Bannon's War Room - Episode 5044： National Evolution In Iran; Hegseth To Strip Mark Kelly Of Military Rank

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:07.000 Pray for our enemies.

00:00:09.000 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:17.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:19.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:22.000 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:23.000 It's going to happen.

00:00:24.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:27.000 Mega Media.

00:00:29.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Banff.

00:00:54.000 Okay, welcome back.

00:00:55.000 Monday, 5 January, Year of our Lord, 2026.

00:00:59.000 One of the engine room is saying, hey, there's so many plots going on.

00:01:03.000 It's getting confused.

00:01:04.000 There's a lot going on.

00:01:05.000 Geo strategically, geopolitically, geoeconomically, hemispheric defense.

00:01:10.000 President Trump's on a roll in the United States military.

00:01:13.000 Magnificent and what it accomplished over the weekend.

00:01:16.000 But also an earthquake out of Minnesota as we've been kind of driving that to focus here.

00:01:22.000 And you've got this complete scandal that's spreading state to state.

00:01:25.000 President Trump did come out last night on the way back from Mar-a-Lago.

00:01:30.000 He gave one of those open press avails on Air Force One.

00:01:35.000 And he said, I think he said he's cutting off money to Illinois, California, all these big blue Democratic states where they're fighting him on bringing in ICE agents and federalizing the National Guard where there's a constant fight.

00:01:48.000 He's going, hey, about these scandals, the Somalian scandal, I'm cutting off the money.

00:01:52.000 You're not getting any daycare. 0.99

00:01:53.000 You're not going to get any of this crap until you can show me that it's not being spent on just the invasion of this country with a bunch of illegal, whether they're asylum seekers or migrants, you call them anything they want, they're illegal. 0.99

00:02:04.000 And every one of these programs is a scam. 0.96

00:02:06.000 That's why here in the war room, we have called for a 10 year moratorium, 10 years on all, underline all, including student visas, all a moratorium on any type of immigration in this country. 0.96

00:02:21.000 It is so screwed up and such a scam of what we're funding, our own demise, our own destruction and the destruction of working class men, whether you're Hispanic, black or white, it's got to stop. 1.00

00:02:34.000 And the way to stop it is cut off the money and cut off the access and then do away with things immediately like the H-1B programs, no need for a moratorium there. 0.98

00:02:43.000 So a lot going on.

00:02:44.000 I want to bring in Eric Prince.

00:02:46.000 Eric, so Walls resigned.

00:02:48.000 Walls is not running again.

00:02:49.000 That's an earthquake.

00:02:50.000 They think they're going to throw a clobeture in there and cauterize the wound. 0.98

00:02:54.000 That's not going to happen.

00:02:55.000 This thing in Minnesota is spreading like a disease.

00:02:59.000 You've got Maduro at 12 noon.

00:03:03.000 Walls is going to, and this is the tale of two cities.

00:03:06.000 You're going to have Minneapolis and Walls basically saying, I'm essentially resigning.

00:03:10.000 I'm not going to run for a third term.

00:03:12.000 And they're going to turf him out here as quickly as possible as a governor, because he's going to be having to spend time on his criminal defense.

00:03:19.000 And then you've got lower Manhattan, Caracas, lower Manhattan, where you brought in Maduro.

00:03:24.000 And I keep saying, look, Maduro is a guy.

00:03:26.000 And I realized, you know, he hit Trump's tripwire.

00:03:28.000 As you know, negotiations have been going on a long time with this guy to figure out something.

00:03:33.000 And he's a bus driver.

00:03:35.000 It's not like this guy's not Chavez, right?

00:03:37.000 This guy's a bus driver who's a union guy.

00:03:39.000 I mean, the bad hombres, as you've identified around him, are also, you know, I think if you're going to clean this mess up, you're going to have to do something with them.

00:03:47.000 But talk to me about so last time we left you on Saturday morning, you said, hey, this is, you know, a great extraction.

00:03:56.000 But, you know, we can't do a nation building.

00:03:59.000 Right.

00:04:00.000 I don't want to I don't want to see us.

00:04:02.000 We can't have any troops on the ground, no boots on the ground.

00:04:04.000 President afterwards said, hey, I'm thinking about boots.

00:04:06.000 We got to do it.

00:04:07.000 We got to do it.

00:04:08.000 The VP is going to work with us.

00:04:09.000 She said no.

00:04:10.000 Then President Trump says, well, she's going to say yes.

00:04:12.000 She has said yes.

00:04:13.000 Now she's coming out and saying, hey, I understand what they're doing there.

00:04:16.000 They're they're putting pressure.

00:04:17.000 The president's already called for a quarantine of any of the oil going out.

00:04:21.000 And now you've got and now you've got some more of the bad hombres there.

00:04:26.000 They're not letting people go out in the streets.

00:04:28.000 They're restricting access, et cetera.

00:04:30.000 Talk to me about the current situation.

00:04:32.000 You had kind of warned.

00:04:33.000 Hey, taking this guy out.

00:04:34.000 Great.

00:04:35.000 You got to take some more out, but you don't want to get too involved in this thing because it could get messy, sir.

00:04:41.000 Well, and that's just to close the thought on the Minnesota debacle.

00:04:45.000 That was a money laundering operation.

00:04:48.000 Those illegal daycare centers provided $35 million of funding to the Democrat Party.

00:04:55.000 So, of course, they want to cover it up.

00:04:57.000 Of course, they want to flood the area with more illegals because they become their reliable illegal voters. 1.00

00:05:04.000 Now to Venezuela. 0.88

00:05:05.000 As I said, there is a criminal gang.

00:05:09.000 It's not just Maduro.

00:05:11.000 Celia Flores, his wife, who was also arrested and indicted.

00:05:15.000 She was Chavez's lawyer.

00:05:17.000 She's the one that picked her reliable husband to be the next ruler after Chavez was taken out by cancer. 0.83

00:05:24.000 So, yes, the cut has to go deeper, at least now when Trump negotiates with the other remaining parties, the Delcy, the Jorge Rodriguez, the D.S.

00:05:36.000 Hang on.

00:05:37.000 Hang on.

00:05:38.000 You bring up an interesting top.

00:05:39.000 You bring up an interesting.

00:05:40.000 Hang on.

00:05:41.000 You bring up an interesting topic cause Chavez was not exactly a road scholar.

00:05:45.000 Right.

00:05:46.000 But he was one of those kind of Castro type personalities.

00:05:48.000 She's a little bit the brains. 1.00

00:05:50.000 She was the attorney general thing.

00:05:51.000 She's the brains.

00:05:52.000 I remember she and Maduro didn't get married for 25 years or something.

00:05:57.000 She kind of selected him and made sure he was there cause he's the bus driver.

00:06:01.000 Right.

00:06:02.000 He's Ralph Cramden.

00:06:03.000 And she's calling the shots and it was not even selected, not even selected for breeding stock because she had two sons that were major, major criminal drug traffickers.

00:06:17.000 Already, they'd already been arrested once and they got they got released in a swap. 1.00

00:06:22.000 So, yes, he really was the useful idiot. 1.00

00:06:24.000 And now he's going to spend the rest of his life in prison. 1.00

00:06:27.000 Well, hold it.

00:06:28.000 And then you've got the vice president who's in charge.

00:06:31.000 Her family is there.

00:06:32.000 They're like a they're like a a a a Venezuelan mob family, even for Chavez came up in the socialist and the communist.

00:06:40.000 They were a mob family from the beginning.

00:06:42.000 I mean, she's tough as boot leather. 1.00

00:06:44.000 This girl comes.

00:06:45.000 This girl's like Tony Soprano's daughter.

00:06:48.000 Right.

00:06:49.000 That's correct.

00:06:50.000 So President Trump's I mean, he's not working with any beauties down there, as he would say.

00:06:55.000 Right.

00:06:56.000 No, that is correct.

00:06:58.000 So her brother, Jorge and Delcy, their father was a career murdering, kidnapping, extortionist gangster, as you described.

00:07:07.000 And so that perhaps runs in the family in the family bloodline.

00:07:12.000 So it but at least they should be of a mind that they saw what happened to Maduro and maybe they're not going to get arrested next time.

00:07:21.000 Maybe they're just getting a a J dam in their house. 0.98

00:07:25.000 So, again, President Trump has definitely done the benevolent thing by removing Maduro.

00:07:31.000 He'll have the luxury of standing trial.

00:07:34.000 He's not going to get he wasn't killed.

00:07:37.000 But a lot of Cubans certainly died trying to defend him under reported fact.

00:07:45.000 But hopefully those folks decide to do the right thing and run either on a selection or do an interim government, whether it's Maria Karina Machado or Enrique Capriles.

00:07:55.000 That's the guy that won the previous election that was also stolen by by Maduro.

00:08:01.000 That's how you get to a better interim transition government to bring some sanity back to Venezuela.

00:08:07.000 Well, and her father, you know, when you say extortionist, he made his money.

00:08:13.000 I think I think kidnapping American oil executives was part of his parts.

00:08:18.000 But these people are it's a very dangerous crew down there.

00:08:22.000 These are not good government types.

00:08:25.000 They also, though, Maduro and his henchmen had a geostrategic. 0.98

00:08:29.000 They're not dumb. 0.96

00:08:30.000 OK, they had a geostrategic plan to become a world power.

00:08:34.000 And that just wasn't on the biggest reserves of the second or third biggest reserves in the world, depending on how you calculate it.

00:08:40.000 But they looked at their next door neighbor, Guyana, and they realized with the military intrusion down there, when you got people like Biden and Obama and these people that are very passive, a military intrusion in the Guyana.

00:08:51.000 If you get Guyana's reserves or even part of them and put them with with the reserves of Venezuela, you have a superpower, do you not, sir?

00:09:00.000 Yes.

00:09:01.000 So the fastest economy growing in the world last year was Guyana because of the Starbrook formation, which is a massive offshore gas oil and gas discovery made by Exxon.

00:09:14.000 They went into production, and obviously, Guyana's economy really exploded.

00:09:19.000 Then, to distract from the corruption, incompetence, and socialism of the Maduro government, Maduro trotted out a 130-year-old border dispute, which had been settled 130 years ago, on an area called the Esequibo area, which is about 30% of the landmass of Guyana that suddenly Venezuela claimed again.

00:09:43.000 That's where all the oil was.

00:09:45.000 And they started raveling their servers and putting special forces across the border and all the rest.

00:09:52.000 Seizing that would have grown the Venezuelan economy by more than a third.

00:09:56.000 It would have truly made them an energy superpower.

00:09:59.000 Already, Venezuela has more proven reserves than any place on Earth.

00:10:03.000 Add to that the Starbrook formation and the other extensions from that, it would be truly extraordinary.

00:10:08.000 Venezuela has unbelievable natural resources.

00:10:11.000 Much of it is still unexplored.

00:10:13.000 There's a reason they called it El Dorado, the city of gold.

00:10:16.000 Under better, even semi-sane leadership, the country will be enormously more wealthy and peaceful and not be seeking to export millions of people to its neighbors.

00:10:29.000 I'm just in Europe now, and you see little spontaneous demonstrations of people wrapped in Venezuelan flags or Venezuelans living in various European cities celebrating what Trump did last Saturday.

00:10:42.000 You've kind of had this construct, and you came on the show a number of times and said, hey, put a bounty on him and you can extract him.

00:10:51.000 But you also said in broader geostrategic, one of the ways you can get leverage here is quarantining the ghost fleet or wherever the ships are coming out.

00:10:59.000 President Trump has basically said this.

00:11:00.000 They're not going to go in and actively, as of right now, step in and run the thing, although he is going to use his leverage to quote unquote run it.

00:11:08.000 Just explain to the audience what that means.

00:11:10.000 What does it mean to have a quarantine here and to use that quarantine as leverage to make sure that Del C and the rest of that mob does what President Trump wants without putting boots on the ground of American troops?

00:11:23.000 The three ways that Venezuelan government makes money right now is on tolling narcotics coming out of the rest of Latin America, particularly cocaine and some fentanyl and meth to gold, which is largely flown to Turkey and other Middle Eastern refineries.

00:11:40.000 And of course, crude oil.

00:11:41.000 And of course, crude oil.

00:11:42.000 So if the president enforces a control mechanism over how much of that gold gets, how much of the oil gets produced and shipped, that really affects their funding.

00:11:53.000 And he's effectively done that when he shut the airspace, it also shut down their ability to airship that gold.

00:12:00.000 So he's taken a lot of steps already to have a better control of the economy.

00:12:05.000 Remember, the Padrino, the minister of defense, the minister of interior, already have multi multi million dollar bounties on their heads for murder, narcotics trafficking, all sorts of bad charges.

00:12:21.000 So the president also has a means to escalate by saying, OK, instead of the bounty being 25 or 15 million dollars for information leading to the arrest of Diastato Cabello, he could just say, Diastato Cabello, dead or alive, 15 million dollars.

00:12:38.000 And now a lot of people around them will see them as a payday and a retirement path if if they bring him into whatever U.S. official will issue them the check.

00:12:51.000 It's a very it's an instant way for Trump to change the internal calculation that those people would be using.

00:12:58.000 A incentive program. You mentioned gold in President Trump.

00:13:05.000 And there's more reporting now. He did try to work with these people and said, hey, I want this to happen quickly.

00:13:11.000 I want it to happen with very little American involvement. Let's figure out a deal.

00:13:15.000 But all the deals, including for his henchmen, they had to leave the country.

00:13:18.000 He would not buy off my understanding on internal exile because that would be like them not leaving.

00:13:23.000 Part of that was an option to actually go to Turkey.

00:13:28.000 And a reason for that is the relationship that Maduro and his senior his colleagues, his cabal, have with the Turkish government, Erdogan around gold.

00:13:38.000 But they turned that down. Is that your understanding?

00:13:41.000 They turned down every option that President Trump gave them just to demand to stay in the country?

00:13:48.000 Yeah. And I just don't think they I don't think they figured Trump had the cojones to do something about it. 0.96

00:13:55.000 And he certainly showed that he has the cojones. 0.99

00:13:57.000 And, you know, it was a it was the F around and Maduro found out exactly what that what that feels like. 0.99

00:14:04.000 Eric, can you hang on one second? I just want to keep you for a couple of minutes on the other side because there's so much else going on.

00:14:11.000 President Trump pretty adamant to say, hey, look, this is about hemispheric defense.

00:14:16.000 And I want Greenland. I got to have Greenland because Greenland is going to cut off the Russian submarines and I can assure American security. 0.70

00:14:24.000 The Danes ain't happy. President Trump also talking about Colombia, Cuba.

00:14:30.000 And once again, talking about Tehran, we're going to get into all of it.

00:14:35.000 We got Eric Prince. We got Brian Kennedy.

00:14:37.000 Poso is going to join us in a moment, I think, with some updates on this Pete Hegseth about Mark Senator Mark Kelly.

00:14:45.000 Short commercial break. The tale of two cities today, Minneapolis and Caracas slash Manhattan here in the world.

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00:17:56.000 So, Eric, you've been one of the big advocates of hemispheric defense.

00:18:01.000 President Trump, given it to the Danes with the bark on, he says, look, we really need this thing.

00:18:09.000 It's key to our national security.

00:18:12.000 And I need you to pay attention to this.

00:18:14.000 And they're up in arms.

00:18:16.000 Explain to the audience, why is Greenland so important when we're talking about hemispheric defense?

00:18:22.000 He's trying to clean up Venezuela. 0.96

00:18:24.000 Because he's saying in his defense, people say you can't do national security.

00:18:27.000 He's saying, hey, look, in our backyard, I'm doing the, not the Monroe Doctrine.

00:18:30.000 I'm doing the Donroe Doctrine, right, with the Trump corollary.

00:18:34.000 We're not having any bad hombres in our hemisphere anymore.

00:18:37.000 I'm cleaning up this mess.

00:18:39.000 Why is Greenland so important to that, sir?

00:18:41.000 Well, it's much bigger than it even looks on maps when people look at it because of the Mercator projection.

00:18:48.000 It is unbelievably laden with significant mineral value.

00:18:53.000 And it is part of our northern flank.

00:18:58.000 And as the Arctic Sea becomes more navigable and there's more transits, it becomes super relevant for global shipping.

00:19:06.000 Right now, it's effectively a protectorate of Denmark.

00:19:09.000 The Danes pay the bill for all the defense, even though we pay largely the bill for all of Denmark's defense in Europe.

00:19:18.000 There's, I think, 29 or less than 50,000 people total that live in Greenland.

00:19:25.000 I think if you open it up to a vote for them, they would vote to become American citizens and to open it and make it a protectorate like Puerto Rico.

00:19:35.000 I think even what Trump offered them was that if we did that, Greenland would still get a 50% carry on any mineral value extracted.

00:19:44.000 So they get none of the costs they have to bear and 50% of the upside with American naval protection and all the American capital markets plowing capital into develop the various completely uninhabited parts of Greenland for the betterment of Greenland citizens.

00:20:03.000 So to me, it makes sense.

00:20:07.000 There will be some Danish nationalists or just some Danish socialists that will not like that idea.

00:20:12.000 But those are to be negotiated.

00:20:13.000 Remember, America grew mostly by acquisition, by paying money for land, whether it's Alaska, which was called Seward's Folly.

00:20:23.000 And again, that Secretary of State was – well, they call it Seward's Folly.

00:20:26.800 I think we ended up paying two or three cents per acre for all of Alaska, the Louisiana Purchase, purchased from Napoleon, weakened at the end of the Napoleonic – the French Revolution.

00:20:38.840 He was – yeah.

00:20:39.600 We bought land, and this is another opportunity to do something similar.

00:20:43.620 Seward – Seward's a genius.

00:20:46.720 He was Lincoln's right-hand man.

00:20:48.440 Lincoln – Seward didn't think much of him when he won the presidency, but became his biggest admirer.

00:20:52.520 Seward was a giant in American history.

00:20:55.800 I want to ask you quickly about Tehran, and then I got two breaking news items, one from Switzerland, one from Caracas, both of them about Venezuela.

00:21:03.720 And I got Poso on deck and Brian Kennedy.

00:21:07.580 Tehran, this thing's expanding because of the economic collapse of the bullies. 0.71

00:21:13.200 And we haven't cut them off from oil yet, which we've been advocating here for years.

00:21:18.000 But now the word is, you know, the IDF just can't – Mossad can't help themselves.

00:21:23.220 IDF can't help themselves.

00:21:24.800 There's all this discussion about the Israelis want to go in and stir up the pot. 0.99

00:21:28.520 Wouldn't that be the dumbest thing possible? 0.93

00:21:30.280 Now that you've got the Persian people up in arms against the mullahs, just let nature take its course. 0.97

00:21:35.680 They showed in 79.

00:21:36.880 They got a pretty good – you know, when they're fed up with something, and they're talking about putting the Shah's son, right? 0.99

00:21:42.680 And if you've ever studied the original revolution, it's not that the Shah and this crowd had a great run, okay? 0.63

00:21:49.040 Your thoughts on that, Eric Prince, the natural evolution of what's happening in Tehran versus foreign interdiction.

00:21:55.700 I am not in favor of the mullahs in Iran.

00:22:00.380 I'm on their hit list yet.

00:22:02.480 But the problem is, yes, it's great that the people are in the streets protesting.

00:22:08.540 The sad thing is that regime will kill its way to success, meaning they will kill as many protesters as they need as long as they can continue to sell their oil.

00:22:18.800 They have a customer.

00:22:19.700 China will buy their crude.

00:22:22.480 That will keep the regime alive.

00:22:24.100 There is a surprising amount of military technology.

00:22:26.260 Their Shahhead drone, a long-range, effectively, cruise missile drone, they've sold a lot of those, thousands and thousands of those to Russia as part of the Ukraine war.

00:22:36.660 I've long advocated that covert action, enabling the Iranian people to rise up and just clip enough of the regime to take away its inevitability, is the way to bring that house of cards down. 0.95

00:22:50.600 And I don't know that anyone who's done the work to build that preparation in the field with a few hundred, a few thousand Iranian dissidents to do that.

00:23:01.660 But until you can chop away the IRGC, the Quds Force, the MOIS forces, it's going to be bad. 0.79

00:23:09.820 I deserve this.

00:23:11.040 Why did I ask the world's top mercenary that question?

00:23:13.560 But we'll do that on another day.

00:23:16.040 So you're for that.

00:23:17.260 Okay, I got it.

00:23:18.000 I got it. 0.65

00:23:18.420 You got to chop away a couple of the heads.

00:23:20.600 So I'm not, look, I'm not, I'm not in favor of US government having to send people.

00:23:26.020 But unless people, look, when American, when American patriots decided to be independent from the UK, it wasn't just American patriots that got it done.

00:23:34.620 I got it.

00:23:35.280 Right?

00:23:35.640 You had France helped.

00:23:38.540 France helped.

00:23:39.160 Would you not advocate those?

00:23:40.820 Should we not try, should we not try one of the options is let's cut off the oil to the Chinese Communist Party? 0.83

00:23:46.500 I think it's part of the play in Venezuela.

00:23:48.360 They're not getting any more old.

00:23:49.620 The president says, we'll give them access.

00:23:51.080 I think that's getting cut off.

00:23:52.720 Kennedy's going to talk about that in a second.

00:23:54.180 The, isn't, isn't the play here, at least the next part of the play is let's just, let's see how the Moodles do with no incoming cash.

00:24:01.220 Right.

00:24:01.540 We can do that easy and see what the people think.

00:24:03.360 Hey, well, I'll get back to you on the, I, I want to get these two news items.

00:24:08.500 The two news items are Reuters is reporting, uh, Eric breaking from Caracas, Venezuelan authorities have ordered police to find and arrest anyone involved in supporting the U S attack.

00:24:21.580 Do you think they're just doing that, uh, for, uh, for PR or do you think they're going against president Trump's wishes and desires and actually going after people that assisted the military in the extraction process?

00:24:33.400 I have no doubt that, that the gangster class that still remains in Venezuela will definitely test the wire and see if it's electrified or not. 0.98

00:24:45.480 Uh, so, you know, having done one on Saturday, uh, there might need to be two or three more done remotely for people to get the full memo, uh, of, of what is expected from them by the United States.

00:24:59.160 Wow.

00:25:01.460 Okay.

00:25:01.960 Last thing was Switzerland's just announced the Swiss governments announced they have frozen all assets related to anybody associated with Maduro or his government.

00:25:11.900 How big a deal is that, sir?

00:25:15.020 Uh, that's, I don't know that Switzerland was harboring many of those resources.

00:25:19.740 I think a lot of that money was in Russia and in Turkey and in the Gulf, but, uh, great.

00:25:27.140 If Switzerland wants to get ahead of that, uh, there's an enormous asset recovery effort to be done, uh, in searching out because it was, look, it should have been the most per capita, the wealthiest country in, in, uh, the Western hemisphere, but it's been looted systematically for the last 30 years.

00:25:45.620 So there's a lot of wealth to be tracked and recovered.

00:25:50.840 Eric Prince, uh, where can people get you, sir?

00:25:53.480 Um, I am on, uh, X at real Eric D Prince, and, uh, they should also check out, uh, an unplugged phone because if they're serious about communication security, if they're serious about communication security, um, you can buy it at unplugged.com slash war room.

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00:26:28.980 They've, uh, they've, uh, they've just sent a letter of censure to Mark Kelly, uh, and, and, and, uh, Pete Hegseth is designated the secretary of the Navy to look into every alternative of how to basically effectuate that, that censure.

00:26:44.740 I assume, including calling back to active duty.

00:26:47.580 Do you believe that Kelly should be called back?

00:26:50.320 He's a captain, uh, and they probably, he's going to get busted down, but do you believe he should be called back and, uh, and tried, uh, in a courts martial, sir?

00:26:58.300 It is very dangerous for the over-politicization of our officer corps in, in the civil war.

00:27:06.320 It was super political. 0.96

00:27:07.720 It was ridiculous. 0.88

00:27:08.580 I think it's one of the things that contributed to a civil war.

00:27:11.480 And so letting officers, letting military officers be, um, uh, military professionals.

00:27:18.800 Fantastic.

00:27:19.460 If they want to take their uniform off and retire, uh, do that, but don't elicit, uh, subversion like he and the other clutch. 0.99

00:27:28.300 Of, uh, of Democrats were trying to do by, by, by what they did claiming it was don't follow the legal orders yet.

00:27:36.360 They couldn't identify one specific order that was illegal.

00:27:41.480 Eric Prince.

00:27:42.400 Thank you for taking time away from your busy schedule overseas to join us.

00:27:45.420 I appreciate you, sir.

00:27:46.220 And I will, I promise I'll have you back on and we'll discuss, uh, Tehran in the mullahs.

00:27:52.380 I wish them, I wish them, I wish the, I wish the Iranian people peace and freedom by any means.

00:27:59.340 Peace and freedom.

00:28:00.080 Thank you, sir.

00:28:01.340 Appreciate you, sir.

00:28:03.880 Brian Kennedy, Jack Posobiec, Oscar Blue Ramirez.

00:28:07.980 The tale of two cities today.

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00:28:10.960 Waltz is throwing in the towel because he's got to spend time on his criminal defense.

00:28:15.560 Just like Maduro has got to do in Southern Manhattan in federal court.

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00:31:50.260 So, Posobiec, you've had now, in cooperation with President Trump, their voters are reporting the regime is saying they want to arrest everybody to help the Americans.

00:31:58.480 The Swiss have just frozen all their assets.

00:32:01.680 This thing is going to be kind of a Donnybrook.

00:32:03.660 I mean, these are bad hombres, and they're just not going to roll over.

00:32:06.600 The President of the United States is saying, hey, they're going to pay attention to what I tell them, or bad things are going to happen.

00:32:11.680 Your thoughts, sir?

00:32:12.460 Well, Steve, this is exactly what you and I were talking about over the Christmas New Year's break.

00:32:19.760 Those 15,000 UF sailors, the flotilla that is off the coast of Venezuela right now, the pressure that's being put on the regime, obviously now, of course, with the stunning events of the last weekend now coming into focus.

00:32:33.260 And, look, my own personal feelings are, of course, I fully support the policy of blackbagging communists and taking them to Guantanamo Bay, and, in fact, I have a list if anyone would like to check it out. 0.92

00:32:46.660 But when it comes down to it, it always comes, and if you go back and look at the Human Events series that we ran last week, regime change, tales of regime change.

00:32:56.460 We talk about Iraq, we talk about Afghanistan, we talk about Ukraine, 2014, we talk about Syria.

00:33:03.420 The question always comes, what comes next?

00:33:07.100 Now, Venezuela's a different situation.

00:33:09.220 Secretary of State Rubio pointed that out.

00:33:11.000 This is a very different country than someplace over in the Middle East.

00:33:14.740 It's a very different set of characters.

00:33:17.200 It's a very separate cast.

00:33:18.500 And, Steve, what did I say here on the show on Saturday?

00:33:21.600 I said, is this a full-on regime change, or are they just taking out one guy?

00:33:27.900 And it appears to be that that's what the president and Marco Rubio said afterwards, because the president said, we are not installing Machado.

00:33:34.840 He was very clear about that.

00:33:36.260 Cold water all over it.

00:33:37.920 And then Rubio coming out and saying that he was having discussions with the vice president of Venezuela, who had been sort of this henchwoman for Maduro.

00:33:45.840 But, of course, she's off there, kind of looks like she's going into business for herself, as it is.

00:33:51.460 So, again, we will see what comes next.

00:33:56.500 Okay.

00:33:57.220 I had Eric on here about this whole situation in Tehran, the spontaneous self-organizing demonstration that the mullahs, and we're still letting the Chinese Communist Party get oil, monetize it.

00:34:08.640 Now there's reports out of Paris that the Israelis – Israel is going to actually end discussions now with Syria about actually reaching some sort of rapprochement.

00:34:19.680 You just informed me that it's Witkoff and Kushner that are putting this together, and they just announced, I guess, Zelensky's going to go over there.

00:34:26.380 Because Orban said this morning, no Budapest meeting because there's nothing really to talk about now.

00:34:30.800 Putin's not going to come.

00:34:31.800 Trump's not going to come.

00:34:32.980 I thought this might happen right after Davos.

00:34:35.080 And my understanding is the president's going to Davos, so a lot of these things can come together.

00:34:39.260 What do you know about this Paris situation, sir?

00:34:41.780 Yes, Steve.

00:34:42.460 So Davos is still a couple of weeks away, but that is obviously going to be a big summit that's coming up.

00:34:47.960 I'm sure the president will be there as well as key members of his cabinet.

00:34:51.560 What we're hearing – that's right.

00:34:52.980 So tomorrow in Paris, or really all this week, is going to be meetings between the Syrians, the Israelis, brokered by the United States.

00:35:00.580 Witkoff, Kushner will be there.

00:35:01.720 Then you're also going to see on the sidelines of that a secondary meeting that takes place, Kushner-Witkoff.

00:35:08.820 And you remember when President Trump went and sat down with Putin in Anchorage, happened to be a fly on the wall on that trip.

00:35:17.100 The very next day, what did he do?

00:35:19.100 He came back to the White House, and they had that meeting with the Coalition of the Willing.

00:35:23.320 And the Coalition of the Willing, the European leaders all came in.

00:35:26.620 Zelensky flew in as well.

00:35:27.880 The very next day, they all sat down at the White House.

00:35:30.380 Who's going to be meeting now in Paris?

00:35:32.600 That same coalition.

00:35:33.740 Because the big deal here, the deal potentially deal breaker for everyone, what are these security guarantees?

00:35:40.940 You got people like Tusk was going into business for himself in Poland, the globalist prime minister there.

00:35:46.460 We're trying to – we'll see how much longer he lasts in that position, by the way.

00:35:50.220 He was up there going into business for himself saying that U.S. troops are going to be on the ground in Ukraine.

00:35:56.240 I'm not sure that the president of the United States has come down on that.

00:35:59.420 No, no, no, no.

00:35:59.440 Worse, worse.

00:36:00.660 Hold it.

00:36:01.000 Hold it.

00:36:01.480 Don't protect him just because there's a poll.

00:36:02.980 Don't give a – no. 0.89

00:36:04.200 He said worse.

00:36:04.940 He said American troops on the line of contact.

00:36:06.520 I would even – he said on the line of – he said on the line of contact, U.S. troops, not just in Ukraine, but really up cheek by jowl.

00:36:17.460 Right, so they would enforce this demilitarized – no, these demilitarized zone.

00:36:21.600 No, Donald Tusk, he's a Pomeranian.

00:36:23.140 Forget it.

00:36:23.440 We'll talk to the troop holes about that, but – here we go.

00:36:30.160 But, no, this is a real question.

00:36:32.020 We've got to see American troops, British troops, French troops.

00:36:34.600 What is the coalition of the willing?

00:36:37.240 And who do we see?

00:36:38.540 Christina Freeland just got appointed by Zelensky.

00:36:41.040 So she had been the Canadian – you know, the Canadian deputy to Trudeau.

00:36:45.720 She just got appointed by Zelensky.

00:36:47.360 She, of course, of Ukrainian extraction.

00:36:49.940 So she just got a big appointment by him.

00:36:51.480 And what are we also seeing?

00:36:53.720 Zelensky took – and people who have been following our Ukraine analysis for a while at Human Events Daily, remember, we've talked a lot about Budinov.

00:37:02.080 We said, watch this guy.

00:37:03.320 Budinov is the CIA's guy in Ukraine.

00:37:06.320 He's the one that was running those 17 CIA intelligence centers that were on the line of contact, the border with Russia.

00:37:12.840 Who just got appointed to head the presidential office of Zelensky?

00:37:18.080 Budinov himself.

00:37:18.900 So there's a lot of questions.

00:37:20.800 Potentially, could this be a successor in the making, the CIA's man in Ukraine, Budinov?

00:37:27.860 The deep states all over this.

00:37:29.900 Real quickly, Mark Kelly.

00:37:31.920 Pete Hegs is sending him a letter of censure.

00:37:34.680 Is this start the process to recall him to active duty and court-martial him and put him in Leavenworth, sir?

00:37:39.500 Well, Steve, when I was at the Pentagon, I had the opportunity to question this from the press secretary, Kingsley Wilson, over at the Department of War and specifically on Mark Kelly and this seditious video that came out.

00:37:53.980 At that point, it was under review by Secretary Phelan over at the Navy Department.

00:37:58.360 And now that the review has been done, it was submitted to the overall secretary of war.

00:38:03.720 He's come down and said, we're going to see, number one, it will be this administrative action.

00:38:09.760 And number two, we're going to see reduction in rank and the opening, the opening of a broader investigation and proceedings against him.

00:38:18.100 This is unprecedented.

00:38:19.540 We have not ever seen something like this happen to a sitting United States senator.

00:38:24.620 And potentially, yes, this could include, depending on the way they go with it, it could include the full return to active duty.

00:38:31.800 It could potentially include a courts-martial.

00:38:34.000 It could include all of it.

00:38:35.320 And I say bust him down to a butter bar, put him on bread and water rations.

00:38:42.240 Last thing, and I got Brian Kelly coming in right now.

00:38:44.800 In the Tale of Two Cities, which is our theme for today's show, Minneapolis and the earthquake there of Walls and Caracas, Lower Manhattan, right?

00:38:53.860 For the American people in the MAGA movement today, what is more important?

00:38:59.320 Well, today you got to focus on, you have to absolutely focus on Minneapolis and you have to figure out what's going on.

00:39:05.160 Why is it this one city, Steve, think about it, George Floyd, Minneapolis, all right?

00:39:09.960 The trans shooter at the Catholic school, Minneapolis, just two weeks before Charlie Kirk's murder, was up there in Minneapolis.

00:39:16.780 The massive Somali fraud, Minneapolis. 0.83

00:39:19.140 There's something, and the great Liz Collin over at Alpha News perhaps could answer this better than me.

00:39:23.980 There's something going on in Minneapolis that for some reason all of our national stories, these national narratives seem to converge there.

00:39:33.360 Maybe it's a convergence site.

00:39:34.860 Maybe it's a place where the Democrats and the left and the globalists are converging there for us.

00:39:38.700 Honestly, I don't even know the answer for it.

00:39:40.440 But what I do know is that Minneapolis 30 years ago did not have these problems.

00:39:45.980 They did not have the massive importation of Somalis there.

00:39:49.660 And the scams, this insanity was not being run.

00:39:53.220 Then they pluck up Tim Walz.

00:39:54.480 They try to push him out.

00:39:55.400 They push him out of his bubble in Minneapolis.

00:39:57.400 And suddenly when real media gets a sense of him and when the broader media gets a sense of him, they're not completely bought off.

00:40:03.780 Then we made short work of him.

00:40:06.260 And by the way, Steve, mark my words.

00:40:08.380 We'll do the exact same thing to Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania that happened to Tim Walz.

00:40:14.460 So Joshy, little Joshy, take a good look at Tim Walz right now.

00:40:18.620 That is your future the minute you try to step out of Pennsylvania.

00:40:24.700 Charlie Kirk shows up next in Poso after that at 2 o'clock.

00:40:28.060 Poso, where do people go for all your content, sir?

00:40:30.980 We're up Human Events Daily.

00:40:32.400 Go check out the great special.

00:40:34.060 Everybody's talking about it.

00:40:35.640 Tales of Regime Change.

00:40:37.600 People are saying it's the best podcast series they've seen on these regime change situations

00:40:42.220 that have gone on the last 30, 40, 50 years all around the world.

00:40:46.440 Why these things happened.

00:40:47.800 Why the history happened.

00:40:49.140 Incredible reviews.

00:40:50.000 I want to say thank you to War Room and the entire War Room engine room.

00:40:52.960 Grace and everybody for getting it up and streaming it across the War Room platforms.

00:40:57.400 And, of course, putting it out there.

00:40:59.420 If you haven't had a chance to listen yet.

00:41:00.900 Well, folks, you know, I can't say that I was privy to all the information regarding the Venezuelan actions.

00:41:07.540 But let's just say it's kind of there are no conspiracies, but there are no coincidences when Human Events Daily is running a regime change special right when Maduro gets arrested.

00:41:18.220 Hold on.

00:41:19.240 That ends on the very night that you ended and then they went live.

00:41:24.020 They went.

00:41:24.360 Yeah, I was telling the team.

00:41:26.260 I said, guys, I think volume five is taking place right now.

00:41:32.080 We're cooking.

00:41:32.920 Twitter feed.

00:41:33.640 Where do people go on your Twitter?

00:41:35.760 It's at Jack Posobiec.

00:41:36.980 And, Steve, I just have one question for you before I run that, you know, I want to get out here.

00:41:42.520 Do you have any tips for Maduro on federal prison?

00:41:48.420 Whoa.

00:41:49.200 Listen, this is my question about DEA.

00:41:51.440 DEA.

00:41:52.080 At Danbury, they're not coking and joking with you.

00:41:55.620 They're not letting you change your uniform.

00:41:57.140 They're not changing you every 30 minutes.

00:41:58.880 I've got to find out about this DEA thing.

00:42:01.360 You know, Maduro didn't look like he was sweating the program.

00:42:04.460 Don't get it.

00:42:05.000 Jack Posobiec, thank you very much.

00:42:07.280 That's not the way the Bureau of Prisons rolls, I can tell you.

00:42:10.000 Thank you, brother.

00:42:11.140 Brian Kennedy.

00:42:13.780 Got you on here for some deep, smart thinking.

00:42:16.820 Today, in the tale of two cities, sir, what is more important for the American people?

00:42:21.480 What's happened in Minneapolis and our political earthquake or the geopolitical earthquake in Caracas and lower Manhattan, sir?

00:42:29.340 Well, since Jack already said Minneapolis, I'm going to go with Caracas.

00:42:34.300 Of course, Minneapolis is important because if we can't solve the Somali problem in Minneapolis, Minnesota, what are we doing here?

00:42:44.540 We have to get that right, and that's a very high priority.

00:42:47.520 But in Caracas, Venezuela, the reason the president went in there was because he thought it was something more than just drug dealing by Nicolas Maduro.

00:42:58.060 He thought it was something existential about the fact that you had Russia, China, and Iran, who are enemies of the United States, some more than others, of course, who are operating in Venezuela in defiance of what he termed the Monroe Doctrine.

00:43:14.920 So I think here, Steve, this is a major strategic shift on the part of the president to take seriously, for the first time in my lifetime, this idea.

00:43:26.800 Yeah, I want to give you time because you've been one of the architects of America First, and when people hear that, they go, man, it's Brian Kennedy going neocon on me.

00:43:38.740 So I want to give plenty of time to think about this on the other side and maybe even get you back up here tonight.

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00:46:36.880 So much going on.

00:46:38.060 Brian Kennedy, you're one of the intellectual architects of the America First concept and construct.

00:46:44.720 Now, you know, it's this regime change.

00:46:49.640 Is it nation building?

00:46:51.440 The hemispheric defense, which I think we need to articulate even more because it's such a brilliant construct, completely thought of by President Trump.

00:46:59.700 And now he's taking ownership of it, not just the Monroe Doctrine because of the Don Road Doctrine, which I love.

00:47:05.740 The Danes right now are in total freakout because President Trump is saying, look, I got to stop the Russian submarines.

00:47:11.040 I need Greenland.

00:47:12.020 Your thoughts, sir.

00:47:13.220 Is this have you gotten soft on us?

00:47:15.300 Have you gone from from America first or hardcore to kind of Marco Rubio's wingman, sir?

00:47:21.920 Well, I think I do think Marco Rubio is is doing overall a pretty good job here for the president.

00:47:31.540 I disagree with him on a few things.

00:47:33.400 I'm not sure why Maduro is in a New York prison, not in some hole in Gitmo.

00:47:38.260 So I'm not sure what what due process Nicolas Maduro deserves today, if in fact he's a narco terrorist, which I think he is. 1.00

00:47:47.560 The neocon view would be we need to democratize Venezuela.

00:47:51.840 We need to democratize Latin America and South America.

00:47:55.180 And we need to make sure the world is safe for democracy.

00:47:58.160 The America first view is we need to make sure that the world behaves itself so that the United States is secure and free and tranquil and prosperous.

00:48:11.400 That's, I think, what President Trump is doing here with his calling out the Monroe Doctrine.

00:48:17.920 During the period when the Monroe Doctrine was in 1823, it was written by mostly by John Quincy Adams.

00:48:23.660 He thought then, as did most Americans up until really the early 20th century, that the European powers should not get a foothold anywhere in the Americas, because if they did, they'd be able to exert influence that would not be in the interest of the United States.

00:48:40.700 What has happened over the last 50 years, especially, is you have China, Russia, and now Iran in a place like Venezuela and throughout Latin America and South America, exerting all sorts of influence there in ways that are detrimental to U.S. interests.

00:49:02.580 What matters from the Monroe Doctrine point of view is that whatever is nearest is dearest.

00:49:09.060 We're not talking here about Ukraine.

00:49:10.940 We're not talking about Africa.

00:49:12.780 We're talking about South America.

00:49:15.340 You look at Venezuela on a map, missiles that are put in Venezuela, like missiles that are put in Cuba, could reach the United States.

00:49:23.940 We don't know what the Russians, the Chinese, or the Iranians have put in Venezuela over the last decade.

00:49:31.600 These are bad actors.

00:49:33.380 This is a communist regime that means harm to the United States.

00:49:38.140 President Trump is saying we're not going to live anymore with nations that are enemies of ours so close to us exerting this kind of influence.

00:49:47.540 Getting rid of Maduro is one thing.

00:49:49.420 I agree with that.

00:49:50.420 But now you have to take the next step and make sure that you have a regime in Venezuela that removes from Venezuela the Chinese and all of their investments there, the Russians and the Iranians.

00:50:04.260 What are the Chinese, Russians and Iranians doing in Venezuela but staging an operating hub, as it were, to be able to cause harm to the United States, whether it's drug trafficking, which the Russians have always been involved in, or the building of terrorist bases to import into the United States, or weapon systems that can be used, advanced missiles, including potentially nuclear missiles aimed at the United States. 0.97

00:50:33.320 Again, this is not the Middle East.

00:50:35.780 This is not Eastern Europe.

00:50:38.040 This is our hemisphere within, as I say, 30 minutes reach of the United States.

00:50:44.820 That's something the president saw, and he thought that was intolerable.

00:50:48.700 Now we have to take the next step in this hemispheric defense and make sure the Chinese are out of South America, make sure that the limitations on any foreign power in those places is absolutely minimal. 0.98

00:51:03.900 And we do that not for the people of those countries, Steve.

00:51:08.680 We do that for the people of the United States, to make sure that we, the United States, are secure from any of their nefariousness.

00:51:17.080 And you see this all throughout South America.

00:51:19.960 What's your social media?

00:51:23.200 I won't have you back on, because we need to drill down on this and, like, take the 6 o'clock hour, drill down on this, so that we have, we can work this, work it through.

00:51:30.920 Because people need to understand this, because there's a lot of confusion.

00:51:33.620 Where do they go to get your content, Brian?

00:51:37.060 The website is presentdangerchina.org.

00:51:40.080 I'm Brian T. Kennedy 1, on Getter, I'm Brian T. Kennedy, and also on Truth Social.

00:51:47.360 Thank you very much, Steve.

00:51:50.160 Thank you.

00:51:50.700 I look forward to getting you back on here in the next couple of days.

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00:52:03.440 They're going to have a press conference at noon in St. Paul, Minneapolis, St. Paul.

00:52:07.840 Walls is going to throw in the towel.

00:52:09.260 We're going to have another one, or not a press conference.

00:52:11.160 We're going to have an arraignment of Maduro in federal court in lower Manhattan, sir.

00:52:17.760 Our thinking here is that, with all the geopolitics aside, Minneapolis is the story of the morning.

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Bannon's War Room - January 05, 2026

Episode 5044： National Evolution In Iran; Hegseth To Strip Mark Kelly Of Military Rank

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