Bannon's War Room - Episode 4963： Radicalization Of The Democrats Leading Into 2026

00:00:00.000 In my case, Secretary Hegseth said, prosecute him under the Uniform Code of Military Justice for,

00:00:06.200 by the way, reciting the Uniform Code of Military Justice. It's obviously ridiculous.

00:00:12.520 But this is an attempt to silence me, to get me to not hold this administration accountable.

00:00:19.800 We have a president who doesn't understand the Constitution, who installed an unqualified

00:00:24.740 Secretary of Defense. I cannot think of a Secretary of Defense in the history of our country that is

00:00:30.820 less qualified than Pete Hegseth. He should not be in this position. He should have been fired

00:00:35.880 after Signal Gate. Now he should be fired again for this, if this is accurate. So he's not going

00:00:42.780 to get me to back down. But what he is doing is sending a very chilling message across our entire

00:00:48.740 nation, not only in the military, but the civilian workforce. Who's going to speak up and say anything

00:00:54.060 if they see something that's unlawful or see something waste, fraud, and abuse? Why would

00:00:59.660 anyone speak out if they can go and prosecute, try to prosecute a U.S. senator?

00:01:05.020 Is it happening?

00:01:06.080 Well, I don't know. I mean, I was notified. I was notified about this through a tweet,

00:01:12.300 the same tweet that you saw. And that demonstrates how unserious this administration is. They care

00:01:18.440 they care more about the publicity about this than the process or the law. I haven't been notified by

00:01:25.160 the Navy. By the Navy or the FBI. So no court martial. We got something about from the FBI. But

00:01:31.700 the thing we received from the FBI, just like the president said, saying that we should be hanged.

00:01:37.460 The thing we received from the FBI is more intimidation.

00:01:41.480 What did it say?

00:01:42.900 Well, it just said there was no point of contact. It had something about coming in for an interview.

00:01:50.720 And the question here should be, you know, why did the FBI decide to do this? Or do you think maybe

00:01:57.480 the president told the FBI director to go after these six members of Congress? So more bullying and

00:02:05.640 intimidation. But Dana, I'm not backing down. These guys don't scare me. They're not serious

00:02:11.420 people. I mean, the president of the United States and the secretary of defense.

00:02:15.300 Well, Joe, we're going to have a real series of tests now about what we mean by the rule of law in

00:02:21.160 the United States. What we mean when we say a judge, a judicial order has has standing and that

00:02:31.060 people are subject to it. And if they disobey that order, they're subject to contempt of court.

00:02:36.260 We're going to have tests of whether the rule of law applies to combat in the way that it

00:02:42.720 traditionally has across the board. We're going to see just what our legal system in the end

00:02:52.700 is worth in terms of guardrails, protections. And in the end, that will come down to our Supreme

00:02:59.900 Court, which will decide a series of key cases and set the framework certainly for the rest of

00:03:05.520 this administration. But I think for the future going forward. But it's a time in which I think

00:03:12.280 the rule of law is precious to us because we're seeing situations in which it seems to be abused

00:03:19.740 with enormous consequences for people, people shot in the water helplessly, people thrown out of

00:03:28.120 vehicles, cuffed in the situations you're describing in our cities. So it's it's a time when that clarity

00:03:35.780 is absolutely necessary. And there is the beginning, thank goodness, of a bipartisan effort to be more

00:03:42.920 serious in looking at exactly what the law says and how everybody members of the Trump administration

00:03:51.300 included are subject to it. I said something very simple and non-controversial. And Donald Trump said

00:03:59.440 I should be hanged, executed, prosecuted. Pete Hegg says that I should be court-martialed. I mean,

00:04:07.320 how ridiculous is this? We say follow the law and this is their response. These are not serious people.

00:04:12.920 And Kristen, this is meant to just intimidate us. We're sticking up for the Constitution here and

00:04:18.380 the rule of law. And they're saying these folks should be executed for doing that, doing it,

00:04:24.800 acting like they're going to own Washington forever. It's crazy. The country's been what it's been for

00:04:33.040 the last 30 years. It's basically 33 percent Republican, 33 percent Democrat and then 33 percent

00:04:38.240 independent. And we can quibble about the specificity of those numbers. But that's essentially

00:04:42.520 the reality. You live in a 50-50 country. And every time that these parties calculate like Trump

00:04:48.060 is, you can just play to your base and you can own the other side and you can leverage maximally

00:04:53.140 the power that you have. Independents say, I don't like it. I want my economy to work. I want my

00:04:58.120 health care premiums not to go up 18 percent. And I want my kids' schools not to suck. If you can

00:05:02.860 deliver on those things, I'll vote for you again. Then the party doesn't deliver on it. They get

00:05:07.900 diverted by these these topics that most people don't really care about. I don't think many people

00:05:13.200 in America were thinking about Venezuela at all unless you were from there originally. I don't

00:05:18.420 think most people are that worried about whether or not there's a drug flow coming illegally and

00:05:22.840 whether that's the number one priority of the U.S. military. When you do that. If the Republicans want

00:05:28.280 to maximize their victories in 2026, they need to have they need to go back in the way back machine

00:05:34.360 to 1992. And remember the immortal words of that great strategist, James Carville. It's the economy,

00:05:41.280 stupid, he said to to. And you've got to have an agenda that is forward looking. What are we going

00:05:46.920 to have in the way of pro growth policies that Americans will say, yeah, that'll make my family

00:05:51.720 and my community and my financial prospects better. And don't forget health care. Carville famously

00:05:58.180 said the Republicans have got to have a health care agenda. Otherwise, they're going to be in deep

00:06:03.000 trouble. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going

00:06:13.480 to medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The

00:06:20.360 people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do

00:06:24.320 everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:06:27.320 And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that

00:06:35.040 any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that

00:06:42.080 answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:06:47.680 It's Monday, this one December in the year of our Lord, 2025 strap in. It's going to be pretty intense

00:07:01.640 this morning. We've got a lot to get through. Far be it from me to agree with Karl Rove or my good

00:07:08.580 buddy, brother Kudlow over at Fox Business. But we have been preaching the gospel of the growth agenda

00:07:15.580 ever since the big, beautiful bill because guess what? You made a bet on the growth agenda and you

00:07:20.680 got to work every day nonstop to make sure the bet pays off. We're going to start at the Treasury

00:07:24.760 Department, Joe Lavagna. Look, Joe, you wrote a really incredible piece and you were out on media

00:07:30.020 late last week over Thanksgiving about affordability and the actions that Treasury and the President are

00:07:36.140 taking on that. And it's fantastic. I want to start with that. But the key to this, as we've said,

00:07:42.840 is the big, beautiful bill, the supply side tax cut coupled with President Trump's redoing of the

00:07:48.980 world's commercial relationships to drive manufacturing back to the United States.

00:07:53.900 Let's start in affordability, actions taken, and then we'll get into growth, sir.

00:07:58.480 Sure. Thank you, Steve, for having me in a belated happy Thanksgiving. On the one big,

00:08:02.320 beautiful bill, there's a few pieces to it, very important. On the CapEx expenditure side,

00:08:06.500 it allows companies permanently to deduct 100% of their capital expenditure when they invest in

00:08:13.000 computers, other sorts of technologies. That matters because it lifts productivity. With higher

00:08:17.760 productivity, you get faster wages. That increases affordability. The next piece, Steve, is the 100%

00:08:24.100 expensing for structures. That will start from the beginning of this year and go to 2028. What that

00:08:29.620 will encourage is a factory sector boom that will help us re-industrialize by creating the infrastructure,

00:08:36.280 necessary to produce the goods that people want. Those are going to entail high-paying jobs,

00:08:43.020 both the construction jobs and the people that will work in those factories. That's another way

00:08:46.780 to lift affordability. And last but not least is the no tax on TIPS and overtime. That will increase

00:08:52.820 after-tax pay. In the case of TIPS, it's about $1,700 per year extra income to households,

00:09:00.480 and on the overtime, potentially upwards of $1,800, according to CEO analysis. So if you want to deal

00:09:05.760 with affordability, what the Trump administration is doing is giving people good jobs with high wages.

00:09:13.660 Are you confident, is Treasury confident, or are you working with Commerce that, for instance,

00:09:18.840 the CapEx, that's not simply going into data centers and the energy production you need for

00:09:24.520 the data centers? Are you guys having a feel now that it actually is coming back to even more

00:09:30.640 basic manufacturing, kind of the manufacturing hegemon that we want to become or return to,

00:09:36.920 instead of just, and I'm not faulting artificial intelligence. I've got a lot of problems with

00:09:42.740 artificial intelligence. I understand you need the data centers, but is the concentration of CapEx

00:09:47.500 right now not just in data centers? Yeah. So Steve, when you look at the GDP data,

00:09:52.580 you obviously see AI-related investment very strong. However, if you also look below the surface,

00:09:59.500 you see very good spending on transit equipment, very strong spending on just business equipment

00:10:04.680 or industrial equipment. So it transcends the AI. We know from the first Trump administration,

00:10:10.320 when we had 100% expensing, it wasn't permanent then, it's permanent now, you get all sorts of

00:10:14.980 investment that give people the tools and the ability to earn more in their job. Now on the factory

00:10:20.140 incentive, which is very novel. Steve, just to give you an example, normally you would depreciate

00:10:24.200 a factory over 39 and a half years. We're going to now be able to depreciate a factory immediately

00:10:29.700 in the year it was done, and it does not include data centers. So we're very hopeful you're going to

00:10:34.520 get some good old-fashioned cyclical type of industries that create good jobs with good pay

00:10:40.380 that will protect our supply chains and rejuvenate the manufacturing sector, which has suffered

00:10:46.360 massively under the prior administration and, of course, for the bulk of the last 20-odd years.

00:10:51.980 How do you, I know it's not just GDP growth, but it's GDP growth per cap, you know, you're getting it

00:10:58.880 back to the actual individual and to the family unit. How do you avoid, I assume, in the numbers you're

00:11:04.320 looking at for the fourth quarter, which hasn't finished, and even in the third quarter, that the

00:11:09.360 government shutdown had some impact on that, on a growth rate. How do you avoid the Democrats

00:11:16.440 using that as another tool when we go back to the CR fight that's going to happen right after we get

00:11:22.600 back from the holidays? Because the CR, I think, terminates on January 20th.

00:11:28.620 So, Steve, look, in the second quarter, we take federal spending out. We grew four and a half percent.

00:11:33.700 It looks like we grew at four percent in the third quarter. Both of those quarters were private sector-led.

00:11:39.160 Both consumption and capital expenditures, in part related to the supply-side initiatives that you talked

00:11:44.760 about. Over the weekend, the spending data suggests that consumer spending accelerated this November

00:11:50.660 versus last November. There will be a hit on the government side. The Secretary's mentioned perhaps we lose

00:11:56.780 a point and a half on GDP, but we're still probably looking at a good quarter for growth, and we expect that,

00:12:03.000 Steve, to be made up next quarter. I mean, the thing about the bill that's so important is the forward

00:12:08.260 is very, very positive because you've got tax incentives that are incentivizing businesses,

00:12:14.540 encouraging businesses to spend on capital. That always leads to faster hiring and a solid economy.

00:12:21.260 You overlay that with the energy and what the administration is doing on the energy side,

00:12:24.640 where energy costs have come down dramatically. We're seeing it on the gasoline side. We're trying

00:12:29.720 to do things on the nuclear side to provide cheap and abundant energy across the board.

00:12:33.720 That's really the mix, Steve, of a very generational shift in investment and growth,

00:12:40.100 and I'm very optimistic about it, and President Trump's the person that can engineer this sort of boom.

00:12:46.540 I think you guys are very close, I understand, at Treasury, to announcing the Trump accounts.

00:12:51.000 There's also going to be not just the no tax on tips, less tax on seniors, of course,

00:12:58.720 less tax on overtime. Things are going to be announced and going to be hit, and it'll hit

00:13:02.740 when people get their tax refunds. What do you anticipate on that? Is that going to be another

00:13:07.440 infusion of cash and stimulus into the economy?

00:13:10.980 I don't want to preempt all the great news that's coming on the Trump accounts, but it's an

00:13:15.220 incredible program that's going to build wealth and raise living standards for young boys and girls

00:13:22.080 who are born. We'll get those in their Trump accounts. Broadly speaking, on the no tax on tips

00:13:29.260 and overtime, that should net upwards of about $200 billion, Steve, to folks next year. Some of it

00:13:35.540 will come in refunds, which they'll get early in the first quarter. Some of it they'll see their

00:13:40.200 after-tax income go up because they'll have lower withholding taken out, and that could be worth up

00:13:45.580 about six-tenths of GDP. So it's very encouraging, and certainly when you don't tax overtime, you're going

00:13:50.580 to encourage people to work more. You're going to incentivize people to give their hard-earned

00:13:54.100 efforts to keep more of their after-tax pay. I mean, it's a very good story that we need to

00:13:58.080 really get out and market and message more, because this is money that's going to go right

00:14:01.780 to people's pocketbooks and alleviate that affordability issue that you highlight is so

00:14:06.460 important to folks. Just hammer it every day. It's a great story, and it's being executed on.

00:14:11.520 It's starting to happen. Joe, where do people get you on the official account over Treasury

00:14:15.240 and your personal account, sir? Sure. Thank you, Steve. At Lavornianomics, and of course,

00:14:19.860 more importantly, at Sex Scott Besson, at Sex Scott Besson is a Treasury Secretary who's got

00:14:25.880 some great tweets. Thank you. He certainly does. Thank you, Joe, for starting out the week with us.

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00:16:52.620 Okay, welcome back. Matt Van Epps joins us from Tennessee 7. We're in a dogfight down there. We

00:16:58.900 couldn't have a better fighter. Matt, nine combat tours, United States Military Academy graduate

00:17:04.800 class of 2005. I think you spent 10 years in. Matt, just summarize your curriculum vitae here

00:17:13.220 before we talk about what the war on posse needs to do today.

00:17:17.320 Well, Steve, honored to be on with you. Thank you so much. We're excited. We just left a huge rally.

00:17:24.860 The president called into it. The speaker is in town. And it really, my background is one of

00:17:31.640 leadership and service. As you mentioned, West Point was a special operations aviation combat

00:17:37.940 helicopter pilot. Went on to work in small business here in Nashville as a leader. Served in Tennessee

00:17:43.420 state government. And I'm still serving in the Tennessee Army National Guard today. And that real

00:17:48.620 world boots on the ground. Leadership experience is a differentiator in this race. But it's also

00:17:55.000 the other differentiators is that my opponent is super far left, endorsed by the socialist,

00:18:00.720 does not like the district that she's trying to represent. And the contrast here could not be more

00:18:07.020 clear. And it's why I need everybody, every Republican, every American who loves freedom to get out and vote

00:18:13.680 tomorrow in the Tennessee Southern congressional district. So is there a place to go today to find

00:18:20.660 out if people are confused about their districts or places people can go, your website or people to

00:18:26.540 talk to if people want to help with a phone bank? We need a massive turnout tomorrow. I understand the

00:18:31.040 weather might be inclement. So where should people go? What should people do? So you can get that

00:18:38.020 information on my website, mattfortn.com. That's mattfortn.com. We've got election information links to the

00:18:47.140 Secretary of State's website so you can find your polling location. But that's mattfortn.com. And I

00:18:53.720 appreciate that a whole lot. Matt, just one question. Your opponent, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't she

00:19:00.600 was caught on tape saying she hated country music and she didn't like Nashville? She actually wants to

00:19:06.580 represent this district in Congress, sir? Yes, sir. That's right. She said on tape she hates Nashville. 0.93

00:19:13.840 She hates country music. But it goes even further than that. She wants to defund the police, abolish 1.00

00:19:20.140 prisons. She supports transgender surgery for minors without parental consent. And she wants new 0.99

00:19:27.400 and higher taxes to fund her socialist agenda. She's been endorsed by the Democratic Socialists of

00:19:33.360 America. So there's a whole lot there. And the distinction between the two of us could not be

00:19:39.800 more clear. Matt, one more time. This audience wants to get involved. Where do they go today?

00:19:45.960 Yes, sir. It's mattfortn.com. That's mattfortn.com. And I need everybody to get out tomorrow and vote.

00:19:54.580 Need them to fight through any bad weather, be safe. But get to the polls and let's bring this thing home.

00:19:59.740 And we're going to win decisively tomorrow. Matt Van Epps, thank you very much. A warrior and

00:20:05.140 patriot. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Thank you. Okay, Dave Bratt, you've been in this before. This

00:20:12.080 is one of these special elections, Dave. As you know, turnout is everything. MAGA and the Warren Posse are

00:20:18.480 known for turnout. So tomorrow, and the weather's supposed to be a little inclement in Nashville.

00:20:23.380 Talk to people. How important it is. It's hard to get people out. The Warren Posse with the precinct

00:20:29.660 strategy and everything else we worked on are experts at doing that. We've proven it time and

00:20:34.860 time and time again. We need this seat. We need to hold this seat. Talk to me about the motivation of

00:20:40.900 getting people out today. You should be contacting Epps' website to find all the information. But

00:20:48.160 tomorrow, we need every War Room Posse member in Tennessee 7, even if you're outside Tennessee 7,

00:20:54.600 helping people get to the polls, particularly if people are elderly. If they didn't vote early,

00:20:59.640 like I said, the weather may not be great. But that's the strength of MAGA. We're mudders,

00:21:04.940 as they say in horse racing. Dave Bratt.

00:21:06.880 Yeah, that looks like a great race. And our side sometimes thinks when you reel off the list of

00:21:15.020 horribles from the far left, you know, Marxist radical candidate that will have a win. It's

00:21:21.940 the opposite of that. They are motivated on the left by that hatred of Trump, orange man, bad still to

00:21:30.180 this day. And we need to take it seriously. So the first thing I get, get your lists, right? All of

00:21:35.660 politics is pretty simple. If your list is bigger than theirs, you win. I hope all the senators in

00:21:42.460 Tennessee are listening. Republicans don't often play well together. The left does. We need to all

00:21:49.800 blast out every list we have in his district or family members around the state to help him out in

00:21:57.560 that race. And that can be a huge help. When you have a team effort, even that goodwill spills over,

00:22:03.840 even. It just makes the Republicans, if we can ever learn to fight together, it'll be a great day.

00:22:09.640 And then everybody needs to take action, right? You all have your personal lists.

00:22:14.140 When I won my first big race, I had nothing. I had no machine. I just sent out a half page

00:22:19.580 and said, will you please forward this to all your lists? And people did it. The Tea Party groups,

00:22:24.640 the Cub Scouts, the Boy Scouts, your bowling league, whatever you're in, the Republican women

00:22:29.380 groups. Huge power, huge energy in all of those communities. If everybody, all those groups do

00:22:36.940 their part, he'll have a good win.

00:22:39.680 No, and this is, it's going to come down to this because the left has studied our game. And they've

00:22:45.740 also remember Obama, which is also about ground game. The Working Family Party and the Democrat

00:22:50.940 Socialists all understand it's about canvassing. It's going door to door. TV commercials don't hack it

00:22:57.180 anymore. If you really want to make contact, it's got to be a personal contact. People have to know

00:23:01.040 what they're talking about. Now we're kind of all past that. Now we're down to actually game day.

00:23:06.260 The Tennessee early vote, I think, ended on Wednesday. I understand we're in okay shape,

00:23:11.920 but they're turning out their votes too. We really need a big turnout tomorrow, particularly the fact

00:23:16.900 that now they're running candidates and they're getting outside money to come in and trying to

00:23:22.120 influence these races that are getting more and more radical. In Nashville, you could have 0.92

00:23:27.140 someone represent the Nashville in, or at least a big part of Nashville in Congress that hates

00:23:35.560 country music and hates Nashville. And she's on tape saying that. It's unreal, but they're going to run

00:23:42.580 more radical candidates. Their philosophy, and you see this in Newsom's, and they're having more

00:23:48.720 radical policies, right? You've seen in Newsom. I mean, the people around Newsom, I think, are saying,

00:23:53.940 hey, we blew it because we should have gone 52-0. They shouldn't have left any Republican

00:23:59.360 districts in California. That's how radical the Democrats are getting in this Trump derangement

00:24:05.180 syndrome, Dave Brat. Yeah, I'll just throw in one other thing. A lot of our side, especially MAGA,

00:24:13.120 the war room, are very sophisticated in your understanding. So it's easy to get cynical,

00:24:18.120 right? A lot of people are saying, you know, I see all this monetary stuff going on. The elites,

00:24:23.400 the globalists are still having undue power. It's kabuki theater. None of this matters,

00:24:28.640 right? Even the blue versus the red, some of it's orchestrated. Well, there's one exception to that,

00:24:34.820 and that is the election you're facing right now. That is the one place where the people get to show up

00:24:41.520 and do your job, right? And so the problem is we got about a half of Republicans sitting at home on

00:24:47.960 the couch during these elections. A half of the church is sitting at home during the elections.

00:24:52.340 That's the problem, right? We get complacent. We get so ticked off at the corruption out there in

00:24:58.840 the system. This is the one opportunity, right? It's always got to be a revolution from beneath.

00:25:05.640 That's what made this country great. If you go back to our founding or Lincoln,

00:25:09.860 it was always a revolution from beneath, not by the elites. And so I encourage you,

00:25:15.780 do everything you can, get organized, don't get cynical, right? We need to keep this going and we

00:25:21.400 need to win all the elections, this midterms, all of the lists you put together today will not be in

00:25:27.140 vain. They will come in very handy in the years to come and keep them going and have your young kids

00:25:32.740 help you with it. They're great at this stuff. By the way, you've got this Friday also, if I can pull

00:25:38.840 that, there's going to be, Turning Point is now involved and engaged in this Indiana situation.

00:25:44.320 And in fact, Turning Point is going to be back on tomorrow to talk about this. They're going to host

00:25:48.000 a rally in Indianapolis, I think in the state capitol, at noon on Friday, I think it is. We'll

00:25:53.740 get it up. This is about President Trump and redistricting. If you look right now, a lot of the

00:26:00.560 Republican establishment is sitting there and trying to thwart President Trump's plan. There's no

00:26:05.640 filibuster, there's no rule coming on our side of the filibuster in the Senate. There's no recess 0.91

00:26:10.060 appointments. They're not going to go on recess. In fact, a couple of his appointments, even at the

00:26:14.920 committee level, I'm thinking of Bridge Colby's two deputies, I think were turned out, were basically

00:26:21.120 taken off the voting schedule at committee last week where we controlled the committees. So President

00:26:26.320 Trump, the $2,000 rebate off of the tariffs, so many things he's working on policy-wise is being

00:26:35.140 thwarted right now by the Republican establishment. That's why we've got to make a stand on that. Yes,

00:26:39.720 sir. Go ahead. Yeah, but you're missing one thing. Karl Rove wrote a very important piece. You must have

00:26:46.260 missed that. He said, our side MAGA, the grassroots just make a lot of noise and do theater. But for the

00:26:53.480 serious legislation, you got to go with the rhinos over the weekend, right? So according to Karl Rove,

00:26:59.600 and so, hey, Karl, if you're listening in, I hope you get to this clip. Please show me the list of

00:27:04.980 serious legislation coming out of the House and the Senate right now, right? Please show me that,

00:27:09.320 Karl. And so I just had to throw that one in there because they're still using the same talking points

00:27:14.920 to talk down Trump that were a bunch of show horses. When I was in the Freedom Caucus, we were the

00:27:21.140 show horses. Now, in retrospect, the war room was correct about every issue we've had for the past

00:27:26.140 10 years. And more, we have more to share, but people just can't believe some of it because it's

00:27:31.200 so bad. But we were right, they were wrong, and everybody knows where the force of history is

00:27:36.040 moving, our way. Well, you see the globalists with Rovin, these guys, every policy, and you see

00:27:41.160 this right now in the Ukraine negotiations. They're sitting there with Marco Rubio, and they're

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00:30:19.060 today. Do I have David Zier over at the Pentagon? David Zier joins us from the Pentagon. So let me get

00:30:24.200 this right, Zier. Jack Posobiec, Steve Gruber, Brian Glenn, David Zier, basically the four horsemen

00:30:33.740 of the apocalypse of real America's voice. The best we got, right? The four blocks of granite

00:30:39.520 just happened to randomly be at the Pentagon this morning. Bro, tell me, please tell me what's going

00:30:45.540 on, sir. Well, we got noticed that since the mainstream media outlets wouldn't sign on to

00:30:53.440 the Pentagon's new guidelines, updating the physical control measures and access to the Pentagon,

00:30:58.600 that they were replacing them with up to 60 journalists and media here to cover the Pentagon

00:31:05.200 going forward. It's a great opportunity for RAF. We'll all be credentialed here. And there's a lot

00:31:10.820 going on. And over the next three days today, including there'll be a meet and greet this

00:31:15.340 afternoon. Tomorrow, there'll be a Northern and Southern command on classified off the record

00:31:20.120 briefing, and then a press briefing open to the press with Kinsley Wilson, the press secretary here

00:31:28.320 tomorrow. And then on Wednesday, we'll have a gaggle and some time with Pete Hegseth. And after that,

00:31:34.440 there'll be media row with 18 or so top Pentagon officials, including secretaries of the Navy and

00:31:42.040 the Army, Coast Guard, I believe. And so it'll be a busy day on Wednesday. There'll be from 2 to 4 p.m.

00:31:51.940 I believe that gaggle will take place. And, you know, there was a lot of media here that were on

00:32:00.040 escorted throughout the Pentagon for a long time here. And I think it's a way for the Department

00:32:06.760 of War to get control for, and they were, you know, around unclassified and classified rooms in

00:32:14.520 the Pentagon. Now it'll be escorts. I read the memo from September. I didn't see anything in there

00:32:20.000 that was so, you know, demanding or would abridge free speech in any way.

00:32:26.240 They want to protect. They want to run roughshod. Just like in the White House, I've always said,

00:32:32.280 get them out of, they're right next to the Oval Office. You've seen it. There's like a nest of

00:32:36.140 vipers right there below it. It should be over in EOB. It should be actually outside the West Wing,

00:32:42.480 just like they're trying to get control. What are you hearing? You know, there's conversation,

00:32:46.780 there's talk that President Trump actually talked to Maduro over the week, gave him an ultimatum,

00:32:51.240 which said, hey, you either leave with your entourage, or we're going to force you to leave.

00:32:55.800 I know a lot of MAGA, non-interventionists, they want President Trump to handle this

00:33:00.460 without sending in the fleet Marines or doing bombing runs. What are you hearing? Now that you've

00:33:08.060 signed the document, you're going to be a good boy. What are you actually hearing over there?

00:33:14.460 Well, nothing yet as of today. I'm just getting my feet wet over here. And I know that Tim Kaine

00:33:20.440 is reintroducing his resolution to not allow any forced abuse without congressional approval

00:33:26.260 down in Venezuela there. But it was interesting, you know, Sean Parnell has been very outspoken as

00:33:33.140 the chief Pentagon spokesperson saying that, you know, these guys are running around here basically

00:33:37.800 to power phrase him, even outside of these classified areas. And moving forward, they want these

00:33:44.040 escorts for them. But these are pragmatic changes to operational security here, Steve,

00:33:51.640 and to bring the Pentagon in line with other government buildings. So it's a new era here for

00:33:58.560 independent and some conservative media outlets here. I saw groups like Town Hall on there, James O'Keefe,

00:34:06.900 the Gateway Pundit, and others. But we're gathered here in one of the briefing rooms.

00:34:10.620 So we're just getting situated here. The next two days, I'll be bringing you more info.

00:34:17.260 Okay, David, thank you. Where do people go for your content, sir? Where do they go on Twitter?

00:34:25.400 I'm at Dave Zier on Twitter and David Zier on everything else. And thank you so much. And

00:34:31.640 we're very excited to be here this week. It's going to be a great opportunity for Rav.

00:34:36.340 We got, yes, it's fantastic. We have Poso setting up. Steve Gruber's there. I think actually our own

00:34:43.000 Brian Glenn might have headed back to the White House. We'll grab him as soon as we can get him.

00:34:47.240 Dave Bratt, you got Venezuela. You know, President Trump has given an ultimatum to Maduro. A lot of

00:34:55.100 people are saying, hey, can we give them ultimate? Can we give the same ultimatum to the governor of

00:34:59.480 Colorado to say, hey, you either cough up Tina Peters from prison, or we're going to send the 82nd

00:35:06.160 Airborne in to collect her? I mean, people, look, it's this trade-off between international affairs,

00:35:14.380 global affairs. I understand he's trying to stop the Third World War. But I didn't like what I was

00:35:18.620 hearing out of these negotiations, particularly Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio came out and said, and on

00:35:24.940 video said, hey, our number one thing to the Ukrainian people is to make sure that never 1.00

00:35:29.560 again do you have wars. Yo, bro, note to Marco Rubio, they've been fighting wars over there for

00:35:35.120 5,000 years, and it ain't going to stop. But we can't, this is my problem. We can't give these over

00:35:40.540 the top discussions and then say we're going to give a guarantee. We cannot guarantee the sovereignty

00:35:46.440 Ukraine. We cannot give a security guarantee for Ukraine. Those people have been fighting for 5,000

00:35:50.600 years. And particularly when Yermak, who ran the government, is now running and trying to find and

00:35:56.260 getting an exit, he's either going to go to the front and try to slip out that way or go into exile.

00:35:59.980 The number one guy that ran the government that you and Poso and Raheem Kassam and everybody would

00:36:05.620 hammer on for years how corrupt they finally at least kick down the doors of his house to say,

00:36:10.600 we know you stole at least 100 million. The guy stole tens of billions. That is the government.

00:36:15.980 That's the type of people you're going to be guaranteeing. I just think President Trump has got a

00:36:20.220 domestic agenda and an international. Obviously, the international and domestic are inextricably

00:36:25.200 linked. There's no question about that. And he was handed a mess. And he's trying to stop it and

00:36:31.440 pivot to hemispheric defense. But there are limits about what you can do. Biden and the globalists

00:36:36.820 have screwed this thing so much. Let their globalist partners in Europe figure it out. Those guys started

00:36:42.720 at President Trump, had nothing to do with it. President Trump, they would never happen on his watch.

00:36:47.720 It didn't happen on his watch. As soon as he was gone, they started rolling. He's left with this

00:36:53.320 mess. But to get ourselves even more entangled with the worst people on Earth, which are the

00:36:59.940 political class of Ukraine, which is just as corrupt as the wait for it political class of NATO,

00:37:05.700 to get involved in that and for Marco to come out and say, our priority is to make sure you're never

00:37:10.820 at war again. Dude, grab a history book and just read a couple of pages, man. They've been fighting for

00:37:16.460 5,000 years. It ain't called the bloodlands for nothing, right? So, Brett, what are you? And the

00:37:23.040 president's got such a big domestic agenda. And Karl Rove doesn't need to tell the president about

00:37:27.180 growth. The president knows that. That's why he set up the big, beautiful bill as a supply-side tax

00:37:32.180 cut. Look, we didn't love all the bill, right? But the supply-side part of it, bringing manufacturing

00:37:37.420 jobs back because you got one chance. On Trump's watch, we got one chance to return ourselves

00:37:42.540 to being a manufacturing superpower. Dave Bratt. Yeah, I think the last point you made is the

00:37:49.580 most important. This is the last chance to turn it back. There's so many things at work here,

00:37:55.740 right? The Democrats in all their elections speak about democracy and the value of democracy,

00:38:00.660 and Trump's not in favor of democracy. How in the world does Zelensky have leverage of this type when

00:38:10.100 he's not an elected leader right now? There's no democracy in Ukraine. And then we got over $300

00:38:16.800 billion going there. And MGT and everybody's been asking for an audit. We can't get an audit of our

00:38:24.680 own money, $300 billion spent of American funding for Ukraine and the war, and we don't know where the

00:38:31.340 money went. And now there's a corruption scandal to the extent that the number two guy has to step down,

00:38:37.220 and he's probably the number one guy running the country in Ukraine. And then there's several other

00:38:42.320 things going on at the same time, right? You got the globalists and our side always knows about the

00:38:46.480 Kabuki theater I was talking about earlier. When things make no sense, that means there's billionaires

00:38:51.360 way up there that are making deals. And then even our own team is going to have some complicating

00:38:57.880 factors, right? The rare earths over there, the minerals, the oil, the agricultural productivity,

00:39:04.300 you know, that's probably part of the negotiating. But how in the world Zelensky still has any voice

00:39:11.420 as the democratically elected, right? When we say, we've fought the whole war for them, right? I mean,

00:39:17.980 it's without the U.S., there'd be nothing. And so why don't we, why we don't get to make the final

00:39:22.580 play call here on Zelensky? And, you know, right now we're negotiating over, you know, Zelensky should

00:39:28.460 offer up some territory to the Russians as a goodwill gesture. And we're not sure if his pride

00:39:33.800 or ego will allow for that. Are you kidding me? The United States is asking questions to Zelensky?

00:39:40.780 That part makes absolute no sense unless other factors are involved, the economic piece.

00:39:46.620 We're probably trying to make a long run deal with Putin that makes sense. But the security

00:39:55.020 guarantees, that's what the whole war was about. And our globalist leaders, the head of our

00:40:02.000 institutions, you know, the thing they're forgetting about is part of this war is initiated upon the U.S.

00:40:09.780 request. We're the ones that were in on the coup in 2014 that removed Ukrainians' leader. We're the

00:40:16.180 ones that have moved the border eastward and 17 other countries. Hang on. This is why Flynn came on

00:40:21.920 Saturday. The same color, the Victoria Nuland and the same color revolution crowd in our government 0.86

00:40:27.640 that drove this thing in 2014 when basically when I was at Breitbart and Raheem Kassam broadcast live

00:40:34.280 from there on Breitbart radio every day when he saw the importance of it. Quite frankly, I kind of

00:40:39.920 missed it at the time, right? The color revolution being driven by these globalists inside the American

00:40:45.260 government are the exact same people today, Brennan being the head of it, that are running the color 1.00

00:40:50.540 revolution around President Trump. And this is why for President Trump's safety and security,

00:40:55.860 we shouldn't be carrying their water. Marco Rubio, no, we are not going to guarantee, what you said is

00:41:03.020 absolutely fundamentally wrong. We are not guaranteeing there are not going to be any wars forever for

00:41:08.620 the Ukrainian people. Full stop. Even, you said, well, maybe it was a slip of the tongue. How does it even 0.84

00:41:14.240 come out of your brain? It's not possible and we can't be involved in it. That's too big a commitment

00:41:20.260 for the United States. When President Trump sent ICE into New York, they had a riot on Saturday.

00:41:27.580 Finally, we sent ICE in and you saw the response. They're going to riot. They're going to try to

00:41:31.700 shut it down. We have 15 to 20 million illegal alien invaders in our country. Therefore, we do not have 1.00

00:41:38.980 our own sovereignty. That is going to be one of the nastiest pushes ever to take care of that and you see

00:41:45.560 this happening. That's a priority. Guarantee the sovereignty of the people of the United States,

00:41:50.760 Marco. Don't worry about Ukraine. And if that's what it takes to get a deal done, then guess what?

00:41:55.320 There ain't going to be a deal done. And the Russians, there you are right there. Thank you 0.99

00:41:58.200 very much, Denver. Look at that. It's a freaking riot. That's in the greatest city in the world,

00:42:03.000 New York City. This is what's happening. We don't have the ability to guarantee everybody's

00:42:08.480 sovereignty. Let's start with folks in the United States of America, our beloved country,

00:42:12.640 and American citizens. If this is the price that goes to Ukrainian peace, hello, they're not going

00:42:18.580 to have peace. They haven't had peace in 5,000 years. And as soon as they understand that the

00:42:23.460 Russians are going to take Odessa eventually with another 500,000 Ukrainian casualties, maybe their 0.58

00:42:29.300 European masters out of Brussels and London and Paris will start to get the word. But it's not the

00:42:34.620 American people's fault. Brett, hang on for a second. I think we had a very special announcement. 1.00

00:42:38.960 Something we're going to do. We're going to try to do Saturday. We had to call Audible.

00:42:41.720 That's why we had a live show with General Flynn. I want to thank General Flynn for coming in. It

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00:44:29.040 Okay, for Saturday we had scheduled and we shifted up because so much was going on and the

00:44:39.340 woman posse wanted to get an update so we had a live show. We had an interview with Sam Tannenhaus,

00:44:46.300 the legendary Sam Tannenhaus, about the revolution that Bill Buckley started and led, the conservative

00:44:52.620 revolution in this country. We're in the next hour we're going to start that interview. You're not

00:44:58.140 going to want to miss this. This is one of the great writers in the country about a great man, Bill

00:45:01.600 Buckley, understanding that the populist nationalist movement has a lot of issues with things like

00:45:07.040 national review. But Bill Buckley was a great man and did many great things including initiating a

00:45:13.140 revolution with Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. And I think you'll find Tannenhaus, who by the way

00:45:20.960 also wrote a magnificent biography of Whitaker Chambers, one of the great, great individuals

00:45:26.520 about lived Christianity in the 20th century. Dave Brant, your thoughts about all that, sir?

00:45:34.260 Yeah, I just want to go back to Ukraine. The best way to give Ukraine security guarantees is to have a

00:45:42.120 detente with Russia. And, you know, this isn't the Cub Scouts talking. We're the same crew of real

00:45:48.720 politics that's been referring to Mearsheimer and power on power, real politics referenced by Kennedy

00:45:56.040 and the rise and fall of great powers and all this. So this is not some glib statement, but to have a

00:46:01.900 detente with Russia, a relaxing over the long run, then maybe friendships, then maybe two Christian 0.71

00:46:07.760 countries that are on the same side with Ukraine. And then the deep state goes bye-bye. And then we can

00:46:15.340 finally shift some resources toward China. Who does not know what human rights are?

00:46:22.660 I've got to tell you, a detente with the Russians to unite the Christian nations against the 0.91

00:46:28.520 murderous plague of atheistic Marxism, and that's what the Chinese Communist Party is.

00:46:34.120 Their biggest victims are Lao Baixing. I think there's 100 million Christians,

00:46:39.060 some traditional Catholics, most evangelical Christians that are in China today that are

00:46:45.660 the prosecuted church or the prosecuted church in the worst way. As we know, the church always

00:46:52.080 thrives under times of persecution, like it did at the beginning, foundation of our religion,

00:46:57.160 and then through the ages. So I agree with you, Dave. I think it's time. And I think it's time.

00:47:01.660 We've got to stop. We can't give security guarantees to everybody. We can't give all these

00:47:05.280 security guarantees in the Gulf. We can't give all these security guarantees for Israel and

00:47:11.420 sovereignty guarantees. We've got to get the sovereignty of the United States right. And this

00:47:15.720 is why I'm fully supporting Laura Loomer and the folks that are fighting for saying, hey, Israel should 0.99

00:47:20.340 just declare its own sovereignty, not take our cash, and go do their own thing, which I 100% support.

00:47:26.140 But I think in this Ukraine situation, the kind of hiding the football on what the reconstruction is

00:47:32.680 going to be and who's going to pay the money, because the United States does not have it. We do not have

00:47:36.740 it. That money's got to be here in the United States of America. And you saw on Saturday, you saw this

00:47:43.160 situation with sending ICE into New York City, which I think is a shot across Mondani's bow to say, hey, look,

00:47:48.720 you're an Ugandan Marxist jihadist who is, quite frankly, not quite a naturalized citizen since you lied on 0.91

00:47:55.260 your forums. Send a shot across his bow. We're not going to allow you to be a sanctuary city. You can't have

00:48:00.720 New York City as a sanctuary city. It's the greatest city in the world. The greatest city in the United

00:48:04.580 States has been really since our founding, since the founding of the Republic has always been even

00:48:09.300 more than Philadelphia and Boston, the central financial and commercial capital of the United

00:48:14.540 States. You can't allow it to be taken over by illegal aliens. And you saw what happened on 1.00

00:48:19.280 Saturday when they sent ICE in for a just kind of a mini raid. It was an outright riot. They were

00:48:25.340 trying to hurt the ICE officials. They were trying to block all of the folks.

00:48:30.560 They were rolling up. And, you know, and they say there's 8 million people in New York City.

00:48:35.440 There's millions of illegal alien invaders up there, and they all got to go home. Closing thoughts 1.00

00:48:41.280 day, Brett. Yeah, just a minute on what you just said right there is very powerful about the

00:48:47.340 persecution of Christianity. Everyone, you know, Alistair McIntyre wrote a great book,

00:48:53.240 Brief History of Ethics. It's not an ethics book, but he talks about the transition from Rome,

00:48:58.540 the brutality of Rome and the Caesars and the crucifixions, etc. And in comes a man named Jesus

00:49:05.520 Christ who preaches love and offers hope to the poor. That is shocking, and that is history-making

00:49:13.640 when you see that was the gestalt change, right, from Caesar to the message of Jesus. And that's

00:49:21.000 happening in China right now. The brutality, and in comes a man named Jesus preaching love of God,

00:49:28.540 some hope on this earth. And in this country, if you don't think there's Christian persecution going

00:49:34.600 on, you're not paying attention. When you can't bring a Bible to school or mention Christianity

00:49:39.320 in public and polite conversation with a wine and cheese crowd, and when the CEOs can't talk about

00:49:44.760 their faith and Christianity in public, that's a problem.

00:49:47.820 Dave Brett, where do people go on social media to get you? This is going to be an intense week.

00:49:54.920 There's things happening all over the globe, and particularly things happening in the United

00:49:58.100 States and things happening on Capitol Hill with artificial intelligence. It's going to be a

00:50:01.420 big artificial intelligence gathering this afternoon. I'm going to be at six with Joe Allen.

00:50:08.440 We're going to cover all of it because artificial intelligence is going to have a huge week this

00:50:11.760 week. Make sure, also, Matt Van Epps, running in Tennessee 7, needs your support. We got to go

00:50:18.920 all in on this thing. We need to hold that seat. Dave Brett, your social media brother.

00:50:24.020 Yeah, Brett, economics on getter. But more importantly, go help the candidate and help the

00:50:29.480 war room by spreading the war room into platforms. It's on to all your friends and neighbors as well.

00:50:34.160 Steve doesn't like doing the salesman thing, so I'm doing it for him. Spread the war room.

00:50:37.980 I like that, Brett. Brett, I like that, man. He's selling. He's good. He's very good. Dave

00:50:42.400 Brett, love you, brother. He's going to be riding shotgun as much as we can this week. Thank you so

00:50:46.580 much down there at Liberty. Great institution. So, very special. Sam Tannenhaus, hang on. You're

00:50:53.660 going to learn everything about the revolution, the conservative revolution in this country,

00:50:58.600 including Nixon, Goldwater, Reagan, all of it. Take a short commercial break. We're going to return.

00:51:04.760 Also, this afternoon, Natalie Winters, a blockbuster. Natalie Winters has a blockbuster

00:51:11.160 related to the Chinese Communist Party. Let's say that way. And Natalie Winters will be back

00:51:15.540 at 5 o'clock. At 6, we're going to do artificial intelligence. There's an event that's going to

00:51:21.600 happen at the Capitol today. Joe Allen's going to be there. Joe Allen's going to join us. We're

00:51:26.360 absolutely packed throughout the day. Make sure tomorrow at 11 o'clock, there's going to be a

00:51:31.780 cabinet meeting. President Trump is convening his cabinet. I'm sure he's going to have a couple

00:51:36.400 of three things to say and maybe even update on what's going on in what's going on in Venezuela.

00:51:42.740 Everybody as a carrier battle group, strike force, amphibious ready group, I think 14,000,

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Bannon's War Room - December 01, 2025

Episode 4963： Radicalization Of The Democrats Leading Into 2026

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