Trump pivots to domestic issues, including Iran, China, the Middle East, and the Iran nuclear deal, the Iran deal, and much more. Steve and his co-hosts discuss the latest in the Ukraine crisis, the latest on the proposed trade deal with China, and more.
00:01:56.500We told you that this whole Zelensky in the Ukraine situation, in all of it, right, was a total scam and should have never been started back three years ago.
00:02:50.560This is I'm just waiting you for flip to the Ted Cruz.
00:02:53.440The Israel first got their candidate Ted Cruz.
00:02:57.860Duly note, like I said again about DeSantis and I said about Nikki Haley-Ollum, Ted Cruz is never going to be the president of these United States.
00:06:11.100And I understand World War I brutalized them, folded in six weeks, and then became worse on the Jews than the Nazis of turning people into Vichy French.
00:06:21.980Norway, bad as the Nazis, the Quislings.
00:10:48.520You're destroying the American republic, and you're destroying the American citizens, and you're destroying the American people and our social cohesion.
00:11:14.280And all the benefits of what they go to the American citizens.
00:11:19.280So, Mike Lindell, the FBI tried to do everything to you, and they tried to destroy your company, and now you've got a company that's suing you that just got caught for money laundering and bribing politicians.
00:11:31.420Not that they ever did any of that here in the United States, I'm sure, right?
00:11:35.600That's now suing you for billions of dollars.
00:11:41.140Absolutely, I will never settle, and this has all come out, or this judge in Minnesota ruled against my pillow and myself defaming this smart medic who is all over the news, how corrupt they are.
00:11:55.960And then, Steve, another thing, too, people don't realize, Keith Ellison, there's another one that hates our country, the Attorney General of Minnesota.
00:12:03.080He's attacking Mike Lindell, my Lindell Recovery Network, for addicts to get him out of addiction and get him to Jesus.
00:12:53.500I believe this country is an 80-20 country, 80% common sense.
00:12:58.860But they've had the media and everything else just brainwashing and attacking and brainwashing and brainwashing.
00:13:05.940CNN even said the other day, they said, you think all this report's coming about these crooked voting machine companies that it'll help Mike Lindell and MyPillow?
00:13:16.060Well, absolutely it will because I've been sounding the alarm for four and a half years and finally it's all coming out.
00:13:26.060If they money laundered and bribed politicians, this is why they money laundered, had to figure out how to get the cash to them, the kickbacks, in the Philippines and in Asia, in the third world.
00:13:37.340So I, you know, I would be shocked, shocked, and it's hard to shock me, but I'd be shocked if maybe some of that wasn't done in certain states.
00:14:07.640It's not just what these, any computers are capable of, of manipulating things.
00:14:13.820But with this, this company in particular, the, the bribery, the stuff we've had evidence for four and a half years, I spent tens of millions of dollars gathering every single piece of evidence in this country on that company, Dominion, Smartmatic, all the machine companies, all the voting machine companies.
00:14:32.700And, you know, that's another one, too.
00:14:35.740There's, there's another one, Dominion, saying they're bought out by Liberty Vote, and they're going to drop all the, drop all the cases against my pillow on Moody Giuliani, Mike Lindell.
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00:18:49.200And Lindy, you should know, Lindell and these guys are fighting for their lives.
00:18:52.760Because they're trying to be shut down by about 10 different people.
00:18:55.260Including the Attorney General out there who's trying to shut down the Lindell Network, which is Christian-based solutions for people that have addiction.
00:19:04.480Of course they've got to shut that down.
00:19:43.100And this is why, couple that with today's news out of Europe, that they're going to steal the Russian people's assets, the $350 billion.
00:19:50.320Because what this is going to do is destroy the euro as a potential reserve currency, and the central banks are going to load up on gold even more.
00:19:58.460This is Philip Patrick's theory of the case.
00:20:04.780But they list, they say, and they put the United States on there, and they have a lot of experts in here saying, hey, nobody can really get their handles around this.
00:20:14.360So there's five different alternatives.
00:20:16.640There's five ways to try to solve this.
00:20:19.500Number one, wait for it, is massive cuts in federal spending, okay?
00:20:45.020We're not going to solve the debt problem, but we'll solve the deficit problem to start off with, so we won't be adding at the rate we've been adding.
00:20:56.960He and Steve Moore are skipping around right now happy because they like the pro-growth.
00:21:00.760Number three is massive tax increases, right?
00:21:05.980Massive tax increases, particularly on the top brackets, okay, which didn't happen.
00:21:13.080And Larry Kudlow and Steve Moore and Arthur Laffer and Grover Norquist, they're really skipping around now.
00:21:18.580So that's kind of the actions you can take politically that we haven't taken in the past, really.
00:21:26.180You know, President Trump had a pro-growth agenda and did great because of the pandemic, because we only had like a $400 billion deficit, I think, our first year.
00:21:34.420If we had been tough enough or tougher, we might have got that to zero, but decisions were made, and it was fine.
00:21:41.660The fourth and fifth get a little gnarly.
00:21:44.960The number four is default, and they do say their governments around the world are going to be defaulting on this stuff like crazy, defaults.
00:21:52.540And number five, and the way they say really that the guys that run the system are going to get out of here is good old inflation.
00:22:00.300They're going to flake their way out of here.
00:22:02.300And so, and that, ladies and gentlemen, number five is the one that destroys this audience financially, economically, all of it.
00:22:13.160Also, it destroys the social cohesion of the nation.
00:22:16.900So, Steve Cortez, since you've warned about this for years, your thoughts, and this is why I think you're going to see a massive pivot of President Trump with all the stuff going on in the world and trying to solve all these problems, the economic war by the Chinese, the Zelensky, you know, the Bloodlands War, the Middle East War, to try to solve it all.
00:22:33.720So, he is going to do a massive pivot domestically, and that's where I'm going to play the trailer of your coming documentary in the next segment.
00:22:43.240Your thoughts on basically what the economist says and the five different alternatives, sir?
00:22:49.000Sure. Well, first, I'm glad to see that the economist is finally waking up to the reality that the rules-based international order, right, which they constantly laud, is economically a farce.
00:23:02.800It clearly does not work, has not worked for regular people, and now puts the entire world, including the United States, into a deep debt crisis.
00:23:10.400Of their five scenarios or, you know, quasi-solutions, here's the thing.
00:23:14.500If we don't do the first three, inevitably, we are going to the latter two, number four and five, meaning both defaults as well as massive inflation.
00:23:23.400Unfortunately, a lot of smart financial markets, particularly gold and crypto, I would also say real estate right now, they're betting on number five.
00:23:31.940So, a lot of very smart money is saying inflation is persistent, it's sticky, it's systemic, not transitory, that's for sure, and here to stay.
00:23:40.100Hence, gold at $4,400, hence housing that's totally unaffordable in the United States.
00:23:45.160But here's the good news, is if we pursue all of the first three at once, concurrently, cut spending.
00:23:50.860I believe we can cut on defense, and by the way, related to what we're going to talk about on Maha, we get a lot healthier, we can spend a lot less on health care.
00:23:58.080That's how we achieve, number one, don't make war all over the world, get our people healthier at home.
00:24:03.900Number two, this pro-growth strategy is starting to work.
00:24:20.640But that path gets narrower and narrower every day that we don't care as a country and that Washington, D.C., as a city and as an institution, permanent Washington, doesn't care about this.
00:24:30.960So, for once, I really agree with the economists.
00:24:33.340I do agree with them on the gravity of the situation right now.
00:24:38.460And I agree with them that those are the only real plausible outcomes.
00:24:42.060But the way to avoid four and five is to, in fact, those first things, and including, by the way, number three, which we're not doing, which is that we should be taxing the ultra-wealthy at a much, much higher level.
00:24:53.180We should be closing the carried interest loophole.
00:24:55.380Not only does it make sense economically, but it would also pay great political dividends.
00:25:00.020I wish we'd done it last year, but it's not too late to do that during this Trump term.
00:25:05.140The wealthy need to pay a higher share, especially the super wealthy.
00:25:09.500It's an economic imperative, and it will also reap political benefits.
00:25:16.560I want to, real quickly, because they also say, too, that in the inflationary environment, gold, crypto, but particularly real estate, because bondholders and holders of, obviously, of cash, but holders of financial instruments will be hit, particularly with a fixed income, will be hit.
00:25:34.620But the real estate holdings will be potentially the exact opposite.
00:25:53.620On top of that, because of unfortunate regulations, you know, onerous zoning all over the country, a lot of hindrances, it's very hard to develop land, right, to build on land.
00:26:03.440So, limited supply of land, very difficult to add additional housing, additional apartments in the United States.
00:26:09.300And so, because of that, in an inflationary environment and where capital is betting that the route out from $37 trillion of debt is inflationary, those kinds of tangible, limited supply or finite supply assets become incredibly valuable.
00:26:26.200Now, this is great for people who own a lot of assets, which gets back again to that number three solution of we need to tax the ultra-rich at a higher rate.
00:26:34.000They're the ones who benefited from the run-up of this debt.
00:26:36.320They need to pay the consequences of getting us out of it.
00:26:39.140But those kinds of folks are making bets that gold, crypto, and land, those are the main investment vehicles, those are going to benefit from this inflationary environment.
00:26:49.080And so far, they've been correct, right?
00:27:20.240If we're not adventurous all over the world, if we're not supporting corrupt dictators like Zelensky, and if we get healthier as a nation, spend less on health care.
00:27:36.180Your comments on gold, and particularly with this headline in the Financial Times of London, as we told you this was going to happen,
00:27:42.160they're dead broke, and so they're going to steal the Russian people's money to give to Zelensky to buy arms to go destroy the Russian people.
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00:33:48.500I purposefully filmed there, ahead of these upcoming Virginia votes that we're going to see.
00:33:53.640And there happens to be a lot of national leaders in the Commonwealth of Virginia, in your home state, Steve, who are doing this right, who believe in regenerative farming,
00:34:02.680who believe in health care that tries to prevent disease, and once disease does occur, to cure disease, not to simply manage chronic illness.
00:34:11.300Moms who want their children to be healthier, to live vital lives.
00:34:15.220We spend more than any country in the world on health care, and yet we're getting the worst results of any advanced nation.
00:34:21.040Now, I'm not a doctor, but the bond trader in me says, when you're spending record amounts, both for your own country and relative to the rest of the world, peer countries,
00:34:29.900and you're getting the worst results, then you have the wrong policies in place.
00:34:34.880And most of those wrong policies are coming because of the successful lobbying efforts of Big Food and Big Pharma.
00:34:42.100Big Food wants the inputs to poison our bodies, ultra-processed foods, which are great for them, but terrible for our health.
00:34:48.920And then, once chronic disease inevitably shows up, rather than curing it, Big Pharma is very happy to manage your sickness.
00:34:56.740They want you alive for a long time, but not thriving.
00:35:00.500And you are a customer for life, then, of both Big Food as well as Big Pharma, and both of those industries have enormous power in Washington, D.C.
00:35:09.440But now, with this populist revolt, with this populist electoral revolt, we have the power to reverse this.
00:35:16.420And RFK is taking the lead, but he's got an incredible team.
00:35:20.040People like Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, somebody I've just admired for years.
00:35:23.280He was the foremost critic, or one of the foremost critics, of the public health authorities from the outside during the COVID panic and during the Biden years.
00:35:31.580He is now, on the inside, helping to run and reform the public health authorities in this country.
00:35:37.120That alone is just an incredible accomplishment of President Trump and of our movement.
00:35:42.020And it's a great, great first step, but a lot more to come.
00:35:45.880These victories right now are incremental.
00:35:48.140We want these victories to become exponential, and they will.
00:35:51.320And again, not only will it make us better as a country, healthier and happier, but it's going to save us economically.
00:35:57.800We simply can't afford the trajectory that we're on in terms of health care spending.
00:36:01.580So for both moral and spiritual reasons, for the physical vitality of our country, and then additionally, because of the economic necessity, we've got to enact the Maha Agenda.
00:36:12.820When you say enact the Maha Agenda, let's talk about political, the physics of modern American empire politics, totally tied to money.
00:36:24.940In this city, in the imperial capital, big tech, the oligarchs, the corporatists, the arms industry, all of them, and it's more concentration of power than ever, pale in comparison to the lethal nature of big pharma.
00:36:41.540Big pharma owns both political parties.
00:36:43.740You see the efforts we're trying to make to get commercials taken off like every other nation in the world, except for New Zealand and ourselves, which would put MSNBC permanently at it, make it a test pattern permanently.
00:36:56.720How do you, how do you face that reality?
00:37:00.160Yes, you've got this, this is why almost everything President Trump is doing is really incorporated into, into executive orders.
00:37:08.400Or if he has to get something done, they got to slide it into a big, beautiful bill where the House basically and the Senate got to, just got to suck on it to get, you know, to get their tax cuts passed.
00:37:19.120The reality is big pharma, big pharma has a grip on this city and they ain't going to let that grip go.
00:37:25.340They got every lobbyist, every law firm, every crisis communications person, all the law, you know, everybody.
00:37:45.640But to me, the first step, the lowest hurdle to get over, it's still a hurdle, but the one that we can get over the quickest, I believe, is what you mentioned, which is banning pharmaceutical advertising.
00:37:54.780We used to in this country for a long time.
00:37:57.100Most of the world does right now for very valid reasons.
00:38:00.440And it's not only because we don't want the marketing machine of big pharma as well as some of the marketing machines of big food to convince people to live healthy lifestyles and to use products they may not really need.
00:38:11.920But more than that is their control over the news media in this country.
00:38:29.840As you know, things that at one point in time seem insurmountable with enough selling, with enough persuasion of the public, right, we can create the kind of populist revolt that resulted in Trump winning back in 2016, that can result in RFK and Bobby prevailing now in 2025 and beyond.
00:38:51.200And, by the way, not just big pharma, big food as well.
00:38:53.500Michael Caputo, who, of course, has been on your show a lot, he said during my interview with him, he said, you want to see a powerful lobbyist?
00:39:26.700No, the future costs are insurmountable.
00:39:29.960So, with all the redistricting, with the getting rid of the racial gerrymandering, if we put together and hammer a greater alliance and even a more robust alliance between MAGA, the populist nationalists in MAGA, the Make America Healthy Again, and the parental rights movement, it's unbeatable.
00:41:03.320And folks, I think I can say pretty definitively now that the whole difference between the great grassroots movement down there and the MAGA movement down there and the political class is – plus new focus not just by source, but there's mass amounts of investment going in down there from overseas, particularly I think at the Gulf Emirates with the Muslim community there.
00:41:32.040Texas is going to be a battleground state, and we have to embrace that.
00:41:47.440But on other policies in the House, I think we've got to get very serious of considering Texas and the effort's got to be put into Texas.
00:41:54.540I want to thank Patriot Mobile, Glenn Sturian's team, just monumental.
00:41:59.260This afternoon, I think I'm going to have time to show – you know, we were down for Lee Wamsgans and had a rally for her, which was incredible.
00:42:07.600I want to thank her for coming from Saturday, but also I had her on the show for a couple of days.
00:42:20.600And Macau, you have to understand, is not just one of the money laundering capitals of the world, but it's one of the sex trafficking capitals of the world because of the 450 million abortions that have been done to the Chinese force abortions on the Chinese people on Lao Baixing by the Chinese Communist Party.
00:42:34.940Eighty percent of those, I think, are for little girls.
00:42:37.860They have a huge mismatch for the first time in history in a major population, and the sex trafficking is huge.
00:42:43.500The guy taking that money is basically $9 million, is the one attacking her viciously for being a – wait for it – Christian.
00:42:51.880We'll get into more of that this afternoon.
00:45:46.880Enough Hispanic citizens, African-Americans that have been abused by Wall Street and corporate America because of this, of letting in these illegal aliens.
00:45:55.040It's got to stop or you're not going to have a country just like in the middle class with these STEM workers, with these H-1B scams.
00:46:03.940All the H-1B people that have visas have to go home and those jobs have to be opened up to American citizens because they've never shown one billet of the millions that are here, one billet that an American either didn't have the education or the job experience because it's a scam to cut costs, to basically pay indentured servants one third of what they have to pay American citizens.
00:46:28.160I understand President Trump's trying to juggle so much and trying to balance so much and working with them on the rare earths.
00:46:33.520But if we're going to start decoupling, let's just send them home and let those billets at those universities, particularly in these technical areas, go to, wait for it, American citizens.
00:47:21.660They're – the generations that have been here, fought for this country, been Burke's little platoons, have built this country, have coached Little League and built the churches and go to the Kiwanis Club and do all those social events that bind a community together, provide the infrastructure of the community.
00:47:40.500To build the society of that – we're more than an economy, and we're particularly more than a corporatist economy.
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00:52:01.000Also, at a press conference we'll talk about this afternoon, Jared Kushner, J.D. Vance, said there's not going to be any boots on the ground in Gaza or Israel by United States troops.
00:52:14.780We'll break it all down for you when we are back for the late afternoon early edition of The War Room.