Bannon's War Room - December 23, 2025


Episode 5018: President Trump's Massive Economic Success


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On this episode of War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon sits down with Glenn and Steve from Embrace Grace, a conservative mobile operator that has been a long-time supporter of the conservative movement. They talk about the company's support of conservative causes, the Jason Aldean tour, and their plans for the future of the company.

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00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to
00:00:09.900 medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people
00:00:16.500 the people have had a belly full of it I know you don't like hearing that I know you try to
00:00:20.520 do everything the world to stop that but you're not gonna stop it it's going to happen and where
00:00:24.180 do people like that go to share the big line mega media I wish in my soul I wish that any of these
00:00:31.960 people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to
00:00:39.520 save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host Stephen K. Bannon
00:00:47.460 it's Tuesday 23 December year of order 2025 we're packed today we're gonna be packed tonight
00:00:56.280 for a couple hours tomorrow we're gonna be live from both Bethlehem uh in uh in Rome um in Israel
00:01:04.360 and Rome we're gonna be doing the Vatican and uh and uh Bethlehem hopefully we'll get near the church
00:01:10.080 we're gonna be a major square but hopefully get near the church because it's gonna be
00:01:12.920 I think um I there there are some there are some pilgrims there and there's some tourists
00:01:17.740 we're gonna hopefully get close to the um to the church of the nativity but we'll get all that
00:01:22.760 tomorrow on the morning show uh Glenn's story so Glenn um first off for the Jason Aldean you guys
00:01:28.720 sponsored that I keep hearing about the tour people had a great time he was a huge hit obviously at AmFest
00:01:34.360 um talk to me about it why did you why did you sponsor the Jason Aldean tour what was what was your
00:01:39.920 task and purpose in doing that hey Steve how are you doing okay we have I'm doing a lot better now
00:01:50.840 that you cut your you took yourself off mute mute it does work a little bit better but hey this is
00:01:58.180 the first time we've ever come out of my office we're usually in the control room but our whole team
00:02:03.600 was bringing back our studio from uh TPUSA uh tell me about how did you guys have a good uh a good AmFest
00:02:14.020 yeah it was awesome I mean I think it might have been the best AmFest I've been to
00:02:19.320 you know in light of what was going on with Charlie and you know I think it's galvanized a lot of us and
00:02:26.520 you you just look at the movement and everything that you see going on and you know I think there
00:02:32.560 was 30,000 plus folks that visited and you know I think we probably had about half of them come by
00:02:40.740 our booth we had thousands of signups it was just incredible I want to talk about that because you
00:02:48.340 guys are known as the uh as the uh mobile operator that has backed this movement from the beginning
00:02:53.780 you've got everybody's back on all the major causes whether it's life or second amendment uh you
00:02:58.840 know EMTs all of it you're a huge sponsor of some of the best the best shows a big a big sponsor for
00:03:05.460 real America's voice uh as we hammer things out here at RAV and also at War Room uh talk to me about
00:03:11.060 that talk to me about the commitment you guys have made and what does 2026 look like
00:03:14.720 you know that's what really separates us we're the original we've been at this for 13 years
00:03:21.640 and our goal was really to support the conservative movement and and glorify God in everything we do
00:03:28.960 and so we have four pillars first amendment second amendment right to life and military and first
00:03:34.920 responders and the the real separator though is not only do we contribute to these organizations
00:03:41.400 and this year we donated more than any time in company history but it's that we put God first and
00:03:47.900 we look at this as biblical principles right and we say hey what would what are we supposed to do to
00:03:53.340 honor and glorify our God and that's really donate these organizations and you know I have a note from
00:04:00.020 somebody that came in and said I just want to thank you I was going to Planned Parenthood have an abortion
00:04:06.620 and there was this little box that Embrace Grace provided and in that box was a onesie and all this other
00:04:13.340 stuff and this particular mom-to-be read it and it changed her life she goes I never knew there was a support
00:04:20.180 network out there like this and so you think about it we try to touch lives we save lives and and we love
00:04:28.520 you know we're the party of love we're a company of love
00:04:31.100 what um you guys get a lot of grief too for being such a sponsor of uh the conservative movement and
00:04:41.180 particularly MAGA talk to me about that yeah we do I mean it's kind of interesting when you take a
00:04:47.660 stand and you say hey this is who we are and this is what we do and especially when you say you're a
00:04:54.340 conservative and you're a believer in Christ all of a sudden you have this giant target on your back
00:05:00.260 and you know what God said it's not going to be easy but he will always be with us and Steve you know
00:05:06.880 that very well the the you know it extremely well they came after you for your beliefs and your
00:05:12.700 commitment to truth what about uh so the service talk to me people want to know how to make the
00:05:20.500 switch uh because we try to make things as frictionless as possible here in the war room when
00:05:26.380 they go and call your site 972 patriot they're going to talk to as you guys say uh a hillbilly with
00:05:31.860 an east texas accent an american citizen walk through the process of how you actually because
00:05:37.380 you say hey Steve I'm not a hillbilly I'm a redneck it's different what what what's the actual
00:05:42.420 process how do people get over the fear that hey my phone's my connection for everything if I go with
00:05:47.380 these guys I love what they do I love what they stand for but they're going to drop I'm not going
00:05:51.420 to be able to talk to anybody and therefore I can't run my business or follow my family sir
00:05:56.220 yeah yeah Steve we make it as simple as possible let's just say you have a contract with another
00:06:03.620 carrier hey we'll reimburse you and give you free credit for the time that you've been I mean
00:06:10.660 anything that you owe but here's the real difference you call 972 you talk with somebody
00:06:15.860 in our corporate offices either in east texas california wherever and then you sign up and you
00:06:21.600 got to always use steve bannon as your promo code because I believe that gives you a free month
00:06:26.860 and in addition to that here's the real beauty though your your cell phone is something that
00:06:32.760 everybody has and it's easy to switch we merely send you a qr code or a sim card you drop it into
00:06:40.580 your phone you don't lose your number as a matter of fact you keep it you keep the same phone do
00:06:45.420 whatever you want or if you want to buy a new phone very simple but at the end of the day if you get
00:06:51.440 service today we can do it not only do we do it better because of our our customer service but
00:06:59.120 also because we're buying a premium level of service it's better than what you can go in and
00:07:05.060 buy at the retail store and I'll tell you you know it because we had I guarantee we had thousands
00:07:11.060 people that came by the booth many of them were existing customers and they said look I didn't I
00:07:16.700 haven't missed a beat it was so simple and I said let me let me get you on bannon because
00:07:21.060 you tell the story better than I do
00:07:23.380 where do people go today people are in the in the christmas spirit the holiday spirit they know
00:07:30.780 that you've had the back of all these different shows and institutions and movements we got a lot
00:07:35.680 more we're going to talk about what's happening in january we're working with you guys very closely
00:07:39.260 on something very important about uh this this really crisis that's building in the great state
00:07:45.600 of texas about uh the invasion of islam particularly radical islam uh where do people go right now to go
00:07:52.320 talk to somebody and get the details yeah you go to patriot mobile.com forward slash bannon use the
00:08:00.100 promo code and you get a free uh smartphone and then i before i go there i want to say hey if you own a
00:08:06.780 business we have business plans uh set up for small business all the way up to large businesses we have
00:08:14.500 them up in the thousands and you get i you get a good redneck customer service rep that manages your 0.81
00:08:21.080 account and a team behind them and you know your promo is the ford slash bannon and you get that free
00:08:28.620 smartphone or you if you want a high high-end phone we'll get it for you
00:08:33.440 perfect so where do you go one more time 972 patriot what's the uh promo code bannon and what
00:08:41.100 is the where do they go on online patriot mobile.com forward slash bannon and hey before we go i want
00:08:48.780 to say merry christmas to all the war room posse we love you we love our savior and and you guys are
00:08:54.960 making this happen so and and thank you to all of our existing customers we just have an incredible
00:09:00.380 business because of y'all and we're able to donate more and more money every year as we grow especially
00:09:06.780 no because you give x percent of your profits back to support these groups can i get a commitment now
00:09:14.180 from you when i come to texas for these events we're going to do can can we hang out together i don't get
00:09:19.320 big legged when you get a when you get a big country music star uh because i i only saw i only saw you
00:09:25.400 i only saw you in amfest this time when you came and did the show and normally we hang out a lot you
00:09:30.300 know really it hurt my feelings but i i'm a tough guy i can get over it but just in just in january
00:09:36.440 you know hey did you i hope you got to see it because it was really a good interview about two
00:09:43.640 minutes before we went on stage i said hey they said by the way you got to go out and talk about
00:09:48.260 patriot mobile for two or three minutes and you know i don't like to talk and i love to hang out with
00:09:53.500 people that are a lot smarter which is often and so uh that's why i like to hang out with you steve
00:09:59.220 and and jason as well and britney
00:10:01.960 no it was great the interview was great uh 972 patrick call right now talk to a texas uh citizen
00:10:10.560 of the united states of america that's going to walk you through everything all the business uh aspects
00:10:15.340 uh accounts and everything you do glenn story merry christmas sir thank you for joining us today
00:10:20.780 appreciate you love your team have a blessed day and merry christmas to y'all
00:10:25.740 thank you uh the patriot mobile team legendary how what good people they are and how they back
00:10:33.540 people love working with them speaking of working with them rosemary jenks the new york first off out
00:10:40.740 at amfest i want you talking a little bit about the data that came out of the young people out there
00:10:44.420 uh also the new york times is now awakened to the fact or something we were working on for years
00:10:49.000 this is the issue of not just illegal immigration which the president is moving heaven and earth to
00:10:54.100 to get on top of the mass deportations which people at amfest will show you that it's one of
00:10:59.400 their top priorities but also legal immigration new york times we had natalie winters on last night 1.00
00:11:04.360 uh breaking this story down walk me through what are we doing when are we going to get a 10-year
00:11:09.420 moratorium on legal immigration to get the uh because this is where you're going to really kick in with
00:11:13.920 the economy this is going to get a massive explosion in wages uh jobs etc what do you got for us today
00:11:19.560 rosemary jinx yeah steve it's so funny because all of the stories that are coming out in the mainstream
00:11:26.020 media the new york times included talk about how you know economists are worried because stopping or
00:11:33.700 reducing legal immigration or reducing h1bs is going to increase the cost of labor well yeah because 1.00
00:11:41.740 employers are going to have to actually pay americans american wages that's the whole point
00:11:47.920 so i mean it's it's just ludicrous to to think that you know we need to essentially pay slave labor
00:11:55.580 to do all these various jobs in the united states when we have plenty of americans and guess what if
00:12:01.560 those americans are not employed we're paying for them on welfare so one way or another we have to pay 0.83
00:12:09.040 we're either paying for them on welfare or we're paying for foreign workers to replace them 1.00
00:12:13.120 or employers are paying wages that americans can actually live on and that is critical so one of
00:12:20.700 the things that happened i think it was after the end of the uh amfest that this was released was a
00:12:27.080 poll showing that 90 i think it was 90 percent uh want an immigration moratorium and that is huge
00:12:35.740 and republicans in congress and the white house need to pay attention to this this is a massive issue
00:12:42.920 and i will tell you steve if we are able to you know in in some way massively restrict the h1b visa
00:12:51.160 americans are going to find out that there are a plethora of other visas that also reduce their wages
00:12:58.980 and displace them from jobs so fixing the h1b is great eliminating the h1b is great but it's not 0.87
00:13:07.200 going to solve the whole problem because our legal immigration system is massively out of control and
00:13:12.840 has been for the last 50 years we're going through an awakening me first off you had you got hunter
00:13:20.020 biden giving an interview where he's dumping all over his father's invasion plan you know for the
00:13:25.600 illegal aliens hunter biden gets it he's he's sitting there walking through what a disaster
00:13:30.580 wasn't how it brought down biden's president which is the centerpiece of his presidency
00:13:34.100 but and so the american people have come and waken to that and that's why president trump went and
00:13:39.320 shut the border down understanding this thing was very organized it's the reason one of the reasons
00:13:44.200 they stole the election from trump is a very organized invasion of our country now the awakening is
00:13:49.560 something we've been hammering for years and rosner has been hammering for i don't know the 10 plus
00:13:53.920 years that we've had her in both breitbart radio news and um in in the war room it's legal immigration 0.93
00:14:00.420 we need to have a moratorium the the quote-unquote legal immigration is another scam the the the and 1.00
00:14:07.200 i'm not even saying h1b is the scammiest it's the one we got to take care of first it's a total scam 1.00
00:14:12.360 a complete scam it's got to be shut down all of it folks sent home and those billets open up for 0.86
00:14:17.260 americans but you can tell an amfest 90 percent of people want a moratorium on legal immigration
00:14:24.360 so this whole thing that you go on tv and we're a nation of immigrants and i support legal immigration
00:14:29.520 not illegal that is more phony totally phony republican uh talking points of people that are
00:14:36.080 owned by the donors owned by the corporations owned by silicon valley owned by wall street
00:14:41.620 the people are speaking this is a populist revolt they want a 100 moratorium that means nobody
00:14:49.800 in here quote-unquote on the legal side short commercial break rosemary jenks joe allen on the
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00:17:00.900 the movement okay welcome back um it's a process this process of uh stopping uh illegal immigration
00:17:11.780 and president trump's doing now we've got to get to the mass deportation side but sealing the border
00:17:15.780 beginning to get the bad hombres out of course overwhelming support at amfest and other places
00:17:20.640 to continuing mass deportations at the top of the list we are we are having a tectonic plate shift
00:17:26.960 folks because all the time you go on fox you see all these phony republicans out there
00:17:31.220 well i'm all for illegal immigration and you know we're a nation of immigrants and america's an idea
00:17:36.320 all that crap um nothing can be farther from the truth we have a massive problem it's a scam
00:17:41.780 because we don't have capitalism in this country we have corporatism and all the time and when they
00:17:46.880 talk about the you know the h1b is excited they said yeah you know the problem is cost of labor is
00:17:50.460 going are you damn right it could go up because you're going to be paying american citizens not
00:17:55.040 indentured servants that are coming from south asia and from china they're going to work for a third of
00:18:00.500 the cost and and have to live be forced to live tend to a house because they're trying to work for a
00:18:05.160 green card uh and i keep telling these guys on the on that we'll get to this in the ai part next
00:18:10.260 that if you want to make sure china is not a competitor then cut off the chips cut off the 0.93
00:18:15.640 capital cut off the student visas cut it all off just choke them down did we choke it down in the in 0.97
00:18:22.560 the cold war you damn right we choked it down why are we not choking down now why are we why is it we
00:18:27.000 letting the tech bros basically finance and train and give chips to our greatest enemy in this this is
00:18:34.360 why everything they say about ai and the control of ai is a total bald-faced lie and a lot of it
00:18:40.160 gets back to the situation of you know they need to have your betters which are foreign engineers all
00:18:45.560 crap right uh to come uh to come here and take your job so this is a seismic plate shift trust me
00:18:52.360 smart people rosemary jenks looked at that number of amfest and they're sitting there you don't see a
00:18:57.740 lot of the mean you know national review and all these neon fox all these neoliberal neocons don't want
00:19:02.660 to talk about but they are stunned by that number young people this new greatest generation 0.65
00:19:07.820 that has been so abused by the system are starting to awaken to the fact that everything they've been
00:19:14.100 fed on we're a nation of immigrants america's an idea uh you know i support legal immigration just
00:19:20.020 not illegal that doesn't hack it anymore we want a moratorium on all immigration until we get american 0.92
00:19:26.300 people get good jobs and good pay and we get this country going the right way rosemary jenks the floor
00:19:31.840 is yours ma'am well i i think it it just makes sense steve we've had too much for too long 50 years
00:19:39.280 of mass immigration is too much when americans can look around and see you mentioned earlier the
00:19:45.640 problem with islam americans see this coming into their communities the somali welfare fraud that you 0.94
00:19:53.240 know there are so many the afghans killing americans there are so many aspects of mass immigration you 1.00
00:20:01.800 know we look at europe and we make fun of them and like how could that ever happen how did they ever
00:20:05.940 let that happen to themselves we're doing the same thing here it has to stop people are fed up people
00:20:13.920 want to be able to recognize their community as an american neighborhood that's not too much to ask this is
00:20:20.940 our country america is for americans our immigration policy must serve americans interests not corporate
00:20:30.100 interests not big ag not big religion not any of the other things americans interests must be served
00:20:37.300 by this public policy that hasn't been the case for 50 years we need to have this moratorium and get our
00:20:45.560 house in order and then we can figure out exactly how many and who we need to bring in if any but right
00:20:53.000 now it's simply too much it has to stop um how do people they want to get involved they want to get
00:21:01.800 engaged you left numbers usa because you said hey now it's not analysis anymore the numbers are
00:21:07.060 overwhelming i need to be someplace where i can actually lead the charge to take action action action
00:21:13.160 so where do people go rosemary what's the first thing they should do to support you
00:21:17.320 they should go to iapaction.com iapaction.com you'll see our congressional immigration ranking system
00:21:27.880 that puts pressure on congress lets you know exactly what your members of congress are doing on the
00:21:33.200 immigration issue or more likely not doing uh we rank all 535 of them we also have resources fact
00:21:40.700 sheets on all the various visas that are available for people to come in and take american jobs
00:21:46.040 the entire legal immigration system we have mapped out on a fact sheet so there are a lot of resources
00:21:51.440 there and we'll help you uh you know figure out what your members of congress are doing and what needs
00:21:56.980 to be done you can also follow us that iaproject on twitter or x um and all of our social media is linked
00:22:05.140 on our website but i a practice iapaction.com is where to go and we need everybody's support
00:22:12.880 this is a big issue and as steve said the donors are on the other side
00:22:16.880 uh there was gonna be some legislation you were talking about banning we know you're all over the
00:22:23.520 h1b visas but is there additional legislation we should be looking for that's going to come up when
00:22:28.900 everybody returns in uh in january yeah so first of all let's just give a shout out to chip roy's
00:22:36.120 immigration moratorium bill the pause act that is uh the the first moratorium bill that's been
00:22:42.480 introduced in a while and it is comprehensive it's everything except tourists so that would
00:22:48.860 end the h1b and you know all the other visas and legal immigration so that is one thing that we should
00:22:55.880 be focusing heavily on uh chip roy's pause act there will be more legislation specifically dealing
00:23:03.400 with h1b's coming out in the new year hopefully very soon in the new year um so we'll be happy to
00:23:10.020 come back and talk about that when it is introduced but yeah things are happening members of congress are
00:23:15.980 starting to get this but we're not at a critical mass in congress by any means we need people to put
00:23:22.440 pressure on their members of congress to make them understand we've had enough
00:23:26.120 too much for too long one more time where they go rosemary i want people over the holidays to hunker
00:23:34.860 down on this and get up to speed because we're going to hit this deck plates running in 2021 early like
00:23:40.940 i don't know the day after new year's how about that where do folks go iapaction.com iapaction.com we
00:23:49.980 really do need your support this is a huge issue and we are trying to build support in congress to
00:23:56.580 get some of this really impactful legislation across the line yeah social media what's your twitter feed
00:24:03.900 iaproject at iaproject
00:24:08.100 thank you ma'am rosemary you're a patriot and a hero one of the great warriors of our time
00:24:15.060 we're going to we're going to get a moratorium it's going to happen we just got to put our
00:24:19.520 shoulder to the wheel here joe allen we've put our shoulder to the wheel on this artificial
00:24:24.520 intelligence and man oh man are the tech bros spinning this they're now got they got polling
00:24:29.680 that's awful for them and they're sitting there going well we're really the ones looking for the
00:24:33.080 federal regulations to make sure that the parents i think that is a bald-faced lie the tech bros
00:24:38.860 embarrassed president trump twice by misleading him on this ai amnesty which they try to slip into
00:24:45.660 the big beautiful bill and then they took the exact thing and try to slip it into
00:24:49.400 the uh national defense authorization act must pass legislation 0 for 2 and not just 0 for 2 i mean
00:24:56.060 one 99 to 1 voted against the other ones they pulled even before a vote they said this thing's
00:25:00.400 lost momentum then they had to go to president trump for these eos and i'll just leave that for
00:25:04.600 another day but what you're seeing right now talk to me about what we're doing and working with
00:25:09.980 people like blackburn and others are actually getting before you need some federal regulation
00:25:14.520 here i agree there'd be you don't want to have the states have 50 different uh types of it but the
00:25:19.640 reason ronda santa these guys were doing it is because the tech bros are trying to have no regulation
00:25:25.040 whatsoever and ronda santa these governors are actually going to sit there and go hey these kids 1.00
00:25:29.040 are citizens of my state i'm not gonna let these tech bros just do what they want with them now it's
00:25:33.400 much deeper than just the children but get me up to speed on the first cut of what we're seeing
00:25:37.520 this legislation sir well steve sitting in back of this legislation is overwhelming polling that
00:25:45.140 americans want some kind of regulation uh that the fabrizio ward poll that was just released
00:25:52.880 and funded by building america's future it shows that both harris voters and trump voters
00:25:59.880 would prefer to see one national standard over state preemption now the way the questions are
00:26:05.900 framed perhaps led them in that direction but one way or the other what it shows is this is something
00:26:11.980 i mean you know building america's future is funded by elon musk right kingpin tech bro and they're
00:26:18.220 admitting that americans overwhelmingly do want to see some kind of government intervention whether
00:26:26.100 it's on a national or state level or both they don't want to see tech companies basically regulating
00:26:32.040 themselves and just downstream of that we figure out how government responds right now you know we
00:26:39.780 announced a few days ago that marcia blackburn is she has already put forward a draft framework
00:26:47.500 for her trump america ai act this is basically a combination of most of the the laws that i think
00:26:57.140 are quite reasonable at the state level and also those laws that have been introduced at the national
00:27:01.980 level such as josh hawley's guard act or hawley's risk assessment act what we see now is the beginning
00:27:11.140 of a long battle over how artificial intelligence is going to be guided by government regulation by laws
00:27:19.580 by standards set by ostp all of these things are in play what we know for sure is whatever it is
00:27:28.160 that people like mark andresen or elon musk people like sam altman are going to go for at this point
00:27:36.600 they're going to have to work around the government so i think that even if marcia blackburn's trump 0.99
00:27:42.980 america ai act does represent the first step in a long process of actually having some kind of
00:27:50.000 legislation with teeth we're going to see all of these different tech bro interests trying to get in
00:27:56.080 there to either take the teeth out or to find ways to use that regulation to their advantage building a 0.98
00:28:02.700 remote so on and so forth but you know everything from sb53 in california which basically holds tech
00:28:10.300 companies liable hang on i tell you what joe joe joe joe joe joe hang on for one second we're gonna i
00:28:16.780 want to get into details on this short break joe allen all things transhumanism our editor here in the
00:28:23.300 war room back in a moment here's your host stephen k man okay on christmas eve we're going to be live
00:28:39.320 from israel and from rome we're going to be at bethlehem got a team there uh to see uh talk to
00:28:45.460 pilgrims and tourists the few that are there but also give you real insights into the uh the um birth
00:28:52.260 of christ so we're really looking forward to that from bethlehem and we're going to ben harnwell is
00:28:56.840 going to be live uh from rome from uh right outside in saint peter square from outside the vatican
00:29:01.500 so really looking forward to a very special show tomorrow we've been kind of working on um joe allen
00:29:07.580 uh is a duty of care i want to give a concept for people to get start working on a nomenclature
00:29:12.800 and then talk to me about where they can go to find out more about your work right now on blackburn and
00:29:17.940 other bills are out there hers looks like the most definitive but there's a ton of work going on in the
00:29:22.240 holidays i want people to know where to go yes steve if the posse takes anything away from
00:29:29.400 today's show duty of care this is a legal concept that if a company is putting a product out then
00:29:38.920 they have to run risk assessments to see if there are any predictable harms that their product that
00:29:46.880 their product could cause so for instance if you have a chat bot like chat gpt and you know that it
00:29:55.100 might seduce children sexually or seduce children into committing suicide then you are then liable for
00:30:03.380 eliminating that risk before deploying the product well we know right now that chat gpt does in fact do
00:30:10.820 this they know it that the product does this and so in the absence of any legal framework or any kind
00:30:18.520 of law or regulation that would hold them accountable they get away with it so marcia blackburn's trump
00:30:25.820 america ai act in the very beginning of it third section they say that duty of care will be first
00:30:32.860 and foremost any company who is producing any kind of algorithmic system that they know could get kids
00:30:39.640 addicted could lead to ai psychosis could lead to suicide they will be liable for the harms done
00:30:47.500 and they will be responsible for eliminating the harms before deployment i think this is one of many
00:30:53.900 positive steps that government could actually provide in order to throw sand in the gears of the machine
00:30:59.960 we we don't need maybe 53 or some of those but we need definitely even more of a regulatory apparatus
00:31:07.620 than that and here's the thing the tech bros are scared to death because he hired fabrizio who the
00:31:13.180 numbers blew him out of the water and now they're trying to position oh well we're really the guys
00:31:16.700 looking for the one federal standard that is a bald-faced lie a bald-faced lie twice you try to slide
00:31:23.560 in here to have nothing but the anarchy and chaos that you're going to cause for your own greed and
00:31:29.180 avarice and um and grab for ultimate power so we've we thwarted that and we're going to thwart the rest
00:31:36.340 of it i don't care how many hired guns like fabrizio you hire we not his the the both at amfest and here
00:31:44.360 we know that overwhelmingly people want to make sure we get our arms around this and particularly on the
00:31:49.000 on the ai jobs apocalypse joe allen dark aeon where they go over the christmas holidays you'll be back
00:31:56.540 with us on on monday and tuesday next week but over christmas where do folks go to get all your
00:32:01.480 content if they have a slow moment and they want to catch up on some deep reading of a big topic sir
00:32:06.980 well i would send them first to joe bot.xyz i've got an analysis a review of marcia blackburn's trump
00:32:16.000 america ai act i tried to break it down put it in layman's terms and bring out the most important
00:32:22.060 elements of it and also some of the problems that i foresee also my social media at joe b-o-t-x-y-z
00:32:29.660 and dark aeon unfortunately the signed copies are on hold while i'm traveling you can find it anywhere
00:32:36.460 books are sold i recommend bookshop.org they may be a little bit lefty but they are definitely human
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00:32:46.300 thank you sir ej and tony you're joining us i know it's a quick hit but you you were up this
00:32:54.600 morning beautifully because they're trying to say oh it was government spending it's all this this
00:32:59.400 this 4.3 percent doesn't show that trump's on the right track everything but you rebut that what's
00:33:05.140 the rebuttal sir this is real growth oh steve a hundred percent look at for example federal government
00:33:12.120 purchases in this report that's not going up this year it's going down at an annualized rate of over
00:33:17.860 two percent reduction that's fabulous news compare that to the four years under biden that category of
00:33:23.640 gdp was growing at over two percent so the idea that somehow this is all government no that's what we
00:33:29.420 had under biden this is real private sector growth consumer spending is absolutely booming right now and
00:33:36.040 if we look at a lot of the details of this report steve it points to huge increases in productivity
00:33:41.420 my guess is that has to do with people starting uh to use ai in their jobs and becoming more productive
00:33:47.520 getting getting more work done but whatever the case it's definitely a solid number all around and i know
00:33:54.000 some folks are have tried to make hay over the fact that the investment number was essentially flat it was
00:33:59.360 basically zero for the quarter but i think there's two reasons for that number one businesses have been
00:34:04.560 drawing down inventory because they overstocked at the beginning of the year out of panic and now they're having to
00:34:10.280 draw down those inventories but you know number two you're waiting on next year where i think you're
00:34:16.280 going to see a big investment boom because of the tax bill and so people are waiting on essentially not
00:34:23.140 just some but all of the provisions to finally kick in and that's when i think you're really going to see
00:34:28.200 investment take off which by the way is exactly what happened during the first trump administration they got
00:34:33.060 that tax bill done the first go around and then you saw an investment boom which led to a hiring boom
00:34:39.080 and a real wages boom this so all the dials are really lining up here steve even when we look at
00:34:44.220 uh international trade we're importing less and we're exporting more production is up that's a good
00:34:50.200 sign are you concerned two things quickly because you're a labor economist number one i want to ask you
00:34:56.620 about the overall numbers and are they right because they're saying hey since he doesn't have a
00:35:00.300 bureau labor statistics these numbers all half cocked the uh the ai and the productivity is one of the
00:35:06.180 reasons maybe wages are not rising as much as we want is that you're starting to see the beginning
00:35:11.200 of ai quote unquote as a productivity tool but taking out human labor are you concerned about that
00:35:16.360 not at the moment steve you're certainly going to have some jobs that are eliminated by ai but you also
00:35:22.400 have a lot of jobs that ai is being used to allow people to be much more productive and in those cases
00:35:28.480 you're actually seeing faster than normal wage growth and sure enough what we've seen so far this year
00:35:33.340 has been average earnings growth outpacing inflation and that's why people's paychecks are not only
00:35:38.480 getting bigger but on average you can actually buy more with those paychecks and so it's yes it's
00:35:43.640 absolutely true some jobs will get eliminated by ai that's true with every single technology but at the
00:35:49.560 same time it's creating other jobs and it's making other workers more productive which again is a good sign
00:35:55.280 overall you were too mega for the republican establishment to have his head of bureau labor
00:36:01.740 statistics although you told us for years what the problem was you're the guy identified it years ago
00:36:05.960 it's a problem now they're all complaining hey you can't trust any trump numbers because there's
00:36:10.340 there's no real guys there can you give us a minute on refuting that because they're saying oh you can't
00:36:15.180 believe any of these numbers because it's coming from trump your thoughts sir well steve the people
00:36:21.720 complaining about that had no problem endorsing the numbers which by the way the methodologies are
00:36:26.800 all the same nothing's changed right no one's actually gone in and cleaned house uh so if you
00:36:32.340 were okay with the numbers under biden and we're going to use the exact same methodologies under trump
00:36:36.860 why are you all of a sudden not okay with them that makes absolutely no sense the the big complaint
00:36:42.320 that so many economists had under biden was not even necessarily the methodology but the fact that
00:36:48.340 a lot of the numbers we were saying seeing like gdp like the jobs numbers they were getting
00:36:53.380 artificially increased if you will by government hiring and by government spending and so you
00:36:58.940 weren't actually looking at real growth in the productive private sector you were looking at
00:37:03.440 again just government growth the government getting bigger which does not mean more products and
00:37:08.260 services for people to buy it just means more paperwork it means more busy work essentially it means
00:37:15.440 more expenditures without actually increasing output at all today we're seeing exactly the opposite so
00:37:21.460 the the complaint that people have really has nothing to do with with any kind of empirical analysis
00:37:26.720 it seems to be a purely political attack
00:37:29.220 uh ej where do people go on your social media feed to get all this you're doing brain analysis and
00:37:36.380 putting up the ej charts we love where they go best place to find me is on x the handle there is at real
00:37:42.780 ej and tony sir thank you so much merry christmas ej merry christmas steve thank you for having me
00:37:51.740 rabbi willicki i name checked you from the main stage uh the other day about this effort you and
00:37:59.380 loom are starting to talk about this concept of israeli israel's sovereignty its independence i know
00:38:05.160 you get an issue explain the american people why we had these troops 2 000 troops up in syria
00:38:10.620 a couple of iron iowa national guard guys got killed uh president trump met the bodies on the
00:38:16.040 dignified transfer we didn't went to a massive bombing you know the next day i think 67 targets 100
00:38:21.480 projectiles but you're sitting there going whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa this is not actually
00:38:26.720 helping israel it's not helping you because the isis guys actually are allies avert of one who last
00:38:33.220 time i remember is going to take over the security force in gaza with cutter who's writing a
00:38:37.800 a 200 billion dollar check make it make sense to me rabbi well you know it's not good for israel but
00:38:46.640 that's the least of the issues here steve syria is a chaotic mess you know the the jolani regime
00:38:55.300 only really controls a central area of syria which is now coming under sharia law and you have
00:39:02.540 the minority groups the alawites in the northwest in the coastal region you have the kurds in the
00:39:08.200 northeast and then you have the druz in the southern part of the country who all are refusing 1.00
00:39:13.620 to lay down their arms because jolani's forces have been massacring them periodically and they know
00:39:20.100 that they're gonna that that uh you know there's no good life for them under the ashara regime the
00:39:25.140 christians don't have their own militia but they're the other minority groups are now working with them
00:39:29.880 the maronite christians to get them uh some kind of arms and these minority groups are now all in 1.00
00:39:36.380 communication with each other because the ashara regime is threatening them and the turks have moved 0.90
00:39:40.900 in this week two weeks ago the turkish foreign minister threatened the kurds that if they don't
00:39:46.520 absorb themselves under the ashara regime and lay down their weapons that they're gonna they're gonna 0.59
00:39:52.280 move in militarily against them and then this week over the last few days there's been clashes
00:39:56.960 all over the northern part of syria between regime forces and these minority militias so the whole
00:40:03.020 and and the united states is is uh is running cover for ashara when one of his guys a jihadist
00:40:12.440 opens fire on american on american troops saying no no no no it wasn't ashara's guys well it was a guy
00:40:18.620 he might have been a renegade he might have he might have broken ranks with the official policy and
00:40:23.100 but he was a member of ashara's security forces so the entire syria situation is very destabilized
00:40:30.140 and the united states needs to course correct because they're backing the turkish-backed al-qaeda
00:40:34.740 isis alumnus who is trying to impose his sunni jihadist rule and you have these you have these uh these
00:40:43.540 minorities including the maronite christians who are saying wait a second we want protection from 1.00
00:40:48.260 but it's but in my in miami in miami on the friday of of amfes in miami the kushner and uh
00:40:56.520 uh in whitkoff are negotiating with qatar uh egypt and turkey aren't isn't the united states starting
00:41:03.200 to look at turkey as the security partner for that region am i missing it if the united states is doing
00:41:10.420 that they they are going to have a rude awakening sooner or later it will come if you look at what's
00:41:17.440 i mean this is really the problem steve turkey is the muscle of the muslim brotherhood axis 0.86
00:41:25.220 qatar is the brains and the money turkey is the muscle and they are looking you know erdogan's 0.91
00:41:31.640 open about wanting to restart the caliphate he's open about the fact that he wants to destroy israel 0.98
00:41:37.220 he says it all the time and now he's he's trying to suppress the minorities in turkey he that's why he's 0.94
00:41:42.820 that's why he wants turkish troops on the ground in gaza so that he can have a foothold on israel's
00:41:48.980 southern flank essentially you know replacing what we had under iran before this war we had hezbollah
00:41:54.640 in the north hamas in the south that was backed by iran and now erdogan wants to set up shop in the
00:42:00.980 north he already has i mean ashara is a turkish proxy and he wants he wants in on gaza at the same
00:42:07.040 time as all this is going on these minority groups in syria have all been in contact with the israelis
00:42:12.920 this has not been reported in the news but steve i can tell you with full confidence they've been in
00:42:17.840 contact with the israelis for security cover and the israelis yeah netanyahu just had a summit
00:42:24.140 we have to go to we have to go to break i'm gonna bring you back in right up here's your host
00:42:32.080 rabbi you got a little cut off towards the end there uh you're saying that groups in the south
00:42:40.500 are reaching out now to israel well it's not just in the south the the three main minority militias
00:42:46.360 which is the the alawites in the northwest on the coastal on the mediterranean coast of syria in the
00:42:51.800 north there and the kurds and the in the in the northeast and the druids in the southern part of
00:42:59.940 syria have all been in contact with the israelis the kurds and the jews are openly being backed by 0.88
00:43:05.540 the israelis they're all um they all know what ashara's regime is they've all suffered massacres
00:43:11.760 at the hands of the ashara regime since last year when the assad regime fell and meanwhile you have
00:43:17.420 the turks who of course are the are the patron of ashara warning the kurds that they're about to 0.91
00:43:23.460 take military action against them if they don't absorb themselves into the ashara regime 0.99
00:43:27.780 and the maronite christians are are are now you know trying to organize a militia and they're part
00:43:34.000 of these minorities who are worried about these jihadists we've got a balance and i want to have
00:43:38.040 i want to have yeah yeah the americans are are diplomatically backing ashara and and wanting to
00:43:46.760 bring all of these minorities under the ashara regime it's it this is a real this is a real problem 1.00
00:43:52.560 it's going to blow up in trump's face okay you've been arguing that the one of the easiest paths here
00:43:58.880 i shouldn't say easy nothing's gonna be easy but that it's time for israel to say hey look we don't
00:44:03.520 need the five bayon we don't need the support we just got to do it ourselves because then
00:44:07.140 in your mind it's let's just take syria as one of many it wouldn't be the chaos that's there that you
00:44:13.280 guys could put in good order and discipline just give us a minute on that case and where can people
00:44:18.840 you've got a great you've got a great video up you've got a new piece up on charlie kirk in the
00:44:22.980 jerusalem post i want everybody to get access to your content but i am jammed for time just give me
00:44:26.740 the minute on what you're proposing well it's more than what i'm proposing there was a a news item came
00:44:33.700 out of the the prime minister's office the other day uh very well sourced that ron dermer recently
00:44:40.380 resigned as a strategic affairs minister is now heading up a working group within prime minister
00:44:45.700 netanyahu's circle to draw down the u.s aid to israel to zero at the end the current memorandum
00:44:51.640 of understanding which was signed at the end of the obama administration expires in september 2028
00:44:56.460 and the new plan that dermer is putting together would have no more u.s aid to israel and instead
00:45:03.900 just engage in some joint investments on on military technology and advanced weaponry but no more
00:45:10.400 aid to israel the israelis realize that both from our side that it compromises israel's strategic
00:45:16.880 decision making when the united states has so much leverage due to the aid we've seen that since the
00:45:21.280 beginning of this war and and right now where israel has its hands tied by the u.s in terms of its
00:45:26.280 operating in gaza and elsewhere israel needs to be more independent so from the israeli side prime
00:45:31.700 minister netanyahu has been saying this more quietly in the past but now getting louder about it that we
00:45:37.080 need to end usa to israel it also will politically make a lot of sense in the current climate
00:45:42.200 dermer's a genius but i just have to remind people dermer in the prime minister who was the first one
00:45:50.320 to put this forward i don't want to say worm steven k bannon we'll leave it there we're going to have
00:45:53.880 you back on because this is monumental i want everybody to get your content your videos you put up
00:45:58.500 people may not agree with all of it but you do lay out facts right and you're writing this thing on
00:46:03.240 charlie kirk in the post everybody ought to read so where do they go rabbi absolutely so go to uh
00:46:09.900 at rabbi pw on x visit the israel 365 youtube channel that's the video steve is talking about
00:46:15.760 three times a week we put up reports what analysis and news from israel in the middle east that you're
00:46:20.900 just not getting elsewhere and go to israel365action.com and that's where you can really follow everything
00:46:26.960 i'm doing and my writings at the jerusalem post where i'm a regular contributor i got an author page
00:46:31.440 there as well thank you rabbi appreciate you thank you sir thanks steve trevor you're going to be
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