Stephen K. Bannon, Matt Boyle, National Political Editor at Breitbart, and Alex De Grasse, Senior Strategist at The Weekly Standard join me in the War Room to talk about the latest government shutdown and why it s actually not so bad.
00:02:03.000Because people that don't pay attention to politics, the media makes such a big deal of a government shutdown that people didn't start to, you know, start to open up and listen to it.
00:02:15.000And people started to understand about Obamacare and other issues.
00:02:19.000And we had a sweeping victory in 2014 in the midterms.
00:02:23.000In 2018, when President Trump had the longest government shutdown ever, after Nancy Pelosi took back the House in November that year.
00:02:31.000Now she wasn't even in office, but we knew that there was going to be, they basically were not going to give President Trump a penny for the border wall.
00:02:45.000In 2020, and let me be blunt, not only did Trump win the presidency that was stolen from him, you can tell he won the presidency because we picked up 14 seats, 14 House seats, net 12.
00:02:57.000And you look through the districts and the bellwether districts and winning these seats, you see how Trump won.
00:03:03.000But we still crammed, we jammed Pelosi.
00:03:08.000Because people were actually, you know, saw the logic of securing the border and building a border wall.
00:03:14.000Now, the very issue that the illegitimate Biden regime, when they stole the presidency, opened the border to allow 10 to 15 million illegal aliens in the country in a very organized manner.
00:03:25.000The exact thing, wait for it, that President Trump is now having the generals and everybody focus on.
00:03:31.000You're going to Memphis, you're going to Portland.
00:03:33.000It's all about the mass deportations of the illegal alien evaders that came on Biden's watch.
00:03:39.000And let me give you a new forecast for the future.
00:03:42.000They understand even more than the first term in an 18, because Trump is working at such a scale, such a scope, and with such urgency on fundamental things that are not going to be reversible.
00:03:56.000That even more than 18, when they walked, I told people in the summer of that year, they're out in Iowa, walking precincts, they're canvassing precincts, and they're telling people, we're going to impeach Trump.
00:04:07.000And that's why they outworked us in 18.
00:04:09.000And it was a lack of focus, but also they outworked us in 18.
00:04:12.000That's why I think they picked up 35 or 40 seats.
00:04:15.000At the first opportunity, the first pretense, the stupid call to Zelensky, they used to impeach a president of the United States.
00:04:22.000Not that they could remove him from office, but they thought it would chop-lock him.
00:04:26.000They thought it was chop-lock him in his reelection.
00:04:29.000Hence, the very start of the show, I finally realized, I said, we've got to do something here, because nobody's covering this.
00:04:35.000Where we are today, as Hakeem and Jeffrey, as they sit there, and they're about to get smash-mouthed over the next 72 hours, they are apoplectic, and particularly the left wing.
00:04:47.000The hatred on Trump is going to go to levels that you've never seen before.
00:04:52.000And their entire focus is to remove him from office or shut down the Trump revolution after the midterm elections in 2018.
00:04:59.000Take your number two pencil out and put it in your book.
00:05:04.000Our leading defense of this right now that must become a priority, not just for the war room, but across the board, from the White House to Capitol Hill to the committee, the House committee on re-elections, is these redistricting fights now, now, now.
00:05:25.000Now, 2026 is going to be one in the next three or four months.
00:05:44.000Because Gavin Newsom, the next big battle on this is for November in California.
00:05:50.000Newsom's entire presidency is not, he can't sell the California model because it's a total disaster.
00:05:56.000What he's going to sell is I'm the guy that stood up to Trump.
00:05:59.000I'm the guy that blunted Trump and I set the predicate for the impeachment of Trump come the midterm elections.
00:06:05.000Alex DeGrasse, your efforts have been monumental.
00:06:08.000Quite frankly, we would not have the House, it was not for this young man waking the nation up or the MAGA movement to redistricting in 2022.
00:06:16.000Those seats that we, remember, everybody in Tallahassee, they had all, all the state capitals make deals on this.
00:07:08.000If it does not, if we don't have the fair reallocation because of demographic shifts in the nation and in states and in states.
00:07:17.000As sure as the turning of the earth, we're going to lose the midterm and their first action, Hakeem Jeffries is going to take in the first 30 days as Speaker of the House is the impeachment of Donald Trump.
00:07:30.000Now, they're not going to remove him from office, but they're going to grind the Trump revolution to a halt.
00:07:36.000Alex DeGrasse, is anything I said on that incorrect, sir?
00:07:40.000Well, everything is right in terms of what we're up against, Stephen.
00:07:43.000I think there's a lot of complacency and people think, hey, you know, everything's fine.
00:07:47.000We're doing this and that, but it's really not enough.
00:07:50.000And so I've got the master list here and there's a lot of people working on this.
00:07:54.000I know we're going to get some other people on the show, state reps.
00:07:57.000Hey, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on one second.
00:08:00.000I want to, if you got the map, we're going to go through it.
00:08:02.000I want to bring Bolin just for an overview.
00:08:04.000Boyle, you are the best at doing this for a living.
00:08:07.000Is this the fight we have to have now on these redistricting to make sure?
00:08:11.000Because Hakeem Jeffries and every day, folks, what's about to happen in them in the next 72 hours, they're going to get crushed.
00:08:19.000They're going to get crushed in this shutdown and the seething anger and hatred of these people against Trump and the Trump movement is unbounded and it's going to get worse.
00:08:29.000Is, do you agree that this is the fight that we have to have now, sir, to secure the 2026 midterm?
00:08:35.000Yeah, well, both ways, both sides are looking to put the other side in checkmate, right?
00:08:40.000Like, so this is big battle of checks between the left and the right.
00:08:44.000Right now, the left is in check, right?
00:08:47.000Like, I mean, in the, the, the reason being is, is that the Democrats walked their, their side into this buzz saw that's coming from OMB and from rest vote.
00:08:57.000Um, they made some really bad mistakes in the last election.
00:09:01.000They made some bad mistakes over the last couple of years.
00:09:04.000Um, but at the same time, they're banking on, on the Democrat side, retaking the house.
00:09:09.000You hear people like Eric Swalwell talk about this, like as though a prophecy, right?
00:09:14.000Like he's talks about it as though, uh, when the Democrats retake the house, like in his interviews, right?
00:09:22.000And, and, and, and by the way, to your point about how they, they intend to shut down the Trump revolution, they're not just going to try to shut down Trump in the government.
00:09:29.000Uh, Swalwell has said repeatedly, remember, he's a member of the oversight committee, right?
00:09:34.000Like, so he's going to be a major part of this.
00:09:36.000If they do take the house back, uh, what they're going to do is they're going to go after anybody that's made deals with Trump, like the universities, like, uh, businesses, like other countries, right?
00:09:47.000Like, so what they want to do is they want to shut down, uh, president Trump's ability, uh, to, uh, operate out there.
00:09:54.000Uh, in, in, in addition to that, uh, but again, at the same time, the, the Republicans can win this thing, right?
00:10:02.000And this is what I keep trying to trying to tell everybody.
00:10:04.000This is not a normal, the pendulum swings election.
00:10:07.000Like normally speaking in a, uh, in, in a midterm election, especially after such a, a crushing defeat of the Democrats, like in 2024, uh, that the Democrats would be storming to 30 to 40 house seats, like happened in 2018.
00:10:23.000That that's what should be happening for the Democrats in a normal historical environment.
00:10:31.000I think that the Republicans can win and they need to start acting like it, right?
00:10:36.000Like, so you do see some people out there, uh, you know, acting like they can win.
00:10:40.000Uh, but I think that the Republicans can, can certainly defy it's happened twice in the last century, right?
00:10:46.000Like, you know, in the, where a president who has both chambers of Congress actually increases their majorities, uh, after winning the white house in the, in the midterm elections.
00:10:56.000The first was FDR after 1932 and 1934.
00:11:00.000Uh, you know, and that was in the aftermath of course, of the great depression, the new deal was coming in.
00:11:05.000Uh, so the, you know, really historical time.
00:11:08.000Uh, and then the other time was, uh, after nine 11 with George Bush, right?
00:11:12.000Like had Republican majorities and expanded them both in the house and the Senate.
00:11:18.000If you look at the map and you look at the numbers, this is no done deal by the way, but the Republicans can do that.
00:11:25.000This can be one of those moments in American history, uh, that we look back on where it's the third in the last century.
00:11:32.000Uh, and you know, it w it's, it's been what less than a month since our great friend, Charlie Kirk was killed.
00:11:37.000He talked about his literally the name of his organization is turning point, right?
00:11:42.000Like this is, can be a turning point in the war, uh, the we've talked about for the last 15 years, right?
00:11:48.000Like those of us who have been fighting the radical left all the way back to Andrew Breitbart and before that, uh, the, um, uh, you know, we, we talk about this in terms of a war.
00:11:57.000We, we can win the war, not just a battle.
00:12:01.000We can win the war if we win in 26 and then again in 28, and then that sets up the census in 2030, right?
00:12:10.000Like, and that's where the real fight is, right?
00:12:12.000Like, so the Republicans have to hold their majorities in 26 in both the house and the Senate.
00:12:17.000They've got to hold them again in 28 and then hold the white house.
00:12:21.000And if they do that, then in 2030, they get to not count illegal aliens ever again in the redistricting, uh, which they do right now.
00:12:29.000Right. The federal government currently counts illegal aliens in the apportionment of congressional districts.
00:12:36.000Like remember the three fifth seal and so on and so forth, right?
00:12:39.000Right. They, they teach you in civics class, right?
00:12:41.000Like the, that's, that's what this is, but the Democrats are, are, are, are like the modern day slave traders using illegal aliens.
00:12:49.000Like the, uh, slave owners use slaves to, to, to pad their congressional district numbers in blue states across the country.
00:12:57.000If they are not able to do that anymore, uh, after 2030, but for the, that to happen, those things have to happen.
00:13:06.000And that is checkmate. That is when the Democrat party drops the nonsense.
00:13:10.000If they lose all the way through then, uh, and then actually reforms themselves and does some of the things that like somebody like a John Fetterman is talking about.
00:13:19.000They can't, they can't reform. They become, I think I love it all.
00:13:23.000I would just say at the end of it, they become the wigs.
00:13:26.000They become a party that just fades, fades from the fades from the scene, the wigs.
00:13:30.000Okay. Alex DeGrasse is about to walk us through what that battlefield looks like.
00:13:37.000And it's incumbent upon us to take the leadership here to make sure that people, Matt's a hundred percent correct.
00:13:45.000There's so many of our colleagues or so many of the MAGA movement that are just every day looking what President Trump's doing, saying, this is great.
00:13:51.000He's in charge against us. And that's all true, but it's incumbent upon us to look down range at what the enemy is doing.
00:13:59.000And you say, Steve, how can you call Hakeem Jeffries? This, they're the surface of a radical neo-Marxist party.
00:14:06.000Just look at, look at, look at, they're all bending the knee to mom Donnie in New York City.
00:14:12.000And look at the candidates they're putting up, the working families party throughout the country.
00:14:17.000They've got a, they've got what a, a, a, they have these radicals all over the country.
00:14:23.000They're sponsoring now for elective office.
00:14:27.000It's coming and it's coming to a congressional district near you.
00:14:30.000Alex DeGrasse, Matt Boyle, after a short commercial break, we'll return with the great Johnny Kahn taking us out with American Heart, the anthem of the Tea Party.
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00:17:57.440Changing pages just separate from redistricting, but just going off of what Boyle said quickly.
00:18:02.720You know, I think you, me, Boyle, three of the few people that would have said, hey, President Trump would outrun House Republicans.
00:18:10.700You've got 13 seats that Trump won that the Democrats hold, only three seats that Kamala Harris won that Republicans hold in Congress.
00:18:20.620That was quite honestly, there was, I think, over 20 of them in 2018 when we lost all those seats.
00:18:26.180So the fundamentals of this race are mostly played in territory that President Trump had won, right, in terms of the very tight battleground due to the redistricting.
00:18:36.300So this really is sort of a tough knife fight.
00:18:38.400And then that kind of zooms out into this redistricting.
00:18:57.840These are the numbers that are minimum.
00:18:59.640We can't accept because some of these places, people are talking about less seats, okay, the sort of the Republicans and the establishment.
00:19:46.100I mean, I would hate for that to be the case.
00:19:47.660But I think MAGA really needs to step up and work it at the grassroots, work it to your state representatives, work it to the state senate.
00:19:55.400You should be calling, educating peacefully, nicely, giving encouragement.
00:19:59.940That's where we're at on this stage right now.
00:20:01.840Then if we need to start crushing these people, we're going to have to.
00:20:05.480But really sort of put yourself out there and get other people involved, you know, sort of grow the posse, get more people, educate fellow grassroots people on why this has to happen.
00:20:51.900That was when we had the chance to do it.
00:20:53.600So the state representatives and state senate, they actually put forward a map that sort of, I think, just picked up one.
00:21:00.440So you'd have a Democrat seat and you'd have a Republican seat as opposed to having two kind of lean left kind of swing seats, you know, that currently are both held by Democrats.
00:21:09.780So they would have banked one and then kind of had a Democrat seat, would have been a net one.
00:21:15.380So I think they're going to take another pass at that.
00:35:14.800But the point is, is that the Democrat Party is 100% designed to help the illegal aliens.
00:35:23.140No, and our side of the football, the MAGA movement is all about American citizens first, America first.
00:35:29.380Obviously, you have the globalist rhino establishment, the Wall Street Journal editorial page, Paul Gijon, those guys that hate us more than they hate Democrats.
00:35:41.480But the 21 is a number, if we don't get to the gross number of 21, people have to be, we're talking about holding Antifa and the People Fund, Antifa accountable.
00:35:51.220We have to hold the rhino establishment, the globalist establishment.
00:35:55.700If we don't get all 21, because we're demanding 21.
00:36:20.420This is why the 21 degrasse is, I know the White House is fighting for this.
00:36:25.520We have to take this crusade on our shoulders and say, no, we don't want to hear any happy talk.
00:36:31.000We understand it may be a little unpleasant and a little tough, and at your country club in Indiana or in Kentucky or in New Hampshire, you know, a couple of the Democrats may say, oh, gosh, you guys are bad people.
00:38:32.700Like they've been hammering this stuff on social media together, literally showing the website in New York how you can allow illegal immigrants.
00:38:39.680That's what people are sick and tired of.
00:41:09.640And, and Russ Vogt, as good a Christian man as Russ Vogt is, they're going to destroy Russ Vogt because they have no leverage.
00:41:14.980What they're going to do is come back, anticipate winning the midterm, have Hakeem Jeffries impeach Trump in the first five days of, of their rule of terror, reign of terror in the House.
00:41:30.460Boyle, your thoughts as we go to commercial break, brother?
00:41:32.780Yeah, look, I, I think that we're in a, a, a huge moment here.
00:41:38.420And I think that if the Republicans really do continue the offensive pressure we've seen under President Trump so far this year, and again, this has to translate beyond President Trump.
00:41:51.340President Trump is always going to be awesome, and he's doing a great job at his, and across the Trump administration.
00:41:58.860But what we need to see is the fight out of the members of Congress, right?
00:42:02.300Like, so the, the, the, you know, you hear some of the good guys every now and again, right?
00:42:08.800At this point, there, there's, if you're a Republican and you're, you know, the left wants to kill you, right?
00:42:17.400Like, I mean, it's really that simple, right?
00:42:19.220Like, I mean, we saw what happened with Charlie.
00:42:21.080I mean, they would love to see that happen to everybody on the, on, on the right.
00:42:25.180And, and, and frankly, I mean, that's what they're going for.
00:42:28.600They, you know, there's a handful of reasonable human beings on the Democrat side, like a John Fetterman, right?
00:42:34.920Like, he's out there saying they need to knock it off and stop calling people fascists and, and dictators and so on and so forth.
00:42:41.060Because that's provided justification for like the people that killed Charlie Kirk.
00:42:44.820But at this point, if you're not part of that radical left, and, and, and I think the vast majority of Americans are not, you know, in support of globalizing the intifada, like what you're seeing from Mandani.
00:42:57.600Then you need to recognize that you are under attack, right?
00:43:01.360Like this is a war, you are under attack, and you need to be prepared and you need to go fight these guys.
00:43:07.400And, and by fight, what I mean is win the political wars, right?
00:43:12.220Like, so the, those 21 districts, you're right.
00:43:14.940Like they need to go out there and fight this, right?
00:43:17.380Like they need to go get these districts all taken care of.
00:43:21.040They need to go win the political battles with the, the, in Washington.
00:43:25.980Russ Vogt, they should go terminate as many people as they possibly can right now.
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00:46:36.260But I'm also, the big story I've been tracking all year is how President Trump really has woken up the entire world on, so this goes even beyond our borders, to Europe, Asia, the Middle East, Africa, South America.
00:46:54.500The whole world has been woken up by President Trump on things like immigration and trade.
00:46:59.700So yesterday, I spent about an hour with the European Union ambassador to the United States, and I'm going to butcher her name, so I'm not even going to try, but she's Lithuanian.
00:47:10.280But she's Ursula von der Leyen's ambassador from the European Union to the United States, and so we spent about an hour talking.
00:47:19.680I know she's a huge fan of yours, Steve, and also she spoke very highly about who thinks of –
00:47:30.440Ursula will fire her right away, so let's keep that to ourselves.
00:47:34.260We want to make sure she's the ambassador for a while.
00:47:36.160We talked a lot about trade and immigration.
00:47:38.160Of course, the U.S. trade deal with the European Union, which is a huge deal, that was announced in Scotland right when I was interviewing President Trump over there back in July.
00:47:47.840So we talked a lot about that and immigration.
00:47:50.500But I've also been talking to other world leaders.
00:47:52.260So last week at the U.N. General Assembly on the sidelines there, I interviewed the prime minister of Qatar and Altani.
00:47:59.380We talked a lot about President Trump's push for peace in Gaza.
00:48:02.900He said that President Trump's really the only person in the world that can pull this off.
00:48:06.420And obviously you saw the White House and President Trump roll that peace deal out earlier this week and really put pressure on Prime Minister Netanyahu to bring an end to the war in Gaza.
00:48:19.760And then also I talked to the president of the Republic of Congo last week as well.
00:48:24.040So what we're seeing is in just the last week, I've talked to people from multiple different continents, from Asia, from Europe, from Africa.
00:48:33.320We're seeing people, I've talked to people from all over the world.
00:48:36.560Trump in this America First movement is a worldwide movement.
00:48:40.880And it has a lot of friends worldwide that are rooting for us to succeed, and they want us to win.
00:48:50.840Matt Boyle, where they go, your reporting is second to none.
00:48:54.360You're the tip of the tip of the spirit.
00:48:55.920Where do people go, social media to track you down, and where they go to Breitbart to get you?