Episode 4539： Seize Space X, Investigate, And Deport
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Summary
Trump and Musk clash inside the Oval Office and online, and on social media. What does this mean for the future of the alliance between the world s richest man and the most powerful man in the world? And why does it matter?
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I've always liked Elon and it's always very surprised. You saw the words he had for me,
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the words. And he hasn't said anything about me that's bad. I'd rather have him criticize me than
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the bill because the bill is incredible. Elon's upset because we took the EV mandate and, you
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know, which was a lot of money for electric vehicles. And, you know, they're having a hard
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time, the electric vehicles. And they want us to pay billions of dollars in subsidy. He recommended
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somebody from, uh, that he, I guess, knew very well. I'm sure he respected him, but to run NASA
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and I didn't think it was appropriate. I can understand why he's upset. Remember,
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he was here for a long time. You saw a man who was very happy when he stood behind the oval desk.
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And, uh, even with the black eye, I said, do you want a little makeup? We'll get you a little makeup.
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But he said, no, I don't think so, which is interesting. I think he misses the place.
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I think he got out there and all of a sudden he wasn't in this beautiful oval office and he was,
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and he's got nice offices too, but there's something about this one.
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Up and pop some popcorn. It's four o'clock in New York. The alliance between the world's richest man
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and the world's most powerful Donald Trump is imploding right now in real time before our very
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eyes with Trump and Musk tearing into each other inside the oval office and online.
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It appears that Elon Musk, after donating $277 million of his own money to the Trump campaign,
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after serving as Donald Trump's political heat shield for the first five months of his second
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presidency, did so while doing permanent damage to his business empire, to the federal government,
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and his personal reputation and legacy. But after all that, even Elon Musk is not immune
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from the golden rule that for Trump, loyalty is a one-way street. But Musk is not going quietly
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into the night. After days of Musk trashing Donald Trump's signature domestic policy,
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his big ugly bill, as Elon Musk called it, Trump finally broke his silence. Watch.
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Elon knew the inner workings of this bill better than almost anybody sitting here,
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and he only developed the problem when he found out that we're going to have to cut the EV mint.
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He knew every aspect of this bill. He knew it better than almost anybody. And he never had a
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problem until right after he left. He said the most beautiful things about me. And he hasn't said bad
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about me personally, but I'm sure that'll be next. Slim, beautiful bill for the win. Slim is the
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emphasis there. Keep the good, remove the bad. Wise words, and I couldn't agree more. Over 2012 and 2013
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tweets from Donald Trump ranting about the debts. And whatever, keep the EV solar incentive cuts in
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the bill, even though no oil and gas subsidies are touched. Very unfair, but ditch the mountain
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of disgusting pork in the bill. Also false. This bill was never shown to me even once and was passed
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in the dead of night so fast that almost no one in Congress could even read it. And then here's the
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important one. Without me, Trump would have lost the election. Dems would control the House
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and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate. Such ingratitude. That's what he followed that up
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with. That feels a bit different about this. Yeah, you're right. It is personal. I think it reflects
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not just what's happened in the last few hours, but what's happened over the last four months. So
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there's a certain shelf life with Trump, with anybody around him who sits in the shadow of the
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spotlight he wants to occupy, right? And so I think this reflects a certain frustration that
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had been growing with Elon Musk over these last four months. They would have figured some way for
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him to stick around if everything was going really well. They didn't. He left. And so I think,
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yeah, it reflects something larger than just today. Let's stop here for a second. Why does any of this
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matter, right? Two tarantulas in a bowl. Why does it matter? Well, here's why. When the most powerful
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person in our government fights with the richest person in the world, we, as a public, get to peer
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deep inside the most corrupt and superficial alliance in American political history.
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And as they claw and strike rhetorically at one another, they affirm our deepest concerns and
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suspicions. Trump confirms that Musk was always only in it to enrich his companies. And Musk confirms
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that Trump was always for sale. Yeah, it's absolutely delicious to watch and for it not so impactful for
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the future of the country. You could laugh at it. Bannon is a guy who has defined himself as a thug,
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and thugs must do thuggish things. I think that Elon Musk has no idea what he's getting into when he
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gets in a fight with Steve Bannon over this. And, you know, under all of this sort of, I suspect Bannon
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thinks about this. There's a very good chance, there's been a lot of reporting, that Elon Musk
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was not a student when he got a visa. And when he got his, went through his process of becoming a
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naturalized citizen, that he put false information on that document. If that's true, that is grounds for
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revoking the citizenship. It happens all the time. And under the Trump, that would mean deporting Musk
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and his children. You know, you could make a case that one of the reasons Musk is so obsessed with
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immigration. It's because he knows this. So I think that in the heart and soul of MAGA out there,
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I'm with you. I would not bet against Steve Bannon. I want to deal with the substance of this,
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and I promise to do that. But because for Trump, it's never about the substance, I want to stay
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with the leading men in Trump's life with you, Stuart Stevens. The idea that Elon Musk is the alpha
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only exists in a world where Trump can be bought. And what's so amazing to me is that Trumpism
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has always been transactional for Trump, but we've never seen the public display of someone else getting
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to grift off Trump's presidency. Elon Musk feels like the beta for that, right? A real test case.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot, all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly
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full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop
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that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to
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share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,
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It's Thursday, 5 June, year of our Lord, 2025. I had to step out this morning to go to a meeting
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that was quite important. I'll give you details on that later. But Dave Brett took us home this
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morning. And wow, I guess that the meeting with the Chancellor of Germany did not totally focus on
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the kinetic part of the Third World War. President Trump started talking about his thoughts about
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the bill and about comments and observations by Elon Musk and then talked about Elon Musk and his time
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there. And of course, Elon Musk was live tweeting at the entire time. Jack Posobiec joins us. Folks,
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to say it's devolved from there would be a vast understatement. This is unprecedented.
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It is unprecedented and unnecessary from Elon Musk. Some of the things he's putting up are just outside
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the bounds of any, forget civility, but any type of behavior of which I don't want to remind people.
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I told folks about that last cut right there. Stuart Stevens and Nicole Wallace always said,
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you don't want to get into a fight with Steve Bannon and, you know, Bannon's going to win this thing
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or Bannon's going to win this thing, was from 31 December of 2024. Jack Posobiec, get us up to date.
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Some of these tweets are calling for President Trump to be impeached, bringing up the, I guess,
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the Epstein situation. Many others, even worse, saying President Trump's only got three and a half
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years left. He's got 40 years. Walk me through. You know Twitter better than anyone. Walk us through
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what Elon Musk is saying about the president of the United States, President Trump, right now.
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Well, Steve, what can I say? It's a hot day on X, but I'm staying frosty. I am maintaining maximum
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frigidity. I am sub-zero. But look, you're seeing a lot of throwdowns here. Look, this isn't the
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female-coded MSNBC talk. No, this is a throwdown. This is how men communicate. This is how men talk.
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And you've got a situation here where, yes, Elon has been retweeting things, calling for President
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Trump's impeachment and J.D. Vance to be installed as president. He said that he's going to be
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decommissioning the Dragon program, so taking out SpaceX, President Trump posting that he's going
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to cut all of Elon's contracts for SpaceX, that if he's worried about subsidies and all the rest and
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spending, that he's going to cut Elon's contracts. It will be the first thing to go and says that he
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doesn't understand why Biden never did. I'm not really sure how the libs are taking all of this.
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They're not sure if they need to be torching their Teslas or revving their engines right now,
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reviving with an electric car. But a lot of this seems to be, I think it's beyond the EV
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credit at this point. This is the battle of the billionaires. And at the end of the day,
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you can't have two CEOs of one country or one company. You can't have two CEOs. You can't have two
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presidents. You can't have two bulls in one field. And that's what this is coming down to.
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Only one of these individuals was elected president of the United States. And that name
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is Donald J.D. Trump. Yeah. We got a bull and we got a baby calf. As I've said, this guy, the reason
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this guy is so dangerous is that he doesn't know anything. He's a know-it-all. He knows some
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engineering. Don't get me wrong. I give a hat tip for that. But he doesn't know anything about the real
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world. Doge was, and for any fanboys that still exist, while you're wrapping up in your cape
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tonight, understand on Doge, there was, he didn't find any fraud. There's plenty of fraud out there.
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He didn't find, this was President Trump's first complaint. Was this all BS, right? With the,
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with the, with the Doge. The act should, that President Trump should be taking immediately,
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I think. When he threatens to take one of the big programs out of SpaceX, President Trump tonight
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should sign an executive order, uh, uh, calling for the Defense to Production Act to be caught in
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SpaceX and seize SpaceX tonight before midnight. The U.S. government should seize it. If a guy's
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going to sit there and start making quotes, also, as we, Stuart Stevens talked back in, in January,
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I don't know why we haven't had a full investigation. Look, if you're going to deport illegal aliens,
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you got to deport illegal, illegal, illegal aliens. The good go with the, uh, the good, you know,
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the, the goose and the gander. They got to go back to this as Stuart Stevens talked about and go
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through everything about his immigration status. I happen to believe, given the facts that I've been
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shown, that he's an illegal alien. An illegal alien's got to be deported. Also, this drug use is reported
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in the New York Times, the drug use in the New York Times. If that's a fact, that ought to be
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investigated. You can't have a security clearance, Jack Posobiec, as you know. Jack, if somebody in your
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unit had that type of drug, uh, had that type of drugs and they had a security clearance,
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what would happen to them, sir? Uh, well, Steve, we remember that Hunter Biden,
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pop positive, I believe for cocaine on his very first weekend in the Navy Reserve. And, uh, even at
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that time, I don't remember if his father, I think his father was still the vice president at the time.
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He wasn't president yet, uh, or auto pen president yet. And Hunter Biden was summarily separated from
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the United, from the United States Navy over his very first weekend, uh, uh, drilling as a Navy
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reservist over popping positive. Um, also, uh, he should take his security clearance away and all
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contracts should be suspended pending, uh, pending that investigation. Also, as I said, on, um, on the
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Tim Pool show in Matt Gaetz's office, I think over a year ago, right? That was over a year ago where I
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said, Hey, he's an agent of influence of the Chinese Communist Party because of his financial
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relationship in Tesla. That should be fully investigated. President Trump is a bull. Elon
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Musk is a baby calf. Okay. And now it's time for the good of the country, the Republic, forget MAGA
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and the Republican party. This is a national security issue. Now trace the level national security issue
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of a very unstable individual that's out saying, uh, very, um, I think dangerous things about the
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president of the United States. And he has to be investigated, should be investigated immediately
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and all contracts, all contracts associated, all government contracts should be immediately
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suspended given an investigation. Jack Posobiec is going to stick with us. Jack's all over the
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Twitter. This, uh, this fight really metastasized when president Trump was just walking through Dave
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Brat about the big, beautiful bill that Elon has been attacking. Johnson just tweets out. Oh, I
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can't, I can't. Johnson keeps saying I'm calling him, but I can't get on the phone. No, please,
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Johnson, don't make yourself bigger poly pockets than you already are. Don't tell the world he won't
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take your call. You're speaker of the fricking house, dude. Start acting like it. God, if the guy
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won't take your call, don't tell the world about it and don't send him any more information. He's got
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all the information. Tell him to pick up Politico. Tell him to go to the Hill. They got plenty of good
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information there. Go to Gateway Pundit, right? Go to Breitbart. Matt, Matt Bolan's team is breaking
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it down. Tell him, give him Dave Brat's cell number. Have him text Dave Brat, right? Go to, no, go to
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get her and get Dave Brat's charts. Okay. That's what he needs to do. You don't need to send him
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inside information. Do you think that's going to change his mind after what he said about
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President Trump this afternoon? A bull and a baby calf. Jack Bosovic, Dave Brat, and yours truly.
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Brad, you got some very specific thoughts about this, right? Yeah, well, I just don't like this fight
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because what it reveals about the structure of our country right now. You got oligarchs and monopolies,
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right? The Wall Street Journal I wanted to go over this morning. They're all writing about free
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markets. There's no free markets. There's the Magnificent Seven. Seven firms own about 35-40%
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of the S&P 500. Elon's genius. No one's talking about it, but what did President Trump actually do
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here, right? I can't really put my finger on it. There's a budget debate, and then it blows up into
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this, and the problem is he's still the President of the United States, whether you like him or not,
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and Elon says, I want to do what's good for the country. Well, do that. Show respect for the
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presidency. If you got a problem on ideas, debate the ideas, but to devolve it into threats against
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the presidency, the executive, which has probably got too much power in the first place, right?
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We want to bring it back down to the Congress, back down to the people, to the states, and so to
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have someone of this magnitude taking it at the president, and I don't think that route's going
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to be too successful. Dave Brack clearly has not had his number two pencil out of my article
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two chats. This is the power. This is what happens to these oligarchs. They're out of control. They
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have too much money, and they think they live off government contracts. The problem is, the guy,
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don't give me the entrepreneur stuff. Everything he's associated with is a government contract,
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government contract. You pull the government contracts, and we'll see how tough this guy is,
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and that's what should be done right now. He's challenged the President of the United States,
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and it's a national security issue. Here's why. Oh, I don't know. We're kind of in the beginning
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stages of the kinetic part of the Third World War and the Eurasian landmass. I think we ought to be
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sending messages of strength to Putin, to Xi, to the mullahs in Tehran. We should not be allowed
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money to think they can push people around, particularly push the office of the president
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around and the president of the United States around, and I think this is why it needs dramatic
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action. I would pull all the contracts immediately. I would sign an executive order to get the Defense
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Production Act installed about SpaceX. He said he was going to take down their primary product. Fine,
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do what you want to do, but we're seizing it tonight at midnight, and the government's going to step in
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and manage this thing for a while until we can get some stable management that meets the level
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of a government contract. Also, the drug thing's got to be investigated. Illegal aliens got to be
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investigated. Everything associated. By the way, the biggest thing, Jack Posovic is investigating his
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relationship to the Chinese Communist Party, and that includes the real details, not a New York Times
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story. We're going to need a real investigation about who forced the flag officers and the guys of
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the Pentagon to prep a top-secret brief on the China war plan. How did that go down? We ought to have
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an investigation of that and go all the way back to who drafted this letter to invite Xi and invite
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him to sit up on the podium in the stands when they were thinking of doing it outside to the
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inauguration of the United States, the greatest enemy this country's ever had, the greatest
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existential threat it's ever had. Posovic, your thoughts and ideas. Well, actually, Steve,
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there's some information that I've known about the inauguration and that situation. So we remember
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that she didn't go, but Charlie Kirk, who did go there, actually told me something about this,
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and we talked about it on our Thought Crime show, where he said that the Chinese Communist Party
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officials that accompanied the Vice Premier that did come over had electronic devices that they were
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using inside the staging areas, which they staged over at St. John's Church, they were using electronic
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devices. I said, Charlie, they were probably scanning all of your cell phones. So you're in that room and
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you got Bezos there, you got Elon there, you got Zuckerberg there, you got everyone else there, all of the
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incoming national security officials, the incoming cabinet, they were more than likely sucking up all
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the signals that they had from cell phones, from PII, trying to hack cell phones, all the different
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things that they could do with that level of individuals. So now you've got backdoor access
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directly to all of them. So this is a huge, huge security threat. And something that unfortunately,
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I think happened because of the invitation of the CCP officials here, which I do believe was made in
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good faith. But at the same time, you can't deal with those people in good faith. Now, let's look back
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on this. Look, I care about the debt. This is the war room. You talk about the debt all the time
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here. Stephen K. Bannon has taught us about the debt markets and the global finance and how this
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all works and how it all is instrictly linked. But if you want to keep your country, you need
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mass deportations. And mass deportations, by the way, and I'll check with Brad's charts on all of
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this, mass deportations actually help out with the debt issues. Why? Because 43% of immigrants are
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illegal and illegal are on some form of welfare, some form of entitlement. So all of this focus
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on the debt has been on the projections of the supply side. Well, what if you reduce the demand
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side through mass deportations, through dealing with these programs, dealing with the individuals
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who are here? It makes so much sense. I haven't heard any of these guys talk about it. But what the
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real issue is here, Steve, is this. You broke the chain of command. There's one president of the
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United States. There is one commander in chief, someone who's an SGE, an advisor, a friend,
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all of these things. That's great. But there is a chain of command. And in the chain of command
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of the United States government, the president comes first, period, full stop.
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Yeah, Poe, so I quoted you this morning on that, on savings to entitlements, all that.
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Work the other day. Those comments are great. And then also, the weight of the world is on
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the presidency, right? He's responsible. Elon is not responsible morally, politically,
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for the real outcomes of all these interrelations between all these moving pieces. He just gets
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I don't want to get off thesis, but there's a lot of notable names. Jamie Dimon, Morgan
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Stanley coming out. Hey, we have a debt problem. Hey, we ought to be building up the defense,
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right? Like he's running for president now. It's easy to say that after it's already on
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the media. The immigration crime has been around for a decade, and now people are just noticing
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But you're wandering away here. You're wandering around.
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This is not about, people can make comments. You can make comments. This is not what this
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is about. He promised and committed. He was given access. He had admiration. He had resources.
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They did everything to support him. He told the president, I'm going to find $2 trillion
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in cuts for this year in waste, fraud, and abuse. The president said, fine. Then he came
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back to the trade. The president said, fine. The president had his back, defended him, promoted
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the cars when he was getting attacked, had his attorney general defend this guy. At every
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step of the way, President Trump had this guy's back and promoted him, right? And what
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he did, he gave false information. This was not just incompetence. What did Scott Besson
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call him? Scott Besson called him a fraud in the Oval Office outside. That's why Elon attacked
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him, because he called him a fraud. He said, hey, you committed to the president of $3 trillion.
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You got nothing. We've been here for five months, and you've been performance art all over town
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for yourself, your chainsaw and your wraparound sunglass, all for yourself, not for the country,
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not for the president, not for MAGA, not for the American people, for yourself. And then
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he had every act as nice as I didn't see the bill. Nobody read the bill. What are you talking
00:24:10.460
about? Everybody had this bill up there. You could have read it, and you knew the numbers.
00:24:14.520
You didn't need to read 9,000 pages. The math was there. We debated every day on the war.
00:24:18.480
We talked about this ad nauseum. Of course he saw the numbers, and people talked to him about
00:24:23.160
the numbers. He had no problem with the numbers. Johnson, Polly Pocket said he never called
00:24:27.300
me, and they talked every day. He never talked to me about that. The president said he never
00:24:30.500
made one comment. He had no problem about that. Now, when he doesn't get the EVs, and
00:24:35.320
it's not about the EVs. President Trump, the Axios story said it, and President Trump said
00:24:39.840
it today. He said, hey, no offense. I kind of fired him. I let him go. He wanted to extend.
00:24:44.560
I wouldn't extend him. Okay, then it got personal with him, and now he comes out. He's attacking
00:24:49.000
to kill the bill. He's not sitting there going, hey, I think Ron Johnson's got some really
00:24:52.960
good ideas. I think Mike Lee's got some ideas. My point is, Jamie Dyer and everybody, people make
00:24:57.760
comments. We make comments. There's comments all over, observations all over. This is not what this
00:25:02.660
is. He went, and then personally, without informing the president of the United States, who he had
00:25:08.560
told us, hey, I'm not gay, but I love this man. I love this man more than any man can love a man.
00:25:15.620
Remember that? I love this man. I love this man more than anybody can love a man.
00:25:19.680
I know it sounded gay, but he told us up front, I'm not gay. Okay, but I love this man,
00:25:26.220
that guy, the love doctor, right? What does he do? He doesn't inform the president. He comes
00:25:31.540
out of nowhere. He's putting the kill bill thing out there. Kill the bill. Not saying we need some
00:25:37.320
changes here. Ron Johnson's got some good ideas. I think Josh Hawley's got a couple of three,
00:25:41.980
the guys in the Senate. Now I've got Andy Biggs. I've got the Hawks of the Freedom Caucus are saying,
00:25:47.540
hey, I think we got some stuff that we want to change. Of course, the taxes don't expire until
00:25:53.120
December 31st. That's the day we have to do it. We know we have to do it. People have a lot of work
00:25:57.840
and people in this town are working around the clock. Some are working for the lobbyists. Some
00:26:01.660
are working for the populists. Elon Musk is working for himself. President Trump empowered him more than
00:26:08.600
anyone's ever been empowered in this government. Had his back, promoted this guy. And when people like
00:26:14.360
me who said, you're making a mistake, right? This is a bad guy. He's going to turn on you. He's not
00:26:21.020
with us. He's also totally incompetent. And President Trump said, hey, give this guy a shot.
00:26:27.660
And I trust President Trump's judgment enough to say, as people know, I backed off a little,
00:26:32.700
right? Not a lot. I backed off a little, but it's not about observations. As soon as he didn't think
00:26:39.040
he ran the deal or got the adoration, right? That he was starting to be saying, where's the trillion
00:26:44.200
dollars, right? What is this? He turned on President Trump. He turned on MAGA. But most importantly,
00:26:49.580
he turned on the country and the American people. And President Trump just had enough of it.
00:26:53.460
And he forced his way back in to have like some last day. They didn't want to do that, but fine.
00:26:58.340
And then as soon as President Trump comes out today, and President Trump's saying it in the nicest way
00:27:02.400
possible about the bill, right? The bill, the bing, bing, bang, bang. The guy gets up and starts
00:27:07.380
tweeting the most vicious stuff you could tweet. So all the fanboys defend this. He accused President
00:27:13.920
Trump of basically being in a group with those pedophiles on the island. He called for, he called
00:27:19.660
for the president to be impeached and J.D. Vance to take his role. As hard as we've worked in all the
00:27:25.720
years that we've walked in this audience's work, some punk is going to sit there and go, he should,
00:27:30.780
oh, he should be impeached. And hey, as sure as the turning of the earth, if those progressives
00:27:36.800
rub up on him and say, hey, they're never going to buy the, they're never going to buy the Teslas.
00:27:41.400
We're going to buy the Teslas. They rub up on him. He'll write a $500 million check for Hakeem
00:27:46.300
Jeffries. He'll be across the thing, looking to impeach President Trump, looking to help steal the 28
00:27:51.200
election, looking to imprison President Trump. So here's my point. Let's get ahead of it. And let's get
00:27:57.080
ahead of it tonight. There's lots to be done. This guy is all over the map. He's right. But he's
00:28:03.520
emblematic of these oligarchs. All of them have the maturity of a nine-year-old and they're dangerous.
00:28:09.360
They're dangerous, not just to the president of the United States. More importantly, they're
00:28:12.540
dangerous to this republic and the citizens of this constitutional republic. Short break. Brat,
00:28:18.960
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Okay, we've got Jack. Jack, let's hope it's got to bounce. Uh, he got a, Jack got a better gig than
00:30:03.340
doing the five o'clock war room here. Uh, so Jack, give us your closing thoughts on this Twitter fight
00:30:08.480
you've seen today. Steve, I have duties and responsibilities, duties and responsibilities.
00:30:13.820
Look, you know, you got a situation here where in many cases, I think that this was something that
00:30:19.500
was always going to be inevitable. I think that it would have happened at some point, regardless of
00:30:25.780
this bill specifically. I do think there's always been this sort of edging that's going on one way or
00:30:32.280
the other, but at the end of the day, whether, whether it's debt or whether, whatever issue you
00:30:36.800
want to talk about, mass immigration, and I've always said this, look, the reason that this is the
00:30:42.420
MAGA movement and Donald Trump's movement, and we are almost exactly 10 years away from
00:30:47.840
the golden escalator moment. So it's going to be the 10 year anniversary coming up very
00:30:51.460
soon here. The reason that it's that movement and not the Jeb Bush movement and the Jeb Bush
00:30:56.520
presidency, it ain't cause tax cuts, it ain't cause of balance of the budget. No, it is because
00:31:02.160
of borders, it is because of trade and tariffs, and it is because of foreign policy. Those are the
00:31:09.700
three issues that make up the backbone of the MAGA populist movement period, full stop.
00:31:14.700
But hang on. It's also a guy. Listen, this is why I say, and I say this as a student of history,
00:31:22.700
and someone's been very involved in this and has stayed, gone to prison, all of it.
00:31:26.580
It's because of also a man, right? The country, Washington was the indispensable figure of all
00:31:33.560
the great revolution. He was the indispensable figure. Lincoln was the indispensable figure
00:31:38.300
for the rebirth of the nation, right? General Washington at the birth, Lincoln at the rebirth,
00:31:45.580
and the reclaiming of the nation, and the rejuvenation of the nation is Donald Trump.
00:31:50.620
Without Trump coming down that escalator, folks, I had a ringside seat. And I will tell you,
00:31:56.320
it ain't Elon Musk, or they come and go all the time. They're a dime a dozen, okay? And all the fanboys,
00:32:02.180
you're just, you're just, you look at Tony Stark, pick your comic books back up and go back to your
00:32:06.300
basement room and sit in the corner for a while. Donald Trump is a man, and he stood in the breach
00:32:12.620
when everybody else would have wilted. And he made the one of the greatest profiles in courage.
00:32:18.320
And Donald Trump's very imperfect. I ain't saying he's perfect. He's very imperfect. It's his
00:32:23.220
imperfections and rising above them that makes him great. He consciously made a decision
00:32:30.500
in January and February and March of 2021 to come back and say that election was stolen.
00:32:37.720
I know it was stolen. I cannot rest until we make, we make that right. We set things right.
00:32:43.680
There's an illegitimate regime under Biden. And I will go, and he went through hell for years.
00:32:48.280
The first two years besides this show and Jack Posobiec, a real America's voice and a handful of
00:32:53.240
podcasts, the Breitbart guys, it was totally ignored by Fox and the Wall Street Journal and the
00:32:59.320
National Review and all of them. Okay. He made a conscious decision, that conscious decision.
00:33:04.160
I know they're going to try to bankrupt me. I know they're going to try to smear me. I know
00:33:07.660
they're going to try to take down my family and I don't have any power. They got the deep state.
00:33:11.740
They got the big tech bros. They got lords of easy money. They got the media. They got everybody.
00:33:16.100
And I'm making a decision. I'm coming back. You know what I got? I got my followers,
00:33:20.420
my people, the deplorables, right? The hobbits. And the hobbits got around him and lifted him
00:33:26.540
on the shoulder and said, you're our guy. Yes. Because it's about the sovereignty of the nation
00:33:31.120
and sealing the border and shipping 13 million out of here. Let me change that. 13 million in one
00:33:37.180
because Elon Musk is illegal. He got to go too. Okay. You're going to ship these other people home.
00:33:42.480
Let's start with the South Africans. Okay. And I got a couple other could go too, but he's illegal.
00:33:47.600
Deport immediately. This is what he did. No forever wars. We're going to set the finances in the
00:33:53.380
country, right? We're going to stop the invasion of the country. And we're going to ship out all
00:33:58.160
the illegal aliens. And people got around in the longest of long shots. We won. Now we picked up,
00:34:04.700
as you say on wall street, a little deal baggage. Okay. Elon wrote a big check. No doubt about it.
00:34:09.500
In wall street terms, it's deal baggage. You have to just deal with it over time.
00:34:14.700
Posobiec. And this is why Trump is a hero. And Elon Musk is not an Elon Musk and his little,
00:34:20.960
you know, jumping around the stage on ketamine and everything like that with the MAGA cheering
00:34:24.740
him on. And he's doing the thing and going to inauguration and he's a big shot and he's
00:34:28.720
getting all that adulation. He doesn't understand. That's for Trump. That's for Trump because Trump's
00:34:36.420
the man that's gotten the arena and did it and risk everything, including going to prison for 300
00:34:40.940
years. We'll see how good Elon Musk takes a little of that pressure because I happen to think a little
00:34:47.060
that pressure might be coming. Jack Posobiec, what's your social media? Where'd he go, sir?
00:34:53.120
What's that? Jack Posobiec. We're going to be up on the thought crime podcast. We're going to go
00:34:57.060
live. We're going to drop that a little bit earlier tonight. And Steve, I'll just say it.
00:35:00.900
There's a reason that they've been trying to stop Trump for all of these 10 years because he's the
00:35:05.220
one man who could do what he did. There's a reason they tried to strip him from the ballot to stop
00:35:09.560
him from running. There's a reason they tried to bankrupt him, to try to imprison him,
00:35:13.300
and tried to have his head blown off live on CNN. We all know it. It's because Donald J. Trump is
00:35:20.280
singularly the one man for this time of this century that could save the American Republic.
00:35:30.280
Brother, thank you so much. Good luck on your podcast.
00:35:35.040
Given the 10 years that starts on the 15th, the day after the 250th anniversary of the army,
00:35:41.140
the big parade, the celebration we're going to have. Dave, what really gets into my craw today
00:35:46.040
is the audacity to sit there and talk about impeaching Trump, knowing what Hakeem Jeffries
00:35:52.240
would do. That is someone that doesn't understand our movement, doesn't understand the people in our
00:35:57.820
movement, don't understand what we're talking about, and don't understand what our people have
00:36:01.320
gone through for 10 years. Remember, it was hard at the beginning when Trump was mocked and ridiculed
00:36:06.880
and dismissed, particularly by Fox, when they tried to take him out in their very first debate in 2015,
00:36:12.200
45 days after he came down the escalator, first week of June. You know, Megyn Kelly, Brent Baer,
00:36:17.780
all of them, we've kind of made amends with Megyn at the time. I don't even think it was her choice.
00:36:21.960
It was Murdoch's choice that you see in the Wall Street Journal every day. But the audacity to call
00:36:26.600
for his impeachment, everything that guy's done for you, everything he did to promote you,
00:36:31.020
your failures, and you're calling for his impeachment. This is, and Hakeem Jeffries,
00:36:36.860
and knowing Hakeem Jeffries will do, and with all the programs that we do, right, and he's sitting
00:36:41.000
there saying I'm a big MAGA guy, Hakeem Jeffries would destroy everything. It would make the, also
00:36:44.980
the next two years, absolute torture. Yeah, I, I'm not making any judgments, but this is where the
00:36:51.240
Judeo-Christian West comes in, right? There's a transcendent aspect to this about being thankful
00:36:58.160
to God above, right? And that thankfulness results in respect for the country, and the country is we
00:37:06.300
the people. And I am thankful, you know, I had tremendous friendships. The people that came and
00:37:11.820
worked for me, they traveled hours, days, walked, did everything, and I don't think he understands
00:37:18.180
that piece. What he, the people he's putting down right now are in the hundred million range,
00:37:23.420
right? It's not about him and having this pithy little argument, it might be fun,
00:37:27.480
but he doesn't understand what's going on in the world right now, right? There, there's a kinetic
00:37:31.560
war of major proportions going on right now. We have the bond market erupting, we got a border
00:37:37.620
crisis, we got a rule law problem, we got a judiciary that's out of whack, we got a second
00:37:43.400
article two debate between me and you coming up some other time, I guess, but he doesn't get the
00:37:48.760
significance, the moral significance of what it means to love, right? To love God, to love your
00:37:55.080
country, it appears to me, right? All political views are my own, but to make those comments and
00:38:00.840
to crash the only guy who's standing in the breach on all these issues, right? Without him,
00:38:06.860
like Jack just said, it's toast. Okay, let me be blunt about, let me be blunt about something else
00:38:11.500
that we talk about every day. Well, President Trump takes a morning call from Xi, he has a call
00:38:17.760
yesterday with Putin, hour and a half called Putin, hour and a half called with Xi, two of the toughest
00:38:22.680
hombres in history. We're on the cusp right now, ladies and gentlemen, of a war. We're in the
00:38:31.060
kinetic early stages of the kinetic part. If Trump is the peacemaker and can't, we can't put it to bed
00:38:36.120
and try to negotiate this thing, this war will be more brutal and more savage and more property loss
00:38:43.720
and more people loss and more lives destroyed and more families destroyed and more kids destroyed
00:38:47.860
than World War I and II combined. So he's got that. He's also got the court trying to chop block him
00:38:54.300
on everything and every day they're giving him legal briefs and they're trying to bind him up and you
00:38:59.840
can't do anything, you're not commander-chief, you can't send the bad hombres out of here, you can't
00:39:05.020
deport anybody. Every day, hundreds of briefs, lawyers running out of the Oval Office talking about
00:39:11.340
the briefs on every court, 200 lawsuits and every day they're filing something else. Then he's got
00:39:16.320
the big, beautiful bill. He had to go as president of the United States for the first time in the
00:39:21.420
history of his republic, had to go up to Capitol Hill to talk to the conference, to whip it himself
00:39:25.460
because Johnson and Emerson are too incompetent to do it. And quite frankly, the bill is kind of all over
00:39:31.160
the map. It's what we got. It's being made better by people right now. There's going to be a lot of fights
00:39:36.000
about that. Trump's got to go up and do that. Then he's got to, yesterday, he's got to call the Senate
00:39:39.060
Finance Committee down the White House. This guy works 20 hours a day. And these aren't small
00:39:44.340
problems, not problems we face here at the Wormans, not the problems in your life. The problems in your
00:39:49.320
life are big for you. And we know that, like our problems are big for us. He's working at a world
00:39:54.740
historical level of problems and solutions that'll set the country for the next 50, 60, 70 years and set
00:40:02.860
the world where maybe a hundred million people die or they don't. This is the pressure on the guy.
00:40:09.560
And to have the audacity to send these tweets out and to say, I want him, I want him, I want him
00:40:16.420
impeached. I know he's only here for three and a half years. I think Elon Musk said, I'm there for 40.
00:40:22.820
Well, bro, I hope you know how to work in a prison cell for 40. Okay. Because don't think you're just
00:40:30.320
going to come after Trump and people around Trump and people understand what Trump's been through
00:40:34.040
and understand what he's going through today. Think about your own life. Think about what this
00:40:39.320
guy deals with. Well, I did my hour and a half call with Putin, right? Where I know this guy already
00:40:44.580
is livid because his strategic bombers were hit and they're going to hit back because these are the
00:40:50.520
Russians. Okay. And you got Xi, who I would argue is the most powerful emperor in the history of
00:41:00.300
China. And it's been around for 10,000 fricking years. And he's, and you're, you're doing him.
00:41:06.680
And when you finish that, you'll walk into the Germans. I think I remember them from the 20th
00:41:12.240
century, right? The Germans are here and they got all kinds of issues and need all kinds of help.
00:41:16.960
And they're sitting there. You got to defend this. You got to do this. You got to do that. And they've,
00:41:20.440
they've done the green new scam. Dave Walsh tells you every day. It's one of the reasons the
00:41:24.360
country's imploding. Trump's got to deal with that. Every second of every day, the insolvable
00:41:30.480
problems come to his desk. And you think that someone who lied to him about a trillion dollar
00:41:38.260
cut and, and, and gave air cover to this group of clowns up here. So they didn't have to cut
00:41:43.260
anything. Then, oh, well, he came to our conference, told us it was going to be a trillion dollars of
00:41:47.160
waste, fraud, and abuse. Oops. Oops. And then to it, when you attack the bill and not to make
00:41:55.040
positive constructive changes, which yes, the bill needs that. This audience knows that people
00:42:01.300
know that Ron Johnson knows it. We've had him on. People are working on it. Some things people are
00:42:06.580
going to like some people, other things are not like I'm banging the drum every day to raise taxes
00:42:11.100
on the wealthy. I think it's going to work, but I don't know if it's going to work,
00:42:14.120
but you're certainly not going to sit there where the guy's got all this pressure and try to, and
00:42:18.920
say, oh, we ought to impeach him and put somebody else in right now.
00:42:24.980
This is about the immaturity. And now you've got the thing with oligarchs. They got this kind of
00:42:29.280
money, the immaturity, you come after you. And this is why a guy that stood in the breach like Trump
00:42:35.880
only comes along once in a century. If then most countries in the world don't have a general
00:42:43.020
Washington, they don't have an Abraham Lincoln. They don't have a Donald Trump. This is why a guy
00:42:48.680
like this is incredible. And if you look at this journey that we've taken starting on the 15th of
00:42:55.020
June, you see it. I tell you what, hang on, hang on. We're going to hold on. We're going to go to the
00:42:59.260
break. I'm going to finally, I'm going to turn the mic over. Brad, you're in the war room, dude. You
00:43:01.940
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00:43:05.780
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00:45:24.080
the Chinese first. She says U.S. should remove negative measures on China. That would be terrorists
00:45:29.960
and other things. She tells Trump China has implemented the Geneva agreement, which President
00:45:35.100
Trump says they have not. She also says it's important to spell disruptions in China-U.S.
00:45:41.500
relations. He wants to be, he's not a decouple guy. As you know, the word is decouple, hardcore
00:45:47.400
decouple. She says U.S. should deal with Taiwan, and I quote, cautiously. So they're laying down
00:45:55.760
the marker there. Now, the President has put up his readout. I'll read it to you in his entirety.
00:46:01.560
I've just concluded a very good phone call with President Xi of China discussing some of the
00:46:05.280
intricacies of a recently made and agreed to trade deal. The call lasted approximately one and a half
00:46:10.920
hours and resulted in a very positive conclusion for both countries. There should be no longer any
00:46:15.680
questions respecting the complexity of rare earth products. That means the magnets and the ball
00:46:19.980
bearings were somehow talked about. That's the big deal, the processing part. Our respective teams
00:46:25.680
will be meeting shortly at a location to be determined. We will resemble the Secretary of Treasury
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Scott Besson, Commerce Secretary Lutnik, United States Trade Rep, Ambassador Greer. During the
00:46:35.020
conversation, President Xi graciously invited the First Lady and me to visit China, and I reciprocated
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President Trump invited the United States. As presidents of two great nations, this is
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something that we both look forward to doing. The conversation was focused almost entirely
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on trade. That's in capital letters, President Trump. Nothing was discussed concerning Russia,
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Ukraine, or Iran. So no strategic discussions. We will inform the media as to scheduling and location
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of the soon-to-be meeting. That is with the representatives. Thank you for your attention in this matter,
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President Trump. Two interpretations, right? Chinese not shy about putting out, hey, he says we didn't
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do good with what happened in Geneva with Besson and these guys. We're complying with all of it,
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okay? The issues about the rare earth, folks should understand that's a big deal, particularly these
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magnets and, I think, ball bearings, the processing of this. So somehow that's getting, and there's some
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discussion, of course, no strategic discussion. Yeah, and, you know, when you just put yourself in the
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president's seat, right? When it comes to his ball bearings and our security, we have to reveal,
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because we're a transparent country and we're honest, good people, our weaknesses up front,
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because our people have a say in this government. And so we have to respond. So they get leverage.
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Can you imagine the leverage we have on them that we don't know about? They're in a way worse position
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than we are, right? And so this shows you the humanity of President Trump. He's thinking through
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this, right, strategically, but he's also got small business people in mind. Xi has no, he could care
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less about humanity, right? If his people got to care less about the Chinese people, right? If they
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get crushed for some years due to trade and whatever, we have total leverage over them right now.
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Okay, the rare earths are self-owned. The rare earths are nothing but dirt, but the processing of
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rare earths, and it's very messy, and this is why the environmentalists, and essentially, I think
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there was a company in Ohio, and I don't know how CFIUS approved this, but years ago, I think 10
00:48:34.100
years ago, the Chinese thinking downrange, as they always do, the CCP, purchased the basically the
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processing and took it apart and shipped it to China. So the processing part, I think was in Ohio,
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was a company, and they bought it for under a billion dollars. That company is one of the most
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strategic assets they have, because this is where they get the magnets. And people should understand,
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there are manufacturing companies, they're sitting there going, hey, unless I get these
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things, we may be shutting down two or three lines here.
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So you're in favor of long-term strategic thinking, and all the brilliant points I was
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Always. But you sound like, no, stop, stop. I agree with that. I'm telling you, you sound like
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a pilgrim. Ron Johnson will tell you, no, you are over that. Dude, you're a guy, let me just
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reiterate for Dave Brett. He's the only person in the history of this nation.
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Of this republic that defeated a sitting majority leader in a primary and beat the guy by 10
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You. The only guys that had your back. In doing that, when you went to Capitol Hill,
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they wouldn't let him go to the congressional room where you eat lunch. The lunchroom, they
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They go, no soup, no soup for you. They throw him out. And then Dave Brad goes up, hey, everybody's
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getting committee assignments. How much money do I have to raise? They go, no, no, no, you
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me you're going to walk up and, hey, let's get a strategic plan. Let's get a vision statement.
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Here's the vision statement. No MAGA. That's a vision.
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Yeah. Well, and believe it or not, we actually had a vision statement on paper in Virginia,
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the Virginia Republican creed, which no one follows, right? Balance the budget. You ever
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heard of that thing? I mean, it's just unbelievable. And all those guys, the 100 blobules I'm talking
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about in our conference, they're all going to go out and give speeches right now. And
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they're going to say, I'm a fiscal hawk. I'm for a balanced budget. Why did you vote for
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the speaker in advance when you come in. I'm not voting for a deficit. Okay. Next hour,
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So Hawley's going to join us. Also Raheem, Rick Grinnell, Ambassador Grinnell, what a job
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