The Ayatollahs of Iran have nuclear weapons and they are trying to destroy the world with nuclear weapons. Why does Israel need nuclear weapons? How can we protect ourselves from them? Why should we withdraw from the Middle East?
00:18:29.360welcome back uh 10 years after uh one of the most monumental events in american political history
00:18:34.880as i said at the top of the show you've had general washington at the birth of the nation
00:18:38.640father abraham lincoln at the rebirth of the nation and donald john trump at the reclamation of the nation the three greatest presidents this nation has ever had
00:18:48.720and uh a man who has risen above all personal imperfections because we're all imperfect
00:18:54.160to reveal true greatness and what greatness is particularly in the cauldron
00:18:58.720of having to make decisions as commander-in-chief as the chief executive officer of the united states government and as chief magistrate and treat chief law enforcement officer
00:19:07.440no individual in the history of this country
00:19:11.040when the election in 2020 was stolen he went back to mar-a-lago in those months those three four five six months
00:19:16.880when he knew that if he was to return and really set things right of the stolen election from the illegitimate biden regime
00:19:23.520they would try to destroy his family destroy his business bankrupt him smear him
00:19:28.160put him in prison and eventually try to assassinate him
00:19:31.600you talk about john kennedy's uh profiles and courage read the entire book read it twice
00:19:35.680you can add it all up and triple it and you will never see a profile and courage of what president
00:19:41.360trump did in those actions to come back and say i've got to set things right like i say he's the american
00:19:46.320cincinnatus return like the great roman general returned from his plow to save the roman republic
00:19:52.000president trump returned from mar-a-lago to save the american republic and we're in it now
00:19:56.880these 10 years the the triumphs and the tragedies the highs and the lows the victories and the defeats
00:20:02.480are only a preamble for what's happening now because now we're in it honored to have eric
00:20:08.480trump join us eric at the top of the escalator i know you guys had talked to your father had talked
00:20:14.080it through uh did you ever think in a billion years that this journey would turn out like it has so far
00:20:20.960sir we'll see those beautiful open and and um no not in our wildest dreams actually started you know
00:20:28.000about two days before that escalator ride my father called us all into his office and his office is
00:20:32.480actually literally 10 feet above my head right now i'm in trump tower and he called us up there and he
00:20:37.360goes you know kids i'm gonna do this let's do it and and by let's everything we had ever done we had
00:20:42.000always done as a family and we didn't done the apprentice we did the real estate thing everything
00:20:45.360we had always done we'd always fought together as a family and he goes but kids you know we're gonna
00:20:49.280get hit harder than you've ever possibly imagined they're gonna attack us in ways that we can't even
00:20:54.400fathom and we're gonna learn who our true friends were and i'll never forget those words and i've
00:20:59.200uttered them many times but i mean the intuition of the man was incredible and sure enough two three
00:21:03.440days later he comes down that escalator and and the rest is history they tried to impeach him twice
00:21:08.480they took out you know they tried went after supreme court justices ruthlessly they um the russia hoax
00:21:14.960which you've talked about more than anyone steve um the dirty dossiers the subpoenas i mean i became
00:21:20.800the most subpoenaed person arguably in american history um as a way to get to my father right
00:21:25.840they couldn't get him in the executive branch so what did they do they came after me like like i was
00:21:29.600a dog uh they tried to bankrupt our company they tried to put us out of business they um they tried
00:21:34.880to take him off the ballot in colorado obviously in maine right and i mean they took away his free
00:21:40.160speech they took him off of twitter and instagram and facebook they literally tried to deprive him of
00:21:44.880his first amendment right uh they tried to kill him twice uh coincidentally um and then they had
00:21:50.480every single ultra left-wing you know ag and da in this country prosecute the hell out of him for
00:21:57.840doing absolutely nothing wrong whatsoever and despite that he gets off that stage he puts his hand in
00:22:04.000in the air with blood coming down his face and plenty of other times where it wasn't
00:22:08.560blood but you know he was battered and bruised and he goes we're gonna fight and we're never ever
00:22:13.280gonna stop and we're gonna fight for this nation and we're gonna get our country back on track
00:22:17.680he's the toughest guy i've ever met in my life he's the greatest father you could have ever had
00:22:20.880as a person and i am i'm so honored i was probably the first person on that stage with him right when
00:22:25.520he came down that escalator um there were very few steve at the time you know that and by the way
00:22:30.720even the ones that were most of them deserted us in in the kind of 2021 years um i've never been
00:22:37.200more proud to be by somebody's side to stand on this stage to fight with a man and um look what
00:22:43.040he's done for our country look what he's done for modern politics um he's become the greatest rhino
00:22:48.880hunter in the history of the world i mean the neocons of the republican party are all extinct
00:22:54.800and and you look at the cabinet that we have now you look at the way that they're fighting you look
00:22:58.720at the things that they believe in you look at the things that they're doing um republicans 10 years
00:23:03.680ago would have thought that none of it was possible because they had lost hope uh and we're
00:23:07.520going to be a better nation for it so incredibly proud of him incredibly proud of this journey
00:23:12.800and um special special day we lost hope because the republican party had been part of the problem
00:23:18.160to control opposition we didn't have a leader we didn't have a leader that had the moral qualities
00:23:23.040of your fathers and we didn't have a family that would not shatter you guys have gone through the
00:23:27.680cauldron of this uh a huge announcement today in trump tower on the 10th anniversary walkers you guys are
00:23:34.000are developing into many many different business lines talk to me about this huge announcement
00:23:38.400today sir well steve over the last couple years we got into really kind of the digital space right
00:23:44.240the technology space we had to do that we developed truth socially you know why because they literally
00:23:48.880shut down our ability to communicate through censorship right through taking away my father's first
00:23:52.960amendment right and so we developed truth social which allowed us to communicate to the entire country
00:23:58.000and it was incredibly successful sure enough you know as a guy who runs the trump organization all of a
00:24:02.400sudden they started de-platforming us debanking us the biggest banks in this country came after us
00:24:06.960sent us letters we had perfect track record never any problems had great relationships for 30 years
00:24:12.080sorry we're canceling all of your bank accounts the biggest buildings the biggest hotels golf courses
00:24:17.440gone because they didn't like the fact that you know the ultimate owner wore a hat that said make
00:24:22.480america great again and was red um and today we started trump mobile um which is going to revolutionize
00:24:28.320the cell phone industry and it's going to really shake up the cell phone industry they've done a terrible job
00:24:32.960it's become too expensive um everything's overseas we want a product that's made in america for americans
00:24:38.960we want customer service to be in the united states of america um and uh and we're going to bring it
00:24:45.120back and we're going to massively disrupt the industry and and i've never been more excited so
00:24:50.080when you combine kind of the cryptocurrencies to again you know take on the big banks that otherwise
00:24:55.680de-platformed us and those ventures are going so well uh when you take on again these voice boxes that
00:25:00.960we have to counter the attacks on our first amendment right as americans uh and then obviously when you
00:25:06.080take the hard tangible product i think we're creating technology company and as a branch to
00:25:11.360the trump organization that i think is really going to be second to none now are you going to oversee
00:25:16.880this uh are you going to oversee this venture yeah well we have wonderful partners uh partners that
00:25:22.240built some of the biggest cell phone companies um you know in our nation you would know the names of
00:25:26.400every single one of them and and so i'm obviously i'm very involved i'm very into it um i love the
00:25:31.280notion of doing this i love security benefits because listen steve neither you nor i trust talking
00:25:36.800on our cell phones um at any point and so that's something seriously where we're gonna we're gonna
00:25:42.080seriously um you know be running toward in in the coming months um and in years because that and then
00:25:48.480you know 47 a month you've got you know free calling uh unlimited calling unlimited text
00:25:54.320to over 100 countries around the world uh we're really really doing this right and guess what
00:25:58.480when you call up because you need service on your cell phone you want to adjust your plan
00:26:02.240you're calling somebody in st louis missouri you're not calling somebody in bangladesh you're not calling
00:26:05.680somebody in you know in india you're calling somebody in our country and i think that's also
00:26:10.560really important from a security standpoint i mean there's not a week that goes by where there's
00:26:13.600not another data breach because one of these call centers sells you know people's personal
00:26:17.600information and we saw that last week with a major u.s company and so we're incredibly proud of what
00:26:22.720we're creating and um we're doing it right and um it's it's a made in american product for americans
00:26:27.520and uh you know we're honored to be doing it eric where do people go today to find out more
00:26:32.080information about this where do they what's the social media they have a landing page or a website
00:26:36.480very simple trump mobile.com trump mobile.com and the phones are beautiful we even have a limited
00:26:42.320edition phone that's um they polish gold which uh is kind of meaningful to the whole escalator ride and
00:26:49.040you know everything that uh kind of we stand for but obviously uh you can get e-sim cards um so if
00:26:54.560you want to get on the trump plan literally go on trump mobile get an e-sim card you can convert your
00:26:58.400existing phone um over instantaneously it's really an easy process so we can't wait to onboard a lot of
00:27:04.560people and um you know we're going to protect people and we're going to um i think we're going to
00:27:09.840change uh really change the industry in in major major ways and uh we're very excited to be in the space
00:27:15.680fantastic um by the way the gold phone is on brand um real quickly i would love to have you come back
00:27:23.440also war room myself all the people close to president trump are all debanked credit cards cut
00:27:27.920sometimes even insurance trying to be cut i'd love to have you back on and spend a little time to walk
00:27:32.080through that i don't think even maga understands what they try to do to president trump to bankrupt you
00:27:37.040guys they cut you off from all lines of uh of credit and cash and even get your own bank account
00:27:42.080that's a story that's not been told also uh the war room posse loves your wife loves the show um
00:27:47.920and thank you send our regards eric what's your social media people would absolutely love where
00:27:53.120people catch up at eric trump where do people at eric trump on on every single one of the the handles
00:27:58.400uh obviously x instagram you know facebook and you know love social media it's our way of beating
00:28:03.440back on the unfair media and it's worked uh yeah steve we've won the battle we've really won the battle
00:28:08.480we'll continue to win the battle but we've won the battle and honored so um and thanks for all your
00:28:13.120support you've been true kind of champion in this war and they didn't let you get pushed around and
00:28:17.760and you fought like hell against the most unfair people in in the universe in the world and um we're
00:28:23.600back on top my friend and we appreciate you very much thank you brother i appreciate you the battle
00:28:29.120hardened trump family announces trump mobile today thank you so much sir let's get it up grace and mo if you
00:28:34.000can push it out in social media everywhere so people know where to go eric trump lara trump that
00:28:39.920uh her show on saturday night i think her show on saturday night is doing two and a half million
00:28:43.040people on a saturday night pretty impressive uh a woman that's got uh smarts toughs and uh a little
00:28:51.120equality lacking in the modern world she has class very classy very nice a lot of discernment okay
00:28:58.720we got a lot going on we got a special guest in the second hour we're lighting things up here the
00:29:04.480big war is the war the war here the number one priority we cannot take our eye off it for anything
00:29:11.920that is the uh ceiling of the border and the deportation of a minimum of 10 million illegal
00:29:17.200alien evaders here on biden's watch much more to do there but the president last night reiterated
00:29:22.960he's doubling and tripling down on ice raids in sanctuary cities also there's some confusion i
00:29:30.400think about agriculture workers all of it president trump came out shortly thereafter saying 20 million
00:29:35.440illegal aliens i think his numbers are probably more accurate than mine right gotta go and they're
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00:32:51.200bann uh welcome back you're in the war room i want to thank eric trump uh the folks at trump tower jane and
00:32:59.280uh david zeer harry everybody made that happen harry you know did the great what did we do six
00:33:04.560hours we did the worm on saturday morning our traditional worm then i think we did four at
00:33:09.200least i stood there for four i was wiped at the end of that i was wiped at the end of that folks
00:33:14.160we actually put on a party afterwards at butterworth or thrahim i was a no-show
00:33:18.960i just i said hey i got so much to do on sunday i got so much to do on monday uh i gotta be ready
00:33:25.520i gotta hit it and i couldn't even go to one of the parties at the worm through hey stop whining ben
00:33:31.440and no whining in the war room mike lindell you're in federal court in um in uh denver colorado do we
00:33:40.240have a verdict yet no they're right now they're all there is the signing we hope they have a verdict by noon
00:33:46.960uh we're praying for obviously unanimous vote uh to finally uh get this behind us and move on and
00:33:54.560secure our elections um the um i want to thank all the war room posse though this is it this is what
00:34:00.960we've all waited for you guys got us through remember my pillow suit here and uh it hasn't
00:34:06.640happened to a company like this with lawfare ever that i know of but we stood paul and we went all
00:34:12.240the way to jury trial where everybody else gave in with to this law fair so i want to thank the
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00:34:23.040on some colors but you guys we're going to do it one more day for you this is it you guys 49.98
00:34:28.800any size any color get as many as you want promo code war room and this and then we're also going to
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00:34:52.880the time it chroma code war room go to the website you guys scroll down and click on steve this is the
00:34:58.960day we gotta we really need to break some records get the crosses 100 made in the usa uh and save 50
00:35:06.640on that we've got the pillows my employees busy making them the pillows we've we're over 85 we're
00:35:12.000approaching 85 million my pillows sold now a lot of us because of the war room posse and you guys get
00:35:17.760the best price of anyone uh 50 off all the blankets sheets and everything 800-873-1062 tell my employees
00:35:27.200that you got their back they've you guys have got us through this terrible time and uh it's going to
00:35:32.320be glorious today steve i really believe we're going to have a win win win okay brother we'll uh
00:35:38.320we'll uh come back to you uh we'll come back to you as soon as we hear something mike you get to me
00:35:42.320we'll get you right up right away okay all right you got it thanks for a room posse promo code war room
00:35:48.720promo code war room uh by the way so we're gonna have a special guest we've got we've got another guest
00:35:53.760here now this is a guest not the special guest um what by the way i thought jack posovic walked in
00:35:59.760with the clone it did what we got a new we have a new we have a new proof what is this oh wow boom
00:36:07.200we don't really have that in the war room posse showed up first of the no women in the war room
00:36:11.840right no girls it's like the our gang comedy or whatever um great uh great uh trip down to dc
00:36:18.240you were dallas to the com back to dc go to the parade support your 101st airborne your army then
00:36:24.480back then back back to back there in the wee hours the morning yesterday morning and then i was trying
00:36:30.320to get back here earlier yesterday but american airlines had some other plans great uh great panel
00:36:36.560down there great panel discussion thank you you good you ready now i got about 10 things i'm gonna yell
00:36:41.200at you at after the show let's start with the merge site now i'll i'll wait on that i'll wait on that
00:36:46.160to get on top of you and grace you guys doing a great job um catherine o'neill joins us catherine
00:36:54.240um you know catherine you ran a little hot in the 16 campaign you ran a little you know over at the
00:37:00.800over the state department they were trying to bounce you out all the time because you were
00:37:04.000an advocate i think it was religious freedom right and then at the white house uh and then on the second
00:37:09.440campaign you've been a mega uh trump hoplite for a long time you've been running a business you
00:37:15.440decided hey i'm going to be an entrepreneur like taj gill and others we know trevor constock people
00:37:21.040that are mega or make america healthy again that have decided hey the way we're going to build this
00:37:25.280like eric trump said today with their new venture you know eric's not really in politics he's an
00:37:30.000advisor to his dad but he spends his time building uh building businesses um but over the weekend you
00:37:36.480kind of took a look at your business and you took umbrage with something that was coming out
00:37:40.720from the administration and i think it's been reversed already walk me through because this
00:37:45.040tweet you put up ma'am has i think four million hits on it what what did you say and if we can get
00:37:50.800the tweet up tell me what was in that tweet that got you know made it go mega viral ma'am
00:37:57.600yeah steve so you know i'm the ceo of merryweather farms and as you know uh the war room posse has been
00:38:03.920very supportive of us and um what happened over the weekend is that the trump administration um
00:38:10.640issued a stop order on the ice raids for hotels farms meat packing plants etc because a lot of
00:38:19.200these big corporations these big food corporations hire and exploit illegal labor and i just wanted to
00:38:25.520make it clear that we at merriweather farms all of our employees are u.s citizens um and we are we can
00:38:32.960make an example that farmers can do it without exploiting illegal labor and meat packing plants can
00:38:39.520do it without exploiting illegal labor so i wanted to make that point clear um to to the country dc drano's
00:38:49.360got a got a post up too about big ag he says big ag pays the illegal aliens only like 20 000 bucks a year
00:38:55.520right and that that leads to the schools being destroyed the health services being destroyed the
00:39:01.120communities being destroyed law and order in which big ag doesn't pick up any of the tab for that is
00:39:06.000that correct absolutely no because typically schools are funded through property taxes so if they're not
00:39:12.960paying property taxes they're not contributing to the school system so they're allowed to hire uh you
00:39:19.200know these individuals at slave wages while people like us who do it the right way we pay like i said
00:39:27.280in my tweet we pay all of our full-time employees have full health care period end of story which is
00:39:33.040unusual for a company like us but you know we're blessed and we're vertically integrated so we're able
00:39:38.880to do that and i don't expect everyone to do that but we've made a point to do it ourselves and so
00:39:44.880why is it that these big multinational corporations are paying these individuals slave wages while we're
00:39:52.000doing the right thing as americans um where do people go to find out more about this and more
00:39:58.640about your thoughts on this because this is a direct response for not doing the raids at agriculture
00:40:03.680at hotels at all of it you you responded and of course maga wants to go now the president put out
00:40:08.240something he's on triple down on ice raids in the inner cities to get the sanctuary cities i know you're
00:40:13.360you're a big advocate of doing all of it where do people go right now on your social media yeah you
00:40:19.040can follow us at at merriweather farms you know i i when you're running a business you don't really
00:40:25.040have time to tweet and to put things out but um you know and i and i'm a mother too so that's my first
00:40:31.920priority but i figured you know we need we need clear clear voices in this space and we need clear
00:40:37.920examples of how to do it the right way and i hope that my company merriweather farms can lead the
00:40:42.880example for others in the industry so find us at merriweather farms we're on twitter we're on
00:40:48.640getter um we're on facebook on instagram all the socials and then we're also offering a special
00:40:55.040today if you go to our website you guys always off ask for the burger blowout so go to our website
00:41:00.400merriweatherfarms.com and you'll see it right on the home page you you have turned to an entrepreneur
00:41:05.920you sit there you're ripping on them for not doing the rage you're saying hey i'm giving them
00:41:09.040health care i'm paying them a decent wage and here's how you buy my beef katherine o'neill you're
00:41:12.880a warrior you've been with us from the beginning president trump i know loves you thank you so much
00:41:17.440appreciate you ma'am thanks steve have a great day what a day i've got uh we've got eric trump
00:41:25.360and now we've got d tucker carlson in the world room thank you it's good to see you this is by the
00:41:32.240way you were here years ago andrew breitbart when andrew breitbart lived here you were up at the
00:41:36.800top i was here the day it opened and yes it looks exactly the same i can't believe you're still here
00:41:43.200i mean that's 15 years anyway 15 years so 2011 14 years going on 15 to 10. what um i know since you
00:41:50.960left dc you're you are very hesitant to spend a lot of time here yes you're not you're this is not your
00:41:56.080favorite town anymore i spent my whole life here i have family here i have close family here so i i
00:42:00.080come back to see them but not not very often why are you in town you're gonna spend a couple days
00:42:05.040in town which is quite um i'm interviewing various people um the president's gone but i'm seeing a
00:42:10.960bunch of people and um you know there's a lot going on and i feel like there aren't many people
00:42:17.440representing the hey let's have less violence and focus on america side of things so it's worth coming
00:42:23.920just to to say that out loud of course you're hated for it it's crazy how the people who are against
00:42:29.920killing are the criminals all of a sudden it's wild and i thought the other day this is accelerating
00:42:36.800and i was hearing all this you know i'm going to war with iran and i was a party was like oh
00:42:40.960we're not really gonna do that after we have this election whose core point was hey can we just pay
00:42:48.720attention to this amazing nation that we have that's suffering and people are taking loans out to buy
00:42:53.520groceries and like we need attention and money and micro payments they buy now and they pay micro
00:42:59.840payments for food for food but hey let's pay for somebody else's missile defense no so i i start to
00:43:07.120think i start to hear this stuff and i'm like this can't be real but then it becomes obvious to me that
00:43:11.920it is real and i think that is the last conversation i want to be part of i have zero interest in
00:43:18.720this conversation at all i know it's all downside for me it's like i'm going to get you know rich
00:43:23.920and make more friends trying to stop but why why why is the the argument that you're making i'm
00:43:30.320making a slightly different argument but it's trinity why are you being vilified so i mean we just had
00:43:36.880tom cut we played clips before you got here we had mark levin tom cotton we had bb bb said last night
00:43:41.600to brent bear oh it's 12 to 13 months away from you know we're supposed that we're supposed the bomb
00:43:46.560supposed to be on friday or saturday now he's telling brent bear on sunday really we got
00:43:50.880intelligence but it's 12 to 13 months away which is something they've been saying forever it's so
00:43:55.680funny that bb's more honest about it than than his water carriers here in the united states like you
00:44:00.960would never get barry weiss or tom cotton to admit that well tom cotton took a shot he said the you
00:44:06.320know he's mad at bb now bb no no no he took a shot he's not pro israel he took it he took a shot the
00:44:12.160same podcasters and influencers right or don't have the accountability the responsibility here
00:44:17.600you know yes i i really try i've spent a lot of my life being cruel and um really cruel and i'll have
00:44:23.920to answer for that someday and at times dishonest what do you mean cruel just going after people's
00:44:29.440weaknesses no that's my instinct always i mean i grew up as a debater and i'm nasty in some ways and
00:44:36.480so i look at some of the players in this whom i've known since they got to washington since again i'm
00:44:40.880from here at breakfast the metropolitan club this morning um alone and uh no this is like my city
00:44:47.360right my dad worked for the government this is where we're from and and i look at these people who
00:44:51.120i've known since they you know came in from the provinces including the senator you mentioned who's
00:44:55.760from a state i used to live in um and you know you could really be mean about it and they are mean
00:45:01.680you know they've attacked my family and all this stuff a lot but i'm trying not to respond that
00:45:08.080way my interest is really simple i don't want the united states enmeshed in another middle eastern
00:45:13.360war that doesn't serve our interests i saw that last time i covered that war i had a friend killed
00:45:17.440in that war talk about iraq because iraq is saying some of the same voices at the fox platform who was
00:45:22.320so you know the fox platform is just it's so disgraceful what's you know there's so many good
00:45:26.240people at fox um i worked for the murdochs for you know all in over 20 years i always liked them i like
00:45:31.760them now i'm not attacking them personally and tons of people at fox are my friends and i there's a
00:45:37.760lot about fox that i love um and they were kind to me always even when they fired me they were nice i
00:45:41.600just want to say that but the one theme that runs longitudinally through the history of fox is the
00:45:48.240promotion of wars that don't help the united states and i know why is why is that it's the owners are
00:45:54.320committed to that vision and um and they are elaborately polite nice people you know them
00:46:00.400rupert and laughlin i mean they were sitting here there's no chance you wouldn't like them and
00:46:04.320they're interesting and they're smart and they're just nice they're super nice but we disagree
00:46:08.800fundamentally on that and the claws really come out at moments like this you know most of the time
00:46:14.640it's you know it's fine but when it really comes down when it's a question of whether u.s military
00:46:20.160power will be exerted on behalf of a foreign country thousands of miles from here they are
00:46:24.080all in and anyone who stands the way will be destroyed i don't think it's personal by the way
00:46:28.400i like tom cotton i always like barry weiss barry weiss very charming person um i like all these
00:46:34.320people i was like mark levin like i got along with him i mean he's blowhard sad personal life and all
00:46:39.600that but i i was never mad at mark levin or hannity i like brilliant constitutional guy yeah
00:46:45.760there are great things about all these people i don't think they hate me personally they know i'm not
00:46:49.120working for qatar i feel like maybe i should be working for qatar like what the hell at this point
00:46:55.200i've never taken a dime from any foreign country or anybody actually um in fact you just bought out
00:47:00.640i think it was announced you bought at your investors yeah i'm not a money guy i mean they're
00:47:03.680projecting if you could see my house like i've made more money than i deserve but i've not gotten rich
00:47:09.200and i don't live like a rich person everyone knows that they're money people that's why they're projecting
00:47:14.560or they're people with opaque motives my motives are i'm like autistic about my whole life i just i'm
00:47:20.960totally happy to tell you why i'm doing what i'm doing and i want to be transparent and i think
00:47:25.440pretty much i am they're the ones who have these weird complex motives and so they project onto
00:47:31.440everyone else the same oh you're getting paid by somebody you you're not sincere you don't really
00:47:36.640think that you're saying it in order to get clicks or it's also dumb and in my case untrue you may
00:47:41.600dislike my views and you may have good reason to dislike my views and i understand that but they're totally
00:47:47.280sincere anyway my temptation in a moment like this is to go low and to note that a lot of the people
00:47:55.840pushing for this stuff have really empty tormented personal lives that's true of many in washington
00:48:01.200and that this is a way to kind of feel powerful i mean nothing makes you feel more powerful than
00:48:05.600killing other people that's the ultimate power and and we talk so much about money and sex and those
00:48:11.040are drivers of human behavior of course those are powerful impulses in people to accumulate
00:48:14.880more of both but really the ultimate power the promethean power the core power is the power to
00:48:22.560kill and when you deny that to people or you seek to deny that to people or you raise the point that
00:48:28.000actually you can't kill people and that when you do you will suffer for that as you said the other day
00:48:33.840and i and i just i loved i meditated on it in that moment in matthew and it's not just in matthew
00:48:38.480it's in john it's in a number of gospels where jesus scolds peter for raising the sword in his defense
00:48:44.880they're hauling off jesus to torture him to death for no reason all he did was heal people
00:48:51.040and his closest disciples seeks to defend him with violence and jesus scolds him
00:48:55.600and then gets hauled off by the way they could have made a break they would have stood up and jesus
00:49:00.800wouldn't have been seized and it had all gone on but he told him right there live by the sword die by
00:49:05.520and he scolds him it's unbelievable he's mad at peter it's just incredible anyway whether or not you
00:49:14.320believe in christianity whether or not you're a christian it doesn't matter it is true that people
00:49:21.600who espouse violence suffer in the end they do i have seen it a lot and i grew up in a world that
00:49:29.360have espoused violence that's what the u.s government does my dad was involved in it and i just i just
00:49:35.760believe that and maybe you don't believe that that's fine that is my core belief i sincerely think that
00:49:39.760but why the hate towards someone who's just like hey i i'm not i'm hard if you think and i said this
00:49:45.920to an israeli official if you think i'm anti-israel man you are you have lost the plot son
00:49:52.800um if you think i'm your enemy not at all i like israel are you kidding um i've spent a lot of time
00:50:00.400there i continue to like it i pray that jerusalem is not damaged i feel so sad for the israelis who've
00:50:05.760been killed in the last couple days and the iranians who've been killed in the last couple
00:50:08.800days with nothing to do with any of this but the point is if you think that saying hey let's focus
00:50:15.440on my country where i was born where my family's been for hundreds of years that was the promise
00:50:20.800of the last election please do it if you think that's hate you know you've really lost perspective
00:50:28.560i guess is what i would say but they do think it's hate and i've and what's happened is what i knew
00:50:32.800would happen which is just like uh attacks i don't want to deal with that are affecting personal
00:50:37.680friendships that i care about um the viciousness and the dishonesty is almost unbelievable um anyway
00:50:46.000not to whine i never whine about stuff like that it's just that i knew this was going to happen i
00:50:49.280didn't want to talk about it at all i'd much rather talk about immigration i'd much rather talk about
00:50:54.640keeping the dollar stores out of rural america they're all kind of much other talk about people taking
00:50:59.200out loans to buy groceries these are the declining life expectancy in this country fentanyl i mean
00:51:05.280someone else i know just died of fentanyl last week it's like all of that is now ignored because
00:51:11.440a leader of a country who does not have majority support in that country probably 30 support
00:51:16.880wants a course of action that includes the united states and i just disagree and anyway i think it's
00:51:23.520going to happen i don't you know who cares what you think that do you think we're enjoying the
00:51:27.360combat offensive combat opera well we have to we have to we can't assume that we have to stop
00:51:32.640the product of like look we have to stop you've actually helped run the governments i don't need
00:51:36.000to tell you you've been there decisions like this are never explicitly made they just sort of happen
00:51:41.520yes sort of like living with your girlfriend like you you know you wake up hungover one morning
00:51:46.000and she's there and then she just kind of doesn't leave and the next you know you get married and
00:51:50.400have kids like that's how most people make decisions just sort of on the basis of facts on the ground
00:51:56.320and these things move inexorably toward what they're moving to now which is full-scale war that
00:52:02.000includes lots of other countries either explicitly or not but the effect is the same it's a world war
00:52:08.320it's a war in which the world is participating well we're i think we're in the kinetic part from ukraine
00:52:13.280but today they just moved the carrier battle group from the south china sea the nimitz is heading
00:52:17.680toward the north arabian sea so they're there they've got the the tankers have flown over there so we're
00:52:23.600pre-positioning the assets of course to get involved and you think that this is going to
00:52:27.760happen there's no way we can stop it it's too i mean i think there are ways to stop it oh you are
00:52:32.560such a nice person sorry i needed the sacred beverage uh uh no of course there are ways to stop it it's
00:52:39.360just that unless you take it's like gaining weight which i have you know lived with it's like unless you
00:52:44.640are a crazy person devoted to being thin you will get fatter in your 50s like you have to take active
00:52:52.560steps to prevent the inevitable something that is inevitable otherwise and in this case what's
00:52:58.000inevitable absent those active monomaniacal steps uh toward preventing it is is a is a much larger
00:53:05.680work it's too easy to pull the united states into we have too many assets in that region we're too
00:53:09.440dependent on the energy from that region international oil markets are i mean there's
00:53:13.760so many things that could go wrong actually as horrifying as the lat the exchange between israel
00:53:18.560and iran has been horrifying in the sense that innocents have died which let me remind you is
00:53:22.560horrifying always and everywhere no tell them we have to believe he's got hit tehran's got hit civilians
00:53:27.280are dead in both places and if we don't think that that's sad then we're not fully human like you
00:53:34.160have to believe that's sad and you have to really mean it whether or not you know you can hate the
00:53:38.000iranian government i'm not for the iranian government but if you don't see the death of
00:53:43.040innocence anywhere is sad then you are gravely diminished certainly as a christian um hey whatever
00:53:50.400but there are so many ways to pull the united states into this um and the incentives to pull the us
00:53:56.480in are so profound i guess if i could just say one political thing the watching donald trump who of
00:54:04.160course you know very well who i think at core is sincere about peace oh big time yeah big time
00:54:11.280big time i mean that's that's real watching him done so wrong the lies oh he knew all along
00:54:20.240you know that the peace process was fake steve whitkoff was playing along that is a lie that's a
00:54:25.920lot i know that's a lot those guys meant it bald face line it's a total lie and all these people that
00:54:33.200that that mark levin and and all of the minions who are running cover for a foreign government
00:54:38.560they're all telling that same lie and i just i feel for president trump and i think i don't know
00:54:45.040this i'm just guessing but at this point i feel like he just has to kind of roll with it you know
00:54:48.960what do you say you can't you don't want to get an argument about that right in the middle of a war
00:54:52.400i think he reiterated last night that we got to get back to the peace part they got laid down
00:54:55.920but they're lying about him he sincerely even now he sincerely believes whether he's right or
00:55:02.480or not i can't say but that this could be a predicate to a peace deal what we're seeing now
00:55:08.400he really thinks that and wants that and and the other side is just like no we a peace deal was the
00:55:14.160it's the other side but the other side also has the apparatus here this is what happened in the u.s
00:55:19.600when ukraine attacked when ukraine attacked we still haven't asked ratcliffe was the cia involved
00:55:25.040that there's zero probability ukraine could attack that deep into russia without without some
00:55:30.000involvement here the exact same thing why was tulsi gabbard not invited to the camp david meeting all
00:55:35.280day you know why why tulsi gabbard still to the american public is is has said the last public statement
00:55:41.840is that the the program was not back up and running and now we have from from bb by himself on fox by
00:55:48.800brent bear that the thing was 12 to 13 months away it wasn't this weekend i know and this is by his
00:55:54.800own thing and we also know that it was a decapitation as we said on friday it wasn't just about the
00:55:59.120nuclear program it's a decapitation of total leadership so this is a total regime change
00:56:03.520which by the way you may have a plan for regime change is fine but you got to bring the american
00:56:07.840people on let me go back by the way i said that publicly last week this is the point of this is
00:56:12.480regime change i know everyone involved i know i'm telling the truth i have no weird motive here at
00:56:17.440all i don't hate israel i'm not plus you know the players and you know the iraq situation this isn't
00:56:24.080a regime change effort and why not just say that and but oh you're a holocaust denier for saying that
00:56:30.400stop let's have a rational conversation about what our aims are here and maybe you can convince me that
00:56:37.440we need to support a regime change war in iran tell me how that plays out in a country of 90 million
00:56:42.480people have you thought it through do you even care and the answer is no we have a economic and
00:56:48.080political and demographic crisis in europe because of us-backed israel-backed syria wars yes in the
00:56:56.240middle east that's what's destroyed europe where my ancestors came from and i spent a lot of time there
00:57:00.800and i love european culture which is christian culture and it's destroyed that and you know shut
00:57:05.440up you're not allowed to care who's making the rules here you know i i don't hate anyone i don't see
00:57:11.280conflict with anyone at all i have no weird biases all my biases are out in the open and um
00:57:17.840but i i i really resent being told who my enemy especially with foreigners some foreigner shows up
00:57:22.880and tells you who your enemies are really i've been here a long time i live across from my parents
00:57:28.880graves you can't tell me who america's enemies are at least i have a right to weigh in on that also
00:57:34.240oh shut up says mark dubowitz or something it's like are you are you even from here what do you even
00:57:38.880who are you anyway this is so bonkers i don't hate mark dubowitz i don't hate his agenda what
00:57:46.560i hate i disagree with his agenda i'm not mad at him i'm not mad at any of these people fundamentally
00:57:52.480but what i seek is an honest open transparent conversation about what we're doing and why
00:57:58.560and i don't think that's too much to ask for considering it's my tax dollars and my money that
00:58:02.400you're seeking to use to achieve it if that's radical then you know we've distorted the terms
00:58:07.920beyond recognition if you look at the debt nine trillion dollars associated with iraq and afghanistan
00:58:12.880i want to go back to iraq we played on friday we did the whole opening thing of the bombing everything
00:58:17.040going everywhere on tv beating their chest because at that time it looked like israel was telling hey
00:58:21.600this thing's over now people jumping in and we finished with shock and awe from march 19th of 2003 and i
00:58:28.320said hey look if you go back in that time they were all beating their chest then in the march up
00:58:32.720country to baghdad and they couldn't be better remember they're throwing roses on the ground
00:58:36.640all that and it was 20 years later a complete fiasco because it's always the law unintended
00:58:41.760consequences that's what we face here this thing has not been thought through right it does not have
00:58:46.720the commitment of the american we have to bring the american people the american people are not there
00:58:50.080to get into another war right now and why is the congress not actively debating this there's one
00:58:55.040person marjorie taylor green is like the only oh and now levin says this morning she's not maga
00:59:03.120okay all right now now we're really in the last scene of animal farm no she's just she's just some
00:59:09.200tiny congressman from rural georgia some liberal from suburban atlanta i mean it's also mind-bending
00:59:16.000and i have to say you know the the level of unanimity the sort of instantaneous response from 535
00:59:23.440members of congress that we're going to do this one thing no debate anyone who says otherwise is
00:59:27.680evil it does make you wonder like what is this system are you an appeaser you've been called now
00:59:33.520an appeaser and a pacifist right why why have they thrown what about what have you said what have you
00:59:44.400said here in the last 72 hours as a factual matter that would make you an appeaser i'm an american above
00:59:50.800all i am not a genius i'm not a prophet i've been wrong many many times um and i it's possible i'm
00:59:58.480wrong now but my motives are transparent i love this country i have nowhere else to go i don't i will
01:00:05.760not go anywhere else and i just want what's best for it we can debate what's best for it but to tell me
01:00:11.440that i'm working for a foreign nation is like by people who are literally working for foreign nations
01:00:16.560it's like so nuts i will say this um our political system is paralyzed in the face of this completely
01:00:22.480it's not doing what it was designed to do which is channel the views of the people through the
01:00:27.280apparatus of government it's not doing that at all it's short-circuiting uh and ignoring their opinions
01:00:32.960and you have to kind of wonder why and i don't fully understand it i know that our system is not
01:00:38.160working and i don't think there's any country on the planet looking at us saying oh i want that system
01:00:43.040oh wow that version of democracy i think if you look at trump is that trade deals to bring jobs
01:00:48.240back seal the border and deport the illegal aliens and no more forever wars as the basic planks in
01:00:53.520november of last year that won yeah i want to speak about it it is at least working at that level that
01:00:59.360the message can get out and we have a new coalition we have african-american men hispanics families
01:01:05.120star county texas the most hispanic county in the country 97 hard-bitten blue-collar hispanic
01:01:11.760citizens we lose but hillary by 60 points trump wins in november by 16 points it's coming our way
01:01:18.720in this new coalition including even the summit and i get limited appetite from even the tech bros
01:01:23.600and that crowd it's a new coalition like 1932 right where fdr had professors at harvard and cracker
01:01:29.680democrats down down south and ranchers out west and and people in inner cities and irish and italians
01:01:35.200and all that a new coalition that could govern for 50 years one one one one but it's something that
01:01:40.640could govern for 50 years that's out now we're into the governing of it where those are the
01:01:45.280priorities and particularly president trump has now tripled down with the ice raids and saying hey
01:01:50.320these sanctuary cities are going to go we're going to get these people out of here that to me is the
01:01:54.720top battle in this third world war that we've had 10 million illegal aliens just on biden's watch
01:02:00.160is it not able to be able to win elections but not able to govern is that the issue you know i really
01:02:06.800don't know i i there's something really wrong um there are certain red lines that you can't cross
01:02:13.520and and they're almost all foreign policy related i do think that you know the people pushing hardest
01:02:19.440for american involvement in a war with iran really hate trump's domestic agenda mark levin was a never
01:02:24.640trumper in 2016 of course um they all do the bill crystals they all hate what trump is trying to do
01:02:30.400in the united states which is populist economics they hate it they hate it that's exactly right um
01:02:35.440look we'll see this in the tax bill for trump with trump i i gave up this sounds so whiny but
01:02:41.120like grouse season which is my favorite time of year in october and left my dogs at home suffering
01:02:46.320like where are you and uh went on the road with trump and i loved it and i was with him i was
01:02:50.000standing right next to him when he won i have a picture on my phone of that which i would never
01:02:53.200show anybody else but i look at it because it was one of my happiest moments it was the happiest moment
01:02:57.200in politics and i've seen a lot that i've ever uh participated in and look of course governing's really hard
01:03:02.800and you're never going to do everything you promised you would do but on the big things
01:03:06.800it's really important that they not get totally subverted because it makes people lose faith in
01:03:11.680the system and i do but the system's run this is the deep state part of it what is this we we barely
01:03:16.640have a grip we have two good guys cash patel's like a brother to me and dan bungee you know great guy
01:03:22.080we have two people at fbi we barely have a grip there we have a handful of people justice we barely have
01:03:27.040a grip there we have two people at ellis and in ratcliffe at cia right we have a handful of people
01:03:33.200with with tulsi on the security we have christy and and corey and a couple other people you know the
01:03:39.520homan at dhs but dhs is still getting people out here the old-fashioned way that's where they're
01:03:44.400burning through cash in these central apparatuses of the deep state we barely have a grip on it and
01:03:50.800they're running the deal kennedy files out sixty two years later and by the way somebody murdered
01:03:57.360the president of the united states and lied about it for sixty years okay and we still can't get
01:04:02.800those files that we there are thousands of documents that have not been released as of today and
01:04:08.800everyone seems to all of it related all of it related to somehow cia activity or cia suppressing
01:04:13.840information was not just cia okay so um until look we're living in a post-coup country the coup
01:04:23.360everything that happened after the post-1963 every elected official certainly every official elected
01:04:28.960at the national level lives with that hanging over him they took out this guy and whoever did it is so
01:04:35.360powerful that we can't even know today when john mccone is 50 years in the grave had cia then everyone's gone
01:04:42.640and we still can't find out exactly what happened today sources and methods they don't even say
01:04:48.320that anymore they don't say anything they're just like oh we really still no you didn't you lie you
01:04:52.080lie i know i'm from here i you know i i know so i do think there's a sense in which some of our
01:04:59.920leaders feel the presence of a physical threat i don't think that i know it so well to wit trump is
01:05:05.840two assassination attempts well at least two and you can't have not from iran two that were not from
01:05:11.920iran and for for bb to say he's got two it's that's it's too much i mean i do think that netanyahu could
01:05:18.640make his case by telling the truth i don't think there's any reason to lie again that's a lie he
01:05:25.920knows that iran and then he brett bear pressed him he's like oh it's your proxies anyway but the point
01:05:30.320is the point is you know as a high school debater i know how this works that was a pivot but the point
01:05:36.000is over here it's three card money it's the gypsies you know um okay no iran did not try to assassinate
01:05:43.280the president during the last election and by the way if iran did try to assassinate trump and we know
01:05:48.640that then why are we not at war with iran what are you saying bb are you saying that the president
01:05:54.000the united states is such a cuck that a foreign country can try and murder him and he won't do
01:05:57.760anything about it is that what you're saying i mean if if the administration believed iran was behind
01:06:02.880two assassination attempts against donald trump trust me we'd nuke the country you can't do you
01:06:08.480know to murder an american president so we that's not true and everyone knows it's not true but what
01:06:13.760is true is that the american president was murdered and we're still not allowed to know who did it and
01:06:20.320why and i just think until that is cleared and i've never been a kennedy obsessive or whatever
01:06:25.760not interested in the kennedys especially i'm not i'm not irish but as a matter of like governance
01:06:33.040how can you have a president or a senator who truly does his best to uphold the core idea of a democratic
01:06:41.600republic which is like the people's opinions matter you can't have that because he's worried about getting
01:06:48.080killed that's just true and nobody says that i don't know why don't they say that
01:06:54.720if this were happening in liberia you'd be like it's not a real government
01:06:58.400because whenever the president tries you know strays outside the pre-prescribed boundaries he gets
01:07:04.240murdered or worries about getting murdered pretty much the same thing you would not describe that
01:07:09.120as a functioning democracy and yet we just pretend that this is not happening but it is happening
01:07:15.040and boy do you see it on foreign policy it's the only issue they care about you really think
01:07:19.360that and that mark levin like cares how many somalis are in minnesota no not at all the more the better
01:07:26.640all he cares about is the projection of force using american service personnel to fight faraway wars that
01:07:33.280have no material benefit in fact have massive downside for the united states that's his whole orientation but
01:07:38.800why is that the platform of fox though it's just not mark so but why is fox like all weekend it's
01:07:44.960just cheerleading it's the same it's exactly you can play side-by-side iraq in 2003 oh i was there
01:07:50.240and here and and what's happening today why is it that why is this apparatus well levin's the funniest
01:07:56.160because he's terrible on tv um and again i never had any problems with him at fox he kind of controls
01:08:03.360hannity in this weird way i never understood what that was about um i never really cared to learn
01:08:08.480sean was great to me always nice and so was levin so i just like kind of stayed away
01:08:13.200but they didn't want to put him on tv because he's like screechy and he's just not a coming
01:08:17.840president like unless you're literally floating in and out of consciousness and the attendant has taken
01:08:24.800the remote to go have a cigarette you're gonna flip the channel when mike gets on tv it's like listening
01:08:29.760to your ex-wife scream about alimony payments it's like not appealing so they wouldn't put him on tv and
01:08:35.520then you know sean pushed and they gave him some kind of weekend show that nobody watched
01:08:39.440now i don't have a tv but someone was just who had who owns the tv was just telling me that he's
01:08:46.080like all over prime time so what is that that's not by popular acclaim that's not like their viewer
01:08:51.600surveys like you know we need a lot more mark levin less jesse waters more mark levin what they're
01:08:59.120doing is what they always do which is just turning up the propaganda hose to full blast and just trying
01:09:07.440to you know knock elderly fox viewers off their feet and make them submit this is this is where
01:09:12.880the this is where the population the voters are ahead of the political class in the media the american
01:09:17.200people do not want any more engagement in a foreign war they just they saw iraq they saw afghanistan
01:09:22.080were just out i think because they're racist i think is that what you're saying they're just bigots
01:09:28.160so so so why is why is fox continue to pound that because they really really mean it and you saw they
01:09:35.120really mean it i mean there is a kind of sincerity there that i respect it's i i don't know why they
01:09:39.440fired me but i think it um no one ever told me and i just want to say for the fifth time they could
01:09:44.880not have been nicer when they fired me um and they couldn't have been you know more friendly i talked to
01:09:50.160them recently to the owners recently because i still like them even though we disagree so i'm not
01:09:54.960whining about them as people but i think they canned me from fox or shut down my show because
01:10:00.800i criticized zelinski and zelinski's close to the owners of the company it's like well how did that
01:10:05.520happen why is zelinski i don't know i don't understand there's a lot i don't understand all i
01:10:11.440know is that it's not just fox news it's the american media generally it's it's government institutions
01:10:15.760it's this city it's the people i used to live next to on chambers road northwest in dc they are
01:10:22.160deadly serious on the subject of projection of force abroad that is the one they have no sense
01:10:27.760of hearing about at all they'll lecture you all day about the gays and the black people and you know
01:10:34.000in this house we believe in science they don't give a shit about science or black people or gays or
01:10:38.960transgender what they care about is the projection of force against their enemies
01:10:46.320on the other side of the globe that's why the pentagon has a trillion dollar budget when the
01:10:50.000country is protected by the atlantic and the pacific and what president trump's strategy is a hemispheric
01:10:54.800defense what then are the steps that you're recommending if the if the program is we must
01:11:00.080take down the deep state or at least make some effort at it what would be your recommendation
01:11:04.640you got to get cia under control and how would you do that by adding the number of political
01:11:09.600appointees you know i think cia has a you know it's a federal agency whose budget we don't know of
01:11:16.400course um and it's not just if the president and i say this in all seriousness a special government
01:11:23.520employee where you still had your podcast you still had your the tucker carlson network would you
01:11:28.240go assist the president like elon did with doge would you go assist him to say hey give me 120 days
01:11:34.240i will give you advice no the whole thing cia pentagon dia uh the dni all of it fbi doj just
01:11:44.000say hey look here's the battle map here's what we have to do or we're not going to have we don't
01:11:48.640really have a constitutional republic i mean i'm unable to organize a sock drawer so i don't think that
01:11:57.040i have the temperament i don't think i have the skills for that i'm doing do you have the insight to
01:12:01.200do that if he had other people come around it yeah i know i know i know a lot about it i think
01:12:06.400this has to happen and um i'm being very serious he'd be killed immediately of course i mean you
01:12:11.680think you would be a subject to assassination i don't know i think i i think that would be perilous
01:12:15.520i would do it i would do look i feel like what i'm doing now i love trump and i mean that i've never
01:12:20.080does trump frustrate you of course i mean you've you've certainly been through that but my dog's
01:12:26.720frustrating my kids frustrated i mean you get frustrated when you deal with people you love but i'm
01:12:30.880my core feeling about trump and i think it's obvious in the way i talk about him and i didn't
01:12:35.920i don't i don't need any more money i don't need anything from anybody if i don't like trump i just
01:12:39.680say so i actually really love trump i think he's a deeply humane kind person and i am saying this
01:12:46.800because i i'm really afraid that my country's going to be further weakened by this i think we're
01:12:52.880going to see the end of american empire obviously other nations would like to see that and this is a
01:12:57.600perfect way to scuttle the uss america on the shoals of iran but it's also going to end i believe
01:13:03.760trump's presidency and effectively end it and and so that's why i'm saying what do you mean by that
01:13:09.360that's that's coming from you that's you get look i knew bush i knew george w bush with you know family
01:13:14.720connections to bush i knew bush personally i still see bush sometimes and um you know of course he he hates
01:13:22.480me and he does because i criticized him on iraq and that war is the sum total from historical
01:13:30.160perspective of his administration but i knew him and he had all kinds of plans for the things that
01:13:34.800he wanted to do but one domestically domestically to improve the country right and you may agree or
01:13:39.760disagree but like in his mind he wasn't just about the invasion of iraq in march of oh no no he was
01:13:45.680going to redo social security he had all his all types of he was going to take care of the entitlements
01:13:50.640issue and he really thought it was going to work yep and you could laugh at that or whatever but
01:13:54.320the point is the second you get enmeshed in a real war not a fake let's go bomb the villagers and
01:14:00.480declare success though we don't even have a good track record like why are the houthis still there
01:14:05.920i mean there's a whole other question which is how prepared is the u.s military for a real conflict
01:14:10.960and the answer is totally unprepared scary unprepared i don't think people understand that
01:14:14.880but anyway the only reason i'm saying any of this is because i really really care
01:14:21.600and it's been what a disaster for me personally i mean it's like the last thing i wake up you know
01:14:27.680all these texts you know i can't believe you're so evil you hate this or that i just want to restate
01:14:33.440i don't hate anybody and to the extent i do hate people i try to repent of it i don't want to hate
01:14:38.560anybody i really don't i just don't want my country to be further weakened or destroyed
01:14:44.880by another one of these wars and boy if you can't connect the dots after 25 years of this
01:14:49.120shit you're either too dumb to participate in the conversation or you're like mark levin just
01:14:54.000a liar who doesn't care i know you gotta bounce we're gonna hang up this afternoon uh one question
01:14:59.680if you were able to see the president in the next couple days when he gets back what would be the two
01:15:03.920or three things you would tell him mr president this is my this is my heartfelt advice about where
01:15:09.680we are right now i can tell you because i think i try to speak exactly the same way you know me i
01:15:15.840speak exactly the same in private i use the f word more but in in general i say the same things and i
01:15:22.000would say to him like you're the only person who can bring peace um you should continue to try and do
01:15:31.440that it's difficult it takes a long time but your timetable is the only timetable that matters don't
01:15:36.080get bum rushed you don't need to fix this because there's political turmoil in bb's coalition right
01:15:42.080it's not relevant he's there he's a 30 approval is not your problem yeah just because some ultra
01:15:46.960orthodox party it doesn't want to be conscripted or whatever's going on in israel these are long time
01:15:51.200problems that that country has had um that's not relevant to our plans or to your plans as the
01:15:56.320leader of the free world okay a b if you get involved in a war that includes american troops
01:16:03.440and force if you're lobbying missiles from submarines into iran um or combat sorties you're doing combat
01:16:11.040sorties you're i actually say we're combatant now but i mean you could basically argue maybe not what
01:16:15.920the air just want to pretend we're not okay because um of course we are and but i want to pretend we're
01:16:22.080not because we're in the final stages of being able to pull back and pretty soon there's no pulling
01:16:27.600back you know we're still sending money to ukraine to fight vladimir putin like how did that happen
01:16:33.440it happened because nobody just stopped it nobody said hey zelinski you're not even elected you're a
01:16:38.880dictator off the stage run to switzerland you know get out of here the intelligence services are helping
01:16:44.080from wiesbaden to plan the 3 000 mile strike into their strategic assets the u.s intel services are also
01:16:50.080fully aware of the many assassinations and assassination attempts against opponents and
01:16:55.360critics of the ukrainian regime many including someone i know so um the u.s this is super dark
01:17:02.000man the more you know about it it's like the u the u.s the ic american intel community is aware
01:17:08.080that the ukrainian intel community is murdering people including americans like how can that even happen
01:17:16.320i so there's a lot but the last thing i'll say is the second i've seen it the second the killing
01:17:23.520starts the calculations change people become much less principled much less reasonable much
01:17:28.720less able to vengeance and annihilation and they can't see their own interests clearly and so don't
01:17:33.040don't go there and you think right now we're on the cusp of that i'm an optimistic man and i think that
01:17:40.320we could i think we could pull back and i i wish the president wasn't in canada i don't wish a trip to
01:17:45.680canada on anyone because i think it's a really dark country um i hope he gets home soon because
01:17:51.360you don't want any of that canadian to rub off on you while you're there uh but yeah i mean i think
01:17:56.960that this can be can be stopped but it's going to require a really tough step which is to say
01:18:02.720to our client state we love you we want to help you um we don't think you're acting in your own
01:18:08.000interests but you know we could debate that but we're not going to do is imperil american national
01:18:12.640security or the american economy or america itself on your behalf we're not going to do that because
01:18:17.360that's that's immoral for us to do that our population doesn't want it and we're saying this
01:18:22.080with love but no no as you would say to a child i mean you've got a bunch of kids you say no to them
01:18:27.360of course you do because you love them it's okay to do that and and you know their proxies in the
01:18:32.000united states and barry and that levin character will jump in you hate them don't hate them at all i like
01:18:38.320them this is crazy what's the end game here the end game of course is to topple the regime and just
01:18:43.280have this 90 million person civil war and further destroy europe and the world you know it's like
01:18:48.640we're not doing that again already been through this we're not doing that again and this is big
01:18:52.880boy stuff this is not gaza and i you know i never say anything about gaza because i really tried very
01:18:58.160offended by it they blew up a church in gaza with my money i'm a christian like no how about no i said one
01:19:04.000thing about that man i've never heard the end of it but i've tried to stay away from gaza but
01:19:08.000now we're talking about a huge country we're talking about southwest asia one of the biggest
01:19:11.520energy and an ancient civilization this is not also since you're not going to convince me that the
01:19:16.960iranians i don't like i'm not a shiite i'm not like on the side of the shiite clerics i'm a freaking
01:19:21.760episcopalian settle down however you're not going to convince me that the iranian people are my enemy
01:19:27.920again we're going down this here here's who you're required to hate it's it's orwell man you're not
01:19:32.640i'm a free man you're not telling me who i have to hate i'll decide who i'd like and don't like on the
01:19:37.280basis of my values and what i believe my interests are they spent you know five years telling me
01:19:41.920vladimir putin is your enemy no he's not i'm not mad at vladimir putin tell me why i should be
01:19:46.560i'm mad at you you know what i mean this is like whatever it's all so fake i'm not playing along
01:19:53.840and here you're going to be doing interviews to take this actually take it up a couple of notches
01:19:58.640i really just want to get away from this topic because it's one of those topics that intersects
01:20:03.680with a lot of other things so it's not like belgium is getting frisky with lichtenstein and
01:20:08.080like i have an opinion on that this is a country that's the you know the very center of the three
01:20:15.760biggest religions in the world that is uh you know a jewish state so whatever that means exactly and so
01:20:24.320it has an emotional resonance for jewish people in america some of whom are my close friends that is
01:20:30.640different from any other country it's not like you know when things happen in sweden or the uk
01:20:34.960where my ancestors are from people aren't quite as emotional it's very emotional so i don't want
01:20:38.800anything to do with it at all i don't want to criticize bb i don't want to talk about gaza i
01:20:44.480don't want look i feel completely backed into a corner here where it's like we are on the cusp of
01:20:51.600entering a war on behalf of a political leader in a faraway country that's going to really hurt my
01:20:58.560country i've got four kids i want to have grandkids like are you even joking stop and i tried to be
01:21:04.080like quiet about it i don't i don't want to get involved in any of this because again people are
01:21:08.240so emotional how could you i mean you should see my text this morning i got threatened by someone this
01:21:12.000morning actually who i like threatened as by a friend a colleague or somebody that just came and
01:21:17.600said it's too much it's very careless what you said it's very careless careless i was like hey
01:21:26.720asshole i know what you're saying i got it very careless anyway whatever i don't want to get i'm
01:21:30.720not whining i'm not aoc oh i'm under such threat i'm not under threat i'm but what i'm saying is
01:21:36.960i don't want to be involved in this at all and i think most americans don't and it's only because
01:21:43.200we're actually getting drawn into a war a tiny and by a tiny minority of people like i know a million
01:21:48.480people who are pro-israel and jewish or pro-israel and not jewish like me i've always been pro-israel
01:21:54.560who were like i don't think this is good it doesn't like why do we allow three percent of
01:22:01.280the participant or the participants in this conversation to like define the terms you know
01:22:05.920if you are okay with any and right you know iranian enrichment at all you're for the ayatollahs and
01:22:12.880you're against israel what shut up no i'm not going to allow you to define the terms you're a total liar
01:22:22.560liar i mean these are liars like for real will say anything i'm working for qatar trump was actually
01:22:29.520pretending to go through a peace process and no that thing was terrible and steve whitkoff who's
01:22:34.240like who i know very well who's one of the most pure-hearted people whether you agree with them or
01:22:38.560not if you're calling into question steve whitkoff's motives like whitkoff doesn't need any of this he's
01:22:44.480just doing it because he wants to help that's it that's the only he's paying for himself and if
01:22:48.720you're telling me that steve whitkoff is working for qatar that's what set me over the edge because
01:22:53.360i know whitkoff well and i really love steve whitkoff and i think he's i agree with him on
01:22:57.520everything but i think he's like a decent man who wants what's best for donald trump his best friend
01:23:02.800and the united states and that's enough for me like i see his motive as pure it is pure i know him well
01:23:08.000and when they're calling him an anti-semite it's like so nuts that's when i was like oh i can't
01:23:15.440believe i have to get involved in this but because it's too much it's just too much you can't let that
01:23:20.080go unresponded to you have to stand up and say i'm sorry that's just not true that's a lie and you know
01:23:23.920it's a lie but you're not going to back down from this you're gonna you're gonna i want to back down
01:23:27.760immediately i just want to get away from this i want to go back you know i'm missing a lot of my favorite
01:23:32.720things and a lot of my favorite people i don't want to argue about israel of all subjects oh my gosh
01:23:38.160and i don't want to become i'm not going to become a crazy person or a hater part of the
01:23:43.440dynamic here is you become the things they accuse you of being like i've seen this happen to many
01:23:49.760people not many but i have seen it happen where they say you love putin you said that to me for
01:23:55.760years now and then one day you're like fuck it i love putin okay i just i mean i actually i kind of
01:24:02.480i think putin's an amazing leader i'm not i've always thought that but i'm not like a close
01:24:07.760friend of putin's they can drive you to become a worse version of yourself by accusing you of
01:24:13.200being it you sort of grow into the attack and there's no chance i'm not that happened to myself
01:24:18.000there's just no chance i'm not going to become a hater not become obsessed with israel i just want
01:24:21.840to get away from the topic a lot of other things going on just stop trying to drag my country into
01:24:26.640war that's it tucker carlson thank you so much for coming by good to see you i'm just in the
01:24:33.040neighborhood drop by tucker and i will be hanging out this afternoon i guess uh i can't wait i'm
01:24:38.160gonna ask you lots of hard questions lots of hard questions hopefully i'll have some answers let's
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01:24:45.840tucker thank you for coming thank you oh my gosh i love it we'll see you this afternoon thank you
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