Bannon's War Room - October 20, 2025


Episode 4863： Failure Of The Intelligence Community; Selling Out America To The CCP


Episode Stats

Length

53 minutes

Words per Minute

169.5525

Word Count

9,110

Sentence Count

763

Misogynist Sentences

13

Hate Speech Sentences

41


Summary

This episode is a mashup of my thoughts on the anti-Trump protests in New York City and my own experience in the streets with my kids. I talk about the lack of leadership from the left, the NYPD response to the protests, and what I saw in the crowd.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Government conservatives like me, it's frightening to libertarians, it's frightening to independents
00:00:08.200 to actually have people in no uniforms and unmarked cars grab people off the street
00:00:20.380 and throw them into unmarked cars or vans.
00:00:24.540 And you're sitting there as a parent going, OK, so what happens if people start imitating this
00:00:32.120 and thinking they can get away with this in public where they can just kidnap somebody?
00:00:39.140 And I can't tell you how many times I've heard people say, well, what what happens to my son?
00:00:43.960 What happens? I do that to my daughter.
00:00:45.180 What happens? It is it is really insane at this point in 2025 that we are at a point where.
00:00:55.820 And by the way, I'm not I'm not saying this for, you know, this isn't I mean, progressives are going to agree with me on this.
00:01:02.920 This is small government conservatives that are saying, wait, you've got people that have like are wearing plain clothes.
00:01:11.140 They're masked. They they just grab women off the street and throw them into unmarked vans.
00:01:19.120 They refuse to identify themselves.
00:01:22.680 We must understand this is not an 80 20 issue like this scares the hell out of people in all political parties,
00:01:33.380 maybe not in the most intense like MAGA base, but it should.
00:01:38.760 And so, yeah, this is not good.
00:01:42.720 What is your response to the protests?
00:01:44.480 Who are you with?
00:01:45.140 With AP?
00:01:46.180 With AP?
00:01:47.360 What's your response to the protests over the weekend?
00:01:49.420 I think it's a joke.
00:01:52.220 I looked at the people.
00:01:53.240 They're not representative of this country.
00:01:55.680 And I looked at all the brand new signs paid for.
00:01:58.160 I guess it was paid for by Soros and other radical left lunatics.
00:02:02.580 It looks like it was checking it out.
00:02:05.640 The demonstrations were very small, very ineffective.
00:02:08.400 And the people who are whacked out, when you look at those people, those are not representative of the people of our country.
00:02:14.620 Mr. Kahneman, I'm beside you.
00:02:16.280 And by the way, I'm not a king.
00:02:18.160 I'm not a king.
00:02:19.260 I work my ass off to make our country great.
00:02:21.520 That's all of this.
00:02:22.560 I'm not a king at all.
00:02:23.740 This issue of how the right is very good at making people have their conversation.
00:02:28.380 So even the conversation we're having now is a conversation about denying bogus claims that this was like a terrorist march.
00:02:35.880 So I just want to take one second to just step out of their conversation, because their conversation is so bogus that we don't need to even inhabit it.
00:02:44.000 Let me just tell you what I saw, because I was there.
00:02:47.080 I marched on 7th Avenue from 50th Street to 14th Street with my two children, one of whom was nervous about big crowds.
00:02:54.760 And then I explained to him that your entire life is going to be stressful if you don't fight this thing with us.
00:02:59.940 And it's a lot easier to go to a march than live under a dictatorship for the rest of your natural life.
00:03:06.020 And what I saw in the crowd was people who some people who go to these things always the hardcore.
00:03:14.360 And then I saw, as you said, the numbers show 2 million more people than last time.
00:03:18.400 I saw a lot of people who are tiptoeing in.
00:03:20.660 I saw a lot of people getting courage from other people who had courage earlier.
00:03:25.460 I saw the epidemic quality of courage.
00:03:28.380 I saw a lot of Mamdani signs.
00:03:31.440 Again, I'm not going to say why it what it wasn't.
00:03:34.280 I'll say what it was.
00:03:35.160 People, I think, are ready.
00:03:37.200 And you see this with the support for Pritzker also, for someone who's going to fight, but actually fight with a smile and not just fight Trump, but fight to do things, to build things, to create things.
00:03:47.240 We are on the brink in New York of a new mayoral administration that is actually promising not just to resist, but to build things, do things, have the landscape change, have life become less hard for people.
00:03:59.320 And what I saw is actually, it was such a warm, I mean, I don't take my kids to a giant crowd and keep them in a giant crowd for hours if it's unsafe.
00:04:14.300 It felt like the safest place to be in this city because it felt like my children were surrounded by people who believe that whatever my children grow up to be, however they look, whoever they love, my children were surrounded in that crowd.
00:04:29.320 By people who believe in their right to be, to exist, to be free, to have their voices heard.
00:04:36.780 There was, to me, I've been to a lot of places, I felt as safe in that crowd as I've ever felt.
00:04:42.680 Our relationships were direct with the leaders of these three countries.
00:04:46.500 And we were hearing that Hamas was positive on the deal.
00:04:50.180 And yet I was reading intelligence reports every day and getting briefings from the CIA three times a day.
00:04:56.780 And those intelligence briefings were suggesting that Hamas was going to say no.
00:05:01.400 And so Jared and I had to make a decision as to where we thought this was going.
00:05:06.860 And both of us, you know, we didn't need to convince one another.
00:05:10.200 We really felt that this was going in a positive way.
00:05:12.940 And sure enough, Hamas came out and said, you know, we accept the president's plan.
00:05:18.180 And that allowed us to get into the next gear.
00:05:21.780 And one thing that also caused confusion after that was they put in some language that was really very face-saving for them in order to do.
00:05:29.760 And one thing I would tell everyone is in the Middle East, you just have to ignore all of the public statements that everyone puts out.
00:05:35.500 Because they're all just talking to their political bases.
00:05:39.040 But the message they were telling us was that they were on board with releasing the hostages.
00:05:43.060 They wanted to end the war.
00:05:44.660 They wanted to negotiate on some of the different variables in the agreement, but on the little stuff and not the big stuff.
00:05:50.900 What Steve and I said to the mediators is, let's go to Sharm el-Sheikh.
00:05:54.760 We'll do the negotiation.
00:05:56.340 But we would prefer that they pre-agree to as many things as possible.
00:06:00.500 We don't have to start the negotiations when we get there.
00:06:03.300 There are certain issues that could be adjudicated now.
00:06:06.220 And if they're not going to agree to those issues, then let's not bother with the trip.
00:06:10.340 So we tried to diffuse some of the more complex issues before they came to Sharm el-Sheikh in order to give us a higher probability of success and a more efficient negotiation when we got there.
00:06:22.960 Did you have the authority to make the deal, to make these compromises?
00:06:28.080 What kind of authority did you get?
00:06:30.040 Let me ask it that way.
00:06:30.880 To not make a bad deal.
00:06:33.300 But Hamas was going to-
00:06:35.180 Does that describe President Trump's mandate?
00:06:36.840 I would say-
00:06:37.340 Don't make a bad deal.
00:06:38.600 Don't make a bad deal.
00:06:39.320 But Hamas was going to be there.
00:06:41.600 And I know that you spoke directly.
00:06:44.420 So did you have to get authority to do that?
00:06:47.280 Or was-
00:06:48.100 Yes.
00:06:48.640 We both described it to the president as this.
00:06:51.340 If we would have an opportunity to meet Hamas, and if, in our view, that opportunity could lead to a deal, were you comfortable with allowing us to go meet with Hamas?
00:07:03.440 That was the question that we asked him and the entire foreign policy staff.
00:07:07.880 And?
00:07:08.140 And the answer came back, if you feel that you can get to a deal, of course.
00:07:12.960 Why wouldn't we, why wouldn't I encourage, I being President Trump, why wouldn't I encourage you to get into that room and get it finished?
00:07:19.960 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:07:27.520 Pray for our enemies.
00:07:29.480 Because we're going medieval on these people.
00:07:32.720 You're just not going to free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:07:37.000 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:07:38.900 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:07:40.340 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:07:43.020 It's going to happen.
00:07:44.060 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:07:47.600 MAGA Media.
00:07:49.040 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:07:54.480 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:07:58.240 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:08:04.540 War Room.
00:08:05.440 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
00:08:07.760 It's Monday, 20 October at Year of Our Lord 2025.
00:08:16.260 We start off the week with a massive, I don't know, cyber attack, or they're saying it's a technical problem.
00:08:21.880 But I believe, folks, what is it?
00:08:26.180 Amazon World Systems, the cloud and everything associated with it, shows you the vulnerability of the United States of America to a cyber attack.
00:08:36.500 I hope someone's listening to a cyber attack because the Chinese Communist Party, as their economy continues to plunge, and as Scott Besson said the other day, and Scott Besson's now going to be there negotiating first to kind of lay the groundwork for, I guess, President Trump's meeting with shit, which I don't even know if it's going to happen, and I would recommend it doesn't happen, while they're trying to crush us economic warfare with rare earths.
00:09:04.680 This is their Bible, unrestricted warfare.
00:09:07.160 We've talked to you about this since the very first episodes of the show back in War Room and Pandemic, right?
00:09:15.140 Back in January 2020, right after we shifted off of War Room impeachment.
00:09:18.820 The unrestricted warfare.
00:09:22.300 They understand they can't beat the foreign devils with straight up militarily, or at least they didn't in the late 90s after the Gulf War with all the advanced technology General Schwarzkopf had at his disposal.
00:09:35.120 So they went to other means, subversion.
00:09:39.060 Oh, subversion.
00:09:40.440 Gosh, did I see that in the streets of the United States this weekend?
00:09:43.920 Look at Morning Joe.
00:09:44.900 Morning Joe alternates now between pastor.
00:09:47.700 It's either pastor Scarborough, or we get that.
00:09:52.720 We get interpretations of the Old and New Testament every other day.
00:09:55.480 And then he's a limited-government Republican, limited-government constitutional conservative libertarian.
00:10:03.340 So we're alternating between those two.
00:10:05.580 Joe, when you're sitting there and saying people are afraid, friends of you are afraid, hey, if you're not an illegal alien, nothing to worry about.
00:10:13.160 Or a street criminal thug, okay?
00:10:15.640 So if you're not a criminal, or most importantly, if you're not an illegal alien, all good.
00:10:21.980 Okay?
00:10:22.420 All good.
00:10:23.480 So, no, we're going to roll up.
00:10:26.160 You don't say anything about the scale.
00:10:27.660 We're going to roll up the 10 to 20 million that on your show every morning for four years sat there and go, there's no border, gosh.
00:10:38.500 You know, when it got over a couple hundred thousand a month, you said, hey, you know, this asylum seekers and the UN refugee, gosh, are we treating them well?
00:10:48.100 Or they make sure they get their COVID shots and they come across?
00:10:50.900 You allowed, your show promoted, MSNBC promoted actively every day an invasion of our country of 10 to 20 million.
00:10:59.780 And they're all going home.
00:11:01.960 They're all going home.
00:11:03.660 The only thing that's going to stop us sending all of them home is the Republican establishment, the Republican vested economic interest.
00:11:13.160 They're saying, oh, no, no, no, no, the agricultural workers, you know, the agriculture illegal aliens can't go home because the Americans won't do the jobs.
00:11:21.160 It's all these excuses.
00:11:23.020 Yes.
00:11:23.480 Kind of a variation on the theme of H1B visa scam.
00:11:29.160 Of which every H1B visa holder in this country is here on a scam.
00:11:33.980 This should be revoked immediately and sent home.
00:11:36.660 And those jobs open up to American citizens.
00:11:40.660 Yes.
00:11:41.500 The president has sent ICE into these into these insurrectionist cities, these sanctuary cities.
00:11:48.940 And they should start arresting.
00:11:52.020 They should start doing mass arrest of government officials that are stopping this.
00:11:59.180 Let's let's let's go to look.
00:12:00.700 This is why we passed.
00:12:01.840 This is why you signed the Antifa, the Antifa terrorist executive order.
00:12:08.260 It's just not the grunt dunes on the street.
00:12:10.200 It's not the foot soldiers.
00:12:12.520 They're they're they're they're replaceable.
00:12:14.860 They don't get in the left.
00:12:16.120 The guys running left don't care about them.
00:12:17.960 The second layer of the people that train them from the national security apparatus of the United States and others and other intelligence services.
00:12:25.140 And, yes, our own military, certain rogue elements are that's where you ought to be.
00:12:29.340 But most importantly is where President Trump said he said he said on the plane.
00:12:33.160 We're going to have to source and the money and the organization.
00:12:36.720 Oh, and let's throw in the enemy of the people, the media.
00:12:40.740 You talk about epic fails.
00:12:43.020 Could you have a bigger fail than no kings?
00:12:45.620 First of all, the mere concept, we won the House, the Senate, the presidency, the popular voter landslide and the Electoral College.
00:12:54.320 Ninety percent of the counties in this country voted.
00:12:57.900 If you look at a map, it's all red except for a except for a couple of certain areas.
00:13:03.300 You know where it's not red?
00:13:04.080 University cities, because that's where all the Marxists run the universities.
00:13:07.420 All that will be shut down.
00:13:09.500 Just don't talk about their research money.
00:13:10.840 Go in and say, hey, this is the way it's going to be.
00:13:12.640 Get rid of all these professors.
00:13:15.000 Get rid of all these professors.
00:13:16.540 All the tenure, screw it.
00:13:17.740 You're out.
00:13:18.220 You don't get a penny from us.
00:13:19.420 Not just research money.
00:13:21.120 Any support money.
00:13:22.180 They'll all be going belly up in a moment.
00:13:25.120 Play hardball.
00:13:26.140 Because you've got the university towns.
00:13:28.180 You have the large urban areas filled with, wait for it, illegal aliens.
00:13:34.160 And then you have some coastal communities with the elites.
00:13:38.140 You know, La Jolla and Malibu and up in the Bay Area.
00:13:42.740 The Hamptons.
00:13:44.940 Right?
00:13:45.940 You've got the awfully, awfully crowd looking down their nose at the American people.
00:13:50.720 Mocking the American people.
00:13:52.320 Laughing at the American people.
00:13:53.480 Well, you ain't going to be laughing for too long.
00:13:55.000 Because come November, what is it, 4th, you're going to have Mandomi in that crowd in New York.
00:14:03.300 Marxist, jihadist.
00:14:06.200 Just like the French Revolution.
00:14:07.560 It'll be a year or two, but they'll get the guillotine out.
00:14:09.560 It'll be out.
00:14:10.260 Or you've got to deal with the populist nationalists on the right.
00:14:12.720 And you ain't going to like that either.
00:14:15.340 But at least we're not going to be stringing people up and shooting them like those guys are.
00:14:19.960 Like their hero, Luigi, what is it, Manjani?
00:14:23.720 Luigi, Manjoni, thank you.
00:14:26.840 Luigi Manjoni.
00:14:28.040 It's a poster boy.
00:14:31.800 Yes.
00:14:33.220 Revolutionary change is coming, but we've got to shut down this.
00:14:35.920 The No Kings was a joke.
00:14:38.220 A bunch of old, out of touch, ornery, white liberals.
00:14:43.800 The same obnoxious people you've been dealing with your entire life.
00:14:46.400 The Karens.
00:14:48.540 The Karens.
00:14:49.520 In force.
00:14:51.260 The Rachel Maddow crowd.
00:14:53.080 Nicole Wallace.
00:14:54.620 They bombed the other night that thing in New York.
00:14:57.560 They had a short break.
00:14:58.220 Back in a moment.
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00:16:52.500 There is so much going on, right?
00:17:00.920 These are weeks in which decades happen.
00:17:03.960 I think we've got another one this week.
00:17:08.260 A couple things.
00:17:09.180 Number one, the no kings, which is obviously a joke.
00:17:13.880 It's because, and maybe I can have later the CNN.
00:17:17.060 CNN did a great spot on it.
00:17:19.220 Let's go back to where you, because you're the point of contact.
00:17:23.200 This audience is the point of contact in driving the agenda.
00:17:27.560 Okay.
00:17:28.620 One of the biggest things that you've worked on another massive victory.
00:17:32.040 It was in 21 in early 22.
00:17:35.600 I don't know.
00:17:36.340 We changed.
00:17:36.980 I think the redistricting under the grass.
00:17:38.320 I think it was eight seats overall, maybe a few more.
00:17:40.600 Missouri, Tennessee, the big one was five in Florida.
00:17:45.360 And that essentially let us keep the house.
00:17:47.720 Or it made it so close to keeping the house that it was, it was necessary.
00:17:54.180 If you didn't have that, it would have been quite ugly.
00:17:57.580 The, the, the, the massive focus the grassroots has had in Texas to get the five.
00:18:04.560 We should have gotten eight, but we got five.
00:18:06.740 Spent a couple of days down in Texas this past week talking to the folks that did that,
00:18:10.200 the grassroots leaders.
00:18:11.160 Of course, Abbott's running around trying to take credit for it.
00:18:14.040 Now he didn't do anything.
00:18:14.940 In fact, he tried to stop it many times because the establishment, particularly the state capitals,
00:18:20.840 don't want it.
00:18:21.520 They do all their horse trading among the state, you know, legislatures and state senators.
00:18:25.560 They cut all their deals with the Democrats.
00:18:27.220 Some part of the deal is we're not going to force redistricting.
00:18:29.260 Yes, that is an ugly truth, ladies and gentlemen.
00:18:31.840 Why do you think right now we have 21?
00:18:35.840 I'm not talking about the gerrymandered in Louisiana.
00:18:38.920 They're coming out of the Syrian court case.
00:18:40.260 That's not the, that's another 10 to 15, maybe more.
00:18:43.540 Okay.
00:18:44.520 I'm talking about ones just with demographic shifts.
00:18:47.440 Why, why is it always the war room posse or the war room or Alex DeGrasse and these people
00:18:51.620 that have to get up on it and force really the tip of a bayonet people to do this?
00:18:56.920 Because in the state capitals, they, they cut their deals, right?
00:19:00.680 Their real estate deals, their company deals, their tax deals, all of it up there.
00:19:05.800 And they, and part of the thing is we're not going to redistrict.
00:19:08.360 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:19:10.780 How could it possibly be 21 seats on a gross amount?
00:19:14.240 We have 21 and now CNN, Mary's working.
00:19:16.680 If you, if you combine that with the Supreme court ruling structurally, it's virtually impossible
00:19:24.020 for them to take the house ever again.
00:19:25.980 Think about that for a second.
00:19:27.080 Or very tough, maybe a generation.
00:19:29.620 If we do our job.
00:19:31.160 Okay.
00:19:31.860 Number one, makes the Senate kind of out of reach.
00:19:34.720 If president Trump does what he knows needs to be done and we force a mid decade census and
00:19:40.880 cut out the illegal aliens, cause everything with the democratic party is illegal aliens.
00:19:45.080 That's why they let the 10 to 20 million in on Biden's watch.
00:19:48.000 They knew they needed that because they can't do it with people called American citizens.
00:19:52.420 Cause American citizens are not going to vote for this crap.
00:19:54.540 And they know that.
00:19:56.640 So in that massive shift and also understanding with the mid century, with the reallocation in
00:20:05.360 the mid century census, the electoral college change, it makes it almost impossible, not impossible,
00:20:15.060 but much, much harder for them to win the presidency.
00:20:20.340 So actually in democracy, people, citizens going to the voting booth and voting, it's
00:20:28.600 getting grimmer and grimmer.
00:20:31.780 And they know this, the money in back of these guys, services guys that are smart and Chinese
00:20:35.020 Communist Party, it's smart.
00:20:36.860 So they understand the wake up call they get.
00:20:39.860 Well, first of all, if that's why they stole it in 2020, they were shocked by Trump in 16.
00:20:43.840 We snuck up on them because they thought they had us right.
00:20:47.420 And they didn't did all the Russian, the treason around the Russian hoax and all that was to
00:20:52.240 try to, you know, get Trump impeached, thrown out of office or just to shore his presidency.
00:20:56.960 Then in 2020, they stole the election.
00:20:59.260 Yes, they did.
00:21:00.100 You know, they did.
00:21:00.920 We would have never won what 14, 14, we took back 14 house seats and the guy loses done
00:21:07.420 working like that.
00:21:08.240 Sorry.
00:21:08.660 Then in 2024, the sweeping victory kind of out of nowhere, the sweeping victory, particularly
00:21:14.580 with low propensity, low information voters, people just not into politics, rally to the
00:21:18.820 cause.
00:21:19.500 Then the coalition of, you know, the parental rights movement with Make America Healthy Again,
00:21:27.860 combined with the populist nationalist MAGA movement combined.
00:21:32.000 That's a, that's a big combo platter.
00:21:34.580 So knowing how desperate they are, they are now going to, you know, beyond democratic means.
00:21:42.500 It's all about violence and intimidation.
00:21:44.340 They're going to take to the streets.
00:21:45.380 We have seven, first of all, they didn't have seven million.
00:21:47.860 Also, who cares?
00:21:50.320 It was the old age home let out.
00:21:51.720 It was like walkers, right?
00:21:53.200 They got walkers.
00:21:53.940 They're, these people have no punch.
00:21:57.280 So who cares if they're in the streets?
00:21:58.760 Go in the streets.
00:21:59.320 Go in the streets next weekend.
00:22:01.020 Get them up every weekend.
00:22:02.180 Get their exercise.
00:22:03.620 Get those, get their walking shoes on, right?
00:22:07.140 And take all the drugs on MSNBC.
00:22:10.760 MSNBC, it's a great piece in the Free Beacon.
00:22:12.920 Absolute, complete implosion of viewers, particularly young people.
00:22:18.000 Implosion.
00:22:18.480 They had this thing the other night in New York City, a bomb.
00:22:21.480 They bring out Martin Sheen.
00:22:22.940 Oh, because West Wing is up.
00:22:25.020 They all, you know, oh gosh, it was so amazing.
00:22:27.360 He was a constitutional law professor.
00:22:28.740 He talked about so many root causes and they saw so many problems.
00:22:33.140 It's all crap.
00:22:34.560 Who cares, right?
00:22:36.140 They have no punch.
00:22:37.900 And now they know they have no punch.
00:22:39.560 They're getting spun off, dis and dismissed.
00:22:41.980 They're going to get more and more violent.
00:22:45.020 The violence of Luigi Mangione and also what's coming with, with ma'am, Donnie.
00:22:50.420 Sadiq Khan right now, you've got Peter McIlvaney and all my brothers and sisters over in London sending me this.
00:23:00.040 They now got the groomers.
00:23:01.200 They said for years, no, they don't do grooming of these young girls and these mass rapes by these South Asians, read Pakistani Muslims.
00:23:09.540 They don't do these mass, they don't do these rapes of, you know, the granddaughters, great-granddaughters of the heroes of World War II.
00:23:17.460 No, they don't do that in London.
00:23:18.900 It doesn't happen.
00:23:19.480 Well, guess what?
00:23:19.840 It does happen in London.
00:23:20.940 And Sadiq Khan, you heard that name before?
00:23:22.840 New York City is going to be worse than London within 10 years.
00:23:30.520 And now you've got Katz and Matidius, everybody's up there.
00:23:32.900 Gosh, we've got to get Sliwa out of the race after supporting the entire time.
00:23:37.840 Yeah, we've got to get down to one candidate.
00:23:39.320 Wow, interesting.
00:23:40.720 That's fascinating.
00:23:42.560 Who thought, who thunk of that?
00:23:43.900 That's amazing.
00:23:44.600 They haven't taken the Working Families Party and the DSA seriously.
00:23:50.820 These are serious organizations.
00:23:52.440 You may not like what they stand for.
00:23:53.860 You may hate what they stand for.
00:23:55.400 But they got stroke.
00:23:56.680 How did they get stroke?
00:23:58.060 The same way the Precinct Strategy, Turning Point USA, the War Room Posse, all of it.
00:24:04.120 It's called going door-to-door, knocking on doors, and engaging people.
00:24:08.020 They don't care how much money you throw up against them, Cuomo, and the ads.
00:24:10.740 The ads aren't, nobody watches the ads anymore.
00:24:12.920 It's white noise.
00:24:14.600 So as they increasingly get removed from the ability to win, because the common sense of
00:24:22.380 the American people go, no, these people are Marxist.
00:24:25.060 These people are jihadist.
00:24:26.640 They stand against everything the United States of America has ever stood for, and we're not
00:24:30.680 going to do it.
00:24:33.120 And for all my conservative colleagues, you know, all these guys in bow ties, and they're
00:24:36.640 going, he's a socialist, it's going to be so great when he wins, because then he's going
00:24:39.640 to run out of other people's money.
00:24:40.740 Yo, read the Russian Revolution.
00:24:43.360 When the Bolsheviks take over, the Bolsheviks had 10, 9%.
00:24:46.140 I mean, they never, they were, they were a joke, except they were a killer elite.
00:24:50.340 They bound together like Mondami and like these, look at, important, look in Chicago.
00:24:57.840 Antifa, these people are serious.
00:24:59.560 They're serious revolutionaries, and they have to be done away with.
00:25:05.020 What do I mean by that?
00:25:05.840 They got to be swept up, put in federal lockup, taken to trial immediately, and then either
00:25:11.560 send them to prison or get them out of the country, because most of them are not here
00:25:16.500 legally, or they're on some visas, got to be stripped away, and get them the hell out of
00:25:21.460 the country.
00:25:21.900 It's not time to be apologetic for this, Joe Scarborough.
00:25:26.560 As a libertarian and a constitutional conservative and limited government conservative, I tell
00:25:31.300 my friends, what about if your son, their sons and daughters ain't going to get rolled up
00:25:34.800 because of the United States citizens, unless they're up in some ICE agent's grill.
00:25:40.640 And yes, the ICE agents should be fully covered, and the troops should be covered.
00:25:43.900 We're not going to let you sit there and intimidate them by doxing their families and intimidating
00:25:47.320 their families.
00:25:47.720 They happen on the Border Patrol.
00:25:49.160 It happened in ICE agents.
00:25:51.900 It's bad enough.
00:25:52.840 Look, they got indictments on Antifa down in Texas.
00:25:55.420 Texas, folks, not just a swing state.
00:25:59.800 The Muslim Brotherhood and the Islamists are coming for Texas hard, hard, hard, hard, because
00:26:09.620 they understand in Texas is the railhead of the MAGA movement.
00:26:13.540 As goes Texas, so goes the nation.
00:26:15.780 They think they see a soft underbelly here.
00:26:19.480 They think they see a people that are prepared to allow political correctness and people to
00:26:24.260 shame them into silence.
00:26:26.780 Not going to happen.
00:26:28.660 Our country comes first, and American citizens come first, not the invaders.
00:26:37.100 I said this at this speech down at Pinehurst in November of 2023, projecting out after Trump's
00:26:44.920 victory.
00:26:45.400 I said he's going to win.
00:26:47.160 After his victories, 100 to 200 days after he gets everything else sorted, they will start
00:26:52.480 to have the massive budget cuts they're going to have to have to try to get the spending
00:26:57.220 under control, to get our debt problem under control.
00:26:59.940 And oh, by the way, then they're going to start the wait for it, mass deportations.
00:27:03.520 The convergence of those two things is going to drive the left nuts because they understand
00:27:07.720 game over, game over.
00:27:11.860 If you take away the dole and you take away everything you're paying for illegal aliens
00:27:16.660 on the medical, health care side, all of it, snap, all of it, and you start mass deportations,
00:27:23.940 they're finished.
00:27:26.000 Everything they're fighting this for now is on illegal aliens.
00:27:29.000 This is what the government shutdown's about.
00:27:30.660 This is what the fight about the ICE agents is about.
00:27:32.840 This is what they're fighting the shift in the House and the Senate, what they're doing
00:27:39.820 in these gerrymandered districts at the Supreme Court, why they're fighting a census.
00:27:45.140 It all comes back to the fact they can never have a majority vote of the American people.
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00:29:13.000 The relationships were direct with the leaders of these three countries.
00:29:16.980 And we were hearing that Hamas was positive on the deal.
00:29:20.520 And yet I was reading intelligence reports every day and getting briefings from the CIA
00:29:25.520 three times a day.
00:29:27.040 And those intelligence briefings were suggesting that Hamas was going to say no.
00:29:30.980 And so Jared and I had to make a decision as to where we thought this was going.
00:29:37.340 And both of us, you know, we didn't need to convince one another.
00:29:40.700 We really felt that this was going in a positive way.
00:29:43.480 And sure enough, Hamas came out and said, you know, we accept the president's plan.
00:29:48.500 And that allowed us to get into the next gear.
00:29:52.720 And one thing that also caused confusion after that was they put in some language
00:29:56.220 that was really very face-saving for them in order to do.
00:30:00.220 And one thing I would tell everyone is in the Middle East, you just have to ignore all
00:30:03.940 of the public statements that everyone puts out because they're all just talking to their
00:30:07.960 political bases.
00:30:09.460 But the message they were telling us was that they were on board with releasing the hostages.
00:30:13.500 They wanted to end the war.
00:30:14.560 They wanted to negotiate on some of the different variables in the agreement, but on the little
00:30:19.860 stuff and not the big stuff.
00:30:21.420 What Steve and I said to the mediators is, let's go to Sharm El Sheikh.
00:30:25.220 We'll do the negotiation.
00:30:26.780 But we would prefer that they pre-agree to as many things as possible.
00:30:30.960 We don't have to start the negotiations when we get there.
00:30:33.900 There are certain issues that could be adjudicated now.
00:30:36.420 And if they're not going to agree to those issues, then let's not bother with the trip.
00:30:40.300 So we tried to defuse some of the more complex issues before they came to Sharm El Sheikh in
00:30:47.220 order to give us a higher probability of success and a more efficient negotiation when we got there.
00:30:52.960 Did you have the authority to make the deal, to make these compromises?
00:30:58.540 What kind of authority did you get?
00:31:00.300 I got it.
00:31:00.660 I can't take Leslie Stahl.
00:31:03.160 Thanks.
00:31:03.420 Trump warned Zelensky in a meeting that Russia could destroy Ukraine.
00:31:08.380 This thing on Friday, President Trump just told them, hey, you're living in a fantasy.
00:31:12.940 They came over here saying, oh, we got – and they were telling everybody, we got the tomahawks.
00:31:17.840 They even said afterwards in their own interviews, we thought we had the tomahawks.
00:31:20.440 That's why it got ugly in the meeting.
00:31:21.800 President Trump had to read in the riot act.
00:31:23.840 And they raised their voices.
00:31:25.860 Yes, they did.
00:31:27.300 Zelensky raised his voice in the cabinet room.
00:31:30.140 I don't know, man.
00:31:30.960 I don't know why we keep inviting him back.
00:31:33.900 He's a protectorate, by the way.
00:31:36.300 Just like that interview last night on 60 Minutes, Tel Aviv, Levin, all the Israel first crowd,
00:31:42.260 you see the destruction you have brought Israel to.
00:31:45.500 You, you, you.
00:31:46.920 The Israel first crowd in the United States of America protecting Netanyahu.
00:31:53.840 He's brought his country to the edge of destruction.
00:31:56.300 And also this goes back to – so first off, people ask me, why Jared Kushner and Witkoff – because the president trusts Kushner and Witkoff to deal with him straight and to be objective in this.
00:32:09.620 And they're both Jewish, right?
00:32:12.020 And Jared's observant.
00:32:13.480 He's one of the most religious Jewish guys I've ever met.
00:32:16.380 Very dedicated to his religion.
00:32:18.860 Very, very, very dedicated to the Jewish faith.
00:32:23.280 Those two guys – President Trump will use instruments.
00:32:25.620 Those two guys are instruments for him to negotiate directly.
00:32:29.820 As I said on the show, Marco was sent over there.
00:32:32.440 And the reason Marco's not in the room, not in the deal where it's important is – and he's not on 60 Minutes last night.
00:32:38.860 So when Netanyahu fired on Qatar – and I'm Qatar's biggest critic because of the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:32:46.180 But when they fired on Qatar and tried to kill the Hamas negotiating team, President Trump saw how the entire Iran situation was about killing the negotiating team that was supposed to meet with Witkoff on that Sunday.
00:32:59.760 They went off on Thursday.
00:33:01.320 He'd had enough of it.
00:33:02.120 He sent Marco over.
00:33:02.880 What's the first – to send Marco over to give it to him with both barrels?
00:33:08.020 This is not acceptable.
00:33:09.560 You're not going to do this.
00:33:11.480 President Trump signed an executive order with an Article 5 protection.
00:33:15.240 Think about that for a second.
00:33:16.200 Article 5 protection for Qatar because of that?
00:33:20.780 He sent Rubio over there.
00:33:23.420 What's the next thing we see of Rubio?
00:33:25.460 He's there with Huckabee and Netanyahu at the Wailing Wall with a yarmulke on putting the note in and – no, no, no, no, no.
00:33:32.960 No, no, no, no.
00:33:35.080 You're there to send a message.
00:33:37.140 The message is we've had a belly full of this and it's not going to happen anymore.
00:33:40.940 You're not an ally.
00:33:41.960 You're a protector.
00:33:42.660 And you're going to act like a protector.
00:33:43.780 If you don't like that, then go do it yourself.
00:33:45.660 If you want a greater Israel project, we're not going to stop you.
00:33:48.880 But we're not going to support it.
00:33:50.660 In this section last night, bad enough what we played, the 60 Minutes lead on Thursday night and we played on Friday, but they buried the lead.
00:34:00.680 What they said about the Central Intelligence Agency is what I've been saying on this show from the beginning, and it came from their mouths now.
00:34:10.580 Whitcoff is briefed three times a day by the CIA, and they lie to him.
00:34:17.600 This is not a – this is not some marginal mistake in intelligence.
00:34:22.680 He sat right there.
00:34:23.980 They lied to him three times a day.
00:34:26.160 Hamas doesn't want to do the deal, never going to do the deal.
00:34:27.940 That's the Mossad talking.
00:34:30.060 That's Netanyahu talking.
00:34:31.900 Radcliffe should resign today or let's just have a congressional hearing, right, on national television, and let's just put it out there exactly about what you told these people in the negotiation.
00:34:44.620 And let's go back to what you told the president of the United States about the beginning of the 12-day war because that was a lie also, as now we know, by the times of Israel putting out the cabinet minutes of the war cabinet of Netanyahu.
00:34:59.180 They were two years away, not two days, not two weeks, two years, of which he copped a half of that on Brett Baer on that Sunday night.
00:35:07.980 We said, yeah, yeah, six months, nine months, it's a year.
00:35:11.400 Wasn't two days, wasn't two weeks, it was two years.
00:35:15.620 Basically, there ain't no emergency.
00:35:17.880 There was an emergency to kill the negotiators, of which they did, so that Witkoff couldn't have a meeting in Muscat, Oman, on that Sunday.
00:35:31.340 Why?
00:35:33.660 Because the Mossad controls the CIA.
00:35:36.480 Thank God for Tulsi Gabbard.
00:35:38.480 They tried to run Tulsi Gabbard out of this city.
00:35:42.120 You talk about courage.
00:35:44.180 You talk about a profile in courage.
00:35:46.200 It's Tulsi Gabbard and her team over there at D&I.
00:35:51.180 She testified to Congress.
00:35:53.860 She went on and talked in the media.
00:35:56.640 She was vilified.
00:35:57.900 And this is Israel's first crowd trying to run a patriot out of town because she's telling the truth to the commander-in-chief.
00:36:08.680 And Huckabee, the clown ambassador who's an embarrassment, a total embarrassment, what he's saying over there is insanity.
00:36:15.080 He ought to be recalled immediately and removed immediately.
00:36:21.080 And my buddy, Joel Pollack, I know people go crazy.
00:36:26.740 I think Joel Pollack are the ambassador.
00:36:29.240 Because Joel Pollack's a decent, good man.
00:36:31.940 And when he knows all the facts, he's not going to be like Huckabee.
00:36:35.440 That'll be a little controversial.
00:36:36.840 I got that.
00:36:38.900 I'll put David Friedman back in there.
00:36:40.360 At least they're going to deal with you straight and not misinterpret.
00:36:45.560 Not misinterpret.
00:36:47.720 Misinterpretation is bald-faced lies.
00:36:49.140 These are bald-faced lies.
00:36:52.600 And we need regime change in Beijing, and that's got to come from Lao Baijing.
00:36:56.060 Look, I'm all for regime change in Tehran.
00:36:58.840 I'm all for regime change in Beijing.
00:37:00.840 But that's got to come from the people.
00:37:02.520 Lao Baijing have to overthrow them.
00:37:04.380 You can't decapitate the Chinese Communist Party.
00:37:06.620 I've got Fennell here in a moment.
00:37:09.240 We're going to talk about that.
00:37:10.140 You can't decapitate the mullahs, because then you're going to have a civil war for 25 years.
00:37:16.480 We're going to get drawn into it.
00:37:17.320 The people have to overthrow these people.
00:37:19.520 Now you can crack down on them so the West is not financing it or allowing it to be financed,
00:37:27.060 as we are both in Beijing by Wall Street and the corporatists in Silicon Valley or in Tehran
00:37:32.920 by the Chinese Communist Party buying their oil, which I've said for years now, shut it down 100%.
00:37:39.580 But Ratcliffe, you've got Jared and Wyckoff sitting there trying to negotiate a deal,
00:37:47.480 and the CIA is lying to them.
00:37:49.260 They said that Qatar and the Turkish intelligence had the reality.
00:37:55.320 Gosh, that brings me back to October 7th.
00:38:01.820 There's a book out there right now, While Israel Slept, by two of the, I guess, the top technology
00:38:07.900 and military entrepreneurs and writers and thinkers in Israel.
00:38:13.480 You can't put it down.
00:38:15.660 I recommend everybody get that.
00:38:17.220 We're going to try to have those guys on if we can do it either late this week or next week.
00:38:20.980 But what Jared said, first he said about Netanyahu, he and Wyckoff,
00:38:27.560 about doing everything to try to stop.
00:38:28.940 And Trump told him, hey, it's over, and stop intruding in peace.
00:38:34.660 You're out of control, I think the quote was.
00:38:37.940 You're out of control, and it's not going to happen.
00:38:40.620 If you want to do it on your own, because remember, they sucked us in that war.
00:38:43.900 If you want to do it on your own, and you can do it on your own,
00:38:46.000 I'm a believer in nationalism, go do it, go do it, go do it today, keep going.
00:38:53.100 Greater Israel, done, hit it, go, boom, go with God, good luck.
00:39:00.000 But you can't, you need us.
00:39:02.580 You started something, you needed us from the beginning to defend
00:39:06.100 with Aegis cruisers and Patriot missiles and Thad missiles.
00:39:10.160 We were an active combatant supplying you from the beginning.
00:39:13.440 And you couldn't end it, and we had to do that,
00:39:16.320 including the Tomahawk missiles that took out the surface part
00:39:19.740 of the enrichment program.
00:39:22.680 And Zelensky took that, oh, yeah, well, hey,
00:39:25.520 they used Tomahawks in Persia, let's go.
00:39:29.840 We're going to go.
00:39:30.760 And they're all puffed up and talking, they got this,
00:39:33.380 and they're doing this, and they're going to do that?
00:39:36.280 They're going to do the other thing?
00:39:38.340 They're going to do it all?
00:39:39.400 Yeah, we're taking on Russia.
00:39:42.320 We need to hit St. Petersburg, hit Moscow.
00:39:44.680 Well, if we bring America into a tactical nuclear war,
00:39:48.000 that's, you know, too bad.
00:39:50.320 No.
00:39:50.760 President Trump set their minds right on Friday.
00:39:54.200 It's not going to happen.
00:39:56.540 Trump warned Zelensky in meeting that Russia could destroy Ukraine.
00:40:01.680 They should take that as a papal bull.
00:40:04.400 When the guy that does not want to be your sponsor,
00:40:08.940 but because of the elites in this country,
00:40:10.700 and because of all the bad decisions that the elites in this country made
00:40:15.000 to allow 1.8 million Ukrainians to be dead or wounded in the battlefield
00:40:20.100 to look like the Western Front in World War I.
00:40:23.960 Let me read the subtitles.
00:40:25.700 Details emerge, a fractious encounter.
00:40:29.100 Yeah, voices were raised.
00:40:30.320 They said, New York Times said it was a pointed discussion.
00:40:34.400 Putin's talking points echoed.
00:40:36.140 They've got to throw that in there.
00:40:38.360 FT's not going to be good.
00:40:39.760 FT's not going to feel good unless they get Putin's talking points.
00:40:42.740 How about reality?
00:40:44.780 Maybe reality was brought up.
00:40:46.300 You guys don't like it.
00:40:47.620 You don't like it, Financial Times of London.
00:40:50.040 Do the following.
00:40:51.340 Get the deadbeat nations that you report from France, Germany, the United Kingdom.
00:40:55.800 Let's throw in Italy.
00:40:57.520 Show me what you got.
00:40:59.100 Here's what you got.
00:41:00.180 Nothing.
00:41:00.620 You came over here a couple weeks ago, and I told you at the time, it was all to suck
00:41:05.540 President Trump in, and all President Trump did was expose how phony they are.
00:41:10.640 They're going to do this, and they're going to do that, and Zelensky comes, and they go
00:41:14.220 over to the embassy, and they're having cognacs and cigars, and they're talking about, yeah,
00:41:18.080 the Americans are going to do all this.
00:41:19.700 They got no money.
00:41:21.560 They got no arms.
00:41:23.200 They got no troops.
00:41:24.420 And most importantly, they have no political will.
00:41:27.920 You're about to lose.
00:41:28.760 The Fifth Republic is about to fall under Macron.
00:41:33.140 He can't even get a government in there in Parliament for 30 days because they're dead,
00:41:36.760 cold broke, and they're running at, what, 6.5% of spending the GDP, and they ain't the
00:41:44.260 reserve currency, okay?
00:41:46.920 Germany's all wrapped around the axle.
00:41:48.740 They're saying, well, we sent a brigade up to Lithuania.
00:41:52.100 Isn't that enough?
00:41:52.920 No, it's not enough.
00:41:55.240 You're going to talk big and buy the Russian gauge?
00:41:57.940 You're going to talk big?
00:41:58.720 Then send some troops, send some money, send some arms.
00:42:01.900 In the U.K., Starmer, give me a break.
00:42:04.280 You're dead, cold broke.
00:42:06.580 If you're sending troops anywhere in the U.K., you ought to send them to these towns where
00:42:09.940 they're raping these girls.
00:42:12.460 Send them there and clean up your own mess before you start getting us into some mess over
00:42:16.120 in the bloodlines.
00:42:16.740 We're not going to go, and Trump couldn't be more blunt.
00:42:20.120 It's not going to happen.
00:42:20.880 It's time for you to be thinking about laying down your weapons.
00:42:25.960 Call it a peace treaty, a ceasefire, or a surrender.
00:42:29.540 We don't care, but we're not going to put any more money in it.
00:42:32.200 There's no blood on our hands because we've been against it from day one.
00:42:35.360 The blood is on the hands of Boris Johnson, the Financial Times of London, The Economist,
00:42:42.800 The Guardian, BBC, all the Tories and Labor that voted for it, Macron, Maloney, phony Maloney.
00:42:53.960 Oh, she's going to come at it now with another, you know, family.
00:42:57.100 I'm all for the family.
00:42:57.920 Hey, don't, don't, you ain't going to pivot away from the mess you've made in Ukraine.
00:43:05.240 Radcliffe should either resign, come to Congress and tell us the truth, or resign today.
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00:44:37.520 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:44:45.580 Captain James, for now, we're going to pivot.
00:44:47.560 We're going to talk about, because the Australian ambassador is coming in at 11.
00:44:51.460 We're going to try to cover some of it.
00:44:52.840 I don't know if we're going to get to all of it.
00:44:53.920 But he's here, just to give you the signal, not the noise.
00:44:57.780 He's here for one reason.
00:44:59.760 Heavy rare earth.
00:45:01.760 Australia has some.
00:45:03.780 Brazil has some.
00:45:04.520 This is why they're playing footsie with Lula right now.
00:45:07.660 We've got a problem.
00:45:09.640 And she is trying to drop the hammer on us.
00:45:11.920 And that's why they're not pure competitors.
00:45:15.100 They can never be an ally.
00:45:16.460 We can't cooperate and work together.
00:45:18.420 It's not going to work.
00:45:19.140 It doesn't work like that.
00:45:19.980 The world does not work like that.
00:45:21.640 This is a murderous dictatorship.
00:45:24.360 Murderous.
00:45:25.160 That's killed 250 million of their own people and brag about it.
00:45:28.180 450 million forced abortions.
00:45:33.540 Forced abortions.
00:45:34.560 80% of that little Chinese girls.
00:45:39.980 They're a murderous dictatorship.
00:45:42.360 Worse than the Nazis.
00:45:43.880 Worse than the Bolsheviks.
00:45:45.320 Worse than the Soviets.
00:45:47.060 Worse than Mussolini.
00:45:48.760 Worse than Imperial Japan.
00:45:50.760 Worse than Pol Pot.
00:45:52.080 Add them all up.
00:45:53.420 All of them.
00:45:54.500 Add them all up.
00:45:55.300 And that's what you've got in Beijing.
00:46:00.040 Destroying the Chinese people.
00:46:02.280 You've got Wall Street making money with them.
00:46:04.480 You've got corporatists in America making money with them.
00:46:07.220 You've got the universities making money with them.
00:46:09.820 You've got Silicon Valley working with them, making money.
00:46:13.520 All of the elites in the country.
00:46:15.120 This is why the elites.
00:46:16.820 This is the rot at the bottom.
00:46:19.280 Every law firm's got offices over there.
00:46:21.080 Every investment bank.
00:46:22.060 Every commercial bank.
00:46:23.120 Every accounting firm.
00:46:24.120 And McKinsey's.
00:46:25.500 Don't sit there all high and mighty.
00:46:27.980 That MAGA's a bunch of brown shirts, proto-fascists in the streets.
00:46:32.220 You are in business principally with some of the biggest murderers in the history of mankind.
00:46:37.160 And you know it.
00:46:38.820 And the blood is on your hands.
00:46:40.420 So don't sit there and give me happy talk.
00:46:44.840 Are you shocked, Fennell, that you were a career intelligence officer in the history of the 21st century, one of the greatest?
00:46:56.000 Are you shocked that the CIA would brief Wyckoff and Jared three times a day and not just be wrong, but try to mislead them, sir?
00:47:03.600 No, Steve, I'm not shocked at all.
00:47:07.320 Well, as I said to you in the break, I think, you know, we saw this.
00:47:11.420 I've personally witnessed the CIA get assessments of analysis of the People's Republic of China wrong for 35 years.
00:47:19.460 So they have, you know, I'm not going to say it was purposeful, but they have a blind side on where they cannot see things that go against the established narrative.
00:47:30.260 And once it gets established, they will promote it.
00:47:33.120 They will cherry pick.
00:47:34.140 They will take information and skew it and twist it and turn it to fit their narrative and fit their assessment.
00:47:40.900 And so I'm not surprised.
00:47:42.860 I'm disappointed, but I'm not surprised.
00:47:45.380 In 30, come on, man, in 35 years, when you're dead wrong on everything about the Chinese Communist Party, it's got to be something deeper.
00:47:53.840 It's got to be something deeper than that, isn't it, sir?
00:47:56.160 It just can't be technical problems or they miss something.
00:47:59.740 They're always wrong.
00:48:00.920 I used to get the brief.
00:48:01.600 They're always wrong.
00:48:02.780 They kowtow to the Chinese Communist Party.
00:48:05.420 And they're like the information agency for the Chinese Communist Party.
00:48:08.500 They always put the best face on things, and they always lead you to a thing.
00:48:14.300 They're either a peer competitor or we've got to work together for world peace, right?
00:48:19.080 So it can't be wrong for 35 years.
00:48:20.780 It has to be something deeper than that, does it not, sir?
00:48:24.320 Yes, it is, Steve.
00:48:25.280 And in a book over my shoulder that Brett there and I wrote last year, Embracing Communist China, America's Greatest Strategic Failure, we talk about the reasons.
00:48:34.000 And it's more than just happenstance or mistakes.
00:48:36.700 It's ideological.
00:48:37.720 They have a different ideological worldview.
00:48:40.480 They deeply believed in engagement, that engagement would make China become more like us.
00:48:47.320 And when the evidence started coming in that it wouldn't make them more like us and we became more like China, they continued to deny that existence.
00:48:55.680 And so we're living now with the results of people that have been driven ideologically or been driven by the profit motive.
00:49:03.440 Some people made their careers speaking in China and getting access to leadership in China and bringing back messages from China to the American system.
00:49:15.100 So it's a little bit of ideology.
00:49:17.320 It's a little bit of greed.
00:49:19.320 And then you have to give the Chinese Communist Party credit.
00:49:22.080 Guys like, you know, Deng Xiaoping were very serious people that understood what they were doing and how they could try to infiltrate and break us down ideologically, economically and militarily.
00:49:36.760 And that's where we're at today.
00:49:38.060 Speaking of, Captain Fennell, because he's one of the best, is the only person that Maria Bartiromo's interview with the president was incredibly important.
00:49:48.620 But everyone missed the buried lead except Captain James Fennell.
00:49:54.180 Captain Fennell, what was the buried lead?
00:49:55.780 And we're going to play it this afternoon where I've got time because I don't have time this morning.
00:49:58.780 What is the buried lead, the message to Beijing that President Trump sent with both barrels on Maria Bartiromo yesterday, sir?
00:50:08.860 Yeah, Steve.
00:50:10.680 Yesterday in the interview between the president and Maria Bartiromo, they talked about a number of issues.
00:50:16.000 But the economic trade war between the United States and China was one of the critical ones.
00:50:21.000 And the president talked about his views of these things.
00:50:24.100 But towards the end of that string, in that segment of the interview, he said, Richard Nixon allowed this to happen to open up China.
00:50:32.560 Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
00:50:34.320 You tell me.
00:50:35.560 And then later on, he said that Nixon unleashed a very strong adversary.
00:50:41.320 And so a lot of people in the China hands community will probably pick that up and say, oh, he's criticizing Nixon.
00:50:47.920 I thought he was a Nixon supporter, all of that.
00:50:49.900 But the message is really to Xi and the Chinese Communist Party that's having their fourth plenum today, started today in China for their party congress.
00:51:01.800 The central committee is meeting.
00:51:04.000 And it was a message to Xi and the party to say, listen, you guys have always put Richard Nixon and Kissinger on a pedestal for opening up China.
00:51:13.340 And I am the first president of the United States to say, that's not a good thing.
00:51:18.060 And it's unleashed holy hell on America.
00:51:21.980 And that's a wake up call for me.
00:51:25.140 Hang on for one second.
00:51:26.340 We're going to get into the fourth plenum.
00:51:28.720 We've got Ava and Forrest and Roy from the new federal state of China.
00:51:32.420 Captain James Fornell's with us.
00:51:34.240 We're going to be very honored to have a very special guest when we get back to go through one of the most important fundamental movements that is happening in the United States.
00:51:49.420 A great awakening, not simply politically, but spiritually, that will be the countervailing power against the elites as they sell out the United States of America to the Chinese Communist Party.
00:52:04.360 Because guess what?
00:52:06.220 They're Marxists, too.
00:52:08.400 You see it in the streets.
00:52:09.420 You see the subversion going on in the classroom.
00:52:11.480 You see it in the universities.
00:52:13.040 You see it in the media.
00:52:14.540 You see it in the streets.
00:52:15.580 How are these kids formed?
00:52:16.720 The teachers unions, all of it, stacked against the American people in the United States of America.
00:52:25.260 We're not going to stand for it.
00:52:26.500 We're not going to tolerate it.
00:52:27.580 We're going to get rid of it.
00:52:29.120 All of it.
00:52:29.760 Not some of it.
00:52:30.580 All of it.
00:52:32.280 Short break.
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