Episode 4925： Federal Criminal Probe Into Swalwell; Gene Editing And Creating Your Own Future
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California Congressman Eric Swalwell is now the fourth Democratic official to face mortgage fraud allegations, according to new reporting from NBC News. President Trump's top housing official, Bill Pulte, has reportedly referred Swallwell, again, to the Justice Department for a possible federal criminal probe, based on allegations of mortgage fraud and tax fraud related to a D.C. residence, a person familiar with the referral said.
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California Congressman Eric Swalwell, now the fourth Democratic official to face mortgage fraud allegations,
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President Trump's top housing official, Bill Pulte, reportedly referred Swalwell, again according to NBC News,
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to the Justice Department for a possible federal criminal probe based on allegations of mortgage fraud and tax fraud
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related to a D.C. residence, according to a person familiar with the referral who again spoke with NBC News.
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I mean, that's basically the argument. Remember where this is coming from.
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This is coming from Bill Pulte, who runs the FHFA, Federal Housing Finance Authority,
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and somebody who is close to the president and has at times clashed with other people in the White House,
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but has this close relationship with the president and based on our reporting and public reporting,
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does a lot of what the president wants him to do.
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And listen, I don't know the particulars of Eric Swalwell's living situation.
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So I and this again, this letter, which I believe we do have, although I'm not entirely sure since I've been on with you,
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doesn't really lay out in rich detail what they are what they are going after him for.
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But to be honest with you, if you as Lisa just said, if you look at the list of people that the administration is is targeting,
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it's all people who are political adversaries of the president.
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Eric Swalwell has made a name for himself up here on Capitol Hill as somebody who is probably one of the most ardent critics of the president going back years.
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And the Trump and Trump world has gone at him with everything they've they have over the over the last few years as well.
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So, yeah, I am not surprised by this in any way, shape or form, to be frank with you.
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Here's what he says as the most vocal critic of Donald Trump over the last decade.
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And as the only person who still has a surviving lawsuit against him, the only thing I'm surprised about is that it took him this long to come after me.
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Like James, James Comey and John Bolton, Adam Schiff and Lisa Cook, Letitia James and the dozens more to come.
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I refuse to live in fear in what was once the freest country in the world.
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Of course, I will not end my lawsuit against him and I will not stop speaking out against the president and speaking up for California's Californians.
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As Mark Twain said, patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it.
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The other bit of news as we watch what happens next with Eric Swalwell.
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And I am curious to see if Republican lawmakers start to get uncomfortable with this and maybe start to say so.
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Jake, you let me know if that starts happening.
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You hit a key point, which is a lot of members of Congress have homes in Washington, D.C.
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So you're going to do something like this on the merits.
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I'm just saying it's a complicated living situation that costs a lot of money.
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I would imagine that a lot of people have a lot of, you know, people have mortgages in both places and stuff like that.
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But I'm not I'm not familiar enough with the law to know whether what defines a primary residence.
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But if you're going to start poking around at the living situations of five hundred thirty five members of Congress, which, by the way, we have done in the past and put in my career looking at living situations.
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It is it is it is complicated, Lindsay Halligan and whether she is allowed legally to bring these cases.
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Lisa, there was a court hearing about this today.
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You know, Judge Cameron McCurry of the District of South Carolina, Katie, came up here to Alexandria, Virginia, to the courthouse right behind me to hear arguments from lawyers for Tish James and James Comey together about why Lindsay Halligan's appointment here was unlawful and why, in light of that, the indictments against both of them cannot stand.
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And Judge Curry is not a particularly demonstrative judge.
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She's not a person that you can really tell her moods based on her expressions, for example, or where she's headed.
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But she asked a couple of questions that indicate to people like me where this is going.
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And the first question out of her mouth, and this is in Politico's very good report of today's hearing, was she asked the defense if they were in possession of what's called the declination memo that was written in the Comey case.
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A declination memo is sort of what it sounds like.
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It is a detailed legal memo laying out the reasoning why prosecutors believe that in the interest of justice, a case should not be brought.
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But Judge Curry is asking the question because the government's position here is if anything went wrong in the appointment of Lindsay Halligan, it's nothing more than like a scrivener's error or a paper error.
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And I think what Judge Curry is driving at is, no, no, no, something here was very substantial.
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Something here was gained that otherwise would not have been.
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You had line prosecutors authoring a declination memo.
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Maybe that's not in your possession now, but we know it to exist.
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And if they didn't want to bring the case, the very fact that Lindsay Halligan was appointed here and that Eric Siebert, who had been her predecessor, was forced to resign,
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that is a very consequential decision and one that matters here.
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Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
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I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
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And where do people like that go to share the big line?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Thursday, 13 November in the year of our Lord, 2025.
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Natalie, Halligan, even being, but who's bringing these people to court?
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One of the dark forces that we highlight all the time is the back of it.
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Well, I'm going to shock you, but it's linked to the Arabella Advisors Dark Money Network.
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In this case, another euphemistic name, it's the Campaign for Accountability.
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Is this Mark Elias got the fee for, or is it Norm Eisen?
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He and Jen Rubin over at their new Substack gig, The Contrarian, were hosting a pretty
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bizarre live stream where they were talking about specifically this strategy where they're
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bringing these lawsuits against these interim U.S. attorneys to try to force it to the judges
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But yeah, all these lawsuits are basically cut from the same cloth in terms of the entities
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The vice, where he's with us, Mike Davis, Mike, so Natalie's just told us who's doing
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I mean, they're, they're, if you watch MSNBC, they're beating themselves on the chest
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Are they going to get Halligan off this case, sir?
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Well, even if they have some Democrat appointed judge temporarily get her off this case, it
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will get appealed up through the appellate system to the Supreme Court.
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And I think the Supreme Court is going to side with the Trump Justice Department on this.
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She was appointed based upon a statute giving her 120 day appointment.
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And then the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, also made Halligan a special attorney to the
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So she has full authority to do what she's doing.
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And she could, they could just make her the first assistant U.S. attorney, and she can
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They may try to get some Democrat judge to temporarily knock these U.S. attorneys out of their positions,
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If you look at what Halligan has done so far in response, for example, to Comey's motion to
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dismiss the indictment for selective prosecution, Halligan showed overwhelming evidence in response
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to that, that Comey lied to Congress and obstructed the congressional investigation.
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She just put out more evidence today when Comey asked for a bill of particulars.
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This evidence is very damning against James Comey, and I can see why these Democrat activists
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are running to these Democrat judges to try to get rid of Halligan because she's holding
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But they're also trying, I want to make sure the audience understands that these filings
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They're trying to make a case that there's really no evidence on Comey, and they didn't
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file anything, and the judges are upset, and they're asking again today because they're
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trying to build a narrative that, you know, the Trump Justice Department is just a group
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of unprofessional savages that run into court with indictments but then don't have anything.
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What are the facts here, Mike, as you see them?
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The facts are that Lindsey Halligan working with Cash Patel and Dan Bongino and Senator
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Chuck Grassley's office have unearthed tremendous evidence of guilt against James Comey for lying
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about the Russian collusion hoax, crossfire hurricane, lying about these ongoing investigations,
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Lindsey has shown the receipts, and she's doing it the appropriate way.
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He's filing these motions, the motion to dismiss the indictment, the motion for a bill of particulars,
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and in response to each one of those, Lindsey Halligan has shown her receipts, and again,
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this evidence is overwhelming, and it's damning.
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He can confront the evidence and the witnesses against him with cross-examination.
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He's presumed innocent, all of that, but if you look at this evidence with his own emails,
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if we have a fair judge and a fair jury, Comey's going to prison.
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How long on Halligan before the judge comes to some conclusion?
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I think this judge is going to bounce Lindsey from the case because it's a Clinton-appointed
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Democrat judge, and of course, they know that Lindsey's over the target, and so they're
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They're going to try to create this smoke around her.
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I don't know if it's going to be the Fourth Circuit who does it or the Supreme Court that
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does it, but Lindsey will be back on this case.
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But it's going to be a temporary setback by these Democrat operatives working with these
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But they still chop block us, and they get some time doing the judges.
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Before I go to Swalwell, I want to talk about this.
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So we've got Ben Burquam here who's been out operationally with these folks.
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They're going to let these ICE detainees just go?
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It's very confusing what they're saying, and it's quite dangerous, Mike Davis.
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They do not have the jurisdiction to just free these ICE detainees like they think they
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There's an immigration judicial system that's run through the Justice Department.
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There are immigration judges, and you go through that process.
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You don't just run to district judges and get hundreds of illegal aliens, dangerous illegal
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aliens, freed from jail because some Democrat activist judge has a policy disagreement with
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the American people and are duly elected president of the United States.
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Again, President Trump campaigned on the fact he's going to secure our border.
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They elected Trump with 312 electoral votes, all seven swing states, the popular vote.
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These Democrat activist judges do not have the power to interfere like they are in the
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But they're going to make a decision next week.
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That's another thing is probably going to have to go to an appellate court.
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I mean, it's all to slow down the process, right?
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If they slow it down, that's a victory for them.
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Swalwell, is he being indicted for a fang-fang?
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I think everyone there, it's probably as commonplace as insider trading.
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I also meant to add, the same group bringing this lawsuit, they also gave Fusion GPS hundreds
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of thousands of dollars for their investigations against Devin Nunes.
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All the money goes back to these dark money sources.
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I would love to find one actually organically grassroots-funded left-wing group.
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We're going to, the viceroy, can you stick around just for a couple minutes on the other
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In Chicago, and other places on those raids, you saw these bad hombres rolled up, right?
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Illegal alien invasion being reversed by, wait for it, a federal judge that Mike Davis
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saying, hey, doesn't even have the jurisdiction.
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Swalwell referred over for a criminal indictment on another real estate transaction.
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Turns out, I guess he lives in, got a house in the district, not a house back home in his
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They're accusing President Trump of being vindictive against, as Swalwell calls,
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But is this being vindictive or is this just going through and playing by the rules?
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Well, I mean, I think people like Eric Swalwell told us that nobody's above the law.
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So if he violated federal law with mortgage fraud, then he should be held accountable for
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It smells pretty bad right now for Eric Swalwell.
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And we'll see what the evidence shows in this particular case.
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But, you know, I mean, you can't lie in your mortgage applications to get a more favorable
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interest rate if it's not your primary residence.
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This is where they got President Trump on the bizarre theory of, like, different interest
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Is that still beyond the statute of limitations on his treasonous activity with the Chinese
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I mean, if the general statute of limitations is five years, if you've committed a federal
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felony, it could be more if you're dealing with espionage.
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But if there's an ongoing conspiracy, if you're covering up your conspiracy, that continues
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So, you know, again, Eric Swalwell was pretty adamant that nobody was above the law during
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four years of Biden's law firm against Trump, his top aides, his allies, and his supporters.
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So it sounds like the same would be true of Swalwell.
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Speaking of conspiracy, and you should know, MSNBC every day, they're keeping a chart.
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So when you get into another Swalwell, they go, oh, this is like the fifth of President
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Trump's, you know, enemies that he's going after.
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Speaking of conspiracies, South Florida, I know that you can't, and we should not, and
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we don't want the details, but do you have a sense directionally, like, where we're headed,
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Jason Redding Quinones is a very good friend of mine.
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His family escapes politicized and weaponized intelligences and law enforcement.
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He grew up very, very modestly in Little Havana in Miami with extended family in a three-bedroom,
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one-bathroom apartment after they escaped Cuba.
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I imagine that Jason will not have very much tolerance for anyone who politicizes and weaponizes
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intel agencies and law enforcement to go after their political enemies for non-crimes.
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And so he's the perfect person to investigate this criminal conspiracy.
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I know that he has got the court to open a special grand jury or another grand jury in Fort
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Pierce starting in January, so we'll see what happens.
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Ben Berquam, you've been in the streets with the ICE agents on the raids, kicking down the
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Your thoughts today as you see a federal judge basically saying, we're going to let 300
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of these bad hombres that are here illegally go back and walk the streets of Chicago.
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Well, I just want to start off by saying where this all originated from.
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This is a settlement agreement, a consent agreement between the previous regime under Secretary
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Marocas and leftist activist organizations out of Chicago that attacked President Trump
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This was decided, this consent agreement was decided in 2022.
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If my math is right, it actually should have already timed out.
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But basically what you have is judicial activist judges working with activist regimes like
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They knew they were letting in millions of illegals into our country.
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They would grant these activist organizations like the Illinois Coalition for Immigrants and
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Refugee Rights and the Organized Communities Against Deportation.
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They would basically bend over and give in to their demands to say that we won't arrest illegal
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aliens unless we have a warrant on additional criminal charges.
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The bottom line is ICE is going after everyone and they should go after everyone.
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And part of the reason why they're going into the communities and having to do this
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is because of the very sanctuary policies that Chicago implemented.
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So instead of going into the jails and picking these guys up that have committed crimes, that
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have committed additional crimes on top of being illegal, they have to go out into the
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And when they're out in the community arresting these guys, they're also picking up additional
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You have organizations like these, Indivisible.
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I'm right here across from one of the detention centers here in Little Rock, Arkansas.
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And every day you've got these leftist activists coming out, the same organizations that are
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trying to obstruct ICE in the streets are out here attacking ICE for doing their job.
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So just we've got to bounce, but I want the audience to know you've been on many of these
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This is why they have to cover up because of the leftist organizations trying to dox them
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What's the morale like when you've got the ICE guys are doing these very dangerous raids.
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And now you've got these federal judges about to let people go, bad hombres go.
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They love this administration and they hate these judges.
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These guys want to be able to do their job, go after the bad guys, and they watch what
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these judges and these activist organizations are doing, and it makes them sick.
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But I've had multiple officers come up to me and say, we're finally able to do our job
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And that's why we have more applications for ICE than we've ever had, over 200,000 applications
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The patriotism of these folks and the job they're doing.
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Ben, social media, your show on Saturday night, and where do we get you in the interim?
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At Ben Berkwam is my personal, at Real AM Voice, new episodes of Law & Border, americasvoice.news.
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My sub stack is Frontline America and my website, frontlineamerica.com.
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We're going to continue to bring it to you, the truth that the mainstream media—and the
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biggest thing is the conspiracy charges against all of these organizations that have been working
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Article III project, Davis, does an amazing job with that, but it all ties back together.
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I want to go—I know we've got A, we've got so much to go through, but I want to talk
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It's a much bigger problem when we were in the years in the wilderness.
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The right has nothing like this apparatus that the left has.
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There's this very, very constant money machine, a cash machine from sources we don't know.
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And let's—they're funding people who are effective.
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We don't like Mark Elias, but they're coming up with good suits.
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They're slowing us down because they understand to slow us down is to win because we are burning
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daylight and we only have so much time to do it.
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What do we have to do and what should we be doing?
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Because I thought that we were going to try to do this because Antifa was designated a foreign
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terrorist organization today, which gives us a lot more flexibility on the financial tools.
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To go to—get to Arabella, to get to Soros, to get to these funding of—I know they're
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doing—potentially doing some terrorist financing.
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But for the Arabellas and these guys that continue to come up and provide cash for the Norm
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Well, let's link it to what Ben was just talking about.
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And I think if you juxtapose the tactics that they used to oppose President Trump's first
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term immigration agenda with what they're doing now, you can see how much they've evolved.
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Remember, it was mainly the congressional hearings where they were hammering these company CEOs
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to essentially divest from companies that were working with ICE.
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That's, of course, the same group that organized the anti-Doge, anti-Tesla, anti-Trump, all
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I think they're—I don't know if they're a couple, but it's a man and a woman and they're
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And if you trace the money on who's funding that stuff, we obviously exposed that they
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were reimbursing a lot of these protesters in these groups.
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I think the Trump administration needs to put their best people on actually investigating—
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In the same way, I'd put it to the Eric Swalwell thing.
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Now, we're not saying that he should just be locked up because he had an affair with the
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No, I actually want a really meaningful and thorough investigation because I would love
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to see why the MSS targeted him, how they targeted him, what they extracted out of him.
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They started at the local level, like we've exposed in the story yesterday about the mayors
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going over to China the day before President Trump meets with Xi in Busan.
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So there's a lot of layers to it where I think that it's mischaracterized what we
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It's just haphazardly throwing these people in prison.
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On MSNBC, I usually like it when our enemies are a little bit more intelligent.
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For them to say that it is pure weaponization based off of the fact that they're going after
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I think you, the fact that they, what, Joe Biden literally went after President Trump,
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I'm so glad we can agree weaponization is happening based off the people you're going
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Do you think enough time and effort, we get about a minute, enough time and effort are
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focused on the railhead of money, particularly the way the money flows through here?
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Whatever happened to the ActBlue investigation?
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We want edgy results, not edgy memes or edgy press releases.
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So for the U.S. Agency for International Development, just to put it into scope and scale, it has
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It has had bipartisan support, strong bipartisan support.
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So this was a well-established agency of some 10,000 to 14,000 staff, $40 billion in procurement
00:29:17.520
We were somewhat prepared for this administration and in other ways not prepared at all.
00:29:23.600
So ahead of the inauguration, some groups, such as our Office of Transition Initiatives, which
00:29:32.860
works specifically in countries and places that are transitioning from perhaps authoritarian
00:29:44.220
governments or wartime into more peaceful and structured, hopefully, democratic governments,
00:29:53.600
OTI has been a major player, so they pre-organized because, as Danielle said, they had organized
00:30:00.540
during the previous Trump administration to respond to the threats to our U.S. democracy.
00:30:09.540
Also terribly organized that I'm proud about is our Gender and Sexual Minorities Employee Resource
00:30:15.900
We are a cautious community and well-prepared for, we saw the writing on the wall and the
00:30:25.500
attacks that were already happening during the election cycle.
00:30:30.380
And so we had already moved our group away from the USAID main systems into signal chats
00:30:40.300
January 20th happens, inauguration, international side, certainly our USAID community has very
00:30:50.300
close relationships with locals across the entire world and have worked globally on global
00:30:59.400
This movement right now, we're very much framing it as an anti-authoritarian movement in the U.S.,
00:31:05.300
but dependent, you know, the authoritarians are networked globally, and this has our movement,
00:31:10.340
our very movement we're talking about right now, has the potential to ultimately be a global
00:31:16.020
anti-authoritarian movement given our networks.
00:31:18.980
The foment of the current constitutional crisis is our opportunity to catalyze and synergize
00:31:26.720
a dynamic change-making, a dynamic change-making fractal ecosystems capable of co-generating
00:31:34.160
the emergence of the new thriving together-based sociopolitical economic governance systems.
00:31:47.520
That's like one of the best clips we've had in a while.
00:31:50.580
Here in the war room, we are very, very, very against the sociopolitical economic governance
00:31:55.600
systems that they are plotting on these secret phone call, email, Zoom sessions that they've
00:32:08.380
If you remember back in Tampa, actually, at one of the Turning Point events there, that
00:32:12.340
was when the Notice story broke, which talked about how a lot of these USAID officials were
00:32:17.620
gathering to sort of plot and plan their opposition, basically.
00:32:23.140
So this is the one we talked about, Notice did back in July.
00:32:25.840
Where they were trying to co-opt people who were still working there to get them on their
00:32:30.880
They were passing around a CIA pamphlet called Simple Sabotage.
00:32:34.360
And one of the quotes that they gave to Notice, I remember I sent it to you and you were like,
00:32:38.320
They were literally saying, you only, like, it was very cryptic.
00:32:42.360
They're like, you only just fired a bunch of people who are experts in launching color
00:32:46.120
Now what are we going to do to the United States?
00:32:48.600
I thought USAID was about, you know, charity and soft power.
00:32:50.900
Thanks for, yet again, admitting that the war room was right.
00:32:54.100
But that is the video portion of basically what we were talking about a while ago.
00:32:59.120
And you can hear them talking about how they were setting up these, you know, encrypted
00:33:05.480
I want people to know, this is on U.S. taxpayer money.
00:33:08.280
These are people who your tax dollars used to pay the salaries of.
00:33:11.340
Openly admitting to using that time to sabotage, and then once they get fired or axed from
00:33:17.340
the job, actively sabotaging the president and trying to coerce employees who are still
00:33:25.320
That's their word, because President Trump blew them out so quickly, right?
00:33:29.920
But I think the other important thing, and it goes back to what you were talking about,
00:33:32.700
the FTO designation of Antifa, is that they're talking about how they're working with their
00:33:38.580
They're talking how they're working on this global anti-authoritarianism movement.
00:33:42.300
And what have we always honed in on here in the war room?
00:33:49.260
It's the gateway drug into opening the Pandora's box of the color revolution tactics that the
00:33:55.600
And you see that to the point where Brookings Institution's democracy playbook, it was originally
00:33:59.800
drafted for a use abroad, and then they do the 2025 edition, just days before President
00:34:04.000
Trump has sworn in, talking about how they're going to use these tactics here.
00:34:09.280
I guess they can't impeach him because they don't have the House.
00:34:12.800
But they're doing everything that they can using these outside-of-the-system kind of tactics,
00:34:18.160
Explain to the audience how you can have Republicans, because the funding of USAID is still a thing.
00:34:25.900
You still have certain members of the Republican Party, including—and I'm not blaming Marco,
00:34:31.660
but they're all saying we want to shift it over to the State Department, right?
00:34:34.740
This is what they're trying to do, to have the State Department oversee it, because it's
00:34:37.960
so many good things it does in foreign countries.
00:34:41.580
Well, because they're not—well, I guess they're neocons.
00:34:43.460
You can debate over what really a Republican is.
00:34:45.620
But look, I always approach this idea that USAID has some inherent value to it.
00:34:53.500
You cannot tell me that if you actually have an analysis of what USAID has done over the years
00:34:58.040
to advance American soft power abroad, that it does anything remotely close to what the
00:35:02.840
Chinese Communist Party has done with regards to Belt and Road, right?
00:35:05.740
Instead of giving infrastructure and ports and data centers and all that, we've been
00:35:09.440
giving really weird, woke, cultural programming.
00:35:19.100
But I also think the point, too, is that in the midst of the entire news cycle, right,
00:35:24.640
of USAID being attacked and collapsed, all the ways they framed it, they could have had
00:35:31.620
They could have had so many case studies of how effective the work that they were doing
00:35:35.840
And OK, sure, did they find a couple Trump haters to go on there, go on 60 Minutes?
00:35:39.080
I think we uncovered one of them as being a Democrat donor or something like that.
00:35:51.740
This color revolution continues to be a big problem.
00:35:58.200
It's not taken seriously enough to actually shut it down, because you see it rear its head.
00:36:01.780
And this is why I keep saying, and at that July turning point, that's when I made the
00:36:06.200
three-part—you know, the tamper resolves, you have to go after the deep state.
00:36:12.560
Your sub-stack's gotten to be amazing because of the investigative reporting.
00:36:15.660
You've got something on the sub-stack with our favorite topic, the Chinese Communist Party
00:36:19.620
and technology, and maybe some greedy Americans in the background.
00:36:25.140
Well, let's call it maybe rendition number two of the piece we were talking about just
00:36:29.880
a few days ago, having to do with U.S. tax dollars flowing to China's kind of premier
00:36:40.780
I made some calls because I said, how can we possibly be doing this?
00:36:44.040
They're using the rare earths against us, and we're actually funding the rare earth
00:36:49.440
But that fits perfectly in Chinese military code, right?
00:36:52.740
Strangling you with your own systems, subduing the enemy with what we have going on here,
00:36:59.380
That's what they did, and it always goes back to the four-year interregnum between both
00:37:02.920
Trump terms, where they shored up all the shortages that they viewed that they had from
00:37:08.780
So I guess we've got to really square up the rare stuff.
00:37:11.080
Well, it's the Lighthizer when they realized they were about to sign up for a deal that would
00:37:14.820
put them in, and so they tore it up in our faces and said nothing.
00:37:17.580
Then we got the skinny deal, and they launched the pandemic, and they never effectuated anything
00:37:26.520
In those four years under Biden, they were going to make it Trump-proof when it came
00:37:31.320
You can see they consolidated basically all their state-owned rare earth and magnet companies
00:37:35.500
into one, the China Rare Earth Group, in 2021, and they rolled hard.
00:37:39.380
And it wasn't just within the borders of China.
00:37:49.220
But the latest example, it's actually even worse in terms of who's involved and how far
00:37:55.700
We have actually been funding the state key laboratory for semiconductors, too, with funds
00:38:00.960
coming not just from the Department of Energy and the National Science Foundation, also the
00:38:05.440
Navy, the Army, DARPA, and the National Institutes of Health.
00:38:12.020
How can we—we're talking about the defense of Taiwan.
00:38:16.080
We're trying to move the plants over here to Arizona as quickly as possible.
00:38:21.000
We realize it's going to be 10 years or 15 years or 20 years.
00:38:23.880
How, at the same time, can there be a think tank or research area that they basically control
00:38:29.800
to essentially help them and that we have various institutions of the United States government,
00:38:35.060
particularly ones in national security, that are funding?
00:38:38.100
I mean, like, full stop, the Army is funding the tip of the spear of China Semiconductor War.
00:38:44.260
Is it subversion or is it just the system is so globalist?
00:38:48.900
They're such globalists and they see them as a pure competitor and not as an existential threat.
00:38:53.700
Is that the reason both in the rare earths and here in the semiconductor that the rational argument you can make is that people in here,
00:39:00.020
they're like Fauci in the Wuhan lab, the research that NIH was doing?
00:39:07.280
Well, I think China views it accurately like a Thucydides trap, a sort of Athens-Sparta-esque replacement power vibe and dynamic.
00:39:14.040
And they see that and they view us as the power that they will replace.
00:39:17.140
I think the scientists here don't view it like that.
00:39:20.540
And the decline, you know, Fauci would nevertheless near Wuhan because science was such a high temple.
00:39:25.820
It was bigger than China than the United States.
00:39:27.700
Is that the problem here with the rare earths and it's just why are these people continuing to do it?
00:39:33.080
And, hey, no offense, Pete Hegseth and Russ Vogt love you guys, but why is this not broomed?
00:39:37.880
Why would you just do an NDAA at $1.2 trillion and this is not the first thing you rip out of it?
00:39:43.880
Well, I think it goes back to all the reporting that I've done that we focused on this show.
00:39:52.160
But, I mean, if they're going after these low-level mayors, they're going all the way up to the top.
00:39:58.080
But I think that the difference, and I think you even sort of see it reflected in the MAGA ethos right now,
00:40:03.320
the Chinese Communist Party understands the inflection point of history and the time we're at.
00:40:07.380
I don't think our leaders have ever really understood that.
00:40:12.080
The Chinese Communist Party, it's not just the typical critique of that they think in decades we think in, you know, four-year terms or whatever.
00:40:20.660
They understand that rare earths, this sort of unrestricted warfare approach empirically is how they will overtake the United States.
00:40:28.400
They learned from us what happened in the graveyard of empires, Afghanistan, right?
00:40:33.820
No, no, if they have to fight foreign devils, kinetic warfare, they think that's a loss just to begin with, right?
00:40:38.760
They are going to do this, either psychological warfare, economic warfare, political warfare, the whole—
00:40:49.240
And so you're saying that that is their strategy, and they just view the West as too weak, right, to step up to it.
00:40:56.400
And you've got to admit, when you see these types of things we're funding, whether it's Wuhan Lab,
00:41:00.500
whether it's the Rare Earths Research Institute, or here on semiconductors, all three of those are primary major—they look at it as weapons of war, right?
00:41:10.940
We look at it as a way to have a group share with these guys.
00:41:15.820
They are, and even as the EMP stuff, right, the undersea cable cutters, what happens when Indopaycom is removed, doesn't have access to the mainland, right?
00:41:24.700
Think about everything that they're doing over there, right?
00:41:27.200
It's all together, and I think the MAGA connection point I was trying to make,
00:41:30.980
in the same way that our audience is sitting here frustrated that maybe they're not taking on the deep state as forcibly as they should be,
00:41:36.560
there's also just a lack of understanding that the Chinese Communist Party is our most existential threat, that they should be engaged with as such.
00:41:42.840
And, you know, in Trump 1, we saw a lot of movement against these sort of united front, almost like the human stuff, right?
00:41:50.660
Like the actual targeting people with people like Fang Fang.
00:41:57.400
You're not—if you go there, like, you're cut off.
00:41:59.660
And these groups have been kind of welcomed with open arms.
00:42:04.540
Is that the brolegarchs and the corporatists that just have much more say-so in the second term?
00:42:09.380
They want market access, but it's that they have no principles.
00:42:16.300
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So, on Zero Hedge, they had, first off, this story that Zero Hedge finally put pen to paper.
00:46:23.340
Remember, $5 trillion, AI, has to be financed for the data centers and the energy, whether it's nuclear power plants or whatever.
00:46:36.000
Of the $5 trillion, right now in the back of an envelope, Natalie, a trillion dollars is going to have to come from U.S. taxpayers.
00:46:43.620
That's why the OpenAI CFO said the other day, well, you know, we're going to have a kind of a, you know, ecosystem, and U.S. taxpayers are going to be in the middle of that.
00:46:52.000
But is this the biggest populist nationalist versus the tech bros fight that's coming right on the horizon?
00:46:58.900
Is they keep all the upside in AI, and the Grundoons are going to have, they're going to socialize the risk, and the Grundoons are going to pay for it?
00:47:07.060
Well, and $650 billion annual revenue, I think that's what they have to have in order to make it all work.
00:47:12.920
Of course, I think this is really the real reason why so many of these people have pretended to be MAGA, right?
00:47:26.900
You weren't like this when you went to Chicago.
00:47:32.580
I guess doing this show for four months will make you cynical.
00:47:35.560
When is this going to pop as like a major, because it's going to be a huge fight on our side.
00:47:43.720
I mean, I think you're already seeing it happen right now.
00:47:45.920
That's why all these people are cozying up to him, right?
00:47:49.440
It's why people are shelling out for the ballroom.
00:47:51.540
It's why, you know, this crypto weird thing is happening.
00:48:06.240
Remember, they're never forthright with it until they're caught.
00:48:10.440
They only put the website up after they're reached out to for comment.
00:48:13.060
They're only now trying to euphemize the spin of bringing public dollars in because they know that they're already there.
00:48:21.100
This is from Stephanie Rule, The Wall Street Journal.
00:48:25.180
Number one was how artificial intelligence, oh, by the way, two of the frontier companies may have reached human knowledge capacity, which is kind of a small thing, right?
00:48:33.980
And also, one of the most disturbing stories behind the scenes, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman was at Armstrong over at Coinbase, creating a genetically engineered human, a baby, to kind of drop onto the world.
00:48:49.300
This was, Stephanie Rule did a great job the other night.
00:48:53.400
Sam Altman's family office and Coinbase co-founder Brian Armstrong are backing this company, Preventive, which, as you mentioned, is conducting preclinical research to attempt to create a baby from a genetically engineered embryo to prevent a hereditary disease.
00:49:10.280
Behind the scenes, the company has told people that a couple had already been identified who was interested in participating in the research.
00:49:19.600
Okay, you also report on a plan that is meant to, quote, shock the world into acceptance on this.
00:49:29.040
Brian Armstrong, the Coinbase co-founder, floated a plan to produce this baby in secret.
00:49:39.700
I will say a spokesperson for Armstrong told us that he floated that plan only in order to point out what a bad idea it was, and he would never suggest that Preventive operate in that way.
00:49:51.720
I mean, the guy they set up to do, in secret, a genetically engineered, from a test tube, a complete baby, a human being, and just drop it on the world.
00:50:10.720
You're going to have to have it, or we're going to go down a very dark path on AI and genetic engineering.
00:50:16.000
And I might add, Claire's going to be here tomorrow with her report.
00:50:28.500
They already are trying to co-opt the Make America Healthy Again movement.
00:50:33.140
Well, and to that point, I'm just curious who has a seat at the table at the White House right now in terms of the discussions about what the path forward ahead looks like on this.
00:50:40.220
Because from the people that I've seen appointed, the David Sachs of the world, I don't know if Warren Posse got a seat at that table.
00:50:47.580
And listen, I will tell you this about those guys.
00:50:52.880
Even if you're in the room, you're not in the deal.
00:50:58.080
Natalie G. Winters on all platforms and nataliegwinters.stubsubstack.com.
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The investigations are unbelievable, and I will tell you, when a young woman like yourself knows more than the people that are supposed to be on top of these programs because they give them the research, they go, oh, my God.
00:51:19.180
We've got the Heritage Organization here with the people that focus on genetic engineering.
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