Episode 4923： Passing The Political Football; Bringing In Real Capital For America
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Trump signs a bill to reopen the government after the longest government shutdown in U.S. history. He also takes a swipe at the media for its coverage of the shutdown and calls for a return to a more business-like government.
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On this vote, the yeas are 222. The nays are 209. The bill is passed. The motion is adopted.
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For the past 43 days, Democrats in Congress shut down the government of the United States
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in an attempt to extort American taxpayers for hundreds of billions of dollars for illegal
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aliens and people that came into our country illegally from gangs, from prisons, from mental
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institutions. They wanted to pay them $1.5 trillion, which would have really hurt our healthcare
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businesses and our recipients at levels never seen before. Today, we're sending a clear message
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that we will never give in to extortion, because that's what it was. They tried to extort. The
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Democrats tried to extort our country. In just a moment, I'll sign a bill exactly like we asked
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Democrats to send us all along, many days ago. This cost the country $1.5 trillion, this
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little excursion that they took us on. Republicans never wanted a shutdown and voted 15 times for
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a clean continuation of funding. There's never been a time when one or the other party ever
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didn't sign a continuation. It's just a continuation, not a big deal. It's a continuation, and we'll
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talk later. Yet the extremists and the other party insisted on creating the longest government
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shutdown in American history, and they did it purely for political reasons. So with all
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of that, I just want to tell you the country has never been in better shape. We went through
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this short-term disaster with the Democrats because they thought it would be good politically,
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and it's an honor now to sign this incredible bill and get our country working again. Thank
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I'm going to go down. It went the exact opposite with the biggest increase of any of health
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care in any country. It's a disaster. And I'm calling today for insurance companies
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not to be paid, but for the money, this massive amount of money to be paid directly to the
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people of our country so that they can buy their own health care, which will be far better
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and far less expensive than the disaster known as Obamacare. And I've had, I think, great support.
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I've even had Democrat support. So we want the money that would be going to the insurance company,
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which is hundreds of billions of dollars. You know, their stock prices have gone up by a thousand
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percent in many cases, a thousand percent over a short period of time because our country stupidly
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pays them so much money with this Obamacare scandal. So I want the money to go directly to you,
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the people. And you go out and you'll buy your own health insurance and you'll negotiate different
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plans and you'll get much better insurance and you will be an entrepreneur for yourself.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a
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belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the
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world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like
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that go to share the big line? MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people
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had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my
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country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
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It's Thursday, 13 November, Year of the Alert 2025. We are packed this morning. Mark Mitchell,
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Richard Barris, Andrew Colvette is nice enough to join us from the Charlie Kirk Show. We're going
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to talk about Charlie's plan. Rosemary Jenks, H-1B visas. We're also going to get Claire Dooley
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talk, get us up to speed on what happened yesterday at the MAHA conference. I want to start with
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Brett, my wingman. Brett, what was this all about? I mean, I really am lost. The Democrats
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are so strong at the beginning of it, then cratered. We have lost, what, six or eight weeks
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from the economy. President Trump said it's a $1.5 trillion hit to the economy. It was all
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about the hill they would die on was the illegal alien healthcare, which they didn't get. We've
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kicked the CR now through the holidays to essentially, you know, around, you know,
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theoretically the inauguration we have every four years, I think around the 20th of January
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of next year. But, you know, I don't see this crowd hammering out appropriations bills that can get
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passed in the House and the Senate. So we may back just to an annual CR off of the CR we've been
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dealing with for the last couple of years. You were here, and one of the big issues was the
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Obamacare subsidies that kind of got bailed out during the pandemic when people really weren't
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paying attention, and in particular when Biden came in. And now you've got this big issue with
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all those that come out. You just heard President Trump right there with another idea. I think an
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idea that might, a lot of people might say, that sounds pretty good. You were here when we had to deal
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with this the last time. So first off, walk me through the shutdown. What do you think the
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Democrats clearly kind of collapsed here at the end? And what does it mean? Because we still have
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this big healthcare issue. And, you know, Russ Vogt is kind of jammed up now, at least for a while,
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on the rifts that he can do. He's got to wait till I guess the next CR, or if they can make it an
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annual CR. So where are we in this? You've been through a couple of these.
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Yeah, well, I think it's politics and control over the narrative at the top level. That's what's
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going on. And then there's been a few, you know, people got their fingers up in the air,
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seeing which way the wind's blowing. At first, I think it started off kind of in the Republicans'
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favor. The evidence, you know, shutting down the economy for illegal immigrants, etc. That narrative
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was winning. Then you had the Virginia, New Jersey, California elections, and the Democrat
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pulse went up a little bit. They got excited and they, oh, we got something going here.
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And then lately, I think the Democrats see Thanksgiving break coming at them.
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And that would be a doozy. Bad, very bad for them. And so I think they were testing out the
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healthcare trial balloon. The Republicans have no answer on that. They got to get one, right? The
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Democrats, back when I was in, it was pre-existing conditions. They just push it and push it and
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push it. No end to spending, right? So it's like debating or fighting against Santa Claus. It's an
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impossible fight to win when the country's already bankrupt. And so what we need, and I think President
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Trump has expressed some of this, but the healthcare system, it's 20% of the economy, right? And,
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you know, it's kind of the ultimate conceit of the free market logic. To think that some genius can
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control in their head 20% of the economy is just absurd. But the hospital systems probably are the
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key link as far as the politics go. And they'll tell you, their CEOs told me, Dave, we love you. We
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love your ideas. But we got problems here because we need the formularies and the drugs and the
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Medicare and the social security numbers to make up for our hospital losses. And so the Republicans,
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we need to come up with, you know, in economics, we call it a Pareto efficient outcome. We need to make
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every, we need to come up with some set of policies, which makes everybody better off,
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somewhat better off without hurting anyone. If you hurt anyone, you lose.
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I got that. It's great. I got that. But, you know, we were told, and this had to be the priority
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of the Republicans after we won, you know, particularly in the House, we had to sort out
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Obamacare. You guys had passed, I think, 40 bills or something to tear it down. But you knew
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they'd never be implemented. When President Trump came in, the speed bump we hit in the first seven
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months was exactly this. Do you see, I don't need to go back over that history, but do you see the
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Republicans coming together and coming up with a solution? I mean, President Trump threw out an
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alternative last night. Do you see the Republicans between now and Christmas break coming up with a
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solution? No, on the show for the past four years, for the past 10 years with you, I've said they don't
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come together with any solutions. That's the problem. They let each 250 members go out and run their
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own campaign. There's not a contract with America at the top. There needs to be, right? We said we were
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going to repeal Obamacare, and then we had a Paul Ryan with three bucket thing, and President Trump was
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doing his best to navigate all that thing, but it was an unmitigated disaster. And so they need to come
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forward. Yes, they need to put something in place that's very understandable that you can explain in one
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sentence. Simultaneously, Dave, I just wanted people to walk down the path here, because this
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is going to drive us into the 26 midterms, or the kickoff of the 26 midterms. I guess we've already
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kicked off, but this will be the big launch. We've got, what, 90 days until January 20th to basically
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come to a resolution on the $7 trillion budget and the $5 trillion of revenue. And I know Russ Vogt and
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people have these amazing plans that President Trump signed off on to cut spending and to do it
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in a smart way. But you just saw the Democrats, what they wanted to do there was add over a trillion
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dollars for illegal alien health care. In addition, the one thing they won was to stop the rifts,
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to absolutely just hard stop the rifts. So folks, in the next, you know, between now and the first of
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the year, and that goes through Thanksgiving, the holidays, Christmas, the new year, you're going to have
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two pitch battles here in Capitol Hill. I just don't see, I just don't see either one of these
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sides coming to any resolution. My point, I think we're going to kick off 20, you're going to have a
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lot of hate and discontent in this. The Democrats are going to get more wildly violent, crazier,
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and, you know, we're going to be in a fix come January with maybe a year CR. Hang on for a second.
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We've got, I want to play Mark Mitchell and Alex Jones is going to take us to break Mark Mitchell
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and Rosemary Jenks on the other side. Let's go ahead and hit it. And so when he comes out and
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talks about bringing the price of Turkey down, well, these people can't afford houses to put
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the Turkey in and they're making jokes about you about, well, Trump's plan for affordability on
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Turkey is to like have a three-year Turkey loan where you can put no money down. And you know what
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I mean? It's like that bad. Again, where's the understanding that this needs to be economic
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populism? He ran as a populist and he's surrounded by billionaires. And like Bill Palti,
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he might be the nicest guy on earth, but when your solution to like the housing crisis is to
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make prices higher, which is what happens when you juice demand without affecting supply,
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that's what that 50 year mortgage will do. It will make the baby boomer generation more wealthy
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because their houses prices will go up. It will make home builders more wealthy because they can
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sell higher price houses and it will make bankers more wealthy because they can siphon off more interest
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out of young people. And what's really sick is that we have a bubble right now. And so for Trump,
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to expand borrowing by expanding credit, relaxing the credit requirements, what they're essentially
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doing is helping struggling people get into the market so that boomers who have made a lot of money
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can get out of the market at the top. That's even more perverse. And so that's what their solution was
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when the real solution should be to crash the market. And yes, that would be bad for the economy,
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but everybody was talking about a controlled detonation of the economy. Remember back in January,
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I think it was, we're like, okay, we're in, how are we bringing this thing down? And you know what?
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That would have been the best thing for people under 50. They could have gotten rid of all the H1Bs
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and all the visas and then crash the housing market. That would have given every zoomer a job,
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a good job, like an Apple development job. Oh yeah. Like a fever would also push all the
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foreigners out, all the illegals. And unfortunately it would be a generational wealth transfer,
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but we still have generational wealth transfers happening right now. You have young workers who
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are underemployed, basically paying for all the social security and Medicare that the boomer
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generation is demanding to be there. And what I'm saying that we're seeing is the fourth turning.
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And I think we're seeing it right now. And I think the Israel issue, and I'm not picking on Israel.
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It could have been any issue. No, absolutely. But exactly. That's been now the catalyst.
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First, that's what captured the public's attention. So break that down.
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If you look 20 years ago and ask America about like, well, what'd you think about Israel? It's
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like, it wouldn't have been that big of a political football and the numbers probably would have been
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flat across age, but then there would have been a huge age spectrum between the youngs and the olds
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on what like candidate to support. Right. Uh, now it's the complete opposite. People aren't that far
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apart on Trump between like 18 and 65, but on Israel, they're completely far apart. The 18 to 29s,
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only 21% say Israel, the 65 and older it's 59%. So they're completely at odds. Very clearly the
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fourth turning stuff. And what the fourth turning tells us is that there's a generation, the boomer
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generation is the one that, you know, takes over government, grew up where there were strong
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institutions with strong values, takes advantage of that, becomes more individualistic and selfish.
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And then at the cusp of the fourth turning crisis, there's a change of leadership into the hero
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generation, which is younger people, but specifically the millennials, people who have come up under them
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were raised by them, but have a very different value set. And so there's a crisis. And after that
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crisis, I think values are pull, not push can't push Christianity on people, conservatism on people
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from a political perspective, there's a crisis and people reorder society around a new value set.
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So I think Israel is a very deeply ingrained boomer value. They saw the nation be formed. They
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supported it all through the years and it's become a religious sacrament. And so the young people see
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boomers. Let the chat know that I have arrived. Man, oh man. Talk about the fourth turning. I did that
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film. Did that film 15 years ago? I guess it was right over the last 600 meters. Did the
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generation zero. I didn't realize how prescient I would be. Dave Bratt, we got Mark Mitchell here,
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but I want you to take, we don't need to get to the Israel issue right now. Let's take the first part
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of it, which is institutions and structures. Anytime you have these turn, you know, the kind of arc of
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American history, you have these turnings. The institutions that worked for so many, you know,
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decades turn out that they may have either used up their usefulness or need to be regenerated.
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And don't dump on my boomers. I'll get Mitchell to do that.
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No, no, I won't dump on them. I'll just put it longer on historical context, right? The
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Christian tradition, the Catholics gave us human rights language in 1300. Human reason was thriving.
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The enlightenment came upon us with human reason and thinned out our values, right? It kind of
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secularized religion and without meaning in our lives, without that deeper source of connective
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tissue that links us all together, things start falling apart. That's been going on for a hundred
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years. And in Harvard, Yale, and Princeton, all their mottos used to be truth for Christ in church.
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Not anymore. They're not even pursuing truth anymore with a capital T. And so when they're
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talking about this newer generation, they're growing up without the deeper meaning in their
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life. And I think the kids have a hunger for that. And they're going, they're going, the Orthodox,
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the Eastern Orthodox religion is growing, I think, faster than any of the others because of the
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structure and the discipline and the masculine elements. And people are starting to take a new
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look at religion. And so that ties into the Israel piece and the, and the, uh, the values
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piece and the culture piece. And, uh, it's good news, uh, but we're nowhere near culmination,
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right? It's the beginning. It's the, the fourth turning is this AI chaos. And, uh, we're about
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ready to start seeing glimmers of hope by in the young people. I, I, I think, um, in fact,
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on AI, uh, I'll get it to you. My trusty producer here, Grace has got it. Grace, you might want
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to go ahead when you're ready and put it up into the chat, uh, about $5 trillion. It's $5 trillion
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that looks like the total buildout of the data centers, the energy, all of it, uh, of which the
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U S taxpayer is going to be kind of footing the bill for a big part of it. So Mark Mitchell,
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you've been kind of on a roll. You you've been at Rasmussen for years, one of with Richard Barris,
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one of the guys that focuses on MAGA, the president, everything. You're, you're quite concerned
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about some of the direction here, but the deeper issues you've got to at the beginning of your,
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and if people have not seen it, I put it up on getter one hour that Mark spent with Alex Jones
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is a kind of must watch TV and take your number two pencil out when you're watching it because
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he's got some great insights. Your thoughts this morning, sir. Yeah. My thoughts are the
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Republicans are going to lose because they don't understand politics. They're still playing
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yesterday's political game, which is a game about basically two warring sides, two warring
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ideological sides locked in a complete stalemate. And it's not like that anymore. People under 50
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don't really care about conservatism. The problem is, is that all of these values have basically
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failed America and everybody above 50 is generally doing pretty well. Everybody under 50 can't afford
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a house, doesn't want to get married. The society doesn't work. The churches don't mean as much as
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they used to the school suck. Like everything's falling apart. And then that's what happens on a
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fourth turning. And it's like, okay, you got this wave of boomers. They did really well. And what's
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wild is just look at like median home buyer age, which has gone up from 39 to 59 in the last 20
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years. So there's an entire slice of the generation that's literally just been priced out of the
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American dream. And the polling tells us this, like everybody thinks that today's children will be
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worse off than their parents. The numbers are just absolutely abysmal. So something like the music
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finally stopped is basically where we're at. And you have the Republican party that's just like,
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well, you know, they'll be fine just voting for us because nobody likes socialism. Well,
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we're getting to the point where people are considering socialism. And I think that this
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was like the last chance of the right to actually put up or shut up. And everybody's seeing that,
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oh, they're just going to shut up. That's exactly what happened. Donald Trump had the perfect platform.
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He was given the biggest mandate the Republican party's ever going to have. All he had to do was come
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in and literally just reform government and smash the oligarchy. And he's not going to. And so all the
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young people, all of these people, like the Trump voters under 40, they are not conservative at all.
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And they gave Donald Trump a 60% approval rating in the fall or in the spring when Elon Musk and
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Doge were just completely shock and awe, like tearing the government apart. Everybody was validated that,
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yes, I distrusted the federal government and I was right. It sucks. And all of a sudden we just like
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bottled that back up. And now it's like, oh, it's the Republicans and Democrats. Who's going to blame
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more? It doesn't matter. They're just going to vote for Mom Donnie because he's going to give
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them a $10 trillion housing crisis bill. And, you know, it'll destroy the republic.
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Is this the reason? Hang on. Is this the is this the reason that in political media, you could tell
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that this shutdown did not generate the interest, did not generate the passion, did not generate
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the concern of the one that President Trump did in 18 for building the wall and the one that
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that was in 13 with Mike Lee and Ted Cruz about Obamacare, that that conventional politics
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and kind of the Republicans, the Democrats going out of it, going at it at a superficial level
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We don't have daily tracking on party. We have daily tracking on Trump. And this one was very
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different, entirely different landscape. I've been saying that people want to shut down,
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but the whole point was to actually reform the system with it. And so what happened is Donald Trump's
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numbers didn't take a nosedive at all for the first three weeks of the shutdown. It was incredible.
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I didn't know what to expect. And people were like, OK, whatever. Sure, we're going to shut this down.
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And on the Internet, which I admit is not real world, everybody was like, oh, look, we got to get
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Russ Vogt, the Grim Reaper. So what happened is about three weeks into this, when Donald Trump's
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flying around the world talking to dignitaries and we're building the East Wing of the White House
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and now food stamps are going to get defunded and we're walking into an election. All of a sudden,
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his numbers started tanking. And it was very clear that, in my opinion, the Republicans had
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no plan and everybody went on the Internet and everyone was ripping their faces off on the right
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about Israel. And so I think that's what happened. And then you look at the elections and it's like,
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oh, yep, independents and crossover Democrats didn't turn out in New Jersey. And some of them might
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have been affected by what was going on. But clearly, some of them, I think, just expected more out of a
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Republican Party and are not excited to go to the polls. Democrats are excited to go vote because
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they hate Trump and that motivates them. On the right, unfortunately, what motivates them is
00:23:45.440
smashing the oligarchy and burning the government down. And the right is not doing that. And so
00:23:49.620
the left's going to get a chance. The pendulum is going to swing back and this might be the last
00:23:53.620
chance. I don't know. We got 355 days to an election and the Republicans are going to lose this
00:23:58.040
one. They are just going to lose it. It looked like their plan was a gerrymandering war of attrition
00:24:02.900
that they're now appearing to lose. And the generic ballot is, I think, Democrat plus five
00:24:07.680
on the real clear politics aggregate. Rich says his numbers are way worse than that. I don't steal
00:24:12.060
his thunder. And we're going to go back in the field soon, too. And history tells us they're going
00:24:16.660
to lose it anyways. And so at this point, you know, you have a clip about it, but there needs to be
00:24:21.140
drastic action for the Republican Party if they actually want to fix America. But I think what's being
00:24:25.760
revealed is that they just don't. And J.D. Vance polls really well. But, you know, 2028, this time
00:24:32.620
we mean it is not a good campaign slogan. What we're going to have Andrew Colvett's going to be
00:24:39.260
on here. Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk actually on August 19th put up an action plan. In fact, you'll
00:24:45.240
see it. I put it up on Getter yesterday. You'll see it when we have a clip of Chip Roy and Benny
00:24:51.260
Johnson talking about H-1B visas. We're going to bring in. We're going to bring in Rosemary
00:24:56.380
Jenks here in a moment. When you say they're going to lose it, obviously nothing in history
00:25:00.360
is actually set in place. But you're recommending Barris is going to come on, too. You're recommending
00:25:04.660
from what you're seeing a pretty dramatic action plan to get back to the basics and particularly
00:25:09.980
to get back to the motive power we had in the first 100 days, 200 days of the Trump of the
00:25:16.220
Trump's second term. Yeah, they need to do something different. People voted for massive
00:25:22.180
change in Washington, D.C., not business as usual. And fighting over health care subsidies
00:25:26.340
is business as usual. It just is. And the Republicans in Congress and the Senate, I understand you
00:25:31.360
have a shiny object in front of you, but you're playing the wrong game. The right game is let's
00:25:35.820
arrest some pharma company CEOs. The right game is like sue every insurance company for antitrust.
00:25:41.680
The right game is like actually audit Medicare spending, like find $100 billion worth of
00:25:47.920
useless like sleep apnea payments or all the double payments that Doge was going after
00:25:53.580
or all of these over diagnosis tests or like actually break the industry capture of the
00:26:01.020
medical regulatory system. We have the right people, do we not? Like this is the best they're
00:26:05.040
ever going to get in Washington, D.C. And unfortunately, I think what's going to happen is none of that
00:26:09.240
will work because these people care about business influence. It's like literally Trump is surrounded
00:26:14.480
apparently by billionaires right now and he has to smash the oligarchy, not be the oligarchy
00:26:19.600
or the Democrat Party is just going to take over the oligarchy. And that's what they're doing.
00:26:24.040
They're just passing this political football back and forth. And, you know, the music is going to
00:26:28.360
stop. Like the right is turning into a hard right movement. The left is turning into a socialist
00:26:34.000
movement. And, you know, our dollar is just going to get destroyed and we're giving all the jobs away,
00:26:40.060
the cream of our economy. This is a health care thing, too. I mean, it's really perverse,
00:26:44.220
the health care industry. Sixty percent of the health medical insurance is actually like employer
00:26:49.460
insurance. And the way they price those things is the whole company's age average is taken into
00:26:54.960
account. So there's a really perverse incentive to just like push older people out of the workplace.
00:26:59.520
And in my opinion, that's probably one of the primary drivers of H-1B that everybody's raging
00:27:03.860
against is that, well, we have too many old people. Well, we have a bottomless well of third
00:27:09.380
world young people that we can import with the H-1B program. And I don't care what that does to the
00:27:13.620
American society or culture. I'm just increasing profits. And so Charlie Kirk's plan. And my
00:27:20.080
understanding is Charlie Kirk was one of the few people that could get to Donald Trump that actually
00:27:23.280
understood this. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Don't get ahead of yourself. We're going to get to all
00:27:27.800
that. We've got Rosemary Jenks on H-1B visas. We've got Andrew Colvette, Richard Barris talking
00:27:32.900
about Charlie's plan. Mitchell's going to stick around with us. Okay. Let's be honest. You never
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you're with the war room. Take a second. What actually is it? Why is your watchword medical
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freedom? And how does this help people? We just had the great Maha conference here yesterday.
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Claire Dooley is going to be on later to talk about it. Why is all family pharmacy help and assist when
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We're giving patients, all Americans, access to everyday medications that doctors simply don't
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How do people get there? What the war room does is allow the posse to actually go to these sites,
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meet the people, get relationships. Where do they go right now to go to your site? Who do they talk to?
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You're extending, I think, the Bannon 25. You're extending the sale you had the other day for Veterans
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So you go to allfamilypharmacy.com backslash Bannon. The coupon code is Bannon25. We created
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Perfect. Michael, thank you so much. Look forward to having me back here in the next couple of days.
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Go there today. Meet Michael and his team. Thank you, brother. Let's go and play Benny Johnson,
00:32:32.660
Chip Roy. We've got Rosemary Jenks, Mark Mitchell, Dave Bratt. Let's go and play the clip.
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The dream of homeownership and a functional society has collapsed in one generation since
00:32:44.700
the greatest generation in World War II. And it's something that we got to fix. Charlie's solution,
00:32:48.840
obviously, is mass deportations and ending H-1B scams, among other things. What's your take on
00:32:54.520
this, Congressman? Well, first of all, I did listen to virtually all of Byron's interview. And
00:32:59.760
there's a reason that I've endorsed him for governor. We agree. We're great friends. We
00:33:03.180
work together in the House Freedom Caucus. We are aligned philosophically on a lot of these issues.
00:33:07.560
So I agree with much of what he said. But what I would just add is, in Texas, we've been dealing
00:33:13.420
with the brunt of the illegal immigration influence. But now we're seeing, I think,
00:33:18.700
the ramifications of the H-1B system and how it has been abused, in addition to chain migration and
00:33:25.240
diversity visas, which we've been trying to fix for a long time. And we've been unable to do so.
00:33:30.280
You'll remember back in 2018, with the various bills that were being debated in President Trump's
00:33:36.540
first term. And we were unable to get that resolved as Republicans. And it left it both broken with
00:33:42.160
respect to the illegal immigration system. We didn't get the wall fully built. We didn't get
00:33:46.780
fixes to all of the asylum problems and the abuse of parole and the catch and release.
00:33:51.580
But we also didn't address ending the chain migration and diversity visas. We had language to do it.
00:33:57.020
We just couldn't get the votes. So now, what are we dealing with in Texas? We're dealing with a
00:34:02.120
massive Islamism problem. We're dealing with a massive problem of the advancement of Sharia law.
00:34:08.780
We're dealing with a mass community that is growing up, that have no desire to assimilate
00:34:14.880
and come here to become American and embrace Western civilization, embrace our constitution,
00:34:21.240
embrace our values. We've allowed the corporatists to define our entire national policy.
00:34:27.500
And if I were going to go talk about what Charlie's tweet there was about that summary,
00:34:32.040
which is exceptionally on point. And as he always was when he was starting from faith,
00:34:38.840
family, the foundational principles, and that encapsulates it very well. You should be able
00:34:44.140
to own a home. You should be able to have Americans getting jobs. And the mass deportation is correct.
00:34:49.560
The ending H-1BB says it's correct, et cetera. What I would point out here is that we're dealing with
00:34:55.580
a cultural problem about who we are as Americans. Going back a couple of years ago, I was noting 51
00:35:01.940
million people in this country are foreign born, but that's something like 16 or 17 percent of the
00:35:08.580
population. Now, that is higher than it's ever been. That is higher than it was in the early 20th
00:35:15.380
Hang on for one second. Just hold that. I want to get the rosemary drinks. Chip is going to join us
00:35:21.040
tomorrow to talk about this. So what Chip is saying, he's actually working on, they're working
00:35:27.520
on some legislation now at Rosemary Jenks to resolve these problems, H-1B visas and others.
00:35:34.240
Can you just give us, not an idea what's in it, because I know they're going to launch this and
00:35:37.600
announce it and you've been working on it, but the mood change up on Capitol Hill that these things
00:35:43.380
have to be addressed now. You heard Chip give a great summary of kind of the Charlie Kirk perspective
00:35:47.960
of how bad this has gotten, ma'am. Well, I'm not sure that, unfortunately, there has been
00:35:54.320
an overall mood change in Congress. I think there are members of Congress who are figuring this out
00:36:01.800
and who are listening to the American people, and obviously Congressman Roy is one of them. There are
00:36:06.520
others. But what we need right now is a turning point. Speaking of Charlie Kirk, we need to have a
00:36:17.640
national conversation about what our immigration policy should be. I'll tell you a dirty little
00:36:25.940
secret. Our immigration system is working exactly as Congress intended it to work right now. This is
00:36:34.900
what they designed it for. It is not working for the American people, but it is doing exactly what
00:36:41.020
they intended. So we need to step back and have a national conversation about what an immigration
00:36:47.860
policy that serves Americans' interests looks like. And the best way to do that is to have a
00:36:54.400
moratorium bill that stops it all right now so that we can have that conversation. And that is what
00:36:59.300
Congressman Roy is talking about. So an H-1B bill that we've been talking about, because we think the
00:37:06.520
whole thing's a scam, to shut it down, what's going to be the pushback on that from industry? Because right
00:37:11.480
now, as you know, Rosemary, they have not shown us one billet that an American can't fill either through
00:37:16.420
an education level or job experience. This is all about driving down wages. So if Roy and others put
00:37:25.240
forward a bill to basically put the whole system, the H-1B system, on a hiatus, what is industry and what are the
00:37:33.780
tech bros going to say? Well, first of all, what Congressman Roy is talking about is not just
00:37:40.060
putting H-1B on hiatus. He's talking about the entire immigration system. So legal immigration,
00:37:46.340
non-immigrant workers, all of it. But there is going to be absolute caterwauling from the tech
00:37:54.600
industry. They're going to claim that, you know, they're going to go out of business and a lot of the
00:38:00.920
Chamber of Commerce types will claim the same thing. The fact is, there will be short-term
00:38:07.480
dislocations, short-term pain if this is enacted. But there's going to be plenty of warning for these
00:38:15.720
companies that are dependent on, or, you know, say they're dependent on cheaper foreign labor,
00:38:21.140
because this is going to take some time. It's not going to be enacted by Congress overnight. We have a
00:38:26.320
lot of work to do to build support for this kind of legislation. But the fact is, American companies
00:38:34.860
need to start now weaning themselves off this cheap foreign labor and hiring Americans. It's good for
00:38:42.600
America. It's good for American workers. It's good for our economy. So start now. And the dislocation,
00:38:49.780
the disruption will be significantly less when we get to a point that finally Americans' voices are
00:38:59.060
We have, is it correct? I think we have 12 million STEM workers, people that are trained either through
00:39:05.180
education and or training in industry that are not in the workforce or out of work now in a STEM
00:39:11.640
profession, correct? So there's a pretty deep pool of candidates out there.
00:39:15.620
Absolutely. And we know that there has been massive discrimination against American workers over
00:39:21.640
the age of 40, who, you know, are becoming too expensive and, and the employers can fire them
00:39:28.740
and bring in a younger, cheaper entry level foreign worker at a much lower salary. We also know,
00:39:35.700
of course, that young Americans are being just completely ignored in tech fields because the foreign
00:39:44.080
student to OPT to H1B pipeline is so robust. And so it's time to break those. It's time to break the
00:39:52.360
pipelines. It's time to break the dependence on foreign workers. Americans absolutely need this to
00:40:00.160
happen. And we need it to happen now. It's not going to happen, you know, instantly, but we need it to
00:40:07.740
happen. And we need to have this conversation. And I think that is the big thing that Congressman
00:40:13.020
Roy's legislation will generate is this national conversation on what is the immigration policy
00:40:21.100
we need. Do we need any immigration at all? You know, maybe we want to limit two spouses and minor
00:40:26.160
children. Maybe we want to have no immigration for some significant period of time. We've got to have
00:40:32.380
that conversation. The American people have never been asked, what immigration policy do you want?
00:40:39.000
It's time. The dislocations, though, for the tech, for the tech bros, because they're going to
00:40:47.400
catwall her in with their lobbyists and all that. If you plan ahead and we can plan ahead starting now,
00:40:53.420
it won't be that bad because you've got a tremendous pool plus American citizens, not foreign students,
00:40:59.120
but American citizens coming out of university every year. If you got serious and plan this out,
00:41:05.640
the disruptions and displacements would be pretty small, correct? Yeah, that's absolutely true. We
00:41:11.360
have plenty of workers in this country. And even if you have to take a worker out of college and train
00:41:17.660
them to do whatever it is you do, whether it's building ships or building missiles or whatever,
00:41:23.720
that there will be time to do that if you start now. So if employers want to avoid the economic
00:41:30.860
disruptions, they need to start now and start focusing on American workers.
00:41:39.720
Rosemary, you're going to be a main part of actually getting the narrative set and the
00:41:43.420
messaging, all that. Where do people go? I know Dave Bratt is on your board, a board member in good
00:41:49.460
standing. He did this because he wanted to see action also. Where do folks go to get more information?
00:41:53.760
Dave is the chairman of our board and we are, the website is iapaction.com, iapaction.com or
00:42:03.200
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This is going to be a big fight, ma'am. Thank you so much. Appreciate you.
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Okay, Mark Mitchell. Rosemary Jenks has been working on this. They're all set to go. Dave Bratz,
00:44:16.680
the chairman. Your thoughts about this, about this may be a messaging bill. What are you warning,
00:44:22.720
not just the Republican Party and the MAGA movement, but the country at large, sir?
00:44:26.780
355 days until the pendulum swings back to the left and this time they're going for it.
00:44:34.160
And so the time for talking is over. And I will respectfully say that, yes, somebody has asked
00:44:39.680
America what they think about the H-1B situation and immigration. Well, if you ask them about H-1B,
00:44:45.180
they say, yeah, they like it because we like the idea of being able to take talented people. But then
00:44:49.360
they say, oh, but the corporations are abusing it. I hate major corporations. The economy is fair.
00:44:54.220
I can't buy a house. And I'm ready to turn to socialism because capitalism has failed me.
00:44:59.020
And they've told us this over and over again. And it's been forever. And I've only ever had two
00:45:03.500
Republicans ever reach out to me for polling. And so they don't care because their interests don't
00:45:08.960
want this. And the idea that somehow we're just going to discover performatively in some national
00:45:13.260
conversation that Americans hate H-1Bs is ridiculous. Donald Trump's still out there defending it
00:45:18.480
with billionaire propaganda on TV, giving his movement a smack in the face. When his movement,
00:45:24.200
like, I don't know if everybody remembers, but there was a pretty major event,
00:45:27.780
the Christmas massacre of Ramaswamy back in December of 2024. The youth yeeted him out of the
00:45:33.640
conservative movement because of his defense of the Indian work culture. No Americans aren't stupid.
00:45:39.400
No Americans aren't lazy. And the idea that we don't have these people is retarded.
00:45:42.880
I apply for some major jobs in the tech industry. And every time I go for a job I want, I've had to
00:45:48.740
go against 500 people just like me and 500 Indians. And they hire the Indians. And everybody knows that
00:45:54.920
every one of these tech companies is chock full of them because we've given the best parts of our
00:45:59.120
economy away to the rest of the world. It was sold out. Sold out. And the Americans know it. They know
00:46:04.560
this already. And so I've done a lot of stick. Let's do some carrot. If the Republican Party can do this,
00:46:10.760
not talk about it, do this, within a year, they will rule for 50 years. They will capture the
00:46:16.860
youth. They have to do a two-point plan. One is everything that Andrew's about to talk about,
00:46:22.000
the Charlie Kirk plan of economic populism. And yes, there will be some economic disruption.
00:46:27.260
The youth want to drink billionaire tears. That's part of the process. And then two is visibly
00:46:33.920
reform government. The FBI raided Mar-a-Lago like the Gestapo, just putting somebody else in charge of
00:46:40.660
it, doesn't restore institutional trust. There needs to be a visible reform process. People have
00:46:46.800
to see into the investigations, see the firings, see the root cause and corrective action about all
00:46:54.180
of our agencies, the FBI, the CIA, the IRS. What about the regulatory capture of the healthcare
00:47:00.780
industry? Healthcare is going to destroy our republic. And the youth know it because their healthcare,
00:47:06.480
their individual plans cost almost as much as rent. Talking about a 10% reduction because of
00:47:11.800
price negotiation with insurance companies is not adequate. It's old politics. You will fail.
00:47:18.920
The oligarchy needs to be smashed. The only question is, is it with a right hook or a left hook?
00:47:25.140
Mark Mitchell, you're on fire. Where do people go to get on your social media and particularly your
00:47:31.300
YouTube channel? Rasmussen underscore poll on Twitter. And I'm blowing up. I apparently just
00:47:38.140
passed Mark Levin on Twitter at honest pollster and Rasmussen underscore poll on YouTube. They can
00:47:44.880
go get that one hour Alex Jones interview there. Hang on. You passed on engagement. The numbers are
00:47:51.020
blowing up, but you're doing it off a relatively small base. He's got a couple of million. You have
00:47:55.200
what, 150,000? Oh yeah. He's got a follower base 50X higher than me, but I could probably ratio him
00:48:01.200
right now if I wanted to. Wow. Mark Mitchell. Thank you, brother. Thank you for coming on here and
00:48:07.140
being, uh, giving it to us with the bark on. Great. Great to be here. Thanks. Dave Bratt, you heard it.
00:48:14.520
Got to take action. If you do this, you'll, if you get this done next year, kind of, you know,
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let's stop all immigration for a while and let's get rid of the H-1B program. You'll, you will, uh,
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reign for 50 years. Your thoughts and we have a Republican party. Do we have enough leaders up
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there that can help get this done? No, absolutely not. I agree with everything Mark Mitchell said
00:48:40.200
and the way he said it. It's brilliant. It's spot on. Uh, but he mentioned two key words. One is
00:48:46.540
there's going to be dislocation and chaos, and we're going to smash the oligarchs. If you smash
00:48:52.700
the oligarchs, you're going to smash what I call the giant Excel spreadsheet in the sky. That's only
00:48:57.300
in the speaker's office. It's the Excel spreadsheet with all the donors and the funders. If you're,
00:49:02.740
if you, you may pick up the young vote, but you'll lose the money vote. And so, uh, the only person
00:49:09.140
capable of solving this again, unfortunately is president Trump. If he chooses to message on this and tell
00:49:15.520
the speaker and Thune what to do, they will do it. I think they better do it. I think you just put
00:49:21.040
your finger on it. I got a chart later on inflation under Biden at 20%. If you explain the inflation
00:49:27.620
piece and this immigration piece, I think Mark Mitchell is exactly right. You will win and you
00:49:32.660
will be in power for 50 years because you will get grain, gain your credibility again. And we've lost
00:49:38.100
it. We've lost the credibility and the momentum. We got to get it back now. Hang on. When you say
00:49:43.300
explain inflation and immigration, what do you talk about? How he inherited a mess that was,
00:49:48.100
had 20% inflation of the dollar getting crushed. Explain that. How do you kind of, you've already
00:49:53.660
said, you've already said that we're in charge and it's a golden age. How do you, how do you go
00:49:58.100
back and tell people, Hey, this hole is so much deeper than anybody let on, sir? You know, I think
00:50:05.520
it's essential. I mean, we were saying that on the war room, not, not so fast on the cheerleading,
00:50:10.100
the capital investment up in the $15 trillion range is coming. It's heroic. If Denver wants to
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put up a chart just for 10 seconds, here's the inflation story, right? In 10 seconds, there's
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Trump on the far left at 0.1 and 1.4. Then under Biden, you get, you got to add all those numbers
00:50:29.040
together. The nine, one is the peak. And then you add five and four and three, and you get 21% inflation
00:50:35.080
under Biden. And what no one has explained to the American people and president Trump ought to put
00:50:40.200
that chart up on TV and say, guess what? That 20% price increase, the destruction of the dollar,
00:50:48.120
that's what you're feeling. That does not go away, right? When you see that three, five at the end,
00:50:52.780
that doesn't mean the 20% went away. The 20% is locked in permanently and you've lost 20% of your
00:51:00.120
retirement account. They've destroyed 20% of the purchasing power of your retirement account.
00:51:06.420
And Trump needs to explain that because that's what he's getting judged on.
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This is why the BRICS nations made a move on the dollar, the de-dollarization.
00:51:14.920
One, it's to take the United States down, but two, they were getting stiffed. What does this mean? I
00:51:20.620
think it means the IRS, because the CR is far from over as far as we were actually getting an
00:51:27.560
appropriations bill that President Trump wants that cuts costs, cuts spending. As long as you're
00:51:32.840
running $2 trillion deficits, the IRS needs your money from somewhere, even if Scott Besson
00:51:37.460
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