Bannon's War Room - May 22, 2025


Episode 4505: Hostage Situation In The FBI; Exclusive With Russ Vought


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

177.75233

Word Count

9,830

Sentence Count

784

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

Alex Jones joins Stephen Kamb to discuss the Jeffrey Epstein case, the Democratic response to the Epstein scandal, and why we should all be worried about what s going on in Washington, D.C. and around the world.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 You know what, Maria? Cash is not kidding. We've been personally briefed extensively on every single
00:00:08.980 detail, nugget, tendril of this case. One is actively in court right now, so out of respect
00:00:15.400 for the case, it's probably more appropriate that I stay quiet on that. However, I'm not going to
00:00:21.400 tell people what they want to hear. I'm going to tell you the truth, and whether you like it or not
00:00:25.120 is up to you, if there was a big explosive there there, right, given my history as a Secret Service
00:00:31.460 agent and my personal friendship as a director does with the president, give me one logical,
00:00:37.880 sensible reason we would not have. If you can think of one, there isn't. There isn't. In some of these
00:00:44.020 cases, the there you're looking for is not there, and I know people, I get it. I understand. It's
00:00:51.020 not there. If it was there, we would have told you. You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.
00:00:59.720 People don't believe it. Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion, but as someone
00:01:05.540 who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor, who's been in that prison system, who's been in the
00:01:10.300 Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing, you know a suicide when you
00:01:15.420 see one, and that's what that was. He killed himself. Again, you want me to, I've, I've seen
00:01:22.100 the whole file. He killed himself. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies,
00:01:33.180 because we're going medieval on these people. Here's one time I got a free shot, all these networks
00:01:38.380 lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.
00:01:43.820 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's
00:01:46.960 going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my
00:01:54.020 soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what
00:02:00.660 is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host,
00:02:10.200 Stephen K. Band.
00:02:13.820 Thursday, 21 May, year of order, 2025. By the way, for the War Room Posse, I know we're going to get,
00:02:20.620 we're going to walk, work through the bill. We're going to get organized. I understand. Look,
00:02:24.160 one of the things that jumps out at me, there's no tax on social security. Didn't see that.
00:02:29.700 I missed that. They've got a little relief, and I think it works out to 500 bucks. We'll figure it
00:02:35.380 all out. But this thing's got, we got to go through it. We're going to get organized. So just
00:02:40.020 keep digging. But this thing's a long way from over. Alex Jones joins me. We've got a lot to go
00:02:47.600 through today, Alex, and I want your thoughts on kind of where we stand. But if you look at
00:02:51.540 President Trump's trying to end the kinetic part of the Third World War, right? And he, you know,
00:02:57.720 from Russian rapprochement to the situation in Ukraine, which is part of that, to the, you know,
00:03:02.860 Israel wants to bomb the Persians like tomorrow night. President Trump's trying to lay hands on
00:03:08.920 all that. You've got the big, beautiful bill has the $170 billion in it, I think, for $150 billion to
00:03:15.160 deport the 13 million illegal aliens here, that the courts are forcing us into a constitutional
00:03:21.320 crisis of which we're hurtling towards. And then if you look in the middle of what the,
00:03:25.680 if you look at the, you know, redoing all the commercial relationships in the world and how
00:03:30.180 the budget is and how it's going to be financed, all of it. And of course, the bond market's not
00:03:33.740 exactly high-fiving us right now, but people were going to work through all this. The one aspect
00:03:38.380 that's continued to concern me, and now you've got this whole Biden situation, is that whole other
00:03:44.920 thing of taking down the administrative state, which Doge started, right? Although the Congress
00:03:50.200 has still not codified the cuts, you know, the cuts and the ways for an abuse. But even more
00:03:54.740 importantly, it's taking on the deep state. Now, two close friends of yours and mine and colleagues
00:04:00.520 and people that we respect and pushed hard for this job, Dan Bongino and Kash Patel, two of the best
00:04:07.180 of the best. You know, I couldn't understand when I saw that until I read your text and said,
00:04:12.140 it looked like a hostage video. And I go, Alex Jones nailed it again. That's exactly what it is.
00:04:18.560 In fact, I went back to make sure that Dan and Kash were not blinking their eyes and I missed the
00:04:23.480 Morse code. What's going on, brother? You've got, you've got a better, you've been working this beat
00:04:29.040 for a long time. What is your assessment right now of how, because I tell you, when they steal it in
00:04:35.300 28 and they're going to try to steal it in 28, everybody's going to prison unless this,
00:04:40.500 unless this deep state's taken apart, because these people are vicious. Where do you think
00:04:45.500 we stand right now on coming up on Memorial Day weekend, four or five months into the second term
00:04:52.000 here, sir?
00:04:52.460 On the broad strokes of policy, winning the trade war, ending our long surrender to the
00:05:01.920 globalist system, effectively getting us out of the World Trade Organization, taking our power back,
00:05:06.500 really starting to wind down these planetary wars that threaten our very existence, on securing the
00:05:14.220 border, on getting trillions of dollars of investment to come in, on relaunching love of our country,
00:05:21.460 on stopping the globalist demoralization of the population. When it comes to yesterday with
00:05:28.560 the South African racist president who claims he doesn't know anything about targeting white farmers
00:05:33.880 or killing or protecting their land, and then just showing it all in his face. I mean, this is a
00:05:39.080 masterclass in how to smash the gaslighters. But when it comes to the infrastructure and the
00:05:46.460 bureaucracy and the permanent state, I would give Trump a C-, but that's because of how dug in it is
00:05:54.800 and how hard these people are fighting back and how arrogant they are, but also because it's an
00:06:00.780 existential threat for them if we continue to win. So we're winning, but in the first 123 days or so,
00:06:08.040 24 days, you see that massive momentum starting to slow in some areas, and that's very, very concerning.
00:06:16.140 And we see Moody's trying to lower the U.S. credit rating and then trying to lower U.S. bank credit rating
00:06:22.600 because the globalists are so desperate to, you know, to stop Trump's, you know, incredible so far victories
00:06:28.140 and getting most of the planet to realign with us. It's not, it's just not about trade, obviously.
00:06:32.360 It's about alliances ending the neoliberal globalist order. That'll never get back into power again.
00:06:40.200 But in pockets around the world, like here in the U.S., if they're able to at least get control of the
00:06:44.640 executive branch again, they are going to not just come for Steve Bannon and Donald Trump and his
00:06:49.520 family and Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson. They're going to come for the entire country as they've said
00:06:54.500 they would do. And as they were going to do, they were able to put Kamala in. So this is really
00:06:59.080 an existential threat, as you said. And I really like Dan Bongino. I really like Kosh Patel.
00:07:05.300 But recent statements that, oh, Jeffrey Epstein killed himself when it would take an hour to go
00:07:11.540 over the evidence. Obviously, he didn't. It's ridiculous. Neck broken three times. That's the
00:07:14.680 coroner. And all the rest of it, cameras turned off on and on and on. And then to add insult to injury,
00:07:19.620 oh, and we've seen all the evidence from Butler and Crooks, and it's open and shut. Nothing else
00:07:26.020 happened here. Bare minimum, Secret Service stand down. The FBI trying to cover up the
00:07:30.300 investigation until Kosh and Bongino got in. And then there's so many facets to it. I've
00:07:37.380 interviewed the private investigators that have been on the ground, very respected, I've
00:07:41.220 known for decades, like Hagman, where they got threatened on the ground by FBI to get out
00:07:45.940 of here when they were there for months. So we know the whole background of Crooks and his
00:07:51.500 house being basically completely clean, no utensils, nothing. His phone being at this
00:07:56.760 law enforcement training center with the geolocation being around the FBI building. I mean, he's
00:08:02.120 on top of the building taking the shot for 10 minutes with people saying, shooter, shooter,
00:08:07.000 shooter, shooter, nothing being done. You got Bongino for months and months and months in
00:08:11.880 July rightfully saying this is a cover up. And then 180. And then the body language, which
00:08:18.060 almost makes it enduring when they're being deceptive, and we all know they are, for whatever
00:08:21.920 reason, they look like, in fact, I was going to say that, like in the Korean War or in the
00:08:26.640 Vietnam War conflicts, when they would shoot down our fighter pilots or fighter bombers,
00:08:31.680 and then the famous cases of them doing Morse code when they'd been tortured and forced to
00:08:36.000 say horrible things about America and their mission. They were Morse coding, torture, torture,
00:08:39.560 torture. Younger generations won't know what Steve was talking about, but I'm old enough to
00:08:43.200 remember that. And so that's where we are. And so I don't want to cry foul on these guys. I'm a big
00:08:50.260 booster of the administration. I'm giving them time. You know, you can always get clicks if you
00:08:54.140 sit there and criticize things. A lot of folks do that. We've seen in the Biden situation, you've
00:08:58.360 seen the Praetorian Guard where they had this information in 2019 on the laptop from hell. We
00:09:03.260 had Rudy on here. I was on the laptop from hell team that pushed it out. They had it. Ray and Barr had
00:09:08.860 it in November of 19. They wanted Biden. That's what they're protecting. You've done more than
00:09:14.060 anybody to describe the elements of DOD, CIA, DNI, Department of Justice, FBI, elements of DHS and
00:09:22.160 HHS have formed a cabal of a Praetorian Guard of a deep state. It exists. It's categorical. To the
00:09:30.020 degree, it's C minus. President Trump can't do everything, right? Do we need a special prosecutor?
00:09:35.600 What is Alex Jones's recommendation to take down the deep state? We have only a couple of years to
00:09:42.680 do it. And they're dug in because they run the most powerful apparatus in mankind's history, sir.
00:09:49.820 Well, remember the FBI head in New York that they made resign when he had the Epstein files
00:09:54.180 when they, Kosh did, you know, raid him a day after they refused to release him. He said,
00:09:59.040 we're dug in. We're in a war. We're Marines fighting Trump. I mean, it's, it's, they need to indict that
00:10:04.360 guy. I mean, that is serious. And we need, and I know they got the report coming out on Afghanistan
00:10:08.800 and that withdrawal. We need to get that commission and court marshals going of a million others. It's
00:10:14.300 all cut and dry. We need prosecutions now. And you're the expert on that. We need those mechanisms
00:10:19.600 now. And we have to start going after these people. Now we're starting to see corrupt Congress people
00:10:24.000 arrested. We're starting to see corrupt judges that hide illegal alien gangbangers being arrested.
00:10:28.880 And so, so I'm, and we're seeing Tom Homan scale up and accelerate the amount of deportation. So
00:10:34.060 overall, I give Trump an A plus, but you're absolutely right. He was elected the captain
00:10:39.680 of the ship, as Elon Musk said, as you've said, but he has about half the crew that is mutinous. I
00:10:45.240 mean, half of them wouldn't even respond to the Doe's email saying, what's five things you did last
00:10:48.480 week and who is your boss? And so Trump has to crack the whip with all of these people. You know,
00:10:54.020 Trump wants to know what happened, uh, Ian Butler. Uh, Trump wants to know what happened
00:10:59.580 in Mar-a-Lago with the shooter, but notice the FBI was covering that up according to the state
00:11:03.580 police in Florida. Now it seems to be going on. And I've talked to some high level prosecutors
00:11:08.400 over the weekend and asked them what they thought about all this. And they said, listen,
00:11:12.240 we got to pick our battles. And, uh, you know, certain issues that were run by professional
00:11:18.000 crooks like Comey are so hard to penetrate and would take everything we've got. We're moving to hit
00:11:24.000 the low level and mid-level to make them turn state's evidence very, very soon. I know you
00:11:28.820 talk to a lot of high level sources and president all the time. I talk to some of the top prosecutors,
00:11:33.340 uh, and, uh, you know, they said that's, that that's going on. They also reached out to me to say,
00:11:37.360 we know about what happened to you. So not to write myself into the story, you've been persecuted
00:11:42.060 more, but, uh, three days after Trump got in, I was sent by the FBI, a part of my file where Obama,
00:11:48.960 right when Comey got in in 2013, declared me a top national security threat. I put these documents out
00:11:53.940 months ago. I got them like three weeks after Trump was in just, I got a call. Hey, look in
00:11:59.260 your PO box. It, you know, it came from the FBI and it was, uh, the Boston field office. So back to
00:12:04.460 Mueller as well, um, putting me under national security threat, which is an ongoing, not just
00:12:09.600 criminal investigation, but a full on secret sanction operation of debanking, harassment,
00:12:15.720 demonization, uh, human intelligence, attempted infiltrators, lawsuits, uh, deplatforming.
00:12:22.020 And so I was the beta test along with general Flynn and you, and they bragged about this
00:12:27.620 on MSNBC. They've, you know, they've had their top lawyers that have engineered it all
00:12:30.820 brag. How once we get Jones, Bannon and others, we're going to get Tucker Carlson,
00:12:35.080 then we're going to get Trump. And, and, and so now more of this has come out now, uh, you
00:12:40.060 know, Comey's got his new book out, which they even admit the bad guy that must be put in prison,
00:12:44.660 uh, the talk show host, uh, by the FBI is based on the evil Alex Jones. So they are obsessed with
00:12:51.500 you and I particularly, uh, because we see right through them and we just have to be as intense
00:12:56.760 as possible with the, not just Trump and his, and his, and his, his crew, but with the general
00:13:03.020 public, this is not a normal election, not a normal neocon we got in. This is the real revolution
00:13:09.520 against the globalist. And there is no election cycle. This is full on information war here on
00:13:15.920 out. People better be marching, demonstrating, uh, spreading information online, donating,
00:13:20.980 uh, supporting the sponsors of all the most hardcore on point shows. And when a broadcast
00:13:25.480 and news organization like the war room, or like what I do at info or is under attack, it is an absolute
00:13:31.100 must to push everything we do like it's a war because it is. And I'm not trying to say, Hey,
00:13:37.400 promote us. That's the answer. But it is boost everything. Trump's doing boost everything you're
00:13:42.120 doing. Cause look, listen, we're weeks into the media going corporate media. Oh, look,
00:13:46.220 we're selling books and Oh, the Democrats covered up. He was sick Biden. And he was a near vegetable
00:13:50.700 that we already knew that we don't need them to tell us that we knew that five, six years ago,
00:13:54.540 but when he was first running, we said, Biden's got serious problems. They've diverted from the auto
00:13:59.060 pin, the committee run by Obama that was really ruling the country illegally. They stole the 2020,
00:14:03.980 but you can debate that all day. The evidence is there, but you can't debate
00:14:07.140 that Biden didn't know he signed the ban on liquid natural gas and all the rest of it.
00:14:11.120 And so everything he did was illegitimate. And Trump is hammering that and saying,
00:14:14.400 I want indictments of the treasonous thugs, close quote, that, that, that ran a coup.
00:14:19.280 And that's what it is. So Trump gets it. His instincts are on target. You're on target.
00:14:25.540 I'm on target. A few others are on target. And that's why we're under attack. Whatever's
00:14:30.340 under attack, whatever's getting the flack is over the damn target. And we need to get
00:14:34.420 damn serious about this. And Trump needs to come out with televised national addresses
00:14:38.640 and say, we must arrest the criminals that did all of this, or, uh, it is, they're going
00:14:44.720 to stage false flags. They're getting ready for mass riots this summer. They've been gearing
00:14:48.300 up for it is on. Yeah. Alex, hang on one second. We're taking a short commercial break. Alex
00:14:53.580 Jones is speaking truth to power this morning in the war room. Short break.
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00:16:31.460 Government gangsters are the group of individuals,
00:16:34.100 career bureaucrats who have been installed by what we call the deep state
00:16:41.100 into every agency and department in the United States government.
00:16:48.660 What do you think of the way that the intelligence community handled the so-called
00:16:53.440 Russia dossier? And overall, how do you think of the way they've handled Donald Trump?
00:16:58.940 Okay. Government gangsters produced
00:17:27.740 by War Room Film, Stephen K. Bannon, directed by Matthew Taylor. We spent a lot of time with Cash
00:17:33.620 in the book. The book was a best-selling hit. The movie did incredibly well. We'll put it back out.
00:17:39.960 And, you know, Cash understands what's going on. So, Alex, they barely have a grip on the FBI
00:17:47.040 because they've got two guys over there. They barely have a grip on the Justice Department,
00:17:51.220 even though they've seconded some guys like Ed Martin and people like that over there.
00:17:54.860 They don't have a grip. Ratcliffe's already told us the thousand CIA guys are all just going to be,
00:18:01.520 you know, as they retire, they're not going to fill the billet. And he's already said,
00:18:04.520 Politico has reported, he's not going to make any changes. He said he's not going to make any
00:18:08.720 political changes over there. You just go through department after department after department.
00:18:14.320 We're burning daylight on this. The departments themselves can't do it. The folks President
00:18:20.980 Trump have are doing a solid job as a kid, but they barely have grips on this massive
00:18:25.700 administrative state bureaucracy. And the combination of those departments I talked about,
00:18:31.160 certain elite elements forms a deep state. This has to happen from the outside. And it has to
00:18:36.800 report directly to President Trump because you can tell he's getting more frustrated. What is your
00:18:40.880 recommendation, sir? Well, that's right. You know, we know that they were going to put Ed Martin in as
00:18:46.900 the U.S. attorney in D.C. He was acting as that. And then the Republicans, some of them,
00:18:52.780 Tillis blocked it. Trump could have rammed it through. But instead, they are making him the head
00:18:57.660 of this new anti-government weaponization task force with the power to go over the country. But he's not
00:19:04.100 working on even trying to get it staffed. And obviously, you know, going through all of that. But I think
00:19:08.820 you're right, a special counsel that the president brings in that reports right to him, a anti-deep
00:19:15.840 state czar, Ed Martin would be a great person. And, you know, not give him a billion dollars like
00:19:21.500 they're talking about with his new task force. How about $10 billion? I mean, $20 billion. I mean,
00:19:28.060 this would be the best money we ever spent. And in a doge-like way, just go in, look at the files of
00:19:34.440 all these globalists, all these deceivers, and just purge them. That's what must be done. And
00:19:41.420 what happens is you leave them there. They start threatening. They start intimidating. They start
00:19:46.600 going after people's families covertly. They start applying all sorts of pressure. And then most of
00:19:52.300 the people Trump's put in that he thinks are even on his side aren't for the globalists. But at the end
00:19:56.700 of the day, they're intimidated. Trump needs hardcore, serious warriors like him. And that's
00:20:03.780 what he has to have. He needs to have a thousand Steve Bannons, a thousand General Flynn's, a thousand
00:20:11.040 Ed Martins to put in all the key positions that don't play games. We are in a counter-revolution
00:20:16.920 against the globalists. We were on the edge of the republic being gone, but the people rallied and woke
00:20:21.800 up to a certain extent. And now we've expanded our beachhead of eight years ago to a larger take
00:20:28.200 back of the republic. But we are far from victorious at this point. If we go through, Alex, if we go
00:20:35.820 through these four years and we've changed the trade deals, we've killed the global, we got out of the
00:20:40.800 World Trade Organization, we've secured our borders, we've done all this, but have not laid a glove on
00:20:46.280 the deep state. Would this term be a success or a failure in your mind? People will see the
00:20:54.580 incredible success and then MAGA, make America great again and make the world great again in this
00:21:01.180 global peace initiative, the golden age of the world. As Trump said, it has to start in America
00:21:05.600 where the central pillar of the West, the West falls, the whole world falls. I mean, that's really the
00:21:10.020 mission. American soft power, bringing back what made us the apple of the world's eye and the
00:21:15.400 destination. Yes, overall, they'll never get their full globalist plan, but they will still for
00:21:22.320 decades be able to destabilize and persecute people. And they will try to reinstitute their
00:21:29.140 carbon taxes, their Paris Accords, the transgender stuff that we still haven't fully defeated.
00:21:34.100 And so long term, they still lose, but it'll be much, much, much more painful. We've got to
00:21:39.880 aggressively get this done now. It must be done. It is an absolute death battle beyond existential
00:21:47.940 are all of our futures hanging in the balance. As Trump has said a thousand times, they're not
00:21:52.600 trying to get him. He's standing in the way of them getting to us. And the public has to understand
00:21:58.340 this is the number one issue. This is everything. And as the world begins to wake up to the globalist
00:22:05.040 tyranny and you will eat the bugs, that's happening. And you see the EU arresting their political
00:22:09.840 opposition, arresting, canceling elections. So people are really getting it, but we're seeing
00:22:14.760 the response of the globalists to not reform or course correct, but to double down, not just here,
00:22:20.040 but around the world. We have to double down with everything we've got. And it's got to be Trump's
00:22:25.760 leadership. He's got to call in Kosh and all of them and tell them, listen, because he's not stupid.
00:22:34.180 He knows that was a stand down to what happened at Butler. He knows that was a setup with Ukraine
00:22:38.720 money coming back through to try to kill him in Mar-a-Lago. He knows damn well. And if they don't
00:22:43.620 bring all this out, then it is just inviting them to continue to engage in all the criminal activity
00:22:50.780 they've engaged in. No, they know they want, you've said, okay, you've talked to senior people. You said,
00:22:56.220 hey, look, to go after the top guys now is too hard. We're going to go in and start rolling up and have
00:23:01.320 guys flip. Do you believe given the time we have, do you think that's a smart strategy, sir?
00:23:08.420 I mean, I'm not a federal prosecutor. I'm not a U.S. attorney. And I definitely studied it and
00:23:13.960 know enough to be dangerous. But all I know is, as you keep saying, this was a globalist revolution
00:23:20.940 in the country. Cloud and Pivot on steroids. We're not in the same place we were. This is a real war.
00:23:25.420 It's an emergency. They brought us in to bureaucratic, globalist, martial law, endless
00:23:30.700 emergency. So it's going to take serious medicine to get us out of that. Trump's not a tyrant. He's
00:23:36.720 a peacemaker. He wants stability. But we have to be ready, no, to put him in in 28. We need to 48,
00:23:45.000 47, not 86, 47. We have to be bold, aggressive, unapologetic. We're the good guys. We're fighting
00:23:53.320 the tyrants. We control the narrative. And we just have to be not arrogant, but laser-focused and
00:24:00.120 bullish and just blitzkrieg over them with the truth and not play patty cake. I watch Fox News
00:24:07.540 constantly congratulating themselves. Oh, was it ineptitude they didn't know that Trump—was it
00:24:13.720 ineptitude that they didn't know that Biden was a near vegetable? Or do they do it on purpose?
00:24:17.920 That's a false debate within a false debate. It's not about them lying. We knew they were lying. It's
00:24:22.960 about the coup of the last four years. We have to hammer the illegitimacy of that. We have to get
00:24:28.880 election integrity, enforce those executive orders, pull the federal funds from states that don't have
00:24:34.120 voter ID. We have to reinstitute the Judiciary Act of 1802, 1803, Thomas Jefferson. Congress should not
00:24:43.240 just talk about it. They should fire either selectively or all of these Article III judges.
00:24:48.820 This is war. We've got to take action now.
00:24:51.280 Wow. Alex Jones, man. Hey, I'm signing up for this. Now you know why Alex Jones is target number
00:24:58.020 one, and we ought to get those documents out there. You were target number one. Alex, where do people
00:25:02.020 go to get all your content, social media? You're the tip of the spear on this, and you're right. It's
00:25:07.360 an information war, but we've got to go on offense. We're not on offense right now, folks. We're on
00:25:11.620 offense and a lot of stuff President Trump's doing. I'm setting the economy, trying to stunt
00:25:14.700 the kinetic part of the Third World War, stop the invasion. But on the thing that we have to do,
00:25:20.560 which is take apart the deep state and salt the earth around it, a Carthaginian peace is the only
00:25:26.420 thing that we're going to call for. We're not there yet, and we've got to get there, and we've got to
00:25:30.620 get there rapidly. Alex, where do they go to get all your content and social media, sir?
00:25:35.340 It's been a long battle. There's a hearing on June 6th where they're still trying to shut us down.
00:25:40.400 I'm suing them. Paul Weiss Law Firm, we're really winning. There's a criminal investigation. I can
00:25:45.080 just leave it at that, what they've done. And I'll be up in D.C. soon for some meetings on that. But
00:25:50.720 bottom line, I'm at RealAlexJones on X. For now, Infowars.com forward slash show. And we are just
00:25:57.400 fighting, and we are pushing the truth out, and we are rallying the troops. I want to thank all of your
00:26:03.040 viewers and listeners for their great work. And I was at target number one. We were all in the first
00:26:09.300 target group, but yes, we were in the first wave that they attacked because we are the shock troops,
00:26:14.140 and I'm just blessed to be right beside you, Steve.
00:26:17.700 Alex, just before we go, we've got about a minute.
00:26:20.980 In this, because we've pulled you live from the day they were trying to shut you down,
00:26:26.380 the guys are in there in your control room ripping out cords. In that fight back to stay alive
00:26:33.540 as a broadcaster, you're saying your investigators, you have found criminal activity against you, sir?
00:26:40.160 Yes, we filed that in court. That's the hearing on the 6th. And I can tell you the Justice Department
00:26:44.180 is looking at it, and they've asked me to come up soon with all the data. And it's incredible.
00:26:50.380 We found out the Justice Department secretly funded the fake lawsuits, coordinated the Democrat
00:26:54.100 operative judges defaulting me, and they had literal show trials produced by HBO.
00:26:58.420 They had a fake auction back in November and wouldn't let anybody else bid, but said it was
00:27:04.080 a real auction. The judge found it was a fraud, the federal judge. But then he still just says,
00:27:11.640 well, if Paul Weiss law firm running this whole thing against me doesn't want somebody to buy
00:27:17.340 InfoWars, it'll just be shut down. And the Democrats have said, we don't want him on air.
00:27:21.120 We don't want money. We want him shut down. Of course, we built a backup network at AJ and
00:27:26.340 Live on X, and that's things built. But it's smaller. This is the hill we're dying on. We're
00:27:31.020 not giving up to the end. But that's what's going on. I mean, it has been wild. It has
00:27:36.320 been crazy. And you can read the filing from about a month ago in federal court that got
00:27:40.000 this hearing on the 6th coming up. We're filing more lawsuits. And we say in there, we show
00:27:45.880 the bankruptcy fraud. We show the criminality. We show it. Boom, boom, boom. It's cut and dry.
00:27:49.860 They've been so arrogant. And the Justice Department's very interested because they were so arrogant
00:27:53.680 with me. It's very cut and dry. And it goes right up to the Justice Department, right up
00:27:58.460 to the FBI. The FBI testified in the Connecticut show trial that they initiated the lawsuits
00:28:03.400 against me. So it's all been run by Comey.
00:28:06.060 Well, we're going to get all over it. That's why President Trump targeted Paul Weiss first
00:28:12.180 because they're the tip of the sphere. Alex, thank you so much. We got your back. God bless
00:28:16.980 you. What a warrior. What a patriot. What an American hero. The Alex Jones. Short break.
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00:29:47.820 today. War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. Okay, I'm going to go to the White House. Our own
00:29:57.700 Russ Vogt, the director, Office of Management and Budget. Russ, can you can you kind of summarize
00:30:04.320 where we are? The big, beautiful bill passed. Your structure of trying to bend the arc of mandatory
00:30:09.980 spending in the out years is now approved. Head to the Senate. Where do we stand, sir?
00:30:14.080 Obviously, we had a big vote this morning to get the bill out of the House, a massive bill. Any one
00:30:22.220 of these provisions in this bill would normally in a different era been the subject of months of the
00:30:27.460 debate. But we were able to do it in one bill and send it to the to the Senate. Well, the thing that
00:30:33.220 I want to unpack a couple of things. Number one, this is it is an enormous bill. It is much of our
00:30:38.800 agenda. But it is only one aspect of what a comprehensive budget picture is. And so like
00:30:45.300 this wasn't a budget resolution. This was a procedural device to get as much as your agenda
00:30:50.200 through the Senate and avoid a Senate filibuster. Doesn't include the tariffs, doesn't include the
00:30:55.340 discretionary fight that we're going to do on rescissions and cutting all the non-defense spending
00:31:00.660 that we sent up in our budget resolution. There's a lot of things that are part of a comprehensive
00:31:05.580 fiscal picture that gets you to balance. But what this bill does is it ends, I believe, 30 years of
00:31:12.240 futility with not being able to do anything substantial on mandatory savings. The last time
00:31:18.320 we had any real victory was 1997 with passage of the balanced budget agreement, which of course had
00:31:24.120 welfare reform as part of it. This bill has nearly $2 trillion by all the as the scores get updated
00:31:31.380 based on the changes that House conservatives were able to work with us on. This bill will have
00:31:35.980 nearly $2 trillion in mandatory savings, more than double what was achieved in 1997. And it will
00:31:44.020 mean as a result of reasonable economic growth assumptions over 10 and the mandatory savings that
00:31:50.520 are part of this bill, that this bill will reduce the deficit and will help us with our debt. And I
00:31:56.340 believe the most important thing we need is actually victories on our side of the football field.
00:32:02.400 That's what this bill does. And that's what we have not had for 30 years. It also then sets us up
00:32:08.000 for an enormous fight on non-defense appropriations, the woke, the weaponized bureaucracy. That is still
00:32:13.940 going to happen this year. This bill makes it easier because we are taking for all of our homeland
00:32:19.500 security increases and our defense increases that are normally the kinds of things that cause
00:32:23.800 Republicans or Democrats to be divided. It keeps us from having a rock down fight on non-defense
00:32:31.580 discretionary later this year. This bill, in fact, sets that up. So it's, I'm extremely excited about
00:32:37.500 it. Obviously, President Trump closed it out yesterday. And now we go to the Senate to try to
00:32:41.860 get as much of this and hopefully more as we possibly can.
00:32:46.060 No, here's a closer, but here's the thing. In selling it to the bond market, the growth rate,
00:32:51.020 which I think can be justified. The House used 2.6. HASS is talking about 3% or more. But I think
00:32:57.140 the things on the supply site, that can be sold. Your additional cuts and rescissions, I don't think
00:33:03.000 is in here. That can be sold. The tariffs. I don't know. The tariffs are going to be at least a couple
00:33:08.240 hundred billion dollars, maybe three. I hear as much as half a trillion dollars. That can't be scored
00:33:13.260 by CBO. We got that. But in a big, beautiful package, it can be sold to the bond market. I've got
00:33:19.480 Scott Besson. I've got Russ Vogt. I got Hassett, maybe even Morant and Navarro. I got three, four,
00:33:26.480 five, throw in Lutnik, of people that understand these and can explain it to capital markets.
00:33:33.480 What is the plan for that? I got a big, beautiful bill, but it's not comprehensive because certain
00:33:37.940 things can't be in it because of the nature of the reconciliation. When are we going to go? Because
00:33:43.100 I think that's when people understand, well, hey, maybe I want more 10-year treasuries and I'm not
00:33:48.360 going to charge you, you know, what, 4.6% or, you know, over five on the 30s. When are we going to have
00:33:54.380 a comprehensive, if anybody can sell something, it's Donald Trump, right? Because he's a deal guy.
00:33:59.580 He knows capital markets. When are we going to get on offense and push what you just said,
00:34:04.560 which is a winning message and happens to be reality?
00:34:09.700 No, it's something we've been trying to do over the last week, you know, particularly because
00:34:13.340 we got the news from Moody's. And look, with Moody's, you know, I think there's some Liz Truss
00:34:17.980 attacks going on with regard to the timing of this. They were basically trying to get themselves
00:34:22.720 updated for being irrelevant for the last 15 years. In terms of what's the substance of what
00:34:28.120 the credit ratings have said over years is, look, there's been no success towards moving
00:34:33.940 the structural debt and deficits from mandatory savings. We think we accomplished that. But to
00:34:38.620 your point, your question, we believe that the tariffs are a part of this. The tariffs are
00:34:44.580 happening right now. Everyone thinks the president's negotiating these bills. We are on a current
00:34:50.180 glide path right now for $3 trillion over 10 years, notwithstanding how the reciprocal agreements
00:34:57.500 end up. That's based on the things that are in place right now that we are seeing record levels
00:35:03.880 of tariffs. And they are coming in to the extent over 10 years of $3 trillion. We are going to send
00:35:09.980 up rescissions bills. There's this meme out there that we're not sending rescissions bills up.
00:35:14.180 We have a $9 billion package of doge cuts to foreign aid and Corporation for Public Broadcasting
00:35:19.760 and NPR. It is almost ready to go up. Why is the delay? The delay is because the House actually wants
00:35:25.900 to pass it. And we have been working with House appropriators, Tom Cole, Mario Diaz-Ballart. For the
00:35:30.920 first time in history, I've had conversations with the House appropriators. They want to pass it in
00:35:35.580 the House and put pressure on the Senate. I don't want to send rescissions bills up there that go
00:35:39.780 nowhere. And then, of course, we remain committed in keeping impoundment on the table. So if they don't
00:35:45.240 move these cuts, we are still going to have our executive tools to, in fiscal year 25,
00:35:50.260 in fiscal year 25, to bend and cut and reduce woke and weaponized bureaucracy and make doge cuts
00:35:58.320 permanent. So this is a comprehensive picture. Those three things, because CBO, because of the nature of
00:36:05.420 it, can't score certain things. In reconciliation, you can't discuss things because of the way. But
00:36:10.620 I count from Hassett, on growth rates of what they say they can back up, and I think they can,
00:36:18.520 $4 trillion of additional tax revenues coming in on the reduced tax structure we've got. Number one,
00:36:24.840 you just said $3 trillion over 10 on tariffs, minimum. That's $300. You add the $400 billion
00:36:31.320 of additional growth, tax growth, and you add the $300 billion. I'm at $700 billion. All of a sudden,
00:36:37.280 that you throw in some rescissions, I'm getting close to the trillion dollars that we talked about
00:36:42.860 cutting. This gets you on the six and a half, the glide slope to three and a half. Zero hedge
00:36:47.300 and everybody reporting, hey, the six and a half goes to seven. The reason is we're not on a full
00:36:53.060 offense, relentless about you're not looking at the math right, and here's the math. And if you do that,
00:36:59.460 the bond market's going to react because right now we're playing with one hand tied behind our back
00:37:03.880 because of the constraints of the reconciliation process, sir.
00:37:10.960 Couldn't say it better. We have to zoom out. We got to show the full picture of what this
00:37:15.720 administration is accomplishing across the board. And once we tell that story, people will be as
00:37:22.280 excited as I am, as OMB has been in helping shepherd this to the completion and getting the president to
00:37:29.400 be able to get it across the finish line. Why? Because it ends fiscal futility. We haven't had
00:37:34.920 any victories on this side of the football field in nearly 30 years, and now we're talking about
00:37:40.360 $2 trillion in mandatory savings. Yeah. One thing. Okay, Russ, so the reason for that has not really
00:37:49.440 been the House. It's been the Senate. And you got 19 collaborators up there that worked with Biden
00:37:54.360 and Mitch McConnell to agree to all this madness and spending that drove inflation that got us into
00:38:00.300 this situation with the debt. When does Russ vote go sit down with the Senate and say, guys,
00:38:05.940 you can't make this any, we need to make this even better. You can't make it worse because that is
00:38:10.580 the heart. For the audience out there, the heavy lift, as heavy as it was in the House,
00:38:16.740 a heavier lift is the Senate. Is it not, sir? We think that we're going to have a great
00:38:24.460 set of progress and getting this through the Senate. Look, here's the dynamic. We're up there
00:38:30.400 all the time. I'll be up there all the time. We've got a lot of members. The Republican Conference
00:38:36.080 wants to do something historic. They want to do something that's big and beautiful. They want to
00:38:40.900 get it done. We believe that a three-seat majority in the House just proved that you could do the
00:38:47.480 magnitude and the scale of what we're now talking about. I think it puts pressure on the Senate to
00:38:52.660 do it. And I think we have members in the Senate as well that are going to, because the fiscal hawks
00:38:58.400 in the Senate are going to demand that we hit the House number and be able to build upon it. And so I
00:39:04.540 think this is something that, you know, we're hoping to get it done as soon as we possibly can and get
00:39:09.560 it to the president's desk before July 4th. A thousand conversations between now and then need
00:39:14.820 to occur, but I'm not expecting a ton of resistance. Wow. Russ Vogt, where do we go? Thanks for taking
00:39:21.560 time today to visit with us. Where do we go to follow you on social media, sir? At Russ Vogt and now
00:39:28.260 at OMB Press. Okay. By the way, Russ, all those profiles I read about you, you're not that bad a guy,
00:39:37.380 are you? The media, these things are like you're Darth Vader. You're not that bad. You're actually a
00:39:42.420 pretty nice guy. Just your boring neighborhood budget guy, Steve. Russ, you're a warrior. Thank
00:39:51.720 you, sir. Thank you for helping the president. Thanks, Steve. Appreciate it. Russ Vogt, patriot and
00:39:58.680 warrior right there. They're coming after Russ. Big league. They understand he's the glue that holds it
00:40:06.320 together. You heard it right there. I think we've got to get a full package and you got to press.
00:40:12.160 This thing's got to be sold. The Moody's thing is not a coincidence. They did it on the eve of the
00:40:17.560 vote for a reason. They had decades to do this. And what did they do? They didn't do it during Biden's
00:40:22.480 thing. Give me a break. Give me a fricking break. Do we have the, do we have the Luigi,
00:40:27.200 Luigi? Can I do the forks in the road? Is that teed up? Can we go and call the call for that?
00:40:31.160 Yeah. Yeah. Let's go and play. I want to play this. I want to talk about they had an
00:40:36.940 assassination. That's what it was last night. Assassination to assassination in thing.
00:40:43.380 Okay. We ready? Anytime. Let's go. Let's hit it.
00:40:49.540 And here's the thing. The alternative, the populist nationalist offer is an alternative that
00:40:55.260 you can see the sunlit up once tons of change has to happen. But the other alternative, I'm telling
00:41:01.000 you, is this Luigi, the look has treated like a hero. He's treated like Robin Hood. That should
00:41:08.200 scare you to the marrow of your bones, because that's the alternative. If the system keeps going
00:41:14.080 like it is, that alternative is your alternative. We offer the populist nationalists offer something
00:41:19.980 you're not going to love, but you'll be able to live with. Right. Particularly when it comes to
00:41:25.960 spending money, your money. So I said yesterday in front of this world, the system we have is not
00:41:34.040 sustainable. Our alternative makes it sustainable. But if you continue on the path, you're going to
00:41:41.560 get Luigi. And Luigi is going to be gunning for those people in that audience, which I think the
00:41:48.660 audience understood what I was saying. They took it to heart, let's say. We've talked for years about
00:41:55.480 the red-green merger. This is this radical Marxism, neo-Marxism, combining with radical jihad. You saw
00:42:02.140 it last night in Washington, D.C. Gunned down a couple of young people outside, I think, of a Jewish,
00:42:08.140 some sort of Jewish get-together. The young guy who happened to be a Christian, I think engaged to a
00:42:12.720 Jewish girl. Gunned him down in cold blood, just like Luigi. And he's put out a manifesto. We'll make
00:42:18.320 sure we'll go through the manifesto. Maybe I'll make sure we'll do that at five o'clock. But this
00:42:24.900 is what I was warning about. This merger of the BLM and the radical neo-Marxist with the jihadists,
00:42:33.240 because the guy was yelling, free Palestine. This is going to be a thing. What's this guy's name,
00:42:41.160 Rodriguez or Gonzalez? He clearly doesn't appear to be a Muslim. The free Palestine is now part of
00:42:48.940 this neo-Marxist. It's the red-green merger. And this is going to get a lot more violent. I keep
00:42:54.860 telling people this. They're going to get a lot more violent. These people are out of control. They
00:43:00.000 are violent people, and they're being goaded on by people that want them to have violence. And that guy
00:43:05.900 was right there and was, I don't know if he ran away or didn't run away, but he was captured by
00:43:10.580 the authorities or at least security immediately. He's taken two young lives, and his life's over.
00:43:16.780 He'll spend, you know, they'll put him in a supermax for the rest of his life. These people are being
00:43:24.580 goaded on by very sophisticated and very bad people that want to destroy this republic.
00:43:30.480 This red-green merger, you've seen it in Europe. You've seen it in London. This is the radical
00:43:35.280 neo-Marxist left with the Sharia supremacists of the jihadist movement. Short commercial break.
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00:45:12.220 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:45:14.720 Okay, so Noor, just walk me through this. We're, in fact, I don't think we send observers.
00:45:27.320 Correct me if I'm wrong. I think President Trump's pretty adamant. Hey, we're out. He considers we're
00:45:31.440 out now. Officially takes place in January. But they have been there passing things. The question
00:45:40.900 the audience wants to know, how is that going to affect U.S. citizens? We're not part of the World
00:45:46.600 Health Organization. We're acting like we're out already. But in January, we're out. And President
00:45:51.700 Trump, God bless him, this is what I voted for. He ain't sending the money for 24 and 25. He's saying
00:45:56.980 no. When I say out, we're out. And they're having to scramble. And by the way, all these guys talking
00:46:02.720 about they're going to put this up and they're going to do this. And Bill Gates, you watch. If they're not
00:46:06.120 living off U.S. taxpayers, nothing happens. This thing will be crumbling as people. What did they
00:46:12.320 actually pass? And what impact does it have on citizens of these United States if we're not part
00:46:19.460 of the World Health Organization, ma'am? I'll answer your question. After that, I'd really like to come
00:46:26.140 back to the question on the budget and how the fact that the U.S. isn't is leaving the WHO and won't be
00:46:32.240 paying their membership fees is causing so many ripple effects here in Geneva. But to answer your
00:46:38.860 question, there is something that is very critical. And the first thing I'd like to say is that the
00:46:44.300 WHO makes it extremely convoluted and confusing on purpose. They don't want the public to be informed.
00:46:52.280 They don't want the public to really know what's going on. But I'll try my best to break it down.
00:46:57.800 In essence, on Monday, on the first day of the World Health Assembly, the WHA, they had an initial vote
00:47:06.400 in order to bring the pandemic agreement to the floor on the Tuesday morning where it was
00:47:14.400 officially adopted. This is what we discussed yesterday. And we saw the video of everybody
00:47:19.280 clapping and the WHO leaders calling this a win for multilateralism. But it was extremely deceiving
00:47:29.240 because the pandemic agreement wasn't signed, Steve. It cannot be signed because the annex hasn't
00:47:37.420 been approved or even drafted yet. And this annex is the core of the agreement. And this is what
00:47:45.340 they're going to be working on for the next year. The only problem is that from a PR standpoint,
00:47:50.880 they couldn't come up this year and be like, oh, we're delaying it again, which is what they did
00:47:55.280 last year. They've been working on this thing for the past three years. And so they had to mitigate
00:48:00.480 this, you know, PR disaster, which is, you know, frankly, a total fiasco by claiming victory when in fact
00:48:07.380 there isn't a victory. And so the next step is for them to continue negotiating the annex of the pandemic
00:48:15.300 agreement towards a target of actually signing the document at next year's WHA at the 79th World Health
00:48:24.100 Assembly. And once that gets proposed and there are 60 ratifications, 60 signatures, then that will
00:48:31.860 come in effect. But by then, the United States of America won't be a part of the WHO. So technically,
00:48:38.680 the U.S. shouldn't be impacted by the pandemic agreement.
00:48:42.180 Hang on, hang on. But if I go overseas, or if I work for an overseas company, or if I do anything
00:48:49.180 overseas that's going to impact me, because isn't this passing all the stuff with the digital IDs and
00:48:56.700 everything, all the evil we try to get out of this, we walked away, which is smart.
00:49:03.720 But aren't they going to try to put a noose around the United States by doing this, ma'am?
00:49:09.920 And my point is, we're going to have to get more aggressive. Just walking away is one thing,
00:49:14.300 but we're going to have to get more aggressive in combating what they're doing. We just can't be
00:49:18.940 passive. Can we? Just by just by us being there doesn't mean that this thing's not good. They're not
00:49:23.280 going to try to roll up U.S. citizens. We're just not a signatory, correct?
00:49:27.900 That's an absolute critical point you just made, Steve. And this is why I mentioned it yesterday,
00:49:32.980 but I'm going to reiterate this point because it's so important. You guys in the United States
00:49:38.120 of America need to ask President Trump and the Trump administration to reject the amendments to
00:49:44.220 the international health regulations that were adopted at last year's World Health Assembly. And you
00:49:51.060 have until July 19 to reject those amendments, which are actually the legal, which is the legal
00:49:59.240 instrument that the WHO is using to put that noose that you've described.
00:50:04.500 Okay. You just answered my question. Okay. So here's what we need to do. This is one of the
00:50:07.820 things we're going to have to get up on the ramparts. I need, we're going to get you back
00:50:10.980 and I want to take, and maybe I do a six o'clock show. I got a little more time to go through this
00:50:15.460 and maybe we do that for next week, but I want to take like an hour and I want to go through
00:50:21.760 exactly what it is. And then we'll obviously weaponize the board and posse because we have
00:50:27.120 to go on offense. Step one, which President Trump has done with all the work and all the support of,
00:50:32.880 of the board and everybody else, Michelle Bachman is to tell these people, screw you. We ain't paying
00:50:37.840 for this. This is absurd. We're out. And he's adamant, including not paying these last couple of years.
00:50:44.100 So he's throwing that hard. However, we need to go on offense and going on offense. You're saying
00:50:49.260 step one is to make sure that the United States comes out and says, we're not party to the
00:50:54.400 amendments, right? That not only that we're going to sign them, but they have no jurisdiction over
00:50:59.120 the United States. Is that what it is? Exactly. And I mean, there are so many resources and this is
00:51:05.300 the job that my friend Nick and I did with the website, weheardothers.com to put all of these
00:51:10.700 resources, but specifically when it comes to the question of these amendments and the importance to
00:51:16.600 reject them by the deadline of July 19th. There is one specific website that James Roguski has put
00:51:23.420 together, which is rejecttheamendments.com. And that's the one website the posse needs to go to
00:51:29.740 in order to educate and, and, and understand what is at stake here.
00:51:35.180 So we're going to put it all up. What's your, what's all the kind, where did they go for you
00:51:40.220 and social media? I'm going to work with you over the weekend. We're going to get you back next week.
00:51:43.600 We're going to get up and make sure that by July 9th, no later than July 19th, the United States has
00:51:49.040 rejected these. And that's step one of going on offense. You got to go on offense against these
00:51:53.700 people. Otherwise you're your pass or the crusher. Where do people go nor to get you?
00:51:57.120 Uh, norbinladen.substack.com, uh, norbinladen on Twitter. And, uh, once more with regards to the
00:52:06.260 WHO, we heard others.com. Perfect. Norbin Laden, an audience favorite. I might add. Thank you so
00:52:16.060 much, ma'am. Appreciate you. Thank you. I love the posse. Always great to be with you guys.
00:52:20.500 Fantastic. Boy, Bacia and Noor in one, in two blocks. How about that? Who's giving you that?
00:52:31.000 Come on, man. That's why the war room is the war room bringing you fighters. This WHO, it's reign of
00:52:40.500 terror over citizens of this Republic is over and we're going to make sure it's over. We're not only
00:52:48.880 going to tear this thing apart, we're going to bury it. And we're going to tell them how much dirt
00:52:52.580 we're putting on top of it. Okay. On its grave. Short commercial break. If we figure this out,
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