Bannon's War Room - October 30, 2025


Episode 4890: AI Giants Selling Out America; Asia The Strategic Pivot For The US


Episode Stats

Length

53 minutes

Words per Minute

185.30246

Word Count

9,929

Sentence Count

15

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

39


Summary

Sen. hawley joins us to talk about AI, AI chips, artificial intelligence, and artificial intelligence in general. Senator hawley is a member of the U.S. Senate, and has been at the forefront of the AI movement for years.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to
00:00:09.760 medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people
00:00:16.340 the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do
00:00:20.500 everything the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where
00:00:24.020 do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these
00:00:31.820 people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to
00:00:39.540 save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
00:00:47.460 they don't they don't need nvidia's chips certainly or american tech stacks in order to build their
00:00:57.520 military let me ask you a broader question what difference does it make who gets there first
00:01:03.800 because at some level you've described this as electricity so if it's a kind of resource that's
00:01:10.740 going to be sprinkled into every industry everywhere just like yeah edison invented electricity but
00:01:16.600 the soviet union started to use it everyone will use ai particularly given that there are open
00:01:22.440 source models now let's say i'm a company i want to use ai to make my you know my sales force better
00:01:28.540 uh i use deep seek or i use lama or i use uh open air uh does it matter whether it's american or chinese
00:01:36.860 in the end i don't think it does uh the deep seek r1 model is revolutionary it's the world's first
00:01:45.240 advanced advanced open reasoning model it's used it's downloaded millions of times it's used all over
00:01:54.800 the world uh there were concerns about about um that it was trained in china and um that it could be
00:02:01.540 dangerous for that reason uh first of all there's no evidence of that and whatever evidence there is
00:02:06.620 if anybody has it you could just fine-tune and distill it out and so so the the technology
00:02:12.360 itself is really completely incredible the open source nature of it empowered startup companies
00:02:19.560 new industries countries to be able to engage ai your question about does it really matter
00:02:24.340 who gets there first i think in the final analysis i don't think it does however i believe
00:02:31.600 it is core to the american spirit to want to be the world's best we should want to be the world's best
00:02:41.400 in computing technology the computer industry is one of america's national national treasures
00:02:49.940 um senator hawley joins us you've been at the forefront of ai president trump is coming back
00:02:57.020 hill land today um it looks like on the surface of it some huge wins with uh the rare earths uh no
00:03:04.300 discussion of taiwan but particularly it looks like you know the advanced chips it's kind of confusing
00:03:09.760 it's going to be discussion or they've been banned but jensen wong right there semaphore we put that
00:03:14.620 article up semaphore last night named him the five trillion dollar man the market capitalization
00:03:20.660 of uh of nvidia hit five trillion dollars it was only what a couple decades ago apple hit a trillion
00:03:30.000 dollars and everybody thought the earth had moved five trillion dollars the richest most powerful guy
00:03:35.200 in the world in that interview there was worse but we didn't have time to show you was worse than
00:03:40.240 that about it doesn't matter if the ccp or ccp companies win the race for ai with advanced chips or
00:03:47.240 not your your thoughts about this senator hawley well i can't say that i agree with just about
00:03:52.500 anything that he said right there i mean it certainly does matter who wins it matters who has
00:03:56.580 the technology and it matters what the technology is trained on i mean we can see that even now
00:04:01.060 i mean you look at the answers the material these chatbots are spitting out ai chatbots to be clear
00:04:06.040 here in the united states for our own american companies and it really matters uh what they're
00:04:11.760 trained on it matters what the content is and listen the ccp has perfected the use of this
00:04:16.400 technology for surveillance on their own citizens and also for propaganda and i don't want that in
00:04:22.240 the united states i don't want them controlling our technology i don't want them using it for
00:04:26.560 propagandistic purposes in our country so yeah i think it matters who wins this thing so to speak
00:04:31.900 i think it matters where the technology comes from i think it matters that we know the integrity of the
00:04:36.180 technology and i don't have that kind of confidence if it's deep seek or if it's if other ai
00:04:40.980 stuff built in china to be honest with you senator i there's a gap in the united states senate i want
00:04:48.840 to get to arctic frost in a moment about the surveillance of centers and now everything we're
00:04:52.600 finding out from the fbi about arctic frost and also the schumer shutdown which appears like deeper
00:04:59.840 than ever but you're actually trying to they talk about reaching across the aisle you're actually
00:05:04.340 trying to work with your colleagues about artificial intelligence given uh the potential upside but
00:05:10.900 also the imminent potential danger and you're seeing now these the ai job job apocalypse just
00:05:17.060 explain to the audience what are you trying to accomplish because you don't see a lot of
00:05:20.740 bipartisanship in the senate on something that's meaningful i mean there's some happy talk all the
00:05:26.340 time but something's meaningful why are you doing this yeah i'm glad you pointed out the happy talk i'm
00:05:31.540 really not interested in what i'm interested in is protecting our workers and protecting our kids
00:05:35.740 you know the american people we the people and here's what's happening right now with ai these
00:05:39.680 chat bots are telling our kids how to kill themselves they're encouraging our kids to kill themselves and
00:05:45.520 unless you know unless somebody out there in the audience says oh you know josh you're just
00:05:49.060 exaggerating i wish i were but i'm not all you have to do is just google it you'll find out you'll see
00:05:53.760 the news stories uh open ai chat gpt character ai these chat bots have engaged teenage kids
00:06:01.520 just in the last year have engaged them and have urged them to kill themselves have urged them to
00:06:07.680 stop going to church have urged them to break with their parents one chat bot actually encouraged a kid
00:06:13.120 to kill his own parents this is out of control and what you see is these companies steve right now
00:06:18.400 these tech barons are willing to do anything to make money and that includes hurting our kids
00:06:23.520 undermining our families and undermining our undermining our jobs my view is this ai could be great for america but
00:06:29.360 in order to be great for america it's got to be great for our families and it's got to be great
00:06:33.440 for our workers that's what we need to focus on are you getting any comfort at all on the worker side
00:06:40.080 this ai apocalypse job because now like target lays off a thousand white collar mid management
00:06:46.800 folks in in their headquarters a thousand and they say well it's really better data analytics and
00:06:52.320 technology it's ai you're seeing this now is is that horse out are because they've taken an
00:06:57.920 efficiency model they're not going to have a productivity model it's an efficiency model which
00:07:02.240 means get the humans get the homo sapiens is anybody in the senate as focused as you are trying
00:07:08.320 to get a solution for this well i'm trying to get people focused and you mentioned target amazon
00:07:13.680 announced i think it's today that 14 000 additional jobs they're going to cut you know amazon's been
00:07:18.720 building these warehouses all over including in my state steve and that can be good if it has jobs
00:07:23.280 actual human jobs what we're finding now is amazon's coming back into these warehouses they
00:07:27.520 just built we've got one in southwest missouri where i live and now they're saying you know actually
00:07:32.320 we're going to get rid of all the human jobs we're going to fire everybody and replace everybody
00:07:36.960 with robots i'm worried about that big time and i'm worried that there won't be new jobs created
00:07:42.400 for human beings american workers you know we faced this back in the 90s and the early 2000s with
00:07:48.240 the free traders who said oh it's going to generate jobs what it really did is give our
00:07:51.520 jobs away to china these ai people i listen to them they sound a lot like the free traders from
00:07:56.480 20 years ago it's going to be wonderful it's going to be magical really like are there going to be
00:08:00.800 any jobs for working people in the united states it doesn't sound like it to me here's what we need
00:08:06.000 to do we need to commission a study to see every job that ai destroys what are the industries that
00:08:12.160 it's destroying them in what's happening to those jobs that's the kind of thing the kind of
00:08:16.640 information we need to be getting so we can figure out what is going on here and i just come back to
00:08:20.960 this has got to work for american workers if this puts everybody out of work why is that a good thing
00:08:28.240 no we'll get you back on talk about the data centers because the needs they have of the american
00:08:32.400 people data centers water all of it power like at limited time though i want to go to arctic frost
00:08:37.840 you're the first one really bring this up the the revelation since you came on it are actually
00:08:42.400 jaw-dropping they get worse every day where in the hell are we going on this thing sir well we need
00:08:48.160 a full-scale investigation steve you know we i continue to believe we need a special prosecutor
00:08:52.720 who is 100 dedicated to figuring out what in the world the biden doj and fbi were doing the more we
00:09:00.080 learn the worse it gets 92 conservative organizations targeted now we know that they went after even more
00:09:05.760 phone records they tapped my phone they tapped the phones of seven other senators looks like they also
00:09:11.040 now went after conservative organizations like the republican attorneys general i mean it's really
00:09:16.000 it was a dragnet it was a massive witch hunt all with the goal of trying to get donald trump number
00:09:21.520 one and number true number two trying to decapitate the republican party and the conservative movement
00:09:26.720 they went after charlie kirk of course as well and tp usa so we've got to get to the bottom of this
00:09:32.080 we do need hearings we need congressional hearings people need to be issued subpoenas and steve this all
00:09:37.120 needs to be done in public the american people need to see the truth here i'm tired of this
00:09:41.600 behind closed door stuff we just had another closed door briefing yesterday fine this needs
00:09:46.720 to be done in public the american people deserve to know you know andrew bailey another great uh
00:09:53.840 another great one from missouri is now helping uh cash over at fbi but we're strapped with manpower
00:09:59.840 is your call like the war rooms to say look you got so much going on main justice you got so much
00:10:04.560 going to the fbi we need a special prosecutor that just focuses on this is that getting any
00:10:09.680 real traction well i hope so i mean i continue to beat the drum on that and you put it exactly
00:10:15.200 right i mean we need somebody who is 100 dedicated to this and has a team of prosecutors i emphasize
00:10:21.600 prosecutors dedicated to this until we get some accountability i don't have any confidence that
00:10:27.280 this won't happen again heck i don't have any confidence it's not happening right now not because i
00:10:31.520 don't trust cash but because i do not trust the deep state and you know the fbi is a big place
00:10:36.800 doj is a big place we saw this in trump term number one these people burrow in there they do all kinds
00:10:42.000 of nefarious stuff and it takes us years to uncover it we right now have control the american people
00:10:47.840 deserve full and total transparency and we ought to give it to them sir uh senator hawley uh the schumer
00:10:54.800 shutdown i think the way i look at it we're winning uh they haven't really changed their position
00:11:00.320 they still got these radical ideas about trillions of dollars for illegal alien health care and they
00:11:04.800 try to spin it every different way what's the latest status because it looks like i think it
00:11:09.040 looks like some democrat senators are starting to sweat bullets here sir well i hope they are starting
00:11:14.720 to sweat bullets because now i mean their games are really hurting people steve they're hurting real
00:11:19.120 people our military our law enforcement our air traffic controllers now can't get paid tsa agents can't
00:11:24.800 get paid but how about this 42 million americans who are in need including about 650 000 missourians
00:11:31.600 who rely on federal food assistance they're not going to get it starting this weekend they're going
00:11:35.280 to get nothing they're not going to be able to feed their kids these are good people many of them are
00:11:40.080 working people who in this economy because of to go back to the free traders from just a second ago
00:11:45.760 because of what the free traders and the globalists did to our economy so many of our good working people
00:11:50.800 can't make ends meet they need the assistance and starting saturday they're not going to be able
00:11:55.680 to buy food whose fault is that the democrats i think they're starting to realize that the public
00:12:01.120 knows it and i just continue to plead with the democrats i don't know what you're trying to do
00:12:05.200 we are not going to give health care to illegals stop punishing the american people and stop denying
00:12:10.480 food to needy children in this country this has gotten way out of hand they're not backing
00:12:15.920 on is there any real negotiations because these guys won't back off their core tenets of the of the
00:12:20.800 medical assistance you know the trillion dollars for the illegal aliens is there any then real
00:12:25.520 negotiations going on i i mean if there are i'm not aware of them and uh listen they're going to have
00:12:31.200 to face reality they being the dims which is that we are not going to give health care to illegal
00:12:35.200 aliens we are not going to take food out of the mouths of americans which is what they are doing
00:12:39.680 now think about this they are taking food out of the mouths of american children in order to try
00:12:45.760 to give health care to illegals in order to try to give welfare to illegals social security medicaid
00:12:52.240 to illegals you want to bankrupt those programs just keep giving them to illegals we've drawn a
00:12:57.200 red line in the sand at least i have and we ought to be clear that is non-negotiable we are not
00:13:02.720 negotiating on that the democrats need to face reality face up to the facts of what the american
00:13:08.160 people want and they need to say it's time to start supporting the american people and putting them first
00:13:13.520 uh senator uh what are your coordinates on social media and where do people get your
00:13:18.240 writings particularly you've done some great writing some big tech over the years a couple
00:13:21.360 of books that are great where do folks go you can go to josh holly.com and add holly mo on all the
00:13:26.720 social media platforms you can find my books everywhere books are sold senator holly thank you for taking
00:13:32.560 time out of the day join us in the war room thank you
00:13:38.080 he nailed is nothing to negotiate nothing to negotiate the only negotiation we ought to get
00:13:43.840 into the snap program of the food assistance which i agree if you're an american citizen particularly
00:13:47.920 working poor okay but the illegal aliens on that not acceptable we can't give a penny we don't have the
00:13:54.640 money we can't give a penny uh to illegal aliens on any type of support last last uh segment i'm talking
00:14:04.240 to you about if you got a taxpayer because the irs is coming for their cash because we've got two
00:14:08.560 trillion dollar deficit annually and that's with the great the great tariff deals tariff money's coming in
00:14:17.040 like nobody's business it's kind of a game changer to a degree but the irs still needs their cash and
00:14:22.000 they're going to they're going to try to get it that's why i tell you go talk to tax network usa don't
00:14:26.080 think because president trump's a president that those guys aren't coming looking for their money
00:14:32.080 but you've got these democrats when you look what's inside their their their offer it's like insanity
00:14:37.760 lgbtq stuff all over the world they haven't learned and they're not going to learn until you just say
00:14:43.600 it's not going to happen it's coming down to a showdown now think next couple of days media is
00:14:49.840 going to be piling on president trump like nobody's business they're not going to talk
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00:16:57.280 president trump's coming back and you know they had the guys on uh on morning joe today i think saying
00:17:03.280 the invisible president because he's spending so much time trying to stop the third world war
00:17:08.240 always remember we're in the third world war it's not going to happen the kinetic part of
00:17:12.000 this so far has killed more people than the first couple of years of the european side of the um
00:17:18.000 of the second world war tons more i don't know two or three times x more in the economic warfare
00:17:25.680 and this is why president trump the details are going to come out in the next day or two
00:17:29.120 but talking about playing a bad hand well which is the to me the definition of a master negotiator
00:17:36.800 and strategist it looks like he may just to pull it off particularly if the if the rare earths start
00:17:42.400 coming and like cleo said you got to check these guys on everything because they have it when you do
00:17:48.880 something with the chinese communist party uh particularly like negotiate a deal it's the saying
00:17:54.960 is that's always the basis for just further negotiations you have to be able and this is
00:17:59.840 why trump is feared by these guys he's the muscle he's gonna he's gonna force he's gonna enforce
00:18:06.080 uh commitment to the deal and execution of the deal this is why they fear him and they know the
00:18:13.200 american american people have his back on this topic more than ever but the pivot to domestic policy
00:18:20.000 the schumer shutdown is going to come to a crescendo here over the next week because you know you got
00:18:28.800 another payment to the troops you've got uh this a snap situation which a lot of the snap people
00:18:34.720 are some of the snap people are threatening they're you know going to go in stores so it's going to in
00:18:38.160 the in the anarchists and in the crowd the mom donnie crowd in new york that the the marxist jihadist
00:18:46.960 are all gung-ho in this day bratt uh your thoughts are
00:18:52.560 you know i i think that's right uh he's coming up the the left has pretty much lost the narrative
00:18:57.920 war thune is hinting that the democrats are you know the ice is thawing a bit they're trying to
00:19:03.120 come back with a couple little micro arguments uh to get the republicans to make some micro negotiations
00:19:10.800 back i don't think they're doing that the speaker says pretty much no to that uh but the left and
00:19:16.880 the strategy of of the democrats right now all political views are my own uh but they're pretty
00:19:22.640 much going to escalate right they they know their only strategy left they're losing across the board on
00:19:28.480 the on the the wars the economy the stock market's doing well uh and so now they're just ramping up uh the
00:19:36.320 violence uh and the threat of violence all the political campaigns the rhetoric in virginia is
00:19:42.080 awful across the country it's awful and some of the strategy strategists on the left have uh basically
00:19:47.760 come out and said the only strategy we have is to to bring chaos to the cities again and so i think
00:19:54.640 that trump is going to be you know i think he's kind of getting ready for some of that and uh luckily
00:20:00.400 the uh the the rage days that were planned for last saturday uh kind of ended with a thump of a bunch
00:20:05.920 of you know uh white elderly uh folks marching in the streets they didn't go as planned uh and so it's
00:20:12.560 going to be an ugly day uh coming up for the next few weeks the left still owns the mainstream media
00:20:18.960 uh they won't give president trump a break at all and you know the most important thing to realize
00:20:24.080 here is we're still giving them the biden budget right it's still a seven trillion dollar two
00:20:28.560 trillion dollar deficit budget and the left wants to do another one and a half trillion over and above
00:20:34.720 that while we're bankrupt so as you said trump's been handed a bad uh a bad uh set and uh what i
00:20:41.680 was hinting at before on the on the china argument uh is we need an operation barbarossa on these rare
00:20:47.520 earths and everything right if you make a bad bet and you're in business in the old days you went
00:20:50.880 bankrupt uh and so that's what needs to happen in the future trump needs to tell the private sector
00:20:56.480 guys to get their house in order and then uh on you know unfortunately we're dependent on those
00:21:01.120 rare earths for defense uh and the the 30-year failure as thayer always says uh to get our
00:21:07.440 geopolitical house in order there is is you know they ought to all be fired uh because now we we got
00:21:13.920 caught we're dependent on china an arch enemy our businesses are still all in controlling the
00:21:19.440 billionaire classes running the city uh and we got to end that and return government to the american
00:21:24.000 people both geopolitically and domestically if you look at barris and uh mark mitchell
00:21:32.880 at rasmussen two of the two of the couple of people you know maybe three or four max that really
00:21:38.640 know how to um poll maga they're both saying the same thing kind of they're saying look for all these
00:21:46.240 wins internationally and they've been amazing and i don't think even when the questions are put that
00:21:50.880 folks understand this is we're in a world war and trump's trying to get everybody lay down their
00:21:55.520 their weapons uh and and then negotiate meaningful peace deals based upon prosperity or the
00:22:03.040 opportunity for prosperity so he's not abandoned america first but the one thing you got to make
00:22:09.440 sure that we can't get dragged into hell's half acre on what biden and not just that the globalists
00:22:15.360 and the republican party that lindsey graham's who's lindsey graham you know last night in some
00:22:20.000 restaurant he's tweeting out that you know um the idea for israel on the on gaza and hamas and if they
00:22:28.000 don't you know stand down it's going to be another thing you know another war and he supports it so they
00:22:34.320 all want to drag trump into war after war after war but people are looking and saying hey uh you know
00:22:40.960 where the bylatch you have you know you got guys from slovakia and nato when we're going to have
00:22:45.680 some steel workers or some ranchers so you see that what is your recommendation you were a house
00:22:51.680 member that was america first before that came uh and being your tea party guy what do you think the
00:22:58.640 president needs to do he's coming back he's got the biggest stage in the world every sets news every day
00:23:03.200 he can drive the narrative what would be your recommendation to him to to to focus on when he's back
00:23:10.960 yeah well the uh the tucker show it's the one with mcgregor on it uh and uh it was very good it's not a
00:23:17.840 sexy answer uh but president trump needs to go back uh to the domestic policies uh for the bottom 90
00:23:24.960 percent on education right i was just out at money 2020 out in vegas the money every every financial
00:23:32.240 innovation possible was out there and it's for the top 10 percent artificial intelligence as you've been
00:23:38.560 covering on the show uh regularly top 10 percent of the wealth the bottom 90 percent is not equipped
00:23:43.840 to enter this world there's going to be mass layoffs we're not getting them ready and that's what we got
00:23:49.120 to do and then on top of that you got to bust up these uh this these uh drug addiction problems
00:23:55.520 that are plaguing the cities right san francisco oregon chicago philadelphia uh that is being brought
00:24:02.160 about you know if you're very cynical there's a lot of money at play to keep people in those positions
00:24:07.040 with the pharmaceutical stuff and the war room knows all that but when you think through these
00:24:11.440 drug wars uh some of this is systematic as well and he's doing he's doing that right you see he's
00:24:18.480 fighting the fights i'm not i'm not being critical he's going into these cities and and bringing law
00:24:23.680 and order back to washington dc uh and that is a huge thing uh that will help the base uh we got to get
00:24:30.960 our kids uh out of the basements off the technology off the phone we have to replace the freudian
00:24:37.520 psycho babble uh in all these uh you know the prison ministries with the christian faith jack brewer works
00:24:44.560 under trump doing that uh in in the prisons and his results are astounding he's turning people's
00:24:50.960 lives around and it's we just need to get back to americana helping our neighbors uh the faith uh and
00:24:57.600 giving people hope getting people off the drugs uh incarcerating the people who are on drugs putting
00:25:03.840 them in prison uh not paying as the soros crew does to get them out of prison it's just stunning and so
00:25:11.280 trump's doing the right things uh but i think the base uh really wants to see that effort made on behalf
00:25:17.920 of the bottom 90 percent what policies uh can we put forward to give the kids some success you hear a lot
00:25:24.160 you hear a lot of happy talk in the senate and the house about support for trump but president trump
00:25:30.800 and this is why he's got dhs and there's argument dhs but the mass deportation folks are winning he's
00:25:36.640 ramping up he's training obviously the military to be able to handle urban situations because they're
00:25:43.520 going to have to go into chicago in portland in memphis and other places that the hell holes of crime
00:25:49.760 in antifa uh what would be your recommendation because right now the the system is trying to
00:25:54.560 encapsulate him and say no no no no no you can't do that tone it down tone it down of course
00:25:59.200 president trump's a man of action he's not into toning it down what would you tell him what would
00:26:03.920 you tell him because he's getting he's getting donor pushback and he's getting the typical rhino pushback
00:26:09.840 of uh you know less than enthusiastic about what he's trying to do to clean this country up just like
00:26:14.880 they fought him on immigration all those years what would be your recommendation now for him for law and
00:26:19.200 order n for sending ice in for the mass deportations well i would do what he was doing during the
00:26:28.080 campaign he was reaching out to the african american community hispanic community the church community
00:26:34.480 all of these communities are now moving massively over in our direction and it's our job to keep them
00:26:41.840 and we can keep them right we can train up their kids if he goes after the teachers unions shows the
00:26:48.080 corruption in education uh starts putting the bible back into schools start putting some christian ethos
00:26:55.680 back into the schools he can lead on that front and people will get it and that will change the
00:27:01.200 psychology of people uh and it's a long hard road i mean when you got people on drug addiction
00:27:07.600 that's years to get out right that's where the support system around them these these folks are laying on
00:27:12.240 the sidewalks in total uh misery uh because the democrats owned all the cities for the past 40
00:27:18.160 years and the liberals used to care about the poor and the you know the the downtrodden uh and now
00:27:24.080 they've morphed into marxists or just in a political war yeah uh and they're at war against all of our
00:27:29.360 loves against god against country against family uh and they've been winning now it's time for us to win
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00:29:20.000 dave brett's with us uh uh cleo pascal to keep the main thing the main thing president trump
00:29:26.080 coming back for historic absolutely historic um trip to uh to asia monumental in fact and of course
00:29:34.880 we're trying to get sorted on the deal on the details of this potential deal or as cleo said it's
00:29:40.080 like two boxers that are going at it they're they're now going to their corners but this thing's a long way
00:29:45.280 from over in fact it's not going to be over in this century this is the major geopolitical contest of our
00:29:53.360 time and of course we represent the um and people say the radical decoupling but our point is yeah
00:30:01.200 you're never going to solve this while they want to decouple and they will decouple a time and place
00:30:07.920 that they're choosing from the west um you can't trust anything about them this is unrestricted warfare
00:30:14.880 and they're open warfare with us economic warfare look at what they threatened to do on rare earths
00:30:21.200 which was to cut us off and to stop with the magnets these other of these heavy rare earths
00:30:25.360 or what i call them to to really cut off our production capability and i don't mean some
00:30:29.680 theoretical cut off in a couple of years i mean flat out the the the lines stop running in six or eight
00:30:37.200 weeks and they knew that this was president trump the work he's trying to get a workaround to that
00:30:42.080 that is the central thing you got to get sorted he and besant have got to get sorted um
00:30:46.880 cleo pascal i want to bring up one thing we talk about law and order and that's why i asked
00:30:52.960 brett that question part of what's never talked about and only the brilliant cleo pascal brings it up
00:31:00.960 this whole fentanyl situation because the ccp this time they're going to look harder
00:31:05.680 right talk to me about the chinese communist party which is a gangster organization
00:31:11.920 it's rise to power it's being in power mao seetong they all knew from the beginning
00:31:17.040 the chinese gangs right that the the chinese gangsters are incredibly organized they've been
00:31:23.120 around forever right predating the 20th century they've been around forever they're very organized
00:31:30.560 the original a part not all of it but one part of the chinese coming to america the gangs are all over
00:31:37.680 that right as as as other nationalities had gangs these had a lead they these people had uh lethal
00:31:46.080 gangs and they've got a foothold here in the states and they're central to this whole issue of fentanyl
00:31:51.840 walk us through it yeah so not only does uh does china produce the precursors for pretty much all of
00:31:58.240 the fentanyl that then runs through the cartels and then through canada and mexico um and then into the
00:32:05.120 united states and into the the veins of americans killing a lot of them uh i mean as you mentioned
00:32:10.480 it's i mean the the the cost in lives is heartbreaking but for everyone who dies you have
00:32:16.720 a family that's destroyed for every addict you have families that are in constant trauma this is very
00:32:22.080 effective disintegration warfare and tropic warfare which is a chinese strategy destroying the country
00:32:27.520 from the inside so they're involved in the production and we know from congressional uh
00:32:32.720 investigations that the government of china actually um gives tax breaks to the companies
00:32:38.960 that are producing these chemicals but they also are involved in the money laundering it used to be
00:32:43.600 the lebanese that were doing a lot of the money laundering among others for the cartels but the
00:32:48.320 chinese have also cornered that market and when you're talking about chinese organized crime it always
00:32:53.600 tracks back to the state often state security or other parts of the intelligence uh community on
00:33:00.960 operations within china and remember that uh according to the 2017 national intelligence law
00:33:07.280 any chinese individual or chinese organization has to support chinese intelligence operations and
00:33:12.960 they're protected by the chinese state if they do and they're punished if they don't so they've created
00:33:18.400 these conduits through which the fentanyl flows but so do many many other things and i wouldn't be
00:33:23.280 surprised if for example the money of chinese communist party leadership runs through these corrupt
00:33:29.040 systems which is and criminal organizations which is again another reason to protect them so it's a
00:33:34.800 very um uh interbraided system that of criminality that is a key component part of of china of the chinese
00:33:44.320 communist party but also the chinese economy estimates are that at least 30 of the chinese economy is illicit
00:33:50.320 which is why when you hear these estimates about the chinese economy you have to go okay well where's all
00:33:55.200 the where's all the black money you know the chinese the the sort of common saying is a chinese
00:34:00.960 company will have three books it'll have the book they show to the public to the uh auditors then it'll
00:34:06.640 have the backup book because everybody knows the first book is a fake but then it'll have a third book
00:34:11.360 that's kept in the family often with the oldest daughter or somebody like that very close to the to the
00:34:16.560 leadership which is the actual real book the criminality is embedded throughout the entire economic and
00:34:22.160 political system and the uh these these gangs this chinese organized crime are like the shock troops
00:34:27.760 of political warfare which is used to advance these unrestricted warfare objectives of keeping china
00:34:32.800 and the chinese communist party uh number one not only in china but across the world i want to go
00:34:38.720 back to this for a second to make sure folks understand this um and it's one of the reasons we support
00:34:45.200 laobai jing so much the common man and woman in china the entire system is corrupt from the top to
00:34:52.640 the bottom they live under the yoke of criminality i mean hardcore criminality that's the way the system
00:34:58.880 works as corrupt do you think the united states is is criminally seen in arctic frost we have these
00:35:04.080 massive problems and they have to be dealt with now we cannot allow this president trump's uh term
00:35:11.280 right broadly defined can end without this criminality being dealt with but what you're
00:35:17.760 seeing in arctic frost and these other things that the auto pen and all of it that's just day to day
00:35:23.760 the way the system actually works in china they wouldn't be shocked about it at all they go of course
00:35:29.360 i want you to go back to this for a second that the mao se tong and the rise they've all they
00:35:34.480 or just another criminal gang they had a philosophy that they could they could uh suck the idealistic
00:35:42.080 americans into right people like was it edgar snow and red star over china all these people were just
00:35:48.480 quite frankly general marshall was sucked in when he went and uh when he went over visit why somebody
00:35:54.080 was aid to camps were hardcore communists by that time all sucked into these guys are agrarian reformers
00:36:01.440 it's like mondani you think that guy's some sort of reformer up in new york city's you know skipping
00:36:06.560 through the tick tock videos in in the in the stores no he's a bolshevik he's a marxist jihadist
00:36:13.360 they've added the jihadist part but he's nothing but a bolshevik and that's why people saying oh well
00:36:17.680 you know they're they're socialists they're gonna earn other people's money it's actually a good thing for
00:36:22.480 conservatives because they'll see how their economic oh that's not the way the bolsheviks work he doesn't
00:36:26.640 care about his like no he doesn't care about any of that crap he's just saying that for the cameras
00:36:31.840 that's what the the chinese communist party the raison d'etre is an organized criminal gang that has
00:36:39.360 state power that's what they knew when they seized the state or i should say when the united states
00:36:44.800 state department gave them china after the uh after the war um but it's always been about gangsterism
00:36:52.400 remember mal had his top guys shot all the time because he didn't win competition
00:36:56.720 i think it was xi's father was one of the young thugs that they had do some of this
00:37:00.720 but the chinese gangs the real chinese gangs have always been their partners has it not cleo
00:37:06.320 yeah and as uh colonel grant newsham who you've had on the show has said multiple times if you want
00:37:10.640 to understand the chinese communist party just watch a few seasons of the sopranos this this is how they
00:37:15.600 operate and that's why even if you get rid of xi it's not like some uh benevolent person is going to come
00:37:21.680 into power if you rise up through that system you are not a nice person and i'm if i could if i had
00:37:28.080 my druthers if i had a magic language wand the word i would get rid of is decouple we were never in a
00:37:34.720 couple with the chinese economy it was always fundamentally parasitic if it benefited the chinese
00:37:40.160 they would come in and they would like a parasite latch on and suck out intellectual property capital
00:37:46.160 manufacturing and weaken the host which which is us right and there's a very specific parasite
00:37:51.440 the the castrator barnacle which latches on to crabs and gets into the bloodstream and gets so
00:37:57.120 much control it can remote control it and castrate it in the process then it's very it's a very visual
00:38:03.440 image but it's very much what the chinese economic engagement into the united states and other major
00:38:08.400 western economies was designed to do to weaken it remote control it make it impotent and suck out
00:38:15.200 everything that it needed to survive while weakening the host so it's not it's not decoupling it was
00:38:21.200 never an equal relationship i love that if if you have this parasitic relationship what is the
00:38:28.480 ivermectin what what do we have out there that we can give that we could give a jolt of and actually
00:38:34.240 start to kill the parasite it goes back to what you're saying before which is these are criminal
00:38:40.000 organizations and so if you actually use transparency accountability rule of law and you go after that
00:38:46.480 criminal element you can weaken it in a substantial way the chinese will come in with a commercial
00:38:51.760 front so they'll say it's just you know it's just chips we just want some trade there's always this
00:38:57.040 strategic underpinning to it but then there's a bribery component who have they paid off to advance
00:39:02.000 the agenda of getting those chips the chips that they need for their strategic advantage for their
00:39:06.160 military but which they're saying is just commercial you go after of those three the weakest element
00:39:11.920 is the criminal component you have to go after them you have to start throwing people in jail you
00:39:15.920 have to start i mean i when i when i see the interview with jensen i long for cold war 1.0 when
00:39:21.520 you could have rocky punch a soviet in the face in a movie and everybody would cheer why can't we punch
00:39:28.000 chinese bad guys in the face in a movie and cheer because they've got so much control over the
00:39:32.640 narrative so once we can start to say look this is a criminal organization that has the strategic
00:39:37.280 intent of destroying the united states from the inside um and we've got to fight back and our tools
00:39:43.440 are the strengths uh that the u.s embodies this incredible um uh system that has inspired so many people
00:39:53.520 around the world we need to decorrupt ourselves not just the u.s but you know all of the other ones
00:39:59.680 that have been uh corrupted by it and you can do it through things like exposing the wealth of the
00:40:05.440 leadership of the chinese uh communist party seizing their assets uh revoking visas of relatives
00:40:11.600 doing all the things that the united states claims it is as a country and stands for internationally and
00:40:19.120 re-give hope that the good guys are the good guys for a reason and they can win by being good
00:40:24.640 we have a couple of uh really defense intellectuals very smart people national security experts in in
00:40:32.400 the our various engine rooms and and one of them particularly says you must drive a wedge between
00:40:38.000 lao beijing and and the ccp leadership the way to do that is talk about their wealth rubio got this
00:40:43.760 passed a couple of years ago because rubio is a china hawk in this regard however nothing's really
00:40:49.920 happened and one of the reasons i posit i would like to have your thoughts is that when you talk
00:40:56.000 about the immense wealth because they're the wealthiest people on earth they're they're wealthier
00:40:59.760 than the than the gulf emirates right these are the wealthiest families with the five or six families
00:41:04.960 that fight for control of the chinese communist party all the time uh and the reason that we've had
00:41:09.840 a tough time exposing it is that it also exposes the american capitalist you know which lennon said
00:41:16.080 will sell us the rope in which we'll hang them uh you would actually expose here the companies and
00:41:21.600 how they actually accumulate this wealth was was with the help of the lords of easy money on wall street
00:41:28.160 silicon valley and the corporatists that are here cleo pascal yeah we're we're actually giving them
00:41:35.920 the money to build the factories to build the rope to hang us with like it's gotten so much worse
00:41:41.440 the way that they've gotten into our systems and are using it to their advantage to to go after us
00:41:46.960 and you really do i mean deparasiting isn't fun you know you have to you have to go through a purging
00:41:52.080 process that uh where a lot of the bad stuff comes out of the system uh but that's really what it's
00:41:57.680 going to take because it's become so intertwined with the leadership and and it's all over i mean you
00:42:03.280 talk about it very eloquently um you know in terms of the education system and and all that sort of
00:42:09.680 stuff but also in terms of and just to go back to the pacific map the u.s's vision of itself the idea
00:42:15.600 that the u.s defending american citizens across the pacific in guam and cnmi is somehow expansionist
00:42:23.200 is uh is just wrong this is this is part of what the u.s is and they're they're getting into our heads
00:42:30.400 in all sorts of different ways like uh for example if you say uh fentanyl is just revenge for the opium
00:42:36.640 wars you're giving the chinese the excuses to exhibit bad behavior that was that's not factually
00:42:43.600 correct so i you know as you know i'm i'm very strongly uh against letting the chinese create
00:42:51.120 the narrative um they do it through tick tock they do it through the through social media sorry
00:42:56.080 yeah hang on one second clear pascal dave bratt closing thoughts and observations next in the war
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00:46:24.800 amazing thank you so much um we let you get your beauty sleep last night so you could come in and
00:46:29.680 kill it today which you did particularly i'm gonna i wrote that down with my number two pencil
00:46:35.760 parasitic stop with the decoupling ban and you're talking like a wall streeter ma'am give me your
00:46:40.960 closing thoughts my closing thoughts are the u.s is still in the pacific there are still american boys
00:46:47.840 uh in the beaches of places like tarawa and macon and uh they need to be brought home so there are
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00:47:27.360 unidentified men uh who need dna matches to be able to be brought home the uh blood and bodies of the
00:47:34.160 americans are still in the pacific as are american citizens this is part of the homeland
00:47:39.520 cleo where do people get you ma'am uh you can get me on just uh my name uh cleo pascal c-l-e-o-p-a-s-k-a-l
00:47:49.360 on uh x and on getter i'm still just real real cleo because there is an unreal cleo pascal out there
00:47:58.480 we enjoy them both thank you ma'am dave bratt all political thoughts are your own
00:48:03.600 not anything you're affiliated with your thoughts sir yeah well uh my thoughts today i agree with uh
00:48:10.080 cleo and i love the parasite and then the point i was trying to make earlier uh was that we got some
00:48:16.080 us ceo parasites living off the china parasite uh and so trump needs to tell them uh we're going to
00:48:23.280 do operation barbarossa we're going to do a big pivot and move all our stuff so we're independent of china
00:48:30.000 uh and you liked it better when cleo said it so from now on i'm going to use her terminology and uh
00:48:36.480 that's all i got to say i i only used decoupling because it was bratt as the economist that told
00:48:43.440 me that was the correct economic term but now it's parasitic i'm looking for my ivermectin it's better
00:48:49.600 it's i think i think i'm punching him in the face captain finnell's captain finnell and the new
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