Bannon's War Room - September 12, 2025


Episode 4774： Cutting Out The Cancer From The Political Process


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

153.47153

Word Count

8,309

Sentence Count

689

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary

In this episode, Criminologist Casey Jordan and Associate Professor of Criminology at the University of Utah, Dr. Chris Van Hardsen, discuss the most recent mass shooting in Utah, and what we know about the suspect, Tyler Robinson.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 here these last 72 hours. Von Hilliard, thank you, everyone. Please stay close. And joining us now
00:00:05.020 is criminologist Casey Jordan. Casey, so much happening so quickly here this morning. We're
00:00:10.300 learning as well from our own reporting that there's no indication of a prior criminal record.
00:00:15.980 This is according to searches of state national public records associated with the person
00:00:20.320 Tyler Robinson and his date of birth. One of the most striking details that we learned
00:00:25.320 from this press conference were, again, about those bullet casings and the inscriptions,
00:00:30.140 hey, fascist, the words, Bella Chow, the words, if you read this, you are gay.
00:00:34.340 What do you see as the significance or what the message is that he's trying to communicate here?
00:00:42.080 Really, I would need to actually see these words in the way that they are on the bullet casings and
00:00:47.080 the gun to make a proper interpretation. But just knowing what those words are, I'm kind of
00:00:52.580 overwhelmed with how immature it all sounds and that there is no really chronic theme. I think
00:00:59.320 Brandy really nailed it. You have to make of it what you want because, you know, it's like sees
00:01:03.400 bulges. If you're reading this, you're gay. You know, catch this fascist or hey, fascist, catch.
00:01:09.400 It's like the rantings of a really immature child. And we really need to learn a lot more about what was
00:01:16.080 going on in this accused shooter's life when all of this was happening. Was he in a rabbit hole?
00:01:22.820 Was he did he have no job? Do you have no purpose? You know, how did he become such a consumer of hate
00:01:29.880 that his family reports? He was he was, you know, talking in with hate speech about his feelings about
00:01:37.380 the victim just at the family dinner the night before. We get the impression he didn't live at home
00:01:42.780 because they talk about the discord messages with his roommate. But they also confirmed he is not
00:01:48.700 a college student at the university where the crime happened. So I will be very interested to
00:01:54.040 reconstruct what was going on in his life. Did he have a job? Did he go to school? Was he fired from
00:02:00.060 a job? Did he apply to jobs and he was not, you know, hired? Did he, you know, have just smoldering
00:02:06.380 hate? Mostly my takeaway is that the writings on the gun and on the bullets really emulate everything we
00:02:12.620 just saw a few weeks ago in the Minnesota Catholic school shooting. So I don't think this has been
00:02:17.900 a long term plan. I think it probably was hatched when this alleged shooter heard that Charlie Kirk
00:02:24.860 was coming to the area, his area in his backyard at a university that he could easily access passes
00:02:32.500 at a college student there, go up on the roofs. I mean, I have to tell you, I teach at a university
00:02:38.980 where I see students going up on the roofs all the time. So he had a lot of access to the venue
00:02:47.060 and he blended and he knew he would blend. But I do think that this was something that just hatched
00:02:52.220 when he found out that this man that he harbored hate for was coming to his area. And since we just
00:02:59.080 had that school shooting in Minnesota, I think that is probably what inspired it. Chris, we have a
00:03:03.780 cursory sketch of this suspect, but there's a lot that we don't know that we'll want to know in the
00:03:08.240 coming days. But what we do know is that he did not attend the university where the shooting took
00:03:12.660 place, but he did attend Utah State University for one semester, the university confirms, before
00:03:18.780 dropping out. His parents own a stately $600,000 six bedroom home in suburban Utah in a mostly
00:03:26.700 Republican area, but he's not registered with any particular party. He's listed as unaffiliated.
00:03:32.840 So we don't know much about his upbringing or what kind of person he was. We're left with
00:03:37.780 essentially what authorities have told us that he expressed animosity for Charlie Kirk and that
00:03:43.540 he seems to be marinating in meme culture based on the engravings that he allegedly put on the
00:03:50.780 ammunition and including an anti-fascist song and messages. And we know that according to authorities,
00:04:00.660 he shared with his roommate messages about hiding a rifle. So there appears to be strong
00:04:06.180 evidence linking him to this crime, but there isn't a lot of information right now about why
00:04:10.980 he did it, what kind of person he was. We don't know whether he had any mental health issues.
00:04:16.020 There doesn't appear to be any criminal record, but criminal records are incomplete in this country.
00:04:19.880 It's difficult to know just hours after an incident, but he doesn't appear to have had any
00:04:24.000 significant interaction with authorities. So look, there's a lot of people will make a lot of
00:04:31.200 this. He was on the left and this is being called a political assassination. But what we've seen time
00:04:36.940 and again with mass shootings and other kinds of violence is that we've seen alienated people who
00:04:42.420 become radicalized online. Sometimes they've become radicalized to terrorism. Sometimes they
00:04:47.040 become radicalized to right-wing violence. In this case, it looks like he was radicalized on the left of
00:04:51.620 the political spectrum, but there's a lot more we need to know about his mental health and state
00:04:56.000 of mind before we can make conclusions about what the motive here was and what was really going on.
00:05:00.760 From 2018 to 2024, assailants with hard right or white supremacists or related ideologies
00:05:11.400 were responsible for the plurality of political homicides in the United States. 2020 though,
00:05:20.520 for the first time in years, disquiescence ended and we started seeing from the left wing and from the
00:05:27.180 limited information that's out today, it looks like with some of the statements that were made and some
00:05:33.300 of the symbols that this, at least I'm classifying it personally as a suspected left-wing extremist
00:05:41.140 motivated homicide. And we saw for 2025, great diversity starting with January 1st with a violent
00:05:49.280 selfish jihadist killing 14, which is one of the larger events in recent years. So that kind of stacked it in
00:05:56.580 one direction. The last thing I want to say is we're also seeing this, this particular defendant or suspect,
00:06:04.540 um, Robinson appears to be in, in a more organized pale and organized folder, if you will, from the hard
00:06:13.680 left. But we're increasingly seeing people with amorphous motivations, uh, psychological distress
00:06:20.200 and unclear or multiple hatreds motivate, motivating their attacks. So we have a rot going on here,
00:06:28.980 which is not just against individual political camps, but against our democracy as well.
00:06:35.440 County jail, an official there tells CNN, he is being held without bail on multiple initial charges,
00:06:41.180 including aggravated murder. He is expected to make his first court appearance on Tuesday when
00:06:46.480 former formal charges are filed. Sources say Robinson initially was talking to investigators,
00:06:54.180 but that he stopped cooperating this morning after getting a lawyer. The end of the manhunt coming a
00:07:00.580 day and a half after Charlie Kirk was shot in front of a crowd at Utah Valley University. As the search
00:07:07.020 stretched on, police released this video showing the suspect jumping off the roof where he is believed
00:07:13.340 to have fired that fatal shot. And in this video obtained by CNN, you can see someone matching the
00:07:20.180 suspect's appearance walking into a neighborhood near the university. All of that leading to a
00:07:27.000 confrontation that's almost unimaginable. A law enforcement source tells CNN that a man in
00:07:32.440 southwestern Utah saw these photos and recognized his own son, Tyler Robinson. He confronted him and his
00:07:40.660 son confessed. Our source says that Robinson's father called a youth pastor who contacted police,
00:07:47.280 and that led to Tyler Robinson's arrest late last night.
00:07:54.100 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on
00:08:02.580 these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a
00:08:09.440 belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world
00:08:13.220 to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go?
00:08:17.240 To share the big line? Mega Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:08:26.140 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,
00:08:33.080 this country will be saved.
00:08:36.060 It's Friday, September in the year of our Lord, 2025. I think our morning show began to have the impact
00:08:53.820 that we feel is necessary in this entire process.
00:08:57.320 Many stories about it. The Daily Mail of London just put up a huge story a little while ago,
00:09:08.480 and if we can put that up with the appropriate headline, from our morning show about our belief
00:09:15.920 belief about law enforcement and the FBI and all of it, and particularly the fact that we took umbrage
00:09:24.620 with the self-congratulatory nature of all this.
00:09:29.460 And we're big believers and supporters of law enforcement, but two things that irk us, and I think irk the American people,
00:09:40.880 and I think people are kind of getting tired of it, is no real preventative, nothing really preventative,
00:09:49.240 everything performative before the fact that we hear that, you know, these menly deranged kids,
00:09:57.780 these transgender kids have been identified, or maybe the FBI has been noticed, or local law enforcement has been noticed,
00:10:03.620 but it turns out nothing's happened, or they go to the house a couple of times.
00:10:08.160 And there's been issues, but because everybody's so politically correct and kind of tiptoeing around it,
00:10:13.780 they walk away. Or in this case, this hasn't been confirmed,
00:10:17.460 but it might have been some people had seen this guy in action and motion.
00:10:22.720 And this makes sense, because the timeline itself, we have to get the timeline right,
00:10:29.380 and we have to make sure that we actually have the shooter and not an accessory to this.
00:10:35.960 So the self-congratulatory nature of law enforcement, oh, and I say there's two things.
00:10:42.640 The other thing is when, after it's over, good God, like down at the university, there's tanks everywhere,
00:10:47.120 and half-tracks and Humvees, and, you know, people are up-armored like they were at the Catholic school.
00:10:53.480 You had something that looked like the, it looked like more troops than you deployed to the border,
00:10:57.480 or when the Germans are whining about they have no troops to put in Ukraine,
00:11:02.400 it's the brigade they've got up in Lithuania.
00:11:05.640 Everybody's running around, and they're all swatted up, and, you know, everybody's a cowboy,
00:11:09.020 and they got guns and communications, and they're doing all this after the fact.
00:11:13.340 And today, please, for law enforcement in the future, just cut out the, you know, our partners.
00:11:20.620 I hate our partners.
00:11:21.560 They're not partners.
00:11:22.860 They're not your partners.
00:11:23.740 They're other law enforcement.
00:11:24.620 They got a job to do, local, maybe state.
00:11:28.680 Maybe there's interagency.
00:11:30.080 That's all fine.
00:11:30.980 They're not partners.
00:11:32.080 They're paid to do this.
00:11:33.880 It's the structure of law enforcement locally, law enforcement state, how it interacts with the Fed.
00:11:38.540 We get it.
00:11:39.660 It's complicated.
00:11:40.580 You guys do a good job, all of it.
00:11:43.980 Of course, in the movies, you know, it's always the renegade cop, and everybody's against them and all that.
00:11:49.080 I don't want to hear any of that.
00:11:50.060 It's all crap.
00:11:50.600 It's all nonsense.
00:11:51.960 We're in a war now.
00:11:53.340 We've actually been in a war.
00:11:55.140 But we've got to stop the crap.
00:11:58.580 Also, I just think, and this is why law enforcement, not this goofy governor who's completely woke,
00:12:04.940 and it was Arnold Schwarzenegger called him a girly man, he's a girly man, wants to have a kumbaya.
00:12:11.480 So the Daily Mail had my take on law enforcement, and I think shortly they're going to have my take on,
00:12:19.400 if I understand what they're doing, is a lot of people were, like, shocked but supportive of my takedown of Cox.
00:12:28.400 Media-ites got the lead story.
00:12:30.080 It was the lead story here.
00:12:31.220 Cox is the politician America needs in this moment.
00:12:33.740 Well, if that's the case, that's the America that's going to lose and not be America anymore.
00:12:40.220 Because, no, Cox, we're not going to go out and sing kumbaya.
00:12:44.280 We're not going to hold hands this afternoon, and we're not going to have a barbecue with Democrats.
00:12:49.200 Not going to happen.
00:12:50.700 You've seen this over and over and over again.
00:12:53.280 Here they take a gentle soul.
00:12:55.020 Remember, Charlie Kirk is a gentle soul, a good and decent man that would go into these hell holes in universities,
00:13:03.740 and hold himself out to debate, to debate ideas, what university is supposed to be about,
00:13:09.200 and to try to organize the information and the facts into kind of like, you know, Aristotelian arguments,
00:13:19.300 to actually treat these people like they care about reason.
00:13:23.520 And that's what Charlie would do to kind of try to raise them up, to play to their better angels.
00:13:32.820 And what was Charlie's reward for that?
00:13:36.780 Charlie Kirk was executed.
00:13:39.800 Executed.
00:13:41.120 He was shot like a dog for being one of the great young men in this country.
00:13:49.600 So, Cox, contemplate that before you try to sell the crap you're trying to sell.
00:13:58.500 The reason the country's in the shape it is, is Republicans like that, you've put in office over and over and over again.
00:14:07.180 And what do they want to do?
00:14:08.800 They're afraid of the media.
00:14:10.800 They're afraid of the donors.
00:14:12.100 They're afraid of the money.
00:14:13.360 They're afraid of the media.
00:14:14.100 And they will kowtow.
00:14:16.180 They will break.
00:14:19.920 You want to have certain defeat?
00:14:22.920 You want to lose any chance of making America great again?
00:14:26.640 Follow guys like Cox.
00:14:30.560 Simple.
00:14:32.420 Direct.
00:14:34.680 Designate Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization.
00:14:39.080 Freeze their bank accounts.
00:14:42.200 Declare martial law in Portland.
00:14:44.320 Shut them down.
00:14:45.300 Round them up.
00:14:45.980 And go kick down some doors.
00:14:47.900 Today.
00:14:49.420 Perp walk them.
00:14:50.620 Chain them up.
00:14:51.700 And take them down to federal prison.
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00:16:57.460 And my preferred pronouns are he, him, and his.
00:17:00.080 I think there's still much that we can do to protect women's sports and also to send a message to trans kids that there's a place for them and that they belong.
00:17:17.140 And that's really important to me, that they know that.
00:17:20.600 Look, I just.
00:17:27.260 These kids are.
00:17:30.920 They're just trying to stay alive.
00:17:32.440 You know, there's a reason none of them are playing sports.
00:17:37.820 And so it's I just I just think there's a better way.
00:17:43.400 And and I hope that there will be enough grace in in our state to to find to find a better solution.
00:17:56.280 He said optimism is a vice.
00:17:59.860 It's this idea that good things are just going to happen.
00:18:04.480 And he said in the history of the world, good things have never just happened.
00:18:07.740 He says, I'm not optimistic, but I am hopeful and hope is the virtue that sits between the vices of optimism and pessimism.
00:18:19.340 Hope is the idea that good things are going to happen because we can make them so.
00:18:26.560 I still believe in our country.
00:18:29.680 And I know Charlie Kirk believed in our country.
00:18:32.720 I still believe that there is more good among us than evil.
00:18:36.080 And I still believe that we can change the course of history.
00:18:42.580 I'm hopeful because Americans can make it so.
00:18:48.180 The group of Turning Point with Tyler and Andrew and the other great team that Charlie's built, they will go on and they're going to do great things and probably greater things they've done before.
00:18:58.920 But a Charlie Kirk's like an Andrew Breitbart.
00:19:02.600 These individuals come along once a generation.
00:19:06.100 Right.
00:19:06.920 They're not they're not everyday people.
00:19:10.440 This is and they targeted this guy.
00:19:13.600 They targeting the family said right there, Matt Boyle.
00:19:16.380 And look, I'm just sick and tired of law enforcement with all the resources we put into it to come up and say, we're working in partnerships.
00:19:24.100 We're great.
00:19:24.660 We're communicating.
00:19:25.440 The public assumes that that is happening.
00:19:28.640 We should get to the chase, cut to the chase and give the public content about exactly what happened, the timeline of how the guy turned himself in, about the family, about more details and about accessories to the crime.
00:19:44.000 And the discord channel and go into and have a governor up there that has no earthly idea about Antifa doesn't want to matter.
00:19:51.440 We had the FBI director.
00:19:53.280 Could we not get up there and talk about what this symbology means?
00:19:57.120 Because the left is not going to get off the hook in this.
00:19:59.480 All these reports coming.
00:20:00.240 What do you mean we're a war banner?
00:20:01.440 What are you talking about this?
00:20:02.760 They assassinated Charlie Kirk in cold blood in a targeted exercise that took planning.
00:20:10.360 Planning.
00:20:10.800 And now we're going to sit here and let's let's have some groups.
00:20:14.440 Let's get together and have a group hug.
00:20:16.700 They take out Charlie Kirk and let's just sit down and have a group hug.
00:20:20.580 Let's have a let's have Antifa over for a barbecue this afternoon.
00:20:24.200 How about that?
00:20:25.700 Antifa, can you, you know, you know, Charlie, the generalist and nicest individual in this political world who would sit there with a microphone and say, I can convince you through ideas.
00:20:37.400 I can convince you through the force of my argument.
00:20:40.800 Not violence and anything.
00:20:42.500 He was the happy warrior.
00:20:44.600 That's who they took out.
00:20:46.760 Who could be more accommodating than Charlie Kirk?
00:20:49.340 Who could be nicer than Charlie Kirk?
00:20:51.000 Who could be more accessible than Charlie Kirk?
00:20:53.200 That's why they murdered him in cold blood assassination.
00:20:56.420 And this was an execution.
00:20:57.900 And now, you know, you get the symbology of this and we're just going to have this press conference and, oh, OK, fine.
00:21:03.420 And, you know, let's go.
00:21:04.580 Let's it's time to us to bring the unity together.
00:21:07.300 No, they always want the unity after they do something horrific.
00:21:11.220 Well, they ain't getting unity and there shouldn't be unity.
00:21:14.920 We should get answers on this to drill down with people that know it and present to the public exactly what his affiliations were, who he talked to and round up the accessories.
00:21:26.280 And now more than ever, I don't know why we're not putting down Antifa, at least at minimum.
00:21:32.100 So, OK, you saw at the beginning the cold open.
00:21:40.220 Now they got now they're going to try to confuse you.
00:21:43.060 You know, we really got to think about this.
00:21:44.620 We're so uncertain of what this guy was.
00:21:46.320 No, this was 100 percent Antifa affiliated, Antifa adjacent.
00:21:50.040 Antifa is burning down Portland every night, stopping officers from from ICE officers doing their job.
00:22:03.120 They've taken control of Portland.
00:22:04.940 They never really gave it up.
00:22:06.820 And in Trump's first term, remember, it was it was Bill Barr and these people.
00:22:11.300 The reason Bill Barr and they had to fight against President Trump had this huge fight in his first term.
00:22:15.720 They're all guys like Cox.
00:22:17.140 This is why I say the conservatives and the Republicans and all that.
00:22:22.220 It's the reason you're here, folks.
00:22:25.140 There's not a little bit of evil.
00:22:28.700 It's overwhelming evil.
00:22:33.100 You have people in Cox, you're saying, oh, they're so generous.
00:22:36.820 No, they're boys and girls.
00:22:39.660 Divine Providence, the Holy Spirit.
00:22:43.240 At your conception.
00:22:45.740 Picked it.
00:22:47.140 Boys and girls.
00:22:49.800 Boys and girls.
00:22:51.820 And the fact that you condone it and bring it along and nurture it.
00:22:55.620 Oh, gosh, let's get the pronouns right.
00:22:57.440 And they, you know, they're all they want to do is, you know, fulfill themselves.
00:23:02.000 You build this mental disease and then they get twisted and they think the world's against them.
00:23:07.560 And you know what they do?
00:23:08.300 They end up taking a high powered rifle and putting through a slot in a church and gunning down little kids.
00:23:13.640 And the mom and them, oh, yeah, you know, get the hair and read.
00:23:19.020 Oh, we don't know what the motive is.
00:23:20.320 Remember that?
00:23:20.760 We still don't know what the motive is.
00:23:21.900 The transgender guy.
00:23:23.220 The dude.
00:23:24.540 We don't know his motive.
00:23:25.540 Oh, except in his manifesto, which now law enforcement, because President Trump's in charge, puts out right away in the manifesto.
00:23:33.340 Just read it.
00:23:33.980 He hated, he says, I've been brainwashed.
00:23:36.860 I hate it.
00:23:37.540 I hate myself.
00:23:38.360 The last thing left is the hair.
00:23:43.080 Has not Brandon Showwater and the doctors we've had on for years walked you through the agony of these people because the pharmaceutical companies and everybody and the psychiatrists and the psychologists.
00:23:58.500 And look online.
00:24:00.040 Charlie Kirk was a transgender hater.
00:24:02.200 He had to die.
00:24:03.120 We're laughing.
00:24:03.880 Ha, ha, ha.
00:24:04.840 Charlie Kirk.
00:24:06.780 These are sick, twisted, evil people.
00:24:12.180 They've been formed into evil people because the parents, the people around them let that formation happen.
00:24:19.440 And now you have Peter Baker and you got Katie Britt.
00:24:23.020 It's time for unity.
00:24:24.040 We need unity and peace.
00:24:25.180 No, we do not need unity.
00:24:26.840 We don't need peace.
00:24:28.000 We need them designated as domestic terrorist organization.
00:24:31.800 We need to go to Portland to declare martial law.
00:24:35.100 We need to shut it down and stop the crap.
00:24:37.360 Roll them up.
00:24:38.000 Take a thousand of them and put them in a pin in Portland and start arraining them.
00:24:45.800 No more activity to stop an ice.
00:24:50.400 No.
00:24:52.520 And go get the financing.
00:24:54.740 Take, take, take the, take the case that President Trump talked about today.
00:24:58.520 The Rico case was sourced and just put it in a tariff financing case.
00:25:01.700 How about that act blue tariff financing case and roll them all up.
00:25:07.980 Are you kidding me?
00:25:09.060 They're going to shoot these little kids in school and then assassinate Charlie Kirk.
00:25:12.880 And now it's time for unity.
00:25:14.700 Now it's time.
00:25:15.880 Yeah.
00:25:16.140 What we need to do play Katie Britt.
00:25:17.860 This is because this is the mentality of the Republicans.
00:25:20.200 Let's play it.
00:25:20.740 Before I start on the issue at hand, I want to echo what you've heard from my colleagues.
00:25:25.320 Political violence has no place in America.
00:25:30.420 What we saw yesterday and everyone saw it is sickening.
00:25:37.620 It is disgusting.
00:25:39.620 It was a political assassination.
00:25:41.860 And all of you sitting in these rows have a duty and an obligation to call it that.
00:25:50.120 You know, when I'm thinking about Charlie, obviously his faith was the most important thing in his life.
00:25:55.720 His wife, his children, our prayers are with them.
00:26:00.280 But he influenced countless Americans and people across the world.
00:26:05.220 My kids being amongst those groups.
00:26:07.420 Talking with them last night, talking through this with them last night is just unthinkable that this is happening in the United States of America.
00:26:17.380 And so the time for unity, the time for peace, it is now.
00:26:21.780 They may not be the majority, but the louder voices in our politics are, of course, you know, engaging in blame for one another and ratcheting up the rhetoric rather than ratcheting it down.
00:26:31.660 Talking about the radical lunatic left and that left is evil and the left is this and that while ignoring the fact that, of course, violence has played out across the political spectrum in recent years.
00:26:42.320 Whether you count the assassination of the two Minnesota lawmakers, Democrats recently, the burning of the Democratic governor's mansion in Pennsylvania, January 6th, the attack on Paul Pelosi.
00:26:57.460 And so all the, all these, all these, all the, hey, baby, that's what they got.
00:27:01.920 I had other people like Baker today calling me to, oh, you know, it's, it's walls.
00:27:06.480 The guy was a walls appointee.
00:27:10.300 And we still haven't got, we still don't know all the facts about Shapiro, the setting on fire.
00:27:14.540 That's the, that's the example they got.
00:27:16.100 You've been killing people time and time and time again.
00:27:20.080 These transgender radicals.
00:27:22.460 And Katie Bird, we're not calling for political violence.
00:27:27.920 We've never called for political violence.
00:27:29.820 We're calling for actually people in charge to have a whole of government.
00:27:36.520 You did a good job on the, on the J6 Patriots, 1,000 of them.
00:27:42.500 You rolled up and kicked down the doors and dragged into prison.
00:27:46.940 Grandmothers, Tina Peters, got her in prison right now.
00:27:50.380 Want her to die in prison.
00:27:52.460 You got the, the men praying the rosary.
00:27:56.660 You got the traditional Catholics.
00:27:59.240 You got MAGA.
00:28:01.360 Oh, but now it's time after you've murdered and assassinated and murdered and assassinated.
00:28:06.600 Now we got to take down the rhetoric.
00:28:10.000 Screw you.
00:28:13.460 Designate them.
00:28:14.560 Cause once you designate a terrorist organization, you're going to find out the journalists working
00:28:19.440 with them, the politicians working with them, and the money that's working with them.
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00:29:54.540 Right there, we're looking at a live shot of the perpetrator's house of what they say is a perpetrator
00:29:59.740 or part of the conspiracy.
00:30:01.280 I don't know.
00:30:01.980 Law enforcement is not telling us things.
00:30:03.180 Certainly would like to have a press conference and have somebody step to the microphone that's in law enforcement
00:30:08.160 and give us some facts.
00:30:11.140 Part of the engine room says the whole story is BS.
00:30:14.740 They took out a future president and a pillar of Christian American values.
00:30:20.080 They took out the best.
00:30:21.420 And the reason he was the best, he accomplished so much.
00:30:28.520 And this is why you have huge gathering in Hyde Park in London, Hyde Park Corner, the free speech place.
00:30:34.820 Massive in London right now.
00:30:37.380 Let's just keep it right there.
00:30:38.400 Associated Press has a...
00:30:39.420 Charlie was a gentle person.
00:30:50.060 He was tough and he was focused and he was determined.
00:30:55.560 Everything you have to do to kind of make it in this greater world and particularly build a huge organization
00:30:59.660 when there was nobody thought he could do it.
00:31:03.100 Nobody thought we could get to the youth.
00:31:04.860 Nobody thought we could do it.
00:31:05.680 And Charlie Kirk changed the arc of American history.
00:31:10.960 It was exactly what Donald Trump needed at the exact time Donald Trump needed it.
00:31:16.260 And Charlie Kirk, for someone to do that in their 20s,
00:31:19.420 who basically started with no money in his parents' garage,
00:31:22.940 is like you have to go back to the revolutionary generation to see somebody like Charlie Kirk,
00:31:29.460 to Hamilton and Jefferson and these folks that were in their 20s.
00:31:35.680 When they led a revolution against British tyranny and formed this new republic.
00:31:43.820 A republic, I think, now that's the longest lasting republic.
00:31:48.140 I don't know.
00:31:48.880 I think we're as long as Rome.
00:31:50.220 The Roman Republic.
00:31:51.320 Forget the empire.
00:31:54.600 And Charlie Kirk always did it wearing his Christian values on his sleeve and was out there.
00:32:02.220 So that's the best of the best.
00:32:04.540 How many people like Charlie Kirk come along?
00:32:07.980 How many?
00:32:09.980 And look how he raised people up.
00:32:11.560 Look how he trained that team.
00:32:14.420 Turning Point is going to do tremendous things going forward because of the team Charlie left,
00:32:18.840 the institution he built.
00:32:21.160 Who does that?
00:32:22.840 Oh, by the way, he never really took any money.
00:32:26.000 Right?
00:32:26.280 He just – he didn't take a big salary out of it, make some money from the media stuff, et cetera.
00:32:32.820 But he could have gone to Silicon Valley and been a billionaire.
00:32:36.760 He didn't.
00:32:37.420 He did this because he understood in this time and place, this is what the country needed.
00:32:44.800 He saw a vision and people laughed at him and mocked him.
00:32:47.360 And remember, Charlie was not a – he was not a pro-Trump guy.
00:32:53.580 He was more of a Glenn Beck and a Ted Cruz guy at the beginning, as many of the people at Breitbart were.
00:33:01.300 Remember, I went to a little choppy water over Breitbart until we set things right.
00:33:07.140 Yes, we did.
00:33:08.000 But Charlie Kirk is a populist nationalist.
00:33:12.220 What do I do every day at one minute to noon?
00:33:16.320 Two hours of populist nationalism served up hot.
00:33:20.160 How many times have I said that over the years to toss to Charlie Kirk?
00:33:28.820 Ecclesiastes, what is it?
00:33:30.380 It's a time and a season for everything under heaven.
00:33:33.240 And there's a time for – in a place for assisting and giving comfort to the widow and to give comfort to the children that are now fatherless.
00:33:48.400 And if you've ever seen those pictures of the daughter running in a studio in Fox or running anywhere to see her, as soon as she sees her dad, it's heart-rendering.
00:33:59.260 You see the pictures, all the pictures they got of Charlie and the little boy and all of it.
00:34:02.500 It's heart-rendering.
00:34:03.240 And there's a time and place, and that is now, to comfort the widow and to comfort and nurture the children.
00:34:11.720 But there's also a task of honoring the work he did in the way of holding people accountable for what they did to him, what they did to him, and shot him down like an animal on live TV.
00:34:32.400 We will not let that go and know Katie Britt and know Peter Baker and know all the politicians and know Cox.
00:34:41.880 We're not going to sing kumbaya.
00:34:44.120 We're not going to say it's a time to bring people together.
00:34:46.960 You know why?
00:34:49.040 One side has to win here and one side has to win.
00:34:51.520 What are we supposed to bring together?
00:34:53.260 What are we supposed to talk about?
00:34:54.880 Well, you know, Charlie actually had some good arguments.
00:34:59.040 What are you supposed to do with these people?
00:35:00.640 Have you read?
00:35:01.460 Have you looked at the Internet?
00:35:03.120 Have you looked at what they've said?
00:35:05.200 Do you look at what they stand for?
00:35:06.540 Do you see Portland every night?
00:35:08.360 Do you see what's happening in the universities where Charlie went to combat it at the center of where the most pus is under the scab that he was trying to drain in a gentlemanly and Christian way?
00:35:24.280 We must use the tire for we get we got it, folks.
00:35:36.080 We work for years for this.
00:35:37.900 We're kind of in charge.
00:35:40.420 It's time now.
00:35:42.480 And, you know, Pam, I don't know what to say.
00:35:46.280 I just don't know what to say.
00:35:47.820 Why are you at the Yankees game last night?
00:35:49.740 Who's got time for a Yankees game?
00:35:53.080 President can do it because he's there to do bigger things and to present to the people, hey, I'm here in this tragedy boom.
00:36:00.260 I think for for for Charlie Kirk and to let him know and basically sit there.
00:36:05.300 He's up there, I'm sure, getting feedback today as he's spending all day up there with about Ma'am Donnie and what is going on in New York.
00:36:16.240 And President Trump said, hey, I'm going to think this thing through.
00:36:18.400 He's going to meet with the Qataris.
00:36:22.240 I mean, President Trump has got the weight of the world on his shoulders, on his shoulders.
00:36:29.140 But people should do their job in a DOJ and FBI.
00:36:32.720 Let's turn the entire DHS.
00:36:34.840 Let's turn the entire apparatus.
00:36:36.260 What did I say at a turning point when Charlie was nice enough again to invite me again?
00:36:41.220 And I gave the speech in Tampa this summer because we love doing the summer program.
00:36:46.760 I actually told him afterwards I thought Tampa was a tremendous venue and we should continue there.
00:36:52.900 And then do the one in in Phoenix right before Christmas.
00:36:57.240 But in Tampa, my remarks 100 percent focused on the work at hand.
00:37:03.700 And the work at hand is with everything else we got going on, the wars and the economy and getting commercial and getting the trade deals and the tariffs,
00:37:10.980 everything we've promoted and worked on with Navarro and all these people.
00:37:13.840 Scott Bessem for years and years and years.
00:37:15.420 We said the number one priority is if you don't take apart the deep state, you're taking apart the administrative state,
00:37:21.140 but you don't get to the deep state part of it.
00:37:24.340 All of this is going to be for naught.
00:37:25.800 They're going to unwind all of it.
00:37:28.140 And they're going to come at everybody with a vengeance.
00:37:30.380 So you have to do it and you have to do it now.
00:37:35.320 And you have to move with alacrity and urgency and that we're burning daylight.
00:37:44.780 Immediately, like today, we have to designate.
00:37:50.960 And President Trump can do it with a scratch of a pen.
00:37:54.940 An executive order that designates Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization.
00:38:01.660 We'll start there.
00:38:02.320 Let's just start there.
00:38:03.640 You've got all kind of things you've got.
00:38:04.760 Let's just start there.
00:38:05.480 Boom.
00:38:05.940 And then we go after terror financing.
00:38:08.980 We can get to their bank accounts.
00:38:10.680 We can get all social media that's promoted them for years where they suppressed everybody else.
00:38:15.220 All those demons around President Trump at the table the other night, they're all demons.
00:38:19.300 All of them.
00:38:21.740 They're suppressing everything.
00:38:22.860 They've suppressed all of our voices.
00:38:24.940 Particularly people who came up and tried to take down Antifa.
00:38:27.620 And particularly after George Floyd, they took it all down.
00:38:30.340 Suppressed that and promoted the George Floyd stuff.
00:38:34.520 The George Floyd messaging.
00:38:38.900 Think of what you, the audience, think of what, with President Trump, you've saved the country from.
00:38:43.380 That's where the country's going.
00:38:44.440 Remember all these people are taking knees?
00:38:46.680 Nancy Pelosi, they're on their knees to this?
00:38:49.660 Like they're worshiping a God?
00:38:53.200 Like they're praying to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ?
00:38:56.260 Remember that?
00:38:56.940 Remember?
00:38:57.340 They're in the halls of Congress.
00:38:58.520 They talk about a sacred space in January 6th.
00:39:01.240 And oh my gosh.
00:39:03.600 In the Holy of Holies.
00:39:04.860 These patriots came in and soiled it.
00:39:09.620 Think of what you did.
00:39:10.860 You knelt to it.
00:39:12.000 You knelt there and you knelt to it.
00:39:14.100 And you prayed to it.
00:39:15.140 And you worshipped it.
00:39:16.340 A false God.
00:39:20.000 And look at all.
00:39:20.740 Look in Bethesda.
00:39:22.020 Look at all the elites.
00:39:23.080 All the white elites.
00:39:24.620 On their knees.
00:39:25.980 They were on their knees.
00:39:27.160 You think those people should run anything?
00:39:30.600 Well, I don't.
00:39:34.140 And you've seen it again.
00:39:37.220 And no, we're not going to sit here and say for unity.
00:39:40.720 And we're not going to say, we ain't toning anything down.
00:39:43.320 We want them designated a terrorist organization.
00:39:47.400 And we want the FBI to kick down doors like they kicked down the J6 doors.
00:39:52.820 And they kicked down the traditional Catholic doors.
00:39:55.280 And they went into the guys that have six and seven kids with 20 FBI cars.
00:40:01.520 And dragged them out like animals.
00:40:04.300 And chained them like animals.
00:40:08.560 And took Peter Navarro.
00:40:11.340 Whose greatest crime is trying to bring jobs back here to the United States of America.
00:40:16.720 And they took him off a plane at Reagan Airport.
00:40:19.240 And turned him on tarmac.
00:40:20.460 And chained him like a dog.
00:40:22.520 Chained him like an animal.
00:40:25.280 So no, we're not going to sit here and just say, it's fine.
00:40:31.400 And let's do kumbaya.
00:40:32.640 No, Cox.
00:40:33.700 You taught social media is a cancer.
00:40:35.900 You are also a cancer.
00:40:37.440 And you're a cancer that's metastasized in the political process.
00:40:43.440 To pat people on the head.
00:40:44.900 And all we have to do is sit down and talk.
00:40:46.720 No, no, no.
00:40:47.840 What are we supposed to talk about?
00:40:49.340 Oh, you know, Charlie Kirk was a good man.
00:40:52.520 Charlie Kirk was a Christian.
00:40:53.640 Charlie Kirk, they know that.
00:40:55.060 That's why they slaughtered him.
00:40:57.040 That's why he was executed.
00:41:00.520 If you do not understand that, you don't understand the moment in the history of this country or where we are.
00:41:13.920 And we have control of state power.
00:41:17.280 Why is Soros' son walking around New York City?
00:41:22.720 Why are all these foreigners putting money through Ag Blue or these foreign billionaires putting money in here to destroy our republic?
00:41:31.500 Why is there even an organization that can get in there and have a group chat?
00:41:35.520 First off, why is everybody in the Discord not rolled up and arrested?
00:41:39.640 Well, now Discord as a company says, hey, we don't know what you're talking about.
00:41:47.480 I don't know.
00:41:48.440 I'm just some civilian.
00:41:49.340 But when I see the kid running off the roof and jumping down, I don't see a gun.
00:41:55.420 Maybe it is.
00:41:56.200 I don't know.
00:41:57.140 I'm not a professional in that.
00:41:58.440 But I'm just sitting there as a basic, stupid mick civilian.
00:42:02.440 I go, yeah, I don't know.
00:42:04.080 Didn't he say in the Discord that get the gun, it's going to be the trees.
00:42:07.920 Didn't they say they got the gun from the trees?
00:42:10.080 Well, where's the gun?
00:42:11.440 Maybe slow it down and show me because I'm a simpleton.
00:42:15.240 Just show me.
00:42:17.700 And the grandmother, of course, I don't know.
00:42:19.980 The grandmother is saying, hey, the kid never touched a gun in his life.
00:42:22.700 We don't know.
00:42:23.020 I don't know.
00:42:26.060 All I can tell you is the shot that said he came up, and they said he got there at 11.53,
00:42:32.280 and I saw 11.49 a couple minutes.
00:42:36.920 That doesn't give him a long time to set up and kind of, you know, for Tej Gill and for guys that are stone-cold killers
00:42:45.520 and defended our country by being trained by the best in the world, right?
00:42:51.480 I can see Tej Gill.
00:42:54.440 I see those guys that can do it.
00:42:56.280 I don't know.
00:42:57.820 Some kid up there, and it didn't look like that easy a shot.
00:43:00.820 Maybe it was.
00:43:02.300 200 yards.
00:43:03.080 We had the angle of the building out.
00:43:05.100 Charlie's under a tent.
00:43:07.660 People in front of him.
00:43:08.660 I don't know.
00:43:09.280 And please don't say you caught him in the headlines.
00:43:16.200 They caught him.
00:43:16.740 Oh, we caught him.
00:43:17.420 I want to thank all of our partners.
00:43:19.560 I want to thank all of our law enforcement partners for catching him.
00:43:22.860 You didn't catch him.
00:43:24.240 His parents turned him in.
00:43:28.340 Short break.
00:43:29.740 Tej Gill on the other side.
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00:44:56.880 Number one, it's very simple.
00:44:59.060 The deep state must be destroyed to free the American people.
00:45:04.540 Is there any question about that?
00:45:06.160 Is there any question about that?
00:45:09.900 We have to destroy the deep state.
00:45:11.980 And this is elements of the Pentagon, the Justice Department, the FBI, the CIA.
00:45:17.080 Certain elements that work under DNI, those 17 intelligence agencies.
00:45:20.640 Also parts of the State Department.
00:45:22.180 The USAIDs of the world.
00:45:23.900 That inner apparatus.
00:45:26.360 Inner apparatus controls the government.
00:45:28.700 And when President Trump tries to do something, they're always trying to thwart his actions.
00:45:33.640 Right?
00:45:33.840 You see the leaks.
00:45:35.620 When Holman's sending these brave men and women into Los Angeles to do these raids.
00:45:40.160 Like the raid about the children traffic to the marijuana farm to work.
00:45:44.720 They're waiting.
00:45:45.640 They're lying in wait for him.
00:45:47.400 They're lying in wait for the agents.
00:45:48.860 They've got weapons to shoot.
00:45:50.060 How does the protesters?
00:45:51.400 Because somebody inside leaked it to them.
00:45:54.560 Somebody inside leaks it to the media.
00:45:56.640 That's the deep state every day.
00:45:58.680 It must be destroyed.
00:46:01.620 We're not free.
00:46:03.840 The second resolve, the second resolve is quite simple.
00:46:11.460 You don't give the deep state the consent of the governed.
00:46:15.260 Therefore, it's your responsibility to destroy it.
00:46:18.980 It's a sacred duty and a responsibility of the American people, American citizens.
00:46:25.000 No cavalry is going to come and save you.
00:46:26.940 No foreign country is going to come and save you.
00:46:29.380 No doyce ex-mackina is going to come down.
00:46:32.020 No fairy dust is going to appear.
00:46:33.760 You have to do it yourself.
00:46:35.460 Correct?
00:46:36.080 It's our responsibility.
00:46:37.120 And number three, whoever is not with us is against us, right?
00:46:44.800 If you're not with us, you can't be neutral in this.
00:46:48.160 If you're with us, you're with us.
00:46:50.120 If you're neutral, oh, I don't know, then you're against us.
00:46:53.420 This has to happen.
00:46:54.480 And President Trump, I think you're going to see, and when he's identifying these prosecutors,
00:46:58.980 he's going after it.
00:47:00.360 He's going after who set up Crossfire Hurricane.
00:47:03.280 He's going after the Russia hoax.
00:47:06.680 He's going to go after the 2020 election and how it was stolen and who's responsible for
00:47:11.960 it being stolen, right?
00:47:14.260 And I hope he gets to January 6th.
00:47:16.420 You got to get to January 6th.
00:47:17.740 When I was in prison, you had these January 6th people that had just walked by the Capitol.
00:47:22.440 And what were they?
00:47:23.200 They were sitting there in prison for nothing more than supporting the President of the United States.
00:47:27.420 There's a time and place for everything under heaven, and there is a time and place, and
00:47:37.180 that's happening now, to nurture and comfort the widow, and the orphans in this case, or
00:47:44.600 the little children with no father, and the young employees over at Turning Point.
00:47:50.500 But there's also a time and place for this, and this is now, now, now, now.
00:47:59.420 Not tomorrow, not the next day, now.
00:48:03.520 They gave that speech in Tampa at Charlie's gathering in mid-July.
00:48:09.720 Little did I know that 60 days later, it would be relevant to the assassination of one of the
00:48:21.920 greatest young men of his generation in cold blood execution.
00:48:27.080 The investigation, not just of what happened in Utah, and who was the shooter, how did it
00:48:38.380 happen, details.
00:48:39.760 Second by second, we have to know, we must know.
00:48:45.240 We owe it to Charlie Kirk, to Charlie Kirk's work, to Charlie Kirk's life's work, to honor
00:48:53.960 him, like we honor our war dead.
00:49:00.820 Because Charlie Kirk, and I hate when I say this, they were all over me the other day,
00:49:04.300 oh, Bannon said he's a war casualty.
00:49:05.660 He's a war casualty in this war to save the greatest country in the history of mankind.
00:49:16.080 And I told you for years it was going to come to this.
00:49:19.880 I told you it was going to come to this.
00:49:21.520 Now that they're murdering at a rate of, you know, the kids every couple of weeks, prominent
00:49:29.720 figures, and trying to intimidate you, and taking two shots at President Trump, now they
00:49:37.260 want to have unity.
00:49:38.880 They always want unity when they're caught or they're losing.
00:49:41.740 You designate them a terrorist organization, then all kind of good things happen.
00:49:48.160 You start subpoenaing telephone records, text messages.
00:49:50.940 You go to the telephone companies like they went on us and took all their stuff.
00:49:57.060 Fine, do it.
00:49:57.820 What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
00:49:59.500 See the interconnection.
00:50:00.600 See who's financing them.
00:50:02.620 See who's contacting them.
00:50:04.400 See what politicians are working with them.
00:50:08.320 See what media types are working with them.
00:50:10.920 And then we ought to round up the media types are working with them as accessories.
00:50:17.800 This is doable.
00:50:20.920 And if you want to avoid a civil war, it needs to be done today.
00:50:24.860 Use the powers of the state.
00:50:26.300 We happen to be in charge.
00:50:29.920 You that lifted President Trump on your shoulders when he had every reason in the world not to
00:50:35.880 do it again, and he came back and said, I'm going to do it.
00:50:39.280 We must do it because we cannot allow to stand the big steal of the 60.
00:50:46.020 And look at the people against this.
00:50:47.400 Number one, they stole it, then lied about it, then crushed and tried to send this all to
00:50:50.360 President Trump, too.
00:50:51.320 Then they knew they had somebody that had no mental capacity.
00:50:56.780 When he's there, didn't have it.
00:50:58.500 And they covered that up and then tried to run him again until he epically failed at
00:51:05.760 the debate.
00:51:06.880 Are you kidding me?
00:51:09.340 Look at what these people have done.
00:51:11.300 Look what they've done to our country.
00:51:12.780 Look what they've done to our children.
00:51:15.680 And you want to sit there and say, now it's time for unity.
00:51:18.440 No, we do not want unity and we will not accept unity.
00:51:21.960 We will only accept victory.
00:51:23.960 Victory.
00:51:24.840 And when the Katie Brits of the world and all these rhinos start talking about victory,
00:51:29.940 then we'll start listening to you.
00:51:32.020 All we care about is winning.
00:51:35.240 Why?
00:51:36.840 Because that's what's going to save our country.
00:51:39.580 What did Charlie Kirk give his life for at the age of 31?
00:51:45.600 Why does Charlie Kirk's son not have a father?
00:51:48.380 Why does that precious little daughter not have a father?
00:51:50.640 Why does the grieving widow grieve?
00:51:57.000 If you're prepared to accept that, you're prepared to give your country over to the most evil people on earth.
00:52:09.540 This is a test from almighty God.
00:52:15.080 You're either with us or you're getting us.
00:52:17.600 As Christ says, if you're lukewarm, we'll spit you out of our mouth.
00:52:21.500 We'll take a short break.
00:52:42.220 Tase Gill, Dr. Bradley Thayer will join me on the other side.
00:52:46.620 What if he had the brightest mind in the war room delivering critical financial research every month?
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