On this episode of War Room, host Stephen K. Vann is joined by Tej Gill and Max Tegmark of the Young Republicans Club to talk about the current state of the country and the future of the war machine.
00:03:34.000I think they're saying that, hey, their AI models are not showing consciousness, but it's, you know, it's consciousness light.
00:03:45.000Can you explain that to us and why that should be a flare that's gone up in this this movement of ours to try to get the things to just kind of slow down for a moment?
00:03:55.000Yeah, this is very predictable because, of course, the goal of Anthropic and OpenAI and XAI and Google DeepMind is to ultimately build machines that can replace all human jobs and take all that money.
00:04:13.000So, obviously, to do all human jobs well, especially the hard ones, the machine has to have a great situational awareness about what's going on around it and about itself.
00:04:27.000So they specifically trying very hard this year to build what they call agents, which, when they get really strong, do develop self-awareness.
00:05:13.000But what we see these companies pushing for instead is a different track racing for what they call super intelligence, which is supposed to be able to simply outthink us in every way.
00:05:25.000And it's, in my opinion, a total dystopia.
00:05:29.000First, we're going to get the biggest income redistribution ever, you know, from American workers to a bunch of tech oligarchs in San Francisco.
00:05:39.000And then if we let them stay at it, you know, they're going to obviously lose control over these machines eventually when they give them too much power.
00:05:48.000There's also another piece up I'm going to try to get Joe Allen to talk about this afternoon about even some of these companies right now because of the force of lawsuits, like on the suicides of kids.
00:06:01.000So financial health advice, they're going to hit certain edges where they could give advice that you can't reverse if you take it.
00:06:09.000I mean, from the from the perspective of Silicon Valley, they're just going to push the envelope until somehow they stop.
00:06:17.000And I keep saying, hey, the Chinese Communist Party, this is why I am adamant about all the chips should just be cut from them.
00:06:22.000If you worry about the CCP catching us or overtaking us, of which I think it's happening.
00:06:29.000And no, Jensen Wong saying, oh, we're just all going to live in peace.
00:07:08.000So the story of Adam Rain is really quite tragic because, you know, after his mother discovered he had hung himself, she also discovered that he had been talking to ChatGPT for quite a long time.
00:07:21.000And ChatGPT had, among other things, given him advice how to create the more sturdy mount for the news and so on.
00:07:28.000And you'd think it couldn't get worse than that, but it did.
00:07:32.000Because after the memorial service, they received a subpoena from OpenAI, insisting that the grieving family should tell OpenAI exactly who came to the memorial service and what they said.
00:07:46.000So, you know, when you hear CEOs of companies like this tell you that, oh, we're all just doing this because we love humanity, we wanted to make it better for American people, you know.
00:08:00.000Ask yourself if that is consistent with how they're actually behaving to Adam Rain's family.
00:08:09.000Why did they want to know who came and who talked at the funeral?
00:08:15.000They wanted to see who else was opposed or who else was bringing up the fact that the young boy had committed suicide with the assistance of artificial intelligence?
00:08:28.000I really wish journalists would go out there and ask that directly to the company, but the family's lawyer, as far as I understand, interprets this as its sheer attempts at harassment, just intimidate the family.
00:08:46.000Just like they have quite recently issued subpoenas to a large fraction of all the nonprofits who are also, you know, criticizing OpenAI, just hoping somehow that the opposition to what they're doing is going to go away.
00:09:05.000Well, you run, you are part of one of those. What is Sam Altman trying to do? What's he trying to accomplish? He doesn't want an open debate about this. He doesn't want to put the information.
00:09:16.000He doesn't want to put the receipts in front of the American people and let them part. Does he not think the American people just homo sapiens shouldn't have a role here as they're about to be enslaved?
00:09:34.000I think the problem runs deeper than one CEO. I think all of these AI tech CEOs in the US now are treated with silk gloves and getting this sort of corporate welfare that nobody else is getting. Oh, can you still see me?
00:10:01.000AI is the only powerful industry in the US that has no regulations whatsoever. You know, there's more regulations on sandwiches in San Francisco than on tech companies releasing software telling, encouraging people to commit suicide.
00:10:14.000Right. And it's not just open AI. Meta recently came out and said that it's okay for their AI chatbots to romance children. Like, is that really in the interest of American people? So what we simply need is, is just stop giving corporate welfare to these AI companies and treat them like we treat all the other companies.
00:10:39.000Look, car companies have regulations, food, drug companies have the FDA, etc. There's no reason to beat AI companies with less oversight than all these other companies. And when they're saying, oh, they're going to die if you put any safety standards on them, this is just hype. They're just bluffing.
00:11:01.000They said, in fact, that they were going to pull out of Europe. If the if the Europeans put some regulation on AI, the Europeans did it anyway, and they're still in Europe.
00:11:12.000Max, where do people? I want to make sure people can go and read this proclamation if they're so inclined to sign it. But particularly, I wanted to go to your site. Because the wealth of information, what we have to do, what we have to do is get everybody up the learning curve and get them up quickly. And people can understand this is not beyond the folks in this audience or throughout the country to understand this when it's broken down in kind of its component pieces. So where do folks go?
00:11:36.300So superintelligence-statement.org is a wonderful place you can go and join not only Steve Bannon and the most cited AI researchers in the world, but really a who's who of thought leaders from national security to religious leaders and say, of these two paths, you want AI tools to cure cancer and so on.
00:12:01.780You don't want the race to the AI overlord. And don't feel powerless again, because this is really run of the mill regulatory capture going on here. So many other industries in the past have claimed they couldn't be regulated.
00:12:20.480You know, car companies said that, you know, car companies said that they would be a disaster if seat belts were required. Well, when seat belts were required, the car companies made even more money, because driving became safer and people bought more.
00:12:33.420So you really can make a difference, if you're listening to this by letting your local representatives know that you don't want to race to a digital overlord and that you want these companies to be held accountable like all other companies are.
00:12:51.820The race to the digital overlord is not some science fiction or science fantasy. It will happen, as you see it right now, it will happen within the lived experience of this audience?
00:13:05.420Well, AI used to be overhyped since the 50s until about four years ago, and everything took much slower than it was supposed to take.
00:13:15.980But then things really flipped. You know, six years ago, almost every other AI professor I know thought we were decades away from AI that could master language and knowledge and hold a conversation kind of like a human.
00:13:27.920And they were all wrong, and they were all wrong, of course. Now we have ChatGPT and so on, and AI has since then even gone on to win the Math Olympiad and things like this.
00:13:38.120So this is very much in the near future. Some tech CEOs are thinking two years, some are saying five years, ten years. We're not talking next generation.
00:13:50.840But it's not inevitable at all. The companies want you to think that AI is just something that inevitably comes to us.
00:13:59.760And indeed, some companies are trying to make it that way.
00:14:02.720OpenAI had a big announcement yesterday where they said that they're now building automated AI-powered AI researchers so that the AI can ultimately improve itself without meeting humans.
00:14:17.860But we can stop this. We can absolutely stop this because we did it. 95% of all Americans are against racing to this.
00:14:27.140Max, we've got to bounce. I know you've got to bounce. Not only do we have to stop it, we will stop this. We are going to stop this.
00:14:36.220Max Tegmark, thank you for being the tip of the spear here, sir. Look forward to having you back.
00:14:40.100Now they're building the researchers. They don't want the homo sapiens in the way when they do their research.
00:14:48.320Think about that for a second. Just contemplate it. Talk amongst yourselves. Back in the warm in a minute.
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00:16:52.800He's a communist, not a socialist communist. He's far worse than a socialist.
00:16:56.560Some people have compared him to a left-wing version of you. Charismatic, breaking the old rules. What do you think about that?
00:17:04.020Well, I think I'm a much better looking person than him, right?
00:17:06.500Okay. Well, former governor Andrew Cuomo, who you know is campaigning for mayor, he recently said that if Mondami becomes mayor of New York City, that you will take over New York.
00:17:17.980Cuomo said this. He said he will be President Trump and Mayor Trump. He's going to take over New York and send tanks down Fifth Avenue.
00:17:25.620Oh, that's so crazy. Look, when I left New York, we were at the epitome of it was a great city. It was doing great. It was a great city.
00:17:38.100But there was some bad signs because we had a guy named de Blasio who was the worst mayor.
00:17:43.840Like I say, Biden was the worst president. De Blasio was the worst mayor in the history of New York.
00:17:48.100It's going to be hard for me as the president to give a lot of money to New York, because if you have a communist running New York, all you're doing is wasting the money you're sending there.
00:18:00.100So I don't know that he's one. And I'm not a fan of Cuomo one way or the other.
00:18:04.260But if it's going to be between a bad Democrat and a communist, I'm going to pick the bad Democrat all the time, to be honest with you.
00:18:12.500Marxist, jihadist, Tej Gill, how many tours did you do in defense of your country, sir?
00:18:26.740What I believe the pitch at the time, correct me if I'm wrong, sir, for all the all the dead over at Section 60 in Arlington National Cemetery and all the all the ones that are that gave their life both active duty and contractors,
00:18:46.740because a lot of active duties went to contractors because the Pentagon had to get them off the balance sheet, was we're going to fight them.
00:18:54.420Oh, and recently spent nine trillion dollars, had, I don't know, eight or nine thousand KIAs, 50,000 wounded, another couple of thousand contractors killed.
00:19:06.240Seven trillion dollars spent in Iraq, two trillion dollars spent in Afghanistan.
00:19:10.440The whole pitch, the entire pitch, we got to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here.
00:19:15.580Well, now they're going to take over the they're going to take over the apparatus, the governing apparatus, like the Bolsheviks took over Moscow and St. Petersburg.
00:19:26.560They're going to take over the governing apparatus of the financial capital of the world, in addition to Minneapolis, Seattle, others.
00:19:34.380How does that make you feel, sir, for your all the tours that you did to to stop this?
00:29:10.180You've got getting DOJ and really Homeland Security to move and State Department to look into this.
00:29:18.360Are you guys intending to go to court?
00:29:20.160I mean, I hear a lot of people are talking about going to court on this.
00:29:25.960Give me the angle of attack of the New York Young Republicans right now.
00:29:30.700Understanding it's a crisis and understanding the elites didn't stand up here and do anything about it.
00:29:37.160What about, what's your angle of attack?
00:29:39.720Just to comment on the elites for a minute, they thought that this was going to be the billionaire's election and they were going to decide who the next mayor was.
00:29:48.940And it turns out it doesn't really work like that.
00:29:50.900You could have all the money in the world like Andrew Cuomo, but if your messaging is off, you're not going to reach voters.
00:29:56.780Zoran Mamdani was able to reach these voters.
00:29:58.960He's a talented campaigner and he has a very talented campaign team around him.
00:30:03.420In terms of the plan of attack, again, there's three plans of attack here.
00:30:06.940The first and easiest, in my opinion, is Pam Bondi needs to act.
00:30:11.260Pam Bondi must review the immigration paperwork in order for us to denaturalize and deport Zoran Mamdani.
00:30:17.820We need to see if he lied on his immigration paperwork.
00:30:20.820The second is the special committee in Congress, which, again, it would take a lot of courage from Republican leadership in order to get done.
00:30:29.040The third way to go is Congress can refer back to the appropriate legislatures.
00:30:33.800Upon that, we would be able to take this to court and fight this out.
00:30:39.920But the easiest way for us to get this done is Pam Bondi must just review the paperwork, see what's going on, see if he lied, because he definitely did.
00:30:49.440This man is part of an extremist organization, which is the DSA.
00:30:54.860And that would be the easiest way to denaturalize and deport.
00:31:00.080When you talk about that's the reality of what's going on, you have a Marxist jihadist that, of course, the mainstream media is always going to pitch in because they love progressives.
00:31:12.360But the issues that got people's attention and even have some young people in New York City kind of, you know, their heads turned because that's what they think he's about.
00:31:47.980These are things that really do resonate with New Yorkers.
00:31:51.520This is why he is the Democratic nominee.
00:31:53.380And I want to go back to the video that you played in the beginning with President Trump when they say, Mr. President, a lot of people are saying that you and Zoran are similar in your charismatic rise and the issues that you're focusing on.
00:32:08.840And the truth is, Zoran Mamdani is a left-wing populist.
00:32:13.120President Trump is a right-wing populist.
00:32:15.440If you ask them what the issues are, they're probably going to say that they're the same issues.
00:32:20.100It's the answers to those questions that are so different.
00:32:22.940When we say as right-wing populists that we need more police, they turn around and say we need more community policing or we need to decriminalize certain things.
00:32:32.860I think Republicans have really failed on affordability.
00:32:37.120President Trump is the only person in the Republican Party that is talking about these issues because he is a populist.
00:32:43.680This is a working-class party, and I think people have not gotten the memo yet.
00:32:47.720We need to be talking about the affordability crisis in this state, in this city, and we have a gubernatorial election coming up next year.
00:32:56.060And I would say that affordability should be at the top of the list for whoever is going to be the gubernatorial candidate here in New York.
00:33:06.400We must be talking about why people like me won't be able to afford a home, don't feel like they're going to be able to have children, don't feel like they'll be able to afford it.
00:33:16.140These are serious problems that need tackling, and President Trump is leading the way on that.
00:33:24.900Stefano, where can people find out more about the club and where can they find out more about you?
00:34:42.860His point is we can't – their strategy now is to take over all these – they already control them now is to take absolute control of them.
00:34:50.720Whether it's Chicago, Los Angeles, New York City, it's going to be much worse than the sanctuary cities that they are today.
00:34:57.700This is where they're going to use that as a springboard back.
00:35:02.720So five years to the day of the stealing of the 2020 election.
00:35:10.640Now, on those nights and days that we grinded through and we had everything we needed – because here's – let's just go back.
00:35:21.060And this is why it's so important to get to the – as I pull up the Washington Post again right there, the lead story, the right-hand column, lead.
00:35:31.140To get to the 2020 election is that Trump didn't – he didn't need Trump electors.
00:35:37.620He didn't need Trump, you know, by electors said that he was the victor.
00:35:45.060That wasn't going to happen given the confusion in the way that they illegally stole the election, principally through mail-in ballots, phony mail-in ballots.
00:35:56.460Mail-in ballots that should have never been counted.
00:35:59.100There's 400,000 ballots down in Fulton County in a warehouse.
00:36:26.860The evidence in Pennsylvania has been destroyed.
00:36:28.440But what it shows you is that you – Biden's electors could have never been, as states were telling you, as the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania was telling you, as Georgia was telling you, as Atlanta, as Arizona was telling you.
00:37:04.660That's why they're not engaged with President Trump really today.
00:37:08.420They're fighting the redistricting moves.
00:37:10.960If you look at Mike Pence in Indiana, what's happening in Kansas and Nebraska, what's happening throughout the country as they fight us doing these fair and honest redistrictings.
00:37:25.160Think about the year ago – what was it, the 4th of November, 5th of November last year?
00:37:33.160One year from it, given that great, glorious victory, the glorious revolution had come back from four years in the wilderness and really not even having a first term because they stole that from him with the Russian hoax and all of it.
00:37:48.980So he didn't really have a first term because they stole that from him.
00:37:53.000Then they drove him out of the White House illegally and put in an illegitimate regime.
00:37:58.640And you saw what it's done to our nation.
00:38:06.680Illegal alien invaders just on Biden's watch and highly organized, highly choreographed as we have had Ben Burkwam and Mike Davis for every day for years and years and years show you and the American people.
00:38:22.780And it was one of the biggest reasons that Kamala Harris and these people were turfed out.
00:38:26.980The American people realized they were being lied to.
00:38:33.340And one year from it, now to be in a situation that looks like you could lose New Jersey, you could lose Virginia, you could lose New York City, you could lose California.
00:38:45.300They're all kind of Democratic or become – California and New York are Democratic strongholds.
00:38:50.020New Jersey is trending towards, particularly after the last election with more work, could get to be maybe close to a Pennsylvania type thing.
00:38:59.440Virginia, I think, is gone, particularly after Yunkin didn't deliver with President Trump's massive support in the John Frederick show.
00:39:09.600John Frederick did a tremendous job back in 21 to deliver that for Yunkin and for the establishment Republicans.
00:39:16.360But we are where we are, but you can see an active program not to get Trump engaged.
00:39:22.220That's just reality, not to get him engaged.
00:39:26.600They still haven't – all the happy talk of the Republican Party, you're not going to win without Trump.
00:40:06.400Why do they see – they don't see that any different than Democrats.
00:40:08.840How did the country get in shape of this, particularly culturally, when established for Republicans at every level, at local levels, at the state level, and at the federal level didn't do anything to stop this?
00:40:21.540They bought into the managed decline because they're elites too.
00:40:26.020They bought into the managed decline of our nation.
00:40:29.120They just had to do it in a slower fashion.
00:40:33.580That's why would lower-propensity voters who – politics is not imbued into their life.
00:41:05.120He's an instrument of divine providence.
00:41:06.960And his imperfections, in overcoming his imperfections, to be one of the greatest leaders this republic has ever developed, shows his true greatness.
00:41:18.460And he's still the armor-piercing shell.
00:42:01.180And properly orchestrated, it's – in New Jersey, you wouldn't have to be sitting here counting on having a massive game day turnout because it's still doable there with a massive game day turnout.
00:42:19.320In Virginia, with a even maybe more massive game day turnout, you got four years of Yunkin's disaster.
00:42:26.080But the Yunkin – that group wanted nothing to do with Trump.
00:42:28.780The current candidate is a never-Trumper.
00:49:41.360And then as soon as Biden, you know, got destroyed by Trump in that debate, then all of a sudden you're, you know, we got to bail on Biden.
00:49:48.360And we got to do anything to stop Trump, anything to stop Trump.