couldn't cut that. Why is that? Listen to this next sentence, folks,
00:24:00.760
because here's your answer to the spending problem, because that $40 billion is already up
00:24:05.100
in the swamp. And if you take it out and give it back to the budget process to the American people,
00:24:11.780
it comes away from somebody, right? That's the key. That money goes away from a prospective donor or
00:24:18.700
someone who you've already made promises to. And that's all that's going on right here, right? And
00:24:23.940
from the defense down to the green, you're just seeing just politics, money and power
00:24:37.180
Talk to me. Give me, you've got some charts to go through. Let's go through them.
00:24:42.200
Yeah, well, you brought up, you know, this is the other thing. We're fighting against the mainstream
00:24:45.340
media. And so, you know, keep the ninth commandment in mind. I know morning Joe was a good Baptist,
00:24:51.200
went to Sunday school, but Joe, maybe you can tell us the ninth. It's do not lie. Don't bear
00:24:55.740
false witness. More on that in a minute. The media has been doing this. Yes, they've been lying. It's
00:25:01.560
just straight up lying. If we would just tell the truth, it would go a long way. So let me just get
00:25:07.260
here. Here's the lies. If you want to put up the first chart, they're making reference to the
00:25:12.020
stock market. S&P 500 falling like the Great Depression. Here's the Great Depression for you,
00:25:19.060
right? That's what a stock market looks like. Down by 1932. You see it starting at the peak in
00:25:26.720
1929. Down to less than one-fifth of the 1929 peak, an 80% loss. One-fifth down at the bottom
00:25:37.360
of the Great Depression. That's a Great Depression. There's your stock market. Now they're going to
00:25:42.620
compare it to today's stock market. Next chart, Denver, to the Trump tariff thing. Here's the,
00:25:49.140
on the far left, there's 1929 with a real plunge, right? That's what a depression looks like. The
00:25:54.560
blue line going straight down the far left. To the far, far right, you'll see the graph going
00:26:00.840
down just a smidgen. That's the Trump tariff thing, and the markets have already made up the ground.
00:26:07.480
And again, as you said, Steve, we're not hanging our hat on the market. The market goes up and down,
00:26:12.860
and Trump's accomplishing some things with a real economy that might cause a little turbulence in
00:26:18.140
the short run. But the next chart shows it even more clear. This is the same thing. This is the
00:26:22.660
S&P 500 on the far left. There's your Great Depression. That's what a depression looks like.
00:26:27.320
This is what the mainstream media, Ari Melbourne was there, and the whole host of them, all the leftists,
00:26:32.540
the Bloombergs, the CNNs, we're all making this point. To the far right, go to the far, far right,
00:26:38.780
you'll see the COVID red spike going way down. That's the market tanking. To the far, far, far
00:26:45.100
right, the effect of the Trump tariffs, you can't see because it's so small, it doesn't even show up
00:26:49.800
on the chart. You can go out to Market Watch. We've hit some air pockets, definitely. We've
00:27:03.700
hit some air pockets. In 2008, you had the pandemic. You've hit some air pockets, not equivalent to
00:27:09.040
obviously the Great Depression, but you've hit some air pockets. That's going to happen. That's
00:27:14.580
what markets are for, to correct. But this thing was a blip. It was a blip. And remember,
00:27:21.520
for an entire week, Stephanie Rule, every night, you know, she's sucking on the stem of the glasses,
00:27:28.560
and you've got all the big thinkers around her, and it's worse than the Great Depression. It's
00:27:33.580
1930, since April of 1932, have you seen this? And they're smart. They're lying. They're smart.
00:27:40.340
Yeah. Good. Dave, Brad, we're going to book you on Stephanie Rule. The first thing you're
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going to say is the Ninth Commandment, that thou shall not bear false witness.
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I want to talk. I got Brat. Brat, I need you to hear this, right? So I got Schilling, and Schilling's
00:30:55.260
hair's on fire all night going through this bill, and this is the kind of thing, the games have got to
00:31:00.520
stop here. Talk to me about the sex change. The sex change operations, this is a foundational element
00:31:07.440
of why Trump won culturally, right? That nobody, particularly working class black men and Hispanic
00:31:16.480
men, didn't know this stuff was going on about their kids, or they knew it about being dictated
00:31:20.580
to, but it could change, and President Trump's changing it by getting the woke and weaponized
00:31:24.120
out. However, there's still this whole thing about sex changes. I thought this was verboten.
00:31:30.280
This was done. I don't even know why we're having this conversation. Schilling, tell me what's
00:31:34.780
in the big, beautiful bill. So we've got a partial win here. We've got a partial win, which we need
00:31:41.040
full wins. The partial win here is that Congress has cut federal funding for sex change procedures
00:31:48.040
for minors, right? So they're limiting it at 18 and younger. They're not going to get a funded sex
00:31:53.940
change procedure. The thing is, it's unpopular to fund any sex change procedure. We need the defund to
00:32:00.520
apply to everyone. No one should be having their sex change procedure paid for by you,
00:32:06.900
me, or my grandma, or my mom, or anyone. Everyone, if you want to get a sex change, first of all,
00:32:12.400
you shouldn't be able to get one if you're a kid. Every American is against that. That's a 90-10 issue.
00:32:16.860
But when it comes to the taxpayer funding of it, no American wants a single penny to go towards
00:32:23.340
these procedures. Full stop, because I can tell the audience's heads are blowing up already.
00:32:29.240
Are you telling me that there's even the concept that taxpayer dollars are going to go to continue
00:32:39.140
to fund these sex change operations for folks that have issues? Are you telling me that right now,
00:32:48.560
and voted out of putting forward in this bill by Republicans or funding of sex change operations
00:32:55.840
for anything but kids? The prohibition on taxpayer funding for sex changes only applies to those 18
00:33:04.280
and younger. It needs to apply to everyone for so many reasons, right? This, Steve, the ad that they,
00:33:11.020
them ad that attacked Kamala for funding sex change procedures for federal inmates, that ad was seen
00:33:16.160
more times by more people and was the most remembered ad in all of the Democrats after
00:33:21.520
action focus groups. This is a powerful issue. Americans are taxed enough. We have $37 trillion
00:33:28.160
in debt. We have to balance this budget. And you can't tell me you're serious about balancing the
00:33:33.200
budget if you won't even stop paying for adults and oftentimes mentally ill adults to sterilize them
00:33:40.520
and mutilate them. This is absolutely, first of all, just from a fiscal sanity standpoint,
00:33:45.240
we shouldn't be paying for this. But from a morality standpoint, we shouldn't be harming people by
00:33:50.640
sterilizing and mutilating them with our tax dollars. It makes us all culpable. This is an absolute mess.
00:33:56.520
But we, what I said earlier is right. We have a partial win right now, but we need a full win. We have
00:34:01.900
$37 trillion in debt. We have Congress, both houses. Why are we giving the Democrats any,
00:34:07.900
any support, any leeway? No one wants these things funded with our tax dollars. They, they did,
00:34:13.520
I will tell you, full disclosure, they differentiate on the prohibition of this. They
00:34:18.060
only want to ban these sex change procedures for minors. Americans think, you know, if you're an adult
00:34:22.220
and you want to do this stuff, fine. But when it comes to who's paying for it, we don't want to pay for
00:34:27.080
it. No one does. What, what Republican though, in these committees, what's the justification
00:34:33.680
for doing something that Democrats, because these are all Democrat constituents. What's,
00:34:38.560
what's the, what's the logic? Why are we caving on this? They're, they're not giving any logic.
00:34:44.060
It's all silence. It's all rumors. It's, um, uh, who is it? It's Brian Fitzpatrick. The guys that
00:34:49.580
are rumored right now are Brian Fitzpatrick. Um, and, uh, oh my gosh, I'm blanking. Mike Lawler from
00:34:55.140
New York. Those are the two guys that are giving the most grief in the caucus meetings. Uh, we don't
00:35:00.260
know. They're not, here's the thing though, Steve, that they're not talking about by limiting it to
00:35:04.140
minors. They're actually opening up the entire prohibition of taxpayer funding to get struck
00:35:09.320
down by the parliamentarian parliamentarian can actually say, this is too much policy. So I'm
00:35:14.720
going to get nerdy on you. And it's good thing Dave Brad's on. Yeah. So it has to be germane to the
00:35:20.380
fiscal nature of the bill. This is a reconciliation bill. It's a funding bill.
00:35:23.780
So if you only ban it for children, the parliamentarian can actually say,
00:35:28.240
actually, this has to get struck out because you're making a policy decision.
00:35:32.020
You have to strike it out and say that the federal government can't afford this for anyone.
00:35:35.340
Because if you say you can afford it for adults, why can't you afford it for minors?
00:35:39.300
That's a morality. That's a, that's a, that's a policy decision.
00:35:42.400
We've got to strike it for everyone to save money and to save people.
00:35:45.780
These people are mentally ill. They need real help. They need to sit down with a counselor
00:35:49.600
and accept their bodies and get rid of this self-hatred that they're suffering from.
00:35:55.500
No, no, no. It's, this is a huge, um, where do people go to get you over at American principles?
00:36:01.620
What you guys are working on your social media? How do they get in? I don't want people go to the
00:36:04.960
ramparts yet. I want to get all the information and then we're going to do a formal, you know,
00:36:09.380
you got to get rid of this, but where do they go to get more information on this? Cause I can tell
00:36:12.600
the audience's heads are already blowing up, sir. Uh, go to, just follow me on Twitter. I'll be
00:36:18.600
posting updates all day. It's shilling 1776 across all major platforms, but just go to X cause that's
00:36:24.280
where I'm going to be posting most of the things. But this is more than just going after Lawler
00:36:28.740
and, uh, was it Fitzpatrick? You've really got to get to the committee, right? Eventually to get
00:36:33.580
this out, you got to get to the committee. Am I, do I take that correctly? Yeah, no, that's right.
00:36:38.400
We've got to get, but those are the, there's like 10 members. We, we've been directing our
00:36:42.820
activists to light their phones up. Uh, so if you sign up and get engaged, go, Oh, actually,
00:36:47.320
you don't go to American principles, project.org sign up. We'll get you directed to the right
00:36:51.720
people to call. We have 10 members that we're targeting, uh, to get this over the finish line,
00:36:55.700
but, um, yeah, 10 members. Um, if you, if you get this, I tell you what, after you get off,
00:37:01.360
get that to grace. Also we'll get the bill blast a crew up on top of this to the war posse. So,
00:37:06.240
okay, great, great work. We'll get to stay. This is the kind of thing Trump doesn't know about.
00:37:10.720
If you told Trump this right now, you go, are you crazy? What are you doing? It's right.
00:37:15.000
Steve, it's what he won the last election on. He won the last election on this. This is what put
00:37:19.440
him over the finish line. What are we doing here? It's terrible. It's terrible. Terry Schilling,
00:37:24.240
you're the best. Thanks, Steve. Brat, your thoughts. How does this happen, brother?
00:37:29.940
Yeah, it's just an abomination. I mean, try running this by the Muslims or the Hindus or
00:37:37.920
the Confucians. Uh, you get laughed out of the room. It's just a straight up attack on the Judeo
00:37:43.860
Christian West. Uh, it's just the slow decay. Uh, it's a lack of strength and courage, just like
00:37:50.540
in the budget process. Uh, the decay of the U S is, is mainly from moral weakness. And this is the
00:37:58.140
clearest sign, right? This is a 90, 10 issue. I think Terry Schilling said that in the past,
00:38:02.380
it's a 90, 10 issue and we're getting rolled. And, and so it's, it's just gotta stop. You know,
00:38:08.780
we just need a Senate and a house full of Americans who love this country because
00:38:13.880
this is not compatible. It's, it's, it's like you've been saying, right? I, a lot of poor people
00:38:18.800
can't get, uh, procedures for healthcare. They got dying kids and we're paying for this. I mean,
00:38:24.520
that that's the proper moral juxtaposition. What there's only one reason we're doing this
00:38:29.660
and it's because the left is trying to tear down our culture. That's what's going on.
00:38:33.580
But, but in, in the big, because it's a big, beautiful bill, let's be honest as an omnibus,
00:38:37.960
what, what needs to happen is they need to be going through this, like a Sith through grass to get out
00:38:45.280
all of this broken weaponized to get all they, we need to get every single penny. That's absolutely not
00:38:52.600
necessary for either the United States or America or American citizens. It's got to come out now.
00:38:59.320
We, we've got to get, we've got to get on the glide slope from the six and a half percent,
00:39:03.600
uh, deficit to GDP to three and a half percent. We're not doing that. The only way that it's
00:39:08.080
going to happen right now in this thing is gimmicks. We got to get rid of the gimmicks and
00:39:12.160
to know that this is in there. And then when you know, this is in there, the bill's going to be
00:39:16.220
9,000 pages long. You just realize how, how are we supposed to go through all 9,000 pages?
00:39:20.660
And that we have people doing that, but you sit there and go, Hey, we got you guys in here
00:39:26.200
and now we have to police you that you, that you didn't just zero out this funding or something
00:39:32.340
that's so outrageous. Cause there's going to be a lot of other stuff in there that's less
00:39:37.040
outrageous, but has to go anyway. The mindset, and this is what Johnson as the entrepreneur
00:39:42.280
and Holly, I can tell you up here, people, uh, are shocked about the lack of urgency of this
00:39:49.940
problem that the people that should be the leadership are just sitting here and thinking,
00:39:54.760
Oh, it's in the 10 year bond market. Tell us 4.48. They're going to have a say, so in this,
00:39:59.300
the global bond market is going to have a say, so because right now, remember your entire life,
00:40:05.100
your car loan, your, uh, mortgage, right? Your credit cards, everything's predicated as you've
00:40:12.560
learned here in the worm off the 10 year treasury. And guess what? It's going up. It's not because of
00:40:18.140
Trump's trade and tariff. That is not why it's happening. It's going up because the market sense
00:40:24.260
there's not discipline of the political class here on Capitol Hill to address these issues day, Brett.
00:40:30.040
Yeah. Well, uh, if you want me to hit the last couple charts real quick, it ties exactly into
00:40:37.540
the bond market. Yeah. Yeah. Go next chart, uh, Denver, while they're pulling it up, I might just
00:40:42.300
add to the, uh, lying part, Ananias and Sapphira in the new Testament, Acts five killed for lying.
00:40:48.640
Elisha crushes, Jeremiah condemns, uh, Jesus Christ says, uh, hell for those who do continued
00:40:55.160
unrepentant lying. And so when it comes to continued unrepentant lying, here's more of it.
00:41:01.380
This is back from 14, 2014, uh, there was a taper, the federal reserve taper threatening to just slow
00:41:08.420
down the creation and printing of money just a teeny bit. And just on the announcement effect,
00:41:13.600
uh, the stock market goes down as on that, on that graph on the red, uh, the black one,
00:41:20.040
the super dive is the great depression. And back in 14, they said the same thing.
00:41:24.040
This is just like the great depression, except it wasn't next chart. Here's another chart that
00:41:28.840
aligns that, uh, accurately, this is the same as the last graph. It's just how statistics can lie.
00:41:33.960
The red line is a great depression. The 2014 taper tantrum, uh, is below it. It goes down a little
00:41:40.840
bit, uh, and then it recovered, uh, just kind of like with the, uh, Trump tariff, uh, graph. Uh,
00:41:46.380
and, uh, that that's the story, right? The lying just never, ever ends it. It, it, it, uh,
00:41:53.140
and, and this brings us back to the 0708, uh, federal reserve story where all, uh, they started
00:42:00.560
printing, adding $3 trillion, uh, to their, uh, balance sheet. Uh, and then we got addicted,
00:42:07.460
uh, to the low interest rate, zero interest rates for a decade. Uh, and then wall street got addicted
00:42:13.320
and we pumped up and formed another bubble, the stock market bubble again. Uh, and that we're trying
00:42:19.780
to break free from that. And the only way to do that is with the improvements in the real economy
00:42:24.940
that Trump's bringing, uh, to capital investment, not the stock market, real, not financial capital,
00:42:31.200
real working capital in the hands of the American worker that lifts their wages. And so the lying,
00:42:36.880
uh, in the mainstream media, uh, has to stop. Uh, we need to get the, this show is the best news
00:42:43.140
show and everyone needs to spread it. Uh, but that it's serious matters, uh, that the press just
00:42:48.600
gets away with murder on these stories. It's just like the great depression. It is nothing of the
00:42:53.120
sort. Uh, and we've got to stop it on the war room. Um, they're not going to stop lying because
00:43:00.540
they've got an agenda. You know, they've got an agenda. The, the, what we have to do is continue
00:43:04.600
to pound them with the truth, the counter, you know, the counter counterfactual, which is what
00:43:09.300
you come up with the charts and the analysis we do. The one thing we know is that we need,
00:43:14.600
uh, supply side tax cuts and the supply side tax cuts to be made permanent. We need tax cuts for
00:43:20.940
the middle class and the working class, and we need those to be made permanent. We also need no
00:43:27.120
tax on tips, no tax on, um, overtime and no tax on social security. I don't see the social security.
00:43:32.700
I see a workaround. I just don't see the no tax on it. Short break.
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charts you want to go through. They're quite important in your journey as a truth teller,
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sir. Yes, yes. I do my best. I'm flawed as well. But there are brothers over there at the
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Catholic Wall Street Journal who are in company with the charts I just put up prior are having a
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problem with the truth, too. The Catholics are familiar with the sins of commission, but also the
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sins of omission, as you'll see on the chart right here. The only time the Wall Street Journal
00:47:42.460
seems to have any attention paid to or analysis on spending is when they're trying to hit President
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Trump or Elon Musk. So here they have an article called See How Government Spending Is Up Even As
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Musk Touts Savings. They have not trained their eyes or given any recommendations of the $7 trillion
00:48:02.540
that can be cut in their paper over the past year that I've seen. But this does. They have provided
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the receipts on one thing. The spending is up more this year than it was last year. This is, of course,
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incumbent on Congress. Congress is responsible for the budget process. And so, you know, light them up.
00:48:23.840
Light them up. The Congress is not doing their job. The total spending is way up. And it's an
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embarrassment. And as Steve has said, there are going to be grave economic consequences. Not only
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the bond market, but also the real economy. All this $7 trillion is siphoned away from the real
00:48:41.620
economy, right? That used to be econ 101 macro, right? Just the tradeoffs. If you get more government
00:48:47.880
spending sucks the energy out of capital investment, out of the economy, and you get anemic economic
00:48:53.980
growth. And that's why CBO says we're going to have growth at 2% for the next 30 years. So the left
00:49:00.980
can spin and dance and talk about the stock market, the Great Depression, all they want. They can't
00:49:05.380
answer. Wall Street Journal, where's your analysis? Why is the economy going to grow at 2% for the next
00:49:11.120
30 years? Dear Wall Street Journal, you're much smarter than me. So, I mean, I'm dying to hear these
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answers. All right, let's hit immigration for a little bit. Compliments of Rosemary Jenks at
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Immigration Accountability Project. Please support them. Immigration Accountability Project. Go out
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and this is the only group in the country that is taking it to the Congress, right? Instead of
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listening to their donors, they're trying to put pressure on the Congress to get things right
00:49:44.100
with immigration. What's wrong with immigration? Denver, if you want to put up the next chart,
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these are H-1B visa numbers for FY 2026, and they're still way too high, way too big. And so
00:49:57.280
what's going wrong here? Congress sets the caps for H-1B visas. So this is Congress's fault. So their
00:50:04.400
issuance is essentially on autopilot. U.S. CIS Customs Immigration is required to comply with this
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law. So Congress has to change this law. Okay, we're going to get Rosemary Jenks to deal with
00:50:19.520
something else today. We're going to get back to this. In a time where they're having mass layoffs
00:50:24.620
in tech, coupled with AI coming in and going to take off all the entry-level jobs, AI is going to
00:50:33.420
eviscerate the entry-level of the STEM and learn to code. They've approved 135,000 H-1Bs. Well,
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guess what? This is not going to happen. We're going to light up every member in this that supports
00:50:50.180
this. This is outrageous. Here's how many H-1B visas we need this year. Zero. In fact,
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if you look at that chart, everyone that's been issued has to be unissued. Everybody's got to go
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home, and every one of those billets has to be replaced by an American citizen. They cannot show
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you one example of a billet that someone's in that billet has better education or better experience
00:51:19.880
than an American for that billet. The reason they're doing this is they're paying these people 50% less.
00:51:27.560
And they're working them 20 hours a day, seven days a week as indentured servants,
00:51:32.120
which essentially they are. This is an outrage. This is how Congress and big tech is out to screw
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the American worker and these kids that work forever to get through school, get through college,
00:51:46.520
high school, just focused on computer science, electrical engineering, these type of engineering,
00:51:52.260
and then you can't get a job because the industry is going through a downturn and artificial intelligence
00:51:58.020
is kind of thing. Dave, Brad, where do people go to get you, sir?
00:52:02.520
Yeah. And at a minimum, anyone that's hiring in the tech field should be barred from anyone that's
00:52:09.820
laying off tech workers should not have any access to H-1B. Dave, Brad on X. I want to thank also
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Heather Cross, and she's having me out to Indianapolis for the Indy 500 at the First
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Principles Forum. FirstPrinciplesForum.org. If you want to come out to Indianapolis and hear me
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at the Lucas Estate, quite a beautiful place, come join us.
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Okay. The engine room is telling me that Dave Brad should be over at the comms department and the
00:52:36.760
treasury department. What do you say, war room posse? Would we give up Brad for that? I think we would.
00:52:42.560
We wouldn't give him up easy, but I think we would. Liberty, I think he would serve his nation.
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Dave Brad, we love you, brother. Don't ever change.
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