Bannon's War Room - July 07, 2025


Episode 4612： Flooding Continues In Texas; Epstein Did Kill Himself...

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trade deals floodings tax debt solutions
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Steve Bannon
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Jeffrey Epstein Tom Fenton Trump Ben Bergquam John Solomon Kennedy Philip Patrick Dan Bongino Pam Bondi Kash Patel Elliot Ness Mark Caputo Oswald Steve Biden Stephen K. Vann Alex Eisenstadt John Ratcliffe Jesus Christ Mike Allen and 16 more
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In this episode, Steve and Mika discuss the devastating flooding in Texas, the impact on the recovery efforts and the ongoing search for the missing. They also discuss President Trump's latest trade deal announcement and the impact it could have on the economy.

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00:00:00.000 He's sending letters out on Monday having to do with the trade deals.
00:00:04.820 It could be 12, maybe 15.
00:00:07.340 You know, Secretary of Commerce right here.
00:00:10.300 And I guess Howard, I would say, it could be maybe as many as 15 or so.
00:00:15.700 And they'll be going out on Monday, and some will go out on Tuesday and Wednesday.
00:00:20.460 And we've made deals also.
00:00:23.120 So we're going to have a combination of letters, and some deals have been made.
00:00:27.000 I think it's ridiculous to start a third party.
00:00:33.160 We have a tremendous success with the Republican Party.
00:00:37.880 The Democrats have lost their way, but it's always been a two-party system.
00:00:42.360 And I think starting a third party just adds to confusion.
00:00:45.740 It really seems to have been developed for two parties.
00:00:48.360 Third parties have never worked. 0.95
00:00:50.240 So he can have fun with it, but I think it's ridiculous.
00:00:53.180 Yeah, we are going to have several announcements in the next 48 hours.
00:00:58.360 And, Joe, I think what President Trump is concerned about is the quality of the deals, not the quantity.
00:01:05.100 As you could imagine, as he started herding the cats and trying to get everyone across the finish line,
00:01:12.700 when he said that there's a chance that countries could boomerang back to their April 2nd reciprocal tariff levels,
00:01:22.800 we've had a lot of people change their tune in terms of negotiations.
00:01:25.980 So my mailbox was full last night with a lot of new offers, a lot of new proposals.
00:01:36.060 So it's going to be a busy couple of days.
00:01:39.820 But importantly, too, that President Trump has said that the countries would not go back to the reciprocal rate until August 1st.
00:01:48.900 The fatal Texas flooding demands search for answers along with the missing.
00:01:54.080 The board writes, in part, quote,
00:01:56.320 Was there anything that could have indeed should have been done to move people away from the raging water and avert tragedy?
00:02:05.040 While hundreds of people continue to search for missing adults and children,
00:02:10.360 there's no reason other people can't or shouldn't be searching for answers.
00:02:15.740 We have the wherewithal to do both.
00:02:18.000 One of the differences between those two searches is that with the former, the people engaged in it are completely aligned in what they are seeking.
00:02:26.720 With the latter, we're not as assured that federal, state and regional leaders are eager to dig for information that might reveal truths they don't want to find,
00:02:36.380 or rather that they don't want the public to learn.
00:02:39.540 What matters is that the urgency with which we search for the missing is not allowed to wane after they are found.
00:02:47.500 It must be maintained and applied to the search for answers that those who survived and the memories of those who perished deserve.
00:02:56.360 And the Dallas Morning News editorial board has a piece entitled So Many What Ifs Haunt Guadalupe River Flood.
00:03:04.280 And it reads in part this.
00:03:05.520 Once this initial response has ended and recovery begins, state and local officials need to wrestle with improved warning systems.
00:03:14.040 We need to understand whether improved staffing or technology at either the National Weather Service or the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration could give more accurate advance warning.
00:03:27.560 Local officials, meanwhile, must review their own practices and policies.
00:03:32.420 Should they have acted to require people to move away from the Guadalupe River as the rain began to fall?
00:03:40.380 Should people be permitted to live in camps so close to the riverbanks?
00:03:45.080 Those are haunting questions now of what if we could have done a thousand things differently and perhaps spared our state this terrible tragedy?
00:03:54.220 We need to understand those things and do whatever can be done to ensure that this doesn't happen again.
00:04:02.420 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:04:09.380 Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
00:04:14.520 Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:04:18.820 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:04:20.720 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:04:22.160 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:04:24.840 It's going to happen.
00:04:25.900 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:04:29.520 MAGA Media.
00:04:30.860 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:04:36.300 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:04:40.060 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:04:46.360 War Room.
00:04:46.920 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:04:49.340 Bannon.
00:04:55.340 It's Monday, 7 July, Year of Our Lord 2025.
00:04:59.060 A weekend, folks, like none other, with so many, so many massive stories and narratives breaking and so many things around the world.
00:05:07.140 We're going to get to them all today in the morning and afternoon show.
00:05:10.940 It's going to take us four hours to do this, so we'll strap in.
00:05:14.080 But for Mika, yes, we're on the search for answers, and we were the first ones to bring up, hey, you've got to get to the bottom of how this happened logistically, what happened with safety, security, all that.
00:05:28.040 You've got these incredibly brave search and rescue teams.
00:05:32.440 One guy has already saved 165 people.
00:05:34.560 They are fully engaged.
00:05:35.360 We talked to some of the people providing logistical support the other day.
00:05:41.120 Ben Berkwam's on the banks of the Guadalupe.
00:05:44.320 Ben, and you're going to go to the press conference.
00:05:46.020 We're going to cover as we've done all weekend.
00:05:47.720 I really want to thank Real America's Voice, Grace, Mo, everybody, Associated, Elizabeth, Jane, everybody that worked on this from our side all weekend.
00:05:59.640 In one of the search for truth, Mika, I hope you keep an open mind because we've got to start with a basic question.
00:06:07.680 Remember, we're not conspiracy theory guys here.
00:06:10.320 We're not.
00:06:11.420 But there are no coincidences.
00:06:12.680 We have to get to a fundamental and basic – we have to answer a basic question for the American people.
00:06:19.360 Was this an act of God or is this somehow an act of man?
00:06:23.960 And I – if people's heads are going to blow up, there they go at the boardroom.
00:06:27.560 Hey, we've been pretty damn good.
00:06:28.840 Go back and suck on the pandemic when we nailed it on the first day, I think back in January, the January – 20, January, 21, 22 of 2020 when we said exactly what the pandemic was and where it came from.
00:06:42.240 Ben Berkwam – and look at that footage. 0.86
00:06:44.240 Unbelievable.
00:06:44.780 Ben Berkwam on the banks of the Guadalupe.
00:06:47.340 Give us an update.
00:06:48.300 You're going to be there live.
00:06:49.060 You're going to take off immediately and go for – and go to the press conference.
00:06:53.360 Where do we stand this morning, sir, on kind of a Black Monday?
00:06:59.500 Yeah.
00:07:00.400 Thanks, Steve.
00:07:01.140 I just wrapped up an interview with Senator Ted Cruz.
00:07:04.280 Latest numbers from the senator, and he's obviously got up to date, 82 dead, 24 – excuse me, 28 children, and 10 of those children from Camp Mystic still missing.
00:07:16.760 That's, you know, as of about 25 minutes ago.
00:07:19.720 We'll be at the press conference in just under an hour, and I'm sure we'll be getting an update on that.
00:07:25.800 It's just – it's beyond a tragedy.
00:07:28.080 Steve, you know this as a dad of a daughter.
00:07:31.680 I'm a dad of three daughters.
00:07:33.340 I just – I cannot comprehend the pain that so many of the families are experiencing and the children who lost their parents.
00:07:40.980 You know, the majority of the lives that have been lost are adults, so that means children are no longer going to have their parents with them.
00:07:47.180 So this is not an event that's going to have ripple impacts for days or weeks or months.
00:07:52.520 It's going to be years.
00:07:54.120 And to your point, you know, watching the mainstream media turn this into a circus about President Trump and trying to connect it to Doge, ignoring – basically scoring political points on the lives of children, ignoring some of the obvious questions.
00:08:09.960 And, like, to your point on the, you know, not being conspiracy theorists, we've had rain manipulation, weather manipulation going on in America for years.
00:08:18.380 And, you know, for farmers particularly, you've got dry areas.
00:08:22.000 This actually – the river was completely dry last year because of droughts.
00:08:26.420 And so they've been – there's a company called Rainmaker that flies over.
00:08:29.400 They seed the clouds, and you get more rain.
00:08:31.340 Well, there's a legitimate question.
00:08:34.420 Did that have any impact?
00:08:36.240 Did it increase the amount of water from that tropical storm that came up?
00:08:39.980 I don't know.
00:08:40.840 I don't have an answer to that.
00:08:42.260 Those questions need to be asked.
00:08:43.820 They're legitimate.
00:08:44.440 They need to be asked in the future.
00:08:45.740 Should we have an early warning system like we have with tornadoes where sirens go off and somebody goes down to those camps and says, even at 3 in the morning when they're still sleeping, get the hell out of here?
00:08:55.840 I think that's an absolutely legitimate question.
00:08:59.620 But to spend all your efforts and trying to play gotcha while we're still searching for 10 missing young girls and potentially dozens of additional adults, the unknown missing is unknown right now.
00:09:12.100 And so it's – you know, that's the focus.
00:09:14.560 And what we should be prioritizing is that, thanking the law enforcement and first responders for doing their jobs.
00:09:20.700 These guys are absolute heroes.
00:09:22.600 And then we can deal with the rest of that afterwards.
00:09:25.840 Okay, this gets to a different point that – and we're going to talk a lot of economics today.
00:09:31.380 We've got – it's a jam show.
00:09:34.780 But – and look, the geoengineering and the chemtrails, that's not my line of country.
00:09:42.340 And the audience, I think, knows.
00:09:43.300 They know where we cover, what we feel comfortable and we understand.
00:09:46.900 We have, I think, better knowledge or understanding of certain situations and we can help people, you know, get access to that knowledge.
00:09:53.480 There's some things – and not that I haven't been pitched and spent time with the geoengineering people or the anti-geoengineering people, I should say, and the chemtrails people.
00:10:01.680 But you see a situation like this, it's pretty obvious.
00:10:05.880 You've got to start – there's all kind of questions about the logistics and decisions made and warning and, you know, all this from, you know, 5 o'clock the previous afternoon.
00:10:15.140 They'll have a timeline and what happened.
00:10:16.800 There will be details that will be written and I'm sure court hearings and civil suits and all of it.
00:10:22.520 And that will all come out over time and who the heroes were and some people that flinched, right?
00:10:27.760 All that will come out.
00:10:28.780 But a very basic question that has to be answered, was this an act of God or was this an act of man or did a man have some role in the overall, right?
00:10:39.900 And of course they're going to politicize, but that's at a superficial level.
00:10:44.000 And you kind of see what Fox is doing right now to kind of get away from the question of is there something here that we should be really investigating?
00:10:52.580 The deep state, the biggest – how do I say this politely?
00:10:58.620 And you saw this last night from what Cash and these guys put out and Tom Fenton, who's the best, is going to be – is right up.
00:11:04.080 He was going to start the show, but we've got to start with Ben because of this tragedy.
00:11:07.480 And right there, look at the – that right there is the power of nature, right?
00:11:12.720 Now, who – was nature – was it just nature on its own or somehow some sort of a technology by the hand of man?
00:11:23.340 And this gets into every issue we're dealing with.
00:11:25.560 This gets back to artificial intelligence.
00:11:27.280 This gets back to the singularity, to quantum computing, regenerative robotics, artificial general intelligence.
00:11:34.300 We're a man – remember in the Gospel of Mark, right?
00:11:39.060 To blaspheme the Holy Spirit is the unforgivable sin, the mortal sin that Jesus Christ himself said, hey, I'm no good.
00:11:45.260 If you do that, don't come looking for me.
00:11:48.260 I can't help you because it's unforgivable.
00:11:51.700 We have to get into the deep state and find out exactly in this apparatus these people that have made themselves gods, right?
00:12:00.000 What are they doing?
00:12:01.300 And we have to understand it.
00:12:02.880 If we don't do this, we're not a constitutional republic.
00:12:06.700 This entire apparatus, the entire system of government is based upon an informed citizenry and the consent of the governed.
00:12:18.140 This is what July 4th – July 4th is not about backyard barbecues and magnificent fireworks and waving the American flag and doing what everybody does.
00:12:25.960 No, it's a commitment back to first principles, first principles of those individuals who put it all online and created a republic that's lasted longer than any other.
00:12:38.440 And this experiment continues on, and this experiment is only going to continue on if we ask the tough questions and do what's unreasonable sometimes and stand in the breach.
00:12:51.160 That's what makes the MAGA movement so different.
00:12:54.580 That's why they fear you so much.
00:12:56.600 You're just not going to sit there and be happy-talked.
00:12:58.560 We're not going to be happy-talked on these things.
00:13:00.960 And the answers will take us wherever the answers take us, and we'll deal with it at the time.
00:13:05.020 But we're certainly going to look into it to all of it.
00:13:10.320 Those little girls demand it. 1.00
00:13:12.700 They demand it.
00:13:14.540 We owe it to them like we owe it to everybody who came before us.
00:13:19.200 That's who we owe it to.
00:13:20.100 Our responsibility is to them, to no political party, to no political philosophy, to them.
00:13:28.500 They are just as much patriots as any patriots that died in service to their country.
00:13:34.560 Ben Burkholm, I know you've got a bolt.
00:13:36.580 Thank you very much for the update.
00:13:38.280 I'm still a little confused about the numbers, but at 11 o'clock, I'll pick your brain.
00:13:41.720 How does that sound? 0.99
00:13:42.920 Somehow the math still doesn't add up to me, but I'm just a simple, you know, dumb mick. 0.89
00:13:48.880 But eventually, I'll get the math right here.
00:13:51.500 Ben Burkholm, where can people follow you nonstop, sir, and get all your interviews?
00:13:56.220 Yeah, I've got a ton more coming out.
00:13:57.880 Footage we shot yesterday, more we're shooting today.
00:13:59.780 At Ben Burkholm, most important one, at Real America's Voice.
00:14:03.040 It's at Real AM Voice on X and at Real America's Voice on Instagram.
00:14:08.080 Getter, all the rest of it.
00:14:12.360 It's still raining out there in the hill country.
00:14:15.580 Incredible.
00:14:16.100 And North Carolina got hammered last night, all the way from Southern Pines and Pinehurst,
00:14:21.780 all the way up from Chapel Hill.
00:14:23.740 You see the footage.
00:14:24.620 Incredible.
00:14:25.760 Ben Burkholm, go with God.
00:14:26.960 We'll see you at 11 o'clock Eastern Daylight Time.
00:14:28.700 Start of the second hour.
00:14:30.760 Yes, sir.
00:14:31.420 Thank you.
00:14:31.780 My good friend and colleague, Tom Fenton, who I think has done the most work and the
00:14:38.000 serious work about trying to get to the bottom, at least do official channels.
00:14:42.680 There's other people that are doing great investigations, the entire Epstein situation.
00:14:46.300 And so on top of everything last night, another bombshell dropped by the FBI and DOJ.
00:14:51.860 Tom Fenton will be here to explain it all to you.
00:14:55.500 Short break.
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00:16:27.600 Speaking of transparency and records, we had another story in Axios that ran last night
00:16:32.580 from my colleague Alex Eisenstadt, where the Department of Justice has, in the Epstein case,
00:16:39.260 decided, we're not going to release all of the records related to that.
00:16:43.200 Oh, by the way, Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.
00:16:45.780 There is no client list.
00:16:47.440 And that's that.
00:16:48.380 I think if there's one thing we learned from the JFK case, it's probably a good idea in 0.98
00:16:53.080 these instances to over-disclose.
00:16:55.380 But the administration in this case has decided not to do that.
00:16:58.400 However, in the JFK case, they are.
00:17:00.960 And people who have been very critical of the CIA are saying, at least John Radcliffe, who's
00:17:06.280 the head of the CIA, and Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence, are making
00:17:10.440 this serious, taking this serious.
00:17:12.160 So the reporting from Axios is that the DOJ is saying there is no evidence that convicted
00:17:21.040 sex offender Jeffrey Epstein kept a list of high-profile clients.
00:17:25.560 And talk about the complication of that for the DOJ and for others.
00:17:35.360 There's been so much disinformation surrounding client lists, apparently, and all these other
00:17:41.780 things.
00:17:42.260 And it's something that the leaders in the FBI have obviously been trying to explain to the
00:17:49.900 MAGA base, who don't appear to want to hear this.
00:17:53.500 Well, they don't.
00:17:56.080 Cash Patel, the director of the FBI, and especially the deputy director, assistant director, Dan
00:18:02.220 Bongino, he used to be a podcaster and was one of the large proponents of the idea that
00:18:06.760 there's a Epstein list, this is a cover-up, this reaches to the highest level.
00:18:12.520 Then he winds up being the number two guy at the FBI.
00:18:17.200 And now he's like, oh, well, I've looked at the evidence.
00:18:19.040 All of that's not true.
00:18:20.400 So, of course, this branch is two ways.
00:18:22.060 Either Bongino has been corrupted by the very conspiracy that he claimed to exist, or the
00:18:28.040 conspiracy really didn't exist.
00:18:29.840 And it turns out that doing your job as a sworn law enforcement officer in a government
00:18:36.220 agency, that is, governing, is a lot harder than podcasting.
00:18:40.940 And at a certain point, the facts matter.
00:18:43.500 We don't have, obviously, all the access to all of the information, so we can't say.
00:18:47.680 Certainly, Jeffrey Epstein, who was a person of great interest and was incarcerated in a
00:18:53.100 federal lockup, having committed suicide when he was under suicide watch, is very suspicious.
00:18:59.600 However, the FBI has released what it says are the 10 hours of video footage showing no
00:19:04.700 one went into a cell.
00:19:05.700 So, from the evidence we have right now, it does look as if what DOJ is saying is the truth.
00:19:12.800 But once again, we don't have all the records.
00:19:15.200 And what we've seen in the JFK case is more transparency is probably better, not less.
00:19:19.760 Tom Fenton, because on top of everything else going into this weekend, I just don't even
00:19:28.920 understand the timing of this, although I think we can make, we can speculate, but I
00:19:37.500 want to go to you for facts.
00:19:38.700 You are really, I never thought I'd say this, Tom, but you were our Justice Department during
00:19:45.560 the Obama years, you were on Breitbart Radio with me all the time, almost every day, we
00:19:51.060 were putting lead stories up of what you guys were doing.
00:19:53.160 I made a film about you guys.
00:19:55.640 I made a film that actually starred you and your team, a district of corruption that I'm
00:19:59.820 very proud of, that really went to the heart of what you guys do.
00:20:03.920 Um, and, uh, and now, and people are, are so close to Pam and, uh, and, uh, and, uh, you
00:20:11.080 know, uh, cash was a, uh, was a co-host here.
00:20:14.680 Right.
00:20:15.160 And I made, I made the film about cash.
00:20:17.020 I made the film about Tom Fenton, district of corruption.
00:20:18.980 I made government gangsters off of the book, government gangsters.
00:20:22.060 Why did I make it off government gangsters?
00:20:24.200 Could just like Tom Fenton, who was like Elliot Ness, cash Patel was like Elliot Ness and he,
00:20:29.220 he named names and he had facts and he backed it up.
00:20:31.880 And guess what?
00:20:32.740 Nobody sued us, right?
00:20:33.960 Cause it was all facts.
00:20:35.620 And of course, Dan Bongino is one of the greats in our movement.
00:20:38.660 So Fenton, please explain to our audience what in the hell happened.
00:20:43.540 What is this thing that came out last night, sir?
00:20:47.400 I don't know.
00:20:48.120 I read the memo three or four times again this morning and, uh, it's, it's really, I don't
00:20:56.380 think even the Biden administration would have written anything like this.
00:20:59.440 I just don't think they could have thought they could get away with it.
00:21:03.600 And I've got to wonder what is going on at the leadership of the justice department and
00:21:08.580 the FBI, uh, to allow them to think that statements like as follows, this is, this is
00:21:15.580 a classic course we're suing for this stuff, right?
00:21:17.620 And so they say, um, the systemic, systematic review revealed no incriminating client list.
00:21:30.960 So there's a client list, but it's not incriminating.
00:21:35.260 So therefore you can't see it.
00:21:37.700 We, there was also no credible evidence that found that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals
00:21:46.260 as part of his actions.
00:21:47.460 Well, give us the incredible evidence.
00:21:49.560 Uh, we did not uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged
00:21:57.240 third parties.
00:21:59.140 So they uncovered evidence, but it wasn't enough to predicate an investigation against uncharged
00:22:05.420 third parties.
00:22:06.360 So you can, you can go line by line and kind of, you know, go through this analysis that
00:22:12.540 I'm going through.
00:22:13.240 So it may be unfair or overly critical, but in my view, unless you have the records to
00:22:18.420 back up the, the conclusions you've drawn in this, in a case such as this, uh, this isn't
00:22:24.320 worth much and it's disturbing.
00:22:26.320 It was leaked to Axios.
00:22:27.540 Second time there's been a leak to Axios, by the way, by this justice department and FBI.
00:22:32.480 Remember we sued for the Biden videotapes of his interview with her.
00:22:37.920 We were in court, literally in federal court.
00:22:40.660 They're stonewalling us.
00:22:43.240 And what do they do?
00:22:44.140 They give it to Axios.
00:22:47.100 Here, they give it to Axios.
00:22:48.900 And I mean, and this memo, by the way, it, it kind of drips with contempt for people like
00:22:54.540 you, Bannon, for judicial watch, for anyone asking questions, give us the documents.
00:22:59.080 Judicial watch.
00:22:59.960 No, listen, we, we, I'd love Mark Caputo.
00:23:03.400 We've had him on the show.
00:23:04.280 We're going to have him on the show again, because they leaked to him, the Kennedy, the 0.84
00:23:08.060 massive CIA leak and John Solomon, the best.
00:23:11.120 So you got, you got Fenton, you got Bannon, you got Solomon.
00:23:14.680 They got, so hang on.
00:23:16.120 So I have no problem with Mike Allen in Axios.
00:23:18.540 It is the consensus thinking of the apparatus.
00:23:22.160 Okay.
00:23:22.500 Also, some people at the White House are quite close to these people.
00:23:26.260 So this was a well thought through leak to a super prominent, particularly late at night,
00:23:31.440 more than drudge.
00:23:32.860 Everybody will read Axios on a Sunday night before you go.
00:23:35.200 This is a Bannon exclusive.
00:23:36.560 But I just want for the audience to be very specific.
00:23:40.680 Judicial watch and Tom Fenton are suing DOJ.
00:23:43.540 I think the FBI, what are you suing about?
00:23:45.800 Why is your suit so important to this?
00:23:48.740 And this is kind of a response to your suit, brother.
00:23:52.420 Well, we saw, we saw the, the kind of this cluster with the release of the documents to
00:23:57.580 the social media people, right?
00:24:01.360 Many of whom are friends of ours, but it's fine.
00:24:04.440 But then, then they said, well, there were materials that were withheld by the FBI.
00:24:09.320 So give us, give us all the Epstein records.
00:24:11.940 We want the death records.
00:24:12.900 We want the stuff about what the FBI withheld, talk to us about how that happened and give
00:24:19.020 us the records generally, genuinely, you know, quite broadly.
00:24:23.380 And instead, they have been, it's been radio silence.
00:24:26.680 It's been three months of no records.
00:24:29.340 We haven't even gotten the file.
00:24:30.880 They leaked to the social media influencers.
00:24:33.540 And in court the other day, I think I tweeted it out.
00:24:36.700 I think they used the phrase exceptional circumstances.
00:24:40.200 I guess the exceptional circumstances was they were writing a memo for Axios.
00:24:47.040 So the court hasn't been told any of this.
00:24:49.760 They've made the conclusion that we'll get no more documents, it looks like, or a good
00:24:54.620 number of documents will be withheld.
00:24:56.700 And what's good about the lawsuit is that everything that they're saying here, they're
00:25:01.660 going to have to justify in court in some, in no small measure.
00:25:05.860 What records are you withholding?
00:25:07.460 Oh, they're under seal.
00:25:09.580 Let's, let's talk about that.
00:25:11.260 Let's describe what type of records are under seal, what records can't be disclosed because
00:25:16.320 they're under seal, et cetera.
00:25:18.120 Whose privacy would be violated if records were released?
00:25:22.900 All the excuses they're making here, they're going to have to bolster in court.
00:25:27.460 And memo or no memo, our lawsuit is continuing.
00:25:31.180 What, no, but why have they not just very similar, by the way, you know, Pam Bondi, we covered
00:25:37.380 wall to wall.
00:25:38.060 I've known her for years.
00:25:38.900 I consider her a friend.
00:25:40.060 We're a huge supporter.
00:25:41.260 When, when Gates dropped out, she was kind of next man up, President Trump on her.
00:25:45.000 Fine.
00:25:45.680 Cash, it goes without saying, a co-host, almost like a brother to us.
00:25:49.380 Dan Bongino, one of the heroes of our movement.
00:25:51.340 And so this is not personal, but why has, just because this is not my line of country
00:25:57.440 also, why has DOJ not just done one basic thing and gone to the courts and say, and
00:26:03.400 say, we want to unseal all the records associated with Epstein.
00:26:08.500 So the American people can see it.
00:26:09.740 Why?
00:26:09.920 And then release those.
00:26:11.000 This is supposed to be about the most transparent administration ever.
00:26:14.820 Why has that not been, why has that not even happened?
00:26:17.660 Why are they fighting that?
00:26:18.820 Because they're not going to be perpetuating unfounded theories about Epstein and no further
00:26:27.420 disclosure will be appropriate or warranted.
00:26:29.420 That's what they're telling the American people.
00:26:32.220 All of the concerns you have about Epstein, they're all unfounded.
00:26:35.140 And how are they, why are they unfounded?
00:26:37.020 Because we reviewed the evidence we're not going to give to you and concluded that it's,
00:26:43.900 there's no there there.
00:26:45.480 And there may be no there there, but show it, show us the right.
00:26:48.820 And this just, again, shows contempt for the people's right to know.
00:26:53.980 I've said it once.
00:26:55.100 I've said it before.
00:26:56.480 The Justice Department and the FBI are irredeemably compromised and corrupted.
00:27:03.960 The leadership needs to understand that and act accordingly.
00:27:09.060 I mean, the FBI moving to another building, that's nice.
00:27:13.020 I tell you what, we've got three extra offices, maybe two extra offices at Judicial Watch.
00:27:17.520 We can lend them.
00:27:18.780 That's all they should need.
00:27:20.500 That's all they should have.
00:27:21.540 That's all they need.
00:27:22.680 That's all they need.
00:27:23.140 That's all they need.
00:27:23.240 That's all they need.
00:27:23.320 That's all they need.
00:27:23.340 That's all they need.
00:27:23.720 That's all they need.
00:27:24.040 That's all they need.
00:27:24.300 That's all they need.
00:27:24.620 And he's the only one there with a guy there to check his emails for them.
00:27:27.880 Amen.
00:27:28.940 Okay.
00:27:30.340 Hang on one second.
00:27:31.360 We're going to go to break.
00:27:31.960 Come right back.
00:27:32.580 Philip Patrick and Rio, but I've got to keep fitting.
00:27:34.860 It shouldn't be lost on anybody.
00:27:36.260 Why was Mark Caputo on Morning Joe and saying about another reporter's story on Epstein?
00:27:40.980 He was there for the Kennedy exclusive, which we now know the CIA has actively lied to you about their involvement with Oswald and everything related to the Kennedy investigation.
00:27:53.240 Can't you see the irony?
00:27:56.920 Actually, how many decades after President Kennedy assassinated?
00:28:02.160 Actually, let me change that.
00:28:04.060 Murdered in broad daylight and in cold blood in Dallas, Texas.
00:28:08.380 That the CIA has been lying about their involvement with Oswald before the fact.
00:28:16.580 Lied. 0.99
00:28:17.660 That breaks on axis.
00:28:18.780 John Solomon is going to be here with all other revelations about the CIA over the weekend with Brennan and at the same time hit you with the wet fish here.
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00:30:16.060 Every problem we have in the central war we have to win is against the deep state and the administrative state.
00:30:23.020 You look today, BB's coming over, Netanyahu's coming over.
00:30:26.140 Hey, it's not a big victory for the non-interventionists and the people who stopped, who had President Trump's back in closing down the 12-day war with the massive bombing run.
00:30:36.360 It's not any big public fanfare.
00:30:38.040 It's kind of, oh, he's going to come for dinner at 6.30, and they'll slip him in through the side door, right?
00:30:43.920 And I'm not even – let's not even make the connections yet because Tom Fitton is going to make it when he's getting back on the show of Epstein in certain intelligence services.
00:30:54.440 The deportations.
00:30:56.320 Everything we have – if we don't take down the deep state in the next three and a half years on Trump's watch, we're screwed.
00:31:02.860 With all the things we have to do – because you look at the kinetic part of the Third World War in Ukraine and the Middle East.
00:31:07.100 At the heart of it is the deep state driving this.
00:31:09.900 We have to take it apart.
00:31:10.920 The Kennedy revelation is a bombshell.
00:31:14.220 The CIA, which we've said for years, now they admit – they admit that Angleton and all of them looked you in the eye, went to Congress, went to – they were under subpoena.
00:31:27.240 Forget the Warren Commission.
00:31:28.620 That was a crime scene itself, the Warren Commission, between the FBI and the CIA.
00:31:34.080 The great institutions in this country that people depended upon looked you in the eye and lied to you because of their actions, the covering up of their actions.
00:31:42.680 This is why the devolution of the United States of America, you can take one day, 22 November 1963, boom.
00:31:54.480 At what, 2 p.m. Central Time?
00:31:58.580 Boom.
00:31:58.980 Tom Fenton, you're going to fight the good – what is your action plan on this one?
00:32:05.380 Because you've been on this like a dog on a bone, and Fenton does not let the bone go.
00:32:10.780 What is your action plan you're going to tell this audience?
00:32:12.940 Well, the lawsuit is going to continue for the Epstein records.
00:32:19.040 It's simple.
00:32:19.820 There's a federal FOIA lawsuit.
00:32:21.940 They've got to start producing records to Judicial Watch or explaining to the court what records specifically they're withholding and why.
00:32:31.160 You know, what was really incredible was we asked for records that Pam Bondi had about the Epstein matter, and they came back and said she had nothing.
00:32:39.840 I mean, she talked about having all these records on her desk, and then they come back and tell us they had nothing.
00:32:46.460 So this has got to proceed, and it kind of goes back to our earlier idea.
00:32:51.020 The president should recognize the Justice Department as an agency that thinks it's above the law and outside the constraints of the Constitution in terms of checks and balances.
00:33:00.280 Does it mean that Pam Bondi thinks that?
00:33:01.980 No.
00:33:02.660 But that's the culture of the Justice Department.
00:33:05.880 It's the culture in many ways of the FBI.
00:33:08.180 They don't even think they are run by the Justice Department.
00:33:11.360 It's just – I mean, it's independent agency on top of independent agency, which is an abomination under our republic.
00:33:18.220 And I think the president should just set up his own investigative unit, his own prosecutorial unit, his own special counsel as the chief magistrate and investigate everything that he thinks needs to be investigated.
00:33:34.540 And he needs to start calling the Justice Department in the meantime.
00:33:39.160 Why haven't you prosecuted Garland?
00:33:40.720 I'm directing you to prosecute Garland.
00:33:42.880 I'm directing you to prosecute Comey for trying to get me killed.
00:33:47.300 I am ordering you to do so.
00:33:49.580 If you don't, I will find someone who will prosecute him.
00:33:53.420 Or I'll do it myself.
00:33:59.920 The special prosecutor has to be appointed – on his Article 2 powers, has to be appointed by the president and has to report to the office of the president, not to Pam Bondi.
00:34:09.540 That's what we're demanding on the 2020 election.
00:34:12.700 But there's a whole raft of stuff that the Justice Department, FBI, can't go – because you have a couple of people over there hanging on by their fingertips, and we have to take these apparatuses down.
00:34:23.300 Who is implicated in –
00:34:24.500 Where do people get you on social media?
00:34:26.780 I mean Epstein was under the watch of the Justice Department when he died.
00:34:32.140 Why are they investigating it?
00:34:33.900 Or if they said they – by the way, if they came out and said there's no – the evidence, things of a – of a suicide, put the evidence out.
00:34:47.040 Let's see what Bill Barr and those guys did.
00:34:49.740 Let's show the receipts.
00:34:52.220 The Warren Posse wants the receipts.
00:34:54.020 They want receipts.
00:34:55.880 The evidence is the family had an alternative autopsy done that indicated murder and homicide, not suicide.
00:35:04.800 Did they analyze that autopsy?
00:35:08.980 Or Dr. – oh, is it Dr. Baden?
00:35:16.480 We want the records, and there's a process for releasing them, and they're not above the law, and they need to follow FOIA.
00:35:26.380 Tom, where do they go on social media and where do they go on Judicial Watch to find you, all your material information?
00:35:32.360 Judicial Watch.org, Twitter, Rumble, YouTube, GetTruth, you name it, we're all over.
00:35:41.280 We are the biggest movement in the conservative side of the aisle for transparency and accountability.
00:35:49.260 It's – we're not the sleeping giant.
00:35:52.120 You're an action center.
00:35:55.400 You're a giant. 0.99
00:35:56.000 You're a beast. 0.99
00:35:56.740 You're a beast, but you're taking action. 0.99
00:35:58.320 There's no theoretical. 0.98
00:35:59.360 He ain't doing white papers.
00:36:00.880 He's not having conferences to talk about things.
00:36:04.220 Fenton and that team are on it like they've been since the time I met him 10, 12 years ago during Obama's regime.
00:36:12.880 He was all over him every day filing something.
00:36:14.980 He was the people – we call it the People's Justice Department.
00:36:17.100 I guess you're back to that, bro.
00:36:20.640 I guess we're the people's – you're MAGA's Justice Department.
00:36:25.700 Unbelievable.
00:36:26.020 The world will change.
00:36:27.600 And President Trump, I think – and President Trump needs to hear this.
00:36:30.560 I hope you have a direct phone call with him today, Tom, because I know he really thinks so highly of you and your actions.
00:36:36.380 We've got to bounce, brother.
00:36:37.360 I'll talk to you after the show.
00:36:38.300 We'll figure this out.
00:36:39.600 All right.
00:36:39.880 Thank you.
00:36:40.080 We've got to – this has got to be a – like Article 3 we do at Davis, we've got to do a War Room Judicial Watch partnership here to drive this.
00:36:48.840 Tom Fenton, what a good man.
00:36:51.540 We're going to have more.
00:36:52.320 We've got Solomon coming up.
00:36:53.360 We're running a little behind clock.
00:36:54.640 We're going to get to it.
00:36:55.200 Of course, in all of this, the biggest thing over the weekend, maybe long term, was down in Brazil.
00:37:02.840 It got the president's attention as we had in the cold open, Philip Patrick.
00:37:06.760 He threw down hard when he kept hearing this de-dollarization chit-chat.
00:37:11.820 He said, hey, how about this?
00:37:13.720 Any of you guys sign up for this thing?
00:37:15.580 Any of you guys sign up for this thing?
00:37:17.400 Add another 10 percent on top of what I'm going to do to you anyway. 1.00
00:37:22.280 Your thought – tell me – give us an update of what actually happened and what triggered the president of the United States, sir.
00:37:28.040 Look, in terms of the trigger, I'm glad he's paying attention and he clearly is.
00:37:35.240 We saw the tweets come in, you know, in the morning our time here in Brazil.
00:37:40.600 It's interesting.
00:37:41.900 There's been, you know, at the conferences themselves, there's been very little talk of de-dollarization.
00:37:47.220 And I think ultimately that was a strategic move.
00:37:49.700 I think they want the least amount of damage possible and they wanted unsuccessfully, of course, to avoid drawing the attention of President Trump to prevent ultimately risks.
00:38:02.240 But what we're seeing is the conversations, the discussions have centered on bilateral trade deals, right?
00:38:08.200 We're seeing them happening around the city, quite frankly.
00:38:11.120 But what we're talking about is deals for direct trade between nations in local currency.
00:38:15.800 So although they're not using the term de-dollarization, it's exactly what it is.
00:38:21.620 The way that they're framing this thing, and I think it's smart from their perspective, is enhancing cooperation in critical minerals and technology, making supply chains more secure and resilient.
00:38:33.620 But, you know, the interesting part from my perspective is the BRICS are now trying to position themselves.
00:38:40.440 They sort of seize the opportunity to position themselves now as pro-trade and an anti-protectionist union, calling tariffs now a threat to global economic stability.
00:38:52.100 The upshot and the interesting part is the group, long presumed to be forging an alternative to our U.S.-led order, is now projecting itself as the defender of those same core values.
00:39:04.980 They're saying we aren't anti-American, we're just pro-trade, and that's really the argument from the BRICS at the moment.
00:39:15.740 So President Trump, in his redoing of the commercial relationships of the world with the United States as the premier market, once he gets to it, he says you've got two choices.
00:39:24.980 Either bring your – reshore your manufacturing or bring your manufacturing here to create jobs and opportunities, or you're going to pay a premium like you do at a soccer game to get a box or at a concert.
00:39:37.380 You're going to pay a premium to get through the golden door into the golden market for the golden age.
00:39:43.560 That has got them – that's – he's inside their brain on this, right?
00:39:48.580 He's inside their decision loop, so everything they do is framed in that, or how we don't bring the wrath of Trump down upon us?
00:39:56.080 You can see it, right?
00:39:57.400 Like I said, you can see it in how they're phrasing things.
00:40:00.120 And I think it's – ultimately, President Trump has two options, right?
00:40:04.340 One is the carrot, and the other is the stick.
00:40:06.480 The carrot's not looking that viable, right?
00:40:09.020 What a carrot means when it comes to currency is strength, value, liquidity, but it's going to be an uphill battle given the spending situation at home, given the debt position that President Trump inherited.
00:40:22.020 The other alternative is obviously sticks, right?
00:40:24.820 Trade embargoes, tariffs, sanctions, forcing countries to make a choice.
00:40:30.100 And like I said, I think it's the only option he has at the moment, and I think it's going to work on some countries, but not on others, right?
00:40:37.500 The UK, Japan, possibly India.
00:40:40.100 We can throw a spanner into the works for the BRICS, and we can force nations to choose longer term or shorter term, I should say. 0.95
00:40:48.060 Countries like Russia and China, that's a little bit more nuanced, right?
00:40:52.080 I think that the threats of tariffs can dissuade some nations shorter term and create bumps in the road for the BRICS.
00:40:59.240 But over the longer term, I think they're going to be problematic and ultimately could longer term work against us.
00:41:06.460 The one thing we've learned coming out here is that countries have long memories, right?
00:41:10.600 The BRICS are trying to frame this summit as a response to Trump's Liberation Day tariffs, but it's so much more than that, right?
00:41:17.820 This is a response to decades of history, the 2022 freezing of Russia's dollar assets, the 2014 sanctions over the Crimea invasion were mentioned to us,
00:41:28.440 the 2008 financial crisis, and here in Brazil, as I mentioned last time, the 1980s debt crisis.
00:41:35.460 So, you know, it's going to be tough longer term.
00:41:39.860 This isn't a binary situation, right?
00:41:42.140 You know, as I've said and very clear, we're not looking at a situation where, you know, tomorrow dollars are worthless.
00:41:48.500 What we're looking at, I think, is a slow and steady chipping away of the dollar's global role.
00:41:55.140 Once necessary, today just another option and one that looks increasingly less attractive.
00:42:01.360 So, absent of this steady source of global demand, I think what we could see is the dollar's purchasing power wane longer term.
00:42:09.440 Look, this isn't a situation one administration created, and I'm not sure it's a situation one administration can fix either.
00:42:18.820 I think President Trump's doing everything right.
00:42:21.500 He's doing what he can do.
00:42:23.540 How it plays out, I think, to some degree is beyond our control at the moment.
00:42:28.020 And I want you to hang on.
00:42:32.100 I'm going to get John Solomon here, but I want you to hang on or go to break.
00:42:36.760 Is it your assessment?
00:42:38.240 Give me a 30-second answer on this, then we'll go to break.
00:42:41.040 I'll get more depth when we get back.
00:42:42.620 Is it your assessment right now that the central banks will continue to purchase gold at the rates they're purchasing as a hedge against the United States?
00:42:53.200 Yeah.
00:42:54.140 Quite honestly, I don't see it letting up.
00:42:57.020 And our trip here has confirmed that.
00:43:00.540 Like I said, the administration are making the right decisions with the tools that they have in front of us.
00:43:06.840 But I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
00:43:09.060 I think the train left the station.
00:43:10.820 So, yes, I think central bank gold buying will continue.
00:43:16.780 Philip, if you can hang on for one second.
00:43:18.760 By the way, I'm so proud, given everything that you've learned while you're down there at the Rio Reset, of how dead spot on we've been for only four years in writing the end of the dollar empire and the way we wrote it about debt and deficit and the debt ceiling and then Rio and the BRICS nations and what it all means.
00:43:36.280 And central banks buying at record rates, these finance ministers being, you know, everybody come out of Stanford Business School and Chicago Business School and Harvard Business School.
00:43:44.300 They have all the they have an HP 12C and they can do discounted cash flow.
00:43:47.900 Right.
00:43:48.380 They're smart as anybody working on Wall Street into the dollar empire.
00:43:53.260 That's birchgold.com slash Bannon.
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00:44:01.100 Philip Patrick and John Solomon next in the war.
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