Bannon's War Room - October 02, 2025


Episode 4821： Trump Flooding The Zone And Breaking The Media


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

169.58867

Word Count

9,183

Sentence Count

688

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

14


Summary

In this episode, Alex Blumberg talks about the Democratic strategy to leverage the shutdown, and why he thinks it s working. Alex also talks about how the White House is using the shutdown as leverage in order to get their message out there and get their points across.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Are they controlling the message, though?
00:00:01.460 So far, they have been.
00:00:02.700 They have been.
00:00:03.500 They've used the bully pulpit of the White House, the president himself.
00:00:07.760 You know, I was told by White House advisors yesterday that a clue as to how they're feeling
00:00:11.540 about things, how they feel like they're winning the messaging argument, is the fact
00:00:15.600 that J.D. Vance showed up in the White House briefing room yesterday, the first time he's
00:00:18.500 done that, sort of a swaggering appearance, suggesting Democrats, Democrats, Democrats
00:00:22.280 are the ones to blame.
00:00:23.460 He didn't stick to the facts all the time in that appearance, but that's the messaging.
00:00:27.120 And Democrats are still trying to, they're on their back heels, the White House feels.
00:00:33.440 Donald Trump is governing like the dictator of America, right?
00:00:36.660 He promised to be a dictator on day one, his words.
00:00:40.080 He's compared himself to America's king, even to the pope.
00:00:44.040 The goal of the second term, quite clearly, not hiding this, is to assert complete control
00:00:49.620 over every aspect of the federal government.
00:00:52.120 He wants to directly control who gets fired and hired across the entire government and
00:00:57.680 even civil society, from Fed directors to talk show hosts.
00:01:02.540 He wants to directly control who gets indicted, most recently with the ridiculous prosecution
00:01:07.840 of James Comey.
00:01:08.960 He says, right now, the position of the Trump administration and Donald Trump is that he,
00:01:12.980 by himself, unilaterally, can raise taxes on the American people by a trillion dollars,
00:01:18.800 entirely by executive fiat, just by being like, yeah, yeah, taxes up.
00:01:24.380 He says he can rescind or reallocate any congressionally appropriated funds, basically
00:01:29.560 at any time, entirely by executive fiat.
00:01:31.940 Oh, there's a bill to spend stuff there?
00:01:34.240 No, we're not going to do it.
00:01:35.540 OK, but think about that.
00:01:37.580 But now it's the Democrats who are in the driver's seat when it comes to shutting down
00:01:40.400 the government.
00:01:40.760 That is a pretty tough sell, especially considering Trump is using the shutdown to, drumroll,
00:01:48.680 govern like a king.
00:01:49.800 In the first Trump term, you know, I think Donald Trump's been unstable and, to my right,
00:01:57.520 unhinged for a long time.
00:01:59.820 But in the first Trump term, there were people who, and we heard reports of this, people who
00:02:04.560 kind of made a pact to say, look, none of us are going to let this guy go unsupervised.
00:02:08.960 It's a dangerous world.
00:02:11.160 We can't, you know, afford the kind of thing that could happen if he flies off the handle
00:02:16.380 and there's nobody there to stop him.
00:02:18.560 The people around him now don't care.
00:02:20.500 They're either true believers who think that Donald Trump is, you know, on some kind of
00:02:24.360 mission to save America from its own citizens, or they're opportunists, you know, just soulless
00:02:33.220 opportunists who just don't care.
00:02:35.240 And that is really the scariest part of all of it, because, you know, the two things when
00:02:40.560 I, as I watched that meeting, I had to think that there were people sitting there saying
00:02:45.000 at this moment, and by the way, right now at this moment, Nicole, as we speak, if the
00:02:49.860 president is doing what he's supposed to be doing, he's carrying a little card about the
00:02:54.220 size of a playing card that carries the codes to 1600 strategic nuclear weapons.
00:03:00.380 The president, in the next 20 minutes, could kill hundreds of millions of people if he,
00:03:05.600 if nobody could stop him.
00:03:07.620 And we never had to worry much about that until, you know, he started talking about the
00:03:12.180 N-word and moving submarines around and things that I don't think he really understands.
00:03:17.980 But the other is that when he says to these generals and admirals, the enemy from within,
00:03:22.440 he may think that's a great rally speech, you know, at some maggot gathering.
00:03:27.600 But to those generals and admirals, what he's saying is your fellow citizens, the people
00:03:32.500 you are sworn to defend and protect.
00:03:36.260 And I think he just doesn't understand that.
00:03:38.720 We're also seeing here Russ Vogt and others in the West Wing potentially seizing this opportunity
00:03:44.860 to finish the mission that Doge began, to really clear out what they perceive to be these
00:03:51.620 Democrat deep state loyalists, that this is the moment to gut the government and to keep
00:03:56.180 putting their people in there.
00:03:58.200 Right.
00:03:58.860 And I think that there's no question that health care is a powerful Democratic argument.
00:04:04.260 It was going to be a powerful Democratic argument regardless of whether the shutdown took place
00:04:07.700 or not.
00:04:08.300 There were the cuts that had taken place to Medicaid, the cuts that the Trump budget put
00:04:13.260 into place were going to happen regardless.
00:04:15.600 The shutdown is the Democrats are trying to tie the shutdown to their demands on health
00:04:20.700 care.
00:04:20.900 That may be a good strategy in the long run.
00:04:24.320 It is certainly the case that health care is a good issue.
00:04:26.700 At the moment, though, right now, what it looks like in these messaging wars is you just
00:04:30.820 heard Hakeem Jeffries right there.
00:04:32.220 He's talking about green energy.
00:04:33.680 He was talking about the Trump administration being bad for inflation.
00:04:37.260 He was talking about the Trump administration being job killing.
00:04:39.720 All of those things, I think, are true.
00:04:41.980 But when you see that bite, it's not the kind of clarity and the kind of focus that you
00:04:47.760 might want in a situation like this, which is really what Republicans do have right now,
00:04:52.080 which is clarity and focus.
00:04:53.440 Democrats did this, and we now have to clear out the dead wood.
00:04:56.780 I don't think that firing people is going to be super popular.
00:04:59.120 But right now, it's not obvious that Democrats have.
00:05:02.640 I heard Jake Akelkloss just now on, who I admire and think is really great.
00:05:05.780 But he was on way too early this morning talking about corruption.
00:05:08.000 Another good Democratic message, but not a message around this shutdown that necessarily
00:05:12.960 has the kind of connection to it, the clarity and focus that you might want.
00:05:16.040 And how does firing people or mass firings help get essential services to the people?
00:05:21.340 I mean, the math doesn't, I don't understand that.
00:05:23.980 It's a very good question, Mika.
00:05:25.440 And frankly, to me, the one thing that I, you know, you were talking about this on the
00:05:29.140 show yesterday a fair amount, the Republicans were not in Washington yesterday to vote, right?
00:05:34.720 How is that not the central, one of the central messaging points of Democrats?
00:05:38.960 Just to basically say, where are the Republicans?
00:05:41.120 How can we be responsible for this government shutdown when there are no Republicans in
00:05:45.640 town to vote on this question?
00:05:47.580 I would have thought you would have heard that all day long yesterday.
00:05:49.780 And I know it was pointed out by some Democrats here and there.
00:05:52.340 But again, focus and clarity are key if you're going to win this battle.
00:05:56.680 It isn't a small thing.
00:05:58.260 Just to be clear, who has the appropriating power?
00:06:01.900 The power to tax and to spend isn't some like weird academic quibbling point.
00:06:08.500 It might be the electorate, but like it's sincerely foundational to the constitutional
00:06:13.240 structure of the country.
00:06:14.820 And I guess my feeling is if the shutdown isn't the place to resolve it, I guess we're not
00:06:19.420 resolving it.
00:06:20.160 I guess we have a new form of government, which does seem not great to me.
00:06:24.740 I think that they could include language in a bipartisan way.
00:06:27.680 And I've called for them to do this.
00:06:28.780 That clarifies that you cannot do what's called a pocket rescission, which is basically just
00:06:32.940 run out the clock on spending at the end of the end of the fiscal year and say, sorry,
00:06:37.300 we can't spend this money.
00:06:38.240 I think you could get that through in a bipartisan way.
00:06:40.960 Some of these other things, I do think they have actual legal authority.
00:06:44.020 He has legal authority to fire lots of people right now.
00:06:46.180 That's not violating the law.
00:06:48.080 He can do those things, whether you think it's good or bad.
00:06:50.720 I just don't think I've never seen a government shutdown achieve a policy outcome.
00:06:54.940 And I certainly don't think it's going to change Donald Trump's behavior either.
00:06:58.780 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:07:05.420 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:07:10.620 Here's the reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:07:14.900 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:07:16.820 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:07:18.240 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:07:20.940 It's going to happen.
00:07:21.980 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:07:25.520 Mega Media.
00:07:26.940 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:07:32.380 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:07:36.140 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:07:42.360 War Room.
00:07:43.360 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:07:45.420 Bannon.
00:07:52.140 Thursday to October in the year of our Lord, 2025.
00:07:55.500 It is one year ago.
00:07:57.840 I guess it's tomorrow technically, but I think this is the 365th day of Tina Peters as a political prisoner out in Colorado.
00:08:05.480 And for everything else we're doing, it's still unacceptable.
00:08:08.640 We have a gold star mother that is being held by Jared Polis, the buddy of Cox, the disgraceful governor of Utah.
00:08:19.260 We'll get more of that.
00:08:22.080 A brother, Andy Biggs, is going to be with us.
00:08:23.940 Congressman Biggs.
00:08:24.640 They continued the tour, the Charlie Kirk tour in Utah.
00:08:28.940 And Andy Biggs is going to give us an update on that later in the show.
00:08:31.680 So right there, and the president just put out, by the way, spectacular cold open, curated from a total meltdown yesterday, as we told you.
00:08:44.200 Clarity and focus.
00:08:46.500 The Democrats have a YouTube channel.
00:08:48.680 Akeem Jeffries had a YouTube channel that they were going to put up 24 hours to try to compete with, you know, Rav and Real America's Voice.
00:08:57.500 Rav and War Room as we're streaming service.
00:09:00.040 So they're going to put up a YouTube, they got a YouTube channel, Akeem Jeffries.
00:09:03.480 They're going to go, they're going to stream, to counter us, they're going to stream their 24 hours.
00:09:11.980 There were times when there were a hundred folks watching it.
00:09:16.020 It was an absolute abomination.
00:09:19.540 Number one, they don't have a message.
00:09:21.440 And this is why, let's go back to the strategy.
00:09:23.040 Maximalist, maximize everything we're doing.
00:09:27.420 Take it to the absolute limit, number one.
00:09:31.560 Number two is to make sure we do it with a sense of urgency.
00:09:37.840 Urgency.
00:09:38.480 Today, today, today.
00:09:39.920 Action, action, action.
00:09:42.480 And of course, number three, seize the institutions.
00:09:45.920 Brendan Buck right there, the old comms director for Paul Ryan, is absolutely incorrect.
00:09:50.020 We can do, you can't block the pocket rescissions, and you can't block the rescissions, and you can't block the impoundments.
00:09:57.760 This is all a fight, as we told you about, folks, about the Article II powers of the President of the United States.
00:10:03.360 And yes, he is maximizing it.
00:10:06.180 As we should have defined this, we should have had this argument years ago.
00:10:10.040 We're having it now.
00:10:11.920 And that's why this shutdown is such a winner for us, on many different aspects.
00:10:17.480 Remember, in 2013 and 2018, we had huge wins in the following cycles.
00:10:24.500 We had huge wins in the following cycles.
00:10:27.580 I'll get in that.
00:10:28.020 DeGrasse is going to be with us to go through the redistricting.
00:10:31.020 Matt Bull is going to join us, so we're pretty packed today.
00:10:33.660 In fact, we're very packed.
00:10:34.600 Dr. Peter Navarro from the White House.
00:10:37.200 I want to start with one of my favorites, Dr. Gina Loudon.
00:10:40.440 Gina, this is a story, and I use this as an example of every day President Trump is flooding the zone with actions and activities that would be, in a normal time, would take up two or three days of a news cycle.
00:10:55.540 In this time, it barely gets a mention because there's so much, the scale of what he's doing things at, not just the scope of it, but the scale of it is so huge.
00:11:05.700 And this is called flooding the zone, and you can tell he's broken the media.
00:11:11.800 On MSNBC, they're just in the mumble tank all day long.
00:11:14.680 They don't even know how to comprehend what's happening, and that's why their numbers are imploding.
00:11:19.580 CNN and MSNBC's numbers are imploding.
00:11:21.620 Why?
00:11:21.920 People on the left can't watch it because it's just a confusing morass of just word salads because they can't get a coherent plan, a narrative plan to counter this.
00:11:31.140 I want to talk about this.
00:11:33.060 People warned about this, this Quiet Skies program.
00:11:35.800 People warned about this for years as being a potential issue with civil liberties, and it was turned on MAGA, big league, during the illegitimate Biden regime for people like Tulsi Gabbard herself.
00:11:49.480 Tell people what the program was, how they turned it to basically accuse you guys implicitly of being terrorists, ma'am.
00:11:55.920 Yeah, it's almost unbelievable.
00:11:59.480 When I used to whisper this story, I wasn't proud of what happened to me at all.
00:12:03.560 I was terrified.
00:12:04.320 I lived in terror every single day, afraid that jackbooted thugs were going to knock down my door like they did to so many and arrest me because on January 7th, Steve, I got on a plane a day after January 6th.
00:12:15.820 On January 6th, I simply spoke at a pre-rally event with a lot of other patriots that we all know and love, and January 7th, I got on a plane and was told that I needed to get off of the plane or that I would be arrested by federal agents who would board the plane, clear the plane, and take me into custody.
00:12:36.600 Then I was followed to the ladies' room, Steve, by a TSA agent, I believe, a woman, who continued to harass me, mock me, record me in the ladies' room, and tell me that I was going to, she was going to post it on her Facebook page.
00:12:53.420 You can't make this stuff up.
00:12:54.420 She literally said that to me.
00:12:56.380 And then I was told that I could never, ever in my lifetime be back on federal aviation property and that I was on the terror watch list.
00:13:04.360 And I thought, remember, this is before January 6th, Steve, so I wasn't used to this level of infringement.
00:13:10.940 I thought I was either going crazy or this wasn't really happening or there was some massive mistake, but there was no mistake.
00:13:17.320 The Boston Globe reports, Steve, that 40 to 50 private citizens were added to this list every single day, every single day.
00:13:25.560 And the internal TSA records blacked out the actual numbers, but the estimation is around 5,000 people that were consistently surveilled.
00:13:34.180 And remember, Steve, these were people who never were ever convicted of any kind of a crime or even charged with any kind of a crime, myself included.
00:13:41.380 Wasn't charged for anything.
00:13:42.880 Didn't go in the Capitol.
00:13:44.360 Didn't do anything else.
00:13:45.960 Tulsi Gabbard is one of them.
00:13:47.200 But American citizens, the average American citizen who just maybe got a flight to D.C. that day or something, they were surveilled the entire time.
00:13:56.220 The director of the TSA at the time was David Pekoski.
00:14:00.300 I think we should know that name.
00:14:02.140 And here you go, Steve.
00:14:03.760 And now they want to talk all the time about Donald Trump weaponizing the government or his position, but not against everyday citizens.
00:14:12.100 He's weaponizing his administration against criminals, and that was a big difference there.
00:14:17.200 Dr. Gina, hang on for one second.
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00:18:27.000 Dr. Gina, I just want to make sure, when you said 7th, you spoke in front of the Willard
00:18:32.020 Hotel at a big rally that was put on, on the evening of the 5th, correct?
00:18:37.520 Correct.
00:18:37.780 Because they had, they were going to have speakers, they were going to have speakers
00:18:40.680 with the president of 6th, they decided, no, we just want the president and Rudy, a couple
00:18:44.320 other people, and keep it tight, and the president wanted to have more time.
00:18:49.140 Then, you were just a regular citizen, like everybody, on the 6th, and then you try to
00:18:54.980 go and get on a plane, and they basically walk in the plane and tell you, if you don't
00:19:00.100 clear the plane, they're going to clear the plane, and take you off the plane.
00:19:03.720 And that's on the, that's on the 7th, correct?
00:19:07.500 The day after.
00:19:09.100 And arrest you.
00:19:09.540 Yes, and when I asked why.
00:19:10.940 And what was, and when I asked, go ahead, I'm sorry.
00:19:12.780 What was the charge?
00:19:15.080 That's what I asked.
00:19:15.580 No, what's the charge?
00:19:16.120 And they said this.
00:19:16.700 I don't know what you mean, Steve.
00:19:20.920 When I asked what I, what I did wrong, they, they wouldn't tell me, and they said, this
00:19:25.600 is me resisting authority, and that I was, I was looking at an arrest if I continued.
00:19:30.420 So I just shut up and got off the plane, went to the bathroom to call my husband.
00:19:34.740 They followed me into the bathroom and continued to harass me, and tell me that I was a known
00:19:39.980 or suspected terrorist, and I said, there's some mistake.
00:19:43.860 I mean, like any American would say, there's some mistake.
00:19:47.560 But indeed, there wasn't a mistake.
00:19:49.360 And Steve, to clarify, this was before all of the infringements on our liberty that we
00:19:54.920 became so accustomed to.
00:19:57.260 You know, this was before the January 7th arrests, right?
00:20:00.240 So I had no orientation for what was happening to me.
00:20:03.700 I thought there was a mistake, and I thought I would get it sorted out, and everything would
00:20:07.400 be okay.
00:20:07.840 But it wasn't.
00:20:10.380 It took, Kevin McCarthy actually got involved in your situation and helped get you off the
00:20:15.240 list, correct?
00:20:16.600 Or what we perceive as off the list before President Trump shut it down?
00:20:20.780 Yes, but yes, but it took years, and it took lots of phone calls with lawyers and things,
00:20:26.280 and a lot of sleepless nights, and a lot of security for my children, and all the rest of
00:20:30.840 it, because I didn't know from day to day which night they were going to knock on my door
00:20:34.840 like they did on so many other great American patriots.
00:20:37.840 Dr. Gina, social media, where do people follow you?
00:20:42.780 At RealDrGina.
00:20:46.620 That's it.
00:20:47.120 Dr. Gina, I can tell you, you're a patriot and a hero.
00:20:49.560 That's real, you're a patriot and a hero.
00:20:52.480 That's why they came after you.
00:20:53.500 So keep fighting.
00:20:54.920 Thank you, ma'am.
00:20:55.480 Well, the real heroes are the ones who stood even after they were arrested like your next
00:20:59.660 guest and you, so.
00:21:02.940 Thank you, ma'am.
00:21:03.580 Appreciate it.
00:21:04.100 Every morning before the war room, you get Dr. Gina and the team at American Sunrise for
00:21:09.780 a couple hours.
00:21:10.400 Great show.
00:21:11.000 Great way to start the day, particularly with Dr. Gina's bubbly, sunny personality, which
00:21:16.560 you don't get here in the war room, unless I got Dr. Peter Navarro, my brother.
00:21:21.160 So, Navarro, I'm going to do this in reverse, because I had you on here about the shutdown
00:21:24.240 and all that, but I got to, since this is about the quiet skies and that finally Trump
00:21:29.260 shut it down, and the reason I started like that is President Trump, you guys are working
00:21:33.780 on things at such scope and scale and urgency that there's a dozen things every day that
00:21:39.760 President Trump's doing that would, in the old days, drive a news cycle and you don't
00:21:43.600 even hear about it.
00:21:44.360 When is this quiet skies?
00:21:46.120 But with Dr. Gina, they jerked her off a plane, said they were going to arrest her
00:21:50.100 if she didn't get off, and then followed her around and threatened her with arrest.
00:21:54.240 At Reagan National, just like they picked these spots to humiliate you, because they
00:21:59.820 understand it's one of the busiest airports in the world of prominent people, right?
00:22:03.840 This is why they came in.
00:22:05.540 You are one of the most important figures for what you've done for the American people
00:22:09.700 under President Trump, really working with President Trump for 10 years, to do more
00:22:14.180 for working men and women in this country than any other single individual in this country
00:22:18.240 except for Donald Trump.
00:22:19.640 You, Dr. Peter Navarro, okay?
00:22:21.440 You've dedicated your life to this.
00:22:22.800 They dragged you off like a common, like a murderer or terrorist and shackled you in
00:22:29.000 the, it shackled you in front of everybody to humiliate you and break you.
00:22:33.000 Did they not, sir?
00:22:36.680 That's exactly what they did, Steve.
00:22:40.500 We found a new bombshell last week that kind of tells you exactly what was going on with
00:22:48.020 Dr. Geno, with me and others.
00:22:50.700 I think you've seen this, Steve.
00:22:52.280 Cash Patel found in one of those burn bags an after-action memo, they call it, which reveals
00:22:59.120 that there were over 200 FBI agents deployed to J6 that day.
00:23:06.020 199 of them didn't want to be there because they weren't adequately trained for the job.
00:23:13.220 They were put at great risk.
00:23:15.160 And in the after-action report, what's so fascinating is that they uniformly said that the Washington
00:23:23.680 office of the FBI had become just woke partisan bias.
00:23:31.420 One of the agents contrasted the stand-down nature of what happened in Portland with Antifa
00:23:37.820 and BLM and all that, and they had not touched, they were told to stand down on that, versus
00:23:42.440 what happened on J6.
00:23:44.500 And it speaks to what was going on with Dr. Geno and I, because it was the mindset.
00:23:51.600 I mean, think about this, Steve.
00:23:53.760 It's like Mr. Comey just gets indicted for two felonies, 10 years possible in prison, right?
00:24:03.200 What is he going to do?
00:24:04.340 He gets to go what's called self-surrender.
00:24:06.700 He's going to just report without the handcuffs, without the leg irons, and it's going to be
00:24:13.320 him sitting there doing his thing.
00:24:16.080 Whereas with me, a misdemeanor, much less possible prison time, they sent five armed FBI agents
00:24:25.440 out to grab me in a gangway.
00:24:28.020 And actually, next week, there's going to be some blockbuster news.
00:24:30.960 I don't know exactly what it is, but I've been told there's more that's going to be revealed
00:24:35.320 about that leg irons arrest.
00:24:37.900 And this is the world we live in, Steve.
00:24:41.360 And you and I went to prison.
00:24:44.100 Well, hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:24:45.880 John Eastman losing their bar cards.
00:24:47.880 People have been shot.
00:24:49.940 Hang on.
00:24:51.160 It's the world we lived in until President Trump said, no, I'm coming back because I got
00:24:56.140 to sort this mess out, and we're going to sort it out.
00:24:59.220 And that's why I had Geno on.
00:25:00.040 You guys are doing 20 things every day to sort this mess out that the media, we came
00:25:05.720 and curated because of the scale that you guys are doing, rewiring the world's economy,
00:25:10.700 bringing jobs back here, right?
00:25:13.060 Changing the whole geopolitical order.
00:25:15.680 It's shutting, you know, now going to deconstruct the administrative state, which I'll get to
00:25:19.400 in a second.
00:25:20.000 The scale and the scope of what the Trump administration is doing is so huge.
00:25:24.720 And with such urgency that 20 things that would drive a news cycle for days in the old
00:25:31.200 days don't even get a mention.
00:25:32.780 And this is why.
00:25:33.660 So it was the world we lived in, and it was a world that was going to get more oppressive,
00:25:38.620 more oppressive until President Trump came back.
00:25:40.960 And I just hope we start getting the indictments.
00:25:43.540 I know you're pressed for time.
00:25:44.460 It's a beautiful day at the White House.
00:25:45.620 By the way, this is.
00:25:46.900 Dr. Navarro.
00:25:47.740 This is the Bannon thing where things happen, you know, in days, things happen that are years.
00:25:54.720 And that's what happens here.
00:25:56.460 I mean, the pace in the first eight months of this administration, we're getting more
00:26:00.420 done in eight months than presidents get sometimes in eight years.
00:26:05.240 I would say every time in eight years.
00:26:07.240 This is truly remarkable.
00:26:08.760 We're totally restructuring the international trade system, which is amazing.
00:26:13.660 Totally restructuring this illegal immigration, getting to the heart of this weaponized lawfare
00:26:19.400 against the whole people of America, really.
00:26:23.000 So it is an honor and a pleasure to be here and talking about this, Steve.
00:26:28.160 And in the midst of this government shutdown, I would be remiss not to point out.
00:26:32.900 Do we have time?
00:26:33.660 Let's be very careful here what's going on.
00:26:35.840 Yeah, go ahead.
00:26:36.360 The Democrats are trying to make this about health care.
00:26:39.040 It's about health care for illegal aliens.
00:26:42.240 And this is just going to be another example where the Democrats are totally out of touch
00:26:47.020 with the American people.
00:26:48.000 I mean, it's like over 80 percent, maybe higher, of the American people don't think
00:26:53.120 illegal aliens should get health care, particularly when Americans are struggling for that.
00:26:59.060 But McLaughlin came out with a very interesting poll yesterday, which basically says we are
00:27:04.400 now a nation that has bifurcated clearly in the media.
00:27:08.800 You know, if you're listening to CNN, Bloomberg, MSNBC, CNBC, you're getting the message that
00:27:16.500 this is about health care.
00:27:17.880 OK, that's what they're force feeding when the facts are that this is about health care
00:27:22.900 for illegal aliens.
00:27:24.180 Two hundred billion dollars, Steve.
00:27:26.240 Two hundred billion dollars these Democrats want.
00:27:29.620 And people kind of scratch their head.
00:27:31.520 It's like 80 percent of the American people don't want that.
00:27:34.560 But the problem is you have concentrations of progressive sentiment in certain states.
00:27:41.340 Like California, it's 27 percent people foreign born, 55 percent Latino and Asian.
00:27:49.220 And that's a different world than the rest of the country.
00:27:54.240 So you get different points of view clashing here.
00:27:56.880 But the lies got to stop, Steve.
00:27:58.980 You got to get to the bottom of it.
00:28:00.560 Hey, Doc, Doc Navarro, hang on for one second.
00:28:03.440 I know you got to go back to work over at the EOB, but just hang on for a second.
00:28:06.540 I just want to hold you for a minute or two on the other side.
00:28:12.440 The select committee on the CCP is doing amazing work.
00:28:17.540 Another underappreciated, underreported story next in the war room.
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00:29:48.600 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:29:51.180 Dr. Navarro had to bounce.
00:29:57.060 He had to get called into a meeting over there, which you can expect.
00:30:01.340 I mean, this guy, you know, I've known Peter for now years and years and years and years and years.
00:30:06.600 He's a seven-day-a-week guy.
00:30:07.680 I think in the first term, I'm not sure he took a day off.
00:30:11.860 I think he worked all four years, seven days a week.
00:30:15.500 He's an extraordinary individual.
00:30:17.300 Like I said, one of the most important individuals in the country.
00:30:20.840 He's been President Trump's wingman on manufacturing, bringing jobs back, taking on China, the CCP.
00:30:28.000 And knowing that, for a misdemeanor, for a misdemeanor, knowing that, they went to Reagan Airport, dragged him off a plane, and shackled him.
00:30:39.180 When I say shackled, I mean around the waist shackles and the leg irons in front of the world to humiliate and break him.
00:30:45.880 And they did.
00:30:46.360 They sent him to prison to break him.
00:30:47.500 They didn't.
00:30:49.080 That's what you have to read.
00:30:50.040 Get the book.
00:30:50.800 He went to prison because you don't have to.
00:30:52.580 And it's very powerful.
00:30:53.480 And you better read it because I'm telling you, and this is why I got the grass up here in the second hour, we don't get these redistrictings done.
00:31:01.480 If you don't think they're not coming for you, not coming for you, you are dead wrong.
00:31:07.280 Hakeem Jeffries said it flat out.
00:31:09.580 First thing they're going to do, and Johnson's speaker finally agreed with us yesterday, he came out and said, hey, first thing they're going to do if they win the House is impeach Donald Trump.
00:31:17.980 And the whole thing's going to change.
00:31:19.300 The whole Trump revolution will grind to a halt.
00:31:21.520 That's why these midterms couldn't be more important.
00:31:25.120 Go get Navarro's book.
00:31:26.640 Do not think this game is over.
00:31:28.880 There's a lot of folks I know in the MAGA movement just leaning on their rakes saying, hey, Trump's doing everything.
00:31:33.280 I got that.
00:31:34.020 It's unbelievable what's happening.
00:31:36.380 But we've got to make it.
00:31:37.280 That's why I keep saying seize the institutions.
00:31:39.020 We have to make this permanent.
00:31:40.640 So it cannot be reversed.
00:31:42.040 And that's why we're at Russ Vot.
00:31:44.100 I'm so glad the president put out the true social this morning on Project 2025, the great project.
00:31:50.080 He said the Project 2025 fame, Russ Vot.
00:31:52.640 He's one of the architects.
00:31:53.980 And we're going to get in some serious deconstruction of the administrative state, I think, starting this afternoon with Russ Vot.
00:32:02.400 Congressman Molinar joins us.
00:32:04.280 He's the chairman of the Select Committee on China.
00:32:06.480 And I got to say something, Congressman.
00:32:08.640 Of everything going on, the work you and your committee are doing is among, if not the most important work that is happening on Capitol Hill right now.
00:32:18.160 It's serious.
00:32:19.080 It's detailed.
00:32:20.020 And you are properly addressing the external existential threat, and that, quite frankly, Major League Internal to the American people.
00:32:31.940 And that's the Chinese Communist Party.
00:32:33.220 First off, talk to us about your committee.
00:32:34.800 We want this, hopefully, to be a series of times we have you on here to talk about the great work.
00:32:39.300 But the Select Committee, what is it, how is it made up, and what is your role?
00:32:43.560 Well, first of all, thank you for having me, Steve.
00:32:46.980 And as you point out, I chair the Select Committee on our strategic competition with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:32:54.080 And this is a focus on our relationship with China.
00:32:58.720 It covers our national security, our economic relationship, human rights abuses, the entire framework of this relationship.
00:33:08.480 You know, China has a history of 4,000 years.
00:33:12.480 But the Chinese Communist Party is a threat, you know, around the world and even on our shores.
00:33:20.360 And so we need to make sure that we are prepared with our national defense.
00:33:25.580 Also, we are in a strong economic competition.
00:33:29.280 I commend President Trump for his leadership in this area.
00:33:32.620 But we have a lot at stake.
00:33:34.580 And that's why our focus is entirely on this relationship with the Chinese.
00:33:39.380 Why have we gotten into a situation where we helped finance them?
00:33:46.160 We gave them World Trade Organization authorization, most favored nation.
00:33:50.640 They still borrow from the World Bank as a third world nation.
00:33:52.860 How did we turn every institution in the West, in the free market capitalist West, into a situation to assist them on their growth when the CCP is – and this is actually without argument – is more murderous than the Nazis, the fascists, imperial Japan, the Bolsheviks, the Soviets.
00:34:15.220 Roll them all up.
00:34:17.140 These people have killed, documented, have killed hundreds of millions of Lao Bajing, of their own Chinese.
00:34:23.040 How is your committee – how did we get to the situation where institutions formed by American leadership and financed by the American taxpayer get into a situation to assist the Chinese Communist Party, not simply in their rise to power, but in their iron grip over the Chinese people, sir?
00:34:41.760 Well, as you point out, you know, this relationship has evolved.
00:34:46.800 At first, you know, they portrayed themselves as sort of this benign developing nation, and we bought into that.
00:34:54.580 And quite frankly, our private sector viewed it as a huge expanding market and the opportunity to lower production costs and sell products.
00:35:04.940 And as we've seen under Xi Jinping, the true nature of the Chinese Communist Party has become more aggressive and threatening their neighbors, as well as our interests around the world.
00:35:17.560 And so I think it was a hope that they would become – as they became wealthier, they'd become more democratic, more freedom-loving.
00:35:25.920 It's actually been just the opposite.
00:35:29.280 And so our policies need to change as a result of that and reflect the reality of this relationship.
00:35:37.820 The pressure on you guys – I know this from working with President Trump the first term and then being, you know, close to the team the second term.
00:35:44.620 The pressure from the business community and the tech community really hasn't changed.
00:35:49.600 Wall Street and Silicon Valley still look at it as a partnership, right?
00:35:54.600 And that's the pressure on American policy.
00:35:56.880 American policy isn't captured by a business community and a finance community that doesn't see the Chinese Communist Party as an existential threat to Lao Bajing, its own people, and an existential threat to the American people and its liberties.
00:36:14.000 And the reason is they can make a ton of money.
00:36:16.820 So how do we break that?
00:36:18.740 How do we actually have Capitol Hill free from that pressure and the administration free from that pressure?
00:36:24.600 Well, it's a great point.
00:36:26.880 Our goal is to bring clarity and bring this to light.
00:36:31.820 And so, for instance, when JPMorgan Chase and the Bank of America funded the largest IPO of cattle, a Chinese battery manufacturer that's linked with the Chinese Communist Party and supply chains relying on slave labor linked to the Chinese military.
00:36:50.740 You know, you have American investors investing in a company that actually could be developing technologies that would be used against our men and women in the military.
00:37:03.300 Same thing with some of these technologies that are used for surveillance and the abuse of the Uyghurs and Tibetans, other people who are threatened by the Chinese Communist Party.
00:37:16.240 And unfortunately, our taxpayer dollars, our financial instruments are all being used to advance this interest.
00:37:25.160 So we've been working on export controls that protect our national security.
00:37:30.460 We've been trying to highlight the fact that our investor dollars should not be going to fund the Chinese military.
00:37:36.660 But you're right. There's an attractive financial motive for people who are in it to make money in the short term and are not considering the long term consequences of these actions.
00:37:47.780 I want to stay on. I want to stay on this point because 100 years from now, they're going to write this up like a Greek tragedy where, as you know, the tragic figure hit his his greatest attribute turns out to be a weak.
00:38:02.420 It also has an underside that's a weakness that's used to destroy him.
00:38:05.620 What you just said right there, it's not simply Wall Street.
00:38:09.320 They're investing the pension. All these institutional investors are investing pension money.
00:38:13.500 So essentially, we have a system now where the American people, their pension money is being used to fund military technology used against us in the defense of Taiwan in the three island chain in the Pacific and obviously around the world.
00:38:30.620 But also to build industries that it makes it's logical to ship the manufacturing jobs to China so the slave labor can work for one tenth of what Americans do and financed by the American people.
00:38:42.720 That money is not BlackRock's money. It's not Blackstone's money. It's not Larry Fink's money. It's pension fund money of the American people.
00:38:51.880 That's the tragic nature of this. The American people are financing their own demise and the really the economic obliteration of their children.
00:39:01.160 How does that message not how do you and I understand the pressure you guys against, but how does that message not the message every day that we force the technology oligarchs and we force Wall Street to have to defend, sir?
00:39:14.020 I think your point is excellent. We need to highlight this and make people aware of it.
00:39:21.180 And that's been probably the biggest challenge because this is such an important issue, yet often other issues of the day crowded out in terms of urgency.
00:39:32.120 And so we need to continue to focus on this with a spotlight and raise these issues and help people throughout America understand this.
00:39:41.980 One thing I wanted to tell you about is recently, you know, in Philadelphia, they raised the flag of the Chinese Communist Party honoring the Chinese National Day, which was the foundation of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:39:57.700 This is in the city where our Declaration of Independence, endowed by our creator with an alienable rights to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.
00:40:07.040 Our Constitution was developed there.
00:40:09.720 And when you consider that flag raised over the city hall of this great city, it's the example of how these relationships need to change because it's been totally co-opted by the United Front operation of the Chinese Communist Party influencing here in America.
00:40:31.160 We were going to bring it up. It's outrageous. There ought to be a penalty for that.
00:40:37.900 But it also shows you how powerful they are in subversion and how powerful. It's one of the key tools of unrestricted warfare.
00:40:45.120 Last question. I know you've got to bounce. And we've been a huge supporter of Bridge Colby and the kind of new philosophy over the Defense Department, Pete Hegseth.
00:40:51.920 There's a rumor coming out that the annual strategic review, the national defense strategy, and this is one that we changed in the first term from the global war on terror to great power struggle focused on the CCP.
00:41:05.660 Now, a lot of the globalists at the time made us put Russia in there too fine, but it focused for the first time on the Chinese Communist Party as the existential threat.
00:41:15.360 Our understanding is that the new strategy may actually have that. It's not a global threat.
00:41:20.980 It's only a threat potentially for East Asia and for that part of the Eurasian landmass.
00:41:26.120 One, do you know anything about that? And is your committee going to come out with a counter or work with Bridge Colby and the guys of the Pentagon and say,
00:41:33.120 hey, look, this is much bigger than an East Asia problem?
00:41:36.960 Yeah, no, I agree. This is bigger than an East Asia problem.
00:41:40.780 When you, you know, the Belt and Road Initiative that's going on all over the world that China is funding, you know, using ports for dual use, military, commercial, their influence around the world is significant.
00:41:54.040 And so it's more than a regional. I do agree that we need to get our regional partners stepping up their game in terms of their defenses.
00:42:02.080 And that's something the U.S. could do, just like we're encouraging NATO to supply more of their own defense.
00:42:09.720 But at the end of the day, we are competing with a very aggressive global power who is intent on setting the rules for the road.
00:42:19.300 And so we cannot ignore that. We need to be vigilant.
00:42:22.420 And in the case of Taiwan, we need to follow the Taiwan Relations Act to help them defend against China taking them over.
00:42:32.500 Amen. Congressman, social media and how do people get more access to the select committee and the great work you guys are doing?
00:42:39.400 You know, you can, our select committee on the ccp.house.gov is our website.
00:42:47.520 And I would encourage people to go there and they can access the information that I'm sharing with you today and also follow the work we're doing as a committee.
00:42:58.180 Congressman, thank you. Thank you for the work you're doing over there.
00:43:00.400 Thanks for coming on and sharing that with the War Room Posse today. Appreciate you.
00:43:04.040 All right. You bet. Thank you, Steve. Take care.
00:43:06.100 Great. Some of the most important work going on at Capitol Hill right now.
00:43:12.020 And look, you know, the War Room and ourselves, we consider ourselves the leader and this is the leading platform for the anti-CCP movement.
00:43:21.660 That doesn't always gel with the administration.
00:43:24.960 Like I say, President Trump has got to balance. He's trying to balance everything.
00:43:29.280 I mean, this is one of the reasons I think he does look a little tired.
00:43:32.240 He's doing everything.
00:43:33.040 Look, his side deal now is trying to negotiate with the Democrats when he's doing everything else, stopping wars, building the economy, stopping immigration, stopping this internal threat we have.
00:43:46.520 Short break.
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00:45:01.060 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:45:08.360 Congressman Andy Biggs joins us.
00:45:10.240 I'm going to ask you about the shutdown in a second.
00:45:11.880 Of course, you're one of the best deficit hawks up on Capitol Hill.
00:45:16.420 But I want to talk about you're continuing.
00:45:18.900 You happen to continue the Charlie Kirk tour.
00:45:21.120 Talk to me about, I guess you guys were at Utah State with Tyler the other night.
00:45:25.640 Talk to me about it.
00:45:27.940 Yeah, great event.
00:45:29.900 6,500 people in that.
00:45:31.800 It's their biggest campus event they've ever had.
00:45:34.900 Mostly young people, mostly college students, Steve.
00:45:40.560 My guess is about 5,500 of them were college students.
00:45:43.260 Maybe you had 500 to 1,000 that were, you know, faculty, friends, family, whatever.
00:45:49.600 It was, the energy was really electric and, you know, just really powerful stuff.
00:45:58.820 And the commitment that these kids had, you know, the biggest line of the night came from
00:46:05.120 Jason Chaffetz, who said that you don't want men with junk in women's bathrooms, you know,
00:46:10.680 or women's locker rooms.
00:46:12.020 Everybody erupted and went crazy.
00:46:13.500 But they also went crazy.
00:46:15.560 It was filled with USA chants.
00:46:17.280 It was filled with Charlie Kirk chants and Donald Trump chants.
00:46:22.240 These were patriots, Steve.
00:46:24.140 And this is a new generation, and this really is a turning point for the USA.
00:46:30.920 When you say that, you were very close to Charlie.
00:46:34.220 You're very close to turning point, Tyler and the entire team.
00:46:36.980 What is the lesson?
00:46:37.780 When you say it's a turning point, what do you mean by that?
00:46:41.000 I think it is too, but I love it when other people come to the same conclusion.
00:46:45.160 Why do you think it's a turning point, and what does that mean for us?
00:46:47.640 Well, for one thing, it's a turning point because the generation that is turning is the youthful
00:46:55.580 generation, right?
00:46:56.600 I mean, they're young, they're coming out and coming to conservative ideals.
00:47:01.820 So they're coming to God, they're coming to country, they're coming to family, you know,
00:47:06.420 the values that really made America great.
00:47:09.640 And I see it as the number of people that want to be in this movement now has grown by
00:47:21.400 exponential bounds.
00:47:23.380 So, for instance, there's virtually every high school and every college campus has people
00:47:30.340 on it that say, we want to be affiliated with this program, the Turning Point USA program,
00:47:39.340 because it speaks to them.
00:47:42.040 And that's the youth movement, in my mind, that's going to change the country.
00:47:46.500 I mean, our generation, Steve, what you do is incredibly important, and we need our generation
00:47:51.240 to fight as much as we possibly can.
00:47:53.860 But the world belongs to the youth, and youth are going to actually turn this thing around.
00:48:00.340 Charlie was one of the things we spent a lot of time on.
00:48:04.180 We hired him at Breitbart as a writer.
00:48:06.920 I think it was his first job in kind of politics or official politics.
00:48:09.860 And he came out of the Tea Party.
00:48:11.500 And Charlie, I think he used to be on Glenn Beck or St. Glenn Beck information when Glenn
00:48:17.060 Beck, back in the Tea Party days, was so focused on debt and deficit.
00:48:20.620 And Charlie used to love it on the show because he would watch War Room in the morning.
00:48:24.020 He would text me all the time.
00:48:25.340 We were on debt and deficit.
00:48:27.280 We're in the middle of this fight right now.
00:48:28.900 And the government shut down.
00:48:30.840 So walk me through, because you're one of our smartest deficit hawks, and we're going
00:48:34.860 to lose you when you become governor of Arizona.
00:48:37.620 So walk us through, what is the importance of this moment, not just for deconstruction in
00:48:42.800 the administrative state, but about rescissions, pocket rescissions, impoundments, and getting
00:48:47.800 our hands around the deficit situation, sir?
00:48:50.500 There's so much to unpack there, Steve.
00:48:54.080 But let's just say that the Democrats, they kind of played into President Trump's hand.
00:49:01.360 But here's the deal.
00:49:03.280 Here's the bad news.
00:49:05.120 That a CR that is at Pelosi, Schumer, and Biden levels is the cheapest spend in Washington,
00:49:12.480 D.C. today.
00:49:13.400 So that's out there because the Republicans in Congress actually proposed budgets that
00:49:19.680 were higher in spending.
00:49:21.040 So we actually came out a little bit better doing this.
00:49:24.480 But what's happening is the administration is doing rescissions.
00:49:28.780 That means that they are actually rescinding spending.
00:49:33.180 So they've taken money that was appropriate to them, and they said, we don't need it.
00:49:36.860 We're not going to use it.
00:49:37.660 They did pocket rescissions where they just said, we're not going to spend it, and they
00:49:41.720 did it within 45 days, which the law allows.
00:49:44.480 And the next thing that you have going here is you have this, the narrative itself that
00:49:55.840 allows the president to actually come in and actually start reducing the size and scope
00:50:02.880 of the bureaucracy.
00:50:03.540 So you have literally hundreds of thousands of people who've been designated by their agencies
00:50:11.260 to be non-essential.
00:50:14.240 That is to say, they're unnecessary.
00:50:16.060 We don't need you to keep the government open.
00:50:18.220 We don't need you.
00:50:19.220 It is as if someone is saying in British terms, you're redundant.
00:50:23.380 We just simply don't need you anymore.
00:50:25.740 That allows the president to come in, and Russ Vult said yesterday he's going to come in,
00:50:31.660 and they're going to start riffing people.
00:50:34.940 And it can't be a riff and then restore, right?
00:50:37.760 This has to be serious things.
00:50:39.560 And you look at them, you say, you really are redundant.
00:50:42.020 And what that happens, it doesn't just take away the personnel.
00:50:46.120 It actually defangs the agencies themselves so that the agencies cannot continue to abuse
00:50:53.080 the American people because they just don't have the people to abuse the American people.
00:50:56.260 And this is really big stuff.
00:50:59.320 It also is a change in direction fundamentally.
00:51:04.200 And we thank the Democrats because they walked right into this.
00:51:09.660 Walked right into it.
00:51:10.820 It's amazing.
00:51:12.200 I know you've got to bounce.
00:51:13.720 Social media, how do people follow you, your new campaign, and also all your work on being
00:51:18.400 a deficit hawk?
00:51:19.200 So if you go to bigsforarizona.com, you're going to see me on the unofficial side.
00:51:26.000 That's hopefully making me a governor.
00:51:28.240 But if you go to bigs.house.gov, you can see everything that we've got that we're putting
00:51:34.680 out.
00:51:35.660 And just remember this.
00:51:38.520 The Democrats made their blunder because they're so blinded.
00:51:42.600 First of all, Steve, real quick.
00:51:44.260 Like, this is Chuck Schumer getting attacked from the left, so he's responding.
00:51:51.140 This is also the left saying, we have to protect illegal aliens.
00:51:56.140 That's it, Steve.
00:51:56.920 That's where they are, and that's why they're such a mess right now.
00:52:01.860 Congressman, it's not if you're going to be governor of Arizona.
00:52:05.100 You are going to be the governor of Arizona.
00:52:07.720 Arizona needs any bigs like tomorrow.
00:52:11.780 Good luck, sir.
00:52:12.680 Looking forward to seeing you back here.
00:52:14.620 Congressman Andy Biggs.
00:52:17.720 We're losing some good ones.
00:52:18.940 You talk about deficit hawks, Chip, Andy Biggs.
00:52:24.440 It's going to be tough to replace.
00:52:27.300 But I know their states need them.
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