Bannon's War Room - Episode 4767： MSM Make Excuses For The Brutal Murder In Charlotte

00:00:00.000 know why that man did what he did. We don't know how to deal with people who were hurting in the

00:00:04.760 way this man was hurting. Hurt people hurt people. What happened was horrible. No one

00:00:09.060 mentioned the word race, white, black, or anything except him. The man accused of killing a 23-year-old

00:00:16.060 Ukrainian refugee in Charlotte, North Carolina, was charged with a federal crime. This is an

00:00:23.040 absolutely horrific crime. How do you navigate ensuring that justice is served without allowing

00:00:30.660 this young woman's horrible murder to become hyper-politicized on the national stage?

00:00:35.640 Well, unfortunately, it's been the president who's hyper, you know, has gone crazy with this one

00:00:42.440 murder. And it was tragic. It was horrible. I am glad the feds have stepped in and investigated this

00:00:48.520 to make an example, to show that the federal government is doing something other than just

00:00:53.580 patrolling the southern border, that they are actually doing things to help state and local

00:00:58.600 law enforcement in a community. I think that that's a good thing. And they can use the federal

00:01:04.380 government resources. But the problem you've got, and the president's speech about this,

00:01:08.840 the president's comments about this, was just pandering to a base of folks throwing red meat

00:01:15.280 out there to try to use this for political advantage. That is not appropriate. This is

00:01:19.860 the criminal justice system. Even the defendant is, even although he is on videotape, he's still

00:01:27.020 under, in this country, in the eyes of the law, innocent until proven guilty. But now this has become

00:01:33.300 such a political issue that I, and there's so many others, you know, I wonder, I wonder,

00:01:39.920 Stephanie, would this have been such an issue if this hadn't been a pretty blonde Ukrainian and was 1.00

00:01:46.220 a poor black woman coming in the subway just trying to get home from a domestic help? Would that have 1.00

00:01:52.180 been publicized? I doubt it. I doubt it seriously. And so, you know, I think people have to see this for

00:01:58.300 what it is. It is a tragedy. They're doing what they should be doing. But don't make, don't make it the

00:02:03.980 kind of national issue that we have. Let the local law enforcement do their job. 1.00

00:02:10.300 Most murders in the U.S. never become national news. This one's garnered attention for a couple

00:02:14.760 of reasons. Number one, first and foremost, the recent release of that gruesome video. Second,

00:02:20.180 the energy from pro-Trump activists. They picked up on this video from local news and ran with it.

00:02:25.640 It's a little bit like the times when civil rights groups have raised attention about police-involved

00:02:30.380 shootings. In this case, it is Trump-aligned influencers who are posting up a storm about

00:02:35.360 this case on social media. Really, over the weekend, Elon Musk, Charlie Kirk, other Trump-aligned

00:02:40.420 figures succeeded in making this senseless death a symbol of big city crime. We heard President

00:02:46.460 Trump asked about it yesterday when he was heading home from New York City. He didn't seem to know much

00:02:50.800 about it. He said he would get briefed. And then today, Trump did know all about it. That's exactly

00:02:54.960 what has happened here. This story has trickled up from local news to social media and now to

00:03:00.360 the president's attention. And it's being used, as you said, Brianna, as a political symbol with

00:03:04.260 MAGA media calling for more forceful punishments and more incarceration. I have to say, some of the

00:03:10.020 replies to Musk, some of the comments around this story are baldly racist, stoking fear of African

00:03:15.900 Americans because this man attacked a white woman. The open racism on sites like X today, it's eye

00:03:22.100 popping. But there are also legitimate questions about this so-called career criminal, someone who had

00:03:27.420 been a repeat offender. And those questions, I hope they're not lost amid all of the cesspool

00:03:32.420 kind of comments on social media.

00:03:37.320 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going

00:03:44.540 medieval on these people. You're just not getting a free shot at all these networks lying about

00:03:50.680 the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.

00:03:54.420 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:03:57.420 It's going to happen.

00:03:58.620 And where do people like that go to share the big line? MAGA media. I wish in my soul,

00:04:05.160 I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my

00:04:11.520 purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:04:18.740 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

00:04:22.180 Wednesday, 10 September, Year of Our Lord, 2025. Let's get right into it, because we are fairly

00:04:31.420 packed today from now through the 5 o'clock and 6 o'clock show. Royce White joins us. Royce,

00:04:39.680 what is going on here, particularly guys like Van Jones, former Senator Jones down in Alabama?

00:04:44.700 Uh, what is the state of play in this, uh, this tragedy, sir?

00:04:52.040 It's disgusting. Um, you know, the man should get the death penalty. We should have much harsher 0.97

00:04:57.100 penalty for, for people who we see are, uh, can easily see our guilty. Uh, and, and this is one

00:05:03.940 of those scenarios and, you know, the, the race thing again, and, and Steve, I think you and the

00:05:09.240 War Room have done a great job in trying to include, uh, uh, teach, educate the minority

00:05:14.800 community in America, blacks in America on how to value their citizenship and become a part of the

00:05:19.840 process, precinct strategy and whatnot. But we got to just start calling a spade a spade. It's not

00:05:24.820 racism. When you're successful in the black community, they call it black excellence. They 1.00

00:05:29.420 hold you up as a symbol of the entire black community. When you demonically and violently 0.99

00:05:34.320 kill an innocent, unexpected woman, it said that it's just random, has nothing to do with black 0.99

00:05:39.940 communities or black people or the Democrat run cities. It absolutely does. When you're black and 1.00

00:05:45.040 you're successful, you get rich and everybody moves away from the hood. There's a reason when you get

00:05:50.320 rich, you move away from other Negroes. Pardon my language. You move away from other Negroes because 1.00

00:05:54.980 there's a problem with violence in our community. There's a self-hatred. And in this scenario, it ended up, 0.95

00:06:00.460 uh, you know, represent itself as, as a racial hatred towards this young white, white woman. 0.94

00:06:07.000 Well, what do you mean? Because this is why the, the crime rates, I mean, President Trump's sending

00:06:11.180 the, the troops and, uh, you know, federalized the National Guard in DC. And like I said yesterday,

00:06:15.940 I was with some people on Friday night in Georgetown who are not Trump fans and, um, to a person

00:06:21.940 talking about how, how it's worked here. Uh, and now he's talking about Chicago. It's all this pushback

00:06:27.360 on this. I mean, where do we say we just got the national education report, massive drops in,

00:06:33.440 in reading comprehension, math skills, understanding science, all ties back to the, you know, to the

00:06:39.960 iPhones and the social media. You can see the drop off starting in 2010. Where do we stand with all

00:06:44.960 this? And particularly the populist, nationalist, black working class and middle class, where are they

00:06:52.240 staying on these issues? Well, I think if you asked and you're starting to see it pop up all across

00:06:58.360 the internet, a lot of black people there in DC, there in Chicago and other cities all across the

00:07:02.620 country are saying we need help. You know, we're not going to listen to the, the bourgeois academic

00:07:07.880 celebrities like Van Jones tell us how it is to live in, in the, in the South side of Chicago.

00:07:14.240 Van, where, where's your area code? What neighborhood do you live in, buddy? You're not from,

00:07:18.300 you're not from, uh, you know, North Minneapolis like I am. You didn't grow up playing basketball

00:07:22.800 in the park where you heard gunshots and you had young teenage friends killed and you had to go to

00:07:27.820 those, those wakes and those funerals. You didn't grow up like that. And you certainly don't live

00:07:32.020 like that now. So I think the black, and the, again, after George Floyd, and I'm sorry to go on 0.80

00:07:37.280 Steve, but after George Floyd, there was supposed to be a conversation in this country about black

00:07:43.160 communities taking more responsibility for themselves and exercising what American fundamental ideas

00:07:49.840 are such as self-governance. You give up your right to self-govern. You forfeit the right to

00:07:54.840 self-govern when you let the product of your community be this debauched, be this depraved, 0.80

00:08:00.800 be this, uh, violent and demonic. So, and I, as a, you know, a self-governing American patriot,

00:08:06.660 we want people to self-govern, but you can forfeit that right. And that's what's happened

00:08:10.460 across these cities. I'm, I'm like a third base coach telling a guy to come on home with when it

00:08:14.820 comes to supporting Donald Trump and sending the national guard all across the country. It's not

00:08:19.420 tyranny. It'd be tyranny if there was no reason to send them across the country right now. The 0.63

00:08:24.260 reasons are obvious, uh, in many black communities, van Jones and the rest of the liberal media are

00:08:28.780 lying again. It's a problem. The situation in the crime statistics, the, uh, the gap in wages,

00:08:39.100 the education, you know, the education comprehension. I think a big part of that too is also flooding

00:08:45.280 these schools where minority, where black kids go and Hispanic kids go with illegal, the children 1.00

00:08:51.540 are illegal aliens. So they got to, you know, English as a second language. All the problems 1.00

00:08:56.100 are personified in these big urban areas. Since you have, uh, the van Joneses of the world, you call

00:09:03.120 them the, the black bourgeoisie that is totally tied to the liberal media that kind of promotes 0.64

00:09:08.320 them. What is as a populist and a nationalist, and you're running again for the Senate in,

00:09:14.000 in Minneapolis, you were the Republican candidate last time. Um, and that's a city that's kind

00:09:19.560 of example one of, you know, taking, I don't know, 50,000, a hundred thousand Somalians, right?

00:09:26.760 Over top of the black community. What are the solutions here? If we got to start talking about 1.00

00:09:30.920 problems, what are the solutions? What are your, you're a big Trump supporter. What are your,

00:09:35.380 what are your solutions? And when you talk to the black community?

00:09:40.680 Well, I mean, let's, let's just be upfront. This guy deserves a death penalty. Again, I'll 1.00

00:09:46.460 say it again. We need harsher, harsher penalties. And for the time being, until we're able to take

00:09:52.380 back our, our, our schools from the Marxists and communists and teach people some national

00:09:56.540 honor, some sacred honor, and, and, you know, reprioritize real America education, American

00:10:02.260 Christian based moral based education until as time as we could do that, there have to 0.80

00:10:07.700 be harsher penalties. There have to be more police. There may be, there may need to be

00:10:11.560 the national guard across the country to, to create some calm and some peace and ultimately

00:10:16.160 some healing. I mean, black people need some, some rest. The South side of Chicago is a war 1.00

00:10:21.700 zone. They call it shy rack for a reason. And they brag about it. So part of me doesn't

00:10:25.540 feel bad for the black community, honestly. And I love you, Steve. And I know that there

00:10:28.660 are some real systemic issues that have, have put us in this position, but as a fellow

00:10:33.220 black person who gets a phone call on the weekend, every other weekend about one of my black friends

00:10:39.440 or somebody getting stuck up at gunpoint or having their house broken into some of this 0.96

00:10:43.600 is just the black community in America needs to stop listening to drill rap. We need to stop 1.00

00:10:48.320 promoting and glorifying all of this, you know, this gangster culture. And we need to remember

00:10:53.420 that there's some sacred honor. Our forebearers, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, these people,

00:10:57.180 they'd be rolling over in their graves right now if they could see what, what's become a black 1.00

00:11:00.760 America today.

00:11:03.380 What, what is, why are you going to start seeing politicians actually get elected to office,

00:11:07.700 black politicians that are populist, nationalists like yourselves, and even some of them Christian

00:11:11.680 nationalists that confront, you know, the, the, the, the, really the, the political apparatus

00:11:18.100 that is the black congressional caucus, particularly redistricting. It seems like you're getting

00:11:23.900 more radical voices from the black community, uh, in Congress at the state level, at the city level.

00:11:30.040 I mean, look at these cities, they're, they're, they're out of control. When are, when are, when are,

00:11:34.220 when are you going to see this actually translate to working class black saying, Hey, I can't do this 0.73

00:11:39.760 anymore. Right. I'm, I'm a victim of all this. These politicians have sold me out. Uh, I've got no,

00:11:45.400 you know, I, I, I need to look at other alternatives, sir.

00:11:50.300 Well, well, it's already begun, but again, and I think president Trump and the administration is, is

00:11:55.460 focusing on the, the integrity of these elections and that's going to be important as well. But look at,

00:12:00.180 look at Minneapolis, for example, the Republicans didn't even run a mayoral candidate against Omar

00:12:04.240 Fatay and Jacob Frye because they assume we'll just lose. We will start to take this country back in the

00:12:09.520 inner cities when the rest of the, the, the, the GOP and, and the, the NRSC and these, uh, you know,

00:12:16.500 rhino neocon Republican organizations take your lead and actually reach to these people. These

00:12:21.900 people want to be saved. Look at the woman that the white house put out a video of her. Her son was

00:12:26.380 shot and killed at 23 years old, just going on a date and he never came home. These people exist.

00:12:31.440 We need to go into these communities and empower these people to run for office where they are.

00:12:35.700 Uh, Royce, where do people get you? You've got, uh, social media. You've got the show here on

00:12:42.620 Rav. You've got a podcast that comes on a couple of nights a week. Where do folks go to get your

00:12:46.340 content? Um, Roycewhite.us. That's the Senate website. You can go there and follow up with the,

00:12:52.740 with the campaign. And then, as you said, Real America's Voice Saturday mornings before you and

00:12:57.040 in the war room at the 8 a.m. hour Eastern. Um, and I'm on all social medias. Thanks Steve for having

00:13:02.300 me. I appreciate you, brother. Are you, are you, are you going to take this, uh,

00:13:05.700 are you going to be the nominee again for our, I want our audience to pile in on back in Royce

00:13:10.620 White. Are you going to be the nominee again for the Republicans? We'll, we'll see. They're 0.78

00:13:14.680 running a Nikki Haley slate against me here in Minnesota on the Republican side. The MAGA

00:13:19.200 movement will prevail. We know exactly who Nikki Haley is. Royce, we got about a minute. Uh,

00:13:25.600 are you a Christian nationalist? Proudly. Absolutely. I'm a Catholic nationalist. Be more,

00:13:32.480 more clear. Royce White, uh, social media, where do people go on Twitter? Get her all

00:13:38.780 of it to get you, sir. Uh, Royce White, uh, you, you can find me on every social media platform.

00:13:44.300 I'm, I'm there and, and, uh, I appreciate the time, Steve. Honestly, I hate to, to ramble on about

00:13:49.280 it, but the black community has to, has to find some sacred honor. Stop making excuses. It's not

00:13:54.120 racist. I'm worried to go down into the South side of Chicago because you know, there's going to be

00:13:58.980 gunfire. You just know it. So it's not racist. This man deserves a death penalty and had he,

00:14:03.980 and here's another thing, Steve. It seems that black people hate themselves so much in this 1.00

00:14:09.260 country. Maybe we should start charging as a federal crime when black people kill each other too. 1.00

00:14:15.280 Royce White, honored to have you on here, sir. Thank you. God bless. 0.98

00:14:21.080 Royce was known as an enforcer on the basketball court. One of the great ones helped build the big

00:14:27.500 three league and, uh, great college career, all of it. Okay. Short commercial break. Uh,

00:14:32.840 we got so much to get through. Mary Holland's going to join us. The make America healthy again

00:14:37.500 report yesterday. I think somebody might have dialed it down a tad as the fight on vaccines

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00:16:54.480 now. Sign up for free and be part of the movie. What do you say to parents who had a perfectly

00:16:59.320 healthy child at whatever age, whatever age, you know, 18 months, two years, whatever,

00:17:05.440 take their child in to get a vaccine or multiple vaccines. They come home, that child has a severe

00:17:14.220 fever, seizures, never utters another word. Ends up being 20 years old, so frustrated

00:17:23.400 what do you say to those parents who have that? I know it's anecdotal. I know it doesn't prove

00:17:32.080 causation, but what would you think? If you're a parent, perfectly healthy child, talking, developing

00:17:38.960 great vaccine. What do you say to those parents? Are they just making it up? Because I get that's

00:17:48.460 what's being denied. That's what I've seen. As I've gotten involved in this, starting with

00:17:53.100 the COVID injection injuries, they're still being denied because nobody wants to have to

00:17:58.140 deal with it. Nobody wants to admit they're wrong if you're a doctor and you suggested that

00:18:04.400 injection or these vaccines. You don't want to admit that maybe that wasn't right for that

00:18:09.580 person. And society, trust me, doesn't want to bear the costs. I mean, the cost of compensating

00:18:20.540 vaccine and injection injured, again, I'm a fiscal hawk. We're worth $37 trillion in debt. That's

00:18:27.000 a problem. So again, in all honesty, what do you say to those parents that have that experience?

00:18:32.600 I truly sympathize with my patients, and I would truly sympathize with that parent. And I would try to

00:18:38.720 understand everything I could about that particular case. And I would take it very seriously. And I

00:18:46.340 would sympathize. It sounds like you'd have an open mind. Yes. And honestly, that's all I'm asking.

00:18:54.380 I think that's all that anybody in this community is asking. Please, God, have an open mind. Help us

00:19:02.460 discover the cause. It's just that pent up frustration of we've been ignored. We've been gaslit.

00:19:08.720 We've been vilified. That's the problem. RFK, his new Make America Healthy Again report,

00:19:16.140 it was officially released. There are 128 separate recommendations about things like vaccines and

00:19:22.720 nutrition, but almost no specifics on any of it. How's Capitol Hill reacting to this?

00:19:30.020 Yeah, not only just short on specifics, but doesn't even go far in some of the things that initially

00:19:34.520 were promised with Maha, like cracking down on regulations and trying to force these big

00:19:41.000 industries to actually reckon with some of the things that they're trying to do, which sound

00:19:45.280 really good in theory, right? Trying to make kids more healthy, trying to get the bad stuff out of our

00:19:50.840 food. But when you really dig into this report, so much of it is just light on specifics, things that

00:19:56.540 the administration has already done. Or in some cases, there was a focus on vaccines and going after

00:20:02.560 vaccines and suggesting that kids are getting too many vaccines and that's contributing to why

00:20:07.240 children are sick. So while on its face, again, it sounds like it could be something bipartisan and

00:20:12.220 maybe they had this really rare opportunity coming into this administration for the Maha movement to do

00:20:17.300 something bipartisan. Instead, they have used that as sort of, you know, a Trojan armor almost to come in

00:20:24.640 and try to attack vaccines. That is something that is deeply concerning, not just for Democrats,

00:20:29.900 but also for some Republicans on Capitol Hill. Next week, there's going to be a hearing with the

00:20:33.900 fired CDC director so we can see whether things really the rubber meets the road on Capitol Hill there.

00:20:41.620 That's going to be pretty intense. Mary Holland joins us. Mary, you were actually over in the 0.98

00:20:46.180 hearings. I want to get to that in a second. Let's take the report first. Do you think the report,

00:20:51.920 because this was supposed to be the battle plan and the map, do you think it was watered down or

00:20:57.000 like some of the concerns about maybe they weren't, there were 128 recommendations, but not a lot of

00:21:02.500 specificity around it. Is it because they're still thinking that through? Do you think it was watered

00:21:07.580 down given the reception that Secretary Kennedy and the headhunters over at the Democrats, you know,

00:21:15.060 the Pfizer core over in the Democrat Senate side that the, cause we were supposed to have two

00:21:21.820 things. Number one, the Maha report, which is look at the whole battlefield. And number two,

00:21:26.680 the autism report that'll come out at the end of September. Do you think that make America healthy

00:21:32.500 again, uh, battle plan, the report, uh, was a little dialed down, ma'am?

00:21:38.000 Uh, Steve, it's consistent with the diagnostic report that they came out with in April. Uh,

00:21:45.920 you know, this, this was an executive order from January. Then there was the site sort of

00:21:49.860 diagnostic make America healthy again commission. This is what we're going to look at. This was the

00:21:55.340 battle plan. You're right. This was the strategy. My sense of it is that, um, there's a reason why

00:22:01.480 it's light on specifics. I don't believe that secretary Kennedy or the commission, uh, is any

00:22:07.760 less committed to the idea of really turning around the trajectory that this country is on.

00:22:12.700 People are getting sicker. We're spending more money. We're living shorter lives and we have more

00:22:18.220 chronic disease. So what this is, is a declaration of war on chronic disease. And yeah, it's light on

00:22:25.540 specifics. That doesn't really trouble me. Um, given that I think Kennedy is absolutely committed

00:22:31.620 to this goal and is working with this bigger team in agriculture and EPA in all of these different

00:22:37.860 divisions in veterans affairs, uh, to move forward. It's a radical shift in a perspective on public

00:22:44.740 health. Remember that for the last 50 years, a pill for every ill, you know, more pesticides,

00:22:50.320 more pills, more, uh, drugs, more vaccines has been the, the, the course it's been the mantra.

00:22:57.440 So I'm not discouraged. I'm encouraged that, uh, things are moving forward.

00:23:04.060 Um, yesterday, two events, by the way, Grace and Mo, if you can please, um, I think I posted

00:23:10.380 yesterday, but let's, I want to put the entire report out. Everybody in the audience should read

00:23:14.460 it. Uh, we're going to break it down. Um, if not later in the week, then early next week,

00:23:20.320 cause we've got the live shows in, uh, New York, which I'll talk about in a little while.

00:23:24.060 Uh, I want to break the report down so people understand it is a strategy. It's a kind of

00:23:27.880 a battle plan. Um, and it'll drive where secretary Kennedy's taken us in the make America healthy

00:23:34.460 again. Yesterday, I want to connect two dots cause I don't think either of them got enough

00:23:39.180 coverage. One was present on this proclamation or this new executive order to really go after

00:23:44.320 to begin to go after, uh, TV advertising of big pharma, which essentially controls MSNBC

00:23:51.880 and CNN. Um, coupled with this hearing of Ron Johnson, Ron Johnson has been a hero throughout

00:23:57.860 this because he's a guy that came to this, you know, during COVID with really no background,

00:24:02.360 right? He's really an entrepreneur focuses more in debt and deficit. So talk to me yesterday,

00:24:07.100 you were there. It was, I told the guys in the middle of the day, our team, uh, you know,

00:24:11.920 with grace and Mo and Cameron, the whole thing. I said, this hearing is one of the wildest hearings

00:24:17.360 I've ever seen. Right. And Blumenthal did sit then came back for Tulsa. So connected dots there.

00:24:22.920 What happened yesterday with this hearing, uh, under Senator Johnson and president Trump with

00:24:28.040 secretary Kennedy starting to drop the hammer on big pharma. Yeah. Well, it was a shame Steve that

00:24:34.000 they were scheduled at the same time that that was unfortunate. Um, the change around direct

00:24:39.180 to consumer advertising is, is really big. So what I heard secretary Kennedy say is he's reinstating

00:24:44.920 the 1997 rules, which means that the pharma has to include all of the side effects in their

00:24:51.700 advertisements. And presumably they will apply that to biologics, to vaccines, as well as just

00:24:56.920 to drugs right now. They don't do that with vaccines. When the, when the pharmaceutical company

00:25:01.200 has to give a list of 50 known side effects for every product, which is probably about right.

00:25:06.980 Uh, it's going to be very discouraging to advertising on TV, which is a good, it's a

00:25:11.940 beachhead, right? It's the beginning of the process. So the hearing with Ron Johnson was

00:25:16.220 literally Steve, you know, one of the first hearings in 20 years on vaccines and autism.

00:25:22.580 And it was two very able people that Ron Johnson had put their, uh, attorney Aaron Seery and

00:25:28.940 scholar Toby Rogers, uh, and, and public sort of public intellectual, if you will. And a physician

00:25:34.780 who was nominated by Senator Blumenthal, Dr. Jake Scott, and, and what was so extraordinary

00:25:41.300 on display, Steve, was that this, this poor doctor, who's a clinician associated with Stanford

00:25:47.460 Medical School, he knows nothing about vaccines. He basically knew nothing about the COVID injections

00:25:55.220 and his ignorance. And yet his sort of elevated self view, his arrogance of like, I'm a doctor

00:26:02.420 and I know best was on display. And, and for everybody in that room, a lot of whom have

00:26:07.340 vaccine injured kids or been in this movement for 20 plus years, as I have every single person

00:26:12.500 in that audience knew more than that physician. And it was on display. And, um, it was, it was

00:26:19.420 just extraordinary. And as you say, Senator Ron Johnson is a hero to this movement. And, and

00:26:26.220 he really has given this attention and given it care and given it thought he understands how deep

00:26:32.260 this is as does secretary Kennedy. And they've really been allied. And secretary Kennedy also

00:26:37.140 came out yesterday saying, we are going to pay attention to the vaccine injured. It is important,

00:26:42.980 Steve, that this rapid escalation in, uh, chronic disease, especially among children is at the same

00:26:50.820 time. It's in parallel to this explosive rise of vaccines. You cannot say there is no plausible

00:26:57.100 connection and it's more than plausible. And in fact, one of the centerpieces of the hearing yesterday

00:27:02.580 was discussion of a, of a study that's never been published, but it was done by a group of doctors

00:27:08.180 at the Henry Ford center in Detroit, Michigan, explicitly to show that vaccinated children are

00:27:13.980 healthier. But in fact, it showed that they're two and a half times more likely to have a chronic

00:27:19.660 disease condition, including autism, asthma, ADHD, allergies, et cetera. It's never been published.

00:27:26.380 Ron Johnson learned about it from Aaron Siri and Dale Bigtree. And he was like, I am going to blow the

00:27:31.580 whistle on this. I'm going to make this study available. So I haven't, I'm looking at the study

00:27:36.620 right now. We're all going to be looking at it, but we are now at the beginning of a truth telling that

00:27:43.100 it has never happened in the world around what vaccines are really doing.

00:27:48.060 Mary, can you hang on one second? I want to talk to Blumenthal and the, uh, and the expert he

00:27:54.620 brought in plus the Detroit thing one more time. It's so important. Um, the battles engage with big

00:27:59.980 pharma and one side is going to win here and one side is going to lose. No doubt about that.

00:28:06.540 They are one of the institutions that control the imperial capital by funneling the profits back to

00:28:13.020 politicians so that they are their, um, their spokesmodels. Short commercial break. Laura Loomer,

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00:31:16.540 to you. Uh, Mary Holland real quickly, just give me the Detroit thing again. It's kind of a bombshell.

00:31:23.100 Johnson's a very smart guy. Probably one of the best entrepreneurs we've got in the Senate

00:31:26.780 are really on Capitol Hill. Just quickly, the Detroit report, which they've, they've, they've rubbed our

00:31:33.660 nose in for years as proving. I thought vaccines worked. You're saying it's actually shows they don't.

00:31:40.780 Yeah. So, um, apparently back before 2020, um, Del Bigtree and Aaron Seery met with the head

00:31:49.180 infectious disease doctor there, Dr. Zervos, and convinced him to do a study, a retrospective study

00:31:57.020 of vaccinated and unvaccinated children. I think it's 16,000 vaccinated, 2,000 unvaccinated. Look at all

00:32:03.500 their medical records, really do a deep dive to see, and they wanted to prove that the vaccinated

00:32:09.500 children were healthier. Lo and behold, what it showed is data that's very consistent with things

00:32:14.700 that we've published at Children's Health Defense, the meta-analyses we've done. The vaccinated children

00:32:19.820 were considerably less healthy. They were, they may had more doctor's visits and they had two and a

00:32:25.420 half times, 250% more chronic disease conditions than the unvaccinated. The unvaccinated kids had no

00:32:32.860 cases of ADHD, no cases of autism, but they did sometimes have asthma. They had some allergies. They

00:32:39.020 would go to the doctors when they were sick. This study, because it went against the narrative, because

00:32:44.700 this Dr. Zervos and his team didn't want to lose their jobs, as was likely to happen if they were to

00:32:50.220 publish this because they would suddenly become anti-vaxxers, they didn't ever publish this study. And

00:32:55.980 apparently when Aaron Seery, in anticipation of testifying, explained that this had happened

00:33:01.260 to Ron Johnson, Ron Johnson said, I'm going to take this on myself. You know what? I trust that these

00:33:07.260 people won't lose their job given this publicity, but this is too important. Over 200 kids, it was 290

00:33:14.220 kids a day, Steve, are diagnosed with autism in this country. It's an outrage what has happened. And

00:33:21.260 frankly, what we do know is that the federal government, the CDC, absolutely knew about this

00:33:27.180 from 2000. We can talk about that another time. But they had a closed-door meeting called Simpsonwood,

00:33:32.620 where they really were discussing how do we hide the data. So this is a great new study. I'm really

00:33:40.060 excited. It was unpublished. It hasn't yet been peer-reviewed. I'm hopeful that it will be peer-reviewed,

00:33:44.700 and it will be published. And it is important. It is a big study over many years comparing vaccinated

00:33:51.100 and unvaccinated children's health conditions. Remember, if it was not for Seery, Aaron Seery,

00:33:56.700 and Dale Bigtree, we would have never gotten to the data from Pfizer and big pharma, the Pfizer

00:34:01.740 papers, all of it, all of your work, the 3,500 war room posse that worked under Naomi Wolf and

00:34:08.220 Amy Kelly over at Daily Cloud. We've never gotten any of this. It was not for those guys. So real quickly,

00:34:13.420 that to me was the tell, because Blumenthal's all in on this, right? How did he come? It was a tell

00:34:18.940 that they couldn't get an expert, because you know they talked to 1,000 people to have somebody

00:34:25.100 in that chair. They said no mas, none of the quote-unquote experts. They sent a guy that

00:34:29.420 really didn't know much about it. Steve, that's what's so extraordinary. We were all sort of saying,

00:34:34.140 who were in the audience, like, this is the best that they could come up with. You know,

00:34:38.300 so Offit seems to be off of their rate, you know, not on their list. Peter Hotez, off of their list.

00:34:43.820 Dorit Rice, off of their list. These were the people that they, the puppets that they would

00:34:47.980 put up over the last 20 years. So they brought in this new guy. This guy had been putting together

00:34:52.380 a database to prove that Bobby Kennedy, the secretary, was wrong about inert use of placebos

00:34:58.380 for the childhood schedule. Aaron Seary decimated him on this, that he didn't even know his own studies

00:35:04.140 in his database. And he, Aaron Seary disproved what he said is that there have been all these double

00:35:10.060 blind placebo-controlled studies. No, there haven't been. They've never used a true inert

00:35:14.940 placebo for any vaccine on the childhood schedule, let alone for the schedule as a whole. So it was,

00:35:22.860 you know, they don't have anybody to defend this, Steve. That is what's so astonishing. Typically,

00:35:28.460 they won't show up on the same stage. They won't debate it. And what I feel like now is that the

00:35:34.220 mantra has to be, if Kennedy's wrong, prove it. If Siri and Rogers are wrong, prove it. And they

00:35:41.740 can't, Steve. So they are backed into a corner right now. And you're right. Either big pharma

00:35:47.260 is going to win on this vaccine everybody has to follow the mandate, or they're going to lose

00:35:52.480 spectacularly. And we are coming closer to that. They're still trying to knock Secretary Kennedy out

00:35:58.060 of the box. No question about that. All of the Democrats last Thursday on the Senate Finance

00:36:03.020 Committee signed a letter that he should resign. I wasn't aware until just now that there's a

00:36:08.380 hearing next week with the dismissed director of CDC. That's going to be an interesting one.

00:36:14.060 But this is a fight. This is pretty much, it's not a fight to the finish to keep pharma going,

00:36:20.060 but it's a fight to the finish about, did they get to essentially buy legislators to mandate

00:36:25.260 products that have no liability? That has to be fought to the finish.

00:36:29.580 No, this is going to be, no, I think Hotez and those guys told them, I think they went to them, 0.99

00:36:36.460 they told them, nah, I don't want to do that. They're losing the ability of people to stand in

00:36:42.380 the breach here and fight us, which is a great first start when you can see victory if we just

00:36:48.620 continue to press on. Mary, where do people go to get all your guys' great content?

00:36:52.220 Uh, please come to childrenshealthdefense.org. Follow us at Children's HD. Children's HD.

00:36:59.100 Uh, and we've got a fantastic conference coming up. Steve, I hope you're going to be with us.

00:37:03.980 Uh, November 7 to 9 in Austin, Texas. It's going to be really fantastic.

00:37:08.620 Of course we're going to be there. Probably live broadcast from there.

00:37:11.980 Come on. This is one of the fight of the ages.

00:37:14.220 We're counting on it. One thing the war room loves is fights against long odds. That's where

00:37:21.340 we're at our best man. We've got that Steve. No, that's long odds. Okay. Thank you, ma'am.

00:37:28.380 Appreciate you. Thank you. The great, it took the great Laura Loomer to alert the nation of what 0.97

00:37:35.660 really happened last night. Let's go and play these clips. When I saw it, I was like, what the F is going

00:37:43.340 on here? Took Laura Loomer to make it a national discussion topic. Let's play the clips and bring 0.98

00:37:48.860 Laurie in.

00:37:50.860 Enjoy your dinner.

00:37:52.860 Free DC, Free Palestine! 1.00

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00:38:12.860 Trump is the Hitler of our time, free DC, free Palestine, Trump is the Hitler of our 1.00

00:38:28.860 time. 1.00

00:38:29.860 Trump is the Hitler of our time, free DC, free Palestine, Trump is the Hitler of our time.

00:38:42.860 What do you want your legacy to be?

00:38:43.860 Let's go.

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00:38:54.860 Free DC, free Palestine, Trump is the Hitler of our time.

00:39:07.860 Folks, we were in a situation last night that Polly Pockets, Mike Johnson, could have been

00:39:14.860 the president of these United States this morning.

00:39:16.860 And I'm not kidding you.

00:39:18.860 Laura Loomer joins us.

00:39:20.860 Laura, it's so many.

00:39:22.860 First off, it's not that there weren't many important people there.

00:39:25.860 The president of the United States, the vice president of the United States, Secretary of

00:39:30.860 State Rubio and Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth.

00:39:33.860 Those four individuals right there.

00:39:36.860 How did this happen?

00:39:38.860 And are some heads going to roll on this?

00:39:41.860 Since McKinley was, what, shot by the Polish anarchist, I don't believe any hostile individual

00:39:48.860 has gotten this close physically to a president of the United States.

00:39:52.860 And you could tell President Trump was a little shocked there.

00:39:54.860 And these, explain who these people are, how radical, and how the frick did this happen,

00:39:59.860 ma'am?

00:40:00.860 Yeah, Steve.

00:40:01.860 Well, thanks so much for having me on.

00:40:04.860 This happened last night at around 10 p.m. when President Trump was leaving Joe Stonecrab,

00:40:11.860 which is a popular Democrat hangout spot for the elites.

00:40:16.860 I mean, look, everybody can go to Joe Stonecrab.

00:40:19.860 But this restaurant was infamous for hosting Obama and Biden and a lot of high level Democrat

00:40:28.860 lobbyists.

00:40:29.860 Generally speaking, Republicans get their food to go.

00:40:32.860 That being said, President Trump went in for this kind of impromptu dinner with members

00:40:38.860 of his cabinet, as you said.

00:40:40.860 But as we all know, Steve, nothing is truly ever impromptu with the president of the United

00:40:45.860 States because, well, you have to have a Secret Service detail.

00:40:48.860 They have to do a sweep.

00:40:49.860 They have to make sure that nobody is waiting inside to attack or harm the physical well-being

00:40:55.860 of the president of the United States.

00:40:57.860 However, if you look at this video, you see a group of women. 1.00

00:41:01.860 They have now admitted that they are from Code Pink, a radical pro-Hamas, pro-CCP, pro-Iranian 0.62

00:41:10.860 group that calls themselves an anti-war group.

00:41:12.860 There's been calls to kick them out of Congress because they constantly hang out on a permanent

00:41:18.860 basis inside the cafeteria of the Capitol.

00:41:22.860 And they wait for members of Congress and they ambush them on video.

00:41:26.860 And through my own investigation-

00:41:27.860 Hold on, hang on, hang on.

00:41:28.860 Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. 0.69

00:41:30.860 You know it's a setup.

00:41:31.860 Joni Evans, was it Joni Evans and Medea Benjamin?

00:41:34.860 Yes.

00:41:35.860 They're two of the most radical individuals.

00:41:37.860 Andrew Breitbart fought these people 15 years ago.

00:41:39.860 I mean, this was Andrew Breitbart's big nemesis.

00:41:42.860 They can't be more radical and they also can't be more dialed in.

00:41:46.860 They're dialed in everywhere because of the billionaire husband, right?

00:41:49.860 They're dialed in everywhere because, well, this is the thing.

00:41:51.860 So if you recall the violent LA riots that were taking place a couple months ago where

00:41:56.860 President Trump had to send in the National Guard for these raids on illegal alien criminal

00:42:02.860 invaders, it was brought to light that Naveel Singman was funding these violent riots.

00:42:08.860 Who is Naveel Singman?

00:42:09.860 Naveel Singman is a CCP propagandist.

00:42:12.860 He spends his time between Los Angeles and Beijing.

00:42:15.860 He is the second husband of Jody Evans, who is the co-founder of Code Pink.

00:42:20.860 He is a billionaire.

00:42:21.860 And it's worth noting that Medea Benjamin comes from the very wealthy Benjamin family,

00:42:27.860 big real estate family in the New York area.

00:42:30.860 And so these people, they might look grungy.

00:42:33.860 They might look kind of downtrodden and they might look like, you know, your typical leftist

00:42:37.860 purple haired freaks, but they are very well funded.

00:42:40.860 And so, you know, when you look at the implications of this, not only does it show that there's

00:42:45.860 a lack of security within the Secret Service, something that is of grave concern given the

00:42:52.860 fact that President Trump has now survived two assassination attempts, the trial for Ryan

00:42:57.860 Ralph, the individual in Palm Beach who tried to assassinate President Trump began yesterday.

00:43:02.860 We still don't have a full briefing on the Butler report has not been released to the public.

00:43:07.860 And yet we know that the Iranians have tried to assassinate President Trump on more than 0.95

00:43:12.860 one occasion.

00:43:13.860 Why do I bring this up?

00:43:14.860 Well, because the individuals in this video and Code Pink founders are on video and in

00:43:20.860 photographs traveling to Iran to meet with leaders of the regime themselves.

00:43:25.860 And when you look at the fact that they are funded by the CCP and this massive shift towards

00:43:30.860 multipolarity.

00:43:31.860 I mean, you have to ask yourself, was this a foreign hit or an intelligence track President

00:43:35.860 Trump?

00:43:36.860 Was this an inside job from somebody at the White House making his itinerary?

00:43:41.860 Hang on for one second.

00:43:42.860 We'll take a short break.

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00:45:09.860 The President was there, this impromptu, to show the safety of the streets in D.C. and it's happened.

00:45:20.860 You know, the restaurants are coming back, etc., etc.

00:45:22.860 I do take umbrage a little bit with Laura on about Republicans and Democrats.

00:45:28.220 It's known as at least an order outplace for Republicans, but I wouldn't trust the security over there to go sit down and eat.

00:45:36.220 Laura Loomer, you tweeted last night and you're not overstating the case.

00:45:40.320 You're not being hyperbolic.

00:45:42.880 Folks, this morning, we could have had Polly Pockets, Mike Johnson as president of the United States.

00:45:50.060 You had the president, you had the vice president, you had Pete Hexas, secretary of war, and you had Secretary of State Marco Rubio.

00:46:00.640 And Pete, and I think Marco, at least Pete just back from being with the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff down in Puerto Rico about what's happening in the Gulf of America and off of Venezuela.

00:46:10.200 You had the national, basically the national military command, the civilian part of it right there with a secret service that you have to say is asleep at the switch.

00:46:20.080 Why that place was not scoured and particularly these code pink types know who's in the thing and turf them out if they're there is shocking. 1.00

00:46:29.380 And they were just feet away from the president with steak knives and glasses right there, ma'am.

00:46:36.020 Yeah, look, I mean, I pointed it out and I think that's even Susie Wiles in the back, too, if you go and you show that other angle of the video.

00:46:42.920 So not just the cabinet members, I haven't seen that angle, but in the video that you just showed before you showed the tweet on the screen, I think that's even Susie Wiles.

00:46:51.500 And so you have the chief of staff. I mean, you could have taken out, looks like, majority of the cabinet.

00:46:57.040 And then you're right. As I tweeted last night, we would have had Mike Johnson as our president this morning, God forbid.

00:47:03.420 But I do want to say something else, and it needs to be said.

00:47:06.660 It is what now almost 11 a.m. Eastern.

00:47:10.920 And we have not heard a statement or seen any type of statement from DHS Secretary Kirstie Noem, who, technically speaking, is in charge of Secret Service.

00:47:22.220 I mean, and so where was DHS Secretary Kirstie Noem as President Trump was being berated by foreign agents from Code Pink?

00:47:28.260 Oh, that's right. She was with U.K. Home Secretary and jihadi sympathizer Shabana Mahmoud.

00:47:34.520 I mean, so you have these jihadi lunatics just inches away from President Trump. 1.00

00:47:40.580 They could have thrown a steak knife at his heart and stabbed him to death or cut his jugular with a piece of sharp glass. 0.99

00:47:46.680 I mean, look, there's how come Secret Service isn't immediately whisking him away or tackling these women to the ground? 0.99

00:47:53.520 Look at that. She has a knife. Exactly. Why were they? Why are they not?

00:47:56.220 They said it's over now. Why were they not thrown right to the ground and cuffed right there and dragged off to a not to D.C. Metro?

00:48:03.200 So go ahead. It gets worse. So where was Kirstie Noem yesterday when all of this was going down?

00:48:10.600 And again, she has not issued a statement. She was with U.K. Home Secretary and jihadi sympathizer Shabana Mahmoud.

00:48:17.940 OK, she is a literal sympathizer for the globalized, the intifada movement.

00:48:24.760 And so why is why is Secretary why is Secretary Noem legitimizing jihadi sympathizers who are calling for the Islamification of the West?

00:48:35.080 There's photos of her with Shabana Mahmoud all over Twitter.

00:48:38.300 And she hasn't even issued a statement about this. So this is the problem. Right.

00:48:42.400 We don't have a Republican Party. And I hate to say it.

00:48:45.220 Even people within the cabinet of the Trump administration, they don't have what it takes to call out the threat of Islam in America. 0.99

00:48:52.340 And we are about to witness a Muslim communist from Africa take over New York City, Steve, the largest city in America. 1.00

00:49:02.020 And we're going to see copycats all across the country. Why do I bring this up?

00:49:06.360 Because if you think if you think that this is going to be an outlier, what we saw happen to President Trump last night, that's going to happen to every single non-Muslim in our country. 0.98

00:49:16.460 You are going to be harassed by these jihadists when you go out to eat. Our politicians are going to face threats of assassination from these Palestinian lunatics who are calling for globalized the intifada and calling for jihad against anybody that doesn't want to support a Palestinian state. 0.98

00:49:31.640 We saw it last weekend in Detroit, Michigan, with the People's Conference for Palestine.

00:49:36.320 And I just want to know, what is it going to take for the Trump administration to take these jihadis seriously?

00:49:43.540 We hear talks about revoking their visas, right? But what is it going to take?

00:49:48.120 We already saw a Palestinian murder two Jewish people, a beautiful young couple outside the D.C. Jewish Museum.

00:49:55.260 What makes them think that these people aren't going to assassinate the president?

00:49:58.700 I mean, hello, we've already had political assassinations in our country at the hands of Palestinians. 1.00

00:50:03.720 Last night, last night, they should have been thrown to the floor, cuffed and and taken not to the D.C. metro, but to a federal prison.

00:50:10.660 To allow that to happen that close to the president of the United States.

00:50:13.460 And remember, they're holding up Luigi as a as a hero.

00:50:17.520 If they had done something to the president last night, all over left wing media, you would have seen these people as a hero.

00:50:23.080 Laura, what do you look what are you what are you looking for out of at a we got about a minute here?

00:50:31.020 What are you looking for out of Christie?

00:50:32.300 No, by the way, I keep saying there's going to be a civil war in the U.K.

00:50:35.680 because you have Sadiq Khan as as the mayor of London.

00:50:39.280 The same thing is going to happen in New York.

00:50:40.680 But I might add, Laura, you know, with all you're coming in hot on this, the polling shows 60 percent of young Jewish people under the age of 30 are going to vote for Ma'am Donnie.

00:50:52.220 And I think a third of his staff are young Jewish professionals.

00:50:55.220 So this is all happening out in daylight.

00:50:58.600 New York's going to be just like London in 10 years.

00:51:00.780 This is the actual real threat.

00:51:03.320 And it's people and now all the big donors and all the big corporations in New York City are bending the knee to Ma'am Dami, just like they did in London to bend the knee to Sadiq Khan, ma'am.

00:51:14.520 Well, look, it's a tale as old as time.

00:51:16.600 Only 20 percent of the Jews left Egypt.

00:51:18.880 That is a real statistic. 0.72

00:51:20.440 And so unfortunately, it appears that there is a severe mental illness or a mental deficiency or some type of, you know, genetic malfunction within 80 percent of the Jewish community. 0.59

00:51:30.520 And I say that as a Jew myself, they they they vote against their own interests. 0.90

00:51:34.860 They have suicidal empathy.

00:51:36.480 They stand with jihadists who openly call for their eradication.

00:51:40.260 And and look, first, they what do they say?

00:51:44.600 They first they come for the Saturday people, then they come for the Sunday people.

00:51:47.700 It is time for Americans to unite over the threat of this global jihad.

00:51:53.480 If the U.K. falls, the U.S. is next.

00:51:55.580 You don't just have Ma'am Dami and Sadiq Khan.

00:51:58.460 But as I as I just pointed out, you also have Shabana Mahmood. 0.71

00:52:02.840 How can the United States continue to share intelligence with the United Kingdom through the Five Eyes program when you have a literal jihadi Muslim in charge of of of of the U.K.'s the U.K.'s intelligence agency now? 1.00

00:52:17.460 We've got to bounce. We've got to bounce.

00:52:19.220 What's your social media?

00:52:20.280 I'm looking for you to.

00:52:21.580 You got to follow me on X at Laura Loomer.

00:52:25.240 Follow me on X at Laura Loomer.

00:52:26.860 Tweet at Kirstie Noem.

00:52:28.240 Call for an immediate investigation and review of Secret Service and ask her to issue a statement about this instead of rubbing elbows with jihadi Muslims from the U.K.'s. 1.00

00:52:39.720 Laura, we watching through the day.

00:52:41.580 I'm sure Secretary Kirstie Noem will put out something.

00:52:44.040 We'll look forward to you putting up on your platform.

00:52:47.480 Thank you, ma'am.

00:52:48.420 And thanks for making this a national issue.

00:52:51.400 What happened last night at Joe's what steak and crab or stone crab?

00:52:56.520 Unacceptable to put the president in harm's way like that.

00:53:00.960 Unacceptable.

00:53:01.860 Short break.

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Bannon's War Room - September 10, 2025

Episode 4767： MSM Make Excuses For The Brutal Murder In Charlotte

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