Bannon's War Room - May 22, 2025


Episode 4505： Hostage Situation In The FBI; Exclusive With Russ Vought


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00:00:00.000 You know what, Maria? Cash is not kidding. We've been personally briefed extensively on every single
00:00:08.980 detail, nugget, tendril of this case. One is actively in court right now, so out of respect
00:00:15.400 for the case, it's probably more appropriate that I stay quiet on that. However, I'm not going to
00:00:21.400 tell people what they want to hear. I'm going to tell you the truth, and whether you like it or not
00:00:25.120 is up to you, if there was a big explosive there there, right, given my history as a Secret Service
00:00:31.460 agent and my personal friendship as a director does with the president, give me one logical,
00:00:37.880 sensible reason we would not have. If you can think of one, there isn't. There isn't. In some of these
00:00:44.020 cases, the there you're looking for is not there, and I know people, I get it. I understand. It's
00:00:51.020 not there. If it was there, we would have told you. You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.
00:00:59.720 People don't believe it. Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion, but as someone
00:01:05.540 who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor, who's been in that prison system, who's been in the
00:01:10.300 Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing, you know a suicide when you
00:01:15.420 see one, and that's what that was. He killed himself. Again, you want me to, I've, I've seen
00:01:22.100 the whole file. He killed himself. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies,
00:01:33.180 because we're going medieval on these people. Here's one time I got a free shot, all these networks
00:01:38.380 lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.
00:01:43.820 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's
00:01:46.960 going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my
00:01:54.020 soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what
00:02:00.660 is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host,
00:02:10.200 Stephen K. Band.
00:02:13.820 Thursday, 21 May, year of order, 2025. By the way, for the War Room Posse, I know we're going to get,
00:02:20.620 we're going to walk, work through the bill. We're going to get organized. I understand. Look,
00:02:24.160 one of the things that jumps out at me, there's no tax on social security. Didn't see that.
00:02:29.700 I missed that. They've got a little relief, and I think it works out to 500 bucks. We'll figure it
00:02:35.380 all out. But this thing's got, we got to go through it. We're going to get organized. So just
00:02:40.020 keep digging. But this thing's a long way from over. Alex Jones joins me. We've got a lot to go
00:02:47.600 through today, Alex, and I want your thoughts on kind of where we stand. But if you look at
00:02:51.540 President Trump's trying to end the kinetic part of the Third World War, right? And he, you know,
00:02:57.720 from Russian rapprochement to the situation in Ukraine, which is part of that, to the, you know,
00:03:02.860 Israel wants to bomb the Persians like tomorrow night. President Trump's trying to lay hands on
00:03:08.920 all that. You've got the big, beautiful bill has the $170 billion in it, I think, for $150 billion to
00:03:15.160 deport the 13 million illegal aliens here, that the courts are forcing us into a constitutional
00:03:21.320 crisis of which we're hurtling towards. And then if you look in the middle of what the,
00:03:25.680 if you look at the, you know, redoing all the commercial relationships in the world and how
00:03:30.180 the budget is and how it's going to be financed, all of it. And of course, the bond market's not
00:03:33.740 exactly high-fiving us right now, but people were going to work through all this. The one aspect
00:03:38.380 that's continued to concern me, and now you've got this whole Biden situation, is that whole other
00:03:44.920 thing of taking down the administrative state, which Doge started, right? Although the Congress
00:03:50.200 has still not codified the cuts, you know, the cuts and the ways for an abuse. But even more
00:03:54.740 importantly, it's taking on the deep state. Now, two close friends of yours and mine and colleagues
00:04:00.520 and people that we respect and pushed hard for this job, Dan Bongino and Kash Patel, two of the best
00:04:07.180 of the best. You know, I couldn't understand when I saw that until I read your text and said,
00:04:12.140 it looked like a hostage video. And I go, Alex Jones nailed it again. That's exactly what it is.
00:04:18.560 In fact, I went back to make sure that Dan and Kash were not blinking their eyes and I missed the
00:04:23.480 Morse code. What's going on, brother? You've got, you've got a better, you've been working this beat
00:04:29.040 for a long time. What is your assessment right now of how, because I tell you, when they steal it in
00:04:35.300 28 and they're going to try to steal it in 28, everybody's going to prison unless this,
00:04:40.500 unless this deep state's taken apart, because these people are vicious. Where do you think
00:04:45.500 we stand right now on coming up on Memorial Day weekend, four or five months into the second term
00:04:52.000 here, sir?
00:04:52.460 On the broad strokes of policy, winning the trade war, ending our long surrender to the
00:05:01.920 globalist system, effectively getting us out of the World Trade Organization, taking our power back,
00:05:06.500 really starting to wind down these planetary wars that threaten our very existence, on securing the
00:05:14.220 border, on getting trillions of dollars of investment to come in, on relaunching love of our country,
00:05:21.460 on stopping the globalist demoralization of the population. When it comes to yesterday with
00:05:28.560 the South African racist president who claims he doesn't know anything about targeting white farmers
00:05:33.880 or killing or protecting their land, and then just showing it all in his face. I mean, this is a
00:05:39.080 masterclass in how to smash the gaslighters. But when it comes to the infrastructure and the
00:05:46.460 bureaucracy and the permanent state, I would give Trump a C-, but that's because of how dug in it is
00:05:54.800 and how hard these people are fighting back and how arrogant they are, but also because it's an
00:06:00.780 existential threat for them if we continue to win. So we're winning, but in the first 123 days or so,
00:06:08.040 24 days, you see that massive momentum starting to slow in some areas, and that's very, very concerning.
00:06:16.140 And we see Moody's trying to lower the U.S. credit rating and then trying to lower U.S. bank credit rating
00:06:22.600 because the globalists are so desperate to, you know, to stop Trump's, you know, incredible so far victories
00:06:28.140 and getting most of the planet to realign with us. It's not, it's just not about trade, obviously.
00:06:32.360 It's about alliances ending the neoliberal globalist order. That'll never get back into power again.
00:06:40.200 But in pockets around the world, like here in the U.S., if they're able to at least get control of the
00:06:44.640 executive branch again, they are going to not just come for Steve Bannon and Donald Trump and his
00:06:49.520 family and Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson. They're going to come for the entire country as they've said
00:06:54.500 they would do. And as they were going to do, they were able to put Kamala in. So this is really
00:06:59.080 an existential threat, as you said. And I really like Dan Bongino. I really like Kosh Patel.
00:07:05.300 But recent statements that, oh, Jeffrey Epstein killed himself when it would take an hour to go
00:07:11.540 over the evidence. Obviously, he didn't. It's ridiculous. Neck broken three times. That's the
00:07:14.680 coroner. And all the rest of it, cameras turned off on and on and on. And then to add insult to injury,
00:07:19.620 oh, and we've seen all the evidence from Butler and Crooks, and it's open and shut. Nothing else
00:07:26.020 happened here. Bare minimum, Secret Service stand down. The FBI trying to cover up the
00:07:30.300 investigation until Kosh and Bongino got in. And then there's so many facets to it. I've
00:07:37.380 interviewed the private investigators that have been on the ground, very respected, I've
00:07:41.220 known for decades, like Hagman, where they got threatened on the ground by FBI to get out
00:07:45.940 of here when they were there for months. So we know the whole background of Crooks and his
00:07:51.500 house being basically completely clean, no utensils, nothing. His phone being at this
00:07:56.760 law enforcement training center with the geolocation being around the FBI building. I mean, he's
00:08:02.120 on top of the building taking the shot for 10 minutes with people saying, shooter, shooter,
00:08:07.000 shooter, shooter, nothing being done. You got Bongino for months and months and months in
00:08:11.880 July rightfully saying this is a cover up. And then 180. And then the body language, which
00:08:18.060 almost makes it enduring when they're being deceptive, and we all know they are, for whatever
00:08:21.920 reason, they look like, in fact, I was going to say that, like in the Korean War or in the
00:08:26.640 Vietnam War conflicts, when they would shoot down our fighter pilots or fighter bombers,
00:08:31.680 and then the famous cases of them doing Morse code when they'd been tortured and forced to
00:08:36.000 say horrible things about America and their mission. They were Morse coding, torture, torture,
00:08:39.560 torture. Younger generations won't know what Steve was talking about, but I'm old enough to
00:08:43.200 remember that. And so that's where we are. And so I don't want to cry foul on these guys. I'm a big
00:08:50.260 booster of the administration. I'm giving them time. You know, you can always get clicks if you
00:08:54.140 sit there and criticize things. A lot of folks do that. We've seen in the Biden situation, you've
00:08:58.360 seen the Praetorian Guard where they had this information in 2019 on the laptop from hell. We
00:09:03.260 had Rudy on here. I was on the laptop from hell team that pushed it out. They had it. Ray and Barr had
00:09:08.860 it in November of 19. They wanted Biden. That's what they're protecting. You've done more than
00:09:14.060 anybody to describe the elements of DOD, CIA, DNI, Department of Justice, FBI, elements of DHS and
00:09:22.160 HHS have formed a cabal of a Praetorian Guard of a deep state. It exists. It's categorical. To the
00:09:30.020 degree, it's C minus. President Trump can't do everything, right? Do we need a special prosecutor?
00:09:35.600 What is Alex Jones's recommendation to take down the deep state? We have only a couple of years to
00:09:42.680 do it. And they're dug in because they run the most powerful apparatus in mankind's history, sir.
00:09:49.820 Well, remember the FBI head in New York that they made resign when he had the Epstein files
00:09:54.180 when they, Kosh did, you know, raid him a day after they refused to release him. He said,
00:09:59.040 we're dug in. We're in a war. We're Marines fighting Trump. I mean, it's, it's, they need to indict that
00:10:04.360 guy. I mean, that is serious. And we need, and I know they got the report coming out on Afghanistan
00:10:08.800 and that withdrawal. We need to get that commission and court marshals going of a million others. It's
00:10:14.300 all cut and dry. We need prosecutions now. And you're the expert on that. We need those mechanisms
00:10:19.600 now. And we have to start going after these people. Now we're starting to see corrupt Congress people
00:10:24.000 arrested. We're starting to see corrupt judges that hide illegal alien gangbangers being arrested.
00:10:28.880 And so, so I'm, and we're seeing Tom Homan scale up and accelerate the amount of deportation. So
00:10:34.060 overall, I give Trump an A plus, but you're absolutely right. He was elected the captain
00:10:39.680 of the ship, as Elon Musk said, as you've said, but he has about half the crew that is mutinous. I
00:10:45.240 mean, half of them wouldn't even respond to the Doe's email saying, what's five things you did last
00:10:48.480 week and who is your boss? And so Trump has to crack the whip with all of these people. You know,
00:10:54.020 Trump wants to know what happened, uh, Ian Butler. Uh, Trump wants to know what happened
00:10:59.580 in Mar-a-Lago with the shooter, but notice the FBI was covering that up according to the state
00:11:03.580 police in Florida. Now it seems to be going on. And I've talked to some high level prosecutors
00:11:08.400 over the weekend and asked them what they thought about all this. And they said, listen,
00:11:12.240 we got to pick our battles. And, uh, you know, certain issues that were run by professional
00:11:18.000 crooks like Comey are so hard to penetrate and would take everything we've got. We're moving to hit
00:11:24.000 the low level and mid-level to make them turn state's evidence very, very soon. I know you
00:11:28.820 talk to a lot of high level sources and president all the time. I talk to some of the top prosecutors,
00:11:33.340 uh, and, uh, you know, they said that's, that that's going on. They also reached out to me to say,
00:11:37.360 we know about what happened to you. So not to write myself into the story, you've been persecuted
00:11:42.060 more, but, uh, three days after Trump got in, I was sent by the FBI, a part of my file where Obama,
00:11:48.960 right when Comey got in in 2013, declared me a top national security threat. I put these documents out
00:11:53.940 months ago. I got them like three weeks after Trump was in just, I got a call. Hey, look in
00:11:59.260 your PO box. It, you know, it came from the FBI and it was, uh, the Boston field office. So back to
00:12:04.460 Mueller as well, um, putting me under national security threat, which is an ongoing, not just
00:12:09.600 criminal investigation, but a full on secret sanction operation of debanking, harassment,
00:12:15.720 demonization, uh, human intelligence, attempted infiltrators, lawsuits, uh, deplatforming.
00:12:22.020 And so I was the beta test along with general Flynn and you, and they bragged about this
00:12:27.620 on MSNBC. They've, you know, they've had their top lawyers that have engineered it all
00:12:30.820 brag. How once we get Jones, Bannon and others, we're going to get Tucker Carlson,
00:12:35.080 then we're going to get Trump. And, and, and so now more of this has come out now, uh, you
00:12:40.060 know, Comey's got his new book out, which they even admit the bad guy that must be put in prison,
00:12:44.660 uh, the talk show host, uh, by the FBI is based on the evil Alex Jones. So they are obsessed with
00:12:51.500 you and I particularly, uh, because we see right through them and we just have to be as intense
00:12:56.760 as possible with the, not just Trump and his, and his, and his, his crew, but with the general
00:13:03.020 public, this is not a normal election, not a normal neocon we got in. This is the real revolution
00:13:09.520 against the globalist. And there is no election cycle. This is full on information war here on
00:13:15.920 out. People better be marching, demonstrating, uh, spreading information online, donating,
00:13:20.980 uh, supporting the sponsors of all the most hardcore on point shows. And when a broadcast
00:13:25.480 and news organization like the war room, or like what I do at info or is under attack, it is an absolute
00:13:31.100 must to push everything we do like it's a war because it is. And I'm not trying to say, Hey,
00:13:37.400 promote us. That's the answer. But it is boost everything. Trump's doing boost everything you're
00:13:42.120 doing. Cause look, listen, we're weeks into the media going corporate media. Oh, look,
00:13:46.220 we're selling books and Oh, the Democrats covered up. He was sick Biden. And he was a near vegetable
00:13:50.700 that we already knew that we don't need them to tell us that we knew that five, six years ago,
00:13:54.540 but when he was first running, we said, Biden's got serious problems. They've diverted from the auto
00:13:59.060 pin, the committee run by Obama that was really ruling the country illegally. They stole the 2020,
00:14:03.980 but you can debate that all day. The evidence is there, but you can't debate
00:14:07.140 that Biden didn't know he signed the ban on liquid natural gas and all the rest of it.
00:14:11.120 And so everything he did was illegitimate. And Trump is hammering that and saying,
00:14:14.400 I want indictments of the treasonous thugs, close quote, that, that, that ran a coup.
00:14:19.280 And that's what it is. So Trump gets it. His instincts are on target. You're on target.
00:14:25.540 I'm on target. A few others are on target. And that's why we're under attack. Whatever's
00:14:30.340 under attack, whatever's getting the flack is over the damn target. And we need to get
00:14:34.420 damn serious about this. And Trump needs to come out with televised national addresses
00:14:38.640 and say, we must arrest the criminals that did all of this, or, uh, it is, they're going
00:14:44.720 to stage false flags. They're getting ready for mass riots this summer. They've been gearing
00:14:48.300 up for it is on. Yeah. Alex, hang on one second. We're taking a short commercial break. Alex
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00:16:31.460 Government gangsters are the group of individuals,
00:16:34.100 career bureaucrats who have been installed by what we call the deep state
00:16:41.100 into every agency and department in the United States government.
00:16:48.660 What do you think of the way that the intelligence community handled the so-called
00:16:53.440 Russia dossier? And overall, how do you think of the way they've handled Donald Trump?
00:16:58.940 Okay. Government gangsters produced
00:17:27.740 by War Room Film, Stephen K. Bannon, directed by Matthew Taylor. We spent a lot of time with Cash
00:17:33.620 in the book. The book was a best-selling hit. The movie did incredibly well. We'll put it back out.
00:17:39.960 And, you know, Cash understands what's going on. So, Alex, they barely have a grip on the FBI
00:17:47.040 because they've got two guys over there. They barely have a grip on the Justice Department,
00:17:51.220 even though they've seconded some guys like Ed Martin and people like that over there.
00:17:54.860 They don't have a grip. Ratcliffe's already told us the thousand CIA guys are all just going to be,
00:18:01.520 you know, as they retire, they're not going to fill the billet. And he's already said,
00:18:04.520 Politico has reported, he's not going to make any changes. He said he's not going to make any
00:18:08.720 political changes over there. You just go through department after department after department.
00:18:14.320 We're burning daylight on this. The departments themselves can't do it. The folks President
00:18:20.980 Trump have are doing a solid job as a kid, but they barely have grips on this massive
00:18:25.700 administrative state bureaucracy. And the combination of those departments I talked about,
00:18:31.160 certain elite elements forms a deep state. This has to happen from the outside. And it has to
00:18:36.800 report directly to President Trump because you can tell he's getting more frustrated. What is your
00:18:40.880 recommendation, sir? Well, that's right. You know, we know that they were going to put Ed Martin in as
00:18:46.900 the U.S. attorney in D.C. He was acting as that. And then the Republicans, some of them,
00:18:52.780 Tillis blocked it. Trump could have rammed it through. But instead, they are making him the head
00:18:57.660 of this new anti-government weaponization task force with the power to go over the country. But he's not
00:19:04.100 working on even trying to get it staffed. And obviously, you know, going through all of that. But I think
00:19:08.820 you're right, a special counsel that the president brings in that reports right to him, a anti-deep
00:19:15.840 state czar, Ed Martin would be a great person. And, you know, not give him a billion dollars like
00:19:21.500 they're talking about with his new task force. How about $10 billion? I mean, $20 billion. I mean,
00:19:28.060 this would be the best money we ever spent. And in a doge-like way, just go in, look at the files of
00:19:34.440 all these globalists, all these deceivers, and just purge them. That's what must be done. And
00:19:41.420 what happens is you leave them there. They start threatening. They start intimidating. They start
00:19:46.600 going after people's families covertly. They start applying all sorts of pressure. And then most of
00:19:52.300 the people Trump's put in that he thinks are even on his side aren't for the globalists. But at the end
00:19:56.700 of the day, they're intimidated. Trump needs hardcore, serious warriors like him. And that's
00:20:03.780 what he has to have. He needs to have a thousand Steve Bannons, a thousand General Flynn's, a thousand
00:20:11.040 Ed Martins to put in all the key positions that don't play games. We are in a counter-revolution
00:20:16.920 against the globalists. We were on the edge of the republic being gone, but the people rallied and woke
00:20:21.800 up to a certain extent. And now we've expanded our beachhead of eight years ago to a larger take
00:20:28.200 back of the republic. But we are far from victorious at this point. If we go through, Alex, if we go
00:20:35.820 through these four years and we've changed the trade deals, we've killed the global, we got out of the
00:20:40.800 World Trade Organization, we've secured our borders, we've done all this, but have not laid a glove on
00:20:46.280 the deep state. Would this term be a success or a failure in your mind? People will see the
00:20:54.580 incredible success and then MAGA, make America great again and make the world great again in this
00:21:01.180 global peace initiative, the golden age of the world. As Trump said, it has to start in America
00:21:05.600 where the central pillar of the West, the West falls, the whole world falls. I mean, that's really the
00:21:10.020 mission. American soft power, bringing back what made us the apple of the world's eye and the
00:21:15.400 destination. Yes, overall, they'll never get their full globalist plan, but they will still for
00:21:22.320 decades be able to destabilize and persecute people. And they will try to reinstitute their
00:21:29.140 carbon taxes, their Paris Accords, the transgender stuff that we still haven't fully defeated.
00:21:34.100 And so long term, they still lose, but it'll be much, much, much more painful. We've got to
00:21:39.880 aggressively get this done now. It must be done. It is an absolute death battle beyond existential
00:21:47.940 are all of our futures hanging in the balance. As Trump has said a thousand times, they're not
00:21:52.600 trying to get him. He's standing in the way of them getting to us. And the public has to understand
00:21:58.340 this is the number one issue. This is everything. And as the world begins to wake up to the globalist
00:22:05.040 tyranny and you will eat the bugs, that's happening. And you see the EU arresting their political
00:22:09.840 opposition, arresting, canceling elections. So people are really getting it, but we're seeing
00:22:14.760 the response of the globalists to not reform or course correct, but to double down, not just here,
00:22:20.040 but around the world. We have to double down with everything we've got. And it's got to be Trump's
00:22:25.760 leadership. He's got to call in Kosh and all of them and tell them, listen, because he's not stupid.
00:22:34.180 He knows that was a stand down to what happened at Butler. He knows that was a setup with Ukraine
00:22:38.720 money coming back through to try to kill him in Mar-a-Lago. He knows damn well. And if they don't
00:22:43.620 bring all this out, then it is just inviting them to continue to engage in all the criminal activity
00:22:50.780 they've engaged in. No, they know they want, you've said, okay, you've talked to senior people. You said,
00:22:56.220 hey, look, to go after the top guys now is too hard. We're going to go in and start rolling up and have
00:23:01.320 guys flip. Do you believe given the time we have, do you think that's a smart strategy, sir?
00:23:08.420 I mean, I'm not a federal prosecutor. I'm not a U.S. attorney. And I definitely studied it and
00:23:13.960 know enough to be dangerous. But all I know is, as you keep saying, this was a globalist revolution
00:23:20.940 in the country. Cloud and Pivot on steroids. We're not in the same place we were. This is a real war.
00:23:25.420 It's an emergency. They brought us in to bureaucratic, globalist, martial law, endless
00:23:30.700 emergency. So it's going to take serious medicine to get us out of that. Trump's not a tyrant. He's
00:23:36.720 a peacemaker. He wants stability. But we have to be ready, no, to put him in in 28. We need to 48,
00:23:45.000 47, not 86, 47. We have to be bold, aggressive, unapologetic. We're the good guys. We're fighting
00:23:53.320 the tyrants. We control the narrative. And we just have to be not arrogant, but laser-focused and
00:24:00.120 bullish and just blitzkrieg over them with the truth and not play patty cake. I watch Fox News
00:24:07.540 constantly congratulating themselves. Oh, was it ineptitude they didn't know that Trump—was it
00:24:13.720 ineptitude that they didn't know that Biden was a near vegetable? Or do they do it on purpose?
00:24:17.920 That's a false debate within a false debate. It's not about them lying. We knew they were lying. It's
00:24:22.960 about the coup of the last four years. We have to hammer the illegitimacy of that. We have to get
00:24:28.880 election integrity, enforce those executive orders, pull the federal funds from states that don't have
00:24:34.120 voter ID. We have to reinstitute the Judiciary Act of 1802, 1803, Thomas Jefferson. Congress should not
00:24:43.240 just talk about it. They should fire either selectively or all of these Article III judges.
00:24:48.820 This is war. We've got to take action now.
00:24:51.280 Wow. Alex Jones, man. Hey, I'm signing up for this. Now you know why Alex Jones is target number
00:24:58.020 one, and we ought to get those documents out there. You were target number one. Alex, where do people
00:25:02.020 go to get all your content, social media? You're the tip of the spear on this, and you're right. It's
00:25:07.360 an information war, but we've got to go on offense. We're not on offense right now, folks. We're on
00:25:11.620 offense and a lot of stuff President Trump's doing. I'm setting the economy, trying to stunt
00:25:14.700 the kinetic part of the Third World War, stop the invasion. But on the thing that we have to do,
00:25:20.560 which is take apart the deep state and salt the earth around it, a Carthaginian peace is the only
00:25:26.420 thing that we're going to call for. We're not there yet, and we've got to get there, and we've got to
00:25:30.620 get there rapidly. Alex, where do they go to get all your content and social media, sir?
00:25:35.340 It's been a long battle. There's a hearing on June 6th where they're still trying to shut us down.
00:25:40.400 I'm suing them. Paul Weiss Law Firm, we're really winning. There's a criminal investigation. I can
00:25:45.080 just leave it at that, what they've done. And I'll be up in D.C. soon for some meetings on that. But
00:25:50.720 bottom line, I'm at RealAlexJones on X. For now, Infowars.com forward slash show. And we are just
00:25:57.400 fighting, and we are pushing the truth out, and we are rallying the troops. I want to thank all of your
00:26:03.040 viewers and listeners for their great work. And I was at target number one. We were all in the first
00:26:09.300 target group, but yes, we were in the first wave that they attacked because we are the shock troops,
00:26:14.140 and I'm just blessed to be right beside you, Steve.
00:26:17.700 Alex, just before we go, we've got about a minute.
00:26:20.980 In this, because we've pulled you live from the day they were trying to shut you down,
00:26:26.380 the guys are in there in your control room ripping out cords. In that fight back to stay alive
00:26:33.540 as a broadcaster, you're saying your investigators, you have found criminal activity against you, sir?
00:26:40.160 Yes, we filed that in court. That's the hearing on the 6th. And I can tell you the Justice Department
00:26:44.180 is looking at it, and they've asked me to come up soon with all the data. And it's incredible.
00:26:50.380 We found out the Justice Department secretly funded the fake lawsuits, coordinated the Democrat
00:26:54.100 operative judges defaulting me, and they had literal show trials produced by HBO.
00:26:58.420 They had a fake auction back in November and wouldn't let anybody else bid, but said it was
00:27:04.080 a real auction. The judge found it was a fraud, the federal judge. But then he still just says,
00:27:11.640 well, if Paul Weiss law firm running this whole thing against me doesn't want somebody to buy
00:27:17.340 InfoWars, it'll just be shut down. And the Democrats have said, we don't want him on air.
00:27:21.120 We don't want money. We want him shut down. Of course, we built a backup network at AJ and
00:27:26.340 Live on X, and that's things built. But it's smaller. This is the hill we're dying on. We're
00:27:31.020 not giving up to the end. But that's what's going on. I mean, it has been wild. It has
00:27:36.320 been crazy. And you can read the filing from about a month ago in federal court that got
00:27:40.000 this hearing on the 6th coming up. We're filing more lawsuits. And we say in there, we show
00:27:45.880 the bankruptcy fraud. We show the criminality. We show it. Boom, boom, boom. It's cut and dry.
00:27:49.860 They've been so arrogant. And the Justice Department's very interested because they were so arrogant
00:27:53.680 with me. It's very cut and dry. And it goes right up to the Justice Department, right up
00:27:58.460 to the FBI. The FBI testified in the Connecticut show trial that they initiated the lawsuits
00:28:03.400 against me. So it's all been run by Comey.
00:28:06.060 Well, we're going to get all over it. That's why President Trump targeted Paul Weiss first
00:28:12.180 because they're the tip of the sphere. Alex, thank you so much. We got your back. God bless
00:28:16.980 you. What a warrior. What a patriot. What an American hero. The Alex Jones. Short break.
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00:29:47.820 today. War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. Okay, I'm going to go to the White House. Our own
00:29:57.700 Russ Vogt, the director, Office of Management and Budget. Russ, can you can you kind of summarize
00:30:04.320 where we are? The big, beautiful bill passed. Your structure of trying to bend the arc of mandatory
00:30:09.980 spending in the out years is now approved. Head to the Senate. Where do we stand, sir?
00:30:14.080 Obviously, we had a big vote this morning to get the bill out of the House, a massive bill. Any one
00:30:22.220 of these provisions in this bill would normally in a different era been the subject of months of the
00:30:27.460 debate. But we were able to do it in one bill and send it to the to the Senate. Well, the thing that
00:30:33.220 I want to unpack a couple of things. Number one, this is it is an enormous bill. It is much of our
00:30:38.800 agenda. But it is only one aspect of what a comprehensive budget picture is. And so like
00:30:45.300 this wasn't a budget resolution. This was a procedural device to get as much as your agenda
00:30:50.200 through the Senate and avoid a Senate filibuster. Doesn't include the tariffs, doesn't include the
00:30:55.340 discretionary fight that we're going to do on rescissions and cutting all the non-defense spending
00:31:00.660 that we sent up in our budget resolution. There's a lot of things that are part of a comprehensive
00:31:05.580 fiscal picture that gets you to balance. But what this bill does is it ends, I believe, 30 years of
00:31:12.240 futility with not being able to do anything substantial on mandatory savings. The last time
00:31:18.320 we had any real victory was 1997 with passage of the balanced budget agreement, which of course had
00:31:24.120 welfare reform as part of it. This bill has nearly $2 trillion by all the as the scores get updated
00:31:31.380 based on the changes that House conservatives were able to work with us on. This bill will have
00:31:35.980 nearly $2 trillion in mandatory savings, more than double what was achieved in 1997. And it will
00:31:44.020 mean as a result of reasonable economic growth assumptions over 10 and the mandatory savings that
00:31:50.520 are part of this bill, that this bill will reduce the deficit and will help us with our debt. And I
00:31:56.340 believe the most important thing we need is actually victories on our side of the football field.
00:32:02.400 That's what this bill does. And that's what we have not had for 30 years. It also then sets us up
00:32:08.000 for an enormous fight on non-defense appropriations, the woke, the weaponized bureaucracy. That is still
00:32:13.940 going to happen this year. This bill makes it easier because we are taking for all of our homeland
00:32:19.500 security increases and our defense increases that are normally the kinds of things that cause
00:32:23.800 Republicans or Democrats to be divided. It keeps us from having a rock down fight on non-defense
00:32:31.580 discretionary later this year. This bill, in fact, sets that up. So it's, I'm extremely excited about
00:32:37.500 it. Obviously, President Trump closed it out yesterday. And now we go to the Senate to try to
00:32:41.860 get as much of this and hopefully more as we possibly can.
00:32:46.060 No, here's a closer, but here's the thing. In selling it to the bond market, the growth rate,
00:32:51.020 which I think can be justified. The House used 2.6. HASS is talking about 3% or more. But I think
00:32:57.140 the things on the supply site, that can be sold. Your additional cuts and rescissions, I don't think
00:33:03.000 is in here. That can be sold. The tariffs. I don't know. The tariffs are going to be at least a couple
00:33:08.240 hundred billion dollars, maybe three. I hear as much as half a trillion dollars. That can't be scored
00:33:13.260 by CBO. We got that. But in a big, beautiful package, it can be sold to the bond market. I've got
00:33:19.480 Scott Besson. I've got Russ Vogt. I got Hassett, maybe even Morant and Navarro. I got three, four,
00:33:26.480 five, throw in Lutnik, of people that understand these and can explain it to capital markets.
00:33:33.480 What is the plan for that? I got a big, beautiful bill, but it's not comprehensive because certain
00:33:37.940 things can't be in it because of the nature of the reconciliation. When are we going to go? Because
00:33:43.100 I think that's when people understand, well, hey, maybe I want more 10-year treasuries and I'm not
00:33:48.360 going to charge you, you know, what, 4.6% or, you know, over five on the 30s. When are we going to have
00:33:54.380 a comprehensive, if anybody can sell something, it's Donald Trump, right? Because he's a deal guy.
00:33:59.580 He knows capital markets. When are we going to get on offense and push what you just said,
00:34:04.560 which is a winning message and happens to be reality?
00:34:09.700 No, it's something we've been trying to do over the last week, you know, particularly because
00:34:13.340 we got the news from Moody's. And look, with Moody's, you know, I think there's some Liz Truss
00:34:17.980 attacks going on with regard to the timing of this. They were basically trying to get themselves
00:34:22.720 updated for being irrelevant for the last 15 years. In terms of what's the substance of what
00:34:28.120 the credit ratings have said over years is, look, there's been no success towards moving
00:34:33.940 the structural debt and deficits from mandatory savings. We think we accomplished that. But to
00:34:38.620 your point, your question, we believe that the tariffs are a part of this. The tariffs are
00:34:44.580 happening right now. Everyone thinks the president's negotiating these bills. We are on a current
00:34:50.180 glide path right now for $3 trillion over 10 years, notwithstanding how the reciprocal agreements
00:34:57.500 end up. That's based on the things that are in place right now that we are seeing record levels
00:35:03.880 of tariffs. And they are coming in to the extent over 10 years of $3 trillion. We are going to send
00:35:09.980 up rescissions bills. There's this meme out there that we're not sending rescissions bills up.
00:35:14.180 We have a $9 billion package of doge cuts to foreign aid and Corporation for Public Broadcasting
00:35:19.760 and NPR. It is almost ready to go up. Why is the delay? The delay is because the House actually wants
00:35:25.900 to pass it. And we have been working with House appropriators, Tom Cole, Mario Diaz-Ballart. For the
00:35:30.920 first time in history, I've had conversations with the House appropriators. They want to pass it in
00:35:35.580 the House and put pressure on the Senate. I don't want to send rescissions bills up there that go
00:35:39.780 nowhere. And then, of course, we remain committed in keeping impoundment on the table. So if they don't
00:35:45.240 move these cuts, we are still going to have our executive tools to, in fiscal year 25,
00:35:50.260 in fiscal year 25, to bend and cut and reduce woke and weaponized bureaucracy and make doge cuts
00:35:58.320 permanent. So this is a comprehensive picture. Those three things, because CBO, because of the nature of
00:36:05.420 it, can't score certain things. In reconciliation, you can't discuss things because of the way. But
00:36:10.620 I count from Hassett, on growth rates of what they say they can back up, and I think they can,
00:36:18.520 $4 trillion of additional tax revenues coming in on the reduced tax structure we've got. Number one,
00:36:24.840 you just said $3 trillion over 10 on tariffs, minimum. That's $300. You add the $400 billion
00:36:31.320 of additional growth, tax growth, and you add the $300 billion. I'm at $700 billion. All of a sudden,
00:36:37.280 that you throw in some rescissions, I'm getting close to the trillion dollars that we talked about
00:36:42.860 cutting. This gets you on the six and a half, the glide slope to three and a half. Zero hedge
00:36:47.300 and everybody reporting, hey, the six and a half goes to seven. The reason is we're not on a full
00:36:53.060 offense, relentless about you're not looking at the math right, and here's the math. And if you do that,
00:36:59.460 the bond market's going to react because right now we're playing with one hand tied behind our back
00:37:03.880 because of the constraints of the reconciliation process, sir.
00:37:10.960 Couldn't say it better. We have to zoom out. We got to show the full picture of what this
00:37:15.720 administration is accomplishing across the board. And once we tell that story, people will be as
00:37:22.280 excited as I am, as OMB has been in helping shepherd this to the completion and getting the president to
00:37:29.400 be able to get it across the finish line. Why? Because it ends fiscal futility. We haven't had
00:37:34.920 any victories on this side of the football field in nearly 30 years, and now we're talking about
00:37:40.360 $2 trillion in mandatory savings. Yeah. One thing. Okay, Russ, so the reason for that has not really
00:37:49.440 been the House. It's been the Senate. And you got 19 collaborators up there that worked with Biden
00:37:54.360 and Mitch McConnell to agree to all this madness and spending that drove inflation that got us into
00:38:00.300 this situation with the debt. When does Russ vote go sit down with the Senate and say, guys,
00:38:05.940 you can't make this any, we need to make this even better. You can't make it worse because that is
00:38:10.580 the heart. For the audience out there, the heavy lift, as heavy as it was in the House,
00:38:16.740 a heavier lift is the Senate. Is it not, sir? We think that we're going to have a great
00:38:24.460 set of progress and getting this through the Senate. Look, here's the dynamic. We're up there
00:38:30.400 all the time. I'll be up there all the time. We've got a lot of members. The Republican Conference
00:38:36.080 wants to do something historic. They want to do something that's big and beautiful. They want to
00:38:40.900 get it done. We believe that a three-seat majority in the House just proved that you could do the
00:38:47.480 magnitude and the scale of what we're now talking about. I think it puts pressure on the Senate to
00:38:52.660 do it. And I think we have members in the Senate as well that are going to, because the fiscal hawks
00:38:58.400 in the Senate are going to demand that we hit the House number and be able to build upon it. And so I
00:39:04.540 think this is something that, you know, we're hoping to get it done as soon as we possibly can and get
00:39:09.560 it to the president's desk before July 4th. A thousand conversations between now and then need
00:39:14.820 to occur, but I'm not expecting a ton of resistance. Wow. Russ Vogt, where do we go? Thanks for taking
00:39:21.560 time today to visit with us. Where do we go to follow you on social media, sir? At Russ Vogt and now
00:39:28.260 at OMB Press. Okay. By the way, Russ, all those profiles I read about you, you're not that bad a guy,
00:39:37.380 are you? The media, these things are like you're Darth Vader. You're not that bad. You're actually a
00:39:42.420 pretty nice guy. Just your boring neighborhood budget guy, Steve. Russ, you're a warrior. Thank
00:39:51.720 you, sir. Thank you for helping the president. Thanks, Steve. Appreciate it. Russ Vogt, patriot and
00:39:58.680 warrior right there. They're coming after Russ. Big league. They understand he's the glue that holds it
00:40:06.320 together. You heard it right there. I think we've got to get a full package and you got to press.
00:40:12.160 This thing's got to be sold. The Moody's thing is not a coincidence. They did it on the eve of the
00:40:17.560 vote for a reason. They had decades to do this. And what did they do? They didn't do it during Biden's
00:40:22.480 thing. Give me a break. Give me a fricking break. Do we have the, do we have the Luigi,
00:40:27.200 Luigi? Can I do the forks in the road? Is that teed up? Can we go and call the call for that?
00:40:31.160 Yeah. Yeah. Let's go and play. I want to play this. I want to talk about they had an
00:40:36.940 assassination. That's what it was last night. Assassination to assassination in thing.
00:40:43.380 Okay. We ready? Anytime. Let's go. Let's hit it.
00:40:49.540 And here's the thing. The alternative, the populist nationalist offer is an alternative that
00:40:55.260 you can see the sunlit up once tons of change has to happen. But the other alternative, I'm telling
00:41:01.000 you, is this Luigi, the look has treated like a hero. He's treated like Robin Hood. That should
00:41:08.200 scare you to the marrow of your bones, because that's the alternative. If the system keeps going
00:41:14.080 like it is, that alternative is your alternative. We offer the populist nationalists offer something
00:41:19.980 you're not going to love, but you'll be able to live with. Right. Particularly when it comes to
00:41:25.960 spending money, your money. So I said yesterday in front of this world, the system we have is not
00:41:34.040 sustainable. Our alternative makes it sustainable. But if you continue on the path, you're going to
00:41:41.560 get Luigi. And Luigi is going to be gunning for those people in that audience, which I think the
00:41:48.660 audience understood what I was saying. They took it to heart, let's say. We've talked for years about
00:41:55.480 the red-green merger. This is this radical Marxism, neo-Marxism, combining with radical jihad. You saw
00:42:02.140 it last night in Washington, D.C. Gunned down a couple of young people outside, I think, of a Jewish,
00:42:08.140 some sort of Jewish get-together. The young guy who happened to be a Christian, I think engaged to a
00:42:12.720 Jewish girl. Gunned him down in cold blood, just like Luigi. And he's put out a manifesto. We'll make
00:42:18.320 sure we'll go through the manifesto. Maybe I'll make sure we'll do that at five o'clock. But this
00:42:24.900 is what I was warning about. This merger of the BLM and the radical neo-Marxist with the jihadists,
00:42:33.240 because the guy was yelling, free Palestine. This is going to be a thing. What's this guy's name,
00:42:41.160 Rodriguez or Gonzalez? He clearly doesn't appear to be a Muslim. The free Palestine is now part of
00:42:48.940 this neo-Marxist. It's the red-green merger. And this is going to get a lot more violent. I keep
00:42:54.860 telling people this. They're going to get a lot more violent. These people are out of control. They
00:43:00.000 are violent people, and they're being goaded on by people that want them to have violence. And that guy
00:43:05.900 was right there and was, I don't know if he ran away or didn't run away, but he was captured by
00:43:10.580 the authorities or at least security immediately. He's taken two young lives, and his life's over.
00:43:16.780 He'll spend, you know, they'll put him in a supermax for the rest of his life. These people are being
00:43:24.580 goaded on by very sophisticated and very bad people that want to destroy this republic.
00:43:30.480 This red-green merger, you've seen it in Europe. You've seen it in London. This is the radical
00:43:35.280 neo-Marxist left with the Sharia supremacists of the jihadist movement. Short commercial break.
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00:45:12.220 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:45:14.720 Okay, so Noor, just walk me through this. We're, in fact, I don't think we send observers.
00:45:27.320 Correct me if I'm wrong. I think President Trump's pretty adamant. Hey, we're out. He considers we're
00:45:31.440 out now. Officially takes place in January. But they have been there passing things. The question
00:45:40.900 the audience wants to know, how is that going to affect U.S. citizens? We're not part of the World
00:45:46.600 Health Organization. We're acting like we're out already. But in January, we're out. And President
00:45:51.700 Trump, God bless him, this is what I voted for. He ain't sending the money for 24 and 25. He's saying
00:45:56.980 no. When I say out, we're out. And they're having to scramble. And by the way, all these guys talking
00:46:02.720 about they're going to put this up and they're going to do this. And Bill Gates, you watch. If they're not
00:46:06.120 living off U.S. taxpayers, nothing happens. This thing will be crumbling as people. What did they
00:46:12.320 actually pass? And what impact does it have on citizens of these United States if we're not part
00:46:19.460 of the World Health Organization, ma'am? I'll answer your question. After that, I'd really like to come
00:46:26.140 back to the question on the budget and how the fact that the U.S. isn't is leaving the WHO and won't be
00:46:32.240 paying their membership fees is causing so many ripple effects here in Geneva. But to answer your
00:46:38.860 question, there is something that is very critical. And the first thing I'd like to say is that the
00:46:44.300 WHO makes it extremely convoluted and confusing on purpose. They don't want the public to be informed.
00:46:52.280 They don't want the public to really know what's going on. But I'll try my best to break it down.
00:46:57.800 In essence, on Monday, on the first day of the World Health Assembly, the WHA, they had an initial vote
00:47:06.400 in order to bring the pandemic agreement to the floor on the Tuesday morning where it was
00:47:14.400 officially adopted. This is what we discussed yesterday. And we saw the video of everybody
00:47:19.280 clapping and the WHO leaders calling this a win for multilateralism. But it was extremely deceiving
00:47:29.240 because the pandemic agreement wasn't signed, Steve. It cannot be signed because the annex hasn't
00:47:37.420 been approved or even drafted yet. And this annex is the core of the agreement. And this is what
00:47:45.340 they're going to be working on for the next year. The only problem is that from a PR standpoint,
00:47:50.880 they couldn't come up this year and be like, oh, we're delaying it again, which is what they did
00:47:55.280 last year. They've been working on this thing for the past three years. And so they had to mitigate
00:48:00.480 this, you know, PR disaster, which is, you know, frankly, a total fiasco by claiming victory when in fact
00:48:07.380 there isn't a victory. And so the next step is for them to continue negotiating the annex of the pandemic
00:48:15.300 agreement towards a target of actually signing the document at next year's WHA at the 79th World Health
00:48:24.100 Assembly. And once that gets proposed and there are 60 ratifications, 60 signatures, then that will
00:48:31.860 come in effect. But by then, the United States of America won't be a part of the WHO. So technically,
00:48:38.680 the U.S. shouldn't be impacted by the pandemic agreement.
00:48:42.180 Hang on, hang on. But if I go overseas, or if I work for an overseas company, or if I do anything
00:48:49.180 overseas that's going to impact me, because isn't this passing all the stuff with the digital IDs and
00:48:56.700 everything, all the evil we try to get out of this, we walked away, which is smart.
00:49:03.720 But aren't they going to try to put a noose around the United States by doing this, ma'am?
00:49:09.920 And my point is, we're going to have to get more aggressive. Just walking away is one thing,
00:49:14.300 but we're going to have to get more aggressive in combating what they're doing. We just can't be
00:49:18.940 passive. Can we? Just by just by us being there doesn't mean that this thing's not good. They're not
00:49:23.280 going to try to roll up U.S. citizens. We're just not a signatory, correct?
00:49:27.900 That's an absolute critical point you just made, Steve. And this is why I mentioned it yesterday,
00:49:32.980 but I'm going to reiterate this point because it's so important. You guys in the United States
00:49:38.120 of America need to ask President Trump and the Trump administration to reject the amendments to
00:49:44.220 the international health regulations that were adopted at last year's World Health Assembly. And you
00:49:51.060 have until July 19 to reject those amendments, which are actually the legal, which is the legal
00:49:59.240 instrument that the WHO is using to put that noose that you've described.
00:50:04.500 Okay. You just answered my question. Okay. So here's what we need to do. This is one of the
00:50:07.820 things we're going to have to get up on the ramparts. I need, we're going to get you back
00:50:10.980 and I want to take, and maybe I do a six o'clock show. I got a little more time to go through this
00:50:15.460 and maybe we do that for next week, but I want to take like an hour and I want to go through
00:50:21.760 exactly what it is. And then we'll obviously weaponize the board and posse because we have
00:50:27.120 to go on offense. Step one, which President Trump has done with all the work and all the support of,
00:50:32.880 of the board and everybody else, Michelle Bachman is to tell these people, screw you. We ain't paying
00:50:37.840 for this. This is absurd. We're out. And he's adamant, including not paying these last couple of years.
00:50:44.100 So he's throwing that hard. However, we need to go on offense and going on offense. You're saying
00:50:49.260 step one is to make sure that the United States comes out and says, we're not party to the
00:50:54.400 amendments, right? That not only that we're going to sign them, but they have no jurisdiction over
00:50:59.120 the United States. Is that what it is? Exactly. And I mean, there are so many resources and this is
00:51:05.300 the job that my friend Nick and I did with the website, weheardothers.com to put all of these
00:51:10.700 resources, but specifically when it comes to the question of these amendments and the importance to
00:51:16.600 reject them by the deadline of July 19th. There is one specific website that James Roguski has put
00:51:23.420 together, which is rejecttheamendments.com. And that's the one website the posse needs to go to
00:51:29.740 in order to educate and, and, and understand what is at stake here.
00:51:35.180 So we're going to put it all up. What's your, what's all the kind, where did they go for you
00:51:40.220 and social media? I'm going to work with you over the weekend. We're going to get you back next week.
00:51:43.600 We're going to get up and make sure that by July 9th, no later than July 19th, the United States has
00:51:49.040 rejected these. And that's step one of going on offense. You got to go on offense against these
00:51:53.700 people. Otherwise you're your pass or the crusher. Where do people go nor to get you?
00:51:57.120 Uh, norbinladen.substack.com, uh, norbinladen on Twitter. And, uh, once more with regards to the
00:52:06.260 WHO, we heard others.com. Perfect. Norbin Laden, an audience favorite. I might add. Thank you so
00:52:16.060 much, ma'am. Appreciate you. Thank you. I love the posse. Always great to be with you guys.
00:52:20.500 Fantastic. Boy, Bacia and Noor in one, in two blocks. How about that? Who's giving you that?
00:52:31.000 Come on, man. That's why the war room is the war room bringing you fighters. This WHO, it's reign of
00:52:40.500 terror over citizens of this Republic is over and we're going to make sure it's over. We're not only
00:52:48.880 going to tear this thing apart, we're going to bury it. And we're going to tell them how much dirt
00:52:52.580 we're putting on top of it. Okay. On its grave. Short commercial break. If we figure this out,
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