Bannon's War Room - October 13, 2025


Episode 4847： ALL Israeli Hostages Are Released; Transparency Of The Moment

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Steve Bannon
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Donald Trump Jack Posobiec Dave Bratt Charlie Kirk Benjamin Netanyahu Bush Getter Erdogan Obama Keir Starmer Posso Eric Prince Kurt Mills Kierkegaard Clausewitz Allenby Miriam Hegel Biden Brad and 29 more
Episode 4845： Hegseth Deal With Qatar Episode 4848： Rebuilding Begins In Gaza And What Will We Uncover; US Navy Began With A Fishing Boat

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Jack Posobiec joins us to talk about the President's speech to the Israel's Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, and why he should have been the one to make the choice between peace and war with the Palestinians.

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00:00:30.780 But I actually asked her.
00:00:31.680 I'm going to get her in trouble with this.
00:00:32.880 But I actually asked her once.
00:00:34.000 I said, so, Miriam, I know you love Israel.
00:00:36.840 What do you love more, the United States or Israel?
00:00:40.400 She refused to answer.
00:00:41.980 That means that might mean Israel.
00:00:45.120 I must tell you.
00:00:51.100 Wow.
00:00:51.980 The largest donor to the Republican Party, Sheldon Adelson's widow.
00:00:57.460 And it's not just she's a woman of amazing accomplishments in her own right.
00:01:01.740 I think she's a Ph.D. in physics or she's absolutely quite brilliant.
00:01:07.500 Pretty tough.
00:01:08.320 Pretty tough hombre and kind of runs that deal with an iron fist.
00:01:12.080 You either got to be with Israel all the way in or you don't get any money.
00:01:16.180 But right there is Jack Posobiec with us.
00:01:19.140 We're getting Posobiec up.
00:01:20.320 I want to make sure that we get him.
00:01:21.880 I want to get his thoughts on this.
00:01:23.120 But Dave Bratt, you had to see this happen inside of Congress, how tough it is.
00:01:27.800 But the president, this was going off script today ad-libbing.
00:01:32.520 But that was a shot across the bow, was it not?
00:01:35.880 Yeah, well, it was very clear.
00:01:41.060 And you can just tell when he's in the room in the Knesset, when he's in the room in Egypt,
00:01:46.520 he is the commander.
00:01:48.260 He is the leader.
00:01:49.600 Harnwell was bringing it up before with a world historical leader.
00:01:54.200 And so that is the key.
00:01:56.700 And we don't have peace because of the Middle East or because of Israel. 0.65
00:02:01.060 We have peace because of one man and it's President Trump.
00:02:04.660 That's what it means to be that world historical leader.
00:02:07.960 And today, you know, in the speech today, I mean, he had some, he proclaims peace at the
00:02:14.040 Knesset.
00:02:14.600 He says it's the beginning of the age of faith and hope.
00:02:18.840 And then I give my deepest thanks to Almighty God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
00:02:24.440 That's what made the choice.
00:02:26.480 It's funny because Trump, he doesn't come across as religious.
00:02:30.940 He doesn't come across as wanting to be an intellect.
00:02:33.340 You can be the smartest person in human history, and it doesn't matter unless you make the
00:02:38.100 choice.
00:02:39.400 And that's why Harnwell brought up Hegel before.
00:02:41.480 But Kierkegaard came in and critiqued Hegel, the smartest guy.
00:02:44.920 He said he would have been the best philosopher the world has ever known.
00:02:48.940 The intellect, the brains, but he didn't make the choice in the Christian tradition for Jesus.
00:02:55.080 And so Kierkegaard wrote his books called Either Or, Fear and Trembling About Making the Choice.
00:03:00.720 So Trump makes the right choices.
00:03:03.780 He doesn't brag about being the smartest guy in the room, but he's making the world historical
00:03:08.660 choices for us.
00:03:10.460 Thank God.
00:03:11.640 And we're going to have peace because he's going to, we got to keep him safe because he's
00:03:16.680 the man.
00:03:17.360 And so he's laid down the law.
00:03:19.800 He's the leader in every room he enters.
00:03:22.200 The donors, sorry.
00:03:24.280 You don't get your way.
00:03:25.900 You're not looking out for, in economics, what you call the general equilibrium, the
00:03:30.800 welfare of everyone simultaneously.
00:03:34.220 And that is uniquely Trump's job right now.
00:03:36.320 And boy, I give him an A plus today.
00:03:37.800 He's hitting it out of the park.
00:03:40.620 No, no.
00:03:41.300 This is a day that will live in history, what he's done in the Middle East. 1.00
00:03:46.040 We see the sign right there at the conference center where President Trump, in about 45 minutes,
00:03:51.540 I think, will actually address or will start to begin the ceremony itself.
00:03:56.680 He's spending, I think, some one-on-one time with General Ceci, and I'm sure there's going
00:04:00.140 to be a couple of three others that come and meet with him.
00:04:03.060 But right now, it's on the schedule for about 45 minutes.
00:04:05.900 So that means the speeches and the more formal part of it will probably start during the Charlie
00:04:10.860 Kirk show right afterwards.
00:04:13.100 Posa, I'm going to play again the Miriam Adelson clip because it's so stunning.
00:04:17.220 But I got to ask you, you were with us on the morning coverage.
00:04:21.540 But what is most stunning to me of everything President Trump is doing here is the humility
00:04:26.960 and the gravitas that he has to take an hour, as tired as you have to be, coming off a flight
00:04:34.240 with all these big events today and the whole world focused on you about what you say.
00:04:39.080 You know, they're going to parse every word.
00:04:41.240 To take over an hour with the families and not make it a media event.
00:04:47.080 I mean, we've got some black and white photographs.
00:04:48.780 I think there's some footage coming out now, but not having it live on TV as the families
00:04:53.420 pass the microphone and their thanking of Trump was heart rendering.
00:04:58.860 Talk to me about the humility of President Trump on this day of days.
00:05:05.620 Well, thanks so much again for having me on, Steve.
00:05:07.920 And look, we saw President Trump there taking the time with the hostages.
00:05:11.820 And once again, you're seeing that empathetic side of President Trump really come to the
00:05:17.020 forefront. You're seeing the fact that this is a man who and Steve, you and I were down
00:05:21.340 at Mar-a-Lago and we were at that event where President Trump came out and talked about the
00:05:25.680 casualties in the Ukraine war he was talking about at the time.
00:05:29.800 But you could you could see it in his face and you could read it in his eyes that this
00:05:35.380 is a man who deeply, deeply cares about the wounds of war, who cares about the blood that's
00:05:41.140 being spilled. And this is exactly the same man who would speak out against the global
00:05:46.580 war on terror during the height of the Bush administration, one of the few people as a
00:05:51.880 Republican to do so. And then, of course, became the first Republican to speak about
00:05:55.860 this on the Republican stage back in 2015, 10 years ago now, 10 plus years.
00:06:00.880 And so he's been the person to say, look, it's time to actually put down the swords to bring
00:06:08.740 people home, to bring sons back to their fathers, to bring daughters back to their mothers.
00:06:15.120 And it's it's so rare. It's it's so rare in politics where you actually get to do something
00:06:20.840 that is just objectively good and an absolute good. And that's what he's done today.
00:06:25.840 Jack, Dave Bratt said something, I think it was after you bounced this morning on the coverage
00:06:34.040 that I thought was stunningly on point in a very significant point when we talk about
00:06:40.580 narrative warfare in a modern 21st century, the kind of Clausewitz is that kinetic war is
00:06:48.080 narrative war by other means. Right. That do a play on Clausewitz. He said today is going
00:06:54.260 to be a day of clarity. Today's going to be a day of a beginning of accountability because two
00:06:58.300 things. Number one, you're going to hear starting a day of the brutal conditions that
00:07:05.280 the Hamas terrorists had for the for the for the the hostages. And you're going to hear that in 0.87
00:07:10.560 spades. But in addition, Gaza is starting to open up and the Western media has been kind of
00:07:16.420 blocked from the most significant parts of the war itself. We're going to get down there.
00:07:20.000 Kurt Mills called it. He thinks it's going to be one of the biggest crime scenes in world history.
00:07:26.160 But you're already hearing reports out of it. And Kurt Mills said what's going to happen on both
00:07:31.960 on both the hostages and how they were treated and how the war in Gaza was actually executed,
00:07:38.960 that you're going to have a media cyclone effect that this is going to really spin or they're going
00:07:43.960 to have to see which way it spins out of control and whose side it spins out of control. Your thoughts
00:07:49.600 on that, what what Dave Brack called the transparency of the moment.
00:07:57.480 Well, Steve, you're absolutely right. And it's possible that we do get more of this. And certainly
00:08:02.380 we've seen social media really play a strong role in the forefront of the prosecution of this war in
00:08:10.380 Gaza from the citizenry there, from citizen journalists, independent journalists going
00:08:15.080 into Gaza. But we haven't seen that same coverage from the mainstream as well. And so show it all,
00:08:22.020 absolutely show it all, get it all out there. And of course, this will be on the former leadership
00:08:27.260 of Hamas. It'll be on the political leadership of Israel. It'll be on Bibi Netanyahu's coalition,
00:08:32.900 which I know we've spoken about today is fragile and he is facing elections next year. So of course,
00:08:38.780 that will be his remit to determine whether or not he is able to run again or stand again for the
00:08:45.580 coalition. But Steve, you take it a step further too. And I'm just going to have to say the same
00:08:50.960 thing I said here last week, that the one thing that just for me personally, that I'm looking for,
00:08:56.420 that I haven't heard a lot given to yet, and I know there'll be time for it, but in this peace deal,
00:09:01.880 whether we get the transitional technocratic government, whatever we see coming forward,
00:09:07.780 I want to make sure that there are protections for the Christians who are on the ground here,
00:09:12.740 that there are protections for the holy site, rebuilding of the holy sites, rebuilding of the
00:09:18.140 churches, full funding for this absolutely has to be at the forefront here because we've seen too many
00:09:24.960 churches destroyed during the prosecution of this war and too many situations where Christians have 0.94
00:09:30.920 been killed. Let me be blunt. This is the beginning of a, first of all, it's a massive defeat from
00:09:39.540 Netanyahu and his side. You're having a two state solution. And this is what the afternoon is about
00:09:44.980 peace in the Middle East. You're going to have the Gulf Emirates finance it with their cash, 0.85
00:09:50.200 Qatar and UAE, but also the Saudis. You're going to have the Turks, which have the most advanced army in
00:09:57.180 the Muslim world. They're going to provide the security guarantee. They're going to coordinate
00:10:00.460 the UAE and others. And America may have some sort of coordinating thing from Doha at the beginning,
00:10:06.460 but supposed to transfer it all. So you're going to have Muslim and Arab troops with a foothold in
00:10:12.240 Israel, in Gaza. Most importantly, the 2 million are not this plan that was in, in, you talked about 0.89
00:10:17.840 earlier about the, in Ben did about how this thing shifted so quickly. In the middle of July,
00:10:25.440 there was open discussion about the removal of all 2 million Palestinians and they go live in the 1.00
00:10:32.260 Sinai, right? Or, or somehow they're going to go to Ethiopia. That's all off the table. So you're going
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00:10:45.580 further development from Israel's side in Judea Samaria, which you could argue is one of the biggest 0.82
00:10:52.600 historical roots of Israel. The only solution here, if you're going to have a two state solution, 0.86
00:10:58.140 you have to have a three state solution. You have to have a Christian state. We can't, we can no longer 1.00
00:11:03.080 just say, take it through the Muslims and the Jews. It just can't, it can't work. If you want to really 1.00
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00:16:34.780 nationalism, brought it up. Ben, I'm going to toss it to you first in Rome, and then Dave Bratt.
00:16:42.500 Do we need a—since we're going to have a two-state solution, and people just have to accept that this is
00:16:48.740 happening. This is happening. You're going to have golf-eminent money, unlimited. You're going
00:16:54.580 to have two million Palestinians, and they ain't going anywhere. President Trump already said there's
00:16:59.040 going to be a massive redevelopment. Wyckoff confirmed that. He and Jared are going to work
00:17:02.680 on the implementation, which they're already working on. It's the reason so many countries
00:17:06.600 of the world, 25 nations, are at the resort today, not just to hear the president, but start to go to
00:17:13.760 work on how they're going to get their piece of it, right? And with a two-state solution—and
00:17:18.640 you're going to have Turkish military. I want people to understand. The Turks are going to have
00:17:22.920 a military presence with the UAE and the Saudis on the territory of Israel. And this is why I say
00:17:30.500 the Israel first crowd back in Netanyahu, you guys bought it. You can spin this deal any way you want,
00:17:36.500 but that's the deal. And that's happening right now in Egypt. So if we got two-state solution,
00:17:43.740 the only way to guarantee and to secure the fact that we secure the holy land of where our Lord and
00:17:49.380 Savior Jesus Christ had his ministry for three years is to have a Christian state. Now, Ben,
00:17:55.660 I realize you've become so cynical. You were such a great guy when I met you, and you were in London,
00:17:59.500 and I guess you've just gone to Rome. You're now beady-eyed cynic, having seen Catholicism in 0.96
00:18:06.980 the Vatican up close for 15 years. No, no, no. Your thoughts? No, no, no. The beady-eyed cynicism is
00:18:13.720 what you get after you've been working on the war room for four years. Look, we're just at the moment
00:18:18.860 getting used to the two-state solution, and you're trying to come up with this three-state solution.
00:18:23.840 Oh, my word. Listen, I've said this on the war room before, OK? Folks, if you want to be decoupled
00:18:31.480 from the Middle East, right, if you want to definitely put that stake through the heart 0.97
00:18:36.720 of the military-industrial complex, don't resurrect it. Don't resurrect the nation,
00:18:44.320 the neocon nation-building ideal in Christian terms, because you will never, ever, ever get
00:18:54.460 out of the Middle East if you do that. But hang on. We're not going to—we're not—but hang on. 0.94
00:18:58.580 But hang on. I'm not saying the United States government—in fact, I do not want the United
00:19:02.180 States government to have any involvement here any more than they're going to have in the two-state
00:19:05.960 solution. But how do you guarantee—how do you guarantee—how do you guarantee the basic
00:19:12.520 root of our religion, where our Lord and Savior—as you remember, Thomas More, in that great speech
00:19:20.180 he gave to Parliament before they beheaded him, talked specifically about this. He had never given
00:19:24.740 his thoughts on this, but he said about our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, when he walked the earth,
00:19:30.020 particularly the three years of his teaching, right, when he was a teacher and formed really
00:19:37.840 the church. How do you walk away and just leave it with—because not in the room, not in the deal.
00:19:45.000 I'm not saying the United States should be involved at all, but you have to have a Christian—if you're 1.00
00:19:48.780 going to have a Muslim state in Israel, and you're going to have a Muslim state, this is a two-state 0.98
00:19:54.280 solution. Don't let America First crowd spin this any other way. They brought this on, which people had
00:20:01.100 fought having a two-state solution for decades and decades and decades. They brought this on because they
00:20:06.000 backed Netanyahu in his overplay of this greater Israel project, which was doomed to failure if the
00:20:13.440 United States ever woke up and said, hey, hang over a second. What's in America's interest,
00:20:17.900 not in Israel's interest? What's in America's interest, sir? 0.63
00:20:21.820 Okay, Steve, listen. As sure as the turning of the earth—to use a very Bananite expression—as sure as the
00:20:30.220 turning of the earth. If you establish—if it is established—let's use the passive tense—if it is
00:20:36.920 established in the Middle East, a Christian state, like above and beyond Armenia, right, you, America,
00:20:42.660 will be at a future point dragged in to underwrite its security and its defence. That is a thousand
00:20:49.220 percent. Your military-industrial complex is too powerful and too omnipresent for that not to happen,
00:20:55.280 okay? I want to respond, and I'll hand over now because I think Posso's got something to say,
00:20:59.160 but before I do, right, I want to respond to something that you said in the break. You said,
00:21:04.160 if we do this, folks, call it whatever you want, but don't call it the Kingdom of Israel. Steve,
00:21:10.200 I couldn't disagree with you more. If you want the hard— No, the King—hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:21:14.100 The Kingdom of Jerusalem. The Kingdom of Jerusalem. I said— The Kingdom of Jerusalem.
00:21:17.260 We won't refer to it as the Kingdom of Jerusalem. I know Posso—I know Posso's already got his
00:21:22.380 Knights, his Knights Templar. He's got his Knights Templar outfit ready to go, and it's not for
00:21:26.800 Halloween. First Knight Templar, first Templar Knight, Eric Prince. Maybe, maybe.
00:21:33.380 Eric Prince. Look, look, look. He's the vice versa. This is my point, okay? This is my point. If you
00:21:38.400 want— He has experience. If you want the Hornwell buy-in, if you want the Hornwell buy-in on this
00:21:43.300 project, which you're never going to get anyway, but if you want the Hornwell buy-in on the Christian
00:21:48.220 state, you must call it the Kingdom of Jerusalem, and you've got to issue passports which say
00:21:54.000 Deus Vult in gold-embossed capitals on the front so that everybody knows what this is about.
00:22:01.140 But you're still not going to get me to buy into this because I tell you this, America.
00:22:04.900 If you go down this road and have a Christian state there, you are never, ever getting out 1.00
00:22:10.080 of the Middle East, ever.
00:22:11.040 But how do you get out—you can't get—you can't get out of—look, I want out of the
00:22:17.320 Middle East, but you can't get out of certain areas of Judea, Samaria, and Israel because
00:22:24.780 it's the birthplace of Christ. It's the birthplace of a religion, and you can't allow those historical 1.00
00:22:30.700 endeavors to be turned over to the Muslims, which is, listen, in this two-state solution,
00:22:35.860 I'm saying it now. Israel as it exists will not be around in 20 years. That's how serious 1.00
00:22:41.620 this is. These Arab nations are hitting it with cash flow. They're now getting into new
00:22:46.980 technology. They're trying to be at the vanguard of artificial intelligence. They're trying
00:22:50.840 to be at the vanguard of chip design. They're trying to be at the vanguard of crypto. I'm not
00:22:56.240 saying it's all going to work out. And of course, they have a history and a reputation of snatching
00:23:01.200 defeat from the jaws of victory. But what's happening today is quite different than anything
00:23:06.920 else that's happened. Witkoff's a businessman. Jared's a businessman. President Trump's a
00:23:11.920 businessman. When you talk to the Qataris and to UAE, they're not politicians because those
00:23:17.860 are not political entities. They are business people. They're finance people. And that's
00:23:22.320 why I think it's different. Dave Brett, help me out here, brother. I suppose so. We're two
00:23:26.480 against one now. You're the deciding vote. What say you?
00:23:32.260 No, it's one versus three. I'm the frozen chosen Protestant with three Catholics around 0.99
00:23:37.440 me. But I'm going to cede ground to all you Catholics. And I said this earlier in the show, 1.00
00:23:44.280 and everybody thinks I'm always pie in the sky. In the 13th century, we had a nice rational
00:23:50.200 conversation with Islam and Judaism and Christianity centered around Aristotle. You can use your man
00:23:58.440 Aquinas. That would be fine for the Board of Peace. I haven't thought through the architecture of
00:24:04.360 nation states in the last five minutes, so I'm not going to articulate that.
00:24:08.660 Let me just hang on. Just what you're seeing as Dave talks is the president, everybody wants a
00:24:15.000 photo with him. So these are all the people coming from the 25 nations are having a minute to talk to
00:24:19.840 him, et cetera. Go ahead and finish her. So you're going to see all the, look at that,
00:24:23.620 around Peace 2025. They're all going to come and have a photo op with President Trump because they
00:24:29.620 want to show that off back home. Continue on with Aristotle.
00:24:34.180 Yeah, well, that's the backbone of the Catholic tradition and the teachings. And the safest way to
00:24:39.780 avert or avoid these globalist Marxist leftist thugs is to go back to any book that was written at
00:24:46.620 least 100 years ago. This would be 700 years ago. So we need to follow human reason. The papacy,
00:24:54.640 the Catholic tradition, the just war theory has it all documented on paper. The current Pope doesn't
00:25:00.260 seem to want to go that route, but you guys know better. The Protestants would be in full agreement 1.00
00:25:04.860 on this kind of thing. And same with Judaism. Judaism had some of the greatest philosophers back in
00:25:10.360 the 1300s as well. Maimonides is the person who comes to mind. And so we get the, all it takes is
00:25:19.140 reverting to what's called human reason. You don't have to do religion, right? The Republic,
00:25:26.240 this is why you need politicians like Trump that are older than, you know, 30 years old these days,
00:25:31.860 but he's around doing architecture for these things.
00:25:34.380 He's, he's, yeah, look, look at that right there. Everybody wants to get a photo with him. It's
00:25:38.620 just incredible. As President Trump says, we're hot again, we're hot. Uh, so, uh, you're, you're,
00:25:44.920 you're, you're, by the way, I don't want to say this, but I think we got a possibility, Ben and Jack
00:25:50.100 of a convert here. Uh, you know, uh, Brad keeps referring back to ancient, ancient, ancient theology,
00:25:59.100 right? I think we got a possibility. So we just got to work on him. Um, Jack Posobiec,
00:26:04.160 your thoughts on this? No, no, I'm, I'm working on it, but you know, I, I hear, I hear the three
00:26:08.880 in one and, and, and, and, you know, I, first of all, the war room, you know, is not a democracy.
00:26:13.940 Um, I don't, I don't think that's ever, uh, that's ever come up before, but you know, yeah. And
00:26:18.920 then Catholics, yeah, Catholics, that's, uh, you know, democracy, that's a Protestant thing.
00:26:22.860 Like, well, you know, Catholics are, we're the, we're the altar and throne, uh, types. And,
00:26:27.940 and so, you know, a lot of, you go to this part of the world and, uh, you know, you see a lot of
00:26:32.000 lineup as president Trump is there meeting with, with sheikhs and Demir's and Kings and there's,
00:26:37.340 there's Erdogan. There's Erdogan. And there, there's, and there is meeting with, uh, with the
00:26:41.900 caliph right there, the Turks. And now he's, now he's meeting with the caliphate. That's the Ottoman, 0.93
00:26:46.960 the Ottoman empire. So Lawrence of Arabia, uh, got the Arabs together,
00:26:52.380 to unite the Arabs so that the British general Allenby. Yeah, no, I'm saying they can actually 1.00
00:26:58.940 take down the Ottoman empire and break the Ottoman empires. I think the Ottoman empire 0.98
00:27:03.500 ruled Jerusalem for a thousand years. This is why Allenby, who was going to Damascus, 0.94
00:27:08.800 but he stopped it. He stopped and freed Jerusalem en route. Uh, you're going to have Turkish troops. 0.80
00:27:15.260 I want every, so when the Israel first crowd is today trying to spin this, just tell them,
00:27:21.780 Hey, what about Erdogan? And, uh, he's going to be the head security force. Let me play if we can
00:27:26.420 play it. And by the way, we're skipping the last break because I want to stick there with president
00:27:30.180 Trump, seeing all the leaders of the middle East and throughout some of the leaders in Europe,
00:27:34.860 also Macron's there, Sir Kerr. Can we go ahead and play? I want to play for Jack Posobiec,
00:27:39.220 the, uh, shot across the bow. Now I will say as the head of the Trump 2028 movement, uh, this
00:27:46.260 didn't make me feel great when he went after one of his biggest donors. Let's go ahead and play it.
00:27:51.300 But I actually asked, I'm going to get her in trouble with this, but I actually asked her once,
00:27:54.580 I said, so Miriam, I know you love Israel. What do you love more? The United States or Israel?
00:28:01.140 She refused to answer. That means that might mean Israel. I must say. 0.77
00:28:06.280 Yes. Some nervous laughter there. Jack Posobiec, your takeaway on that one.
00:28:14.840 Look, president Trump is his own man. There's, there's no question here. And he obviously talks
00:28:19.480 to everyone. He talks to everyone on all sides. He's close with many people who, uh, who are very
00:28:26.040 concerned about the safety and wellbeing of Israel. Obviously he himself has made it a key aspect of
00:28:31.880 his presidency, both the first term and the second term. But at the end of the day,
00:28:35.800 president Trump is and remains America first. He will always put America first and he will act
00:28:42.520 in what he believes is America's interests right up until the line where he said, this is it. This
00:28:48.440 is the line with which America is willing to support these operations and support the situation. And he
00:28:55.160 said it himself. He said it himself, didn't he? When he was there in the well of the Knesset and said,
00:29:00.280 you have won all that you can by force. Now is the time for peace and prosperity.
00:29:07.000 So he is the one who draws the line that American interests have ended at this point. Now is the time
00:29:12.440 to cut the deal, bring the hostages back and go with it. Uh, and, and via condios go with God from
00:29:19.720 there. And so, uh, as we were saying on the earlier show, Steve, if, uh, if there were a situation where it
00:29:25.720 looked as though, uh, further offensive operations were taking place and I, I don't necessarily see
00:29:31.400 that happening, but, uh, speaking hypothetically, uh, that, uh, out of the IDF that it seems the
00:29:37.000 United States would not be there to support them. This, there's two things I want to point out here,
00:29:42.040 Jack, uh, and, and Ben and Dave, the guy's been rolling on this thing since yesterday afternoon.
00:29:48.440 And look at just even doing these meet and greets is an energy suck. Look at, look out. I mean,
00:29:54.040 he's, this guy's like, he looks like a guy, 30 years old. He's clearly jacked up for the moment,
00:29:59.560 but just the ability to do everything he did today from meeting with the hostage parents,
00:30:05.000 you know, the families and listening to their, to their horrible stories they had for the two years
00:30:10.840 that, and some of them obviously didn't make it back, uh, to the speech and, and sitting through,
00:30:15.960 quite frankly, the opposition leader, BB, the speaker of the house. I think they had an hour's
00:30:20.280 worth of speeches. He just sat there and listened to the whole thing, the energy he's now there.
00:30:25.400 Look at the president still. And, and Hey, do you think when Bush was president or Obama was president
00:30:31.000 that the, uh, their Ben Harnwell is your favorite, uh, Georgia Maloney of, uh, Italy. Um,
00:30:39.640 they want some of that redevelopment business in Gaza. I don't even want to go there. I can't even go
00:30:43.400 there, but everybody, she wants a photograph with him because everybody wants a photograph of one's
00:30:48.920 the last time he had a president of the United States that everybody you think they wanted with
00:30:53.800 Biden. You would be incorrect. You think they wanted with Obama. You would be incorrect. You
00:30:57.560 think they want with Bush. No. In fact, they're saying they don't even want Tony Blair as the
00:31:02.040 executive director because of his role in the Iraq war. We got to, so the speech is going to come
00:31:07.960 after us during the Charlie Kirk show. Let's go around the horn. Ben, give me a couple of minutes
00:31:12.280 on your closing thoughts here as the president of the United States takes photographs with all the
00:31:16.520 participants that are coming to the peace conference today. Okay. My closing thought is this
00:31:23.000 looking at the scenes, right as president Trump meeting the various world leaders, how far back you
00:31:30.040 need to go in America's history to, to find an American president who wasn't a person who was
00:31:37.560 magnified by his office. President Trump isn't magnified by the office of the presidency. He
00:31:44.760 magnifies the office of the presidency. It is all looking at these scenes here. It is almost as if
00:31:50.360 president Trump as a, as a personality, as a figure, as what we said earlier in the Hegelian term,
00:31:55.960 the world historical figure. It's almost as if he is too large for himself because of his
00:32:01.720 personality for the, for the office of the presidency. And this is, this is, this is the,
00:32:06.360 this is the epitome for me of the idea of public service. You go in and you make changes that you want
00:32:13.080 to do with elected office. You don't go in to be magnified by the office. And I think that is,
00:32:18.360 that is a tribute to Donald Trump and he deserves it. Ben Hornwell, social media,
00:32:25.080 so people can follow you throughout the day. Getter, my social media platform of choice,
00:32:31.320 at Hornwell, my surname. Thanks, Steve. God bless. And Ben has already committed to,
00:32:38.280 although it's going to be late, he's putting a full day. He's going to join us on the six
00:32:41.800 o'clock show. Dave Bratt, thank you for joining us in the morning. Ben, thank you for joining us.
00:32:47.400 Dave, you've had some amazing observation as Ben has and all of our, all of our crew here.
00:32:53.320 Give me your closing thoughts on this. Well, the, the closer is just, uh, we owe this to a
00:33:00.600 one man, President Trump, uh, and it's, it's, we need to build the architecture like we've been
00:33:05.640 talking around, uh, his ideas. So we, we've got the, give the next generations, uh, the same type
00:33:11.960 of leadership, uh, and ability, uh, for peace. And, uh, you know, I don't want to be a downer,
00:33:17.880 but you know, it'd be nice if Christian Europe, uh, would retain or regain their Christian lingo
00:33:23.960 again, the United Kingdom, Germany, France, it's too much to ask for, right? These guys are on a
00:33:30.760 Keynesian economic war footing still, uh, because their economies and their culture is so destructive
00:33:37.640 right now. And so, you know, Trump gave us all hope today. Maybe we can, uh, maybe we can make it
00:33:42.920 happen. There's the United Kingdom, by the way, they're being overrun with their own war
00:33:47.660 with Islam. There's Sir Kerr, Sir Kerr Starmer right there. Dave, Brad, uh, what's your social
00:33:54.400 media? You've been amazing. Thank you, brother. Yeah. Yeah. Just Brad economic son. Get her in on
00:33:59.520 X. Yep. Thanks, Steve. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. Thank you. So Jack Posobiec, I want you to touch
00:34:07.820 on this of what you've seen. You've been with us for the entire time. However, folks, as I said,
00:34:13.800 in my national conservative speech, the Middle East is a sideshow to the main event in Israel,
00:34:19.680 the situation in Israel and Gaza is a sideshow to the sideshow. I hate to break it to you.
00:34:24.940 The central issue we have is with the Chinese Communist Party. And if you don't think so,
00:34:29.040 your life may dramatically change in the next three or four weeks, because she thinking they
00:34:33.280 have leverage, not like, not liking the way president Trump is rolling, uh, put on a, went
00:34:38.840 to economic war with us. I mean, up in our grill, they've been at economic war with us, at least
00:34:44.060 from may of 2019. I actually argue decades beforehand, but they're putting restrictions
00:34:49.960 on what we call the heavy rare earths that run the production lines in the United States of America.
00:34:55.200 And this is a serious, as again, this is something, this is the reason folks that gold blew through
00:35:00.680 4,100 bucks. Okay. Uh, and you got to go to Birch Gold to understand what she is doing,
00:35:06.740 trying to destroy D dollars, D dollarization and destroy the dollar as the prime reserve
00:35:11.960 currency. Birchgold.com, promo code Bannon, end of the dollar empire. Do that today. Jack Posobiec,
00:35:17.020 I want you to balance your understanding of the Middle East with your brilliant and deep
00:35:22.480 understanding of the Chinese Communist Party and where the real fight for the United States and for
00:35:28.240 President Trump is going to come. Well, Steve, that's exactly as I was, um, explaining this
00:35:34.740 earlier on the program. And by the way, you mentioned Xi Jinping and the People's Liberation
00:35:40.440 Army Navy is actually holding an amphibious assault rehearsal right off of Taiwan as we speak right
00:35:47.420 now. So you've got the command personnel coordinating these coastal assaults, the amphibious brigade crews,
00:35:52.980 they're, they're moving forward with their operations. And Steve, when I talk about Syria,
00:35:58.340 when I talked about the backstop of these Turkish troops, Erdogan and the rest, they're all cutting 1.00
00:36:03.200 deals with the Chinese Communist Party because they're looking to constitute what did, what did Syria do in
00:36:09.160 the last couple of years? They've now signed in completely with the Belt and Road Initiative. They are
00:36:15.320 reconstituting the Silk Road. Aleppo, Palmyra, what put those cities on the map? Their role in the trade.
00:36:22.980 Between Rome and China in the first place. That's why those areas of Syria matter so much.
00:36:29.220 What is China doing now? They want the raw minerals. They want the oil. They want the trade going all
00:36:34.740 the way through the new Silk Road. And they're investing heavily, heavily in those deep water
00:36:40.220 ports in the Eastern Med. They're investing heavily in, uh, in Tardis and Latakia, uh, running right
00:36:46.760 upside the Russians there. So don't think for a second that China isn't all over what's happening 0.93
00:36:53.000 in the East Med, not only not to mention all over the Caribbean, Latin America, South America,
00:36:58.340 as well up to, and including the Gulf of America. So President Trump obviously understands this as
00:37:04.700 well. And he is reasserting the United States diplomatically and economically on the world stage.
00:37:10.220 Steve, we need it to happen. And it's, and thank God that President Trump has done this. Now,
00:37:16.160 the United States of America is back and Beijing is watching.
00:37:21.840 Jack, give me a minute or two. What you're seeing right here is extraordinary.
00:37:25.340 Every country that's there, all the 25 countries, each one's coming up almost as a supplicant 0.98
00:37:30.420 just to get a picture with him. But the warmth, the handshake, they're giving him little tidbits,
00:37:35.960 which I'm sure he's talked to them over the phone. He's been in communication with each of
00:37:39.600 these leaders. It's extraordinary. You haven't had, you think they would do that with Obama
00:37:43.760 or Biden or Bush? It's not about political party. They want to be in the, they want to
00:37:49.560 be around Trump. They want to be in the aura of Trump. As Trump says, President Trump says
00:37:53.900 the country's hot, that the Arab, the King of Saudi Arabia told him, Hey, you're hot right
00:37:58.760 there. You're seeing it. You can't, you can't, uh, you can't fake this, right? You've seen
00:38:03.660 these, uh, these, uh, bilats before he saw some of the ways president Trump was treated
00:38:07.520 in his first term. Look at this. He has reestablished. He has reestablished his role as the leader of
00:38:14.440 the free world. You are now looking at the leader of the free world as he exercises that
00:38:22.760 freedom and that sovereignty across, uh, not just past the United States, its borders, but
00:38:29.520 also the strength of that U S economy, the strength of the U S at large. Now that being
00:38:35.780 said, uh, we do, we do need to focus on the United States, but you look at this and it, it,
00:38:41.380 it has the ability of having a spillover effects of bringing that economic prosperity back to
00:38:46.380 the U S. But ever, ever, ever, ever since, ever since, uh, Reagan left Bush, old man, Bush, Bill
00:38:55.000 Clinton, uh, little Bush, uh, Obama, Biden. Are you kidding me? That was just a phrase used by
00:39:02.020 these crackpots on MSNBC, the Atlanta council for a leader of the free world. They weren't leaders.
00:39:07.640 Nobody wanted to be around them. They all want to be around this guy. You know why they understand
00:39:12.820 he makes things happen and he makes tough things happen, hard things. This was inconceivable.
00:39:18.500 This was inconceivable at the UN when Netanyahu gave that speech, Jack Posobiec. We're going to 0.64
00:39:24.660 toss it as we've done for the last four years. So the Charlie Kirk show, you're back up at two,
00:39:29.140 uh, where do we go for your social media? All right. We'll be back up at two and, and just have
00:39:34.600 to say how remarkable this is. The president Trump is going to be turning around and coming right back
00:39:39.000 for Charlie's medal of freedom ceremony tomorrow on what would have been Charlie's 32nd birthday.
00:39:45.020 And we'll, we'll be doing the shows from the white house tomorrow in, uh, in commemoration of this.
00:39:49.620 Wow. Wow. The Charlie Kirk show in human events, it's human events back to back from the white house.
00:39:57.680 Yes. I might add, as we get ready, we'll be back at five o'clock today. Uh, president Trump is doing
00:40:03.560 this as a day trip. Embrace that. Okay. When you feel tired or, Hey, I can't do it anymore. This is
00:40:11.640 too much for me. This is a day trip, a world historical figure. You had general Washington,
00:40:18.500 you had Lincoln and you got Trump for all his imperfections. Okay. And all the things that a
00:40:24.680 lot of us don't like about what's going on. This is one of the greatest leaders this country's ever
00:40:31.040 produced. And the living example is right there with these other leaders. Well, Charlie Kirk is
00:40:36.140 next. I want to thank real America's voice. Amazing coverage, the most sophisticated coverage
00:40:41.060 out there of this day. We're going to be back at five to wrap it all up in the war room.
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