Episode 4614： Lies Of Mass Amnesty
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Summary
Trump signs the big, beautiful bill on July 4th, but there's something else afoot in Washington, D.C. that needs to be addressed, and it's much bigger than just the tax cut and border security bill.
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What a weekend. President Donald Trump signed the big, beautiful bill on Independence Day on
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July 4th, signaling a massive legislative accomplishment. Tax cut, no tax on tips,
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no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security. Huge investment in border security. $175 billion
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for ICE. But you would think that, hey, we get $175 billion for ICE. We're going to get mass
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deportations. We're going to be able to have now the largest deportation effort ever. Yes,
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in theory. But in practice, there's something else afoot. Literally the day before President
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Donald Trump was signing the big, beautiful bill, I got a couple of phone calls from people that you
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would call members of the ruling class. A lot of money and a lot of connections. They said,
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Charlie, isn't this amazing? We passed the big, beautiful bill. I said, oh, yes, sir.
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And they said, now we need mass amnesty. What? I said, we haven't even signed the bill yet.
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They said, yeah, you know, these deportations, we're going to lose the midterms because of the
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deportations. The people on the right, they'll understand. And we need to come to the middle
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and we need to legalize the 25 million people here in this country. I was speechless.
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Because here I am actually thinking, a little naive, we're going to sign this big, beautiful
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bill. And we're actually going to get mass deportations uninterrupted from an asymmetrical
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attack. So we have somewhere between 20 to 15 million illegal aliens in this country. We
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don't actually know the numbers. These are all guesstimates. These are all just approximations.
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And there is a movement afoot as I am doing this broadcast. And this is bigger than anything
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with Epstein. This is bigger than anything with tax cuts. It is happening right now in
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Washington, D.C. And I can say this from firsthand experience, that people are pushing President
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Trump for amnesty. They are pushing him for mass legalization of illegals.
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Now, President Donald Trump, of course, would never push for amnesty. But President Donald
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Trump said something at a rally on July 3rd. And my phone lit up like you wouldn't imagine.
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President Donald Trump was talking about potentially doing a bipartisan compromise deal
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for illegals that have stolen Social Security numbers that are illegally domiciling themselves
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here in the country that are all felons. Every single one of them are felons. They're just
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not yet indicted felons. But if they're here illegally, you're a felon. It's against federal
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law. We've gone through all the different federal laws that you break by being here. And this is
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President Donald Trump speaking at the Iowa rally saying that we might need to do some form. He
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didn't use the word amnesty, but some form of soft amnesty. And I could tell you now through other
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reporting that I've been able to do and phone calls, there is a major push right now to do a
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bipartisan amnesty deal, a major push. People are trying to push the president. Hey, you got the money
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for ICE. Now we need to go move to the middle on immigration. Play cut 258. People have worked for
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a farm on a farm for 14, 15 years, and they get thrown out pretty viciously. And we can't do it.
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We got to work with the farmers and people that have hotels and leisure properties, too. We're going
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to work with them and we're going to work very strong and smart. And we're going to put you in
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charge. We're going to make you responsible. And I think that that's going to make a lot of people
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happy. Now, serious radical right people who I also happen to like a lot, they may not be quite
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as happy, but they'll understand, won't they? Do you think they'll understand that you're the one
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that brought this whole situation up? Brooke Rollins brought it up and she said, so we have a
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little problem. The farmers are losing a lot of people and we figured it out and we have some great
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stuff being written and let the farmers be responsible. Let the farmers be responsible. Look,
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I trust President Trump's instincts 100% here, but there is a group of people that are pushing
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President Trump very hard to stop the deportation effort and to try to have some sort of a come to
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the table moment of a bipartisan compromise. That we need to try to figure out how to make these
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people have a pathway to citizenship. Now, this is not by any means a knock on President Trump. It
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is a knock on people that are trying to pressure President Trump and pressure him hard.
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We don't know any of the details, but President Trump did say that the radical right people that
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he has a soft spot for wouldn't like this. Hello. Hi, I'm one of those radical right people.
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And I want to know what I'm not going to like because of all the different stuff that's in front of us.
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If you want to break our coalition, go and push amnesty. That right there would be
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a complete collapse of everything that we have worked for. Everything. So we don't know any details,
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but it looks as if President Trump might be in preliminary discussions. And I could tell you
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that there are many different discussions that I've had with people and they are pushing it hard
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to create some kind of amnesty proposal aimed specifically at farm laborers in the United States.
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But it's more than that. It could be hotels. It could be leisure properties. We've heard the
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arguments about this for years. Well, the crops are going to rot in the fields. There'll be starvation.
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But here's the main thing that you need to know. We've tried this before. This is not some sort of
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new thing. And by the way, just so we are clear, I went to an event this last weekend in San Diego.
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J.D. Vance was there and another person came up and said, Charlie, do you know what we need?
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We need to have some sort of pathway citizenship for 25 people. I said, are you guys on all some
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sort of group chat or something? Are you guys all just coordinating? We have not even 48 hours of
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the largest investment in border security deportation and ICE. And why are you pitching me
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on mass amnesty? What is that all about? There's a lot of reasons for this. And one of which is the
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corporate class is deathly afraid that they might actually have to hire Americans and pay a higher wage.
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somehow other countries are able to grow food without imported surf labor. How are they able
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to do that? I don't know. Apparently, we have built so many parts of our economy to be reliant
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on foreign criminal invaders that have come into this country. And some people, oh, we have to allow
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farmers transition. No, you deport them back to the country of Oregon. All of them. We did not run
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly
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full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop
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that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share
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the big line? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,
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It's Monday, 7 July, Europe for Lord 2025. You heard Charlie Kirk today on fire on his show on
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Real America's Voice and across the nation on radio, and he's got his podcast, all of it.
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Part of that's in response to, there's word out to how possibly did they do the Epstein announcement
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last night. And there is word out behind the scenes that, oh, that was a misdirection play
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to get everybody to bounce as they slip, as they try to force President Trump to do some
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mass amnesty. But guess what? MAGA can walk and chew gum at the same time. There's a lot
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of activity going on with the Epstein situation, exactly finding out exactly what's going on.
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Tom Fitton's on it. All these different groups are on it. And I think you'll see developments
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on that, hopefully in the next couple of days. But like I said, at the end of the show today,
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when we had Rosemary Jenks on, the only, they sold, look, on War Room, we're the first ones
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to go to Novara. And these guys say, hey, look, if you want to do this big, beautiful bill,
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it's a supply side tax cut. You got to put your own math together and add everything like
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President Trump today sending out everything on these tariffs, sending out letters on tariffs.
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Here's your tariff, 32% Croatia, Bosnia, this 25% South Korea, suck on this Japan, 25%. I mean,
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President Trump's dropping bombs. Add all that in there, particularly the jobs coming back,
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all of it, deregulation, full spectrum dominance, energy, boom, come up with the economic model,
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show how you get to 2.8 to 3.4% growth. I'm the guy that had to bring up, hello, remember,
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fourth quarter 2019, there's 3.4% growth. We can hit that again. And that's selling. However,
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part of the White House, and I see this, I understand it, we're selling, you know, don't
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want to talk about the deaths, don't want to talk about anything like that growth. They
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want to talk about the $170 billion, secure the border and deportations. Fine. We'll take
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that play too. But that's mass deportations. It's 7,000 a day. I think Tom Holman concurred
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7,000 a day. I think it's over three and a half, four years, nine, 10 million folks. That's
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kind of our number. Fine. In LA today, in MacArthur Park, kind of up-armored with, it looks
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like a riot patrol horses and people totally decked out, ICE and other assets going through
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this. It's MS-13. Hey, MS-13 is great. Get them all. They got to go. But mass deportations,
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the operant word there is mass. That means all people. As Charlie Kirk said, everyone
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here illegally has got to go home. There can't be any amnesty for anybody. Everybody here illegally
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has to go home. They have to go home. They have to get in line and come in legally. And
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guess what? On the legal side, we want to do away with some of that too. There's just too
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many. There's not enough. You have 12 million STEM graduates in this country that don't have
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jobs. Until every STEM person has a job, why would I let another foreigner in this country
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to take their job? Why low-skilled wages are increasing under President Trump because you're
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restricting people coming into the country. But until their wages are better, why will we
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still allow the illegal aliens to stay here? If you deport them, their wages are going to go
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up. And guess what? That's not going to be the end of the world. Wall Street will survive.
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It's low-skilled workers. It's not going to break you. I understand the billionaires that call you
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now don't have people to cut their grass and do their lawns and clean their pool and clean their
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house and be nannies to the kids because they don't pay any attention to the kids. How do I know that?
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I see them at these universities where they don't know anything except they hate America.
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I don't know. Maybe they hate America because their parents didn't raise them.
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I don't know. And quite frankly, I don't care. They all have to go. So if we have to have a fight
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now over and people around President Trump saying we got amnesty and he called up Brooke
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Rollins. Hey, I'm just saying what the man said. Hey, Brooke, thanks. You've been pushing this.
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Thank you for big act. Thank you very much. Gave a name check. Just saying.
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Again, we cannot have mass amnesty. We're just at the very beginning of this.
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This is different political. I'm not even I don't care about, oh, it break our coalition
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the momentum. Of course it would. But that's not even the point. The point is we have a country
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to save. And this shows you this lethal combination of too much wealth concentrated in too few people
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with too little judgment and too little actual love of this country and sacrifice for this country
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combined with a deep state apparatus that wants to keep control of an empire they've helped to build
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and that we quite frankly don't want. That's the fight before us. It's not any one piece of
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legislation. If it's got to be a fight, it's got to be a fight. If we got to do it now, we got to do it
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now. So let's we're here. That's what Charlie started today. We're going to smoke them all out.
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We're going to smoke out the mass amnesty folks and say, show me what you got.
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What do you have? What are we doing here? It's mass deportations. That's what got us here.
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That's what won 2024 with everything else, even the economy. The key part of it was to get wages up
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to stop the destruction of working class communities of people of color, African-American
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and Hispanic. That's health care system and school system and all of it is being shattered.
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Their communities as their wages are being driven down. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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We're not going to have mass amnesty. Cannot have it. And yes, we appreciate going through
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MacArthur Park and we appreciate the bad hombres. That's very important. Let's get out in the
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crime down. Heck, I'm hearing from, I lived in LA or around the beaches in LA for 20 some
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years. I'm here for all my former partners and guys I know very well that parts of East
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LA are like a ghost town. Was it Steinman's putting up on Twitter that the freeway has never
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been, had never been less crowded. So it's working. Now let's double and triple down.
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It's called mass deportations beyond the bad hombres. Now we're going to smoke out the
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amnesty crowd. We're going to, and you know what? I'm just taking a wild guess here. Just
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a wild guess. I'm being speculative, a little speculative here. Somehow I think this may be
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related to the tech bros and the wealthy donors. I just think maybe in the global corporatist
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and Wall Street and the chamber of commerce, I'm throwing out some just random, random ideas
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that are popping into my brain right now. Of course it's them. The worst cretins in the
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world crawling under, from under their rocks and trying to come in, get what they do, you
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know, take a bite of the country, get some, better get some. Not going to get any of this,
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sir. Not going to happen. Short commercial break. We're going to the Guadalupe River,
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you've got a couple. You're on assignment for us. You're doing an amazing job. You came off of
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everything in Iowa. It went right there. It's a horrible situation. They canceled the press
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conference, folks. I know they're busy. They're swamped, but I assume they don't have great
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news. That's where they cancel it. Maybe later tonight we'll find out, but for right now,
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the one we're going to cover, not there. Burquam, I think you might have an observation or two about
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what I just said about mass amnesties and mass deportations since you went in harm's way for
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the last four years. Well, you, Oscar Blue Ramirez, there's a half a dozen people associated with this
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channel that put their lives on the line in some of those dangerous cartel-ridden and places down in
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the Darien Gap. Come on, man. People are talking about, oh, this guy did this for 2024. Hey, Oscar
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Blue Ramirez, Ben Burquam, Michael Yan, the whole team down there. Loomer went down for a while. Your
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whole team that was down there the whole time, Real America's Voice, camera crews, all of it.
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What do you think when you hear Charlie Kirk saying they're making a move now, not just to stop mass
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deportations, but to have mass amnesty? And I think you were in Iowa. Let me say something, folks.
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President Trump's speech was amazing. The whole thing, coming back to the White House,
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there was a buzzkill in that speech, and the buzzkill was that line. And so I want to welcome
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another member of the radical right, Ben Burquam, a serious member of the radical right. Ben Burquam
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Ultra extreme MAGA. I got my shirt in the car. Yeah, that, that, I'll tell you, I was at that rally
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and you could hear a pin drop when he threw that out there. When he, when he weather ballooned
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that one, it popped and nobody, I mean, the whole crowd was like, are you kidding? You got to be
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kidding, right? I mean, everybody in MAGA wants more deportations, not less. And as a guy coming
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from California, you know, I've been doing this for a long time when it comes to what we've seen
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with Joe Biden's border invasion, but I've been involved with this for way longer than that. I had
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to sit in classes at Fresno State in California through my undergrad and graduate programs with
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illegal aliens that were getting full ride scholarships. That was where I realized what
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the hell's going on. And, and I worked in the agricultural community in California. I helped with
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the, the Central Valley farmers as they were fighting to get their water back from Gavin Newsom
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and the radical leftists that were taking it because of the Delta smelt. Well, I also saw what
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they were doing, what farmers were doing, exploiting illegal aliens, and they've been doing that for
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decades. Now to throw in there, Charlie Kirk. Oh man, that was so good. Charlie throwing in there,
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the fact that they want to, Oh, let's just throw in hotels. Oh, and maybe restaurants. Oh, and how
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about every other sector of our economy and our, and our country? Illegal aliens have infiltrated
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everything. And the only people that want them to stay here are the people that have used them and
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abused them and use them as cheap laborers because they don't want to hire you American citizens.
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That's the truth. Hell no is my answer. No, absolutely no amnesty, all deportation.
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And if, if I, you know, if you can't hear me, all deportation.
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Yeah, the people pushing, yeah, all deport them all. By the way, people pushing this,
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we're going to start naming names tomorrow. So you keep pushing, you're going to have to deal with the,
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with the, with the Vox Populi, the voice of the people are going to have to understand this.
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Ben, I'm a little concerned. You're down there and there's no press conference. The press
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conference has at least been good to talk about, and they've done a great job so far. And I realize
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they're under tremendous pressure and they talked today, the scale of this, they're getting these
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volunteer groups. Um, the, the, is there any reason in your mind you think that they've delayed
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this? At least, I guess, hopefully we're going to have the evening one. Is there anything that's
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happened today that leads you to believe why they, why they are delaying, or at least canceling the
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press conference now? They may have one later. Your thoughts since you're down there, our guy on
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the ground. Yeah, no, I think it's, I think it's pretty clear, uh, that 72 hour mark, anyone who's
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been involved in search and rescue 72 hours is, is the life death threshold typically. And so I think
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we're heading into that all recovery phase. Um, and I think honestly they're, that's their focus is
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recovery. Uh, they, they have been fed up with the, the media, the line of questions that they've
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been getting. And I think the last thing they want is we're heading towards a hundred. Uh, we're in the
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nineties of death toll. In fact, I found another body. I was actually a place I was hiking around
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yesterday, looking through the debris. I went over there right after the press conference this
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morning, they had just found another body. That's what's happening. And I honestly think they just
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don't want to talk about it. I mean, these guys are overwhelmed. They're overburdened and they're
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being attacked by the media. That's not really doing anything to help other than creating more
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hysteria and fear and blaming president Trump. Let's let, let, let, let's talk about this. I
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saw, you saw the tender today and for our audience to catch it, Ben Burquam represented you and
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represented us and Rav amazingly asked two brilliant questions. Um, you know, one that the director of
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operations answered, I thought very good, but didn't, he didn't have a warm fuzzy after he gave the answer
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and Ted Cruz, um, the media, every question, I think the first five or six questions are literally
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just his attack questions on the national weather service on alerts on all that. Is that what the
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folks down there, they're just besieged now by a mainstream media that is absolutely focused on
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finding blame somehow with president Trump on this and that they're just tired of it. I mean,
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they're, they're under so much pressure. They've been doing this nonstop since early, you know,
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three, four or five in the morning on Friday morning on, on 4th of July. Is that why you
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think they delayed it? Is that the media is just out of control?
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Yeah, I think you can only see so many dead kids and so many dead friends in your neighborhood,
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uh, and go to 10 press conferences and be asked the same stupid questions other than ours.
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Uh, before you get to a point where you say, why the hell are we doing this? Why are we giving
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these guys the time of day? We're just going to do what we're going to do. And I mean, I would,
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I, I, I don't begrudge them for doing that. Honestly, it doesn't hurt my feelings at all.
00:23:45.340
I've sat through every one of these press conferences and it makes me sick. I have to
00:23:48.780
listen to these idiots. So I, it wouldn't surprise me at all if that was the reason they're not doing
00:23:54.580
one this evening. In fact, they've canceled the rest for today. The next one will be tomorrow.
00:23:58.320
I'll be back on the road heading home. Um, but that, that, that's the anticipation.
00:24:03.540
That's where we're at right now. I think, you know, I think that you get to a point where you say,
00:24:06.660
you're, you're asking me the same questions and I don't have an answer to, to, to, for you to use
00:24:10.820
in your pitch line tonight to attack president Trump. That's the feeling you get at these things.
00:24:15.500
Um, and it's not just attacking president Trump. It's attacking them directly. You know,
00:24:18.860
each one of these guys have put their lives out there. These are their family and their friends
00:24:22.680
and their community. And, and these jackals, these vultures going in there, clearly they don't care.
00:24:28.720
It's all disingenuous. Why do the press conferences? Honestly,
00:24:32.660
I wouldn't fault them if that's why they did it. Um, I, in the information you just gave me,
00:24:39.960
they're not going to have the late night one either. Then pretty clearly, I think this is
00:24:44.080
the line of demarcation from the search and rescue tomorrow. They'll announce the recovery phase,
00:24:48.680
right? And they don't want to sit there and have the media just national weather service,
00:24:52.800
national weather service, one, one o'clock in the morning, three o'clock in the morning.
00:24:56.120
So it's logical why they're doing this. And, uh, Ben, uh, any summary thoughts you have,
00:25:02.260
I know you're going to punch out tomorrow. You're going to get back. We've got so much
00:25:04.480
other stuff going on, uh, this horrible tragedy. Um, any closing observations or thoughts since
00:25:10.980
you've been there, met so many people and, uh, have, uh, and we've covered this. I want to thank
00:25:15.600
Real America's Voice all Saturday, all Friday when other networks wouldn't do it. We tried to be
00:25:20.120
there for these people to make sure the information got out.
00:25:22.460
Yeah, I'll just say this. I'm putting the pieces together. The fact that I was there on Thursday
00:25:29.580
when president Trump announced the signing of the bill, you come here Friday, this disaster happens
00:25:34.060
and you look at the response by the left. Clearly they, they, they, they projected this. We're going
00:25:39.320
to have, Americans are going to die. And all they looked for was the first thing they could say.
00:25:43.160
We could blame president Trump, the bill, all this, this is that thing for them now. So I anticipate
00:25:48.860
that's what you're going to hear until they have something else to use for this, this political
00:25:53.380
football of president Trump. The bill is going to kill people. It didn't work with Medicaid because
00:25:58.600
everyone realized it was a bunch of illegals that are getting kicked off. They're going to try to use
00:26:02.380
it on this. I would just say to the American people, you're smarter than that. We know that
00:26:05.800
our audience is smarter than that. And the biggest thing on all of this is pray for this community.
00:26:11.000
Pray for the parents that lost their children, pray for the children that lost their parents
00:26:14.480
and pray that we get some answers in the end of the reality of, of, if these, these things
00:26:19.200
can be prevented. Some of these acts of God, you can't prevent. Some of this stuff is just
00:26:23.000
part of life. Death is a part of life, sadly. Um, but the key is faith and knowing where you're
00:26:28.100
going after this. And that's my prayer for everybody that's here, that's involved with
00:26:31.800
this and for the American people to understand this battle again is just beginning. We have this
00:26:37.660
fight to save our country. It's all good versus evil. We need more God, less devil. And that's
00:26:43.220
my prayer for this country. Ben Burkwam, thank you. Great coverage and, uh, send our, uh,
00:26:49.840
send our best, uh, to the folks there, these great heroes that are on the search and rescue
00:26:54.460
and these parents, these begreve parents in a community, Kerrville, uh, Texas. We'll
00:26:58.700
be making an announcement about Kerrville, uh, tomorrow. Something we've been working on
00:27:02.280
with the folks in Kerrville for about a month or so that we'll, uh, we'll have some folks on
00:27:06.600
talking about tomorrow. Ben Burkwam, thank you, sir. Appreciate you.
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Tej Gill, you've been involved in situations. You know how hard search and rescue is. Many of the
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guys there are Navy SEALs, Special Forces, Special Operators, Green Berets, Army Rangers,
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Special Forces from the Air Force, Navy. You know how tough. What kind of strain are these folks going on
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to, sir? Doing it now constantly since Friday morning?
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Yeah, they're going to be under tremendous strain, Steve. One, from the hard work with all the water
00:31:29.500
and debris everywhere. But two, these guys are working around the clock. And they're going to
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be putting a tremendous amount of stress on themselves trying to find missing children and
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missing families. So these guys are probably exhausted by now. It's Monday. You know, this started
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Fourth of July night. And then who knows how long this is going to go. So they need to manage their
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time and manage rotations. Their leadership needs to pull them out and make them rest. Otherwise,
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they're going to become useless because they're just going to exhaust themselves and wear themselves
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out. So they got to work in shifts. And whoever's in charge of them has to make sure they're working
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in shifts because it's just the sleep deprivation alone is going to get you. And then, like I said,
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this pressure that they're putting on themselves to find missing children, especially when people have
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parents. You know, they're going to be turning and burning going after these kids trying to find
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them. So it's going to be a very, very stressful environment.
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Tom. By the way, I skipped Coast Guard. And I think the individual has done more
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rescues. 165 is Coast Guard. So also the Coast Guard. Coast Guard is spectacular at this. In fact,
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they go out. Coast Guard goes out to see when other people are coming in. So they're very special.
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So, uh, go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead. I said, I saw, I saw this morning, one of these Coast Guard
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guys, I don't know if he's a rescue swimmer or what, but he was responsible personally for the
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We're going to go from Geneva. We've got folks in Brazil about this Brazil situation. President
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Trump threw down hard today supporting President Jair Bolsonaro. I'm going to get to that in a
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moment. First off, I've got Noor bin Laden and Joe Allen has just arrived in Geneva for this AI
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conference. But Joe, just give a couple of minute frame for what we're in investigation and talking
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to people and getting more data about this whole thing of seeding and this company Rainmaker,
00:36:03.960
Yeah, Steve, this is a horrific disaster and absolutely don't want to exploit it. But there
00:36:12.980
are a lot of questions about the various geoengineering projects going on in Texas and
00:36:18.360
around the world. I myself, I should say right up front, I think geoengineering is a horrible and
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reckless idea, whether it be rampant cloud seeding or the more extreme proposals to
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literally seed the entire atmosphere with reflective particles to cool the entire planet.
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I think that there's about 8.5 billion of us that have not been consulted about that.
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But in Texas, you have in Texas, just as you have in South Dakota, all throughout the drier
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portions of the United States, cloud seeding operations. One of those companies came under
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scrutiny, Rainmaker. Rainmaker was founded by Augustus Dorko. And he's a young kid, a Peter
00:37:07.820
Thiel fellow. So he got his start with Thiel funding. He also, his company is funded by Balaji
00:37:16.480
Srinivasan, a former Andreessen Horowitz associate. So he's kind of right-leaning, a Christian kid.
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Anyway, his company, Rainmaker, flew a cloud seeding operation on July 2nd, two days before
00:37:32.440
the massive downpour. And so people are asking questions. Could that have had an effect on the
00:37:39.840
remnants of the tropical storm that hovered over Kerr County the way it did? I think myself,
00:37:48.620
I'm not a meteorologist, nor am I a geoengineer. I think that cloud seeding doesn't really make
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clouds. It causes them to release rain. And that one, that storm was already releasing rain. I don't
00:38:00.360
really think that Rainmaker caused that disaster. There was a very similar flooding disaster, very,
00:38:08.580
very similar in 1987. There was no cloud seeding going on then, to my awareness. So it does raise a lot
00:38:16.600
of questions though. Does cloud seeding have negative impacts on the environment? You can see
00:38:24.300
the map here. These are all the areas as of 2022, where cloud seeding operations are going on. And if
00:38:31.320
you see the green there, just north of that is Kerr County. The green is the South Texas Weather
00:38:37.980
Weather Modification Association, who have been flying missions for about 28 years, at least since
00:38:45.700
1996. So again, I think that Ted Cruz's statement that it absolutely didn't happen. I, maybe, maybe
00:38:55.040
not. I tend to agree that it probably wasn't cloud seeding, but I also think that these are questions,
00:39:00.680
not answers. And we really need to be raising these questions and getting to the bottom
00:39:04.400
of not just the negative impacts of weather modification.
00:39:08.700
Yeah. But we have to start. Yeah. We have to start on this. We have to get scientists. We have
00:39:13.620
to get technologists. We have to find out. We don't know. We don't know, but we got to get to the
00:39:18.340
bottom of it. That's kind of the first question. Is this an act of God alone, or is this an act of
00:39:22.540
God that man had some sort of hand in? So we just got to find out that and we'll get the experts.
00:39:27.180
We're talking to experts already, but I know you've done a lot of work on this. Like I said,
00:39:30.640
as you know, geoengineering hasn't really been my thing. But we're going to have to make it
00:39:36.460
something we cover in the war room, along with other aspects of chemtrails and others.
00:39:43.460
Marjorie Taylor Greene is going to be on tomorrow about a bill that she's putting up to stop all
00:39:47.200
this in Congress and just said it's not enough science to kind of back up what we're doing.
00:39:52.020
Hang on for one second. I'm going to get Noor bin Laden here. Joe Allen is actually in Geneva,
00:39:56.140
going all the way from Wyoming to Montana, because we're all out for this artificial
00:40:01.580
intelligence. Noor, tell us what's going to happen in Geneva over the next couple of days
00:40:06.040
that you're going to be reporting for us live with Joe Allen. Ma'am?
00:40:11.000
Sure. Thanks, Steve. Great to be with you. So tomorrow kickstarts a conference in Geneva entitled
00:40:17.920
AI for Good. It's being organized by the UN, more specifically, the ITU International
00:40:27.920
Telecommunications Union, which is the UN's specialized agency dealing with information
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and communication technologies. It's actually the oldest formal international organization in the
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world along with the Red Cross. It was started in 1865 and then it was absorbed in the UN following
00:40:50.180
its creation in 1948. So we're dealing with a body here that has been regulating everything that has
00:40:56.820
to do with information, technology, communications for a very long time. And they are really at the
00:41:02.280
forefront of putting this conference together on AI. I believe it's the ninth edition, but it's its
00:41:10.060
biggest edition yet. It's being held in one of the biggest convention centers in Switzerland here
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in Geneva called Pal Expo. And we're expecting a lot of attendees to be here with very important
00:41:25.960
guests. We've been going over the program with Joe, and I'm so delighted that you've sent him over
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to Geneva. He's the perfect partner in crime to cover this event.
00:41:38.480
Joe, why is it named AI for Good? That sounds like they're nervous and they're trying to sell us
00:41:46.520
Oh, they're trying to sell something, all right. They're trying to sell AI governance. Now, I think
00:41:51.960
that regulating AI is going to be extraordinarily important going forward, but we'll see. I've seen
00:41:59.260
some of the previous editions of this in previous years from AI for Good, but I think that probably
00:42:07.080
the angle that is going to be overriding this is how do you get global governance of AI? China,
00:42:15.440
I recently learned from Stuart Russell of the Future of Life Institute, China is actually far more keen
00:42:23.300
on regulating AI than the United States and even Europe. They have more regulation in place than
00:42:29.600
both combined. So, the fear there would be that China would take the lead in global AI governance
00:42:38.380
and steer it in directions that the U.S. certainly wouldn't want to go along with. I think that's
00:42:42.940
going to be an overarching theme. There's one other theme, though, Steve, that is also kind of curious.
00:42:48.400
Some of the most amazing figures that are going to be there, people like Jeffrey Hinton,
00:42:54.340
so-called godfather of AI, Joshua Bengio, also a lesser known but kind of rising figure, Roman
00:43:04.360
Jampalski. These guys are extraordinarily pessimistic about where AI is going. These guys have what is
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known as very high levels of P-doom, very high probabilities that AI leads to doom. So, it's an
00:43:20.900
interesting juxtaposition to have these very kind of pessimistic thinkers, even if they're pro-technology,
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and kind of very terrified of AI at AI for good.
00:43:31.400
Can you guys hang on? I know it's late there, but I want to take a short break. I've got Eduardo
00:43:40.860
Bolsonaro. This is breaking news, massive news coming out of Brazil with President Trump and
00:43:45.820
Morales, the head of the Supreme Court. President Trump throws down hard today. Eduardo Bolsonaro
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00:43:58.120
Allen, who are covering AI conference, a massive AI conference, AI for good. We're going to get back
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from Bolsonaro by these communist Marxist criminals of Lula and Morales, and Morales actually worse
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I understand in Brazil, Lula's always responded to it, that in Brazil, it's created a firestorm,
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sir. Yeah, things in Brazil are really on fire. Everybody's talking about this post of President
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00:48:36.800
House, which means that they are declaring the United States government as a criminal organization.
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So this is very serious. And more than that, you have even the censorship cases. This man,
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the judge Morais, the justice from the Supreme Court, he also sued arrest warranty against an American
00:48:58.060
citizen because posting from the U.S. soil. So what else do you need to, you know, to show to the world
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that this guy must, he needs to be stopped. Someone has to stop him. And we really hope that Trump can
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Let's talk about the OFAC sanctions because Morales is one of the worst people on the world stage right
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now. And he must be dealt with. Talk to me about what's so important about, because people should
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know there's a lot of activity going on behind the scenes. Why is it so important to get an OFAC
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sanction against Morales and some of these criminals in Lula's government, sir?
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Because in the Supreme Court of Brazil, we have 11 justices. And no one believes that the other 10
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justices, despite that some of them are supporting and backing Morais for all of these actions, no one
00:49:54.600
believes that they could get the censorship flag and go on. Some of them, they are going a couple of years,
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they are going to be retired. No one wants to go to be retired and live with sanctions on them.
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So we really believe that OFAC sanctions is the right medicine against these virus. But the problem
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is if the United States, if the Trump administration thinks they take a little bit longer, then the regime
00:50:25.520
will be consolidated. And it will be really hard to apply these sanctions with some effects. I mean,
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it will be like Venezuela. In Venezuela nowadays, you can apply sanctions and it does not change the
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things. In Brazil, we are still in a moment that these sanctions could stop them to become so aggressive
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And you should know that there's a huge undertaking here in the United States to make sure this happens.
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We think the criminal element down in Brazil that's, look, we're convinced stole the election,
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should be brought to justice. And the first way to do it is not let them have access to the United
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States of America. Also bring sanctions against them. We have to do that. And we're pushing,
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the war is pushing very hard for that to happen. Eduardo, I'd like you to stay through the break.
00:51:19.820
And Paulo, stay through the break. I've got Noor bin Laden, have Joe Allen in Geneva. Jack
00:51:25.580
Bassoba is going to join us. Mark Caputo from Axios is going to story. Amazing, amazing revelations
00:51:32.000
about the CIA. I know that may shock some people. Also Netanyahu, I think is about to show up at the
00:51:38.480
White House. There's going to be a dinner tonight. Not a lot of fanfare about it. I want to go to one
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thing. I got about a minute here, Eduardo. If for any reason your father can't run and the whole
00:51:50.700
purpose of what we're trying to do is to make sure that he can run. But it's quite interesting. I just
00:51:55.700
saw a poll this afternoon, sir. Eduardo, you also are leading Lula. Any observations on that? I tell you
00:52:05.400
what, hang on. I want that observation to come after the break. So we have President Bolsonaro is
00:52:12.220
leading Lula. That's why he's on trial, because this is the way they do it, just like here in the
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United States, like they did in France. They can't win at the ballot box. They have to either steal
00:52:20.980
elections or try to jail their opponents. This is throughout the world. But what's most fascinating
00:52:27.680
in the great awakening in Brazil, Eduardo now leads Lula. And Lula is down there making, showing his
00:52:37.660
true Marxist nature, trying to unite these enemies of the West and the enemies of the Judeo-Christian
00:52:44.980
West and the enemies of the United States on this BRICS. And President Trump sent a shot across the
00:52:51.460
battle of Morales, and he sent a shot across the battle of Lula. He said, hey, brother, anybody that
00:52:58.140
teams up on this, I'm going to add another 10% on tariffs. See if you guys can exist like that.
00:53:03.720
Don't think a lot of folks can be signed up for the BRICS, as Philip Patrick told you today,
00:53:08.440
at Birch Gold, they're trying to get around, keep the de-dollarization movement under a lid.
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Short commercial break, the second hour, more on fire than even the first.
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