Bannon's War Room - June 02, 2025


Episode 4529： Rise Of Threat Of World War 3


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

165.90628

Word Count

9,188

Sentence Count

745

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

18


Summary

Stephen K. Bannon is back in the War Room. He talks about the latest in the Ukraine crisis, Mike Lellell's trial, and much more. Plus, the latest on the Korean crisis and much, much more!


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:07.820 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:13.060 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:17.320 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:19.260 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:20.680 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:22.420 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:23.360 It's going to happen.
00:00:24.620 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:28.020 Mega Media.
00:00:28.920 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.820 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38.560 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.920 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:52.300 Monday to June, year of our Lord, 2025.
00:00:54.620 Mike Lindell's trial of the century starts in Colorado this morning.
00:00:58.640 I think even as we speak, couldn't get Mike up this morning before he went in.
00:01:04.620 I'm sure they're quite busy with all this in federal court.
00:01:08.660 Also, other events out in Colorado we're going to deal with.
00:01:11.500 Germany's here on Thursday after TASS said that they are targeting, they're doing targeting exercises, the Russian military in Berlin.
00:01:23.820 And this before this weekend, this weekend attack by the Ukrainians and counterattack by the Russians.
00:01:31.820 I don't know what message that sends to Bibi.
00:01:36.240 I don't know.
00:01:37.040 Hey, we didn't know about it.
00:01:38.440 Nobody gave us a heads up.
00:01:40.780 Nobody gave us a heads up.
00:01:41.960 I think the National Security Council has got to step in here.
00:01:44.140 I don't know why Ratcliffe's saying we're not getting ready to any CIA guys.
00:01:51.140 Something's very, very, very wrong here.
00:01:55.060 Either, number one, if the White House didn't have a heads up, that to me should be you should condemn this attack today.
00:02:04.420 You should say we're pulling all support today.
00:02:07.220 And you should tell Lindsey Graham, get on a plane here, dude, and get back and stop stirring the pot.
00:02:12.360 Okay?
00:02:12.760 And you should put a notice to the guys in the Senate.
00:02:15.880 We're already trading the big, beautiful bill.
00:02:19.800 You know, and you're talking a lot of smack over the Senate.
00:02:22.040 We're going to cut.
00:02:22.640 We're going to cut.
00:02:23.220 We're going to cut.
00:02:23.720 Do not add any money because this is what Lindsey Graham's saying.
00:02:27.120 The House and the Senate are going to add big dollars for Ukraine.
00:02:29.460 Not happening.
00:02:30.040 We should, if we did not know about it, and let's take that as his face, if we didn't, if they didn't give us a heads up on it, that is going, that's dragging us in it.
00:02:41.720 They did a strike 3,000 miles into Russia.
00:02:45.740 As we said last week when Mertz said, oh, we got, you know, the ability to hit deep, we got sign of America supports that.
00:02:53.400 There was no verification of that.
00:02:55.380 I don't believe.
00:02:56.080 I never saw any official verification of that.
00:03:00.040 And there are no coincidences.
00:03:02.760 So he says that last week, and then they hit 3,000 miles in.
00:03:05.400 I realize everybody was thinking about it as the missiles.
00:03:08.480 They did it in a paramilitary attack.
00:03:11.400 Quite audacious.
00:03:12.540 Quite brilliant.
00:03:14.840 Hat tip to them.
00:03:15.720 But that's not about the hat tip on the tactics of doing this.
00:03:19.060 This is hurtling up the escalatory ladder when President Trump is spending all his time trying to do the exact opposite, starting to say, yo, guns down.
00:03:29.280 Let's figure this thing out.
00:03:31.160 Let's get to a ceasefire, then a peace deal.
00:03:33.520 Let's have prosperity.
00:03:36.940 Let's have jobs and creativity and rebuilding and all that.
00:03:40.200 As you know, in this show, we're not, we were not excited by the economic deal they did, but said, hey, if this is part of President Trump's, is this what he's doing?
00:03:51.800 That prosperity is going to lead us to peace?
00:03:53.500 Okay.
00:03:53.820 It's a better idea than anybody else has come up with.
00:04:00.180 This is going to drag us to, and tonight, tomorrow, we're going to lose, it looks like, and it doesn't look like it's going to be close right now.
00:04:07.500 Hopefully the Korean people and with the team that's been over there, that's gone over, although there was no CPAC-like kind of push, and I want to give Matt Schlapp and Posobiec and Kevin and everybody just a big hat tip on this.
00:04:18.680 In fact, let's go to Kevin Posobiec in Warsaw.
00:04:21.240 Kevin, talk to you about the energy you guys provided at CPAC.
00:04:25.320 I mean, like Jack said so brainily, the leaders of the party had to go right to get every vote out there and let the right wing know that these guys are going to be hardliners.
00:04:38.880 Talk to me about the energy, enthusiasm, and where we stand today with all that energy coming with a come-from-behind, this is like 2016 come-from-behind victory, sir.
00:04:51.240 It sure is, it sure is, Steve, and I was with a lot of the people from the campaign last night, and they were part in so much, so we got kicked out by the neighbors for moving the chairs around too much.
00:05:01.200 But listen, yeah, we were at CPAC in Ježov and then CPAC in Budapest as well, and the Posos have quite a bit of a reputation now over here.
00:05:12.320 And, you know, listen, the skies are clearing over my shoulder here, over the Vistula River, and the globalist storm has ended.
00:05:20.740 I'm here to report that.
00:05:22.580 And also, you know, it's almost time to break out the accordion and the polka tap dancing shoes over here.
00:05:32.160 You know, the energy, the energy is, it's still building, I got to say, I got to say.
00:05:40.120 Earlier, they were kind of pensive about, you know, especially what happened with Romania, how they stole the election there.
00:05:45.900 But, I mean, you could see Tchaikovsky conceded this morning, so it's game on.
00:05:52.920 It's game on.
00:05:54.160 And, yeah, thanks to Jack and especially, yeah, CPAC and really just the connection we have to America, being able to, you know, through social media, connect to each other almost in real time now to broadcast a message.
00:06:09.460 Nationalism, patriotism, you know, and all of that.
00:06:13.920 They love MAGA and they love President Trump.
00:06:17.400 Where do people get your social media, Kevin?
00:06:20.460 Great job over there.
00:06:21.260 Where do people find you on social media?
00:06:23.780 You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Kevin Posovic and also at Human Events Daily.
00:06:30.880 Yeah, so at Kevin Posovic.
00:06:33.520 And stay tuned.
00:06:34.080 I'll be here for at least another day or so, rallying with the Polish Patriots.
00:06:40.740 Thank you, brother.
00:06:41.900 We know how the Posovics can rally.
00:06:43.760 Kevin, great job.
00:06:45.940 Matt Schlapp, great job.
00:06:47.280 And, by the way, thank folks for letting us use the studio there.
00:06:51.420 Fantastic shot.
00:06:53.520 Matt Schlapp, the entire team, Mo Bannon, all of them.
00:06:56.380 Great job.
00:06:57.040 That's the urgency.
00:06:57.740 I wish we had done that.
00:06:58.460 I wish we had had the opportunity to do that in South Korea because that's exactly the kind of pop,
00:07:03.800 the South Koreans needed.
00:07:05.820 Going to be very, very, very bad tonight if it goes the way it looks like it's going to go.
00:07:09.640 The South Koreans hopefully will step up to the plate, the conservatives there, because it's all on the line.
00:07:15.260 This is going to be political warfare at its most brilliant.
00:07:19.060 The CCP has taken a long time to work this strategy through.
00:07:21.760 They actually have the control of a political party that looks like it's on the cusp of winning at the ballot box.
00:07:28.120 And when I say ballot box, there's already massive discussion about election fraud already, as we talked about,
00:07:34.260 as we've had our Korean team on for the last couple of days.
00:07:38.060 Boone Cutler, you and General Flynn came out with that great book about 5G warfare,
00:07:42.540 the next generation of actually the warfare that's going on, fifth generation warfare.
00:07:46.580 How does everything you see unfolding right now fit into you and General Flynn's theory of the case, sir?
00:07:54.640 I think you're seeing it all over the place.
00:07:58.040 I think you're seeing it with the AI.
00:07:59.800 I mean, just like you said earlier, this move on Taiwan is to deny access to those chips to the United States.
00:08:07.260 That is the currency.
00:08:08.420 That is the fuel.
00:08:09.220 That is the powering apparatus of today's world is going to be those AI chips.
00:08:14.740 Right now, Taiwan, they've got like $500 billion worth of chips there now,
00:08:20.180 not to mention another $500 billion in infrastructure that the CCP can grab at any given time and deny us that access.
00:08:27.220 That's a big point with this fifth generation warfare.
00:08:30.440 The political warfare you've spoken about in South Korea right now, huge aspect.
00:08:36.880 The United States is not doing enough political warfare against our adversaries.
00:08:41.920 We're simply falling asleep at the wheel.
00:08:43.920 We need to get into the game with all this stuff.
00:08:46.060 We need to get into the game against the political warfare via specifically the Department of Defense in mainland China.
00:08:55.180 We need to start going after the CCP that way.
00:08:57.580 We need to activate the people inside mainland China that are willing to stand up against the government.
00:09:03.000 We need to go to these depths that we've gone in the past when we were fighting major adversaries, and we didn't hold back.
00:09:09.560 And you brought up earlier that I think was a very, very good point about the deep state interference within our own government that's preventing us from taking action.
00:09:18.300 And I think the best way to get really down to brass tacks and to solve that issue is to bring General Flynn back as national security advisor,
00:09:26.560 because this president needs a wartime consigliere, and there is nobody better than General Mike Flynn.
00:09:33.040 Let me ask you, there is a wing of the MAGA movement, right, that would say,
00:09:40.520 yo, Boone, your whole thing about regime change and getting into the – look, we're the biggest believers you've got of regime change in China
00:09:48.520 because the CCP is not legitimate, and it was propped up by the American government that turned it over to them in 1949.
00:09:53.520 And again, Bush 41 and Scowcroft and this crowd had their back in Tiananmen Square.
00:10:00.920 And by the way, we're going to do our traditional Tiananmen activity starting Tuesday night at 6 p.m.,
00:10:07.200 and we'll be live.
00:10:08.080 We'll have a live shot at dawn as it breaks over Beijing, and we will – and then we'll continue on the 4th with our commemoration of Tiananmen.
00:10:18.460 But there are people, Boone, that say, hey, look, all this activity around Persia that you guys are all trying to run around,
00:10:24.900 Flynn's always trying to run around and get these dissonants to overthrow the government, the China.
00:10:29.020 This is exactly why we're wrapped around the axle.
00:10:32.520 It's one of the reasons we got a trillion-dollar defense budget because you guys are neocon-lite.
00:10:38.480 You're not – you don't want to go on guns blazing, but you're still getting us involved in situations we shouldn't be involved in.
00:10:44.480 Your response, Boone Cutler.
00:10:45.960 My response is this.
00:10:48.440 If you're in the middle of a fight, does it matter if you win or does it matter how you got there?
00:10:54.060 I think it matters more that you win, but not necessarily how you got there.
00:10:59.040 And when you're talking about geopolitics, you're talking about prison rules.
00:11:02.560 It can't just be everything done with a feather.
00:11:04.940 Sometimes you have to have a hammer, and sometimes that hammer needs to be non-attributable.
00:11:08.860 So when I talk about, you know, going into different countries and regime change, and I know General Flynn is probably on the same sheet of music, that these aren't countries that we're trying to go in and do regime change in because we simply don't like that regime, because we don't like how they treat their people, and because we're going to stick our nose in it.
00:11:28.300 No, these are countries that are viable threats to the United States and to our way of life, and the way the wars are waged is in this way.
00:11:37.340 They do it to us.
00:11:38.580 You've seen it in our own country where they've had uprisings that have been foreign influenced.
00:11:43.340 We do it to them.
00:11:44.360 Everybody does it to everybody.
00:11:45.580 This is the way the game is played.
00:11:47.620 So I would say to those folks, God bless you.
00:11:50.460 You're good people, and I understand why you believe the way you believe.
00:11:53.940 But when we're talking about war and when we're talking about protecting our country, if someone is a threat, you eliminate the threat.
00:12:01.580 That's how you keep food on your table.
00:12:03.360 That's how you keep gas in your car.
00:12:04.900 That's how you make sure your kids get through college and start off with a very nice life.
00:12:09.460 This is the way things are done.
00:12:10.620 So, Boone, talk to me about are you concerned about flashpoints here in the United States of what you're seeing here recently?
00:12:17.320 Biggest thing I'm worried about is China's presence in the United States, and not just politically, because China does have a presence in the United States politically, but also their physical presence.
00:12:26.980 I mean, everything that just happened in Russia with these drones, people have got to start looking very hard about this land that's owned by the CCP around our military installations.
00:12:38.680 They could launch that same type of attack right here, not to mention all those container ships that are floating in the Gulf of America.
00:12:48.740 Every one of those container ships could be launching the same type of thing.
00:12:52.760 Now, I like the idea of the Golden Dome, but these things that I'm talking about would be working underneath the Golden Dome because they quite possibly might already be here.
00:13:03.260 And if we're having these intelligence failures with things that are happening there, we've got to also assume that maybe we're having intelligence failures in other places as well.
00:13:13.640 And that's why I'm advocating that General Flynn needs to get in there.
00:13:16.280 If there's one guy that's not going to be taken by the deep state, if there's one guy who absolutely knows how to get down to brass tacks and start cleaning things out, it's not just General Mike Flynn, but it's also General Charlie Flynn.
00:13:27.860 As a matter of fact, I want to just talk about Charlie Flynn's, General Flynn's, the other General Flynn's testimony last week, because we're going to talk about the third island chain tonight as we go to Korea.
00:13:42.920 We're going to start with Cleo Pascal in the 6 o'clock hour.
00:13:45.880 Booney, can you hang around for a second?
00:13:47.240 We also got Ben Harnwell in Rome.
00:13:50.560 Rudy's going to join us.
00:13:52.260 We got so much to break down.
00:13:53.500 The big, beautiful bill.
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00:13:55.440 Also, Mike Davis, big article in The New York Times, how President Trump's tariffs were undone in the federal court system, wait for it, by an amicus brief filed by conservative lawyers.
00:14:12.900 The Federalist Society rears its ugly head in coming after populist nationalist economic policy.
00:14:22.100 As driven by a guy named President Donald John Trump.
00:14:28.380 He can't make this stuff up.
00:14:30.640 Unbelievable.
00:14:31.660 We're going to get to all that in the 5 o'clock hour and break down some economics.
00:14:34.760 Rudy's going to join us here in a moment.
00:14:37.340 Commemoration about the great Bernie Carrick.
00:14:39.520 Also, Rudy's going to, I'm going to get Rudy's opinion on what's happening.
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00:17:52.120 Ben Harnwell, you're telling me there's a news break coming out of Turkey.
00:17:56.340 What is it?
00:17:56.820 Sir, I thought we were making peace today.
00:17:58.220 I thought they were going to sit there.
00:17:59.200 I thought Erdogan would put this together to cut a deal, sir.
00:18:03.200 Morning, Steve.
00:18:03.960 Well, you know, perhaps that's what the mainstream media would have liked to have believed.
00:18:09.260 So basically today in Istanbul, Constantinople, there was the second round of these peace talks hosted by the Turkish government.
00:18:17.720 The first round was a couple of weeks ago, and it produced the largest exchange of prisoners of war from the two sides, the Russians and the Ukrainians.
00:18:26.680 And the mainstream media was hyping this meeting that started today, all of last week.
00:18:33.040 I didn't have high hopes for it, really because you really need the Russians to be present there with at least someone of the level of Sergei Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister.
00:18:43.080 He wasn't there.
00:18:43.900 President Putin sent an aide, I think Vladimir Medensky, just a presidential aide.
00:18:50.920 It was hosted by the Turkish foreign minister.
00:18:53.100 The rumor of the Ukrainian foreign minister was there.
00:18:56.180 But without the Russians, it was just performative.
00:18:57.960 Steve, my point on this is very simple.
00:19:01.340 OK, my synthesis of this.
00:19:02.480 By all accounts, the talks were wrapped up with an exchange of memoranda from the two sides, which could have been done by email.
00:19:11.560 There was no need for physical presence.
00:19:13.360 The meeting itself, I gather, lasted about 45 minutes.
00:19:19.360 And there was without conclusions.
00:19:21.260 My point, Steve, is this, right?
00:19:22.800 Yesterday, as you've been discussing in the first half of the show, Zelensky launched this very successful and brilliant drone attack on the Russian strategic war planes.
00:19:39.940 He's been planning on this for 18 months.
00:19:41.840 Why did he launch this the day before he was supposed to sit down for these peace talks?
00:19:48.720 This is something already that the media is starting to call the Russian Pearl Harbor because, Steve, the guy is not interested in peace.
00:19:56.160 That's my takeaway on the timing of this.
00:19:59.120 Vladimir Zelensky is not interested in peace.
00:20:01.540 He can't come out and say it because the Western media would lacerate him.
00:20:06.560 He has to pretend to be totally interested in peace.
00:20:09.940 But hold it.
00:20:10.440 But he said it.
00:20:11.500 That it's Putin.
00:20:12.020 He said it on the eve of, hang on, on the eve of peace talks or ceasefire talks.
00:20:16.820 He takes the Japanese role in the Pearl Harbor, the sneak attack.
00:20:23.760 And listen, I'm not saying that audacious, brilliant, courageous.
00:20:28.960 You can say all those things.
00:20:30.020 It was all those.
00:20:31.580 But President Trump, we're trying to have guys lay down their weapons and say, let's figure out how we get prosperity.
00:20:37.860 We signed an economic deal that we hate, right, and tie yourself somewhat with these guys.
00:20:43.180 President Trump did that because that's his theory of the case.
00:20:46.960 We're going to create prosperity.
00:20:48.660 And through prosperity, all boats rise and we can put our guns down.
00:20:53.740 He just told the world he's not interested in peace.
00:20:56.140 He doesn't need a synagogue.
00:20:57.160 I'm not interested in peace.
00:20:57.980 You know what he does?
00:20:59.140 Sends a couple of hundred drones to take out their strategic bombers, Ben Harnwell.
00:21:02.760 Look, I'm going to dissent ever so slightly from the analysis that you were chewing over with POSSA earlier on in the show.
00:21:11.960 And the reason is I don't I never overestimate the competence of any government branch, at least alone the intelligence agencies.
00:21:20.640 So it is quite possible for me, quite possible that that that the that the U.S. hadn't been informed.
00:21:28.080 My takeaway on that is that is even more terrifying.
00:21:30.900 But it just goes to show the point, Steve, here that the point here just gets good.
00:21:36.120 Look, you were talking about how that how they're cooperating together in Wiesbaden in Germany.
00:21:40.140 They're seeing one of the U.S. and the Ukrainians are sitting there every day.
00:21:44.140 They're in the same mess or they're dining.
00:21:46.120 They're gossiping.
00:21:47.020 They're talking this.
00:21:47.840 They're planning, they're doing the strategy and the Ukrainians didn't even have the courtesy to give the Americans and you guys are financing, financing all of this.
00:21:57.880 They didn't even have the courtesy to give you guys a head up.
00:22:01.040 Steve, this just illustrates the point that is so essential here that we said again and again, you just hinted at it, that POTUS is being dragged in here.
00:22:09.940 He is not in control of this agenda and his intentions, pacific as they are, are not going to succeed.
00:22:18.880 All it will succeed in is getting the U.S. drawn in to a formal kinetic element of this third world war.
00:22:26.060 And Steve, let me close on this point.
00:22:28.320 Let me close on this point.
00:22:29.880 Right.
00:22:30.500 Yeah.
00:22:30.980 President Trump, even if he were to negotiate peace between these two sides, there's no thank you in it for him.
00:22:37.480 He won this election campaign on getting the United States out within the first 24 hours.
00:22:43.300 You guys are still in.
00:22:44.980 And if you are dragged further in, right, if you guys are dragged further in, I'm going to say you're going to have a storm in the midterms next year.
00:22:54.740 That is where your attention, that is where America's attention needs to be on the midterms of next year.
00:23:00.320 Because otherwise, you're going to get massacred.
00:23:02.740 I disagree with you on that.
00:23:04.200 I disagree with you.
00:23:05.140 I think you've got to take care of the here and now.
00:23:06.840 And then later on, we'll take care of it.
00:23:08.680 But right now, if you're in Tel Aviv, if you're a BB in that crowd there, and you don't see, and the word is out that we didn't know anything about it,
00:23:19.100 and it's not condemned, and all support is pulled immediately until Lindsey Graham, get on a plane and keep your mouth shut,
00:23:28.280 on foreign shore, you're going to get over here, you're not going to stir the pot anymore.
00:23:31.320 If I'm BB, I'm going out and saying, hey, let's rev the planes up.
00:23:34.040 Let's roll, baby.
00:23:35.700 What's good for Zelensky is good for what's good for Kiev is good for Tel Aviv.
00:23:40.240 Let's roll.
00:23:40.820 Let's hit it.
00:23:41.380 We don't need to give the Americans a heads up.
00:23:43.000 We don't need to give them a fare thee well.
00:23:46.100 Rudy Giuliani.
00:23:47.160 Ben, stick around.
00:23:48.140 Rudy, you know Ukraine better than anybody.
00:23:53.360 They mocked and ridiculed you and dragged you through courts and all this, tried to put you in bankruptcy because you're ex-mose of Ukraine.
00:24:00.160 How big a deal is this?
00:24:01.780 And when President Trump's trying to get peace, you have a deep state faction, but more importantly, you have the Ukrainians.
00:24:07.900 They're saying, screw you.
00:24:09.100 Here's what we think of your peace proposal.
00:24:10.800 We're going to give the Russians a taste of Pearl Harbor, sir.
00:24:13.860 Well, you know, this was an audacious attack.
00:24:19.000 I imagine this has to be the biggest one they've accomplished, certainly the deepest into Russia, because up until now, I mean, up until the end of Biden, he wouldn't let them go any more than about 10 miles into Russia.
00:24:34.260 And, of course, the statement is we didn't know about it.
00:24:39.540 Rudy, Rudy, this is the biggest hit into Russia since the Wehrmacht was rolling in 41 and 42, 43.
00:24:46.680 That's really true.
00:24:47.560 The United States, we never hit these guys.
00:24:49.460 The Chinese and these guys all fought out in Siberia.
00:24:52.480 They held past the Ural Mountains.
00:24:54.120 This was 3,000 miles in to the strategic bombers.
00:24:58.700 Curtis LeMay, in his wildest fantasies, never thought of doing anything like this, sir.
00:25:04.480 The point that it wasn't known by the administration, I don't believe is correct.
00:25:09.840 I believe we have plausible deniability because we haven't heard.
00:25:14.480 If this were done behind the back of the administration, you would hear a lot of noise out of the White House today.
00:25:22.620 You're hearing no noise.
00:25:24.020 You're just hearing, oh, we didn't know about it.
00:25:26.500 We didn't know about it.
00:25:27.640 It's like, how often have we denied that Israel has nuclear weapons?
00:25:33.260 I mean, for a long time, we were denying that.
00:25:35.960 The reality is, this happened with some kind of undercover approval.
00:25:45.520 It was too big an attack.
00:25:47.640 And as you say, it's the biggest attack into Russia since the war.
00:25:52.620 Russia's attack into Ukraine is the biggest attack since the war.
00:25:55.960 Hang on, hang on.
00:25:56.740 Yo, Rudy, hang on.
00:25:58.560 If we gave tacit approval, I guess we're not that serious about a Russian rapprochement.
00:26:04.940 This is not sending a drone in to hit some Wagner group, guys.
00:26:08.800 This is not sending a drone in even to hit around Kursk.
00:26:11.680 This is not sending a couple of drones in because the Russians are hitting them.
00:26:15.240 They had the biggest assault, I think, on the Saturday night or Friday night.
00:26:20.660 The Russians are hitting them with drone attacks.
00:26:23.000 But for us to have a rapprochement, if we had tacit approval, does that help our position?
00:26:30.400 Do the Russians sit there and go, OK, we should work something out with the Americans away from the Chinese?
00:26:36.380 Or does it show, hey, the Americans now more than ever are using their proxy in Ukraine to attack our strategic bombing forces,
00:26:43.780 something Curtis LeMay never did, brother?
00:26:48.040 Well, you know, President Trump gave him plenty of time to show that he was going to be reasonable.
00:26:52.940 I think the president laid a tremendous groundwork for this.
00:26:57.960 You're not going to see too many people complaining about this, if any.
00:27:02.160 Look at all the time he gave him, all the opportunities.
00:27:07.300 Putin put out demands that were ridiculous.
00:27:10.700 He wanted more in the peace negotiation that he actually gained in war.
00:27:14.660 He wanted all the territory that he has, plus the territory he hasn't gotten, more of it, to fill out those provinces.
00:27:22.440 Because in each one of the provinces, well, three of the four, he only has about two-thirds of them.
00:27:27.180 The other one-third Ukraine holds on to.
00:27:30.260 And the president was going into this thinking we were going to negotiate for some territory back from them.
00:27:36.000 And I imagine he's thinking about the territory where the Russians have some of the precious minerals that we want.
00:27:45.060 About two-thirds of the minerals are in Ukraine land.
00:27:48.560 About one-third are in the land controlled by Russia.
00:27:52.180 You know the president wants to get his hands on some of that.
00:27:55.960 Rudy, can you hang on for a second?
00:27:57.600 I'm going to hold you through the break.
00:27:58.540 Boone Cutler, Ben Harnwell.
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00:28:02.620 We're going to talk about the great Bernie Carrick here in a moment.
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00:31:13.040 So, Rudy, talk to me if you can.
00:31:17.960 I don't even know if you're allowed to, given your tangles with these guys.
00:31:22.160 How important is this trial out in Colorado?
00:31:24.380 Mike Lindell decided not to settle.
00:31:26.800 He's kind of bet the company in doing this.
00:31:28.540 What are your thoughts?
00:31:30.540 Well, he's got a very, very good defense.
00:31:32.800 It's always a question in cases involving him or me or, frankly, you, if you're going to get a fair trial.
00:31:39.920 Now, the statements were statements of opinion, not direct facts, which takes it out of the realm of defamation right away.
00:31:51.860 Somehow that doesn't get applied if a case involves someone that's close to Trump.
00:31:58.400 Should have been dismissed originally.
00:32:01.040 So now we have to see how a jury is going to treat him, right?
00:32:03.900 I mean, unfortunately, I've learned to analyze cases differently than I did, you know, when I was, well, even five years ago.
00:32:12.700 You can't just look at the merits of the case.
00:32:15.320 You have to look at the judge has been extremely unfair in this case.
00:32:18.620 And we're in a Democratic stronghold, but not like D.C. or New York.
00:32:24.200 So I think Mike's got a good chance here.
00:32:28.220 Unbelievable.
00:32:29.680 Rudy, hang on for a second.
00:32:31.060 We've got more to talk to you about geopolitics.
00:32:34.220 And, of course, I want to talk about the great Bernie Carrick, who left us last week, late last week.
00:32:41.200 Boone Kotler.
00:32:42.140 Boone, I just want to reiterate something you said that the war room, engine room, and I know the posses all worked up about and want to hear more from you.
00:32:50.020 This whole situation about the CCP, that if Ukraine can do that 3,000 miles into Russia, the CCP can do the exact same thing here in the United States of America.
00:33:00.880 Why do you say that?
00:33:01.820 You talked about cargo ships.
00:33:03.700 You talked about farmland.
00:33:05.320 Just put a little meat on that bone for a second, sir.
00:33:08.240 Well, you put a little meat on that bone.
00:33:09.860 You see there's a lot of containers that are coming from those cargo ships all around the United States.
00:33:16.240 You're looking at area that is occupied by the CCP in the United States around military installations.
00:33:21.980 I don't think that's an accident.
00:33:23.200 I think that's on purpose.
00:33:24.180 And if I was going to, you know, neutralize the nuclear threat in the United States, I would do it in that sort of way, which would give them a clear go at Taiwan, because now what are we going to do?
00:33:37.580 So I think these things are very, very viable.
00:33:40.300 I know unrestricted warfare is being utilized by the CCP.
00:33:44.380 This would be in that playbook.
00:33:46.680 The other thing in that playbook, the easy stuff.
00:33:48.540 I mean, look what they've got going on in our country in agriculture.
00:33:51.360 Look what they've got going in our country.
00:33:52.760 I mean, my goodness, we buy our medication from the CCP.
00:33:55.860 We need to decouple from the CCP, and we need to get them out of our country immediately because we are making ourselves targets, and we're doing it willingly.
00:34:05.220 That needs to stop.
00:34:07.440 For money.
00:34:08.700 Boone, where do people go to get the book you and General Flynn wrote, your social media, podcast, all of it?
00:34:13.420 Where do folks go?
00:34:14.700 You can find the Citizen's Guide to Fit Generation Warfare series anywhere books are sold online or at generalflynn.com.
00:34:20.580 You can find me at x at Boone Cutler.
00:34:22.760 And I'm happy to talk to anybody.
00:34:24.380 Thanks for having me on today.
00:34:25.500 That's the wrong page right there, by the way.
00:34:27.920 That's got the underscore.
00:34:29.940 You'll see me standing.
00:34:32.460 My feet are on a – you'll see my Crocs if you find the right one.
00:34:36.820 Okay.
00:34:38.180 Crocs.
00:34:38.620 We're looking forward to that.
00:34:39.840 Look for my Crocs.
00:34:40.720 Thank you, brother.
00:34:40.740 Appreciate you.
00:34:41.980 Thanks, Leslie.
00:34:42.420 We'll look for the Crocs.
00:34:43.200 We won't miss those.
00:34:44.580 Thank you, brother.
00:34:45.300 Ben Harnwell, any thoughts, observations before we let you punch out, sir, on this ongoing now?
00:34:54.540 They're going – Ukrainians are going up the escalatory ladder.
00:34:58.600 It's the exact moment when President Trump wants to come down the escalatory ladder and cut a deal.
00:35:04.400 It's either with the help of the deep state and or they're hiding that information from the president.
00:35:10.080 Although Rudy says that very smartly they're not making a big deal about it because they want plausible deniability.
00:35:16.960 Ben Harnwell, your thoughts on this metastasizing situation between Ukraine and Russia, sir?
00:35:22.860 Well, Steve, you said earlier that the White House should come out and make a statement on this, and I think it should.
00:35:30.240 It should make a very clear statement on this.
00:35:31.560 I also think, referring to this story from last week about the new German Chancellor, Friedrich Metz, saying that America had lifted its range-limiting inhibitions on those long-range ATAKAMS missiles that the U.S. had provided to Ukraine,
00:35:52.700 I think a statement on that should still – I don't understand how we haven't had a clarifying statement on that.
00:36:00.720 And if you and Jack Posobiec and Rudy Giuliani are correct, and the U.S. intelligence services were informed,
00:36:10.720 I think people need to, if I may say this with all due love and respect towards the president,
00:36:16.660 they need to be giving him – this MAGA movement needs to be making it absolutely clear to the president that what their interests are are U.S. disengagement from this theatre
00:36:30.740 because they don't want to see America being dragged in, and that is exactly what's happening.
00:36:34.960 There's no way you can look at this event over the weekend, which, as I say, the media are already starting to call the Russian Pearl Harbor,
00:36:42.460 and not fear for the safety and security of the United States moving forward.
00:36:47.520 There's no possible interpretation of these events that will –
00:36:52.560 By the way, to back you up, the perfect thing was Lindsey Graham was all over Ukrainian media and global media all over the weekend,
00:37:00.620 basically challenging President Trump.
00:37:02.140 He's saying, hey, the House and the Senate are going to have their own thing.
00:37:04.140 We're going to have a package.
00:37:05.520 Lindsey Graham is 100 percent against President Trump's foreign policy.
00:37:11.280 Lindsey Graham is the biggest neoliberal neocon in the Senate.
00:37:15.700 He's worse than McConnell.
00:37:17.940 He's the one stirring up the pot in Israel.
00:37:20.140 He's the one stirring up the pot in Kiev.
00:37:22.500 He wants bombers.
00:37:23.900 He wants bombers heading in right now, and he just shows you right there.
00:37:28.060 That's 180 percent out from the president.
00:37:30.060 Ben, thanks for joining us.
00:37:32.960 Social media, where do people go to get all your blinding insights?
00:37:36.780 On getter, Steve.
00:37:37.780 Just simply tap in my surname at Harnwell.
00:37:39.680 Let me close with this point about Senator Graham, please.
00:37:43.700 I differ from you on just one point.
00:37:46.840 On one point, I wouldn't summon him back to the United States.
00:37:49.980 I would pick the phone to Kristi Noem and say cancel his passport.
00:37:54.960 Don't let him back into the United States.
00:37:57.680 If he loves it so much over there, let him stay there.
00:38:00.660 I agree with you, sir.
00:38:05.000 Better.
00:38:05.440 Always better.
00:38:06.220 You always make things better, Ben.
00:38:07.820 One more time.
00:38:08.820 Social media.
00:38:10.860 On getter at Harnwell.
00:38:13.260 Thanks, Steve.
00:38:13.840 God bless.
00:38:14.260 Catch up with you later.
00:38:16.420 Thank you so much.
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00:39:08.000 Rudy, I want to get to Bernie quickly, but just give me your advice this morning
00:39:11.880 in the Oval Office to President Trump would be what, sir?
00:39:17.120 Pardon me, Stu?
00:39:18.700 What advice would you give President Trump in the Oval Office if you were talking this
00:39:24.540 morning about this situation with Russia?
00:39:27.340 Well, I would say, if I'm right, it's been played just absolutely right.
00:39:33.760 We have not, we're not doing a lot of complaining this morning.
00:39:38.040 You also note that this was a one-year operation.
00:39:42.180 Can't be that we missed a one-year operation planning something as sophisticated as this.
00:39:47.740 So I think this is a, this is a way of hitting Putin really hard.
00:39:54.300 We, we, he, he knows, of course, that Zelensky is not going to do this without Trump's approval.
00:39:59.520 And it still maintains the ability for Putin and Trump to communicate with each other.
00:40:05.360 But if this doesn't work, I think Putin is going to look at a lot worse than this.
00:40:10.540 And also they're calling it the Russian Pearl Harbor.
00:40:15.200 Well, that's hardly the Russian Pearl Harbor.
00:40:17.320 We weren't attacking Japan for two and a half years before they hit us.
00:40:21.140 We didn't attack Japan at all.
00:40:23.760 I mean, they've been hitting, they've been hitting Ukrainian cities and killing Ukrainian babies.
00:40:27.320 Well, hold it, but it is, it is the Russian Pearl Harbor.
00:40:30.880 Because what happened at Pearl Harbor?
00:40:33.140 What did Yamato say on the, on the deck and the bridge of the carrier?
00:40:36.060 Well, I mean, okay, you can say it's, it's Pearl Harbor.
00:40:36.660 He said, hang on, hang on.
00:40:37.760 He said, we've, we've, we've awakened a sleeping giant.
00:40:42.020 What happened at that?
00:40:43.100 It ended with the firebombing of Tokyo, ended with the firebombing of, uh, of, uh, of every major city.
00:40:49.940 He burned them to the ground and then drop a couple of nukes on them so that we didn't have to invade and broke them.
00:40:55.360 Yeah.
00:40:55.600 So let's say it is the Pearl Harbor.
00:40:57.340 How did that, how did that, how did that end for the attacking forces?
00:41:01.140 Not well.
00:41:02.720 Okay.
00:41:03.140 Not well.
00:41:04.720 Rudy, talk to me, talk to me about Bernie Carrick.
00:41:08.200 Nobody, he was America's cop.
00:41:10.480 You were America's mayor.
00:41:11.680 We just lost one of the great ones, one of the great, uh, MAGA patriots.
00:41:15.360 Tell me about, uh, Bernie.
00:41:16.400 Uh, this was a really exceptional American, an exceptional patriot, a guy that was there just at the right time.
00:41:23.100 I probably know that better than anyone because he was instrumental in saving my life and 40 other people that were trapped in a building for 30 minutes right after the, um, right after the first building came down.
00:41:37.920 I, I was in the, in a building.
00:41:39.800 He had set up the, uh, the communication so we could get to the White House.
00:41:44.060 I had actually gotten through, gotten a little information from, um, from one of the staff members.
00:41:50.400 And I was waiting for a call back from, from Vice President Cheney when all of a sudden our building got rocked like it was an earthquake.
00:41:58.760 Everybody went under the table.
00:42:00.760 We were stuck in the building for 30 minutes, had to really do a lot of, uh, uh, moving around through rubble and to find a way out into another building.
00:42:12.500 And Bernie's, uh, Bernie's, uh, Bernie's inability to be frightened about anything sure helped to keep everyone under control because we had some pretty, you know, nervous people.
00:42:24.740 And, and, and then, uh, we went right out into, uh, into a situation where people were getting hit in the head, uh, and he was leading the pack.
00:42:36.600 Now, uh, I have to say, uh, all throughout, he was at my side, cool head, understood what to do, natural instinct for law enforcement.
00:42:48.060 And before that, he reduced violence in Rikers Island by 90 percent, documented by 60 minutes if anybody wants to ever question it.
00:42:57.940 And he reduced violence in New York City by as much or more than my two previous police commissioners who were considered to have done things that were impossible.
00:43:08.860 We eventually reduced crime altogether more than any city in the history of America.
00:43:14.660 So this was, uh, and then he went and volunteered in Iraq, uh, in order to try to put the, uh, the police together there.
00:43:22.460 And I talked to him on the phone and I would hear gunshots in the background.
00:43:31.000 Rudy, hang on for one second.
00:43:32.380 Just hang on for one second.
00:43:33.120 We're hold to a break.
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00:45:50.080 They've got the local people.
00:45:52.240 We've just had the situation in Texas trying to get the sheriffs involved.
00:45:55.120 How do you think Homeland Security is doing on the deportations?
00:45:59.520 I think they're doing miracles.
00:46:03.980 Even with all the judicial interference, which is almost historic in nature.
00:46:10.620 I mean, it's 80 or 90 judges have gotten involved, acting like they're judges for the entire United States as opposed to just their district.
00:46:21.260 But with that, we're deporting a large number of people every day.
00:46:28.320 And most importantly, nobody's coming in.
00:46:31.720 And that's not just our security at the border.
00:46:35.500 That's the deterrent effect that we've sent all over the world.
00:46:38.660 Well, it's not a happy thing coming into the United States now.
00:46:43.160 Before, you were being escorted by our people.
00:46:48.960 Unfortunately, our border patrol became an escort service for drug dealers, rapists, murderers.
00:46:55.240 Now, we keep them out.
00:46:56.920 And when we get them, they may go to El Salvador.
00:47:00.820 So, Rudy, never discount deterrent effect where the criminal war is involved.
00:47:10.620 It's really at the basis of why we have so much crime in all these democratic cities.
00:47:14.640 Nobody's afraid.
00:47:15.260 It's been a tremendous deterrent.
00:47:20.880 This is why the border's closed.
00:47:22.320 Before you bounce, you and Bernie, during the attack on New York City, really were, gave the country a level of comfort that people were actually in charge of you to get things done and sort this mess out.
00:47:36.900 But over the last 10 years or so, as you particularly become involved with President Trump, and Bernie did too, became one of the stalwarts of the MAGA movement, walk me through how Bernie had your back in this entire time.
00:47:48.660 Because, you know, Bernie and Eric Prince were the two guys that escorted me up to the prison, actually to the entry hall of the prison in Danbury.
00:47:58.800 And the prison people were, like, sitting there and got America's biggest mercenary in Eric Prince and America's biggest hammer in Bernie Carrick.
00:48:05.840 How did Bernie have your back over the last couple of turbulent years for Rudy Giuliani?
00:48:12.620 Well, it meant the world to me.
00:48:14.800 I mean, he's, I mean, even on September 11, I described, described it as I was standing on the shoulder of, shoulders of giants.
00:48:23.300 And I meant him, my fire commissioner, and my, and my head of emergency services.
00:48:28.760 These guys were, I mean, it's like what you want in a war.
00:48:33.480 They weren't afraid of anything.
00:48:35.620 And here I've been going through, you know what, what you've been going through.
00:48:39.700 And Bernie's been right there every minute trying to figure everything out.
00:48:43.160 When I, when I had to go, when I had to go report in Fulton County into the worst jail in the country, Bernie figured it all out, told me how to handle it, what to do, what was going to happen.
00:48:57.040 I mean, they, they put us through like a, a little bit of a torture chamber getting, getting to get our prints done and our pictures taken.
00:49:06.580 And we went past about five lines of, of inmates.
00:49:11.020 And the funniest thing is, they applauded for us.
00:49:14.400 But they, they weren't expecting that.
00:49:16.660 They were hoping that we would get things thrown at us.
00:49:19.460 And Bernie had us ready for the whole thing.
00:49:21.920 And in case bail was denied, what we would have to do.
00:49:25.900 And having him there, you know what it's like, having, you know Bernie.
00:49:28.720 Having him there just makes you more confident, makes you braver.
00:49:32.040 This week, the funeral is going to be, it's going to be, I think, I don't know if it's been announced yet, but official commissioners type.
00:49:45.820 And I take it you're going to, you're going to give one of the eulogies since, since at the most important inflection point, you, he was there with you as your wingman.
00:49:55.060 And, um, it'll be at St. Patrick's 10 o'clock on Friday.
00:50:01.640 And that is a, going to be a traditional, um, what we call a commissioner's funeral, which the highest level funeral New York City can, can give.
00:50:12.000 It'll be the same a mayor would have.
00:50:14.160 Uh, and, uh, Mayor Adams has been, uh, more than generous and kind in, uh, the way in which he's taking care of the family.
00:50:24.360 They are in shock.
00:50:26.480 And when the police commissioner personally gets involved to help them, it means life.
00:50:31.040 You should know that Bernie and Mayor Adams were friends, uh, way back when they were cops together.
00:50:37.520 And, uh, and it remained through all of the different political machinations.
00:50:43.080 And when I became, uh, uh, one of the reasons I picked him was because we had gone through two or three demonstrations about police shootings.
00:50:53.420 And Bernie was able to really solve a lot of the problems in terms of the disconnect between the black community and, uh, and the police department.
00:51:03.180 And in the last couple of years of my administration, although we had had some bad times at the beginning, we had some very good relations.
00:51:11.700 And a lot of that had to do with his close personal relationship with Adams who endorsed me for mayor way back then.
00:51:22.080 Well, this is the middle of a tough fight.
00:51:23.700 We're also going to cover this, the funeral, uh, wall to wall coverage.
00:51:27.120 It's only the boardroom can, uh, Rudy, uh, podcast, uh, your show on Lindale TV, all your social media.
00:51:32.880 Where do people go America's mayor?
00:51:36.360 Well, we're, we're on at seven, uh, uh, tonight on Lindale TV, and we'll be covering some of Mike's trial.
00:51:43.840 And then I'm on at eight on X, uh, which is America's mayor live.
00:51:48.360 That's been on now for three or four years.
00:51:50.660 And it's really done very, very well.
00:51:54.020 And thanks to, thanks to our people who are so loyal.
00:51:58.660 No, you've got a great audience.
00:51:59.980 Uh, social media, where do people go on X or Getter to get you, sir?
00:52:05.000 Yep.
00:52:05.220 It's on every, it's on Rumble.
00:52:06.660 It's on Getter.
00:52:08.060 It's on Lindale.
00:52:11.220 It's on YouTube.
00:52:12.200 I don't know how, but it's on YouTube.
00:52:14.200 Um, for, you know.
00:52:18.680 Thank you, brother.
00:52:19.700 Appreciate you.
00:52:21.620 Rudy Giuliani, the mayor, knows more about Ukrainian geopolitics than anybody alive.
00:52:25.980 I'm not sure.
00:52:26.720 I think General Flynn and I may disagree slightly with Rudy's take on the White House, but we'll get Rudy on back during the week.
00:52:31.980 A lot more unfolding here.
00:52:34.220 President Trump, the kinetic part of the Third World War, only got more dangerous over the weekend.
00:52:39.180 As America, every second, is inexorably sucked in to a broader conflict on the Eurasian landmass.
00:52:48.280 And tonight, we'll be live in Korea to talk about the political warfare that will turn one of our greatest allies over to the Chinese Communist Party in political warfare.
00:52:58.240 Charlie Kirk is next.
00:52:59.420 Poso after that.
00:53:00.240 We're back here, 5 p.m. tonight, live on Real America's Voice, The War Room.
00:53:04.760 See you then.
00:53:05.200 We'll be right back.
00:53:35.200 We'll be right back.
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