Episode 4722： Collusion Between Your Government And Big Tech Episode 4722： Collusion Between Your Government And Big Tech
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Alex Castellanos joins me to talk about the Democratic Party's continued decline in African-American support and why it's time for the party to do something about it. He also talks about how to turn things around, and why the party should focus on winning back black voters.
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with all of this new data in the Times and get your reaction to this analysis that shows your
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party hemorrhaging voters from several different demographics. Well, good morning. Thanks for
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having me. I think it's certainly something you can't ignore. I think for some time now,
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people in the party have ignored the trends. I thought the article did a great job of identifying
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the problem and you have to acknowledge the problem before you can begin to address it.
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I know that what I'm doing here back in Rochester is really trying to organize people, trying to get
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them to knock on doors and visit with community and talk to people and really engage in conversation
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about what voters have expectations around, what things they're concerned about. Sometimes, you
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know, we become convinced that the things we care about is what everyone cares about. And sometimes
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that's not the case. So we really have to do a much better job in a very granular way,
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in a literally door-by-door way. And we're organizing here in Rochester. I've literally spent
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every waking moment meeting with groups in the community, people with all political persuasions
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and stripes, to talk to them, engage with them in what they see happening. And there are real concerns
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about authoritarianism, but there are equally concerns about, you know, am I going to have
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health care? Am I going to be able to feed my family? Are the price of goods too high? And those
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are the things that I think we need to address.
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We have to, the Democrats have to go where we do have the numbers. And keep in mind how bad this is
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in terms of denying people representation. I mean, this is all about busting up black congressional
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districts. Let's just put it out there. They're trying to do it in Missouri to, to a Congressman
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Cleaver, who is former mayor of Kansas City, beloved in Kansas City, is represented in Kansas City
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ably and with a lot of popularity for years. They're going to try to take away his seat in
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Missouri. So we'd be down to, with two major metropolitan areas, we'd be down to one black
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congressman in the whole state of Missouri. And that's what they're doing in Texas. They'll be down
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to two black congressmen or women in the state of Texas. And one district goes 500 miles.
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Now, I was a state representative. I can assure you, you cannot represent folks and see them
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and talk to them. If you've got to travel 500 miles to see your constituents, it is crazy.
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So it's wrong. It's immoral. It's not democratic. The Supreme Court is responsible, but Democrats
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have to fight fire with fire. So in every state where we can squeeze out another seat, they need
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to get busy and do the same thing to the Republicans that they're doing to us.
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Russia is pushing back on the idea of Western nations providing security guarantees for Ukraine
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after the war. Yesterday, the Kremlin's foreign minister said Moscow must be included in any
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talks about security guarantees and suggested China, Russia's ally, should be among Ukraine's
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guarantors. He also avoided making any direct reference to a possible summit between Vladimir Putin
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and Volodymyr Zelensky, signaling the Kremlin may be trying to delay planning a bilateral meeting.
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Meanwhile, the Pentagon's top policy official reportedly told a group of European military
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leaders the U.S. plans to play a minimal role in those security guarantees. Sources tell Politico
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defense chiefs from the U.K., France, Germany and Finland are pushing the United States to disclose
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what it would provide in terms of troops and air assets. Politico also reporting NATO allies
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becoming increasingly concerned. The Trump administration will rely on Europe to ensure
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that long-term peace. It's both a show. It's both there to kind of produce B-roll for the White
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House social media accounts. But it also is like it's a legitimate like I call an occupation of D.C.
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It's an assault on the on the rights of the residents of D.C. And it's also an expression of the
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authoritarian mindset and intent of the administration that they they believe that they have the right to
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subject American citizens to this because they feel like it. And it's it's a stunning attack on what I
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would consider sort of the basic privileges and immunities of American citizenship, not to be subject
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to military occupation. This is radical rigging of a midterm election, radical rigging of an election,
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destroying, vandalizing this democracy, the rule of law. So I'm sorry. I know some people's
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sensibilities. I respect and appreciate that. But right now, with all due respect, we're walking down
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a damn different path. We're fighting fire with fire. And we're going to punch these sons of bitches
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in the mouth. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going
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to medieval on this people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people
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had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything
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in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people
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like that go to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people
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had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my
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country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
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Thursday, 21 August, Year of the Lord, 2025. We're going to get into all this today, particularly
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the, there's no, it should not be any celebration in Texas. That's five seats. The maximalist position
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is 10. You see Gavin Newsom, what's going to happen. So it's time that we're going to talk
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about that later in the show. If I were going to go back and get the other five. Also, Ukraine,
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numbers are coming out in the last 24, 48 hours. Everything you've heard on TV from everybody,
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on Fox, on MSNBC, it's all lies. The math is coming out now. And you understand what
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President Trump's been talking about, these horrible casualties, 1.7 million dead and wounded
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Ukrainians. This is why they can't get it. 625,000 this year alone. And all the nations
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of Europe, the UK punched out on having any real guarantees when Starmer got back. The Germans
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said, no, we're not going to do it. You know, Starmer said, we'll guard a port or, you know,
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the air or something. No troops on the ground. Nobody at the line of contact. Nobody. Poland
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didn't even come over. France talked big. Nothing happening. It's absolutely, this is why President
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Trump, the Guardian, the great Hugo Lowell, at the Guardian is reporting today. President Trump
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kind of stepping back and saying, hey, if Zelensky and Putin can pull for meeting, good. Let them get
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in a room. I'm not going to be there. Bilateral. I wouldn't count on that anytime soon. I'll get
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into the math and break it all down later in the show. I want to start off, I want to welcome and
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thank. I've been waiting a long time for this. Senator Eric Schmidt of Missouri joins us, and it's
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his new book that we want to talk about, The Last Line of Defense, How to Defeat the Left in Court,
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if we can get that great title up there. Senator, I haven't had a chance to thank you for your time
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as Attorney General of the great state of Missouri. And Missouri is a great state, and I'll tell you
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why. It is the only state in this union that has two United States senators that are populist
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nationalists and putting forward the MAGA agenda every day. Your work as Attorney General is
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unparalleled in the effort to save this country, and this book is a must-read. I want to start at
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the end because you go after the Chinese Communist Party. You don't take any easy ones. You go after
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the Chinese Communist Party on COVID. You've got the most important First Amendment case. You go
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after Biden. You expose everything there. But what is so important about this is your angle of attack
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is how are we going to win? And that's the problem. We've seen this in Texas in the last couple of days
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where our last three or four weeks, we have to goad people to stand up and fight. And finally,
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if you cut off all their other alternatives, they'll fight. That's not your angle of attack.
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Your angle of attack is to think it through and think through how we're going to win and then get
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on with it. So walk me through that. Walk me through just that perspective you've got of how
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do you actually beat these guys? Well, I think the most important thing, Steve, and why I wrote the book
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is you have to have courage. It's a lot easier in these jobs just to go to the ribbon cuttings and get
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the accolades or whatever. That's not me. And that's not why I ran for office. It's not why I
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was attorney general. It's not why I'm a U.S. senator. It's about saving the country. And I
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think if you understand the landscape and what I try to lay out in the last line of defense is
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what were we dealing with? When President Trump and his allies were out of power, the left was
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truly on the march. I mean, it was a no, they were take no prisoners mentality. Like they came for,
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whether it's, you know, lockdowns, compulsory COVID shots, you know, blatantly open borders,
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DEI struggle sessions, CRT in our schools, a censorship regime, ESG, all of it, all of it
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was coming at us. And I decided that, you know what, in that role at that time, I was going to
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fight back. And we took the vaccine mandates to the Supreme Court and we won. We took the student
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loan debt forgiveness case to the Supreme Court and we won. We exposed the massive censorship enterprise
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in Missouri versus Biden. We took on 50 plus school districts for mask mandates and we won.
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We opened up investigations against some of the biggest banks in the world because of their ESG
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policies. And we got them to back down. I mean, time and time again, the lesson is if you're
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willing to fight, you can win. And we cannot see the courts to the left. I think for far too long,
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conservatives have sort of done that. It's like, oh, that's their terrain. It can't be. Like we got
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to fight on the legislative level. We got to fight on the executive level. It's one of the reasons why
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I handled the rescissions package in the Senate. We got that done to pull back this ridiculous
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funding for USAID and Guatemalan sex changes and all this nonsense. I think it was important to
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demonstrate we're willing to fight back on that. And actually when we defunded NPR along the way,
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but in the court system, I think the time is AG. It was just sort of defined by this worldwide
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pandemic and social unrest and the most aggressively leftist regime we've seen in the history of the
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country. And we had to fight back. And now, and really honestly, kind of hold the line
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until the Calvary could arrive. And the Calvary arrived and the fever broke in November of 2024
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when President Donald J. Trump kind of, you know, won again and is now delivering this historic
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agenda that we now have. I was really, I mean, President Trump endorsed the book.
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J.D. Vance has got a blurb in there. It's just really gratifying as somebody,
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there's no daylight between me and where those guys are at on these policy issues.
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And we got to approach all of this with a sense of urgency, Steve. I know you talk about it every day.
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But you give a good sense of where they're trying to thwart the Trump revolution and the
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MAGA revolution is in the courts because they understand their last line of defense is the
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courts and they're very aggressive. I want to go through some specific cases while we've got the
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time. First off, everybody tells you, and nobody, nobody, any attorney general in the, even at the
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federal level, nobody will go after the Chinese Communist Party. You went after the Chinese Communist
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Party. And to me, it's still sitting out there with like, hey, Schmidt won this thing. What are we doing
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So in March of 2020, right, like when this is unfolding, it's, you know, you start to, look, the CCP was
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well aware of COVID in November and December of 2019. There's a whistleblower, Dr. Lee, that came forward.
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He mysteriously died after he recanted what he saw about what was happening in the hospitals there in
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Wuhan. And so they knew it was real. They knew it was a deadly virus. They didn't want to do anything
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about it. They wanted to cover it up. And how did they cover it up? Well, they ended flights in and
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out of Wuhan domestically, but not internationally. China also became the net, the largest net exporter of
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PPE to the largest net importer of PPE in those months. So they knew it was going down. They
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didn't tell anybody. And of course, the World Health Organization, which is just a puppet for
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for the CCP, they helped hide all this, too. So what does President Trump do? He says, look,
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this is crazy thing happening. Wuhan, we're going to shut down flights in and out of China. He's
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characterized as the xenophobe in chief, right? All this. The left did something. You started to see
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the Trump derangement syndrome kind of play out on that stage, too. So we saw enough. And actually,
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my solicitor general at the time, John Sauer, who's now the solicitor general of the United States,
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just a brilliant guy who's winning a lot of these lawsuits now for the Trump administration and was
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his lawyer in the in the presidential immunity case, too, by the way. But we said, you know what,
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there's got to be something here. We're reading this in the newspapers. There's got to be a lot
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more there. So we decided to sue communist China, the CCP, the Wuhan Institute for Virology for unleashing
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COVID on the world. And it was, look, we got a lot of criticism for it. Ultimately, now there's a
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see, there's a twenty four billion dollar judgment out there now that that Andrew Bailey's now moving
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on to the FBI, but hopefully the new attorney general. You can seize assets, Chinese assets
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now with that judgment. I hope that we're aggressive in doing that. But I think it was about, look,
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we're going to I don't care. I mean, obviously, you know, no, no harm has come to me yet. But the CCP
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didn't like that. But who cares? Like, I'm an American and I'm going to fight for, you know,
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like this is my country and this is what you did and you ought to be held accountable for it.
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It's unbelievable and hasn't gotten the publicity. We've got to collect on that. Can you help?
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Senator, I know you're busy. I just want to hold shortly to the break. There's a couple more
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examples. And then we've got to pick your brain on Ukraine. Our audience remembers a couple of years
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ago was on a Sunday, I think it was. And we were streaming this entire over the weekend streaming
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on all our different platforms. That historic debate that Mitch McConnell is trying to jam through
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that huge another bailout for Ukraine. And I think it was Rand Paul, Mike Lee and Senator Eric Schmidt.
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And you gave a historic speech that I think at the time I remember talking to people. We had a hundred
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thousand people on a Sunday and all our different platforms watching. So we'll talk about that.
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Short commercial break. The book is the last line of defense. It is a primer on how to win in a
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Ukraine. I'll get to that in a minute. Ben Harnwell from Rome is also going to join us for a break this
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whole thing down. Senator Schmidt's with us. And folks, I always talk about angle of attack and
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attitude and courage. This book has got it. It's a primer on that. Last line of defense.
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And it comes from the darkest days, from the pandemic all the way through when we were out
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of power. And it's extraordinary. And I strongly recommend everybody get this book. And I've wanted
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to have the senator on. We've had him on many times. I've never been able to thank him for what
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he did as attorney general of the great state of Missouri. And thank God. Think of that team,
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Schmidt. And you got John Sauer, who's tearing it up right now. And now you got Andrew Bailey,
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his deputy over at FBI. Thank God for the great state of Missouri. I'm serious. Thank God for you
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people. No, it's such a great state. I want to go because I know you got a limited time.
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Talk about the Biden because you're also the guy that went and exposed the reality of how in the
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darkest moment of how we were being suppressed by the federal government in conjunction with the big
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tech broligarchs, sir. Yeah. So, you know, we've we everybody saw in 2021 and 2022, this was called a
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conspiracy theory that that conservatives were being, you know, throttled or deplatformed. And we had
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seen enough that Jen Psaki's at the podium talking about flagging things for Facebook. They floated this
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ridiculous idea of a disinformation governance board. Remember what that the Mary Poppins like figure who
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was going to be the head of it. And so we said, you know what, there is something here. Like there's
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there's something here. So we filed a lawsuit in May of 2022, Missouri versus Biden. And we named not the big
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tech companies. We named the government agencies. We named Biden. We named the FBI. We named all these
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agencies we thought were a part of it. And we did something kind of strategic. We talk about it in the
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book, Steve. We didn't seek the injunction, which is to get the government to stop the bad behavior right
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away. We sought discovery first. And that ended up being a key decision. So what did that mean? We got
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thousands and thousands and thousands of pages of emails, text messages. We found out there were
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secret portals between high ranking government officials and high ranking executives at Twitter and
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Facebook coordinating their efforts, the collusion that was happening, the coercion that was happening.
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We took the deposition of Anthony Fauci. And you can read about that in the book, which was wild.
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We took the deposition, interestingly, of Elvis Chan, who was the FBI agent in Northern California,
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who was pre-bunking the Hunter Biden laptop story. Turns out he was having weekly meetings,
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monthly meetings, then weekly meetings, telling them to look out for a Russian hack and leak operation
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in October. And Yoel Roth, who's like this integrity guy at Twitter who's left-leaning,
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even had an affidavit saying, yeah, he was talking specifically about Hunter Biden.
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So the rock that existed, CISA, which is an agency most people have never really heard of,
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we took the deposition of Brian Scully, who was talking about, yeah, they turned that
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against the American people to flag. They were outsourcing to Stanford and to the University of
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Washington. So the punchline here is we uncovered this leviathan of agencies that were set against the
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American people to censor their speech. The First Amendment doesn't allow the government to do it,
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and you shouldn't be able to outsource that either to these big tech behemoths, which is exactly what
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they were doing. And I think it's the most important free speech case in the history of
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our country. We talk about it in the book. And we can't let this stuff ever happen again. And what
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I think the lesson here is, the playbook is, if you've got the guts and you fight back and you've got a
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hunch, we ought to use the court system to expose this corruption, and that's what we were able to do.
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What I love about you is you do not punch down. You go after the biggest and the toughest and the
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ones that look impossible and say, let's just get on with this thing and do it. That's the attitude
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we have to have. Before I let you go, Senator, Ukraine. I mean, there's been, now it's all becoming
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clear with the new revelation of what the casualty rates are. And our allies are not allies. It's all
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talk. Not one of them are going to put anybody in the line of contact. They want the Americans to put up
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the security guarantees. You were on this a couple of years ago. Here's my concern. There's
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now $58 billion. Lindsey Graham and Cotton, these guys have a 58, the McConnell wing in the Senate,
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which is, I don't know, 90% of it, have a $58 billion, another Ukraine bailout going in now
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when it's obviously the Europeans are broke. The Ukrainians don't have any more men to fight.
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I mean, this thing is a debacle. I'm not sure the correct information is getting out there.
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What can you tell us about the current situation in the United States Senate when you guys get back
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Well, look, I think we're, at least my perspective here is, and I think actually from the people who
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have a different foreign policy view than me even, are giving President Trump, he's the one who needs
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to take the lead here, and he is. I mean, he's doing something. Because I'm an American realist,
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I think we've got to focus on our core national interests and pivot to China, right? Our European
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allies need to step up in a much more meaningful way. It's why I went to the Munich Security Conference.
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I was one of like three people standing and clapping for J.D.'s, or Vice President Vance's
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First Amendment remarks there. But to tell the Europeans not what they want to hear, but the truth,
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which is you have to step up for your own defense. And you look at what President Trump's doing,
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Steve, is he's really questioning all these assumptions. Like after World War II,
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defeat Soviet communism, we had, you know, NATO was created. We subsidized it overwhelmingly.
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It's very unbalanced. All these ridiculous trade deals were meant to get them on their feet.
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After the Cold War ended, we never adjusted. So what President Trump is doing, he's realigning
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that relationship, and he's renegotiating these trade deals. And it's about time. I can't believe
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it's taken this long to go do it. But yes, this isn't our war. This is a war between Russia and
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Ukraine. And what President Trump is doing is he's creating space for them to work it out.
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There's no appetite, I don't think, I hope, for any, you know, additional billions of dollars for
00:22:59.480
Ukraine. Like I just, like in Missouri, one thing that no one has ever come up to me and said,
00:23:04.540
you know what, Eric, the most important thing you can do is send another $60 billion to Ukraine.
00:23:08.300
Not one person's ever said that to me. Now, it's a meat grinder. It's a war of attrition at this
00:23:13.680
point. And Russia is, like, historically, that's kind of what they do. So this is the place. And
00:23:19.420
you're a better step up on these security guarantees, because I think President Trump's
00:23:22.920
already made clear, thankfully, that there won't be any U.S. troops on the ground.
00:23:29.060
Senator Smith, where do people get the book? What's your social media feed? Are you going to be
00:23:33.600
doing, you're going to go around and do a book launch? Talk to us about what's going to happen
00:23:37.660
here, because people have got to get this book and got it. If you're, if you're filling in the
00:23:41.340
dumps, get this book and read it. This is the fighting spirit of the MAGA movement.
00:23:47.160
Yeah. The Last Line of Defense, How to Beat the Left in Court, you can get it on Amazon right now,
00:23:51.440
anywhere books are sold. But I think, honestly, this book was written for your audience, Steve,
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people who see all these things happening, and they need to know kind of the behind-the-scenes look
00:24:01.360
of what it was like to be on the front lines there and what it's going to take to win the future.
00:24:06.240
So I'm on Eric underscore Schmidt. That's my social media feed and Facebook and Instagram.
00:24:10.920
But we try to keep it light, but a little spicy. But this is about saving the country.
00:24:16.560
That's why I wrote the book. And there's a lot of lessons here. And it's a playbook for the future.
00:24:22.080
By the way, you were on the front line in the darkest days of this republic.
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Senator Schmidt, honored to have you on here, sir. Thank you.
00:24:30.840
Senator Schmidt came from—the book is about his time as A.G., the attorney general of the great state of Missouri.
00:24:39.100
Now we have a congressman, a friend of the show, that's about to punch out of Congress and run for attorney general.
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Let's play the ad first, and we'll bring in the Chip Roy.
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Born in colonial Virginia and Massachusetts, cementing our legacy as the Lone Star State.
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A place like no other, anchored by liberty, freedom, and self-determination.
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That Texas, the Texas of our dreams, our families, and our forefathers, is under assault.
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Radical Democrats and George Soros are funding DAs and liberal judges hell-bent on coddling criminals and putting Texans in danger.
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Open-border politicians have flooded our streets, hospitals, jails, and schools with illegal immigrants and dangerous fentanyl.
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Empowering cartels while endangering Texans and the immigrants they use as political pawns.
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Liberal lawmakers are pushing to dismantle election security because fraud is their only path to power.
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Faceless corporations and the Chinese Communist Party have gobbled up more and more Texas land,
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while their allies in media and academia poison our culture with woke anti-American propaganda.
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Texans' next attorney general must have a proven record of fighting to preserve, protect, and defend our legacy.
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An attorney general, unafraid to fight, unafraid to win.
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That's why I fought to secure our border and help President Trump deliver results.
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I've prosecuted criminals and had law enforcement's back.
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I've stood against radical Democrats and their un-American agenda, putting Texans above corporate cronyism and global interests.
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I'll always defend the conservative values Texas families cherish.
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And I've led the fight to secure our elections, delivering real results for Texans.
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From the Alamo to our collective response to Hill Country floods,
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Texans have a long legacy of leaders willing to fight to preserve and protect our homes and communities.
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I'm Chip Roy, and I'm running for Attorney General of Texas.
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I'm running to secure our great legacy of freedom.
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I'm running for God, for our families, and for our shared faith.
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Why do you want to leave Congress now in the middle of these fights?
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Russ Vogt is a dear friend working with you and the great folks at War Room in order to advance the ball in D.C.
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But, look, this is going to be the end of my fourth term when I get through the next 16 months.
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We're going to deliver a majority next year by holding the line and fighting on all the issues you and I have talked about.
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But at some point here, you've got to have some churn in Washington.
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And my experience during the Kerrville floods, being with law enforcement, being with all the great leadership here in our communities, my kids are 14 and 15.
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As Texas goes, so will freedom and so will America.
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And I will stay tight with my friends in D.C. and my Freedom Caucus brothers and sisters.
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Okay, so, Congressman, you're going to be with us for all these fights because September is going to be an absolute debacle as they go up to midnight on the 30th.
00:29:51.840
However, we need – and, you know, when Paxton – it was the first – it was the 20th of January 2021 in the afternoon.
00:30:02.400
And Ken Paxton said, hey, wherever the Biden administration is by the Constitution, we'll work with them.
00:30:06.880
Wherever they're against the Constitution, the state of Texas will take the lead.
00:30:10.380
And Ken Paxton did, I think, a fantastic job of doing that.
00:30:13.640
But the reality check we've had – like, let's talk about the redistricting.
00:30:18.100
You've got Gavin Newsom now running for president on his thing over there where they got 40 percent – oh, the 42 percent, I think, of the state is Republican, votes Republican.
00:30:40.100
And everybody else on Fox, they're skipping around how great it was.
00:30:42.400
But the audience here knows that this was done at the tip of the bayonet of the activists.
00:30:50.800
If you go run for attorney general, is source really your biggest enemy or the locked-in business interest of the Republican Party there that's really basically centrist Democrats, sir?
00:31:06.420
By the way, following Eric Schmidt, I just want to point out how important it is to have a good AG like Eric who took on all the mask issues, took on all of the issues involving, you know, Obamacare.
00:31:17.020
Ken Paxton has fought, you know, porn industries, fought big corporations.
00:31:21.020
He's fought to defend Texas against the long reach of Obamacare, fought to secure the border.
00:31:26.500
And, look, to your point, I would just say this.
00:31:29.800
My message in Austin has been we need to be as aggressive as the White House is willing to push for.
00:31:36.000
And, you know, the White House pushed for five.
00:31:38.660
And so right now my view is, well, then move the five through.
00:31:43.080
And so that's what I've been saying with my friends in the state legislature.
00:31:47.080
I think we could be a little more aggressive in Texas.
00:31:53.720
And you need an AG who's going to defend the maps straight up.
00:31:59.700
I was in Washington when we were fighting the Voting Rights Act reauthorization as a lawyer.
00:32:06.800
It was our research in the Judiciary Committee that helped form the basis of Section 5 getting struck down because of the hard work we did.
00:32:15.400
We fought that stuff when I was in the AG's office before.
00:32:19.160
And Congress, we've been working hard to make sure we do the right thing and we can stop the race-based gerrymandering that's been destroying our ability to have real representation.
00:32:29.800
Like, look at all these blue states up in the Northeast who have nothing but Democrat representatives because they've been gerrymandering, as you said, smash mouth.
00:32:37.440
We need to fight them and we need to be aggressive.
00:32:41.200
We've got to get past the sort of corporate-run town in Austin.
00:32:50.540
And we have too many people making decisions here who aren't fighting to get the right thing done.
00:32:54.940
But, look, Ken has been fighting hard against that.
00:32:57.900
I want to carry that forward and we'll do that.
00:32:59.800
Yeah, I think what people are shocked is that, you know, Texas is, I say this, and we love Ohio and Florida and these other places are fantastic.
00:33:12.800
But the railhead of MAGA is in that hard-bitten Texan.
00:33:20.400
And to know that state in Austin, the state is not that conservative the way it's run.
00:33:35.060
Where are you going to – you're starting today, but where are you going to go?
00:33:37.920
What's this – knowing you, as long as I've known you from the time – I think you were Ted Cruz's chief of staff.
00:33:46.980
Yeah, tomorrow I'll be out with the Tea Party talking about the SAVE Act that I introduced in Congress to ensure that only American citizens vote in American elections.
00:33:57.760
We're going to be out there talking about our need to go even further.
00:34:00.040
I'm working with our mutual and good friend, Kalita Mitchell, to draft another round of legislation.
00:34:04.500
I'm not going anywhere in the House for 16 months.
00:34:07.300
I'm going to be fighting alongside you guys, Russ Vogt, and everybody else, and we're going to deliver for the president, make sure we build the majority.
00:34:13.300
I'm going to be on the road meeting with some good activists in Tyler this Saturday, all over the state, that I've been working with for two decades, while we've been trying to move forward to build this conservative movement.
00:34:24.920
I've been a part of it from the beginning, Steve, as you know, meeting in the basement of Tortilla Coast with the founding members of the Freedom Caucus before the Freedom Caucus even existed, when I was Ted Cruz's chief of staff, before it was cool to be where we are today.
00:34:38.020
And I've been fighting that and will continue to do that.
00:34:44.640
I'll be up in Congress, you know, the week after Labor Day.
00:34:50.300
And we need to hold spending flat or reduced when we have the big spending fight in September.
00:34:57.320
I'm going to be an honest broker with that, as I was in trying to get the big, beautiful bill delivered.
00:35:01.200
It could have been better, but I think we delivered some real good spending restraint.
00:35:04.700
And frankly, four or five hundred billion dollars of elimination of those ridiculous green new scam subsidies.
00:35:15.060
And then as AG, we've got to be aggressive in fighting.
00:35:23.080
We cannot have open borders, no matter who's in the White House.
00:35:30.080
We've got to stand up against property taxes and the confiscation of people's wealth.
00:35:39.360
Chip, where do people go to find out your fight that we're going to have in September on the budget and on the appropriations?
00:35:46.540
And where do they go to your campaign site for AG?
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Deeply appreciative of all you've done in your service for this country, Steve.
00:36:05.060
I can't say enough what your stand and going to prison and standing up in defense of our values, what that means, and deeply appreciative of the entire posse.
00:36:19.840
We provide access to guys like you, and we got the greatest audience in the world of activists.
00:36:40.880
That's going to be a big one down there in Texas.
00:36:44.360
And, of course, Eric Schmidt went from the AG, a historic run as AG of Missouri and now the United States Senate.
00:36:54.240
You've got Eric Schmidt, Chip Roy, and I've got my brother, Dr. Peter Navarro.
00:36:58.520
Before I talk about your prison time, Dr. Navarro, did you guys finally make a deal with the EU?
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Not only do we have a deal with the EU, Steve, it should put to rest any criticism whatsoever, anywhere in the universe, of Donald Trump and his terror policies.
00:37:31.700
Because this works for both Europe and the U.S., but it works for Europe because it levels the playing field and it puts an end to this.
00:37:42.520
I mean, let's think about what this EU deal looks like.
00:37:47.760
First of all, we get to keep the global reciprocal tariff on at 15 percent, which is designed to reduce our trade deficit.
00:37:59.500
But we get to keep 15 percent tariffs on the EU autos.
00:38:06.140
It used to be two and a half, and they were selling, Germany was selling us seven cars for every one we sold them.
00:38:12.760
We're getting full access to their agricultural market, which they've kept away, so our farmers are going to be really happy.
00:38:20.120
They're going to spend $750 billion on LNG imports, so that'll help our drill-baby-drill segment of our economy.
00:38:31.180
They're going to spend another $600 billion investing here in strategic sectors.
00:38:37.580
And they're going to buy a lot more of our defense weapons, which will help the heartland throughout this country.
00:38:58.480
So I think we're happy about that, and the American people should be elated.
00:39:05.640
I want to talk about attitude and courage, angle of attack, like we talked with Schmidt.
00:39:10.860
But when I came on the campaign in August of 16, you were already there.
00:39:15.000
You were the principal advisor for trade manufacturing.
00:39:17.380
Remember, when I got there, I think we did shift it a little more so that you had a bigger role.
00:39:23.060
The principal reason, I think we won the behind-the-blue wall of Wisconsin and Michigan and Pennsylvania, which people were laughing at us in mid-August.
00:39:31.800
We couldn't do it because of the policies that you were working on, getting advice outside with guys like Lou Dobbs, but really focused on manufacturing and trade.
00:39:39.940
But even given the first term, which was so historic and what you and Lighthizer tried to accomplish on the big overall deal with the Chinese, that the Chinese blew up in May of 19, there is a total difference in the second term.
00:39:52.680
I mean, President Trump has really thought through, with your assistance, the total reorganization of world commerce using tariffs, but tariffs also as an aspect of potential economic warfare and using it in a positive sense to redo the entire world's commercial system to put America at the center of it.
00:40:18.220
What has brought about that change in the out years?
00:40:21.080
What was it you and President Trump worked on that – and because – and when we got in the second time, everybody mocked you.
00:40:35.400
So tell me, what is the difference this term than last?
00:40:42.060
Well, inside the perimeter here, the difference is we don't have to fight a lot of people who are trying to tear down the Trumps.
00:40:51.080
In the first term, in the first term, it was war, Steve.
00:41:00.580
I remember one day I was in the Roosevelt room with the boss.
00:41:06.900
He had every single cabinet member as well as top advisors like Gary Cohn in there.
00:41:11.980
And he was wondering why the tariff policy wasn't going anywhere.
00:41:15.820
And he went around the room and asked him whether they supported tariffs.
00:41:19.360
The only person in that room who supported tariffs with the boss was me.
00:41:27.840
He got moving faster on that because he realized there was trouble in the House.
00:41:34.900
We've got Jameson Greer, who's a very seasoned trade negotiator.
00:41:41.540
And we're doing every country by a set of verticals, tariffs, non-tariff barriers, and a whole bunch of other stuff.
00:41:46.720
We've got Scott Besson over at Treasury, who you and I know well and consider a friend,
00:41:58.760
Not quite like the boss, but Scott's right up there.
00:42:02.840
Howard Lucknick has been a breath of fresh air.
00:42:05.460
He's brought kind of the creativity of Wall Street with the MAGA edge on.
00:42:16.720
And Donald Trump, above all, is the leader of this band, and he's got no fear this time around.
00:42:27.480
I think the one thing that really helps this time around is that all the panikins out there,
00:42:37.260
who claim that the tariffs are going to cause inflation, recession, and chaos,
00:42:41.520
they said the same thing first term, and it didn't happen.
00:42:45.760
So we got the credibility of street cred, and we got over $100 billion already in the bank.
00:42:51.940
And, Steve, the tariffs, a guy like Stephen Moore drives me nuts.
00:43:00.520
It's like every time he says, every time Stephen Moore says that tariffs are a tax cut on consumers,
00:43:07.700
he hurts the Trump trade policy, and it's just false.
00:43:12.740
What tariffs are right now are tax cuts and debt reduction.
00:43:20.420
No, I think it's $2 trillion we're going to raise over the next 10 years on debt reduction.
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By the way, so it's Steve Moore, who's a friend of all ours, but he keeps arguing that.
00:45:06.360
And this is the mentality of the Republican Party, that tariffs are like a tax increase on consumers.
00:45:13.320
Dr. Peter Navarro and Donald Trump are proving that every day.
00:45:29.580
Because you're not only, you and Miller are the two longest serving advisors to President Trump.
00:45:37.320
And you guys have been in the trenches in some of the darkest days.
00:45:44.040
With Escavino, I consider, because Escavino's different.
00:45:48.660
I mean, what he does with that video footage and what he's made, he's become a master filmmaker.
00:45:52.640
You guys have been in the trenches on the policy side in some pretty dark days.
00:45:57.740
On immigration, on sealing the border, on deportations, on everything you've done on trade and all the time.
00:46:02.200
And we've got many, many tough fights ahead, particularly with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:46:08.560
Because you stepped up, would not flinch, would not bend to Nancy Pelosi.
00:46:13.520
And now we're finding out the criminality of the J6.
00:46:16.700
You went to prison, particularly at the advanced age.
00:46:22.340
I've always said Peter Navarro is my younger brother.
00:46:24.440
He's only younger in his biological clock because he's a maniac about working out.
00:46:30.400
He's actually my older brother as far as age go.
00:46:32.940
So talk to us about the book and particularly the title of the book.
00:46:36.580
And I'm very honored that it's a war room book and we're going to have a huge rollout for this.
00:46:44.860
You, Dr. Navarro, went to prison so the audience doesn't have to.
00:46:52.280
You think we still live in this dark of times that potential prison after President Trump leaves in later years,
00:46:59.340
that could still be an issue for the MAGA movement, sir?
00:47:06.800
If this goes to the Democrats in 28 or the Democrats get the House, the subpoenas start flying, everybody's at risk.
00:47:24.380
The title is a tagline from the speech I gave at the Republican National Convention the night before Donald Trump was nominated.
00:47:33.540
What was interesting about the speech that night is literally that morning, about 2 a.m., I had gotten out of prison, got on a plane, came up to Milwaukee.
00:47:44.960
But what I meant by that, I went to prison so you won't have to, means that I'm your wake-up call.
00:47:51.620
If they can come for me, they can come for you.
00:47:55.380
And, look, everybody in the war room knows they're coming for us.
00:48:00.900
It's just a question of whether they have the power.
00:48:04.120
And one of the things I do, and I went to prison so you won't have to, is identify this guy, Walter Giordina, very important player here for America.
00:48:17.500
He's the guy that put me in leg irons and handcuffs, took me down with four other armed agents at Reagan National Airport when they could have just as easily called me on the phone and said,
00:48:28.240
Hey, Navarro, go down and report, they didn't do that.
00:48:31.300
It was a total circus arrest, like Mar-a-Lago raid was a circus event, like what they did to some others in Trump land.
00:48:39.480
But what's interesting, and there's an article that popped yesterday that I wrote at Breitbart, and the reason why it's important is because this guy, Giordina,
00:48:52.560
is the thread across the weave of the tapestry of the weaponization of government and the deep state and the rhinos against Donald John Trump since he was a candidate in 2016.
00:49:07.400
And you see this guy, FBI agent Walter Giordina, former, because Cash Patel fired that SLB, good for him.
00:49:16.380
But you go across the arc and the tapestry of this, Steve, and it starts with the Steele dossier in 2016.
00:49:24.000
This was the fake Clinton research that set the whole Russia hope going.
00:49:29.960
Giordina was one of the FBI agents that vetted it and cleared it and said it wasn't fake.
00:49:37.780
That begat crossfire hurricane and the Russia hoax.
00:49:41.820
Now, at the same time, Steve, I don't know if you know this, there was an Egyptian hoax going on.
00:49:48.960
It was an operation run with the help of Giordina.
00:49:52.040
All this is alleged by whistleblowers, by the way, that Chuck Grassley got out.
00:49:58.100
And what they alleged was there was a $10 million contribution to Trump's campaign.
00:50:02.580
I mean, it was total false, but it allowed Giordina and the FBI and DOJ to go after.
00:50:09.240
And then Giordina goes over to the Mueller investigation, serves there mysteriously.
00:50:16.340
Everything disappears from his laptop, got wiped clean, shades of Hillary Clinton.
00:50:21.680
That's a felony if he did it on purpose, by the way.
00:50:24.460
And then there's another thing, Steve, the emoluments clause.
00:50:27.820
I don't know if you remember that, where they tried to get Trump for taking money from foreign governments or people paying stuff at the Trump Hotel.
00:50:39.560
And then, Steve, the worst one in many ways was Arctic Frost, because that's the one that came, the J-6, the electors issue, the whole controversy over the election.
00:50:51.340
And that one not only went after Trump and Pence, but it did ensnare and cause misery and millions of dollars in costs to a lot of people we know and love.
00:51:01.600
You know, John Eastman and Jeff Clark at the top of the list.
00:51:05.160
There was others, Rudy as well, Jenna Ellis, and so on.
00:51:11.080
Buried the lead, by the way, because the Crossfire Hurricane one was that got Mike Flynn out of government.
00:51:19.620
But the point, I think, is that if you understand the arc of that history, you understand the interconnections in this conspiracy that spanned all the way from Obama and Clinton all the way to the day Donald Trump won this latest election.
00:51:42.100
I'm sure Grassov, Senator Grassov is going to haul him up.
00:51:55.420
It's extraordinary for an extraordinary individual, a fighter.
00:52:02.440
And no, Giordano, he's got to be charged with felonies.
00:52:09.560
He should know that we're working overtime to make sure you do, dude, and all your other colleagues.
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